1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Buzz night and welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: And this is another episode of this Week in Music History. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: We turned to our right. I don't see him over there. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I turned to my left. No, he's not there. He's 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: right in front of me. He's at the music History disc. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: He's Harry Jacobs. Welcome Harry. It's nice to see you again. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: Happy to be here, buzz another great week from music 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: history and happy to contribute a little something to the cost. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: And this is the week of October twenty seventh, or 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: as we used to say in our programming, heyday. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna say, October rocked home. I 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: was sitting with a bunch of guys a couple. 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Of weeks ago and. 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: We were talking about something that I said, well during October, 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: and one of the guys was a music not looked 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: at me and laughing, He's like, I remember October. 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember. 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Well. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Listen. My fondest memory of October wasn't as as a programmer. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: My fondest memory of October was as a as a 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: DJ at one O two seven W and e WFM, 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: because that station blew up October interesting. I think we 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: gave away one October the radio station gave away a 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Porsche day Wow. Really yeah, wow. 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: You know that that's one of those things that starts somewhere, 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: you know, someone, you know, someone with a brain like 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: Fred Jacobs says, you know, I'm going to invent something. 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to change the name of October to October. 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: And then every rock station in every market, you know, 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: one rock station at least in every market, turns around 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: and says, I need October my station. 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'll give my friend and former boss Charlie Kendall 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the credit, because Charlie's view of the world was always 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: and probably still is to this day. I'm sure because 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: that's Charlie. If we're going to do it, we're going 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: to do it bigger and more badass than anybody else. 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: So that's how an e W did it. In fact, 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: what was also part of October It was something called 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: the Shootout at the hard Rock Cafe that Scott Muni hosted, 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: and this was a who's Who event of him broadcasting 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: his afternoon drive show from the hard Rock and one 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: really wild memory I remember walking in to go to 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: the event to see Scott, you know, at one of 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: the shows, and who's walking in behind me together. They're 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: not with each other, but they're walking in oddest combination 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: of people, Billy Joel and Frank Zappa walking in. 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Oh, that is an odd I was gonna say, like 48 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: Phil Donahue and Ozzie Osborne. 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: Like, you know, Bill, Billy Joel and Frank Zappa. Yeah, 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: that's odd, that's odd. 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that really is well October and you mentioned Charlie Kendall. 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: His name came up on a thread with a guy 53 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: named Dave Van Dyke. You know, Dave van Dyke. Sure, 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: I love Dave van Dyke. Dave van Dyke lives down 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: the street. He and I are going to get together 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: and smoke a cigar. But Charlie Kendall popped up in 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: a thread on something. I thought, Oh, Charlie Kendall. He 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: what a great voice. Charlie Kendall. 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Charlie. 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: Week of October twenty seventh Buzz. In twenty thirteen, we 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: lost Lou Reed at seventy one. This guy was a 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: little disclaimer. I was never a huge Lou Reed fan, 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: but he was a very influential figure for not only 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: punk music but just the music scene in general, especially 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: in New York. 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Big New York big ANYW artist, big big New York aura. 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: I appreciated him differently years later, and this was, you know, 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: kind of watching collaborations he did with his wife, you 69 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: know who was his wife? Is remind me the avant 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: garde Lorie Anderson, really experimental artist. 71 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm drawing a blame, yeah, But so I started appreciating 72 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: him differently in his later years. 73 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: In fact, one song which I think, you know, I 74 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna queue it up at some point soon. 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: Remember Dirty Boulevard? Oh yeah, good tune. What about Sweet Jane? 76 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Well sweet Jane was you know what was really cool 77 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: about Sweet Jane? At least we thought there was a 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: line in there that was sort of making reference to 79 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: any W. Remember I had listened to the song on 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: the New York station. You know, I think we thought, 81 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: even though there was nothing to you know, validate that, 82 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: we thought it was about any W. It probably wasn't. 83 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: By the way, do you think anyone ever asked him 84 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: about that in an interview? 85 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, because he could be persnicketty too. Oh yeah, yeah, 86 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: he did not have it. 87 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: But he was not the affable, you know, fun He 88 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: wasn't the Tom Hanks of the music industry. 