WEBVTT - Home for the Holidays

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, So we are so excited to wind down today. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a great show. We have a great show,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have the whole family in here. We on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>We came in on a Sunday, so we had recorded

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<v Speaker 1>the show when it was a Babe last last Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>or Friday. Yeah, it was last Friday, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>posted a photo on my Instagram feed and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a cute photo of us being like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>back to work and matching in our Jeane jackets. And

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, no, it wasn't actually all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, we go home and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unfortunately I look at my comments and sometimes people

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<v Speaker 1>can be really mean, and usually I ignore it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was so and I remember I came to you

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<v Speaker 1>and I go because you said what's wrong? And I

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<v Speaker 1>looked kind of sad and said, people are body shaming

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<v Speaker 1>me on my Instagram. That photo, he's like, which thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, the photo of us back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like and and so I started to get

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<v Speaker 1>really upset because I was reading this comment, especially from

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<v Speaker 1>this one lady. I'm not going to mention her name,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to give any more attention than

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<v Speaker 1>she's already gotten. But she basically was saying a few things. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at that. I that I had a tummy talk.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, that's what happens when you're a celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>and you could have a tummy talk. Um. What else

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<v Speaker 1>did she say? Well, that's what happens when you have

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<v Speaker 1>fortunes and you could have a private chef. Um that

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<v Speaker 1>I faked my pregnancy that Um what else that was?

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<v Speaker 1>That was too thin? Because you have money, you can

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<v Speaker 1>afford a trainer. Yeah, I can afford a trainer every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. Um. And that basically I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>too small post baby, and I was like, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>body shame for being too small. It's like if I

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<v Speaker 1>would have posted so anyways, Then after that, I started

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<v Speaker 1>to defend myself in the comments, and so I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to defend ourselves on this this platform. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and you did. You did a great job in expressing

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in your post following well, and I had I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to post a photo of the full image, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that I didn't. I mean, I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up showing a photo in my stories of the full

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<v Speaker 1>image because you know, my my girlfriend Sarah Bryce was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's start a movement, whether it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>postpartum is beautiful, whether you recover fast or you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't recover as fast. And so I but

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<v Speaker 1>I cropped the photo at first because it's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get shamed for being too small, too big. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody's bodies are different. Why am I getting shamed

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<v Speaker 1>for for bouncing back quicker? You know? I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think the most infuriating part of all of that is, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if people want to comment about someone else's body whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>people are always going to do that. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she wants to stereo type and jump to conclusions

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a private chef, you work with a

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<v Speaker 1>trainer every day, you had a tummy tuck, and all

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<v Speaker 1>these outrageous things. Yeah, you have a chef. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is your husband. Me. When I'm not cooking, you're cooking,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's Postmates or yeah, or we're fortunate to get

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Fresh every now and then. But we cook and

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<v Speaker 1>you work out with the trainer, yes, when you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing too. I was like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>started to think back on how many times actually worked

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<v Speaker 1>out with Aaron. It was maybe once a week maybe. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is too, it's like, because you took

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself during your pregnancy, you didn't just sit

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<v Speaker 1>on your ass and just you know, feel sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or anything. And some people during their pregnancy they

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<v Speaker 1>can't physically do anything, and that's okay, but you had

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<v Speaker 1>the energy you had, you have the determination to get

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<v Speaker 1>up and do something, and you want to bounce back

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<v Speaker 1>quick afterwards. That's why you work your ass off, You

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<v Speaker 1>eat great, you work out and all that stuff during

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<v Speaker 1>your pregnancy, and you reap the benefits afterwards. Again not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that everyone has to do that, because some people

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<v Speaker 1>physically can't. Just like you in the first trime, master

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<v Speaker 1>you physically bear, they could get out of bed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's our baby. So yeah, there is a family

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<v Speaker 1>affair in here today because we're all upset about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and just leave my wife alone, leave people alone. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even about like sitting on your butt, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, Mama Training always said, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have an excuse to be able to eat whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want because you're gonna get big. But with this pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>I ate so much different than Jolie. With Jolie, I

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<v Speaker 1>had pasta and and and um potatoes because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I craved. I didn't crave any of that when I

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<v Speaker 1>was pregnant with Jayce. All I wanted was salads. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's you're just getting shamed for working hard,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so ridiculous, Which is just the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>about people on on social media and all that they

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<v Speaker 1>want to hate on people and everything. Guess what, I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee people that hate on other people aren't successful in

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<v Speaker 1>their life and they wait for things to come to

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<v Speaker 1>them when hard work is how you get things done,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be successful in your career and your personal life,

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<v Speaker 1>with your body, whatever it is. You're getting really heated round. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to defend you, because this is it's

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<v Speaker 1>bs that someone attacks you like that when they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know at all how hard you work every single day

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<v Speaker 1>and how hard you did work during your pregnancy. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's unbelievable that people have the audacity to say these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things. I know, Jolie, I agree with you, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's crazy. You know. It infuriates me though, is

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<v Speaker 1>that people think we're just like loaded for first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>there it's like if I, first of all, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough money to get a tummy talk, even if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tummy. I'm not saying we're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're you know, we're we're we're comfortable, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>che and we're comfortable. Yeah, but we also don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what next year is gonna hold. You know, nothing in

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<v Speaker 1>our businesses is guaranteed. I don't know if I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to ever book a movie again, our TV show, or

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<v Speaker 1>if if my music you know, people will buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's this podcast is gonna I don't. We don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to really we can't do extravagant things

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<v Speaker 1>and people think even sweet are are you know Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>who helps with Jolie, she was. I laughed at the

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<v Speaker 1>comments about the personal shop. People think that you have

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<v Speaker 1>all this money, and it's like it's again, it's another

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<v Speaker 1>stereotype where you know, when I was playing in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>people just that don't know, automatically think you have millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars. We're living in a square foot house right

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<v Speaker 1>now in Los Angeles. It's not it doesn't look like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like just because you're an entertainment and I would play football,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're doing this. It's like, doesn't mean just

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<v Speaker 1>money just falls off the trees. Remember that, everybody else?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that one comment we got on Instagram, They go, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>your house is so dot dot dot normal. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it supposed to look? Yeah? Again, people have

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<v Speaker 1>these perceptions. Not granted, we go back to Nashville, our

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<v Speaker 1>house will be a lot. Well, it's because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville and but again it's more affordable there. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we're moving to Nashville's because we can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford a house that we need in l A. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we're moving. We don't have the money to

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<v Speaker 1>have a personal shop. It's so ridiculous that people just

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<v Speaker 1>jumped to these conclusions. And it's just like why, Like, again,

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<v Speaker 1>haters are gonna hate, They're gonna say the things, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time it is because they're miserable in

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<v Speaker 1>their life. Come your honey, Joey is having a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>I just that's okay, honey, we're all upset. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wish that women would support each other's bodies. Oh geez, Louis,

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<v Speaker 1>can you headphones? You want your headphones? You want? You

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<v Speaker 1>want your headphones? Okay? You want to tissue? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to starburst? That'll keep her quiet? You want your candy? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you want I'm doing you a game. I just wish

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<v Speaker 1>that women would support each other and not body shame,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're too thin, too big, too whatever, or it's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been you look this way ten months postpartum or

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<v Speaker 1>one week postpartum, how dare you look too good? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Katherine, she goes, how dare you look too

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<v Speaker 1>thin after giving a birth? How dare you look too

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<v Speaker 1>fat after giving birth? It's like you can't win, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. And it's just it's unfortunately, it's just women

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<v Speaker 1>that shame like that, that body shame. You don't think

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<v Speaker 1>guys do not each other? No, you don't think so

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Guys don't body shame each other. And why

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<v Speaker 1>is that? I don't think the how a man's physical appearance. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>for women, it's there's more of a pedestal on how

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are supposed to look, where men there's not.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a stigma like there is for women. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's just generations and generations of how society has been

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<v Speaker 1>and perceived men versus women. So men don't body shame

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<v Speaker 1>each other. I really don't. I sometimes have body envy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I look at you know, Lauren Bush now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, God, you're so thin and you're so fit.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I looked like that. But then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>can I give myself a little grace? I just had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, even though I look in the mirror and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, this is not how I look before

