WEBVTT - Cookies & Oversight with Alexa Philippou

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to new music from Mountjoy Camp and counting pros while

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<v Speaker 1>we put Big X's on our calendars so work doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt our college hoops watching. It's Thursday, March sixth, and

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<v Speaker 1>on today's show, we'll be chatting with ESPN's Alexa Philippoo

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<v Speaker 1>about just how mad this March will be, her front

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<v Speaker 1>runner for Player of the Year and her favorite memories

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<v Speaker 1>of Diana Tarassi, plus keeping tabs on unrivaled rosters. A

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<v Speaker 1>legislative win we can actually celebrate Anna twenty four year

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<v Speaker 1>pro decides it's time to hang them up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all coming up right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back slices. Here's what you need to know today.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with some news out of Washington, DC. A

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<v Speaker 1>bill that would have redefined Title nine with the goal

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<v Speaker 1>of prohibiting transgender athletes from playing school sports has failed

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate. The bill, which passed in the House

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<v Speaker 1>in January, would have codified into law Trump's executive order

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<v Speaker 1>threat to remove federal funding from schools that allow transgender

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<v Speaker 1>girls and women to compete on teams consistent with their

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<v Speaker 1>gender identity. As a result, of the bill failing in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. That executive order is all that exists at

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<v Speaker 1>the federal level for now to Unrivaled, where we've got

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<v Speaker 1>some roster movement to update you on heading into the

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<v Speaker 1>final weekend of the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>First up the good news.

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<v Speaker 1>Marina Mabry made her Unrivaled season debut earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 1>playing twelve minutes in the Phantom's ninety two to seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine loss to the Lunar Owls on Monday, and Mabor

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<v Speaker 1>even Millie Rock during her introduction, showing off her biggest

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<v Speaker 1>area of improvement so far at Unrivaled dance moves. The

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<v Speaker 1>Phantom are currently last in the standings looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>Hail Mary to close out the regular season. Maby's return

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<v Speaker 1>helps because they won't have Sabrina Yenescu for the final run.

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<v Speaker 1>Per the league, Yenescu is done for the season due

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<v Speaker 1>to prior commitments that she made before signing on for

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<v Speaker 1>the league's inaugural season. Lace's BC player Natisha Heideman has

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<v Speaker 1>been reassigned to the Phantom to help even out team numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been super enthusiastic about Unrivaled all season, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think by next year need to tighten up some

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<v Speaker 1>of these things. I don't know that they'll be treated

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<v Speaker 1>as completely legitimate if they have players who are incapable

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<v Speaker 1>of playing out an entire season because of commitments, or

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<v Speaker 1>if they're consistently moving around players from team to team.

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<v Speaker 1>But for now we understand season one some kinks iron

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<v Speaker 1>out unrivaled regular season wraps up this Monday, with the

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<v Speaker 1>top four teams qualifying for the semi finals on March sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lunar Owls and.

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<v Speaker 1>Roseby C have both locked up playoff spots, with Vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>Missed Laces and Phantom fighting for the final two. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of Sabriana and NSCU, she also made news this week

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<v Speaker 1>by being introduced as an investor in NWSL team BAFC.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll also be serving as the club's official commercial advisor,

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<v Speaker 1>a role that, according to the team's press release, will

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<v Speaker 1>allow her to quote support BAFC athletes as they work

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<v Speaker 1>to build their portfolio of brand endorsements. End quote more

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<v Speaker 1>NWSL Houston Dash forward Yuki Nagasato has announced that she's

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<v Speaker 1>retiring from soccer following a twenty four year professional career.

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<v Speaker 1>The Japanese international made her Olympic debut in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and four, and was a member of the country's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eleven World Cup winning squad. She played eight seasons in

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<v Speaker 1>the NWSL, spending time with the Chicago Red Stars, Racing

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville and Houston Dash. In twenty twenty, Nagasato also made

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<v Speaker 1>history as the first woman to play for a Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>men's team when she joined her brother's team, which played

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan's second tier professional league. Yuki is a fan favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>a team favorite, and an all around wonderful, joyful light

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<v Speaker 1>of a person. The game will really miss her more.

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<v Speaker 2>Soccer. Let's start by.

