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I'm confused of the Big Twelve media days 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: because you know, it's like a. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 4: Week long event nowadays. 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: And obviously Tom Obviously the big talking point, not just 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: for the Big Twelve but across college football is what 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: are we gonna do with nil? What are we gonna 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: do with the transfer portal? It's dominating the conversation, probably 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: even more so than the actual football itself or even 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: the college football playoff. Well, Colorado had football coach Dion 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: Sanders has a plan he thinks would fix this whole situation. 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: Take a listen. 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: All you have to do is look at the playoffs 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: and see what those teams spent, and you understand during 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: their white end playoffs, it's kind of hard to compete 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 5: with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars during 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 5: freshman class. We're not complaining. And because all these coaches 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 5: are being a coach at butts often given the right 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 5: opportunity with the right players and play here and there, 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 5: you'll be there. But it's what's going on right now 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 5: don't make sense, and we want to say stuff, but 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 5: we're trying to be professional. But you're going to see 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 5: the same teams during that at the end and with 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 5: somebody who sneaks up in there. But the teams that 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 5: pays the more, pays the most is going. 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: To be that in. 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, Hello, is this on? So you're calling for 35 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: a cap? 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Okay? 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Shame on Dion Sanders for being a hypocrite. Shame on you. 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Did you call for a cap when the coaches were 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 1: making twenty million dollars eighteen million? Where was the coach's cap? 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Is that fair? That Nick Sable was making a gazillion 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: dollar off the kids back? Where was that cap? 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: Dion? 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: How come you didn't call for this when your boys, 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: your kids were in college Shadoor? Why didn't Shador give 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: the money back and say, you know what, I'm just 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: playing for the hell of it. 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: My dad's a former NFL player. We got loot. 48 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't need money. I'm here to play football. Did 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: s your door take the money? 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: Must be then? Okay, this is ludicris. 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: The only people you want to punish are the players, 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: the actual product, Dion. Without the players, you can't coach, 53 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: you can't sell tickets. And I'm talking about the players 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: as a whole all people ever do and his evidence, 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Who were the reporters sitting there and allowing him to 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: give the evidence that look at the teams who spent 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: the most money? They all in the Have the chief 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: teams changed? 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: Has Ohio State all of a sudden become this team 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: that gets there every year? Are you kidding me? 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: They used to pay the kids under the table. Now 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: you gotta put the money on the table. It's the 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: same freaking teams. Give me the name, Deon, tell me 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: who paid a lot of money and got to the 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: college football playoffs? Who wouldn't have got there without the money. 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: He couldn't name you one because it's the same players. Hypocrisy, 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: take advantage of the students, of the kids of the players. 68 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: You know why, because they're not represented. There's no agent 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: or body to protect them. Always blame the kids, Dion, 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: How dare you You came up to bat once as 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: a Yankee. 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: You know what he did. 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: He made the dollar sign in the batter's box. Fish 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: with the catch on the white sox took exception to it. 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: You remember it was about the money, wasn't it. This 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: is a fair market system this country. You know how 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: much you're worth, Dion. You're worth what someone's willing to 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: pay you, period. And if they don't want to pay 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: the kids the money, don't pay them, Dion. Go out 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: and do a grassroots and say I'm not giving out 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: any nil money. I'm gonna recruit kids who want to 82 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: play college football for nothing. Let's see how good of 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: a coach you are with those kids. What poppy cock 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: and boulder dash and utter nonsense, Dion. Come on, man, 85 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe you would get on that soapbox and 86 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: deny kids a chance to earn money when these schools 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: are making millions of dollars off these kids back. This 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: whole nil was finally a chance to make some money 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: back after all these You want to go and look 90 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: at the kids. They ran out of college because they 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: got a free pizza or they got a tattoo in 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: exchange for a warm up. Come on, man, I'll never 93 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: sit down for this. I'll never accept it. Dion, how 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: could you? Terrible? 