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. So it's so I get depressed. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my hormones going through my body, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>what I just went through is a beautiful thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a mother of two. My body is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>most likely look like that, and right, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always kind of had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a pooch in my opinion, and so but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm but I'm just saying, like it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have sometimes have body envy, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>never shame someone for looking a certain way, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's really sad that women do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just really hope that women can just have grace

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself. You're not going to look the same as

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, and that's what makes us beautiful and different

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<v Speaker 1>in our own personal ways. Absolutely, and that's okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people are seeing to calm the ft down Onto wind Down,

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<v Speaker 1>wind Down with j Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're out of the house. I mean, I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>so relieved sitting in the studio again. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it's been an eternity since we've been in here, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>And it just feels so nice to just like this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I put on some makeup, I put some clothes on,

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<v Speaker 1>I put on deodorant, I got out, I breathed. How

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<v Speaker 1>did I say that, I breathed in the fresh air. No?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that it works? Breathe breathed. It doesn't sound right,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound right at all. I breathed in the fresh air,

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<v Speaker 1>breathed in fresh air. No, but it was so like

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was skipping out of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Not but I obviously I am so sad to leave

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Jolly home. But at the same time, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't left the house in a week. Yeah. Well

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<v Speaker 1>actually and was just to run out and get something

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, but were out of the house. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been out of the house, yeah, because I've had to

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<v Speaker 1>take joulders because I was recovering for my c section, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I just have to say, it barely

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<v Speaker 1>looks like you're pregnant, Like you're ever pregnant. The studio's

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<v Speaker 1>ghost down today. But I was counting on a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people saying that to you, because that's what everyone

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<v Speaker 1>we say. It's like, I can't believe you just had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. Oh my gosh, Well I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a baby, and my stomach still feels incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>cut up, like I just had a baby. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>look amazing. Thanks by um. I just have to say

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to every single one of the wine Down

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<v Speaker 1>listeners for being so incredibly supportive about our last podcast

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<v Speaker 1>episode when we well, I've recorded the birth of Jace. I,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael and I were listening to it in bed that

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<v Speaker 1>day and I made you turn it off. You're embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>I started crying. I was so embarrassed. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that we were obviously doing a live podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know that we were keeping everything in Easton.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you were keeping in me like vomiting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was vomiting on the table that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>visceral stuff. I like, was there, right, But then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was going no, no, no, no, Jane, Jane, Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>No no No, I'm like, oh my god, I'm so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how many people probably feel so much more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable now with their experience or going into their experience

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<v Speaker 1>because they know someone like you has been so open

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<v Speaker 1>and vocal and vulnerable about all this. Knowing that stars

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like no. But I literally made Michael turn

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<v Speaker 1>it off. I started bawling my eyes out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm so embarrassed. Everyone's gonna think I'm crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just have to say I have just been

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<v Speaker 1>blown away by the support, and selfishly, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>as crazy now because a lot of other moms had

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<v Speaker 1>the same issue as friends of yours that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even you didn't even know how to kind of experiences. Yeah, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I didn't feel anything up to my

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<v Speaker 1>throat or I was puking too, And I'm like, really, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I again, I just said like ten times, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stop that. But I just I'm so grateful

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<v Speaker 1>and I just can't thank you guys enough for making

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<v Speaker 1>me feel a little less crazy and making me feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't look at that. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be embarrassed. I'm not going to listen to it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to finish those things to it. But because

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it very vividly, I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to relive it. Yeah, I know. So I'm not thinking

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of you. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are proud of you. And I mean that takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of ways, a lot of lady

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<v Speaker 1>balls to put yourself out there like that. So you

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<v Speaker 1>did amazing. Can we just say, real fast though, how

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<v Speaker 1>it was my idea to do the sweet messages to

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<v Speaker 1>each other? Yeah, let's talk about this. Well, no, because

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like so it was my idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, babe, I think we should I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should say like sweet notes to each other, like

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<v Speaker 1>right before. But when we separate and I go into

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<v Speaker 1>the operating room, we leave a message for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Michael gets all the credit because he left

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<v Speaker 1>me the sweetest voice memo and I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>that I was when we separated, that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>straight into the O R room. So I just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say face right now and say that it was

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<v Speaker 1>her idea because I was just extremely thoughtful and super sweet. Crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try. I don't just do my bunder here, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, I don't care. It makes me look better.

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<v Speaker 1>Right before the episode, before we listened to it, I

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<v Speaker 1>go obey. By the way, I didn't have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, thank you to Michael for being

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll do it right now. Michael, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say thank you so much for being the fast

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<v Speaker 1>nine months. You've been incredible and I'm so proud of

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<v Speaker 1>you and i just can't wait to have this baby boy.

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<v Speaker 1>There go, thanks so powerful. Yeah, so um that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I just can't thank you guys enough. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel as crazy, and I'm just really glad that,

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<v Speaker 1>um we did that. I am glad we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also glad that we have Amazon Fire TV, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've been inside all the time. Yeah. And with

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<v Speaker 1>watching we can watch movies, TV, YouTube, I mean anything

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<v Speaker 1>we want from Netflix to Prime Video, Hulu. I mean, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>you can even stay up while you have Ja's for

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<v Speaker 1>the nighttime feeding and you can do you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>a makeup tutorial. I'll pass on that, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>catching up on my shows on Netflix while I'm up

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<v Speaker 1>with our child. But it's so great though, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's easy as saying, hey, Alexa, open YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's incredible. Um, head to Amazon dot com slash

0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.440
<v Speaker 1>wind down again. That's Amazon dot Com slash wind down

0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to order a fire TV of your very owned and

0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.440
<v Speaker 1>they make really great gifts too for the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, yeah, maybe for your brother. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the work. So we have two really really great guests today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited because one was the original Power Ranger,

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<v Speaker 1>which you kind of wanna. That was in our notes

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<v Speaker 1>that she was the original Power Ranger. But you you

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<v Speaker 1>you're calling not she was on Power Rangers like Lost Galaxy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome Nerds like you guys are the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>nerds ever, Like, that's not the original Power Ranger. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, if you're going to use the word original, original,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, but she's original, She's still a Power Ranger.

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<v Speaker 1>You want her to show you the moves. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know how she did them all? Did she do

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<v Speaker 1>her own stunts? Yeah? How much martial arts? Did she learn.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have no idea. Hey, do we want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that. We've had your parents in town

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<v Speaker 1>for the last week. I'm sure it's been awesome. It

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been able to sleep. It's so funny though, how

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<v Speaker 1>some people want guests after babies and some people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, there, Yeah, it's two different mentalities. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious how people handle because sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in laws can be overbearing, parents can be overbearing in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's been great though. They've been really good,

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<v Speaker 1>are very helpful. Yeah, it's so much so that now

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, my mom's gone, my dad already left, my

0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.439
<v Speaker 1>mom's gone, and now it's like, wait, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a third person to help pop out, Like what do

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<v Speaker 1>we do now? What's the best thing about having jays

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<v Speaker 1>a son? Right now? Oh? Man? I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this numerous times to you and to other

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<v Speaker 1>people that have asked me. I feel like there's something

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<v Speaker 1>to be said for when you have a child that

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<v Speaker 1>is the same sex as you. There's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more initial connection, there's you know, there's I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit more responsibility. So I think just

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<v Speaker 1>like I told you the other night when you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't I come get you in the middle of night,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I even though he was like

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<v Speaker 1>five days old, I felt like we were bonding, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just super cool to have that feeling already,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone when he can actually interact with me and

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<v Speaker 1>do those things. So I don't know, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just cool. It's just feeling said I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have with Jolie. Not to take away from Jolie, because

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<v Speaker 1>I love her just as much, but it's just there's

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<v Speaker 1>something about it. Yeah. I told Michael in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just sitting in the hospital bed and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Michael holding Jason. I said, not taking anything away

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<v Speaker 1>from Jolie, you were great, But I said, but you

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<v Speaker 1>are so much different with this, with this birth. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I I think some of it's because you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a better place and you're healthier, but I also think

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<v Speaker 1>you just have, like you said, that connection, not that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have the connection with Jolie, but you're just

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<v Speaker 1>so much more present and that helps you better with

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the connection. Yeah, there's no question. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know what percentages what how much

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<v Speaker 1>of it is just my mental health and where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at now and my life is a way better than