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: I got an interview. I'm going to see if I 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: can go find a copy of it. Maybe maybe I'll 91 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: bring it out on another episode to share a clip 92 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: of it. I think it's a great idea. 93 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: October twenty eighth, nineteen seventy two, Steely Dan released the 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: single do It Again and and This You Know. First 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: of all, the album was you Know Something Else. It 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: was so different musically. They were so different musically when 97 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: you think about the different sound, especially. 98 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: In that song here Now and there's so much going on. 99 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: There's like some. 100 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: Jazz and kind of fusion and rock and the rhythmic 101 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: you know, drums. It was just a very different That 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: song in particular was very different. 103 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: But they were just so different. Oh God, Yeah, I 104 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: love them, love them. The song ended up getting to 105 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: number six. 106 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: It was one of those songs that the top forty 107 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: stations played as well as the rock stations. 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Sure it truly crossed over you right. 109 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: I had no idea that what that song was about 110 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: until I was doing the research for This Week Songs. 111 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: Basically a song that Fagan wrote. It's an autobiographical kind 112 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: of song about self destructive behavior. Go back Jack, do 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: It again, Like you didn't learn the first time, you 114 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: didn't learn the second time, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, 115 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: here we go, You're gonna just do it again. Which 116 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: I always find interesting to see after the fact, songs that. 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: You maybe have your own meaning. 118 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: For in your head, they mean something to you, but 119 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: then you hear what the artist, fact that the. 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: Artist even revealed. It is always interesting as well. Yeah, 121 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: because they all don't you know, these guys were the 122 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: original yacht rock guys. This is where I this is 123 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: where I pushed back, even though I know they were 124 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: part of the documentary in a brilliant way, the yacht 125 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: rock documentary, But I don't think of them that way. 126 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: I think lyrically and I think musically, and I think 127 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: what you said about them, which is you can't to 128 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: this day compare their sound to anything else. It's them. 129 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: It's their sound. They were constantly, you know, layering different 130 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: inventions every time, different groups of musicians every time. The 131 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: fact that the fact that David Palmer started out on 132 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: the first album and then suddenly goes off into obscurity 133 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: after singing on hits. 134 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Right, this was the there were no real celebs at 135 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: this point on the first album in terms of studio musicians. 136 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: But but Skunk Baxter, who was on this podcast, was 137 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: on that it was on that song. 138 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: And was on that album. Absolutely a member from the beginning. Celia, yep. 139 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: But I pushed back on the yacht rock thing only 140 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: because I'm a big Steely Damn fan. And even though 141 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: they are part of that let's say packaging, which yacht 142 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: rock is, and those that didn't know the story that 143 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: I think is hysterical. How they're in that documentary. Oh yeah, 144 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: I guess their manager, the Great Irving A's Off told 145 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the director, Yeah, you're gonna hear from from him. You'll 146 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: get a hold of Donald Fagan, and he's for the documentary, 147 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: and so he was promised it, and I think six 148 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: days later he finally gets Fagan on the phone to 149 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: ask the question, I love this, I just love this. 150 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: He gets the big fu literally, yeah, oh yeah, I 151 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: love it. It's the best, Like, Oh, you're gonna hear 152 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: from him, Irving, Yeah, you'll hear from him. He wants 153 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: to talk to you from Oh boy, oh man, there 154 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: there's some stuff out there. If you're a Steely Dan fan, 155 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: you probably have seen it. But there are some behind 156 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: the scenes making of certain albums that are out there. 157 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,479 Speaker 2: Asia is one and protective, and it's just so fascinating 158 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: to me to listen to it and to have it 159 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: dissected and to realize how utterly complex the music is, 160 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: especially as someone who plays a little guitar. I hear 161 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: stuff like that, I hear the leads, I hear what 162 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: they're doing are the keyboards, And I have a little 163 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: musical sensibility to me, and and this is so far 164 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: over most people hats I. 165 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: Just thought lyrically musically, they constantly were trying to do 166 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: different things, top themselves, whatever you want to call it. 167 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: That there was always a new way to be wowed 168 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: by them. Now I will say I must say I 169 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: sound like Ed Grimley a little bit. Remember they were 170 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: never on the road, and then suddenly in early nineties 171 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: they're playing at Great Woods. 