1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, gang? This is David Zeer. Thank you 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. I 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: am coming to you from our brand new Washington studios. 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: The place is awesome, so much going on out there. 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: It's been a real busy two weeks between the Charlie 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Kirk assassination and nine to eleven coverage. I was on 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: the ground at ground zero. I have a couple more 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: interviews with people who lost loved ones during nine to eleven. 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: I think you're going to like those. Last Sunday we 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: hosted at the John F. Kennedy Center. How ironic, right. 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: He was a Democrat and he was assassinated in nineteen 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: sixty four. They started building the Kennedy Center. It was 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: delivered I think in seventy one. But Donald Trump, you know, 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: takes it over. The programming there is really great and 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: it's not full America haters. I kind of love that. 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: And last weekend we celebrated Charlie Kirk there with an 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: event with the greatest lineup Tulsea Gabbard. Everybody was so 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: great and the crowd was really moved. There was about 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: a thousand person overflow. So I'm going to give you 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: some interviews I did with people who got turned away 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: because they couldn't get in, but they put it together 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: forty eight hours and like over three thousand people responded. 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: It was really very, very moving, and I wanted to 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: let you know. We'll be on the ground this weekend 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: for Charlie Kirk at the State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: with comprehensive coverage with the RAV team, so I'll see 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: everybody tomorrow. And I wanted to get to our first 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: guest here. What's going on? You know, the repercussions from 29 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk assassination really haven't even hit home yet, right, 30 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: and I have to discuss that's what's going on in 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: the teachers union. I have Greg Murrad is the VP 32 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: of federal Affairs for the National Right to Work Committee. 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Greg. 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: Thanks David. Great to be with you. 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, really and honored to have you on. And we 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: love Mark Mix. And you know, what is going on here? 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: Is it that our teachers are dumb, some of them, 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: a portion of them in every state and just about 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: every state, if not all, These people are making outrageous 40 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: comments and they're teaching our children. What's going on. 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's truly outrageous. 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: I mean, anybody that believes it is appropriate to celebrate 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: a political assassination has no business being anywhere near children, 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: let alone teaching them. And yet that's the place that 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: we are. And frankly, I think a whole lot of 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: blame can be laid at the feet of the educational 47 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: industrial complex, if you will, that has been taken over 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: by woke leftist for a couple of decades. Now, if 49 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: we're creating the climate on campuses that radicalized people like 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: this assassin. 51 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Right, So what if I'm a teacher and I said, 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: and if a student died who was shot on a 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: street corner in downtown Chicago or anywhere, died in a 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: car accident, I said, good for him, you know, like, 55 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't I be fired? So what's the difference between this 56 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: and yeah? 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously the difference is that, of course, Charlie Kirk 58 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: is a high profile figure, and a whole lot of 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: left just really really hated him. I think most of 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: them never bothered to listen to one of his interviews 61 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: or one of his podcasts, because he certainly comes across 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: when you actually bother to watch as one of the 63 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: generalist and nicest people on our side engaging with the enemy, 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: but nevertheless they hate him, and therefore they think it 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: is okay to be bad mouthing him. And we have 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: come to a place in this country where, unfortunately, those 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: on the far woke, fascist left think that it is 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: okay to murder somebody you disagree with. They have been 69 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: preaching this for years, that speech is the same thing 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: as violence, and so they think it's okay to answer 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: speech with violence. 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: I can never imagine in a million years anyone any 73 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: one of my colleagues, anybody in the conservative movement. I mean, 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for forty years, you know, thirty 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: seven years, arguing with kids on college campuses and high schools, 76 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: and I never said anything like that. They can't get 77 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: away with this. The Massachusetts Teachers Association is demanding that 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: school officials not take actions against five teachers. What I 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: ragious think to say Bremen High School teacher in Illinois 80 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: Bremen High School in Illinois said you reap what you 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: sew and I would teach us at one less Nazi 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: tell us what's going on in the state of Virginia. 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and in Virginia the Virginia Education Association, the Virginia Teachers' 84 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: Union is trying to tell administrators, hey, you'd better not 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: be disciplining teachers that tell their students that it was 86 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: a great thing that Charlie Kirk is murdered, because of 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: course it's the job of the union. They think to 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: promote that sort of radical ideology rather than to promote 89 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: good teaching. Once in a while they're they're honest about that, 90 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: but most of the time they try to hide behind 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: the children that they are actually radicalizing. The Teachers' Union 92 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: is defending teachers that want to create more Charlie Kirk 93 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: killers out there, and it's truly appalling. 94 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: What's the difference? Okay, so you know, I'm a free 95 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: speech advocate. A lot of my friends are like, listen, 96 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't care what they say. It's free speech. You 97 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: can't come down on free speech. What's the difference between this? 98 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Is it that they're in a job with taxpayer money, 99 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: you know, and they're they can you know, because like 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: the argument that oh, they can incite violence in the 101 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: free speech mind doesn't hold any water. So how do 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: we separate the two. 103 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: Well, let's start by recognizing the irony of the fact 104 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: that they're celebrating a guy who killed a man for 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: speaking freely. So setting that aside, we've got the main difference, 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: in my mind, at least especially in the education world, 107 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: is these people are in charge of teaching our children, 108 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: and there are some beliefs that are fundamentally incompatible with 109 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: teaching and raising children. And the belief that political assassination 110 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: is okay if it's your enemy falls into that category. 