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<v Speaker 1>Rewinding back to last May, when FIFA announced its intention

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<v Speaker 1>to host a Women's Club World Cup in early twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, featuring sixteen teams from leagues around the world

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<v Speaker 1>like the NWSL, WSL and more. Now, the soccer organizing

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<v Speaker 1>body says it needs more time and is postponing the

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<v Speaker 1>event until twenty twenty seven at the earliest, per the

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic The decision was made with input from clubs, confederations,

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<v Speaker 1>leagues and players unions, with those groups also advocating that

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<v Speaker 1>FIFA hosts a smaller four or six team event next winter. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>keep you posted as we learn more. To motorsports news,

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<v Speaker 1>friend of the Show, Catherine leg will make her NASCAR

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<v Speaker 1>Cup Series debut this weekend, competing in the Shriners Children's

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred in Phoenix on Sunday. In doing so, she'll

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<v Speaker 1>become the first woman to compete in a Cup Series

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<v Speaker 1>race since twenty eighteen. Way to go, Catherine, and if

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<v Speaker 1>any of you slices miss that episode with her, go

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<v Speaker 1>back and listen ahead of Sunday's race.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll link to it in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of friends of the show, Bob's letter Alana Meyers

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor will be in action at the World Bobsled and

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<v Speaker 1>Skeleton Championships in Lake Placid, running today through Sunday and

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<v Speaker 1>March fourteenth through sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Sled and Skeleton World Championships to be held in

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<v Speaker 1>the US since twenty twelve. Want to see how Alana does,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to the website where you can find the

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<v Speaker 1>schedule and race results in our show notes. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>fast cold sports and yet another friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a little cross country skiing news. The bi

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<v Speaker 1>annual World Championships in that sport are currently underway in Norway,

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<v Speaker 1>and on Wednesday, the American duo of Jesse Diggins and

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Kern won silver in the team sprintcond and straight

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<v Speaker 1>podium finish in the event after they claim.

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<v Speaker 2>Bronze two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And last, but not least, we want to send a

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<v Speaker 1>huge congratulations to US women's national team and Portland Thorns

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<v Speaker 1>forward Sophia Wilson formerly Sophia Smith, who's pregnant with her

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<v Speaker 1>first child. Wilson and her husband Michael, a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>for the NFL's Arizona Cardinals, made the announcement via a

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<v Speaker 1>post on Instagram yesterday and included photos of the two

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<v Speaker 1>holding sonogram images and the caption quote, life just keeps

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<v Speaker 1>getting sweeter, speaking asweet. If you haven't seen Michael rattling

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<v Speaker 1>off all of Soph's acomplishments and saying.

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<v Speaker 2>If she can do it, he can do it. Get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for some serious cheese in, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to that video and their baby announced post

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<v Speaker 1>in our show notes. We're wishing you a happy and

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<v Speaker 1>healthy pregnancy. So we got to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we're talking besketball. I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I shouldn't be singing right now. My voice is trash.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexa Philipoo caught up with her yesterday. It's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now.

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<v Speaker 1>She covers college hoops and the WNBA for ESPN. Previously

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<v Speaker 1>covered the Yukon Huskies and the Connecticut Sun for the

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<v Speaker 1>Hartford Current, and her work has appeared in the Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Morning News, Seattle Times, and Cincinnati Enquirer. A Stanford alum,

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<v Speaker 1>her past jobs include interning at the House Committee and

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<v Speaker 1>Oversight and Government Reform, and founding and working as head

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<v Speaker 1>chef of gourmet cookie company Mad Moose Bakery.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Alexa Philippoo, a high school chef.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not think that was going to ever see

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<v Speaker 3>the light of day on something work related, but yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I loved Here's the thing, Sarah, though, I like to

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<v Speaker 3>bake the cookies, but I don't eat cookies.

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<v Speaker 4>So like it was like I lost out most of

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<v Speaker 4>the fun. I just was doing it because I enjoyed it,

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<v Speaker 4>but I never.

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<v Speaker 2>Really Okay, Yeah, where'd we get the name Mad Moose Bakery?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? It's honestly a long story. But I was selling

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<v Speaker 4>them to my cousin and his nickname was Moose. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even remember how that came about. So it was

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<v Speaker 4>a playoff of like moose, like the animal, but then

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<v Speaker 4>like moose, like you know, a dessert.

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<v Speaker 2>Moose, So chocolate moose. Yeah, exactly right, sounds sounds very

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<v Speaker 2>high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, congratulations on being entrepreneurial even at a young age.

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<v Speaker 1>And congratulations on the ESPN contract extension that was just announced.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're sticking around with the Worldwide Leader. Happy to

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<v Speaker 1>hear you'll be sticking around, especially because we love getting

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<v Speaker 1>your expertise on all things college hoops. Conference tournaments are underway,

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<v Speaker 1>so any upsets you're watching.

