1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman of the Action Network. I am 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: live from my Tommy John home studio, and I'm joined 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: as always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: my BFF professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, good morning chat. 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: How are we doing? 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's like kind of chilly in the Northeast. 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: I get the layer. I turned on the heat in 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: my office today. 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Conditioned restrictions apply all right as always 35 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday during the season, we like to hear how 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: the wise guys are responding to our Tuesday conversation. That's 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: how influential we are the lines move based on our conversations, 38 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: and pros feel compelled to weigh in on our opinions. Simon, 39 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: let's do sharp calls. 40 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: Hello, who's there? I'm talking Rain rain telephone range. 41 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Somebody said, maybe what you do? 42 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: All right? Chat? Well, off the top, we're against the 43 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: pros and a lot of our picks. What could go wrong? 44 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: They like the Ravens, and I mean, we could dive 45 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: into that game more. It might be win. They might 46 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: bullow me out of our Washington love. 47 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: But I'm hoping they do. 48 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, it's the Joe public play. We talked 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: about it, but I don't know. I just think the 50 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: books they've been caught up to those Washington teams the 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: professionals think they have and that this number should be 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: seven and a half. And this Washington team is truly 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: at the peak of their value right now. So again, 54 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: you just said we're gonna dive into that one, So 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. We talked about the Chargers, 56 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: that Broncos game. The Pros they love the Broncos. It's 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: not as split as you think it would be. It's 58 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: not Pros versus Joe's. It's actually the public and the 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: pros on Denver and a couple of professionals are out 60 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: there taking this Chargers team. So that feels like it's 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: going to be a couple of pros and the books 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: against mainly the public. Right with that Denver number. Another 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: game we talked about that we love. We knew this 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: was going to be this way. We love the lines. 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: The pros absolutely love this Dallas team, and it reminded 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: me a lot of what we loved about the Rams 67 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: last week. Right, the Rams got the three and a half, 68 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: just like this Dallas number did. The professionals came in. 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm obviously heavy with the money, have bet this back 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: down to three at most books. Well, I'll see how 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: you feel about it, chat, I haven't waivered. I still 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: like this matchup for Detroit. I think that what they're 73 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: betting on is a lot of historical trends and the 74 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: reason they're back in this Cowboys team they think. I 75 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: guess that the lines will be sluggish come up a bye, 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: but I'm looking forward for us bricking that one down. 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: You know, the Giants one I talked about that. I 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: love that game. The professionals love that. There there classic 79 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: spot of you know grab the three and a half 80 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: now if you want. But I already talked about it. 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: I could see this number going down if Neighbors gets cleared. 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: Hasn't got cleared yet, even though a couple of books 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: are already showing threes. I'm hoping, hoping Neighbors gets cleared today, 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: and that's when I look like a genius for getting 85 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: this number early. But right now, if you didn't get 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: the three and a half on Tuesday, you could still 87 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: get it right now. Neighbors has not been cleared, so 88 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: that number has not moved in the last one A game. 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Me and you both love the Pros, love the Jets. 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: This is a nice spot the bet the Jets. It's 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: a good value on the number. So I'm sure that's 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: a game we're gonna break down as well. So at 93 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: the start of it, I was a little nervous because 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: they were on the other side of a lot of 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: our picks. But we came back around there at the end. 96 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: So we'll see how this week goes for us. 97 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel like they are actually And so 98 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: there's two things we have a preponderance of this week 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: that are all sort of thematic home underdogs. A ton 100 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: of home underdogs, Evan, I don't know if you know 101 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: if this is accurate. I heard Stucky say this on 102 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: the podcast with Chris raibon the Action Network podcast on 103 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: Thursday Mornings said it might be the most home underdogs 104 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: in one week in NFL history. I'm not sure if 105 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: he got that from you, Evan. 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: Right about in his article, but he did know. It's 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: smooth because there's only nine home dogs now because there 108 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: was ten, but the Tennessee flipped so favorite, right. 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about that game. So there 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: was ten, now there's nine. We talk about the public 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: a lot games in which the betting tickets are lopsided 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: for one team. That is a key indicator that the 113 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: public is on that side. A reminder that this season, 114 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: the betting public so when fifty one percent or more 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: of the tickets are on one side or the other, 116 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: they are twenty eight, forty six and two this season. 117 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what ats percenters that is, if someone 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: can throw that in the chat, but it is the 119 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: worst start for the betting public through four weeks in 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the past twenty years. And by the way, their best 121 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: week was last week when they went six and eight 122 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: and Simon and I happen to suffer the consequences of 123 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: some of that. So when we talk about betting against 124 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: the public, it is historically a good idea. It is 125 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: definitely a good idea. This year, we're going to get 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: into it starting with this very first game. And Simon, 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Washington and Baltimore. Baltimore is still six and a half. 128 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: You are, and admittedly on the opposite side of the 129 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: wise guys on this. You said that on Tuesday when 130 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: you said you were into this game. This is great. 131 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: Fifty two percent of the tickets are in Washington, fifty 132 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: two percent of the money is on Baltimore. It is 133 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: a one hundred percent pros Joe's split. I have not 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: been able to come around to your side, and we 135 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: have been looking to sell the Commanders right. How much 136 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: higher can they fly? How much better can Jayden Daniels 137 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: really be? Matchup wise? This does play to the raven strengths. 138 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: They're one of the most efficient early down teams in 139 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: the league going against one of the worst early down offenses. 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: And we've said this before, like against the Chiefs last 141 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: season in the title game, which if the Ravens had 142 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: just run the ball, they would have dominated that game. 143 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: If they can do that keep Jayden Daniels off the field. Historically, 144 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: teams covering the spread by five points or more like 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: the Commanders only cover forty three percent of the time. 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: So that's that's my Raven's take. I know you have 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: Commander's take here, So I don't know if I can 148 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: help put you over the edge and being bullied. 149 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Can't because I got my man Evan here, who's got 150 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: some amazing numbers. If you look at just teams who 151 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: were playing on seven days rest or less that played 152 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: an overtime and now they're playing against a team that 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: hasn't played over time, they are just forty two percent 154 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: against the spread. Guess who fits that description This Raven's team. Yeah. 155 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: And there's there's a bunch of other stuff that trends 156 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: a point to this team here and this Commander's team. 157 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: I think you kneel it though. The fear here is 158 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: when do we get off this boat? And it was 159 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: same with last week. It was like I knew that 160 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: was the right spot to take watching against the Cleveland 161 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: But me and Chat have done this long enough to 162 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: know that eventually it's gonna fall off. Like it's just 163 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: how football is. You just can't be consistently great every 164 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: week and everything goes so smooth. And what this kid 165 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: doing is doing right now, Jane Daniels, that we've just 166 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: you know, I've never seen anything like it with a 167 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: rookie being so confident that nobody. 168 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: Has seen anything. It's it's literally precedent setting. 169 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: So I told you my view of it is pretty simple. 