111 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Would you have a different opinion more if it was 112 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: a college professor teaching over eighteen year olds who are adults, 113 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: legal adults, who can vote, who can join the military. 114 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Is it worse or is it not as bad when 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: they do it versus telling this to a minor. 116 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I would call it worse, 117 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: but it's certainly every bit as bad. The colleges in 118 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: this country, I mean, college is where this kid got radicalized. 119 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: He was raised in. 120 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: A a by all accounts, normal family and went off 121 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: to colleges, but as a by all accounts normal kid. 122 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: The indoctrination system in so many of American colleges is 123 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: so systemic now and so powerful that it's just inescapable 124 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: and so no I think that a college professor, a 125 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: college dean of students who's celebrating publicly, celebrating or even 126 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: privately in front of his classroom, celebrating a political assassination 127 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: shouldn't should be dismissed from his job. 128 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: One of my favorite lines last week at the JFK 129 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Center Memorial for Trump was when Carrie Lake said, do 130 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: not send your kids to these indoctrination camps. You know, 131 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: when I was sixteen, I was a Young Americans for 132 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Freedom's chapter ahead, and we used to go to the 133 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: local college campuses and argue with all these nit wits, 134 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, and it was It was serious back then too. 135 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: But this is a whole other level. The desensitization of 136 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: human life is just at another level. Now. I wanted 137 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: to give you the last word. We have about a 138 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: minute and a half. Tell us your final thoughts. How 139 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: do we go forward from here? 140 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's a number of things we can do. 141 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: The first one is that every state that is currently 142 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: bargaining with a teachers union should cut it out. You 143 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: have no business surrendering public policy to some third party institution. 144 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: Government governors and legislators should make public policy, and if 145 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: they delegate it to a school board, or if you 146 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: have an elected school board, that's great, But nobody should 147 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: be should be giving a union that much authority over 148 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: the spending of the public person and the setting of 149 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: public policy and the way that our children are educated. 150 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: It's just flat out wrong. 151 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: And so if you have any discretion in that at all, 152 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: you should stop empowering these teachers' unions whose job is 153 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: to defend bad teachers and in this case, in these 154 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: cases that we're talking about right now, to defend outrageous 155 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: teachers who should not be anywhere near children. 156 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get we're a private corporation that's non union. 157 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: You can't say whatever you want, so probably no difference there, right. 158 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, private corporation has certainly going to fire people to 159 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: create what they call hostile work environments for a variety 160 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: of reasons. And depending on state law, some places you 161 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: can be fired very easily. Some places you need a 162 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: bigger track record for how much you have to document 163 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: them their misbehavior before you can fire them. But in 164 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: any case, yeah, in the private sector, if you're causing 165 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: a problem at work, you're not likely to be there 166 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: very long. And if you're doing a bad job. You're 167 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: not likely to be there very long. And if you're 168 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: radicalizing students, you are doing a bad job. 169 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: Where can people follow the National Rights Work Committee and yourself. 170 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, find us online at www dot NRTWC dot org 171 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: National Right to Work Committee NRTWC. 172 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: All right, everybody. Greg Morad, the VP of Federal Affairs 173 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: for the National Rights to Work Committee. I appreciate sharing 174 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: your insights today and hopefully this never happens again. Thank 175 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: you so much. Hopefully not. Thanks David, all right, you're welcome. 176 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: You know, I want to thank everybody for watching. 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On Sunday, 213 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: I will be in Arizona with the Real America's Voice 214 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: News team for the Charlie Kirk Celebration of Life. It's 215 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: been an incredible week. I spent a few days on 216 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: the ground at the White House while our Chief White 217 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: House correspondent Brian Glenn was with Trump in England. A 218 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: very successful trip. Trump bringing back three hundred and fifty 219 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: billion dollars an investment, a three hundred and fifty billion 220 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: dollar deal between the two countries, the United Kingdom and 221 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: the United States. Another you know, successful Thank for Trump. 222 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Just keeps coming and just wait until basis points at 223 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: one hundred points come down. Interest rates are going to 224 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: come down. My mortgage went down like three hundred dollars 225 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: recently because the prospect of interest rate drops and it's 226 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: going to only get better from there. Not going to 227 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: happen until the FEDS goes another hundred basis points though 228 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: really important so young people buy a house because you 229 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: can't buy a house at six percent, there's no way. 230 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: But I want to get to our next guest right here, 231 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Michael Lets he's the CEO and founder of invest USA, 232 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: supplying and donating bull the profests or law enforcement Welcome. 233 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 6: Michael always approves with you, David. You do so much 234 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 6: for this country. I'm honored to be on your shoe. 235 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate you coming on always and you 236 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: have the you know, you're in the know on law 237 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: enforcement issues. And I wanted to thank you because you 238 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: reached out to me when there was that false salam 239 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: that active campus, you know, active shooter warning at USC 240 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: Colombia a couple of weeks ago. My daughter was petrified 241 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: and she was on the way to the library when 242 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: that happened. Thank god, it was a full salam, right Michael. 243 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 6: Well, it was somebody trying to do either create headlines 244 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 6: or trying to be overly sensitive. But at least I'm 245 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 6: glad we got the facts, see you, David. 