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<v Speaker 4>For upsets, I mean, I think we have to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the SEC. I mean at the time that we're

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<v Speaker 4>recording this, I know, like Tennessee just they won their

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<v Speaker 4>game very comfortably against Texas adem but they're a nine

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<v Speaker 4>seed in the in the SEC tournament, which is wild, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So that conference is just so deep, So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily it feels like, yes, maybe we'll have South Carolina

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<v Speaker 4>and Well Text I guess like be the ultimate teams

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<v Speaker 4>that will face off in the final, But just because

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<v Speaker 4>of the depth of the conference, then you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>just don't know. Maybe if a certain if Kentucky gets hot,

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<v Speaker 4>if at Tennessee refinds its groove after that huge loss

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<v Speaker 4>to Georgia, so maybe we'll see some upsets. And then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, acc I want to see if Knitter Dame

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<v Speaker 4>kind of refinds its groove, if anyone else can really

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<v Speaker 4>challenge them, or if you know, it's really they're still

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<v Speaker 4>the team to beat. So those are the two I

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<v Speaker 4>really have my eye on. And then I think with

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<v Speaker 4>Big ten, we're probably just expecting UCLA USC Part three,

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<v Speaker 4>Big twelve. Yeah, I think I would probably picked TCU

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<v Speaker 4>at this point to they seem like they're the best

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<v Speaker 4>team right now, especially with Kanadasity a little injured, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who knows.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have to see. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And with Notre Dame, you mentioned NC State, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>technically the number one seed because of the tie breaker

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<v Speaker 1>in that one. So yeah, it's whether or not they

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<v Speaker 1>can be the team that they were kind of most

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, or they have a particular issue trying

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<v Speaker 1>to beat the wolf Pack in this tournament. Going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look ahead to the NCAA tournament. For new or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for those who are unfamiliar, how much do these

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<v Speaker 1>conference tournaments matter and how much does regular season success

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<v Speaker 1>impact seating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think, well, obviously we have a wealth of

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<v Speaker 4>data up to this point that the committee is using

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<v Speaker 4>to decide what the bracket looks like, and we were

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<v Speaker 4>able to see specifically with those top sixteen teams in

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<v Speaker 4>the reveal last week, what they're thinking was up to

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<v Speaker 4>that point. Of course, so much has happened literally since

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<v Speaker 4>that reveal that day, there were a ton of upsets.

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<v Speaker 4>Throughout the last week, there have been a ton of upsets,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think what's unique about this year is that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you have it's all also, we should say

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<v Speaker 4>different for each conference and different for each team. Some

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<v Speaker 4>teams are fighting to make it into March period, but

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<v Speaker 4>when we're talking about some of these real contenders or

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<v Speaker 4>the power for you know pretty much which teams are

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<v Speaker 4>probably going to make it. But then it is, like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, all about seating, and for this year, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting because the top sixteen teams, it feels like

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<v Speaker 4>a lot is fluid. There's still number one seeds up

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<v Speaker 4>for grabs. The teams that get to host those are

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<v Speaker 4>the top sixteen seeds I've been referring to, So that's

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<v Speaker 4>all really fluid as well. There's been upsets like Ohio

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<v Speaker 4>State losing that like right now, they're not slated to hosts.

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<v Speaker 4>According to Charlie Gums projections, could a team like Maryland

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<v Speaker 4>go on a run and get back in that position.

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<v Speaker 4>Kansas State is a little bit of a precarious spot too,

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<v Speaker 4>So we're looking at who's going to host. We're also

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<v Speaker 4>looking at who's going to get that number one overall seed,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that who ends up having a really

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<v Speaker 4>strong run the next week is We're going to termine

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of that. So I think it's exciting because

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of intrigue and it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 4>anything in the Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>So much parody wide open field.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned we got our first look at what the

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<v Speaker 1>top sixteen looks like from the Basketball Committee before those

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<v Speaker 1>upsets and thing offers tournaments. But UCLA, Texas, USC and

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame the number one seeds. And to your point

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<v Speaker 1>about the home advantage, it's a debate that's raged for

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<v Speaker 1>several years in the women's game of should we still

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<v Speaker 1>be giving home court advantage and host opportunities to teams

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<v Speaker 1>or should it be like the men's tournament where it's

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<v Speaker 1>neutral sites. Do you think we're still at a place

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<v Speaker 1>in the women's game where it's beneficial to have those

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<v Speaker 1>home sites and to encourage tickets and attendance and everything

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<v Speaker 1>by you know, placing them in basketball hotbeds, or are

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<v Speaker 1>we at a spot where we might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>move toward neutral sites.