170 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: These professionals, they've bet ten K against them when they're 171 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: playing against Arizona. They've done twenty K when it was 172 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: against Cleveland. Now they're up to thirty K. I mean, 173 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: they're just going to keep up in the bet because 174 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 2: they know eventually it's going to hit for him. And 175 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: I just I don't agree with the logic, and I 176 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: don't know. I just I won't take watching on the 177 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: money line here because we know the Lamar stats against NFC. Right, 178 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: He's twenty one and one straight up against the NFC. 179 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: That's a big deal, right, He's historically even if he 180 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: doesn't cover the big spreads, which me and you always 181 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: love to fade Lamar in this spot like this is 182 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: when he does not cover, he does not cover. 183 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Then in eighteen is a spread of more than a 184 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: field goal. Say that number again, seven and eighteen as 185 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: against the spread as a favorite of more than a 186 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: field goal. 187 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: So you know we have to do long term. This 188 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: is a bet you're supposed to make, like this is 189 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: a bet you're supposed to make on the Commanders because 190 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: long term it is a winner. 191 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: Right, But there's so many trends that say long term, 192 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: this is a bet on the Ravens. There's one thing 193 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: you said last week that sort of hammered home. Why 194 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: that gives me a little pause, which is this Ravens 195 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: defense at the end of the game tends to go 196 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: soft right when teams have to pass against them. That 197 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: is their greatest weakness. They are not a good pass 198 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: defense right now, and Jaden Daniels the opportunity to have 199 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: to be throwing the ball. If they're down by thirteen points, 200 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: they're down by twelve points, they're down by ten points, 201 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: they're down by eight points, down by seven points. All 202 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the back door is wide open. And 203 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: as much as I think the Ravens are the right side, 204 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to bet on this defense against Jayden 205 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: Daniels at the end of the game where the Commanders 206 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: can't win, but they can certainly get closer, and nobody's 207 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: on that team is going to stop playing. That's what 208 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: worries me. But do I feel good enough about betting 209 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: on a back door hope? Do you know what I mean? Yeah? 210 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: I think we're all just you again. Like I said, 211 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: we mean you've done this long enough to know that 212 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: this is just a fishy line. There's a couple of 213 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: fishy lines this week, and this is one of them 214 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: where it's like, I don't get why this number is 215 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: so big. I think they would be getting just as 216 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: much action on Washington if this was four and a 217 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: half then they would if it was six and a half. 218 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: So that's what say. It scared me a little bit 219 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: is the books are taking a position. Professionals are taking 220 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: a position with the books long term. That's usually a 221 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: nice spot to be. So unfortunately it's probably not gonna 222 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: be one of our five. But I don't know. I'm 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: dug in here on Washington. I do like washing at 224 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: this number. It's just all the other outside noise and 225 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: everything else is just giving me a lasitation here because 226 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: we just know something's off about this number in this line, 227 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: and to me, it's either the books. You're protecting knowing 228 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: that if they had made this number shorter, they'd be 229 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: get a lot more Washington money, and maybe they're taking 230 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: a position that way. But yeah, this is definitely one 231 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: of the games that, even if I don't have a 232 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: lot of money on, it's gonna be one of the 233 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: center TVs. 234 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Simon, we have to do two things on this show today. 235 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: We have to give people a foxhole and we have 236 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: to give people our big ball Better the Week presented 237 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: by Tommy John. If you've got the balls, Tommy John 238 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: has the support. Great games start with great underwear. The 239 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: sign over my shoulder says it all and Tommy John 240 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: makes the greatest and what we are going to do 241 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: today right now with our big balls, we are going 242 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:14,359 Speaker 1: to tell people to do something that will require support 243 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: because you and I are both in on the New 244 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: England Patriots as seven point underdogs at home against the 245 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. I like it for the spot, I like 246 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: it for the matchup, I like it for the number. 247 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: I like it for the trends. It is our big 248 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: Balls bet of the Week, Simon. I even check the weather. 249 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: It's going to be beautiful in New England. Let's roll 250 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: are you with me? 251 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: I am Chad, But historically it's not ideal to bet 252 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: rookies in their first start. But I think from your 253 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: perspective and my perspective is this is when we want 254 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: to fade this Houston tea. They're on the road. CJ 255 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: is a favorite, and not even just a short favorite. 256 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: He's a seven point favorite in this matchup without Nico 257 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: Collins and maybe without Joe Mixon once again, And like, 258 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: to me, that's the big deal here. The fear for 259 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: us is Newland's offensive line is terrible and they've had 260 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: some really serious injuries to that that you know that 261 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: should really benefit this Houston team attacking. But isn't this 262 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: the quarterback you want behind a bad offensive line? That Broussette, 263 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: who's a statue back there. You want Drake May who 264 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: can move and you know, to me, he's gonna be 265 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: a one or two read and pull the ball down 266 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: and run the ball, which is honestly what I want 267 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: with this team right now, New England. So I get 268 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: people's hesitation here. I looked in our contest before we 269 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: got on here. It is six and a half. That's 270 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: obviously a choice will have to make. I mean maybe 271 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: if we get lucky, it gets seven and a half 272 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: comes Sunday, if more money comes in on Houston. But 273 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna let that scare me off here. 274 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: I think you're right, like, we have to play this spot, 275 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: play this number. This isn't that terrible of a matchup 276 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: for this New England team. The only pause for me, 277 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: once again is just they lost a lot of guys 278 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: in the offensive line and that that should benefit this 279 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Houston team. But should they be a seven point favorite? 280 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think Chad thinks that either. 281 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: I think this is way too much respect for Houston 282 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: team that this season they're one and four against the spread, 283 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: like they're a team that the books have no they 284 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: can prop up and the public will come in heavy 285 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: on them and that's good for the book. So yeah, 286 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: I think we're getting an extra point and a half 287 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: of value here. Chet's I'll definitely take this number on 288 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: New England. 289 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Well, looks Simon, if you want to fade the public, 290 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: this is the game to do it, because about ninety 291 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: percent of the tickets are coming in on Houston. I 292 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: want to remind people underdogs of six plus points are 293 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: now eleven or eight straight up in sixteen to two 294 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: and one against the spread. Do you want to bet 295 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: a public bet against the public? Sorry, I just got 296 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: something in my eye. Bet against the public after a 297 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: bad game, you do sixty one percent against the spread 298 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: to the team that had just played terribly since two 299 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: thousand and five, that is the New England Patriots. I 300 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: agree with you. At first, I was a little bit 301 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: worried about Drake May being the starter but that offensive 302 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: because it feels like malpractice to put in that guy 303 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: behind that offensive line, which is terrible. But it's terrible 304 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: whether the guys are injured or not. And I agree 305 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: with you. What you're going to get from Drake May 306 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: is someone who's a really good athlete who's going to 307 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: be mobile and is going to move, so it actually 308 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: could counteract the pressure. Don't forget the Texans have the 309 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: best pressure rate of any defensive line in the NFL 310 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: and Dneil Hunter has the league best pressure rate of 311 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: any defensive lineman at twenty nine percent, So it doesn't 312 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: matter how bad this is, it might actually play to 313 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: their advantage. And you mentioned CJ. CJ on the road 314 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: this year is just a different player. His ypa yards 315 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: per attempt and his touchdown rate are both way way down, 316 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: and now they have no Nico Collins, who has been 317 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the league. And as you said, 318 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon he didn't practice yesterday, so again he's a veteran, 319 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: but he hasn't played in a few weeks. It's not 320 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: looking good for him to be at full strength on Thursday. 