246 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it means a lot because after the Charlie Kurt shooting, 247 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: my daughter's like, you know, these kids are traumatized. You 248 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: know they're they're they're very afraid. So I wanted to 249 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: get to this incredible shooting in Yorktown, Pennsylvania for your 250 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: office's dad two wounded. Do you have any updates for us? 251 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about what happened? 252 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 6: Well, it was a response to a domestic stocking call. 253 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 6: Actually there was domestic violence previously, and then there was 254 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 6: a stalking situation. So the teams were sent out and 255 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 6: he was actually waiting for them barred let's just say, 256 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 6: behind obstacles and you know, behind cover and with AR fifteen, 257 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 6: and he took three of them down, took two more 258 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: that are in critical condition. I'm not sure if they're 259 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 6: going to make it or not. They're stable at the moment, 260 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 6: thank god, but they're still struggling for their life. It 261 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 6: just opens up so many issues. One of the things 262 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 6: that's interesting about this, David, that is not being reported 263 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 6: that needs to be said, is the Mexican Counsul put 264 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 6: out a call to its immigrants. We're going to let's 265 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: just use the correct word illegal immigrants in that area. 266 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 6: There's a lot of illegal immigrants in that area. And 267 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 6: the question was, you know, this is a farming operation 268 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 6: and We're not so sure whether the illegal immigrants at 269 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 6: a tie in or not. That's being investigated as we speak, 270 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 6: but it was the biggest. Other tragedy is active shooter 271 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 6: invest David. I know this is what nobody wants to say, 272 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 6: but I'm willing to say it. Active shooter vest would 273 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 6: have made a huge difference in this situation. You know, 274 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 6: the officers are just It's like, we report ninety percent 275 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 6: of cops across the country do not have them. You 276 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 6: still I've had people say, well, I see them, we're 277 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 6: in a vest. That's the vest under their shirt. That's 278 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 6: a concealable list that will stop a sidear them. This 279 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 6: was an AR fifteen and it certainly would not stop 280 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 6: that that five five six round. It's wimple. We went 281 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 6: right through it. Wow. 282 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. And you've you've donated over what sixteen 283 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: thousand bulletproof vests of these types of vests. 284 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 6: That's crazy. That is correct. We've got a long way 285 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 6: to go, but we're still working on it. 286 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 287 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Crazy. You know Trump in d C. Do you have 288 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: any new numbers. I hear that there were only a 289 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: few murders since Trump took control of DC and I 290 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: saw it, like property crime numbers down thirty five percent 291 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: or so. Do you have any updated numbers? 292 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we've only had two shooting, two murders 293 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: since he took he took over, you're going to having 294 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 6: huh wow, like one a day or more than one 295 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 6: a day, two on suit day. Now it's been two 296 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 6: in the last thirty days, which is just an incredible 297 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 6: drop from what we've had in the past. And then 298 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 6: on all fronts it wasn't thirty five percent, it's down 299 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 6: forty now. You know, carjackings are down eighty six percent, 300 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 6: robberies are down seventy two percent, I believe the last 301 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 6: figure that I saw. Wow, So they're all just dramatically 302 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 6: going down. Of course, now there's going to be a 303 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 6: little bit of a shift. What do we mean by that? 304 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 6: You know, it was never the intent to keep National 305 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 6: Guards member in Definitely, it was what we've always says, 306 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 6: train our over over force, what we call you know, 307 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 6: overpowering force, and we brought in the National Guard to 308 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 6: give us that stability to do that so that we 309 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 6: can break crime down. Now the question is going back. 310 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 6: Is it time for us to pull the Guard out 311 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 6: and turn it back to just ship a local law 312 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 6: enforcement There is discussion about hiring additional two or three 313 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: hundred law enforcement officers. Now, I got to tell you 314 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 6: that's easy for them to say, even if they come 315 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 6: up with the money. Yeah, there's such a viewpoint that 316 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 6: what's occurred against law enforcement in the past in DC, 317 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 6: they may find a little bit more difficult to recruit 318 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 6: you or three hundred more additional officers than what they're realizing. 319 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 6: But anyway, the step in the right direction, and if 320 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 6: we head that way, then we may be able to 321 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 6: get it back restored to themalacy again. 322 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: You know what, Let them pull out the National Guard 323 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: and then watch the numbers go back up and then 324 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: don't have to bring them back in until they get 325 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: it right. 326 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: Right. 327 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: You're exactly right, David, Yeah, yeah, you know Memphis, it 328 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: worked so well that you know. 329 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 6: We're going to be spanning. 330 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 4: Now. 331 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 6: Memphis is certainly on the drawing board. They have been 332 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 6: very uh well, their mayor is not very such, but 333 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 6: the people of Memphis are very much resechive. Chicago's begin 334 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 6: to take a little different tune because they can't get 335 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 6: it under control of themselves. New York surprisingly is not 336 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 6: giving overtures about needing some assistance Baltimore reversal Baltimore was exactly, 337 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 6: no way you're going to step foot in my state, 338 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 6: my town. Now they're welcoming. So what they're seeing is 339 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 6: a program that successful working. What you're seeing on the 340 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 6: flip side is the Democrats are trying to find some 341 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 6: way to criticize it. It didn't work too well by 342 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: saying you couldn't do it. It was illegal because the 343 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 6: violation of Tenth Amendment, especially when the President declared a 344 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 6: national emergency due to the crime across the country, that 345 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 6: pretty much eliminated the illegal illegality of bringing in troops 346 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 6: because the Tenth Amendment allows for if there is a 347 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 6: national emergency or if there are any combatants on American soil. 348 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 6: We've got both, you know, we've declared the drug cartails's 349 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 6: enemy combatants. So we've got both provisions covered. And that's 350 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 6: why moving forward, regardless of what they say. 351 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Sure, and Memphis had forty homicides one hundred thousand, it 352 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: was even like eighty percent higher than DC, which was 353 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: still five times New York's murder RaSE, so Memphis has 354 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: its work cut out for him. Really, really crazy, I 355 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: gaggled with Tom Hoban in about thirty seconds because we're 356 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: almost out of time. I asked them, do they have 357 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: any hard numbers on Trump's effect on crime nationwide yet, 358 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: and especially fentanyl deaths anything out there? 