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<v Speaker 4>Personally, I love that teams could host in a women's game,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think there's nothing like I just remember actually

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<v Speaker 4>one time walking into it was a second round game

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<v Speaker 4>here in stores. I'm saying here in Stortside. I'm literally

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<v Speaker 4>here in stores after having to do some interviews here

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<v Speaker 4>and so just walking into the gamble pavilion and it

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<v Speaker 4>was like an atmosphere for a second round game. I

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<v Speaker 4>was not expecting, but it was electric. You could feel

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<v Speaker 4>just like the tension brewing, and it was a really

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<v Speaker 4>actually tough game for Yu Kong. As we're playing, I

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<v Speaker 4>think it might have been you see yes at the

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<v Speaker 4>time or yeah, that sounds right. So I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know, they're really well attended. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>seeing environments where it's like no one's in the stands

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, what's the point here? And my argument

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<v Speaker 4>for keeping that too is like you should you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know this doesn't apply to maybe some of the

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<v Speaker 4>lower mid majors, But for the most part, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>in the conversation to host, you know you have the

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<v Speaker 4>like if you want to host like investor program, do

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<v Speaker 4>well in the regular season and in your conference tournament,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you can be in a position to have

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, quote unquote advantage. So I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I would probably be really disappointed they move away from it.

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<v Speaker 4>I see why people like neutral sites, but like, we

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<v Speaker 4>do get neutral sites obviously once we get to the

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<v Speaker 4>regionals and then the final four, so we have that

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<v Speaker 4>built in. But I just think campus sites, it's still

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<v Speaker 4>college athletics. And yes, also too, they're gonna be upsets,

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<v Speaker 4>like we're seeing more and more upsets in the women's game.

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<v Speaker 4>So hopefully it's a good balance, like for the whole

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<v Speaker 4>scope of the tournament that you have a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>at that college field, but also the neutrality and the

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<v Speaker 4>later on.

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<v Speaker 1>How many teams deep do I have to go for

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<v Speaker 1>you to say that they have a legitimate chance to

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<v Speaker 1>win it.

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<v Speaker 4>All, I'd say six. Do you want me to name

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<v Speaker 4>them or do you want to game them together?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's hear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I think, let's you know you have at

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<v Speaker 4>the top Texas USC. I might be messing up the

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<v Speaker 4>exact rankings right now, South Carolina, UCLA, Yukon and Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame, I think those are the six for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people like to put else you in there, but

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen that championship level play for them. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I wouldn't be I don't think i'd pick them

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<v Speaker 4>to make the final for her right now, but I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be shocked if they do, because they just obviously

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<v Speaker 4>have the talent. But yeah, for me, it's been to

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<v Speaker 4>six that I really think have the shanga shot. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's been honestly pretty consistent throughout the season that

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<v Speaker 4>those above the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've kind of shuffled around the top the top rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any potential dark courses? Is there a team

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<v Speaker 1>maybe LSU is one, but is there a team that

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<v Speaker 1>you think if everything is hidden, yeah, they could do

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<v Speaker 1>some damage.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so. The Big twelve is interesting because

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like they've it's been like a very the

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<v Speaker 4>ones completely emerge as a power, like you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>saw that from TCU, but then they've had their own

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<v Speaker 4>ups and downs. Kansas State. I think it's unfortunate Aoka

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<v Speaker 4>Lead has been injured, especially towards like the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the season, so that's a factor for them. But like

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<v Speaker 4>those are two teams I would definitely watch, like if

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<v Speaker 4>they really catch fire at the right time, Kansas State

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<v Speaker 4>again would need I think Aoka Lead healthy and contributing

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<v Speaker 4>and on the floor to be able to go in

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<v Speaker 4>a run. And TCU obviously, I know we talked about

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<v Speaker 4>them before the last time I was on with their

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<v Speaker 4>kind of duo of Helly Van Left and Stoner Prints

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<v Speaker 4>and then I don't know if I feel that strongly

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<v Speaker 4>about this in the sense that they just were upset

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<v Speaker 4>in a really kind of maybe tellyway against Georgia. But

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<v Speaker 4>Tennessee again, like they have to they could probably Like

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<v Speaker 4>I guess what we could say about them is like,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously they could lose to anyone. They just lost to Georgia,

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<v Speaker 4>but I also think it could beat a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>good teams, and we saw them against a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the good SEC teams earlier this year, come really close

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<v Speaker 4>to Vega, and then they have the big win against

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<v Speaker 4>you go too against.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, any under the radar storylines, we should be following