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<v Speaker 1>where it was when Jolie was born, fortunately and unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>Um but so I think it's it's a mix of too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'm I'm in a better place now and also

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<v Speaker 1>because he's my little boy and there's just an immediate

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<v Speaker 1>connection as opposed to Jolie, where it's like, yes there's

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<v Speaker 1>a connection, but it's my daughter as opposed to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not saying putting one above the other

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<v Speaker 1>at all, And it's just I think anyone who has

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<v Speaker 1>multiple children and of different sexes, I think they can

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<v Speaker 1>probably relate. It's funny. I want to talk to the

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<v Speaker 1>We have a therapist calling into Dr Dale Saltz. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm curious to see if i'd like, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about the postpartum depression and and

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<v Speaker 1>what's kind of normal and then what's just like your

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<v Speaker 1>hormones balancing back, because even just after the after the birth,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously I've been crying at the randomest things,

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<v Speaker 1>like you cut that lemon perfectly, Like I mean crying

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<v Speaker 1>from that too, you know, am I depressed it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do I feel depressed? Do I have this the same connection?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think, you know, I had obviously such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge connection with with Jolie, and then when I had Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>again not saying I didn't have that connection, but it

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 1>was just from surgery and all the medicines. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you start to compare, like, is this the exact same

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<v Speaker 1>how I felt with Jolie? Oh my gosh, is it less?

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, do I not have a connection? And you

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>start to freak yourself out that you're it's just so different,

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's it's amazing how our hearts have

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.639
<v Speaker 1>grown in the Yeah, that's funny too. How literally the

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<v Speaker 1>night before we're looking at Julie Wick. How can we

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>love another human being as much as Jolie? And immediately

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.199
<v Speaker 1>as James comes out your heart, you know, it's like

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the Grinch like gets sometimes big, Like in a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of a second, he's so perfect love and already we

0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.120
<v Speaker 1>love him in so much, but in a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, he's our little boy. He's so handsome, he's

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<v Speaker 1>so handsome. He might be cuter than Jolie he was.

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just putting that out there. I think he might

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<v Speaker 1>be a cuter baby then Jolie, which is crazy to think.

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you didn't say that. Jolie is like perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>she is, he's handsome. I don't know what to do

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.679
<v Speaker 1>with his peep though. It's like the balls and the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having to wipe around the ball like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Like you guys have to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta wipe your balls like that. I mean, as

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a grown man, I'm not pooping in a diaper soop

0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 1>to get all over my balls. But yeah, and you

0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 1>gotta be careful. You can't, you know, you gotta. I

0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do with it. It's just so

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<v Speaker 1>like flimsy and just the balls yet no grow he's

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 1>had him. He's had a boner, Yeah, a little baby browner.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop yeah already, No, that's disgusting. You can you can

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.320
<v Speaker 1>barely tell because it's like whatever, you just you can

0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>do all the diaper changes because I know how to

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>deal with the vagina, so I had to learn the

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 1>vagina and wiping. Gotta wipe down, not up, and all

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.679
<v Speaker 1>this other stuff and gotta get in there and they

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 1>gotta get in there. Yeah, I've done that. You can

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>do that with a ball sack. It's just weird, you know.

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's also been really helpful though, during all this Hell

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of Fresh coming to our rescue. Oh my god, how

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 1>many nights did my parents and us were like what

0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:58.200
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna have for dinner? And we're like, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>we have another Hell of Fresh meal. Serious, It's saved

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<v Speaker 1>our life. It's been fantastic. I mean especially for me

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 1>because I don't cook right so this inspires you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more to maybe cook because it's right there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only thirty minutes. Everything comes perfectly measured. And after

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<v Speaker 1>this past week of using Hello Fresh, my favorite meal

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<v Speaker 1>right now is the Truffle whereby steak with seasoned potato

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<v Speaker 1>wedges and wrist of green bes. And I'm a stickler

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to my steak and getting a piece

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of meat this was and how good it tasted.

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<v Speaker 1>new Hello Fresh slogan. You're just do mean just there o. Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're building our house right now in Nashville, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's looking good. We're so excited. It's I mean, we

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 1>cannot wait. They're they're framing the second floor right now

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, we're gonna have Serena Vincent, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>former Yellow Power Ranger and also is pregnant and doing

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<v Speaker 1>ten weeks. That's crazy. I can't wait to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I tell her all about the horror stories

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<v Speaker 1>about how amazing it is. Hey Dr Gail, Hi, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing good? How are you good? Good? We're

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>so happy to have you on the phone with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're happy to be with you. Um. So, Michael and

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I just had a baby. We now have um we

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 1>now have two beautiful kids plural. Yeah, so we're dealing

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>with that right now. Anxiety, pressure, stresses, expectations, you know,

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole nine yards yeah, Well, having a newborn is

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>stressful in many ways. Even even joyous things can be

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>highly anxiety producing. Question um, especially with the lack of sleep.

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Something happened the other day where I wanted to express

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>my feelings and Michael I didn't think that I needed

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.199
<v Speaker 1>to express my feelings. He goes, this isn't and express

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 1>your feelings conversation, and I was like, excuse me, Like

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 1>are you saying my feelings don't matter? He's like, you

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>don't need to express them, and I'm like, I have

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to express my feelings. I was like, I'm hormonal, and

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I just say what I'm gonna say. But it's because,

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was He's tired, and he's like, do

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>we really have to have this conversation? Like, I know

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna say, but I needed to get it out,

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and I know I was sleep deprived to I mean,

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you navigate being sleep deprived,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>being hormonal, having two kids, one screaming and then one sick. Well, well,

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>let me just say that, you know you you are

0:25:55.280 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 1>very recent so the first you know having um. You know,

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's called baby blues, but baby blues doesn't just

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>mean blues that means like labile boes like up and

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>down or irritable or anxious. Um are is is a

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>real phenomenon that's exceedingly common. I'm not talking about postpartum depression,

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>which is also one out of ten women, but much

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>more common is this emotional ability and anxiety and moodiness

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and and teeriness. That's the real thing. Um, and it

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>is hormonally mediated. And um, you know, I think just

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>knowing that you knowing that, like you knowing that is

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>helpful because it's it's not such a it's not something

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you necessarily have so much control over. Um. Yeah, I

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 1>mean I don't even feel like I have control over

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like why, I'm like, I feel out of my body.

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>It's some of these you don't because you don't have

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>so much control over it. That being said, um, there

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>are there are things to do to help yourself a

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit in the moment. Um. Definitely having a little

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>bit of scooped out time for anything that can be

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>relaxing to you sometimes believe it or not, that's a

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit of exercise which actually helps regulate your mood. Um.

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>What whatever you're able to do, VISA, be your doctor,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever they say is it's okay to be doing.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But something a little even a walk, um, can be helpful.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Listening to some relaxing music for a little while or

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>watching a show that you enjoy, something where you get

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like snippets of a little bit of relaxation time is

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. Um. And being able to talk about

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>your feelings is is a useful thing. It definitely can

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>make you feel better, even if in the moment apparently

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not making life feel better. You know, understanding that

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>actually that is helpful. It's helpful to her, and in

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>the long run, let's be real, it's helpful to her,

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>it's helpful to you as as we like to stay

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>around around my home. If the mom is not content though, no,

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>but you con so you know, so sore, there is

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>something to that. Sleep is important um, and it is

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>hard to get for both of you, and sleep depervation

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 1>for either one of you. But even if you're not mormonal, Mike, um,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>sleep depervation definitely increases irritability and anger and UM and

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and stress and depression ultimately, UM, So it is important

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to if you have to take turns um catching up

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>on sleep to allow the other one to do that

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>if you if you need to get some outside support

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>so you can get some sleep, whether that's a nap

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>or you know, being able to sleep you know, in

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, or have one time where you aren't

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>getting up for beating, etcetera. Um, that's that's really that

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is really important. Um And frankly, others think pretty much

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>everything else doesn't matter as much of pretty much. You know,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>how lovely you look, how well grews you are. I'm

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about this first month. You know, how how much

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you you do things with other people, you know, those things, um,

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you know will will kind of fall by the wayside

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>as well. Sadly, like, um, you know a lot of

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>sexual stuff falled by the wayside in the first month

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>because it is so it's physically taxing and it's hormonally taxing.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's funny too. I I think I didn't