321 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: So I feel like this continues to be a good 322 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: spot and biggest luck rankings gap on the board twenty 323 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: five places, sixty two percent against the spread. Historically, go Pats, go. 324 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both of you, but we both know 325 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: going into this why we might not cover. It's just 326 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: because Drake May is a rookie mick in his first start, 327 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: and he could do some really stupid shit. You know, 328 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: a little Bernie told me this. This move didn't come 329 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: from the head coach or the coaching staff. This came 330 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: from ownership. After watching that Miami game where you know, 331 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: if it was Drake May, I think they probably would 332 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: have beat Miami in that game. Brissett just played so 333 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: bad that I think after watching they just go, we 334 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: have to make this change. Because I do agree with 335 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: most people saying that, well, their whole reason for nowt 336 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: starting was their offensive line. They didn't want to ruin them, 337 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: right because they had such a bad offensive line. Now 338 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: the offensive line is even worse now they're playing them. 339 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 2: And I just told people it's the ownership. I think 340 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: they're just sick of watching Brusett and they're just like, 341 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: you know what, we see three other rookies out there 342 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: playing really well, winning games. We have to see what 343 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: we have here in this kid. So I totally understand 344 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: why they're putting Drake in at this point. I know 345 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: the fans are like not really understanding what the move is. 346 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: I think it's just it's watching all these other guys 347 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: enjoy their new toys and you're just sitting there with 348 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: Brissette and you're just like, we can't just keep throwing 349 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: this guy out here. 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And on Tuesday, 365 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: we want to put a pin in this one and 366 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: see what the sharp calls might have to say or 367 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: how we felt after we dug in a little bit more. 368 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: And yesterday this line got up to one and a 369 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: half in the afternoon, and like, I didn't pull the 370 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: trigger because I kind of want to hear what you 371 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: had to say about it. But I spent twenty five 372 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: minutes on the game and I'd fallen I love with 373 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: the Titans, Oh geezs Home Dogs, and I was ready 374 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: to blow your mind with why we should do it. 375 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: And then late yesterday afternoon it had been Tennessee plus 376 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: one and a half flipped to minus one. Now it's 377 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: at minus two and a half. I don't know why. 378 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is Pittman. I don't know 379 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: if this is because they think Anthony Richardson might play 380 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Who's Yea better? But I was devastated because I felt 381 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: good about the Titans at plus one and a half. 382 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Anthony Richardson, And I would be pretty terrified 383 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: if I was a fan of the Colts and realization 384 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: that Anthony Richardon is worth three and a half points 385 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: less than Joe Flacco. That is rough, But that's what 386 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: it has to be like to me. There's no other 387 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: reason for that type of movement, especially where you know, 388 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: I talked to a book maker yesterday. It's all Colts 389 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: money right now. So like that was where I was 390 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: gonna come around and be on your Tennessee side of 391 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: It was just like, okay, this this is clearly a 392 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: trap being laid by the books. The professionals came in, 393 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: they hit this number, the books moved that with him. 394 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: It's still a lot of Colts money. So I don't know, Chef, 395 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: if this got to three three and a half. I'd 396 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: really be tempted to come back on the Colts just 397 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: because this Tennessee team and Will Levis is that bad. 398 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: You know, this Colts team as much you want to 399 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: knock Anthony Richardson that he's not as good as Joe Flackett, 400 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: which I agree with. You know, his style of play 401 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: in that offense, when they cater around him, it's it's 402 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: pretty damn good. Like he threw what the beginning of 403 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: the season, he was winning close, ugly games, and he 404 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: was keeping his team in these ugly games. So there 405 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: might be a little bit of overreaction too much. I mean, 406 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: at what point does the line move too much on 407 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: him coming in? That's what I'll wait on now, because 408 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm with Chad. I didn't understand this line when it opened. 409 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to be in the Colts. Tennessee was obviously 410 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: the right side. Now it's moved so much. I'll just wait. 411 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: Hope this gets the three and I'll throw a little 412 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: bit on the Colts here. But I'm happy this one 413 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: won't be in our because I can't imagine me letting 414 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: Chad talk to Chad talking me into taking Will Loves 415 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: as one of our five here. 416 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: And dude, my arguments were so good, Like, honest to god, 417 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon I was working on this. It's the game 418 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: I spent the most time on because all of a sudden, 419 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: I was doing the work and looking at the numbers 420 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: and seeing who was going to be playing, and thinking 421 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: about the bye week and thinking about when have the 422 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: cults done well? And why have they done well? And 423 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: what have the circumstances been, all those things that we 424 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: think about, and I'm like, Titans are the side, And 425 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: I was like, so in, I'm kind of glad I 426 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: didn't pull the trigger because now hearing you, I would 427 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: have been more nervous. But I definitely felt like I 428 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: was going to be able to convince you, like I'm 429 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: on the list. I made my preliminary list yesterday. They 430 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: were definitely like top six yesterday. The Titans to me 431 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: at plus at plus, you know, at a plus number. 432 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 2: But I read your stat your favorite stat about you know, 433 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: a team moving from a dog to a favorite on the. 434 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: Line seems to open his underdogs and close as a favorite. 435 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Historically struggle to cover that number seventy one and one 436 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: hundred against the spreads in twenty nineteen forty two. So 437 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: the flip side of this is now all of a 438 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: sudden that makes the Colts decide. 439 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's again the hesitation here. I mean, we'll 440 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: talk about there's a couple games this week with the 441 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: books are really taking up position on them, but this 442 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: is clearly one of them. Like if you look in 443 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: our app right now, it's still all Colts much. 444 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: All cult Yeah, so it's ridiculous. 445 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: Be careful out there, people. 446 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Like if there's something something fishy, something fishy, 447 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, something smell right, something to smell right. Arizona 448 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: green Bay, Green Bay still a five point favorite. I 449 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: am shocked that there is no conversation about this game 450 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: from professionals there. 451 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: But it's split. 452 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: It's like the line isn't really moving. Like everything I 453 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: said on Tuesday still to me is true today. It's 454 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of a funky line. The eye test makes me 455 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: lean Packers Cardinals just won their biggest game of the year. 456 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: Like the biggest difference is to me, the Cardinals are 457 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: a very public dog, and that makes me feel better 458 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: about the Packers right now. I don't have it up. 459 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: I lost the tab, but the public number on this 460 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: game real quickly I'm getting to it is, you know, 461 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the tickets are on the Cardinals, sixty 462 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: three percent of the money on the Cardinals. So it 463 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: feels like, at least from a public point of view, 464 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: they like the Cardinals, which makes me like the Packers 465 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: even more. 466 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the professional bits I talk to, it's split 467 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: where the trend betters people who just simply bet trends, 468 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: they love the Cardinals in this spot. A lot of 469 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: really good trends to this Cardinals team, and a lot 470 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: of good trends that fade Green Bay in this spot. 471 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: But a lot of the professionals I talk do they 472 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: like what we like here with Green Bay kind of 473 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: in a nice spot against the Cardinals team that you know, 474 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: we expect to have a letdown game. But yeah, after 475 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: reading Evans article, I got a little bit of pushback 476 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: on that Kyler is actually not as bad as you 477 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: think he would be in this spot. Historically, teams actually, 478 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: you know, beating divisional divisional games as a big underdog 479 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: actually performed pretty well on this spot going on the 480 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: road back to back weeks. But I don't know, Chad, 481 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: There's something I can't shake here where feels like we're 482 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: still getting value. And it's like, what, I still think 483 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: this number should be closer to six and a half seven. 