95 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: Terrible? Don't be nick Saban, don't be like the old 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: white guys. Don't do it. 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: Oh. 98 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: I like football the way it used to be. I'm sorry. 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: It was good for the coaches and they made all 100 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: the money and the schools made all the money. 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: And the kids made nothing. I will not go back 102 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: for that, ever, ever. Ever. 103 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing. So usually you and I watched 104 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 6: the Ie couple. We differ on a lot of things. 105 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 6: A lot of what you just said I agree with 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: and I had written down and prepared to talk about. 107 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: So I'll try to take a couple different lanes with you, because, 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: to paraphrase a little bit of what you were just saying, 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 6: I had already planned to say, toothpastes out the tube. 110 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 6: We ain't going back right. One thing we know about it. 111 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 6: When money gets rolling, money ain't going back in. 112 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: So the system is. System is where it is now, 113 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 4: and it gets you. 114 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 6: Why it's not going back is because the NC doublea 115 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 6: rob They blew their chance to do this twenty twenty five, 116 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 6: thirty thirty five years ago, when people were really starting 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 6: to make a fuss about this, say, hey man, this 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 6: doesn't seem right. You got examples, Hey man, fab five guys. 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 6: Why are y'all penalizing? Hey man, Ohio State kids getting tattoos. 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: What's the big deal. They got a couple sign a 121 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 6: couple of things. They got some tattoos. What's the big deal. 122 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 6: And I used to call that identity theft. To me, 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 6: the NCUBA four decades had been participating in identity theft. 124 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 6: They stole the identity of players. One of my favorite 125 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 6: games going up rob was Coach k Basketball. Was like 126 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 6: it was so fun and you knew exactly who that was. 127 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 6: Back then it would be like the UCLA team with 128 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 6: the old Bannon brothers and Tyas Edney. 129 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 4: Well, I know that's him. He's five foot eight, number 130 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: ten or whatever. That's Sias Edney. 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 6: But yet it's everything about them, but it's not him, 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 6: and they can make the money off the back of him. 133 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 6: So to me, the NCAA have been practicing identity theft 134 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 6: for so long and gotten away with it. Now we 135 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 6: have created the wild, wild West, and this is a 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 6: result of it. And you know what happens when you 137 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 6: give leeway, when you finally open up the floodgates, eventually 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 6: you have to find back, get open up the parameters 139 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 6: and scale things back a little bit. So right now, 140 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 6: Dion Nick Saban, what we're dealing with is the floodgates opening. 141 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 6: Why we try to figure this thing out because rob 142 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 6: they were selfish the NCAA for decades. 143 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: Now we're trying to figure this thing out. Can I 144 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: get I give you two numbers real quick? Chador's nil evaluation? 145 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: What six point five million, which is two million dollars 146 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: more than the NFL contract he has with the Browns. 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: If Dion came and took Shador's money or or then 148 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: I would listen to you. If you told your kid 149 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: you were not making any money, we're gonna give the 150 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: money back or whatever or not take it. And Dion 151 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: is making five five year, fifty four million dollars. Coach 152 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: new Bridge Coloradson no money. So is there a coaches cap? 153 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: Come on, man, what are you talking about? 154 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 6: And that's been an issue that we've we've all been 155 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: saying for years as coaches are making two five, six 156 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: ten million dollars. 157 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: Nick saban. Hold on, let me get this in front 158 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: of you. Rock this pretend this is. 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 6: Is a coke having coke deals with when press conference 160 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 6: is so he puts the coke right there because he 161 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 6: can get a coke deal, but the players can't. 162 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: Players. 