359 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 6: Well, yes there are, because the numbered FEDERL is down, 360 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 6: so it will be such a traumatic impact down by 361 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 6: like thirty six thirty seven percent that there now is 362 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 6: a newgro gear manufacturing that's a hundred times more lethal 363 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 6: than federal And so that's the reason why, David, I 364 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 6: don't know, we'll talk about this on a different time. 365 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 6: The President's position has shifted a little bit. We're going 366 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 6: after the source, not just what's in this country. We're 367 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 6: going after the source of where it's coming from. We're 368 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 6: not going to allow them to continue to poison our citizens. 369 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the boats off event as well. All right, 370 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: I think that'll increase. 371 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 6: All right. 372 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much for joining us, Michael. 373 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: Let's really quick. Where can people follow you and where 374 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: can they get involved with your best Take you. 375 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: To our website. I m d E STUSA dot org, 376 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 6: dot what's charity, dot orgy. All those information is available. 377 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 6: Do us all a favored with having loss those officers 378 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: that we lost in Pennsylvania. You see a cop say 379 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 6: thank you for your service. 380 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: All right, Michael, lets I really appreciate that. And you're 381 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: the chaplain for the state of South Carolina law Enforcement. 382 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm always great to have you. We'll see you soon. 383 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 6: God blessed, God bless America. 384 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: David. 385 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: All right, guys, don't go anywhere. We'll be back. 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Really incredible. 433 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: Looks like we're going to have GDBF growth this year. 434 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: That's positive. It's only going to get better when rates 435 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: come down. You know, when builders can borrow money for 436 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: less than six percent, and when someone can buy a 437 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: home for less than five percent, it's got to be 438 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: at that number. Even at six percent, a thirty year 439 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: old kid can't buy a home. They're in debt. You know, 440 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: I bought a home when I was twenty seven. It 441 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: was no problem. But today you have to be thirty five, 442 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: forty years old and you're still paying student loan debt. 443 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: So those rates have to come down, and when they do, 444 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see this economy takeoff like 445 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: a rocket ship. I wanted to talk about nine to eleven. 446 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: I know I played the interviews from nine to eleven 447 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: last week on the show with my interview with Rudy 448 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: Giuliani and with the third or fourth in command that day, 449 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: Richard Rotans, who was in Building seven on the twenty 450 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: third floor, you know, evacuated the building, went back in 451 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: at twelve thirty, got up to the seventh floor and said, 452 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: this building's moving. There were holes two hundred feet in 453 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: length in the building. Burtis were sticking out from the 454 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: side of the building here in a ten to thirteenth 455 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: flor and said, we got to get out of here. 456 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: They knew it was going to collapse class by five thirty. 457 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: So I want to get to some man on the 458 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: Street interviews that I did with the great people from 459 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: around the country who come every year to celebrate or 460 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: to remember the fallen friends, brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles 461 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: and just classmates. You know, I got some great stuff 462 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: for you. Check out Freddie d lach Cruz from Fayetteville, 463 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Roger Farina from North Carolina as well. These 464 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: guys are great. The twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven, 465 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: we're here at ground zero. We have so many special 466 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: people down there, people the lost loved ones, family members, brothers, fathers, sisters, 467 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: mothers and kids. 468 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 5: Freddie de la Cruz, how are you. 469 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 8: I'm doing well. Thank you for asking. 470 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 5: Dave tell us his story. Why are you down here 471 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 5: at ground zero? 472 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 9: Well, you know, you know in two thousand and one, 473 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 9: my sister Lilian Caseras, she was on the ninety seventh 474 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 9: floor of the North Tower when the first plane hit 475 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 9: and unfortunately we were never able to bring him her 476 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 9: remains back she passed. 477 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 5: Was she was with marsh mcclennan, right, yes, sir, yes, sir. 478 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: Was she able to make any calls out before the 479 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 5: building's collapsed or anything? 480 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 8: No, no, nothing like that. 481 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 5: But wow, was how old was she? 482 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 8: She was forty seven years old. 483 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: Wow, so young, unbelievable. So you got something else interesting 484 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: going on. I know you're spending the day here at 485 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, but at Real America's Voice News we 486 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: cover I've been in thirty eight states following the Trump campaign, 487 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: and every blue city I go to what's problems? And 488 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: I particularly called out a year ago yesterday in Charlotte, 489 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina, the increased homicide rates in Charlotte. But I 490 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: went to Asheville to follow Trump and what a dump 491 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: and the homeless people were swept out of the city 492 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: to make it cosmetically clean, right, and the drug abuse 493 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: and the crime and the defund the police. But Fairfield 494 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: also I've covered very poverty stricken in a way, and 495 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: a higher crime rate than the rest of the estate. 496 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: Right. 497 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 9: Yes, Unfortunately, Fayville has a high mart murder rate. That's 498 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 9: without question. The crime rate is high. However, the city 499 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 9: is managing to reduce that level, Okay. And I believe 500 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 9: that my experience as a former military police officer for 501 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 9: twenty eight years. 