172 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: So I say to money buddy, it's funny that you 173 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: said that, because I was thinking great Woods too. 174 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: And so my buddy from Connecticut college friend and we 175 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: worked together at the radio station nine ninety five, Al 176 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Taka al Al came up and we were like, we're 177 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: going to see Steely Dan. Big fans, right, So we 178 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: go to the show. Snoozer, Yeah, Snoezer show. Yeah, it was. 179 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: It was. I don't know what we were expecting. I 180 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: wasn't expecting fireworks, but I was expecting something a little 181 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: bit more engaging snoozer of a show. But it didn't 182 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: change my opinion of the band. I still continue to 183 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: this day. They hold a special place in my heart. 184 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: When you go see Steely Dan, you're not you have 185 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: to be resign to the fact that you're not going 186 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: to see a rock show and and and of course 187 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: the band isn't the band you know completely anymore. But 188 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: you're you're seeing music nerds be music nerds, and they're 189 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: brilliant music nerds. But these are not guys that are 190 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: comfortable being rock stars. They're just not right and and 191 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: they never were. So they're players. They're players, and there's 192 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: nothing entertaining necessarily about them personality wise at the show 193 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: because I saw them. I may have even been at 194 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Great Woods, but I saw him around that time too, 195 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: and I was really excited for it. 196 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what I wanted to get out of it. 197 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: But if you're looking to go see a rock show 198 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: with some compelling lead singer, you know, artists that's a personality. 199 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: You know, you're not gonna you're not gonna get that 200 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: in a Seely Dan show, but you're going to get 201 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: amazing music, beautiful arrangements and really talented players. 202 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: Amazingly talented. Now, did you ever read the book Nightfly, 203 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: The Life of Steven Dan's Donald Flip Fagan? Did not? 204 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: That's a that'll give you a taste of the tortured 205 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: artist known as Donald. 206 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: These guys that are really really good at their craft, 207 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, they torture themselves. 208 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a it's a tough way to be, 209 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: but it makes them great. Yeah. Yeah, Well they hold 210 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: a special special place for me for sure. 211 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: October twenty ninth, nineteen seventy one, Dwayne Alman passed away 212 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: at twenty four. Guitar legend with his brother Greg and 213 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: the Almond Brothers, with Eric Clapton in Derek and the 214 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: Domino's and just a legendary player. And he was riding 215 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: his Harley Davidson Sportster down the road and crash. 216 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: Now, you and I have had this conversation before the 217 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Pop Quiz Pop Quiz. 218 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: I've given you the answer to this question already, probably 219 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: six months ago. 220 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Maybe coming up on a year. 221 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: You know, you hear that the album Eat a Peach, 222 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: which was released after his death. As matter of fact, 223 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: they were working on it during that time. They called 224 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: it Eat a Peach because he had an accident on 225 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: his Harley Davidson sportster with a peach truck. 226 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: Is this true or false? I believe it's true. Bus. 227 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to stay after class. Now, this is something. 228 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: You know, he crashed into a flatbed truck and making Georgia. 229 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: You're in detention. You know this. 230 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: I gave you this information. This is like an open book, 231 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: but it's six months old. But it's open book. 232 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's happened in six months. 233 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't kidding. So he he crashed into a 234 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: flatbed truck. And I don't know how many folks we 235 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: have that are motorcycle riders. I've been riding for thirty 236 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: five or for more years, and we have a saying 237 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: in the motorcycle world, it's always the left turns that 238 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: get you. It's always someone making a left turn in 239 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: front of you, either in your lane or in opposing traffic, 240 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: because they cut you off, especially the people that are 241 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: coming across the left lane in front of you. It's 242 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: always the left lanes that'll kill you. And that's what 243 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: killed Dwayne Almon was a left one left turn from 244 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: a flatbed truck and making huge loss loss. October thirty first, 245 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five, Little rabbit Hole. On this one, Queen 246 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: released Bohemian Rhapsody. This thing was epic on so many levels. 247 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Think about the operatic sound. Think about the fact that 248 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: the video which is famous, of those guys in that 249 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: black you know, they just their faces are there. Yeah, 250 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: the video that was done, That was done years before MTV. 251 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: It took them like four hours or something and the 252 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: equivalent at that point in time of like five grand 253 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: to make it. But that video would set the stage 254 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: for what would be to come, you know, seven years later, 255 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: eight years later with MTV. The entire album I'm sorry, 256 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: the entire song rather was written and arranged by Freddy 257 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: so many different But you're talking about the complexity of 258 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Steely Dan, you know, with their music. Bohemian Rhapsody is 259 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: one unto itself. It's like number one of one. There 260 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: are no other songs as complicated with that many changes 261 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: that I can think of. There's only one other song 262 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: that was really really complex, and it wasn't that way 263 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: for instrumentation. It was more vocally and that was I'm 264 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: Not in Love by tencc. Wow, And it's a beautiful song. 265 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: There's a video on the making of it and how 266 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: they recorded it and how there's no real there's a 267 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: little light acoustic guitar in it, but it's all tracks, 268 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: it's all people making sounds, and it's layered. 