163 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 6: You know, they were high school players, high school players 164 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 6: who will lose their college eligibility because they get all 165 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 6: the shoes, hundreds of pairs of shoes from Nike under 166 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 6: arm and god forbid, they sold a couple of pair 167 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 6: to help mom with the light bills. They literally lost 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 6: their college eligibility. So my point is we're way past this. 169 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 6: Kids are finally reaping the benefits of this. And that's 170 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 6: just where it is. The only other thing I said, 171 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 6: because you, like I said, you touched on so many 172 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 6: points of that one thing, I will say, the transfer 173 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 6: portal that has made it where I don't want. And 174 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: this is just me looking at the young men becoming men, 175 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 6: and I think you can even appreciate where I'm going 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 6: with this. I don't mind the money and it say hey, 177 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 6: get it money. This is the capitalist society we live in. 178 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 6: The only thing I will say I don't want to 179 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 6: happen is where some young men rob they miss out 180 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 6: on the chance to grow from adversity. 181 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 4: Meaning you go to the school. Man, I don't like that. 182 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: I'm not starting. 183 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 6: I'm going to the other school as opposed to sometimes, hey, 184 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 6: push through. You know this from our careers. Hey man, 185 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: sometimes you got to push through. Sometimes you got to 186 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 6: go through some things. Sometimes isn't easy. And I don't 187 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 6: want a lot of young men to lose, in young women, 188 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 6: to lose that opportunity to grow through adversity, to go 189 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 6: through some tough things just because that other school's offered 190 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: me twenty thousand dollars, they offer me forty thousand dollars. 191 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 6: Or I thought I was starting, but now I'm second 192 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 6: string cornerback. I don't want to wait, and I don't 193 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 6: want to work outwork this guy, you know what I mean. 194 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 6: That's my only other thing about that. I still want 195 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 6: kids to go through adversity, push through, and become better, 196 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 6: and I don't want them to always lean on Man, 197 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 6: this ain't working out. I want to go there, because kid, 198 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 6: you got something, going three four different schools in a 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 6: five year college career. 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: Because I don't like this. I don't like that money's 201 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: better over there. 202 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 6: That will be my only one pause to this, but 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 6: the fact that they finally are making some money, and 204 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 6: not to mention rup, there's only a handful of kids. 205 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 6: You still got the right guard somewhere who ain't really 206 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 6: making nothing. So let's not act like this is a 207 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 6: every single person getting money. And I had it written 208 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 6: down here too, and you hit it. You can almost 209 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 6: see I wrote, same teams been winning, Sorry, the same 210 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 6: Alabama been good at usc s. You know, Michigan fell 211 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 6: off a little bit. Pop back up in order to like, 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 6: you're getting the same twenty schools. And if you put 213 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 6: a cap on it, fine, it'll be the same twenty 214 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 6: schools because most schools robed couldn't afford the cap except 215 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 6: for the same twenty twenty by schools. 216 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 217 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: the nation. 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As 234 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: you guys now, I know you never missed Gaitlan Clark games. 235 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: Parts I'm I haven't seen one all year. 236 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: I will say it was odd that she played at 237 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: like ten am Pacific. 238 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: That was really weird. 239 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: That was super awkward. But it wasn't a great performance 240 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: by her first game back from a groin injury. Ten points, 241 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: four to twelve, shooting, five rebound, six's is, four turnovers 242 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: and a blowboy loss. But to your point, the big 243 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: story coming into today's game was that new book by 244 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Christine Brennan. She did a whole biography following Kaitlyn Clark, 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: her rise and her influence on the sporting world, not 246 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: just in basketball but in sports period, and one. 247 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 8: Of them had a riff. I'm surprised she wrote this book. 248 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 8: Did you have a riff with him? I'm not sure. 249 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 8: I'll have to look into that. But one of the 250 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 8: excerpts that's getting a little run today involves Kaitlyn Clark 251 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 8: being snubbed from the Olympic team last summer. You'll recall 252 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 8: it was a big much ado about, hey, how are 253 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 8: you going to leave out the most popular women's basketball 254 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 8: player in America and leave her off Team USA? 255 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: And according to Christine Brennan, while sourced in this book, 256 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: the reasoning was twofold number one. Of the twelve roster spots, 257 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: one of them was already reserved for Dana to Rozzie. 