502 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 5: I'm a retired Army lieutenant colonel. 503 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 9: I can help, you know, because I am running for 504 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 9: mayor Fayetville, and I believe as a mayor mayor candidate, 505 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 9: I can run and help the city with the crime rate. 506 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 6: That we have. 507 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: Any place that has military base around at the incomes 508 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: aren't high, you're always gonna have a little bit of 509 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: a higher crime rate. 510 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, to a degree. But you know that's 511 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 5: the story across from North Carolina. 512 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 3: Right. 513 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: What do they have in common? Are Is it that 514 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 5: they're all blue cities? 515 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 8: Well, that's a factor in the equation. 516 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 9: As you know, a lot of the Democrat run cities 517 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 9: have a high crime rate. 518 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 5: How about what did you think about the light rail 519 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 5: murder and Charlotte, Oh, oh. 520 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 8: Mean that was that was devastating, you know, that was that? 521 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 8: That is devastating. 522 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 9: Okay, had the situation been reversed, and I'm not afraid 523 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 9: to say, it would be all over the news, it 524 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 9: would be another George. They would have, it would be 525 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 9: another George Floyd. 526 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 5: Said, if they didn't have cacialist ball. 527 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 528 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's another problem that we even got that in Fayev. 529 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 9: We got to catch a release policy that we've got 530 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 9: to get a stranglehold on it. Ladies and gentlemen. My 531 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 9: philosophy is this, you do the crime, you do the time. 532 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 9: When you get out, you start over. 533 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: That's it. 534 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 9: You do it again. You go in longer, you pay more, 535 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 9: you finish that, you come out, you start over. All right, Okay, 536 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 9: we cannot lit our criminals off easily. That's a problem. 537 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 9: And one last thing I want to say coming up here. 538 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 9: You know, we found out that Charlie Kirk Okay was murdered. 539 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 9: Why because he was expressing his freedom of speech, which 540 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 9: is which is a terrible way to have. 541 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: To be assassinated. 542 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 5: Terrible read. 543 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 9: He never poted, he never and I got people questioning 544 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 9: me right on my Facebook because I'm running for mayor 545 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 9: candidate in Fayville. 546 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 8: Who in the hell is Charlie Kirk. Well, let me 547 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 8: tell you who Charlie Kirk is. 548 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 9: Charlie Kirk to a lot of people, is equivalent to 549 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 9: JFK M l K. Now we got c JK. So 550 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 9: put that in perspective, folks, Okay, c j K. 551 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 5: James Kirk, Freddie de la Cruz. 552 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: I want to thank you. You know, I know it's 553 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: heart took a by nine to eleven. You lost the 554 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: loved one in politics. But it's all related in a way, 555 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: isn't it. 556 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 9: Yes, it is. I mean, you know my sister Lily, 557 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 9: she passed twenty four years ago. I know where she's at. 558 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 9: She's saved, she accepted Jesus Christ as her savior. I 559 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 9: know where my sister is, and when I die, I 560 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 9: know I'm going to meet her again. But Charlie Kirk, 561 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 9: God bless Erica, his wife and their children and their family. 562 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 5: God bless them all right, God bless the Freddie de 563 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: la Cruz. I want to thank you so much and 564 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 5: thank you for your service. Thank you, sir. 565 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: All right down here at ground zero. We have Roger Fariner. 566 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: I interviewed you. 567 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 5: At the r n C last year in Milwaukee. What 568 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 5: brought you to New York today? 569 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 10: Well, I'm originally from Long Island and I've never I'm 570 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 10: a retired warrant officer from the Army, and I've never 571 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 10: been able to come to one of the memorial ceremonies. 572 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 10: I went to a high school on Long Island and 573 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 10: there is a which one Saint Agnes is one. 574 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 5: I graduated first. I played them in baseball. We beat them. 575 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, with the girl that sat in front of me 576 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 10: in high school and homeroom, she was in one of 577 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 10: the towers that you know, that's that's the. 578 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 5: Closest person that I had to pay your respects, you know. 579 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 10: And you know I have a lot of friends and 580 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 10: you know they were cops and stuff like that that 581 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 10: were in there too, But that's probably the closest. 582 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 5: Now, you were in Iraqi Freedom, you were in Desert Storm. 583 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 10: Yes, I was a Cobra pilot and a short pilot. 584 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 10: I fired my first toe into a bunker in Iraq 585 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 10: in nineteen ninety one. So say, yeah, so wow, But 586 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 10: I came here because, like I said, that's I've never 587 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 10: been to this ceremony before. Twenty four years ago. I 588 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 10: stationed in Germany and we were getting ready to go 589 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 10: fly that night, and I was on the way into 590 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 10: into the h to the to fly to the hangar, 591 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 10: and we were listening to AFN radio and the first, 592 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 10: the first report that I heard was a small plane 593 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 10: hit one of the towers. And you know, if being 594 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 10: from New York, you know that there. 595 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 5: Was a plane that hit. 596 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 10: It was late afternoon there right right right, it was 597 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 10: about three o'clock or so, and you know, you know, 598 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 10: we heard stories about you know that that beef bee 599 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 10: bomber hit the Empire State Building. 600 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 6: So it's no. 601 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 5: B twenty five Mitchell hit the Empire State So it's 602 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: no big deal. 603 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 10: But then by the time I got into the hangar, 604 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 10: everybody was glued to the TV. All the flights were 605 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 10: canceled and that that was like my moment, Where where 606 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 10: were you when this happened? 607 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 5: And that's where I was. And then a couple of 608 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 5: weeks after that, you know, we were. 609 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in Hamburg, Germany, Muhammad Atta rented an apartment 610 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: building with twenty nine leases and he was bringing together 611 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: the whole team of hijackers there that we didn't know 612 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: about at. 613 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: The time exactly. 