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>really mentally prepare prepare myself for the aftermath because all

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, the previous nine ten the previous nine ten months.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's in my head, it's like, Okay, be patient,

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>she's pregnant, she's doing this, And I feel like maybe

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>as soon as the baby was out, I was like

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, well you're not prey anymore, Like let's do

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like what you're good like back to like teamwork, Like

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it sounds bad, but you have two legs at work,

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>like let let's let's do I'm not saying about extreme,

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>but maybe a little bit where like okay, let's do

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>this teamwork. But so I I will call myself out

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and I can reassessmentally. You know, it's really common when

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you're how old is your daughter? She she'll be three

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in January, so you know, you it's it's three years, Like,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.959
<v Speaker 1>it's really easy to forget what it was like that

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>first month. And that's that's mother nature's way, that's our

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>brain's way defensively of a not of allowing our species

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to continue on, because if you could remember every single

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>one of these things as vividly as they are in

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the moment, you would not have more kids. So actually

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it's actually really important that to some degree what we

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>we painted with rose colored glasses and and you know,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>retrospectively and so actually you probably don't remember, but it

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>probably was like this the first go round. This is

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>harder because now you have three year old also, and

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>so you're it's not like you can hand one, you know,

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the baby to one and the others off. You know,

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you you're sort of double teaming, and that's that is harder,

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>more stusful. And you've got to deal with your daughter's

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>feelings about having this new interloper you know, in your lives,

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>um and and so it's understandable, but you didn't remember,

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's wishful thinking and understandably had to that it

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>would just go back to the way it was before

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>she got pregnant. But but it really isn't like that

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty much for anyone, even if you have supports, but

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>makes use of support. This is where grandparents can make

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a big difference, um of taking a three year old

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>or even taking a baby for a little while um

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>or you know, if if you could afford some some

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>extra health, that's obviously a big, big plus UM. But

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>being able to have someone an extra pair of hands

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and and may even even more like a mind, an

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>extra mind in there that can offload you in the beginning, UM,

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>so you can sort of at least physically physiologically recover

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>for sure. You know, now that we're growing our family,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>doctor Gale, you know, something that will come up as

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>we continue as the family grows and so on and

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>so forth. Is obviously this time of year holiday stresses, right,

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>debating where are you gonna go for Thanksgiving? What are

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>we gonna do for Christmas? Where our families growing? We

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>want to start our own tradition, how do like, what's

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the best way to navigate navigate those things? When you

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>want to start you own traditions, but at the same time,

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to be with the rest of your family,

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 1>like you know right, well, um, you know I I

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>would say you're going to make compromise. And I mean

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the word compromise is really the name of the game

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>for just about everything. Right, your three year olds not

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>going to get as much as they got before. That's

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be your compromise. You know, the baby doesn't

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>get to be first born, that's they're compromised. You guys

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to do lots of compromising. And the

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>same is true here for when you start thinking about

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>how do you build your family unit with the traditions

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to want to have, and at the

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>same time, you know not well, part of the traditions

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they're probably going to include other relatives. The problem is

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>is our family doesn't you know, my families in Michigan

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and his families in Virginia, and you know, I have

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>a very strong opinion about Christmas, about you know, starting

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>our own tradition, and so you know Michael does too,

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>but he also is like, Okay, well, you know, we

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>need to go home sometime. But I'm like, but I

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I never got to have that. Yes, I

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>woke up in my my home, you know, for Christmas,

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>but then I was pulled every which way because my

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>parents were divorced. And it's like, I just want my

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>kids to be in their home on Christmas morning and

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>just and almost have the Christmas is that I didn't

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>get to have, you know, and and started and but

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I like, did you did you have that kind of

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>prisms to um, my parents have been together for thirty

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>plus years, and so I woke up and it was

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>every year, you know, Christmas Eve was my dad's side

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>of the family, Christmas Day was my mom's side of

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the family, and it was pretty regimented. And that's the

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>one holiday that was pretty consistent. Thanksgiving kind of fell

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>off later in life, but Christmas has always been more

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of the constant. Now with cousins and relatives scattering all

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 1>over the country and being older, it's it's not the same.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>But as a kid, I mean, have great memories of

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Christmas because it was the same thing every year. And

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>so would your parents come in for if you if

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you meet Christmas in your in your home, would your

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>parents come in for that? Or that won't work because

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 1>there are other siblings And yeah, right now, no, because

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>there's other siblings of a younger brother that's you know,

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>finishing up high school, of her sister that lives a

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>state a state away, and and your mom likes to

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>have you know, she likes to keep everybody together, which

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. It's a great it's a great thing that

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>she wants to try to have everyone. Yeah, it's one

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 1>of those things where I want to start our tradition

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>at home too. But all I'm saying is eventually, like

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it would be cool for the kids to be like, hey,

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going to Grandma Grandpa's this year for for Christmas.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's true. When you when you when you want,

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you it's a wonderful families to have

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>their own traditions, and a tradition doesn't necessarily depend on

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>exactly where you are and there's obviously you can build

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>in other things like we always it doesn't have to

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>be like it's here. Um, we always open things this way.

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>We always have whatever popcorn around our tree. We always

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>have whatever it is that you could make up that

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>could have to do with decorating, baking, But you know,

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just about anything, um but building it picking picking

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a few things that you feel like you're in a

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>year out you'd like to include. Um, it's definitely a

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>nice thing and does build those childhood memories and stealing

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a connection of home. Um, but home being your family,

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>your nuclear family, and so your nuclear family doesn't have

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to be in your house per se, but it could be.

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, we always go to this place and that

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is our family. I want it to be in our house.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>So the thing is I was going to say, so

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the question is, you know, what do each of you

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>have to come, you know, together and say I think

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the three most important things to me about you know,

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>forming our our nuclear tradition would be ABC. Hopefully you

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>have some that overlap those obviously rise to the top

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of the list, and the ones that don't that are different,

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Why do you want them? Why are they important to you? Um,

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>what kind of compromises can be made if we do

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>like the day after Christmas we travel the day after

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Christmas to go there, or like does it have to

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>be for Christmas for you? I don't know. I mean

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that's something that again we know that obviously this Christmas

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>were here. Next Christmas will be our first new house

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>and Nashville, so we're going to be there and then

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>what happens after that, who knows, We'll figure it out,

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>but we know the next time. I want to know now,

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>So that's going to say. So one thing I hear

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, right, Jann, is like you're like, I want

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to know just will always be and you know, you

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>know that that is fueled by the feeling that you

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>never knew where you were going to be exactly. And

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that's where I'm like, I almost want to cry because

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like I already feel that anxiety of being like

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 1>pulled on the holiday, and it's like what you have

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to remember is that something that's fueled by a trauma

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of the past can make it feel like that's really

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>dire in the current or disaster will happen, and for

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you as a child, that wasn't disaster your parents divorced,

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, if that felt disastrous, But that anxiety

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't necessarily rooted in the reality of today, right, it's

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>from It's from before, and you're putting it on today.

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>And if Mike understands the importance of continuity and he

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>feels the same way, he wants traditions too, and he

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>wants continuity with his family. Two, he wants all the

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>same things. Um, you will feel less anxious if you're

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>able to say to yourself some level of um, hey,

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>this is about what did happen to me, not what's

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>going to happen to me. But here's here's the problem.

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I totally hear you. But what I hear when Mike

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>said what he said was that we're doing Christmas. And

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, because we're living in l A right now,

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have Christmas in our house in Nashville.

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>But after that, when he says that, we'll see in

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>my brain what he just said to me is every

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>year after that will be in Virginia. No, not at all.

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I I'm just saying, like, and I

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>know that's not what you say. I'm just saying what

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I heard. And that's where my anxiety was like, but

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I need you to tell me that then every year

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe one of those years will go like

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that's here's here's what when. So when you're having this

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of conversation, right, do you want to say what

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you what you said, and then you want the other

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>person to be able to say, I heard this because

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>just what happened just now. This is more about a

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>couple of therapy. But actually a couple of therapy is

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>really like the most important one. You've just had a child.