258 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: No matter what that, they wanted to give her a 259 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: chance to get the record breaking gold medal. So even 260 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: though there was twelve spots technically available, there was really 261 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: only eleven, but number two. Most importantly, you guys alluded 262 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: to it. The reason why, according to Christine Brennan, that 263 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Clark did not make the Team USA Olympic team 264 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 3: was nothing to do with her abilities, had everything to 265 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: do with what the Team USA decision makers deemed were 266 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: an unruly fan base. Specifically, they believed if they put 267 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 3: her on the roster and she did not play a 268 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: lot of minutes, which is kind of what happens on 269 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: the Olympic teams. You got so many good players not 270 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: a lot of minutes to go around that there would 271 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: have been backlash, There would have been negative feedback, negative comments, 272 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: and they just said, hey, we'd rather leave her off 273 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: altogether than deal with that. 274 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: And you know what, what I understand it, and we've 275 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: seen this. This is not a Caitlyn Clark thing. This 276 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: happened to Tim Tebow. He couldn't be a backup quarterback anywhere. 277 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: You remember he went to the Jets like because of 278 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: the fans, like, you don't want to deal with that. 279 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: What a backup quarterback is supposed to be seen, not heard, 280 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: And in her case, fans would not have accepted her 281 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: not playing. 282 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: Remember Jason Tatum, he don't even have smoke like that. 283 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: He didn't have a fan base like that, and people 284 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: were were worked up over him not getting any run. Right, Yeah, 285 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: he was the only American on a team like uh right, 286 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Like like who was it wasn't he like all Pro 287 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: the only guy was American and he wasn't even on playing. 288 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: So My point was. 289 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: That I understand once they realize she's not going to 290 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: be the star that they want her to be, and 291 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: she's probably not going to be playing, and then all 292 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: the attention from the Olympics would be about what why 293 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: aren't they playing Caitlyn Clark? Oh they hate her all day, 294 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, all that other stuff. 295 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: I'll give you another one. 296 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: That's why teams didn't want to draft Shador Sanders, because 297 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a backup. Right here we go, how 298 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: old chadors? It replaces the starter? Oh, Shador, how come 299 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: we not playing? They're just trying to They got a 300 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: conspiracy in the NFL. They're trying to put a thumb 301 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: on Deon Sanders. This is racist, this is that. This 302 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: is all. 303 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: You gotta deal with that. 304 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: And they're like, if we're not gonna draft them as 305 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: our starting quarterback, we don't want to deal with that. 306 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: We don't want to backup quarterback to have ten reporters 307 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: around their locker every day. No, it becomes a distraction. 308 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: So I do understand that, Like there's there's a parameters 309 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: for depending on where you're gonna fit in, and you 310 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: don't want the distraction. So I do understand that it 311 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: makes sense to me, and I don't have an issue 312 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: with victim of success and acclaim that is the problem. 313 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're so good, or you're doing things something so 314 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: unique and so different. These are the conversations we start 315 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: to have, right, And this is my biggest point here too. 316 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Fan bases that are bigger than simply the sport or 317 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: the athleticism. Rod they bring extra pr and extra conversations 318 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: that America ain't ready for, or that leagues and advertisers 319 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: don't want to have. 320 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: Here's what I mean. 321 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 6: You brought up Tim Tebow. Well, if he was just 322 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 6: a good college football player, we've had hundreds, right. No, 323 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 6: it's that he brings his faith with him in conversations 324 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 6: about that, and then it becomes a thing, Well, we 325 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: don't want them to talk about it. We don't want 326 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 6: to do that, and it becomes more than just simply, oh, 327 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 6: he's a good college football player, right. 