614 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 10: And we were deployed around Europe to certain different places 615 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 10: because they from what I was told that these were 616 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 10: some of the places where they had their cells, and 617 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 10: we went into Czech and stuff like that, and yeah, 618 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 10: they were doing their training. 619 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 5: Wow, it's extraordinary. What an incredible story. On a side note, 620 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 5: you're also the GOP chair for what Lee County in North. 621 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 10: Carolina in the thirteen Congressional district chair for North Carolina. 622 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 10: I support Brad not to you know, he's a freshman. 623 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 10: He's doing a great job for us. He's a former 624 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 10: federal prosecutor and he's in d C. And he and 625 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 10: he's kicking but for us there. 626 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, how does it make you feel when you 627 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: hear about the light rail murder, guys out on cashle 628 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: spell mental health issues? 629 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 10: It's atrocians Like I was listening listening to Megan Kelly 630 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 10: yesterday and she was talking about the DA, the agent, 631 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 10: the attorney general, and the governor in North Carolina. Well, 632 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 10: don't forget this that Josh Stein who's our governor right now, 633 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 10: was also the attorney general beforehand, and he could have 634 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 10: been putting in laws and holding these people and I 635 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 10: haven't heard that before. 636 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 5: Okay, and Cooper and couldn't do anything, you. 637 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 10: Know, and now Cooper's up, you know, and and it's 638 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 10: just it's atrocious what happened. I mean, I mean, it's 639 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 10: like in North Carolina, we just dealt with that. And 640 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 10: now as a conservative, I support Charlie Kirk and I 641 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 10: pray for his family and stuff like that. And for 642 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 10: this to happen so close together, for the grassroots people 643 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 10: that I'm connected with are are are mad, they're they're 644 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 10: upset the cities. 645 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: And because all the council seats in Charlotte, like eleven 646 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: of them are Democrats. 647 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 5: There's no Republicans. 648 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, and so all these cities that all 649 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 10: these things are happening in, they're blue always, you know. 650 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 10: And and unfortunately, when we when we rise our voices 651 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 10: up from on the red side of for conservative Christian values, 652 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 10: you know, we're always put down because you know, you're this, 653 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 10: you're racist, you're this, you're that, you're the other. 654 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: Well, mag is all about that good people are tired 655 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: of being told they're the bad people. Yeah, I wanted 656 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: to ask you give a message out to our audience. 657 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: Your thoughts about nine to eleven down here ground zero? 658 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 5: How was your first trip here? 659 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 10: What I noticed was like walking around, it was very 660 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 10: quiet today. I grew up in New York City. I 661 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 10: used to go to Studio fifty four when I was 662 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 10: a teenager. You know, and you know, there's always a 663 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 10: lot of noise. There's sirens always going off. Not not 664 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 10: connected with nine to eleven, but just sirens and noise 665 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 10: and just energy and as and when I got off 666 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 10: the subway and I was getting closer and closer, there 667 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 10: was just a somber, a somber calm. 668 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 5: All the firemen are here. 669 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: We've got a annual gathering place for the firemen in 670 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: the families. 671 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 10: We've seen firemen from Los Angeles. I see fire Yeah, 672 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 10: just incredible. Yeah, it is amazing. 673 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 5: Next, you're you've been. 674 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 10: Standing here for a couple of hours. 675 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: How's your day bed being here? 676 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: How's my day? 677 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? 678 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I lost my very good friend, Peter 679 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: Brandon and Rescue four in the seventy fourth floor. 680 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: Going up in Tower two. 681 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: My sister lost eighty one clients, My sister in law 682 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: lost their fiance. My whole family was brothers and fathers 683 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: and sisters, and my wife's whole family served down here, 684 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: ran the Morgue Joint Terrorism Task Force FDN Y Police Department, 685 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: so it affected everybody in New York. It's a one, two, three, four, five, 686 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: six degrees of separation. It's on all levels right right, 687 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: so it's very moving. 688 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: I would right. 689 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 10: It's next to Latter ten, Engine ten. 690 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: That today lost three guys in the building collapse right here, 691 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: Engine ten, Latter ten. Roger Freen, I want to thank 692 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, all right, appreciate it. 693 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Breaking Point on Real 694 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: America's Voice News. Welcome back to the show. I have 695 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: one more interview from our coverage at ground zero. Mike Terrino, 696 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: volunteer firefighter from East Haven, Connecticut, spent about a month 697 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: in the pile looking for survivors and the remains of 698 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: the fallen on nine to eleven. These people are just 699 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: the best. It's a beautiful day here down to ground zero, 700 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: just like on nine to eleven in two thousand and one, 701 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: and the bravest and the best came here to help 702 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: the first responders, four hundred and ten thousand of them. 703 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 5: We have Mike Terrino with us from the East Haven 704 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: Fire Department in Connecticut. 705 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: That's right, yes, sir, all right, tell us about your 706 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: experience and how did you get down here. 707 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 11: We were working that day and we saw what happened, 708 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 11: and our chief said, Hey, if there's anybody who wants 709 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 11: to go down to help out with FDA and why 710 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 11: and help out in the rescue mission. 711 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 8: We just put a group together that came down and 712 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 8: tried to get airt on the bile. 713 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 5: What day did you get here? 714 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 8: I was here in the morning of September twelfth. 715 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 5: And how long did you spend in the pile? 716 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 8: Spend thirty days? 717 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 5: What was your biggest takeaway when you first arrived. 718 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 11: Just that it was such an normanity. It was like 719 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 11: a third world country. It was unbelievable to think. 