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<v Speaker 1>either on the court or off the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Entering the tournament.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just really interested to see. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 4>the first year after you know, Caitlin Clark had kind

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<v Speaker 4>of taken the whole basketball scene by storm. I think

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people in the sport were saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she's obviously a star in her own right, but there

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<v Speaker 4>were other stars too that were, you know, really doing

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<v Speaker 4>great things. And so now that you know she's moved

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<v Speaker 4>on to the WNBA, I'm really eager to see which

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<v Speaker 4>stars are going to show out the most in March.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it going to be the pagebackers, and is it

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the you know, the Juju Watkins or

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<v Speaker 4>you know, could Hana Hidalgo be in that conversation, or

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's you know, other people we haven't talked about yet,

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<v Speaker 4>like Mikaela Blake for example at Vanderbilt. She's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best freshmen in the country. There's another great freshman

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<v Speaker 4>and Sarah Strong who could really make her name in

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<v Speaker 4>March as well. So I just it's always that like

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<v Speaker 4>time where you're just like, who's going to be that

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<v Speaker 4>team or that player that really emerges. Like last year

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't think NC State would necessarily do that, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they're there in the final four for the first

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<v Speaker 4>time since you know, they had been there since like

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<v Speaker 4>ninety eight or ninety nine. So I just love that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of anticipatory feeling of like you just don't know

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what's gonna happen or who's gonna, you know, really

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<v Speaker 4>pop off. And then and then once like we get there,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just look very fascinated to see, like who's actually

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<v Speaker 4>in Tampa by the end of it, if it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be one of mostly from that group of six

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<v Speaker 4>that we talked about, or maybe you know some people

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<v Speaker 4>were surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And the stakes are really higher than ever, not

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<v Speaker 1>just because of the eyeballs and the fan interest, but

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<v Speaker 1>for the players, nil opportunities, the chance to make your

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<v Speaker 1>name on the highest stage, the chance to get people

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<v Speaker 1>to know you and make you a household name, really

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<v Speaker 1>happens so much during tournament time. And then also this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first year that leagues and teams get paid

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<v Speaker 1>when their teams advance. For such a long time, there

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<v Speaker 1>were payouts on the men's side, and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>real benefit to investing in your program and watching it

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<v Speaker 1>go far and on the women's side, you go win

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<v Speaker 1>the whole damn thing and you get nothing. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the women and the teams and leagues

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<v Speaker 1>are getting paid when there are teams advance just ups

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<v Speaker 1>the ante on everything. It makes everything bigger and more important.

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<v Speaker 1>At tournament time, you mentioned a couple of the names, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>Paige Juju front runners for player of the year if

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<v Speaker 1>I give you Juju Watkins, Hannah Hidalgo, Paigebackers, Lauren Betts,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Tanaia Latson who's leading the league in scoring,

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<v Speaker 1>leading the country in scoring. Is there anybody that really

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<v Speaker 1>for you has already sealed it up personally?

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<v Speaker 4>I know some places have started to make their kind

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<v Speaker 4>of proclamations, at least some of the media sites. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't necessarily know if it's one hundred percent of done deal.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Juju Watkins might have the edge because of

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<v Speaker 4>those games against UCLA, because the fact that they won

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<v Speaker 4>the Big Ten title and they want it outright. You

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<v Speaker 4>can say enough about what she's done this year and

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<v Speaker 4>specifically just like she has help around her, but she's

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<v Speaker 4>still the centerpiece of everything they do, and she's taking

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<v Speaker 4>on so much in different areas before But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if if USC stumbles in the Big ten tournament, in

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<v Speaker 4>Hanna Hidalgo goes on a run, or Pagebackers suddenly takes over,

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<v Speaker 4>or baby Lauren Betts finds her way again. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's interesting because these are humans making their own

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<v Speaker 4>decisions on this, and the voting process I think probably

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<v Speaker 4>differs based off each award or based off you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if it's a publication for claiming someone the player of

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<v Speaker 4>the year. So I think it's a little bit still

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<v Speaker 4>up forgots. I don't think someone's completely separated themselves, but

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<v Speaker 4>right now would probably say that, like the edge probably

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<v Speaker 4>feels like it's it's juju. But we'll see what people say.

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<v Speaker 1>Another big thing to watch for during the tournament is

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<v Speaker 1>how YU confers and whether that will affect star senior

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<v Speaker 1>guard Azy Fud's decision to stay for another year she

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<v Speaker 1>has eligibility or go to the WNBA draft. Her most

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<v Speaker 1>recent quote was, we'll see about the fifth year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we've heard. Do you have a strong opinion

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<v Speaker 2>on what her choice should be.