328 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: It becomes more than that Caitlyn Clark, right. 329 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Because he because he was knealing that football games, right, 330 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Nobody seemed to have a problem with that, right though, 331 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Because then that that crowd is like I'm only. 332 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: Here for football? What was THEX? 333 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow is not only there for football, you know, 334 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: and the TOEW fans all the time. Uh brush cancer 335 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: awareness a great cause. But if you're saying you. 336 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 6: Only hear only football, military military, military days. 337 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: Only people out and all this what what what I 338 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: talk about here? 339 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 6: For final We only we cherry picked when we want 340 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 6: to hear. You know, It's it's called confirmation biased and 341 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: echo chambers. I only want to hear what I want 342 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 6: to hear. So this is my thing with this is 343 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 6: what I'm saying now. With like Caitlyn Clark. Kaitlyn Clark, 344 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 6: it ain't just about man, she's pretty good. She's averaging 345 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 6: like twenty and ten. Oh, with her, it comes all 346 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 6: the extra things. It comes, the racial things her and 347 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: Angel Reeves going on. It comes, Oh, is the WNBA 348 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: bullying her? 349 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: All? 350 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: It comes? 351 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 6: Should she be it's Middle America and versus you know, 352 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 6: bigger cities, and she's so the Iowa and the Indiana. 353 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 354 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 6: And so when you get these athletes that bring so 355 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 6: many things more than just the athleticism or the game 356 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 6: in which they play, the style in which they play, 357 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 6: this is where it happens. If it's Muhammad Muhammad Ali. 358 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 6: It ain't just he's a great boxer, I like him 359 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: or I don't like It's that he's speaking about his faith. 360 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 6: It's speaking up for black in America, speaking about the 361 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 6: rights of all people in America, and so people aren't 362 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 6: ready for that, him having criticisms of America. We ain't 363 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 6: ready for that. So Caitlyn Clark, because she's not just 364 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 6: she's a good basketball player. And this is what teams 365 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 6: aren't prepared for. Their pr rob ain't ready for this. 366 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 6: The league isn't ready for some of these conversations that 367 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 6: you have to have with these types of athletes that 368 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 6: bring other conversations. Advertisers, Hey, we don't want to be 369 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 6: associated with that, or we don't always have to answer 370 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 6: these questions, or we don't always want to have to 371 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 6: put up with that, and this is what you getting and. 372 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: Then you do it, then you could grieve me on that. 373 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: Just the idea of that they don't want to deal 374 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: with him. Was it if he had Andrew luck talent? 375 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: They were like, well, you know what. 376 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: Is right, but when you're already okay, you're good, and 377 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 6: we know you're good, but that's not the is the 378 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 6: lemon is the juice worth to squeeze And I think 379 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 6: sometimes in his case, now we don't want all that 380 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 6: extra stuff. Give you a great example, Michael Vick, They're like, no, man, 381 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 6: he's worth all that because they knew they being the Eagles, 382 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 6: we're gonna get out for a year and a half, 383 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 6: two year. People making fun, but they're like, man, we 384 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 6: know he can play. And he ended up being Comeback 385 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 6: Player of the Year. He put up crazy numbers that 386 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 6: he put up. Those numbers he put up for seven 387 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 6: eight years, it'd have been in the Hall of Fame. 388 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 6: So they felt it was worth it when it had 389 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 6: Michael Vick and auto criticism that would come with it. 390 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 6: The only thing I also say with the Caitlin Clark 391 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 6: in the Olympics is it goes to show that what 392 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 6: we're talking about the fan base is so crazy because 393 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 6: Christian Latner made the team when you go back to 394 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 6: the ninety two because they wanted just and there's several 395 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 6: people that were like, oh, that should have been, could 396 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 6: have been Isaiah Thomas, could have been another NBA, could 397 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 6: have been a pro and but because he didn't come 398 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 6: with all of that other stuff on her level, we 399 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 6: kind of ah that's kind of whack that he why 400 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 6: rather be somebody else and he ain't even that good 401 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 6: compared to the pros ah and we moved on. But 402 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 6: with her, it's a big conversation. I still think they 403 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 6: had missed an opportunity to put her on. 404 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: No, I get it, I really do. 405 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: I understand it though, because I understand it wouldn't have 406 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: been happy and then all of the attention on the 407 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: Olympic team would be about her and how. 408 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: She's not playing on Diana and other great players. That's 409 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: what they didn't want. 410 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: And I'm saying that it's I understand the thinking. 