720 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 5: That debris field exactly. 721 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 11: And the fact that we had brothers and sisters from 722 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 11: FD and y NYPD Port Authority that were buried under 723 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 11: that rubbel civilians. 724 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 8: It just was hard to believe. 725 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, incredible day. 726 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: I was telling you, I spent day three down there 727 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: watching the fire departments come out of it and that 728 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: blank stare. All over the world fire departments came from 729 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: in the country and they just knew there were no survivors. 730 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, it was you know, you hoped and you 731 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 11: wanted to dig through the rubble to find somebody that 732 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 11: was alive. 733 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 8: But as you dug and dug and you spent more time. 734 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 5: That just did you lose anybody close to you? 735 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 4: Eleven? 736 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 11: You know, Patty Brown from FDN Y was a family friend. 737 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 11: But that was the only person that I knew in 738 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 11: the whole you know, incident down here. But uh, just 739 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 11: you felt it. You felt that when you were down here. 740 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 5: When you do you know, anybody got sick from the cleanup? 741 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 6: Uh? 742 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. 743 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 8: There's a few people from the group that we. 744 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 11: Met and hung out with after the last twenty four 745 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 11: years that have been died of cancer suicide. 746 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, forty three hundred have died on top of the 747 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: twenty seven hundred that died here that day, since nine 748 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: to eleven, exactly. 749 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, so many people. People don't realize that the effect 750 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 11: of it is far and wide. It just wasn't that day. 751 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 11: It's what you dealt with and what you dealt with 752 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 11: physiologically psychologically after that. 753 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 5: Wow. 754 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: All right, Mike, it's really nice to meet you. I 755 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: want to thank you so much for coming on. I'm 756 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: so honored that Real America's Voice News has given me 757 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: the opportunity to cover the White House, you know, when 758 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: Brian Glenn isn't there, our chief White House correspondent, either 759 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 1: on the road or somewhere else, you know, with Trump. 760 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: But this week was really something else. It was quiet, right, 761 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, they hit these sirens 762 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: blaring on the street. I thought it was emergency service vehicles. 763 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: It was like the loudest thing you ever heard. It 764 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: was kind of like sitting in front of you know, 765 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: not too close, like an F sixteen, you know, turbofan 766 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: or something. 767 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 4: It was. 768 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: It was incredible, these sirens coming, and I went outside 769 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: and it was a pro hamas Empty Israel protest outside 770 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: the White House right on the other side in Lafayette Park. 771 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: So the Secret Service can't really do anything about unless 772 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: against violent. But it was so loud it was damaging 773 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: to your ears. My ears still hurt. It's a day 774 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: or two later. 775 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: At this point. 776 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: It's really just incredible what these people are doing and 777 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: getting away without there. The DC police wouldn't come. I 778 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: looked that at as a public health issue, and all 779 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: those Secret Service agents that were out front of the 780 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: White House. They had that blaring athem, these bullhorn sirens. 781 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 4: Check this out. 782 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: They're pouring fake blood on the street. And it's their 783 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: right to protest. You know, I tried to engage them 784 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: in some civil dialogue. 785 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 5: Watch this. 786 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 4: Do you have a name of your organization or okay 787 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 4: to names here? Yeah? So what what are you hoping 788 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 4: to accomplish? 789 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 8: The reason the way there's no one's children should become. 790 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 4: Wouldn't the conflict end if the hostages we're just giving back. 791 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: I means from your perspective, and I says that you 792 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: believe there's a wise man all lives now. 793 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 4: Don't think child? You tell me about hers atures? Pretty 794 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 4: jelous matter who told him about how one should be 795 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 4: as apologist? Okay, I'm all right. I'm engaging in dialogue 796 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 4: with yet that's it. 797 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 10: I'm not interested. 798 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 4: I'm not being mean to you or anything. 799 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 12: You're not at all. 800 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: You just take your family line you used to. 801 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 4: Okay, you got yours in my face actually having your. 802 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: Close first, because I keep a document what you're doing. 803 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 4: I just wanted to ask you believe were close to 804 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 4: someone's name. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm three 805 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 4: feet away. It's okay. 806 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 8: Sure, I'm three things away trying to talk to us 807 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 8: about whether or not. 808 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 4: No, I'm in the media and I'm just covering what 809 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 4: you're doing, all right, And you've been here with news 810 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 4: any so I cover the White House. I'm not allowed 811 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 4: to be here? Are you allowed to be here? Everyone 812 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 4: is okay. Yeah, I've got a really bad attitude. 813 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 5: It's terrible. 814 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 4: No, I'm just okay. I'm engaging in civil dialogue with you. 815 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 4: You're clearly you're with an agenda. Am saying I'm provoking you, 816 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 4: and nobody's provoking. 817 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 9: You're an agendamotive sir, and your name is David and 818 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 9: you don't have an agrena governor phone number now on caron, Okay, 819 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 9: you don't have an agenda. 820 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 4: I'm you have an agenda. You want? 821 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 5: You want Israel out of gasm, right. 822 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 8: We look Achilles? 823 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: You can you read the signs here? 824 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? How's that one say? 825 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 5: Can you read a god? 826 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 827 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 5: Read it? 828 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 4: There you go? 829 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 8: Can you read it out loud? 830 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to read it out loud? But you're 831 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 4: asking what I said. It's on film? 832 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 8: Do you do you see what the shirt says? 833 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 4: Why do you have a problem with the media filming out? 834 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 4: I don't if you're out here in public, you want 835 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 4: the media's attention. Obn. This so manipulation. That's a manipulation 836 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 4: me asking you you want media attention. You're making a 837 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 4: statements so you don't want media attention. But you're out 838 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 4: here in public, in front of the White House. 