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<v Speaker 4>She's such, she's in a unique situation because this is

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<v Speaker 4>really her first fully healthy year or I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know if fully mostly. Yeah, since really her freshman year.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think she's she does seem to really love

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<v Speaker 4>it at Yukon and to be able to play more

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<v Speaker 4>here might be something that she wants to do. She

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<v Speaker 4>might want to be able to prove like I can

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<v Speaker 4>do like a whole healthy season, or I can come

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<v Speaker 4>back and you know, I can compete it for a

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<v Speaker 4>national championship. You know, if she's back here with Sarah

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<v Speaker 4>Strong leaning away, that's a pretty good, you know, two

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<v Speaker 4>player duo that would that would be really able to

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<v Speaker 4>compete for a championship. So but then at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>you go into the w n b A and you're

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<v Speaker 4>able to just start your pro career right away. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>she would rather do that than you know, people talk about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the risk of getting injured again or whatnot. Obviously,

0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's only so much you can do can

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<v Speaker 4>control for that. But yeah, and then at the WNBA,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's also very interesting this year because right like

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<v Speaker 4>these players that are getting drafted this year, they're rocked

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<v Speaker 4>into a rookie scale contract that's probably not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be what the rookie scale contracts look like next year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because the CBA, right the CBA will look a lot different,

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a ton of factors. She was joking that

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<v Speaker 4>she's not a great decision maker, which I relate to

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.399
<v Speaker 4>I stressed out about decisions like that. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really curious to see what she does. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think what's really just been great about her story is

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<v Speaker 4>that she's been able to really show, you know, why

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<v Speaker 4>she was a number one overall recruit, why she was

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<v Speaker 4>so hyped coming out of high school, because of what

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<v Speaker 4>she's been able to do, especially in that South Carolina game.

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<v Speaker 4>So hopefully either way, you know, she'll have a really

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 4>good path ahead of her.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's switch gears to the w NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Were there any really big off season moves that you

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<v Speaker 1>think changed the trajectory of a team, like maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>team that took the biggest leap as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>the move they made this offseason.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's got to be the Indiana fever. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the way that they were able to I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they they overhauled their roster, not by getting rid of

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, their two stars, but like everyone around them, right,

0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 4>So the players that they brought in are championship pedigree players.

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<v Speaker 4>They're veterans there and then from a best ball standpoint, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it makes a lot of sense like bringing it able

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<v Speaker 4>to bring in a player like Natasha Howard as an

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<v Speaker 4>upgrade from Melissa Smith. No, you know, no kind of

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.240
<v Speaker 4>diss on Melissa Smith, but it's Natasha Howard. And then

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 4>you have Dewana bon or Sophie Cunningham. I have an

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.440
<v Speaker 4>experience point guard to back up Kaitlyn Clark and Sydney Coolson.

0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.679
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, I think the Fever are showing that

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<v Speaker 4>they are in the contender conversation, and that is not

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily where most of us we weren't. We just weren't

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 4>sure if they would be able to make that leap

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<v Speaker 4>that soon. And you know, basically your two of Caitlin

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<v Speaker 4>or your two of Kaitlyn and Aaliyah Boston being in

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<v Speaker 4>the on the court together. So I think by far

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<v Speaker 4>that they they really made the most noise. And for agents.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of noise of free agency, Marina Maybray asked for

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<v Speaker 1>a trade out of Connecticut after they essentially got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of their entire starting five.

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<v Speaker 2>She was only there for part of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>After being traded from the Chicago Sky they said we

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<v Speaker 1>will not trade you, not only because of what we

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<v Speaker 1>gave up to get you, but because we're also optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>about adding pieces around you and having you on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I see both sides of this, like why do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to play around that doesn't want to be there?

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<v Speaker 1>And also, we can't afford to have no leverage in

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<v Speaker 1>a trade situation when you've already made public that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave and not get back enough in return

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody that we gave up pieces to have and

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<v Speaker 1>build around. Where do you sit on how this will

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<v Speaker 1>be received by the rest of the WNBA watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Connecticut Sun operate, or even by Maybury and her ability

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<v Speaker 1>to if she sticks around, put it behind her and

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<v Speaker 1>play hard and well for that team.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a really interesting situation because we haven't, at

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<v Speaker 4>least since I've started covering the w BA, we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>had a ton of really public, you know, trade requests

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<v Speaker 4>and then a team just coming out and saying we're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna follow through with that. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Marina Mayby is someone who is really competitive, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I I have a hard time imagining her completely just

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<v Speaker 4>like wanting to, like, I feel like when she's if she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not gonna James Harden it Yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 4>She's gonna want to win and want to like do well,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, she's if she can prove her worth,

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<v Speaker 4>like whether or not she's in. Let's assume she's still

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<v Speaker 4>at the Sun and she can prove her worth in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five, that would set her up well in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty. Sorry, I'm just like what twenty twenty six?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what year is it? Yeah, what year is it?