484 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: I still like it. If you still like it, if 485 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: you want to put it in as one of our favorites, 486 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: I honestly wouldn't fight you on it. It's like I 487 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: bet this number, I bet Green Bay in this spot. 488 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: You know, to me, I get all the drama. They 489 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: have a wide receiver right now. They were still able 490 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: to figure out how to move the ball downfield last week, 491 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: and if that means getting more touches to their tight end, 492 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: Lafloor is happy to do that. Like this man just 493 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: knows how to game plan and just how to attack 494 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: defense's weaknesses. So you know where I stand with this 495 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: Arizona team. I think they do have a really exciting offense. 496 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: I just I just don't think they have the guys 497 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: on defense to get stops like they've just been so bad. 498 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: And if, like we talked about last week, the forty 499 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: nine ers gonna lose their kicker, that was a totally 500 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: different game. They looked like a totally different team in 501 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: that second half, where you know, we haven't really seen 502 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: that from multiple teams that have played Arizona. So yeah, 503 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: this is this is a tough one in your chat. 504 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: It's it is split. I'm trying to find an angle 505 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: on it. That really makes me love this Green Bay team. 506 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's just I just 507 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: like the number. And that's the toughest part here. 508 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: I know, I can't find I can't find the thing. 509 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: Well, I was hoping edyone would give me some good 510 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: news on his trends, but it was all it was 511 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: all Arizona, man. 512 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: It was all Arizona. And like, look, we go through 513 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: a checklist on these things, right. We look for the 514 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: home dogs. We look for games in which we think 515 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: the book is going to shade one side or the 516 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: other because of public perception of how a team played 517 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: the week before. The Bengals are a perfect example that 518 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: the car I mean, not the Bengal. The Bengals are 519 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: a perfect example. That the Commanders are a perfect example 520 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are a good example of that. But 521 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: then we're also looking at the matchups and we try 522 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: to glean like which side might have a true edge, 523 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: And then we're looking at the trends and like, nothing 524 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: says Packers other than to me, the eye test and 525 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: this team. There are some numbers nothing, but I mean 526 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: nothing overwhelming that says to me one side or the other, this. 527 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: Might make you feel better though the Cardinals have allowed 528 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: This is from our guy Evan. The Cardinals have allowed 529 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: opposing qbs to complete a combined seventy two point five 530 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: percent of their passes this season. They're allowing eight point 531 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 2: fourteen yards per attentph, the third highest ranked market in NFL. 532 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: Their pass defense is thirtieth and drop back per EPA 533 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: and thirty second in drop back success rate. So this 534 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: is really us saying, jordan Love, this is a bet 535 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: on you. Like yes, like this is really us betting 536 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: on him to really dominate this Cardinals defense that has 537 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: been atrocious against the pass. 538 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I think you just perfectly captured what I was trying 539 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: to say in numbers when I said this is an 540 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: eye test game. To me, we've been seeing Jordana Love 541 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: get a little bit better and he wasn't preferred against 542 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: the Rams, but he made the throws he needed to make. 543 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: Now we're three weeks back from the injury, we're back 544 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: at home against a defense that you know, if you 545 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: want to compare to the Vikings, who was his first 546 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: game back is one of the best defenses in the 547 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: NFL and one of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL, 548 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: and Brian Flores. He is not doing that this week 549 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, and the Cardinals' offense is turnover prone 550 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: against a very opportunistic Packers defense. So that's why. And 551 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: I think we are getting a little bit of a 552 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: benefit in the number. Will it be on a final five, 553 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, because we don't like to put too 554 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: many favorites in, and I do think we both feel 555 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: strongly about Detroit, but it certainly is in the mix. 556 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: For me, we still got to get a foxhole. We 557 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet. Tampa Bay at New Orleans. Look 558 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: to me, this was a pass. The only reason I 559 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: put it in is because now I feel like it's 560 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: the Saints or nothing like. This number has moved so 561 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: much because of the Derek Carr injury news. I'm actually 562 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: not that afraid of betting on Spencer Rattler at home 563 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: as a dog or betting against the Bucks. Yeah, you know, 564 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: on the road as now nearly four point favorites, like 565 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: it just feels like too much to me. 566 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: I know, I regret I'm making assignment, says guy. I 567 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: as soon as we got done the show, I always 568 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: just hammering that two and a half on that Bucks number, 569 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: and I told people I was gonna bet it, they 570 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: should bet it just in case Derek Carr was out. 571 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: But you're so right, Like now that it's three and 572 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: a half, I know we're supposed to take this kid 573 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: and this Saints team, but man, like, when you really 574 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: dive into it, like the Saints losing their center, I 575 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: didn't realize how big of a deal was going to 576 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: be for them. I think they're zero and three since 577 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: he's gone out. Yeah, like they just have not been 578 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: the same team since that offensive line got banged up. 579 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: And you know, say what you want about Derek Carr, 580 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: he's one of the best deep throwers of the ball 581 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: this season. Like he's been really good attacking deep downfield. 582 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: And that's what their offense is, right, the kind they 583 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: kind of burn you with the run and then they 584 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: hit you into play, actually go deep on you. I 585 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: don't know if I have faith in a rookie to 586 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: come in and run the style of offense. So yeah, 587 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: Chad's right, if you're out there and you want to 588 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: take the three and a half. I get it, but 589 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna dig in. I'm gonna take the Bucks here, 590 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: probably still at minus three and a half. I just 591 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: I keep thinking about them trying to run the ball 592 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: against Vita today, and it's just I don't know how 593 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 2: they establish a run with this Saints team. And you know, 594 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: say what you want about this Bucks team coming off 595 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: that loss to Atlanta. I feel like they're gonna be 596 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: desperate here. And that's really when we've seen the Bucks 597 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: be good when they're really not desperate but a little 598 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: bit right, like when they're not counted out. This is 599 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: when they're good. So Chad's right. Historically, I don't want 600 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: to back the Bucks here. We like them when they're 601 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: either a short favorite or a dog, neither of which 602 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: they are here. So I'm good with passing on this one. 603 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: But I get where you're coming from saying that it's 604 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: probably the spot to take New Orleans. I just I 605 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: can't get there. I just think they're a bad team 606 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: right now. 607 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised to hear you say that. This 608 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: feels so chalky of you. 609 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: Chalk wins, baby, not always, but certain spots. But yeah, 610 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I wanted to be on the Saints, 611 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: but I don't think the numbers moved enough for me 612 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: to take them. 613 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: God, that's fascinating. All right. 