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>That's like because it brings up all these things from

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>your own childhood. When you have a child, you hearkened

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>back to all those childhood things for yourself, how you

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>want to be the same, how you want it to

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>be different, etcetera. And what you're nervous about. But you

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 1>heard might say something you didn't say right now, yeah,

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>when you can tell him that's what I heard, and

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>he says, but that's not what I mean. What I

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>mean is it's it's hard to know exactly for the

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>next one a year, exactly where we'll spend every Christmas.

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>But I also want, you know, continuity, instability and etcetera, etcetera,

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>And definitely some of our Christmases will for sure be

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>at home, but I want, especially with my parents, that

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>what you want, I know. I'm like, I'm having anxiety

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>with Yeah, I think it's what you want. Some of

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas to be home, or I want majority of

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>them to be at our our home. And then every

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>other year, every every time years. I don't know as

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, I don't know. I'm just I don't know.

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.280
<v Speaker 1>We have to discuss it. But I'm saying we're discussing

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>you right now is eventually my parents are going to

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>move out of the house there and they're going to downsize,

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and then we then we won't be going back. And

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>as the kids get older, I definitely don't want to

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>travel with them, And I don't want to travel the

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>day after Christmas because I don't want to have the

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>anxiety of our kids. We're leaving tomorrow, like on Christmas Day,

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>we gotta pack and leave tomorrow for Grandma Grandpa's right,

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>But then we're spending all this money shipping everything back

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I just I don't want to. I

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do it every of the year. I'm saying,

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:26.959
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to do that. But you just said,

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 1>like that's what you were thinking, and I don't want

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that either. I'm just throwing that Jesus Christ. Okay, So

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>this could be a very productive conversation if you each

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>give the other a little more time to say, so

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>what you're feeling. So like Jenna saying I would really

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.760
<v Speaker 1>want to feel that most of our Christmas is would

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>be in our home, and Mike is actually saying the

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>same thing. Doesn't want to be nailed to the wall

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 1>on it, because why Mike, what what do you feel

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>nervous about? Um? I just I don't see why we're

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>three years out from us even potentially going back. I

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>don't we might not ever go back. Who knows, we

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>have like, we don't know what in three years what

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>things are going to look like. And maybe we're just

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>both you know what, We're just gonna have Christmas here? Sorry, sorry,

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, sorry, guys, if you guys want to have

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Christmas like, we would love to have you down here,

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and we have plenty of room. Maybe this could be

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>our tradition. It sounds to me like Mike is more

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>concerned with feeling that he doesn't have to make a

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>promise that is iron tight, but that do you feel

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>also like most of your Christmas is do you want

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to be in your home? Yes, but you don't know

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like your parents could move, they could not move. They

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>could in the next three years. So much is going

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.959
<v Speaker 1>to change with Jane and I career wise, with with

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>my family back east, with what they're doing, with my

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>brother going to large of my parents potentially downsizing because

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you know they're going to have a mike. You're speaking

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of objectives, possible facts, and uncertainty and Canna, who has

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>come from an uncertain background and is week's postpartum in

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>what I am, and and newborns bring uncertainty of the

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>wazoo with them, like right every day is uncertain who

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>knows what's you know, like the baby will be await,

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the baby asleep, but poop it won't it be it

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>won't it? And so she's at a time where it's

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 1>particularly hard to manage uncertainty. And maybe it's not even

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.359
<v Speaker 1>her foretake even what has happened in her past um

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 1>for really, what you guys are talking about in terms

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of factual stuff, you're not really on a different page.

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>It's the it's the emotional, the valance of do I

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>get certainty or don't I right? And it's the verbage

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>and vernacular that isn't matching up with what Jana wants

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to hear. But the concept is like I can't breathe

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>when you said every other Christmas, Like it makes me

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>have so much anxiety thinking about that. So what you

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>have to know, Janna, is that he is not saying

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it will be but he said those words, but he

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>also said the words, maybe every Christmas will be at

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>our house. Yes, we'll say that. What am I supposed

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>to do with that? Then when I hear one thing

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 1>and then I hear another thing because he's telling you

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that he what he's really saying is I can't predict

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the future. But basically, I want most of our Christmas

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Is to be home, but I also want to acknowledge

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the fact that there is uncertainty in life in the future.

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>That's where he's coming from. It feels to me that

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you want either one of two things. You want me

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>to say every Christmas is gonna be at our house

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>or tell you exactly what you were going to go

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>back to Gene. When I'm all I'm saying is we

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Don't ask me three years out. I'm giving

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.879
<v Speaker 1>you both responses because I'm like, I don't know what's

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, Like Dr Mike, Mike, would it be

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>hard for you to just say to Jenna, Um, I'm

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 1>listening to you. Do you want to know that we're

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>building tradition and tradition in our home and that most

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of the time Christmas will be at our home with

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>our traditions. Do you that? Yes? I do, but know

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>in Janna as well as I do, because she is

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:33.240
<v Speaker 1>my lovely wife, she always takes it a step lower

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>where if I say that, then she's like, that's but

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>how many years? Most of the time, No, that's not true.

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>That is absolutely true, because when you said those two

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>things to me right there, I said no and no.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>What I would have, what I would hear is if

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you said just what Gayle said the majority of the time,

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I want us to do, but it would be nice

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:56.439
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while or every you know, again,

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>don't give me a year, but just maybe you know,

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know the right verbage just because you're

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you're very hung up on a promise of the details

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and what I'm saying. What I'm saying is um, it's

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 1>in those promises of details in the future, which has

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to do all whenever you're talking so far out and

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you have and let's let's be real, right, you can't

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>know that far out, So there's going to be a

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:29.240
<v Speaker 1>measure of uncertainty. People who are anxious, and Jenna has

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:33.720
<v Speaker 1>every reason you're just struggling with anxiety right now, really

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>have difficulty with that. So what I'm saying too, is, Jenna,

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>when you get that surge that you're talking about in

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>your body, that feeling of I've just heard that, you know,

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>when you get that, you have to identify that for

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:48.760
<v Speaker 1>yourself as anxiety. That doesn't mean that what he's saying

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 1>is really the problem you. It's you have anxiety and

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.720
<v Speaker 1>that kind of content of the uncertainty of the future

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>is tripping it off. And I feel like, because you

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 1>do hold on to exactly what I say, that if

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I give you an answer that I'm unprepared to give,

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>just to either a peasy or whatever. And then the

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>conversation comes up in a few years or next year,

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you're like, but you said that we would never go back,

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>or you said that we go back not this year,

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>but now you want to change it like I can't

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>take you for your word because you said this, but

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>now you're saying this. I understand your fear, but that's

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not going to do that. I just don't

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>want to hear the what you said every other year.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I just can we just say the majority of the time,

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>but you'd love to go back sometime The majority of

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the time, Christmas will be at our house, but I

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 1>would love to go back to Virginia at some point

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>in time. Thank you, Gail working our Where can our

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:47.399
<v Speaker 1>listeners find you? Where can I find you and then

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>read more about you and what you have to offer. Sure,

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a website www dot gail fat dot com.

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I tweet which is at Dr Gail sault um and

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>EID one of those places they can ask me questions.

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>They can find me um. I loved your fift people.

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I definitely try to if you tweet me and try

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 1>to answer your questions the best I can. Well, you're

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the best, and you've saved Christmas in our household, So

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>thank you. We really appreciate it. Give yourselves some TLC

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this month and and you'll see as as you move

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>out of months. One things to get incrementally a little easier.

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you really appreciate it. Guys. You know

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:33.799
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<v Speaker 1>and I are so excited because we have the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Serena Vincent in studio. And you are so tiny for

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<v Speaker 1>being ten weeks away from having a baby. Boy, you

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<v Speaker 1>are so tiny for having the baby six days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So good. I like to say, I'm taller, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is what my mom tells me. So there's more space

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<v Speaker 1>for it to go. You look beautiful, you know, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You look stunning, You're glowing. You and you're ten of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks away. Yeah, I'm ten weeks so hate it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>or left eight weeks away. I'm thirty two weeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. I feel great. We were just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this outside. I feel great now. Um, how's the pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>been For the first fourteen and a half weeks? I

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<v Speaker 1>had himesis. Yeah, I had to vomiting sickness, I was bedridden.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got somehow I got through life, but I

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 1>don't remember how. I don't need. Did you to get

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<v Speaker 1>ivy s No? I didn't have no, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>not as bad to you, but no, but still it sucks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really bad ful. Yeah, and I thought, um,

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>when did your's end twenty two weeks? Oh my god? Okay,

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 1>well so mine was mine was fourteen and a half week.