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<v Speaker 4>And how are we already in twenty twenty six? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>she can prove her worth in twenty twenty six, So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think the Sun are hoping it's a

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<v Speaker 4>sort of situation where she really just decides when she

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<v Speaker 4>things settle down, you know, I can you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>want her to be the centerpiece, right, they want her

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<v Speaker 4>to have the ball in her hands a lot, So

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<v Speaker 4>they're hoping that's an advantageous situation for both Marina and

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<v Speaker 4>for the team. I think around the league, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just really interesting the different paths that all these

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<v Speaker 4>different teams on and the fact that like everything is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a blank slate essentially in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>six is playing into this too. But right now, I

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<v Speaker 4>think for the Sun, you know, they have some pieces

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<v Speaker 4>that they want to you know, they have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Tina Charles or Marina Mabreen, Natasha Clouds still on

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<v Speaker 4>the roster you know as of now too, so you

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<v Speaker 4>know they could kind of try and compete with them.

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<v Speaker 4>But also the long term I think there are they

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<v Speaker 4>really are trying to kind of retool their roster and

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<v Speaker 4>build with a younger core. So that's something that might

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<v Speaker 4>take some time to actually see come into fruition. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's like so interesting because of the different timelines that

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<v Speaker 4>all these teams have, and there's not really a ton

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<v Speaker 4>of teams that are fully kind of committing to like

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<v Speaker 4>a full rebuild and the you know in the traditional sense.

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<v Speaker 4>I think maybe with the Mystics having so many first

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<v Speaker 4>round draft picks, they might kind of be a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more like on that line. And they also have

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<v Speaker 4>obviously new Ga Avenue head coach too. But a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of teams are trying to compete or you know, be

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<v Speaker 4>really good this year too, and I think part of

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<v Speaker 4>that is just also there's so much attention on the

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<v Speaker 4>league now that no one wants to no one wants

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<v Speaker 4>to look bad off year, have off year, and then

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<v Speaker 4>also like they want to maintain. They want to maintain

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<v Speaker 4>and apeel for free agents going into twenty six too,

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<v Speaker 4>so there's that element as well.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the teams with the biggest changes of the

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix Mercury, not just because of the shuffling of a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of players, but because Diana Tarrassi did officially tell

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<v Speaker 1>us that she was retiring. We kind of knew it

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<v Speaker 1>with that farewell video, but you never know what dts,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were holding out hope and now that she

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<v Speaker 1>has announced her retirement. You were part of putting together

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<v Speaker 1>a really great story for ESPN untold stories about the

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<v Speaker 1>retired WNBA legend from her teammates or competitors, coaches, family members.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have a favorite from that story?

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<v Speaker 4>I did, and it was something that actually didn't make

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<v Speaker 4>the final cut, so I waited talk about it. So

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<v Speaker 4>I talked with Morgan Valley, who was this assistant coach

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<v Speaker 4>at Yukon now and was Diana's roommate in college, I

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<v Speaker 4>think for multiple years, and it was just it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>as much like of a specific moment, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>more so like the story behind the bun that I

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<v Speaker 4>thought was just like incredible. But basically she was describing

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<v Speaker 4>to me, how like Diana used to like lay down

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<v Speaker 4>on the couch and like have her hair hanging off

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<v Speaker 4>the back of it, and then she would have like

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<v Speaker 4>a brush and the hairspray and this whole get up

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<v Speaker 4>and there was they used this like massive and I

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of confused about this, but I guess this

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<v Speaker 4>was the thing. It was like a massive like Rice

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<v Speaker 4>Crispy treat that was like used as like a table

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<v Speaker 4>and so because like they're in this like cramped dorm,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and so like she's using this whole like

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<v Speaker 4>kind of setup to do the pair, to do the bun.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently at one point there was you know, she was

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<v Speaker 4>doing more of like a ponytail situation. But I loved

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<v Speaker 4>I just like could clearly picture Diane just like laying

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<v Speaker 4>back and like spending all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time get it as tight as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course then you know has it's a living

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<v Speaker 4>kind of legend at this point and of itself. So right,

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<v Speaker 4>I love that little bit of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did the Rice Krispy treat fall into place?