614 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: Did you watch Spencer Rattler. 615 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: I watched him in college. I actually there's a. 616 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: Reason he was whatever it was, a fifth round pick. 617 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 618 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Look, I mean I felt like I think back to 619 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: those that year when he was taking over at Oklahoma 620 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: and everyone thought he was win the Heisman. Yeah, and 621 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: within four games, Caleb Williams was on the field bringing 622 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: him back against Texas, and all of a sudden, you know, 623 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: he was eighteen months away from winning the Heisman himself 624 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: and then becoming probably will end up being the greatest 625 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: quarterback in the history of football, with the most excellent 626 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: franchise at developing quarterbacks in the history of football. So 627 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: I've always felt a little bit bad for Spencer Ratler, 628 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: and I watched a bunch of those South Carolina games, 629 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: and he can sling it, for sure, but he's got 630 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: a little bit of a Taylor Heineke vibe, right like, 631 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: he'll make these plays that will feel great. This is 632 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: what I'm projecting, and then he's going to lose that 633 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: game for us. If we had bet it. You know 634 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. Chargers at Denver, this one deserves some conversation. 635 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: I love this game for the Chargers on Tuesday. I 636 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: think you did too. From a ticket and money well. 637 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: Just because we don't understand the line. Yeah, I told 638 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: you I had this plane at one and a half. 639 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: It was three. I was like, there's something I'm clearly 640 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: missing here with this Chargers team. 641 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: Look, the Broncos are clearly the public dog. They're getting 642 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: about sixty percent of the tickets, and the line has 643 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: moved in their direction. It's gone for three to two 644 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: and a half, which I don't mind. I know that 645 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: taking the Chargers goes against the home division dog trend, 646 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: but there's also I think a sell high trend in 647 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers favor, the same one I mentioned with the Commanders. 648 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: These teams that have been covering by more than five 649 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: points per game historically covered a forty three percent rate. 650 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: So like, I like a lot of what I'm seeing 651 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: for the Chargers, I do worry where giving them a 652 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: little bit too much credit for Joe Alton Rashaun Slater 653 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: coming back. We still don't know what's happening with Bosa. 654 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: Denver's run game is actually better than the Chargers. We 655 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: like to think about the Chargers as a run team, 656 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: but their early down success as a run team has 657 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: been better against common opponents. Bo Nicks has been a 658 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: better quarterback than Justin Herbert this year. I know that's 659 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: hard to say, but I'm not as all in as 660 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: I was on Tuesday. 661 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: Well, just because of what we talked about. Like, I've 662 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: talked to a bunch of professionals and they like Denver 663 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 2: as well, and that's I'm with you on that where 664 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: it's like I want to be with you, guys, I 665 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: want to be on Denver. This feels like this is 666 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: their smart side, but you have the spidy senses like 667 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: I do. There's something off about this number, something very 668 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: telling that makes me want to take this Chargers team. 669 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: And you know, a couple of books moved them to 670 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: two and a half. I bet it. It's like, Okay, 671 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: now it's under three, I might as well take the 672 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: Chargers here. I thought it would keep going down. Now 673 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: most of these books are back up to three. So 674 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: it's a little telling, Like clearly there's professional money out 675 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: there that's driving this money. This number back up the three. 676 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 2: Now look at the matchup. I do want to give 677 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: a ton of credit to Joe Wall. Like this kid coming, 678 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: I knew he was going to be really good watching 679 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: his tape through the first three weeks before he got hurt. 680 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 2: He was really good. Like the way he handled Nex 681 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: Crosby as well without help was incredible. Like his one 682 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: on ones against him were so impressive for a first 683 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: year starter. To me, the what I think, what I 684 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: thought you thought on Tuesday is this offensive line can 685 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: neutralize the strength of Denver right now, which is their 686 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: front seven. Like that to me has been the difference 687 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: this season for den Is how good their front has 688 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: been playing. But you can counter that with a really 689 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: good offensive line and a great run blocking scheme, which 690 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: we believe the Chargers have here, Chad. So I do 691 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: think this is a nice you know, sell high in 692 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 2: the Denvers by low on this Chargers team, And if 693 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: it is minus two and a half, maybe I'll be 694 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: able to convince you. But I can see it's just 695 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: not one of your favorite bets, which I totally understand. 696 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is another favorite just like Green Bay. 697 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm dug in on here. 698 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: Wow, God, that's so fascinating. On Tuesday, on Tuesday, I 699 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: was so dug in on Green Bay and the Chargers, 700 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: and forty eight hours later, I'm wavering because we's been favorites. 701 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: We like ben dogs, that's who we are, right. 702 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: But on Twoda and on Tuesday you were sort of 703 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: not as dug in on idea because. 704 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: I didn't get this line at first. I was just like, 705 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: what are these guys? Seemed? But again, I've talked to 706 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: enough bookmakers professionals, and I see the reasoning behind it, 707 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: and sometimes again my model is just going to be wrong, 708 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: And that's what I was just. I was like, how's 709 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: my model so off on this one? How's it off 710 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: by point and a half? But yeah, my only hesitation 711 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: right now is still I don't really have concrete word 712 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 2: on what's going on with Herbert. And I've seen footage 713 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: him in practice and moving around. He looks all right, 714 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: but it's like it's practice, right, He's not really being pushed. 715 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: So that to me is the hesitation here where it's like, 716 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: would I much rather take Detroit than this number? Hell? Yeah, 717 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: Like I know exactly what Detroit is. I know even 718 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: if it's my three and a half, I have more 719 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: confidence than that than I do in the two and 720 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: a half Chargers here, So that's my hesitation. 721 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: Here is just the Herbert News interesting. All right, all right, well, 722 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about Detroit. Let's talk about Detroit at Dallas. 723 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about how this number got up to three 724 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: and a half. This was my exact decision, and I 725 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: do worry that I'm walking into it a little bit. 726 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: It's a road favorite. It's the public side. I did 727 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: bet at at three. I love it based on all 728 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: the matchups and the fundamentals, especially at the line of scrimmage. 729 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:10,479 Speaker 1: Every advanced metric you can think of, run block, win rate, 730 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: adjusted line yards, whatever crap the geeks are making up 731 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: these days, has the Lions O line top two, top 732 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: three in the NFL, if not first, And every one 733 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: of those metrics has the Cowboys run defense rated as 734 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: I think the technical term is trash. So the Lions 735 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: are a more violent team and football is violence. 736 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again the reasoning for the pros, like when 737 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: I was talking, guys, why do you like this Dallas side? 738 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's smart like they're saying. Dan 739 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 2: Campbell's an't predictable. This This team relies so much, so 740 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: much on their fourth down success rate. That's flukey game 741 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: to game, no way around it. Really, Ultimately that falls 742 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: on me. It's my fault. This Cowboys team is at 743 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: the lowest point. This is a good Bilo spot. I'm like, 744 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: they just won on a you know, a fourth and 745 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: four drive against Pittsburgh on Sunday night. So I just 746 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: disagree with a lot of it. And this is a 747 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: number that me and you might be totally wrong on. 748 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 2: We're missing something here, but you know all the historical 749 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: data that Detroit hasn't beat Cowboys in Dallas and forever 750 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: and all these different stuff. But it's like, I throw 751 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: it out exactly. I just told view it that way. 752 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: So I'm with Chad here, give me the best offensive 753 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: line that's great at run blocking against a suspect defensive 754 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: line that doesn't have their best run stopping defender. So 755 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: the only thing I can think here, we're gonna get 756 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: burned by a bad golf game because the last time 757 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 2: we saw him he was perfect. I think he was 758 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: eighteen for eighteen in their last win. You know, coming 759 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 2: off of bye week. Does that get in his head? 760 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 2: Does that get in the whole team's head? Right? Do 761 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: they come out sluggish in this game against a team 762 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 2: that technically this is a short rest week, right, they 763 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: were running away game on Sunday night, so they didn't 764 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: get home till what day morning to let their body 765 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: start healing. It's just everything lines up to love this 766 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: Detroit team. I do not get this line. So I'm 767 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: hoping this is just like Washington Cleveland last week chat, 768 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 2: where the books are dead fucking wrong hanging a three. 