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<v Speaker 1>But still that's it's awful, isn't it. It's awful. But

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:52.439
<v Speaker 1>it's gone now, it's gone. Now, yeah, it's totally gone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally gone. And I can eat food and were

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.879
<v Speaker 1>you with everything was disgusting to you, right, and food

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of everything, everything everything. My husband's just like, okay, yeah,

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I have empathy for your boyfriend because that's I mean,

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>an empathy for obviously you guys and you going through it,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one talks about the guy on this end.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have empathy because it's it's hard to see

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<v Speaker 1>your significant other in pain like that and such discomforting

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<v Speaker 1>for him to try to take care of you when

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling that missable. There's literally nothing that he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually had a broken leg at the time, so

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:31.399
<v Speaker 1>we were just like this disgusting mess. Like we were

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<v Speaker 1>this disgusting mess just on the couch, like like I

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<v Speaker 1>was puking and I was like trying to help him,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I couldn't make him food because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was it was crazy, and we like postmate

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<v Speaker 1>something and then like I tried to eat it and

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<v Speaker 1>then throw it up, and it was just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy how you forget the feeling because now I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember what that feels. No, I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember how, you know what I realized what

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do anything that was like fit fourteen a

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<v Speaker 1>half weeks like, I didn't. After I got through it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, there's like a weird stock of

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 1>mail here that I didn't see. We're being evicted from see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So Serena and I were just talking about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she you're doing a doula, so you're like a

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<v Speaker 1>birthing like in a bath So I'm having my Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a natural birth as long as everything is

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and continues to be healthy, goes well. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so that means no up, no, but Gerald, no, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not in a hospital. So I could have my midwife

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<v Speaker 1>come to my house and and Dola, they could come

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<v Speaker 1>to your house, or you can choose to do it

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<v Speaker 1>at a birthing center, which is basically you just you

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<v Speaker 1>just go to their office and they have a bathtub

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.720
<v Speaker 1>in a bedroom, in a bed, and you're The cool

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>thing is is that everything. If everything goes you know, well, um,

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you you're not strapped table, so you're free to labor,

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>moving around and um, eat and drink. You don't have

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to have an IV you can really, um, you can

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>have all the lights, all your music on, like like

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<v Speaker 1>your your hero. No, see, I don't think that at all.

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I disagree because I knocking wood, you're so strong.

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I've never be the epidure, even though it made me crazy.

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>But no, I've never knocking We been in the hospital.

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Have only been the hospital to like to take care

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 1>of sick people and family or whatever. So I may

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to tell you what a contraction feels like. It's like

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>someone stabbing you in the stomach, think with a really

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:45.200
<v Speaker 1>sharp knife. Okay, okay, it's right. What if God God

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>forbid anything negative does start to occur? What's the plan

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:53.359
<v Speaker 1>if you need Okay? So never the couple that right

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<v Speaker 1>before they were doing a home birth, because they walked

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<v Speaker 1>in and she said, and he goes, are you guys,

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't say, I have a schedule C section,

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And then he goes, we try to home birth. The

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of that were right in front of us and

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 1>we were going to the hospital. But they ended up

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital because I think I think she labored

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 1>too long, is what he had said. That can happen, Um,

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>that that can happen. Um. So right. So, but but

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>there's as you know, there's like time in labor to

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:28.399
<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, this isn't going. You know, this isn't

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>going how we wanted to go. You're not progressing or whatever,

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and now we need to do these other things. This woman,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Natural First Center and UM and right across

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the street from Theaters and the midwife. Her name is Simona.

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>She's amazing and she's delivered over ten thou babies and

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:50.440
<v Speaker 1>all of her grandkids and she's amazing. I just I

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 1>envy you because I have so much anxiety that that

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 1>would bring a total crazy amount of anxiety to do that.

0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 1>But it's just I wish I could do that. I

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>wish I could have your just it's going to be beautiful.

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:06.319
<v Speaker 1>And but see, like we all have anxiety, right, It's

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like my anxiety is the hospital. I started off exaters

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 1>with with an obie and I would I was like

0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in the elevators getting like I would get nervous when

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I was there, and I didn't like it, and I

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, why do I know all this stuff? And

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>like why do I have I have duelas and midwives

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and my family, Like why why am I not doing

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do? And then I just like

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:28.800
<v Speaker 1>laid in bed one night and like went on YELP

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and found this place and I'm so happy that I

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that I did. And we were doing like this like

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:39.399
<v Speaker 1>hypno birth thing classes and it is sort of like

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 1>it does feel like very The kind of hypno birth

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 1>thing is that birth is an extension of your sexuality

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and of the connection between the two of you, and

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 1>how how you made your baby is how you're going

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to get your baby out, so you can because sex

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't douce labor. Oh my god. So I don't know

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>if that will be happening. We'll see. You're like me,

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>not like active labor, but like like like having like

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>sax and like the baby like not an active labor,

0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>but like so it's supposed to be helpful to induce

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a natural way to induce. So this baby is a miracle,

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 1>though I think I believe. I mean, so I were

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>told that you couldn't have kids, yes, so this is interesting. Um,

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>it was the same and bless her. She's a wonderful doctor.

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:46.439
<v Speaker 1>But um, doctors don't know awesome. So I was going

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 1>through a divorce. Sorry, I was going through a divorce,

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and but two sides said sorry, question mark, like we're

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 1>happy that you're You're good. Yeah, taking you back in

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the story. I was going through a divorce and I

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 1>just thought, maybe I should like do that test to

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>see what your numbers are, to see what your levels are,

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:09.840
<v Speaker 1>to see if you can get old. Were you at

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the time MT seven? Um, they're six or seven? And

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm fine, I can get pregnant in

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>two seconds. And I did that. I took the test,

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and then I was on the pilot. I was shooting

0:58:26.120 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the pilot of a Disney show that I just that

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>we just wrapped stuck in the middle where I play

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a mom of seven kids. Oh my gosh, and so

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the first time I've ever been able to play a

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:38.320
<v Speaker 1>mom at all. And then the role was like really

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>special to me. So I'm on the side of the pilot.

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It's lunchtime, and my doctor calls and she said, um,

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 1>we got your tests back. We need to aggressively try

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to get you pregnant right now or you need to

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:56.480
<v Speaker 1>freeze your eggs because you probably won't be able to

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have kids in the next year too because of your eggcount,

0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:02.840
<v Speaker 1>because because of yeah, the numbers and your fs F

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 1>s H levels and all that stuff. And I was like, aggressively,

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 1>try to get me pregnant right now with who? And so,

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the time, I was like I wasn't

0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>fully divorced, but we had been severy long enough that

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was dating, and it's like I'm just

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.640
<v Speaker 1>supposed to like pick somebody, you know, and now, and

0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:29.120
<v Speaker 1>then you turn into the crazy lady. It's like iraduating

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, friend in dating, you know, And it really

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>messed with my head. So I went to UM. She

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:44.439
<v Speaker 1>referred me to a fertility clinic, and I went through

0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>this whole process, and I went to these seminars and

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I went to this doctor and they they give you this,

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<v Speaker 1>they give you that, and they do a transvaginal you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ultrasound and then you know, on a certain day of

0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>your cycle and count how many follicles you have. And

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<v Speaker 1>then then he was like, yeah, you these are your numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what this is. You're probably not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to conceive naturally. This is what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You need to freeze your eggs. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I learned that freezing an egg has only

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven percent chance of becoming a baby. We've done

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<v Speaker 1>IVF twice, so you know all these things, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that fact though, So say that again. So

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<v Speaker 1>freezing an eggs only only has an eleven percent chance

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<v Speaker 1>of being a baby. Freezing an embryo, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>you did, has a lot. There's a lot of success there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, what it didn't work for us?