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<v Speaker 4>Here?

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<v Speaker 1>This is she was using that as a table to

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<v Speaker 1>lean against, or maybe it looked like a Rice Crispy tree,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, it was definitely. Morgan definitely said it was a

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<v Speaker 4>Rice Krispy treat and they were using it as it

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<v Speaker 4>sounded like using as a table to like put some

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<v Speaker 4>of the stuff on, because they didn't have maybe like

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<v Speaker 4>a huge table to begin with her a kind of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff in the dorm.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I'm like, interesting, I'm looking it up right

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<v Speaker 1>now and the world's largest allegedly is only two pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>so it just doesn't feel like it'd be big enough

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<v Speaker 1>to use as a table. But I am seeing someone

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok holding a relatively large.

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<v Speaker 2>Rice Krispy treat.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll have to do some further research on exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how you can make a table out of a Rice

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<v Speaker 1>Chrispy tree.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I have to definitely follow with her about that,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave it to Tarasi to somehow give us the most

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious story possible, even when it's just about doing her hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, everyone can check out that story.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to it in the show notes because it's

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<v Speaker 1>great to hear from all sorts of people just sharing

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<v Speaker 1>their stories about DT and it's always great to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from you. So thank you so much for giving us

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<v Speaker 1>some time and your expertise as we get really excited

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<v Speaker 1>for these conference tournaments in March madness.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks for having me, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to take another break.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, one team finds a win in

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<v Speaker 1>a step situation, stick around, welcome back slices.

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<v Speaker 1>Women's basketball coach lost to Doge cuts stick sound to

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<v Speaker 1>lead his team to the NAIA Tournament, rating ten out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten Middle fingers to the Doge Bags Review. Nearly

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent of the workforce at Haskell Indian Nations

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<v Speaker 1>University was fired last month as part of Doge's haphazard

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<v Speaker 1>and politically motivated cuts, including fourth year women's basketball coach

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Strom. My buddy Kevin Blackistone wrote a story for

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington Post about Strom's firing, writing quote, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>in the six trillion dollar plus federal budget. Getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the Native American women's basketball coach at an indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>university established by the government ostensibly in part to write

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<v Speaker 1>some of its voluminous wrongs against the Native people that

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<v Speaker 1>trampled makes a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>More from blackistone on Haskell University quote, Haskell is one

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<v Speaker 1>of at least thirty five TCUs or tribal colleges and universities.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not unlike HBCUs historically black colleges and universities.

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<v Speaker 1>They too, were born out of refusal by this land's

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<v Speaker 1>settler colonial class to provide any meaningful education to the

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<v Speaker 1>progeny of the millions of indigenous people it really preferred

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<v Speaker 1>to eradicate, or the progeny of the millions of humans

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<v Speaker 1>it traffic from Africa to exploit. Blackistone continues later quote

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<v Speaker 1>the mission of TCUs and HBCUs is to educate the

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<v Speaker 1>marginalized ethnic and racial students referenced in their titles, and

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<v Speaker 1>Haskell is even more pointed as part of a treaty

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<v Speaker 1>and trust signed between American Indians and this country, Haskell's

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<v Speaker 1>mission is specifically to lift up those who are members

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<v Speaker 1>of federally recognized tribes or can prove native ancestry through blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Last fall, Haskell enrolled nine hundred seventy eight students from

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty six tribes. Seventeen make up the

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<v Speaker 1>women's basketball team. And that's how their women's basketball coach

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<v Speaker 1>got swept up in the mailstream of malefaction metastasizing across

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<v Speaker 1>the country because he was a federal employee at a

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<v Speaker 1>federally funded entity.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an infuriating story of politically motivated cuts to a

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<v Speaker 1>place that doesn't deserve it and can't afford it. But

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<v Speaker 1>Strom isn't walking away. Instead of leaving the team, he

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<v Speaker 1>stayed on as an un paid volunteer and just led

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<v Speaker 1>his squad to a fifty seven to fifty two win

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<v Speaker 1>over Northern New Mexico in the Continental Athletic Conference championship game,

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<v Speaker 1>earning a berth in the NAIA National Tournament. We are

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<v Speaker 1>all rooting for you, Haskell and coach Strom. We'll link

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<v Speaker 1>to that blackistone article in the show notes if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to read it now, it's your turn, rate and review.

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<v Speaker 2>Go do it right now, do it, do it. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for listening.

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