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Speaker 1: Excuse Tyler social media where they go. We got a

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Speaker 1: This is why two things. We've got to fully stop

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Speaker 1: this chips, the ecosystem of training education are best engineering schools,

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Speaker 1: And people are not doing they're doing the opposite. In addition,

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Speaker 1: this is why when we talk about Joe and want

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Speaker 1: vitally important, and Blackburn's working on that and other people

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Speaker 1: are working on that. But when you say they're inherently

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Speaker 1: bet on well, we'll figure it out, we'll train them better,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to it later. There's no guarantee of that.

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Speaker 1: There's no even guarantee that there's a process for that.

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Speaker 1: This is about fundamental risk mitigation for our country, our culture.

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Speaker 1: Buckle up because it's going to be wild Joe Allen's

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Speaker 1: going to come back in a minute. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about something very serious about artificial intelligence. This is

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Speaker 1: also John Salomon joins us from having been a very

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Speaker 1: important meetings this morning.

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Speaker 4: John.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time away in John, as we're

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Speaker 1: going through everything in this war and re bouncing. We're negotiating.

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Speaker 1: We're not negotiating. They don't know who's negotiating. We're negotiating.

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Speaker 1: We're taking off the We're not gonna be bombing them

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Speaker 1: at five o'clock today, We're not gonna bomb them at

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Speaker 1: the start of the John Solomon Show. So John will

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Speaker 1: be doing interesting news instead of covering bombing runs no

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Speaker 1: but this thing. But once again, get this story up, Jennifer,

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Speaker 1: get Intel board to probe if spy agencies withheld China

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Speaker 1: election secrets over politics. Dude, this to me is the

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Speaker 1: single most important story we've got for us as a country,

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Speaker 1: because if we don't get this, this gets back to

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Speaker 1: a guy Tyler or'neil from Daily Signal talking about the

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Speaker 1: CIA and to Biden is trying to make traditional moms,

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Speaker 1: the tread mom movement a domestic terrorist extremists. But it

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Speaker 1: all goes back to here and this, as you can tell,

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Speaker 1: the entire apparat this has kind of come together and said, nah,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to talk about that. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the politics is about the future. We don't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the past. You continue your hammers. Tell us

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Speaker 1: the scale of this problem, sir, as you outline in this.

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Speaker 8: Article, Well, it is as rooted in a corruption of

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Speaker 8: the intelligence community as anything we've seen Russia collusion, that

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Speaker 8: Director Ratcliffe retracted it because it was so offensive and

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Speaker 8: so laughable. But what has happened is that the left

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Speaker 8: has infiltrated an intelligence community that traditionally has been centrist

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Speaker 8: then tried to impose that politics over an intelligence officers

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Speaker 8: obligation to put their country first. And so in Great Britain,

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Speaker 8: when they learned China was hacked, or when China had

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Speaker 8: hacked their voter registration database, the intelligence community there put

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Speaker 8: their country first, They made it public, they corrected it.

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Speaker 8: They were great recriminations there was a national crisis in

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Speaker 8: this country. Leftists in the intelligence community buried that notion.

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Speaker 8: We know that because the amudsmen for the Intelligence Commute

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Speaker 8: said he found the evidence, he found the receipts, he

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Speaker 8: found the goods that said that the Intelligence Committee hated

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump. They called them a vulgarian and they were

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Speaker 8: intent on not letting him, the Congress, or the American

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Speaker 8: registration data, specifically because they didn't want to help his

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Speaker 8: China policy. They disagreed with it. They had a leftist

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Speaker 8: view on China, and they allowed that political view, their ideology,

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Speaker 8: to overcome their obligation to country. That's why this is so.

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Speaker 8: You can apply it to lots of different things. But

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Speaker 8: that's what happened in Russia. Collusion, it's what happened in Ukraine, impeachment,

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Speaker 8: It's what now has happened on election integrity. And until

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Speaker 8: it is rooted out, until there's a deterrent, until this

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Speaker 8: administration notifies the states that are affected, which it hasn't yet,

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Speaker 8: it is not a corrected problem. And I think getting

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Speaker 8: a guy who helped unravel Russia. Inclusion is a big

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Speaker 8: step forward. That is big impact from the stuff that

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Speaker 8: we've been talking about in your show, Steve, someone is listen.

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Speaker 8: They're getting deeply engaged in it now and they're going

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Speaker 8: to do something about it. That's a good first step.

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Speaker 8: And I think, just like John Radcliffe retracted nineteen ideologically

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Speaker 8: silly intelligence reports, you could see the CIA and the

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Speaker 8: d and I begin doing some stuff in the next

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Speaker 8: couple weeks in response to the PAB, in response to

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Speaker 8: the Intelligence Advisory Board, to get right with this, to

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Speaker 8: get our country right. Otherwise twenty six election is just

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Speaker 8: as much a risk as twenty twenty was.