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<v Speaker 1>Though it didn't. These are both that you end up

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<v Speaker 1>getting after both babies came out a month after. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's miracles, I don't know if I needed like some

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<v Speaker 1>of the medicines from but continue, Oh my god, that's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's very it's the same, it's like the same story.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so I well then I then then I was

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<v Speaker 1>like that statistically doesn't make sense, and they said, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>Um then you should. You should. Your your odds are

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<v Speaker 1>better if you freeze an embryo, and like, well, like

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<v Speaker 1>when I need sperm for that? And he literally handed

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<v Speaker 1>me a bind durst and I like that's broke down

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<v Speaker 1>into yours. And I was like, like, like a romantic

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<v Speaker 1>not nothing against that. Open it. You didn't push it

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<v Speaker 1>right back. I would love to see that there be

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<v Speaker 1>like h that guy. Yeah we could and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of women to do this, and obviously it's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing and it works for many people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but where just who I am and where I was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, it broke my heart and well to

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<v Speaker 1>be especially because you want to be a mother, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're told that you can't be mother. It's like there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many women out there, they don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>be moms. I have kids and we're like I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mother, Like I'm my purpose on life

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<v Speaker 1>is to be a mother, and that you're told no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's that's heartbreaking, right, And then which was

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also like you know, hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and all of this stuff. And I was like

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I was like I said, I was

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<v Speaker 1>going through a divorce and I was, which makes it

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<v Speaker 1>I was sort of like the setting my whole life

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<v Speaker 1>and like I feel like the universe, God, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>wanna call I was like, all right, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take everything away from you. Until you get divorced and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll put it all back together. So like I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing the pilot for Stuck in the Medal,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know if it was going to get

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<v Speaker 1>picked up. I was waiting tables. I was like back

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<v Speaker 1>waiting tables. I was like waiting on Jamie Pressley, who

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<v Speaker 1>I was in not another team movie with. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a real story. And this is the first time I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this on It's so cool. On. I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was still working, but I was like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep my life together. So I was like, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't going to work. This is I can't I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not freezing and every I'm not freezing as I can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford it. I can't. I'm just, um, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to choose to not believe that this is even real.

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<v Speaker 1>And I I sort of battled that um And for

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<v Speaker 1>the next few years it did make dating and that

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<v Speaker 1>tricky because I had this fear in me um that

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<v Speaker 1>one and the countdown too, like ever going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a mom Yeah, So UM, I just sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>let it go and I wanted to try UM with

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend. Now. I was like, how long have you

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<v Speaker 1>been with your boyfriend? We've been together, Um, one day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's um, it's a long, complicated story. But love company here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole long story. Yeah, it's it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good story. Is gonna get married? Um? Probably yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it all there's so much happening that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and having been married, I don't feel like I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do that before we have the baby. Also, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so you guys were actively trying that we were not

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<v Speaker 1>not trying. Yeah, And then I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to try to have a baby and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, we just hadn't gotten there yet. And um

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<v Speaker 1>my show ended and um we went to Italy for

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<v Speaker 1>five days and I made a wish in the Trevy

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<v Speaker 1>Fountain room. Stop you want to get pregnant? Fled a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I ate a ton of pasta, and why, like the

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<v Speaker 1>time of our lives and pregnant? Did you the whole time?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you mentally, even with all these hurdles medically in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you, did you just still just believe that

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<v Speaker 1>it was possible? I didn't, Like, I just like made

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<v Speaker 1>a very clear decision that I am not going to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that I can't get pregnant naturally until I actively

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<v Speaker 1>try and and then I've since heard many a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stories of women that are around the same age

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<v Speaker 1>seven that their doctors are scaring them and telling them

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<v Speaker 1>they might not be able to get pregnant, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they go through all of this stuff and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't even tried. Well. I will say, though, to

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<v Speaker 1>act as a medical people, they they after thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, your number does diminish huge. Like my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>was going to freeze your eggs. She went in at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four, she had, you know, a plenty of eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>She went back thirty five and a half, she had

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<v Speaker 1>like six eggs and there wasn't no point to free

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<v Speaker 1>because they're going to be gone, so I mean almost nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just drastically dropped. So that's why I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, again, if you just never know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, look what happened. That's some miracles of

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<v Speaker 1>childbirth and life in itself. I just but I loved

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<v Speaker 1>and you hate the playing god thing too, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love Serena's your optimism and decision to not

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<v Speaker 1>believe that yet even though you were told. I still

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<v Speaker 1>think the mind is a powerful thing if you just

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<v Speaker 1>if you're optimistic. Now, if you just sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>not proactive and just believe, oh, this will happen to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you still got to do something about it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you actively try with your boyfriend, you're optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>that you weren't going to let the door shut on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's something to be said for that. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. I love that aspect of Sure. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to obviously see things, especially because most

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<v Speaker 1>of them would be like the stress put so much

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<v Speaker 1>stress themselves. Then you can't get pregnant because you're stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, if you're thinking the whole time, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to get pregn I'm not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get pregnant, then you're just telling yourself your

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<v Speaker 1>body is not going to react. If you're it's so

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<v Speaker 1>much easier done. No, I believe that. But but it's

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<v Speaker 1>more than just that. It's in life in general, with

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<v Speaker 1>things you want to accomplish or whatever. It's things that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do in your life. If you're just

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<v Speaker 1>if you sit there and doubt yourself the entire time,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, nothing's going to happen. You doubt yourself. I

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<v Speaker 1>totally I totally agree. Yeah, you're putting like you're sending

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<v Speaker 1>conflicting messages out there. I want to try to get pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I can, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to. I did battle it and like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was it's a battle. And then I came

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<v Speaker 1>to the decision if I can't get pregnant naturally, then

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<v Speaker 1>then that's okay. And then I got there. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>get to be a mother in like this different way.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've got kids from all over the world that

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<v Speaker 1>are like I wish you were my mom, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in like all different countries and languages and everything, just

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<v Speaker 1>being a TV mom and um, I have a huge family,

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<v Speaker 1>and I you know, there's there is um there is

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<v Speaker 1>no limit on like the love we have or the

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<v Speaker 1>love we can give. And look at you now anyway, Letty,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ten weeks away from having a baby boy, so exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you and your boyfriend lived together? Yes? Okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you have names like going back and forth. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. So I don't want to say my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you name your baby boy? His name is

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Ja. It means healing, He's been very healing for us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fantastic. We do have two babies. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>three almost three year old little girl, the three year

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<v Speaker 1>little girl. So did IVF and then it didn't take.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't take, and then the next month got pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>with Jolie. Did IVF again because we had an embryo

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<v Speaker 1>leftover from the first round, and we got pregnant. But

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<v Speaker 1>every time I would get pregnant, I got. I got

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant both times with the IVF, but then lost it

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<v Speaker 1>very soon. It was chemical com so, but then the

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<v Speaker 1>next month I'd get pregnant. Yeah, so that extra little

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<v Speaker 1>dose of hormone or whatever. Then, yeah, I did. Being

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<v Speaker 1>on Stuck in the Middle, which has been a hit show,

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<v Speaker 1>you and for Disney. Being on that, did that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>increase your urge to want to be a mom or

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<v Speaker 1>is it were you the same like you always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mom no matter what, Or is just

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<v Speaker 1>being that mom role and being around kids where you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be a mom. I've always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a mom since I was a baby. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>since I was a baby, I wanted a baby. Um um.

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<v Speaker 1>Being on that show, I had no idea like how

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<v Speaker 1>trans it was transformative. It really was like I really

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<v Speaker 1>like I love those kids. I still love them and

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<v Speaker 1>they and like we weirdly feel like a family. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it didn't necessarily want to make me want them

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<v Speaker 1>even more. It just, um it filled my heart in

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<v Speaker 1>like this other way that I didn't realize could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Um at a job, you know. Um so and all

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<v Speaker 1>the kids were like you have to be a mom,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to give the best. Yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you like hear the needs you know from the doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like it was a weird thing. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they all call me mom, like on set it was

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<v Speaker 1>a weird moment in my life that I was shooting

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<v Speaker 1>this pilot and they were like mom, mom, And my

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<v Speaker 1>Dactor's like, you know, yeah we did three seasons. Seasons

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<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. Yeah. Um this little guy I know. At

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<v Speaker 1>all time, I'm like I can't really audition right now

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<v Speaker 1>because I got I had a baby, Yeah all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a baby in my billy. So um, I

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<v Speaker 1>was hiding and quite a few auditions after the show wrapped,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like pinned for like all these different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just came down to It was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really you know, you know, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>do a movie in Thailand and November and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's not. So what's your biggest issue with your boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we like to talk about our issues on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you what do you guys usually fight