769 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: Even if this is minus three and a half in contest, 770 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 2: I feel like we're going to force this one in regardless. 771 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 4: It has been years since the Detroit crowd has been 772 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 4: this excited about. 773 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 2: The Lions talk about restoring the roar. Listen to him. 774 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: God, it's so interesting you say that because I don't 775 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: look at Jared Goff as potentially having a down game 776 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: was because he was perfect. I think he was perfect 777 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: within the context of the offense. It's not like he 778 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 1: was thirty five of thirty seven for five hundred yards 779 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: and six touchdowns because they were coming back right Like 780 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: he was eighteen of eighteen and played a brilliant game 781 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: working off of the game plan. And I think that, 782 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: to me is indicative of what the Lions have done 783 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: on what Ben Johnson has done, what Dan Campbell has 784 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: dictated be done as the head coach of that team 785 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: in terms of what their emphasis is going to be 786 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: and honoring the fact that they have the best offensive 787 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: line in football and they can control the line of 788 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: scrimmage and he wants to be physical. And it's similar 789 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,959 Speaker 1: to me, like the thinking about the Chargers. And that's 790 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: why both of these feel strange to me, Like why 791 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: are on other people seeing what I'm seeing? But I'm 792 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: glad you are. That makes me happy you and I 793 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: together like that. All right, So Detroit's in, I mean 794 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: Detroit's in. Yeah, Atlanta, Carolina, here we go. Jesus fucking 795 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: I hate everyone. I hate everyone associated with the Carolina 796 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: Panthers and bookmakers for posting this number. This number is 797 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: at six. I stole some stats. Actually Network has a 798 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: weekly passer play column, right, and this was a stat 799 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: in the passer play column this week. Atlanta's three wins 800 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: this season have come by combined nine points, and it's 801 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: possible the Falcons could have and should have lost all 802 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: of those games. Week two, game winning two minute drive 803 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: against the Eagles when the Eagles had a ninety seven 804 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: point six percent win probability with less than two minutes remaining. 805 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: Game three, a game winning fifty six yard field goal 806 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: after the Saints had an eighty four point five percent 807 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: win probability with forty one seconds left. Week five, over 808 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: time win against the Bucks when the Bucks had a 809 00:42:53,560 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: ninety three percent win probability with twenty two seconds left. 810 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 2: Seriously, Chad, let's hop in that foxhole. Give me the 811 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers plus six. You know me, regardless of what's 812 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 2: going on, I'm a foxhole guy. I commit to a team, 813 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 2: I commit to a city. I'm a foxhole guy. Now 814 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: I have a stat that might make you feel a 815 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 2: little better from our guy, Evan. All Right, Kirk Cousins 816 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 2: career after a straight up win, He's thirty one forty 817 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: three and two against the spread, so forty two percent 818 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 2: after a straight up win, the second worst mark of 819 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty four QB since two thousand and three, 820 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 2: ahead of only Jay Cutler. Now as a favorite of 821 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 2: four points or more in that spot, Kirk Cousins four 822 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: and fourteen against the spread, Like he just he's dog 823 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: shitting this spot historically, and we're getting an inflated line. 824 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 2: There's no one left, Chad, this is it me and 825 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 2: you are it. We're the only people left that are 826 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: still betting Carolina this week. And to me, this is 827 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: the exact spot we want to be in, Like Line 828 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: is going to struggle with is a team that defensively 829 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 2: has you know they can attack a young quarterback right 830 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: there's to me, their greatest strength right now is their 831 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: safety position. Like their safeties might be the best of 832 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: football at deceiving quarterbacks, giving them false reads, not letting 833 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: them get moved with the QB's eyes and something like 834 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 2: Amy Dolton can kind of neutralize that he's done and 835 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: seen at all, and you know this is historically a 836 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 2: nice matchup for him. Then you add in fact that 837 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: this is an outdoors game, which historically Kirk is better 838 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 2: indoors than he is outdoors. And you know the fact 839 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: that I'm looking at our action app right now, it's 840 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 2: less than eight percent of the bests, less than seven 841 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 2: percent of the money right now is on this Panthers team. 842 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: How do we not love this team to cover this game? 843 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 2: And just went straight up like, to me, this is 844 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: just everything about this game just screams upset and you 845 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: just read it though this Atlanta team has been incredibly 846 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 2: lucky and fortunate at the end of these games. And 847 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 2: even if we don't win this one outright, I feel 848 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: like we're going to cover it. Like it just feels 849 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 2: like either we're going to back door with Atlanta or 850 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 2: we'll get back door by Atlanta and we'll still cover 851 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: this six. So I love this number, the fact that 852 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 2: hasn't budged all week. You know, I was hoping for 853 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: a contest. This is gonna get up to six and 854 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: a half. I don't know if it's gonna get there. 855 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: We might stick five and a half, but I'm okay 856 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 2: with that. I just I love this spot for this 857 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: Carolina team. 858 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: Of the tickets on the Falcons. Like you said, we 859 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,479 Speaker 1: got a team coming off a bad game. We got 860 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: dogs of six plus points or more. We got division dogs. Historically, 861 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: this is the only side to play. Here's my challenge 862 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: to you. That's giving me a little pause, and it's 863 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: why I couldn't go full throttle on Tuesday. The Panthers 864 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: run blocking this season has been outstanding, right up there 865 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: with the with the Lions. This sort of amongst the 866 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 1: leave's best. They lost two offensive linemen on Sunday against 867 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: the Bears. That was huge for them. It changed the 868 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: scope of that game. And now we've got a team 869 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: that can't get any pressure from its defensive line and 870 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: a team that its only advantage was in run blocking, 871 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: and I don't think they'll be as good at run 872 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: blocking as they have been this season. I do worry 873 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: about their ability to move, and now I worry about 874 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: their ability to put any pressure on Kirk Cousins defensively, 875 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins with a clean plocket, clean pocket, it's 876 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: pretty great. So that's my biggest concern. Like everything you're 877 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: saying is right, but as a matchup, I worry that 878 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: the Panthers will not be able to execute. 879 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 2: No, it's a disagree with you. And they're one and 880 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: four against the spread and one and four this season. 881 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: They suck. This is a bad team, but this is 882 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 2: this is life beting bad teams. You're just playing the 883 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 2: numbers here. I know it's tough getting this foxhol Chad. 884 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: Are we seriously talking about the Panthers and the Patriots 885 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: And with a couple more games to go that are 886 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: so gross when we are having a dreadful season so far, 887 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: Like you gotta be freaking kidding me. 888 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 2: We're one five and zero week away from being five hundred. 889 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 2: We're not that bad. 890 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true, all right, Cincinnati at the New 891 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: York Giants. This was your Simon Says, and you were 892 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: spot on. It's definitely trending towards three. It's another home 893 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: underdog playing against a massive public favorite in the angles, 894 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 1: like I don't have the trends here, but I do. 895 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: Clearly the market believes you are. Simon says is accurate, 896 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: and we got to jump on the Giants. 