269 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: I have a question from the back. I have a 270 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: question from the back of the room. 271 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: You were in the front of the room before you 272 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: got the Dwayne Allmond thing wrong. I got relegated to 273 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: the back go ahead. 274 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Is it true recently in the last month that for 275 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: the first time with the remaining men members of Queen, 276 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: that that song was done truly in an opera setting. 277 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: Did you hear this? No? I did not hear boy, 278 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: that would be something else, I believe, for the first 279 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: and only time once again in the last month. We'll 280 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: have to look this up. It was a big event 281 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: across the pond, and I was surprised that it had 282 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: never it had never. 283 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: Happened, given the amount of people that have played with 284 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: symphony orchestras. 285 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking this up right now if you want to 286 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: look at Claude since they've been a sponsor as well, 287 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: Claude dot AI right now, see what I swear I 288 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: heard this correctly? Yes, this is interesting. 289 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: Brian May Roger Taylor performed Bohemian Rhapsody with the full 290 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: orchestra for the first time at the BBC's Last Night 291 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: of the Poems September, literally a month ago, September twenty 292 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Chtember of twenty twenty five. 293 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. Wow, I have to and 294 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: I was surprised that that had not happened previously. 295 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, given all the people that have played with orchestras, 296 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: right the opera section alone at the time took them 297 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 2: three weeks to record that. Brian May Roger Taylor sang 298 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: back up for ten to twelve hours, layering their voices 299 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: to create the choir of that there are Listen to this. 300 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: The ten CC thing is one thing with a mount 301 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: of love. On Bohemian Rhapsody. 302 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: There are one hundred and eighty separate vocal overdubs on 303 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: that song, stacked. 304 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: One over another, one over another. 305 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 2: The tape had been used so much that when they 306 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: were done with it, it was practically see three Wow. 307 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: Because it was all analogal nothing digital, one hundred and 308 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: eighty separate overdubs, and Brian May used his famous red guitar. 309 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: He calls that the Red Special, and he did some 310 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: really interesting guitar orchestration kind of stuff, note by note, 311 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: did a lot of harmonic work, just harmonized guitar playing, 312 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: they call it. And he called that his piece of 313 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: that song, his guitar orchestra. But you know, in the end, 314 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: what became an epic song was hated by the label 315 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: because it was six almost seven minutes. 316 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Long or something like that. 317 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: Wow, you know it was I'm sorry it was five 318 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: fifty five, Yeah, almost six minutes. You didn't get a 319 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: hit single out of a six minute song, No, you didn't, right, 320 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: you think about that time, there were edits, like there 321 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: was a you know, I'm sure Hotel California didn't come 322 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: out as a seven minute song. There was an edit 323 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: of you know, I mean, all those long songs had 324 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: had edits. 325 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but album rock stations didn't play edits. 326 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: No, but to get it on top forty forties, they 327 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: had to play it. It's yeah, So anyway, em I 328 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: hated that at the time, but they released it and 329 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: it became just an epic song that was so much 330 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: work to do it. Wouldn't you know think about what 331 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: a I you know, you could probably make that song 332 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: on a day, yeah, probably an hour? Yeah yeah crazy. Anyway, Uh, 333 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: November second, the last day of the week for this 334 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: week in Music History, nineteen sixty seven, Cream began their 335 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: final US tour and this was you know, at the 336 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: at the I guess at the at the peak of 337 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: their time as a band, but but this was this 338 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: will be it for them. 339 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: It was a Swan song. 340 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: It was fizzling, yeah, yeap, fizzling because of drugs and 341 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: because of you know, mostly drug. 342 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: Good yeah yeah yeah. 343 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: And anyway, there's the week in music A couple of 344 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: couple of big ones, you know this week, So I 345 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: appreciate the time and and love. 346 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: Doing the homework for it. Well, thank you for this, Harry. 347 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: I got a tie off after that one. That was 348 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: quite a week. This week he music history for the 349 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: week of October or October the twenty seventh, And thanks 350 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: Harry for all your work on it, and thanks for 351 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: listening to all of you to the table