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Speaker 1: Why are we not informing the Save Act and the

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Speaker 1: Save America Act so that we stream the debates all

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Speaker 1: over the weekend? Chris President Trump blew up Thune last night, said, look,

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Speaker 1: it's got to stop being Kabooki theater. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: like the Mike Lee and there's no urgency. You can

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Speaker 1: tell this. There's a lot of them, like eleven year

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Speaker 1: old kids, kind of moping around that they're losing the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Why are we not infusing that debate and putting the

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Speaker 1: Democrats on notice about the Biden regime. With this information

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Speaker 1: shocking to the intelligence agencies. Thank you, just go. I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there going. You could make this the most exciting,

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Speaker 1: mesmerizing edge of the seat if you just infuse it

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Speaker 1: with what the facts are and not. There's still these

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Speaker 1: theoretical discussions about the republic and the constitution, which is important,

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Speaker 1: but after you've heard that a couple of times, it

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Speaker 1: kind of loses its impact. Sir, that's right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Listen, what Carolyn Lovit should do is have a

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Speaker 8: briefing in the and the White House Press. Walk the

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Speaker 8: press through the evidence. Once they see the evidence, it's

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Speaker 8: kind of hard to ignore. It's pretty clear evidence. The

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Speaker 8: d and I Telsea Gabbert should and John Ratcliffe should

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Speaker 8: call the senators one by one and say, here's what

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Speaker 8: we found in your state. Oh, by the way, throw

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Speaker 8: the Justice Department in because our meat Dylan is doing

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Speaker 8: some great work. Our meat Dylan is going through these

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Speaker 8: voter roles. So you could have a briefing senator by

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Speaker 8: senator saying, sir, in your state trying to access your

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Speaker 8: voter data registration in your state, thus far, we've found

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Speaker 8: X number of non citizens you've made it through your

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Speaker 8: state's very good system, which means we still need voter

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Speaker 8: iety to prevent this. That's the sort of hand to

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Speaker 8: hand combat that would win the Save Act, at least

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Speaker 8: a version of the Save Act. That's the sort of

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Speaker 8: command of the podium that's been lacking on this issue.

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Speaker 8: It is mystifying to me that something the President cares

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Speaker 8: so much about, he himself has truth out about it,

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Speaker 8: but the team around him have not driven the narrative

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Speaker 8: he says is important to him. His team is not

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Speaker 2: It's just that simple.

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Speaker 1: This is the whole fight today at the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: breech are trying to get the evidence back. This is

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Speaker 1: got to be addressed strategically. Like the ward is John Solomon.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud to announce I think the President of States

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Speaker 1: has said that John Solomon Show at six o'clock to

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Speaker 1: And we're going to be We're gonna be connecting with

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Speaker 1: John out and Cepex. We're gonna have a lot of

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 8: I think I have some scoots coming, buddy.

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Speaker 1: All right, That's that's what we're looking for, sir. That's

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Speaker 1: what we call fun. Thank you, sir, Appreciate you. I

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Speaker 1: don't care that you've got it. If you tie it

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Speaker 1: all together, it's so overwhelming. Remember when when people say

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Speaker 1: asking these guys, yo, where were you on the stealing

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty election? And where were you on

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Speaker 1: J six and where were you on the impeachment of Trump? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of those guys will when you go back

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Speaker 1: and look at the record, man, maybe they're not so MAGA.

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Speaker 1: A central part of Make America grays the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: election was stolen. And you know who will agree with that,

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Speaker 1: a guy named Donald John Trump. But you got to

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Speaker 1: pull this all together and talk about it, Joe Allen,

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Speaker 1: I got to pivot back to you, man, because this

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Speaker 1: is all important. I just want you to repeat. The

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Speaker 1: And they're saying, Oh, Joe Allen's gone woke, Bannon's gone woke. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that crap. That's all nonsense

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Speaker 1: because where the leaders and saying you got to shut

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Speaker 1: down the CCP from even being competitive and take that

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Speaker 1: off the plate. But the Frontier labs themselves now get

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Speaker 1: their hands all over the weapons lab. The Frontier Labs

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Speaker 1: working at the cutting edge of this technology and science

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Speaker 1: combined now for years are telling you one central problem.

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Speaker 1: The central problem is they don't have control of the

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Speaker 1: technology in what they're creating, this thing called hallucinations that

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Speaker 1: what you said is so important it has it shows

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Speaker 1: a will of its own for survival, Joe Allen. That

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Speaker 1: means it understands that the humans at some level that

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Speaker 1: the humans are trying to control it. They don't want control.

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Speaker 1: Somehow they've been able to create at least I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's consciousness or a will to power or

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Speaker 1: whatever it is there, but that is resistance and the

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Speaker 1: smartest guys in the business saying hey, we don't have

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Speaker 1: control of it, and this is what gets them back

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Speaker 1: of this anthropic I'm not taking the side of anthropic

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Speaker 7: Joe Allen, Steve, the will of its own that you're

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Speaker 7: describing is something that if you simply use these models,

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Speaker 7: One of the big things that we talked about a

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Speaker 7: It's a black box, meaning you can't really see inside

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Speaker 7: it to see exactly what's happening. Literally, no human being

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Speaker 7: When you ask GROK is this real, they simply don't

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Speaker 7: know the direct paths.

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Speaker 5: It's not like traditional computer programming.

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Speaker 7: And so when you have these different organizations like Palisade

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Speaker 7: Maybe it would blackmail people in order to keep existing,

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Speaker 7: maybe it would do sneaky things to subvert any attempt

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Speaker 7: so many different questions, But the big question that I

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Speaker 5: We don't know.

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Speaker 7: All we know are the people who are building them,

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Speaker 1: Joe, I think I can say, as proud as your

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Speaker 7: Well, if anybody's in the DC area this Friday in

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Speaker 7: That, Yes so The hill And Valley forum coming up.

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Speaker 1: Anyway we'll talk about that. Later we're going to be

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