411 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: I do. 412 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: I still think I toltally. 413 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 6: I still think they missed an opportunity though, with all 414 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 6: that being said, because to me, it was a global 415 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 6: stage to continue to grow women's game and have more 416 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 6: people watching it. And I still think they missed that, 417 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 6: and you just have to bear with what comes with it. 418 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 6: But I do think they missed a boat not putting 419 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 6: her on the team. 420 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 421 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 422 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 423 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: listen live. 424 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 6: Well, you and I talk about something all the time 425 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 6: that I think is relevant in this situation that I 426 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 6: wanted to throw at you. Did you hear about the 427 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: the NFL in the NFL had to find a concealing 428 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 6: collusion findings, And essentially, if you recall, there was the 429 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 6: NFLPA had made that case that they believe there's some 430 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 6: clusion about after Deshaun Watson got all that money two 431 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 6: hundred and thirty guaranteed that now you had, they were 432 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 6: colluding to not pay guaranteed money to a handful of quarterbacks. 433 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 6: It was Kyler Murray, was Lamar Jackson, it was some 434 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 6: other players as well. So there's all of a sudden, 435 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 6: we just find out that there was a hearing where 436 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 6: the NFLPA in the NFL came together, they had a 437 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 6: meeting and said, hey, they find out there was some 438 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 6: evidence that there was collusion, but the NFLPA never told 439 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: the players. Rob And so this goes to something you 440 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 6: and I have talked about so many times, how the 441 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 6: NFLPA does wrong by the players. 442 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: It's embarrassing how the NFLPA does not have the interest 443 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: of the players at hand. So listen to this, Rob. 444 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 6: So they find out thing Arbor Raider that January fourteen 445 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 6: that they ruled that there was I'm sorry that they 446 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 6: found out that their NFL showed a clear preponderance of 447 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 6: the evidence and that there was something going on that 448 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: they were colluding. Did not have to play this ton 449 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 6: of guaranteed money to the players. The players never heard 450 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 6: about it until it came out this past Tuesday, Rob 451 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 6: six months. The players didn't know about this, you know, 452 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 6: how mean players are, Hey, what's going on here? Why 453 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 6: did I get this money? Agents call it? What's going on? 454 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: And they didn't know? 455 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 6: And I liking this rob to the fact that the NFL, 456 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 6: to me has reminded us over and over that it's 457 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 6: kind of like alcohol, where you know it ain't good 458 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 6: for you. You know it has a chance to kill. 459 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 6: You know, it's something I shall probably do it this 460 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 6: much and consume it this much. But dango is fun, dang, 461 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 6: and I enjoy it. 462 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 4: Dang. It makes things a little bit better. 463 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 6: And that's how I think we are with the NFL, 464 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 6: because every full handful of years they remind us that 465 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 6: they actually don't care about the players, that they actually 466 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: don't care about the things that they're promoting that they do, 467 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 6: and they just and it's blatant. Right, we got the 468 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 6: concussion stuff. They ignore the evidence to hide it. Then 469 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 6: they lose the case. They seven hundred seven hundred and 470 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: sixty five million. They have to give the players, current 471 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: and ex players, and now we hear about players dying 472 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 6: who aren't getting the money and they're not distributing the money. 473 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: Now. 474 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: But I don't even blame the NFL if you can 475 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 4: get away with it. The players scre it. I mean, 476 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 4: you think they giving us, You think. 