897 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was really honestly, we talked about it. 898 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: I was just I really thought Neighbors be cleared by now, 899 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 2: and this will move by half a point because to me, 900 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: that's what neighbors. Neighbors is worth half a point to 901 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 2: a full point to the spread for this Giants team. 902 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 2: And right now I have a greade at two and 903 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 2: a half. That's with neighbors in this game. If Neighbors 904 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 2: doesn't play, I'll move this number back up to three. 905 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: But I'm still having half a point of a key 906 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 2: number in this matchup against I think we can both 907 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 2: agree on I Cincina defense, that's just fraudulent, Like they 908 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 2: they had to show up in that game, right, They 909 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 2: just had to show up for one or two downs, 910 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 2: and they could not do it against Lamar. And that's 911 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: what I can't shake here. Where I want to be 912 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 2: with Chad. I wanted to be on the Bengals because 913 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 2: I've seen invested in their futures and I'm just like this, 914 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 2: this is a perfect bounce back spot for them in 915 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 2: their primetime game after that brutal loss. But I just 916 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: think the Giants are too well coached and they've been 917 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 2: playing too well to just be rolled over here. And 918 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: you know, even though I thought this was going to 919 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 2: be more public, I thought more public money would come 920 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 2: on the Giants. Chad just said it like this is 921 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 2: all Bengals money. All the tickets are on the Bengals 922 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 2: as well. So I would take the three and a 923 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: half here and hold and just hope maybe that you know, 924 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 2: Neighbors gets cleared and that would give me even more 925 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: confidence here. But if there is no Neighbors, Dad, I 926 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to force us to put 927 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: this in as one of our five because it's just 928 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 2: to me that Seattle game that got a little lucky 929 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: to win that one without them, right, like a lot 930 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 2: of things broke their way that offensively, Seattle played terrible. 931 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 2: And you know, Daniel Jones had, my mind, the best 932 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 2: game I've seen him have since his first start ever 933 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 2: against the Bucks, which was like five six years ago. 934 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: So I love this Ghiints team. I love how their 935 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: defense matches up against this offense for the Cincinnati as well. 936 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, you can see I really like this spot 937 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 2: for this team. And yeah, it's all about the numbers. 938 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 2: If this was two and a half, I'd be happy 939 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: to play Cincinnati here, it's three and a half, I'm 940 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 2: gonna take the value and play the Giants here. 941 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: Well, look, as having is pointed out, this is the 942 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 1: first weekend where the spreads aren't so so tight, right. 943 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: We've got a few games that are six plus points 944 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: again the spread, But this has been an historically year 945 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: year for short numbers, and I think heading into the 946 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 1: week the average spread it was four point two points 947 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: per game. Those half points, just on a percentage increase, 948 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: mean more when the numbers are shorter, So I get it. 949 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little anxious about this one for the contest, 950 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: like you said, because the neighbors, we got a lot 951 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: of games we can we can throw in there. Last 952 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: game also disgusting Buffalo with the New York Jets. So 953 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: now we know it's not going to be Robert Sala. 954 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: He was fired Tuesday morning right before we came on 955 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: the air. We know that there's going to be a 956 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: new play caller. We know you want to bet on 957 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: the team that is the that is against the public 958 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: after a bad game the Jets. We know we want 959 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: to bet on home dogs. We know we wanted to 960 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: bet the dead cat bounce one of stuck his favorite trends, 961 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: which is betting on the team that has a brand 962 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: new coach. I'll be honest, this this is a massive 963 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: pros Joe's game. Like seventy seven percent of the tickets 964 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: on the bills. The money is split but trending in 965 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: favor of the Jets, like it'll get to fifty to 966 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: fifty pretty soon, So clearly it's a it's a professional game. 967 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: It was that two and a half. Has it moved 968 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: back to two? 969 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 2: No, it's still two and a half, so you can get. 970 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: Two and a half. I kind of like this better 971 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: than the Giants and the contest. To be honest, I 972 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: don't know how you. 973 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,479 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't I like the Giants better, but that's fair. 974 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: Uh just it's the Obviously, the matchup for this Jets 975 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 2: defense is great. They always play Josh Allen really well. 976 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 2: To me, it's all the injuries to this Bills team. 977 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 2: The Bills just have so many injuries to keep players. 978 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: You just see last week against Houston had changed their 979 00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 2: whole team, especially, you know this their offense is just 980 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what they are yet. And you know, 981 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 2: through five weeks, you know they that they had moments 982 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: where Josh Allen looked incredible, right like the MVP we 983 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: all know and love, and then you just see the 984 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 2: hits piling up and it's just like they're asking so 985 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 2: much of their superman to do, Like when does this 986 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 2: catch up to him? And this is not a matchup 987 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 2: where you want to all beyond Josh Allen's shoulders, right 988 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 2: this this Jets defense they tend to turn him over 989 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: and they play him really tough. I mean, even going 990 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 2: back to the last three years when Sala was there, 991 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 2: they played really well. I know he's gone now, but 992 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 2: the scheme's still the same. The guy who's stepping in 993 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 2: there is kind of like not his clone, but basically 994 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: the same kind of guy. So yeah, looking at this matchup, 995 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 2: already liked the number. Now you're mixing in what you 996 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 2: just said. They got rid of the head coach, they 997 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 2: made a change offensive coordinator. I think if this hasn't 998 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: let a fire under this Jets team's ass, then then 999 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 2: in their season is over. Like this has to be 1000 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 2: the everything game. They throw it all out there. So 1001 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 2: even talked about Josh Allen being banged up, right, that 1002 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 2: was another part of this. So we love, we love 1003 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: this number. We love this matchup. Our hardest thing is 1004 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 2: having to wait until Monday to know what our final 1005 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 2: five is, so that that's the only thing I might 1006 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 2: keep this out from being one of our five. 1007 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: But I know that's honestly, I know this sounds stupid, 1008 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: but I got to travel on Monday. I like, I 1009 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 1: really won't be able to settle in for the game, 1010 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: Like I don't like when I get I'm traveling to LA. 1011 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can be awake when I 1012 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: to watch the end of the game, Like I'm just 1013 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: it's like I don't know if my heart can take it. 1014 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 2: No, it's tough, but yeah, I love this one, and 1015 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 2: I think Chad does too, so uh this is probably 1016 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 2: why this guy end up got on money line round 1017 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 2: robin parlays. But uh yeah, we're literally betting on Josh 1018 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 2: Allen to lose three straight games, which I thought was 1019 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 2: scared than Evan. Nice Nice. Evan told us that actually 1020 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 2: happened last year, So don't be too scared off by 1021 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 2: betting Josh Allen to lose three straight. 1022 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: Games, turning good weekends into great weekends. It's time for 1023 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: the money line parlay. Well, listen, speaking of our money 1024 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: line parlay. Each week we give out a two team 1025 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: money line underdog parlay, and bet three six five boosts 1026 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: the odds and highlights it on their site all weekend 1027 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: under both game pages. And remember both games are eligible 1028 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 1: for bet three six five's early payout promo, where your 1029 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 1: money line pick gets marked as a win if they 1030 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: take a seventeen point lead even if they lose. So 1031 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: if you want to bet this, bettered at bet three 1032 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: six five and the boosted money line parlay is a 1033 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: better Panthers Jets, find the boost under either the Panthers 1034 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: or Jets game pages on bet three six five. Also 1035 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: a favorite contest reminder, Everyone's lowest weekly score in the 1036 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 1: contest has officially been dropped. The updated total scores are 1037 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: now on the leaderboard. We are officially in a race 1038 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,439 Speaker 1: for our forty thousand dollars first place prize. Good luck 1039 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: to everyone. All right, now we got to get into 1040 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: our money line underdog round Robin. 