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<v Speaker 1>about the most? I wish he was here because we

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<v Speaker 1>just we just got into an argument about the holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>um with a therapist on the line before you came in.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting. UM, but I'm curious, Well, tell us that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys fight too. Oh yeah, we had. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday fight. Yeah. Yeah, his families in Oregon, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>our plan was to go up there, drive up there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like ten twelve hours for Thanksgiving, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>cooking and all of these things, and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to it, I was like, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to like figure all this out right,

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<v Speaker 1>like like what like we need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we can get like the turkey that I want, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like an organic whatever turkey and in this small town,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna get and like and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>pack this and that we don't have all of the

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<v Speaker 1>things to make things giving to we need to like

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<v Speaker 1>pack like a platter, and like you're trying to per

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<v Speaker 1>and like I'm trying to like and he's just like

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<v Speaker 1>to do like on another like not and and at

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<v Speaker 1>one point a couple of times he was like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to go up there. We had

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<v Speaker 1>to go up there for something else, and then like

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't happen, and and then he was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like he said a few times, he's like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even really want to go. I think I want to

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<v Speaker 1>drive to all hours. Pregnant, right and cooked your family

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<v Speaker 1>figure all this out? So you are you are frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't being president, and he also wasn't being

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<v Speaker 1>helpful with it. Was like the night before and we

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to some work event and it was

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<v Speaker 1>midnight the night before we were leaving and we weren't packed.

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<v Speaker 1>All this stuff wasn't figured out, nothing was organized, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, let's go to bed, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like no, I thought we'd watch and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not watching anything, no wet And it was fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, nothing that's done, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. Where are you thinking about it? This

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<v Speaker 1>is your family, Like you have to help me think

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<v Speaker 1>about these things, like we're you know, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>get the platter down from up there. Yeah, when are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to do it? I think that's a man thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Men just don't. Well, I'll say you're a really great planner,

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel I feel as if sometimes guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the because we're we're ten steps ahead of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so they don't have the Your timelines are

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<v Speaker 1>usually sooner than ours. Granted the night before he should

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<v Speaker 1>have been like, all right, let's let's grant out. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can pack in twenty minutes. I said, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't pack into it. I also like, I've had this

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<v Speaker 1>weird like pelvis hip issue, so it's so much better today,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, but I've had to see a chiropractor throughout

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<v Speaker 1>my pregnancy, and there have been weeks where I can't

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<v Speaker 1>walk at all and I've been limping and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very painful. And this was one of those weeks were

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<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't, Like I literally couldn't been down, couldn't. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I'm glad that you can pack

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty minutes. Yeah, but I can't move. I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>so who's packing my bag. So for the baby, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to set some real good boundaries with us.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I did with Mike. I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give him a list, and I'll say this by

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<v Speaker 1>tuesday or by next week. You know, certain things I

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<v Speaker 1>need him to get done around the house because I

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<v Speaker 1>have because if not, I would get them all done today.

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<v Speaker 1>But again I don't, or I'd get mad at him

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't do it today. But if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>timeline in my head where I said, okay, you break

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<v Speaker 1>down the boxes by the end of the month, he's great,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So at least he gets a timeline too,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I don't get frustrated that they're not done yesterday, right,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I would have done a yesterday. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we can't. We actually can't do everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>brought up an interesting topic on the following week's show,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so curious about your fight. I brought up the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of why don't men ever give their wives honey

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<v Speaker 1>to do with? And I amost slap him, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of like, are you Yeah, So I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lost that cute because you'll you'll find out, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find out that when you have the baby, your

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<v Speaker 1>your husband's never gonna change out the clothes, but that

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<v Speaker 1>they overgrew, that they would overgrow or is that the

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<v Speaker 1>right grew or I mean just any of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we just we or the dentist or the

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<v Speaker 1>appointments or you just we just do it, mean you

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<v Speaker 1>just do them like yeah, but because we have the

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<v Speaker 1>sense to like you don't have the urgency to do

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<v Speaker 1>any of those things. Yeah, it's it's not that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't think of them. It's just like your timeline that

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<v Speaker 1>you just get it down before we Well, thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>because Jason's nursery would have been you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, honey, would you like me to show you

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<v Speaker 1>around Jason's nursery and let you know where all the

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<v Speaker 1>things are. And he's like, I'll show you. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, it's over here. Either I go, nope, that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually not where the newborn are. Okay, something came in.

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<v Speaker 1>Any time something came to the house, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go in the nursery. She'd get it, open the box,

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<v Speaker 1>take up the tags, wash her clothes, put it because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do like five loads of of

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<v Speaker 1>of laundry two weeks before the baby's it's smart. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess who doesn't have a nursery yet? Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your has and hasn't I mean your boyfriend hasn't not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was another interesting conversation because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point are we like, yeah, so no, he's

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<v Speaker 1>now he's totally. He's like at home, like ripping out

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<v Speaker 1>wires and like read moving things and like and and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to paint. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>brand to paint. I was like, there's this it's like

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<v Speaker 1>ugly brown office colors and here he's like it's fine.

1:16:34.800 --> 1:16:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, one's not fine. Yeah, I want to paint.

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<v Speaker 1>Just need Yeah, we painted, and well that's it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting the colors. It's like grays and navy and wood

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<v Speaker 1>and Silver's are fun. They're really found excited. We're moving

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<v Speaker 1>to Nashville and we're building a house there. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to Jay's room. When are you moving

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<v Speaker 1>next year? Yeah, we're excited when there. Before we came

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<v Speaker 1>out here, we're down here like two years and with

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<v Speaker 1>a growing family, we want more space and we're like

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<v Speaker 1>out here it's just too expensive. We're just like kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, for you, I'm happy that you're you're moving.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Thanks. Okay, so where can our listeners find

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<v Speaker 1>you at? Serena Vincent on Twitter, Instagram, Twitter and Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>above and yeah awesome. Yeah, well I'm We're so excited

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Thank you, and please go on her on

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<v Speaker 1>her little board socials and please wish her a happy,

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<v Speaker 1>happy delivery. I hope it's cute. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>go the hospital meat to you did not have any

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<v Speaker 1>that's your yes. Yeah, so we'll see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's thanks, Thank you guys. Beautiful Serena is so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>That was super sweet. Yeah, she's really sweet. We could

1:17:53.120 --> 1:17:55.240
<v Speaker 1>have just sat here and talked for you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful. I loved her perspective. It's I'm just envious

1:17:58.400 --> 1:18:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of people that can have mentality. I'm even envious of Dean,

1:18:03.040 --> 1:18:05.559
<v Speaker 1>like how Dean went away for three weeks to where

1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:09.400
<v Speaker 1>did he go? Eastern when he went to Japan and

1:18:10.240 --> 1:18:12.519
<v Speaker 1>most recently it isn't like South America South America. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so envious the people that can just travel alone

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<v Speaker 1>like that for for three weeks. You know how much

1:18:17.120 --> 1:18:20.320
<v Speaker 1>anxiety I'd have the second I'd play I'm too far

1:18:20.360 --> 1:18:24.000
<v Speaker 1>away from this someone. I don't know where to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just have such envy for people that

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<v Speaker 1>can just go and you know, travel like that or

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<v Speaker 1>do do a duala berthing and natural. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>just like, wow, to have that anxiety free. But yet

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<v Speaker 1>her anxiety is a hospital. I'm like, give me a hospital,

1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:47.519
<v Speaker 1>like I got all the people take care of me, drugs,

1:18:50.400 --> 1:18:52.519
<v Speaker 1>to me, what's wrong. But it's just it's so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>like how some people's anxiety is is what causes some

1:18:56.520 --> 1:18:59.680
<v Speaker 1>people to have anxiety, right exactly. It's people's triggers are

1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:03.080
<v Speaker 1>different for everybody. Yeah, you know, by the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going home, we're gonna talk about Chris when we're

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<v Speaker 1>out of the room. I said, hey, babe, are you

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<v Speaker 1>really serious about every other year? And you're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, we're three years away from that decision. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you politely say, you said, we might not even

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<v Speaker 1>be together. I was like, we might not even be together,

1:19:24.080 --> 1:19:25.640
<v Speaker 1>so we don't have to worry about it now to we.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't even I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally do not know. I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's it's gonna be my answer. Can we

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