839 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 5: There you are. 840 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 4: Okay, you're trying to offer you but it's not working service. 841 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 6: Not doing anything. 842 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 4: Thanks, not doing anything? 843 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking for an intelligent conversation. 844 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 5: You're actually not. 845 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 2: You're looking to beat someone into it. 846 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 4: Nobody's banning out. You just acknowledged during the media. Your 847 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 4: job is to try to bat answer. Don't tell me 848 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 4: what my job is. I'm pretty sure that the media okay, okay, 849 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 4: my job is to cover what's going on in the public. 850 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 12: Are you in Washington? 851 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 8: Did you see volume? 852 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 4: Sir? Okay, So I'm not allowed to talk to you 853 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 4: about it. Talk to whoever you want. 854 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 8: I have to answer. I asked you a question. 855 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 4: I never said you had to. Did I say you 856 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 4: have to? 857 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 8: You sure didn't. 858 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 4: Okay, that's you. I don't know why I'm aren't capable 859 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 4: of engaging in a civil dialogue about it. Why you're 860 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 4: out here? How about focusing on why you're out here? 861 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 7: Thank you? 862 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 8: Say? 863 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 4: If the hostages were released, what on the war end? 864 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 4: Have the Big Day said? What on the war end? 865 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 5: We know the Lakes throught the war. 866 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 7: It's an ethnic wenday and it's an occupation. 867 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 4: Look at what's happening. But they're in there because they 868 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 4: want the hostage. 869 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 8: Or what are the settlers doing in the West Bank? 870 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 4: Okay, what Israeli statellers doing High Bank? That's another broader issue. 871 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: But the incursion into Gaza is to get the hostages back, right. 872 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 4: I've been underseage for seventeen years before. Every single Israellies 873 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 4: have been under siege by Hamas. You don't think innocent 874 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 4: Israelies have been killed by Hamas. 875 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: That woman who confronted me, you know she was given 876 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: everyone direction and we had a stand and everything. It's 877 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: so non organic. The Maga movement is organic. This wasn't 878 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: I wonder how much she was getting aid to run 879 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: that protest there. But now I want to get to 880 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: the John F. Kennedy Center vigil last Sunday I had 881 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 1: the opportunity to cover that with Rav and Steve Bannon 882 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: and the great Ben Berkwam people everywhere. The lines were out, 883 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: the door wrapped around the corner, and it was just 884 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: planned forty eight hours before. They packed the house with 885 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: over three thousand people responding. Only twenty five twenty six 886 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: hundred could get in. But I did some quick interviews 887 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: with people on the ground there. Kennedy Center is a 888 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,479 Speaker 1: beautiful place, and you know, I'm so tired of hearing 889 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: like you know, Bob Streissan and Bruce Springs and all 890 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: these leftists bash America or bash Reagan there. It's thank 891 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: god it's in Trum's hands right now. But watch these 892 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: great people. 893 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 5: We're on the overflow line, people waiting to get in. 894 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: They're filling seats up inside the concert hall, County Center, 895 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: full house. 896 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 5: What's your name is Dave Wallace? 897 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 4: Hi, Dave? 898 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 5: Where'd you come from today? 899 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 13: I came west of Baltimore in Carroll County, the bashion 900 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 13: of conservatism in all of Maryland, and we're fighting for 901 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 13: conservative values and we are so heartbroken over Charlie. 902 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: Now, you have children. 903 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 13: I have three children. One of them was corrupted by 904 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 13: our left wing institutions. But she's moderate, She's not as 905 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 13: conservative as me. But she still understands American values, American traditions, 906 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 13: She understands Western civilism. 907 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen somebody so young, a guy like 908 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk have so much impact on so many lives 909 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: on planet Earth? 910 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 13: Only a guy two years older. 911 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, that's true. And Alexander the Great. 912 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 13: Those are the two people that I associate with. 913 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk. 914 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: Highly, Anne, you're waiting to get inside. You're part of 915 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: the overflow. Big turnout tonight for Charlie Kirk. 916 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 12: Right, absolutely, thouands of thousands of people. 917 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 5: Now you're from my home turf, you're from Long Island, 918 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 5: New York. Why did you make the trip down here? 919 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 12: I was actually here visiting for taking care of my 920 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 12: daughter's puppy, so and I heard about it and couldn't. 921 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 8: Not to come to come. 922 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 5: How did it affect you and your family? 923 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 12: Lots of tears and just me and he's done so 924 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 12: much and I mean my husband's home and just we're back. 925 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 8: On forth on the show. 926 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: We were talking to Steve Bannon earlier and about the 927 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: organic nature of the uh. 928 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 5: You know, all these tributes to Charlie Kirk, right, especially 929 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 5: on Long Island, right, yep for sure. 930 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 1: What is your big takeaway from Charlie Kirk's death and 931 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: how do we move forward as a nation. 932 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 12: I think that we need to be bold. I think 933 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 12: that we need to stand up and say what we 934 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 12: feel and how we feel and why we feel, and 935 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 12: that Jesus's Lord, and that everybody just needs to get 936 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 12: on board and the country needs to come back to. 937 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 5: Being a Christian nation. Right, Leanne, thank you so much, 938 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 5: very moving and how happy you showed up. 939 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 12: I'm so glad I'm here all right. 940 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, wonderfully. 941 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for joining the Rap family 942 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: and watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. 943 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 5: See you next time.