1041 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 4: There will come up Heayday, Halla lou Yo wanna pay Day. 1042 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 2: There will come. 1043 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,760 Speaker 4: Up Payday someday. Someday, there will come up payday. Halla 1044 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,959 Speaker 4: lou Yo wa Payday, tire, I will come up. 1045 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 2: Payday some day. 1046 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: Clearly we're gonna have the Panthers and the Jets. We 1047 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: should probably put in the Giants. 1048 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 2: Okay, do we go with a pick? Neither of us 1049 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 2: are on, but the public loves in Denver money line. 1050 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: Okay, oh man. 1051 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I really want to go against the Ravens, 1052 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 2: but Lamar just doesn't lose those games. But that's that's 1053 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 2: a nice value on Washington plus two thirty five. 1054 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're hesitating because I thought for sure you 1055 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: were going to put that in there. 1056 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 2: I would, but Evans trends scare the shit, am. He's 1057 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 2: only lost one game in his career, but again, it 1058 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 2: was to the NFC East. So maybe, yeah, maybe that's 1059 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 2: his scrypted nit NFC East. 1060 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: So now you're reaching deep into the bag of hope 1061 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: to try to pull out your favorite get. 1062 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 2: It's a tough week to find dog wins. Honestly, why 1063 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 2: don't we do the Colts? All right? 1064 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: Let's do the Colts? 1065 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? 1066 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: So the money line round robin that is gonna be Panthers, Jets, Giants, Broncos, Colts. Simon, 1067 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: you can score letting. 1068 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 2: Now are we skipping it again? 1069 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: No, no, it's in the script. I'm going in order now. First, 1070 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: I need your biggest bets. 1071 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 2: Who right now? My biggest bet it's our Detroit Chalk Giants, 1072 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 2: not Chalk Jets, New England, and probably gonna be Green Bay. 1073 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 2: I mean, like right now, my two biggest ones right 1074 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 2: now are the Cowboys, I mean the Lions and the Giants. 1075 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 2: But I can see me adding more to the other 1076 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 2: positions by Sunday. 1077 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: It's weird how those could be the exact five we 1078 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: end up putting in. 1079 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 2: It could be terrible for us, It's true. 1080 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: It's just like, if we were to look at it 1081 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: right now, I think it'd be hard to leave New 1082 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: England out it'd be hard to leave the Jets out unfortunately. 1083 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: Like we both feel really good about Detroit, you know. 1084 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And. 1085 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I convinced you on Green Bay and 1086 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: now you've convinced me. Two favorites and three underdogs, like 1087 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: very possible, that's where we end up landing. I'm not 1088 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,479 Speaker 1: in a rush to put anything in right now. 1089 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 2: Knows where we leave out. It's definitely gonna win. 1090 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So listen, Scoot Roulette, You're three and two this year. 1091 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: Somehow I'm on in five? What I think I do 1092 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: the math? Unless I did it wrong? Maybe, yeah, you won. 1093 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm almost positive you one week one with me? 1094 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: Oh I did all right? All right, great, I'm winning four, 1095 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: not you. But you get to choose, Scoot Roulette, because 1096 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: you are winning the season long contest. 1097 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 2: All right, I'll be a scumbag. I'll take your pick. 1098 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 2: I'll take De Troit minus three. 1099 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: You are a fucker that is ruthless. All right, you 1100 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. Yeah, at this point, I 1101 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: got nothing to lose. 1102 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:49,959 Speaker 2: It's true. 1103 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: Give me the Pats plus seven? 1104 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 2: Love it? 1105 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Yeah, Scot proud you know what 1106 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: he went as Scooch says when all hope is gone, 1107 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: all that's left is relief. It's true, and in scuotru 1108 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: led I've basically come to that Scooch isn't brought back 1109 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: from the old school. Pod Jesus those are. 1110 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 2: That's high praise, man, I love it. 1111 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: All right, we got our last word here with Evan Abrams, 1112 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,959 Speaker 1: the director of research. Tell us something that'll make us happy, Evan, 1113 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: the last word with Evan Abrams. We're finished talking. All right. 1114 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 3: Well, we're into bye season. So with bye season comes 1115 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 3: me just telling you why Simon's picks are going to 1116 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 3: hit this week. But let's aside from that, let's just 1117 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 3: go with the Lions first. So team's off of bye 1118 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 3: versus a team not, which is very easy. Last twenty years, 1119 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 3: those teams win fifty six point one percent of games. 1120 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 3: Awesome when they're road neutral favorites, that actually goes up 1121 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 3: to seventy percent on the money line. Now that also 1122 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 3: includes the Chargers this week, So a little bit of 1123 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 3: buye back there in terms of how you guys might feel. Okay, 1124 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 3: one more level it which I think actually Simon brought 1125 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: this up earlier when talking about the game. So Dallas 1126 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 3: had that comeback last week and during the fourth quarter 1127 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 3: losing and won outright as underdogs. When those teams are 1128 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: dogs again in their next game after that situation, exactly 1129 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 3: as I spoke, thirty one and seventy one straight up, 1130 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 3: thirty percent forty six fifty six against the spread, forty 1131 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 3: five percent last decade. Just tough to get over that 1132 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 3: and do it again. And then you're talking about short 1133 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 3: week as mentioned, so a few factors would tell you 1134 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 3: to take the Lions. Now, let's talk about the Giants 1135 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 3: and Bengals for a second. So I kind of wanted 1136 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 3: to focus on just Cincinnati in this spot. Lots of scoring, 1137 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 3: high totals, ISH volatility isn't a great thing for predictability 1138 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 3: and covering spread. So Cincinnati right now is the only 1139 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 3: team in the NFL scoring twenty eight plus and allowing 1140 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 3: twenty eight plus. Those teams through five games just thirty 1141 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 3: seven and forty eight against the spread forty three percent 1142 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 3: last twenty years. When they're away from home, that falls 1143 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 3: to forty percent against the spread. When those teams are 1144 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 3: under five hundred, that falls to thirty eight percent. So 1145 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 3: just a good spot for the Giants in that one. 1146 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 3: And then I'll end here this game really wasn't talked 1147 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 3: about a ton. You've got Chad's Bears, you've got the 1148 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 3: Jaguars too, pretty much live in London, so I kind 1149 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 3: of wanted to give a few numbers on that game. 1150 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 3: So Caleb Williams, by my data, will be the sixth 1151 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback to start an international game. They didn't wave 1152 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 3: and want any Oh and to five straight up. Oh 1153 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 3: and to five against the spread for the five lost 1154 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 3: by fourteen plus points. So a bit of a difficult 1155 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 3: spot in just a blanket term. Then you kind of 1156 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 3: look at Jacksonville's side. Peterson's four and one straight up 1157 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 3: on neutral sites, obviously winning the Super Bowl, but he's 1158 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 3: three and one with the Eagles and Jags overseas. Jags 1159 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 3: are actually themselves over five hundred straight up in ATS 1160 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 3: and international games, which I didn't think was actually the 1161 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 3: truth till I looked at it. Trevor Lawrence his fifth 1162 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 3: game overseas, He's three and one straight up at ATS 1163 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 3: against the number, He's actually scoring twenty two points per 1164 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 3: game in those games. I'll go one step further before 1165 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,120 Speaker 3: I get out of here. So this is Trevor and 1166 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 3: Doug's fifth international game. It's only Caleb Beniberflus's first. Those 1167 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 3: coaches with two plus game experiences in that international game 1168 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 3: four and one straight up, when the QB also has 1169 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 3: a two plus experience, they're two and oh straight up. 1170 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 3: Very small samples, but probably just tells you what you 1171 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 3: would know anyway, which is experiencing these short week, weird 1172 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 3: overseas when you go games kind of matters. 1173 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: That means it's gonna be hard to bet the Bears 1174 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: this week. 1175 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we were saying. 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