477 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: They're given a commission of forty million dollars because because 478 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: he's not bringing the players in or he's not getting 479 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: the job done that they want. Like it's terrible, I mean, 480 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: it's it's embarrassing. Over and over all the NFL does 481 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: is brag about how much money it makes and yet 482 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't take care of player. 483 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: No health care. 484 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: No, the healthcare package is embarrassing. It is five years 485 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: after you retire, you get five years of coverage. So 486 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: the average career is three years, three and a half years. 487 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: So you're retiring it from the NFL twenty eight, twenty nine. 488 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: You wait till you're thirty four, then you get five 489 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: years from thirty four to thirty nine and then you're. 490 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: On your own. Then you're on your on the most 491 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: violent sport that we have. But that's when you need healthcare. 492 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Now, when you're thirty, twenty nine, twenty eight, you know 493 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, for the most part, you're usually. 494 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: At your healthiest. I mean, come on, it's embarrassed. 495 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: So this confidentiality, the agreement they had kept all the details. 496 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 6: Like I mentioned, it was a sixty page ruling. They 497 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 6: kept the secret to Poblo. Pablo Torri found us out 498 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 6: and he was talking about it. But now it's out there. 499 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 6: And as again as I mentioned yesterday, and so now 500 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 6: you have again the NFL is trying to backped The 501 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 6: NFLPA players are upset about this. You have people like, yo, 502 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 6: what what the heck? Why won't they if I'm Lamar Jackson, 503 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 6: as I mentioned just moments ago, who's the best player 504 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 6: in the NFL. 505 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: And it don't even shock me. It's it's embarrassing. It 506 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense, you know. 507 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 5: What I mean. 508 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 6: And you just look at this again, I just have 509 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: all this list of things that the NFL doesn't and 510 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 6: then mention you can get away to why won't you? 511 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 6: But you cover up what the CTE consualming I mentioned 512 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 6: that seven hundred and the other one. 513 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: I'll tell you the other one. 514 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: When they had a settlement uh with the NFL, the 515 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: original deal that they broke they had with the NFL. 516 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: The arbitrator sent it back to judge said it wasn't 517 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: enough money. Like like normally a judge is robber stamp. 518 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: You have two sides, you agree on a number. What 519 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: is the judge? Stop the judge. You're both happy, Okay, 520 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: let's go rubber stamp. The judge was like, no, no, no, 521 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: take the it's not enough money. That the whole union 522 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: should have been fired on the spot. If a judge 523 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: on an arbitrary arbitration says it's not enough money, how 524 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: did you negotiate that? 525 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: So, I mean you just look at so many of 526 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 4: the issues the NFLPA has had. Man. 527 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 6: We talk about the concussion issues and how they didn't 528 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 6: handle that. We talk about the fact that they as 529 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: you just mentioned that one there, when they didn't want 530 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 6: to get in the money. They've had internal conflicts with 531 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 6: disciplinary actions with the NFL where they're not standing up 532 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: for the players, they're kind of siding with the league 533 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 6: on certain things. So it's just interesting to me, Rob 534 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 6: that something like this can happen when you're supposed to 535 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: be looking out for you. You're the Players Association looking 536 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 6: out for them, and you and I sit up here 537 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 6: and always talk about you know who's got it right. 538 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 4: MLB. 539 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 6: You can say whatever you want. The Players Union, they 540 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 6: don't mess around. They don't mess around because they say 541 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 6: we will stop games. You lose money, you lose fans. 542 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 6: They and they stopped the World Series. And the NFLPA 543 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 6: is playing in players' faces with stuff like this, hiding 544 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 6: for six months something that could be huge for the players, 545 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 6: huge for the players. 546 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: It's absolutely terrible. 547 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: Everybody in the PA, NFLPA should be fire like immediately. 548 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 6: It's doing the world six months they sat on this 549 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 6: absolutely ridiculous