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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: Here we are on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Players are back on the practice field.

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Speaker 2: Game install is happening for Bill's Bengals, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: to some of head coach Sean McDermott's comments in a

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Speaker 2: little bit here, because I think he laid it out

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Speaker 2: as plain as you could make it. Found it interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think it might be one of the most accurate

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Speaker 2: comments he has made all season.

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Speaker 3: He was asked today, what are.

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Speaker 2: You going to do to find better consistency in getting

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Speaker 2: results with your club, knowing you have traded wins and

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Speaker 2: losses for the better part of the last month and

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Speaker 2: a half, and he basically said.

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Speaker 3: Steve and I joke about this all the time. May

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Speaker 3: have I got time for that time for that.

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Speaker 2: So he basically said, and I want to get this

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Speaker 2: quote exactly correct, because I did send it out on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: but he essentially said, I don't think we can afford

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Speaker 2: to be inconsistent. Our backs are against the wall. There's

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Speaker 2: no time for that right now. And he is one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent right, because if you look at the conference race,

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Speaker 2: knowing that the division race is all but over. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's mathematically not over, but it's essentially over. You

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Speaker 2: got to win everything, sprint to the finish and see

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Speaker 2: where he end up, because in all likelihood it's going

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Speaker 2: to be somewhere between five and seven if you stay

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Speaker 2: can help it, because that means you're playing the worst

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Speaker 2: division winner and just take it from.

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Speaker 1: There, and you can't. There's no way you can convince

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Speaker 1: me that that's this the way it looks right now

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Speaker 1: from New England, Denver, Jacksonville, Baltimore as the division leaders

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Speaker 1: and then the Chargers, the Colts and the Bills as

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Speaker 1: the three wild cards. It's not going to look that

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Speaker 1: way at the end of the season. Some of those

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna fall away, some of them are going

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Speaker 1: to trip up, and somebody's gonna start on a winning

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Speaker 1: streak and get in there. And you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you're one of the teams to stay in there.

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Speaker 3: The only way to do that is by keep winning.

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Speaker 1: You got to keep winning. We've all we lived for

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Speaker 1: seventeen years before Sean McDermot era began. You live for

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Speaker 1: it seventeen years about this time of year, you're starting

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Speaker 1: to look at like you're hoping you're in the hunt.

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Speaker 1: Right in that graphic, you're you're hoping you're in the hunt,

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Speaker 1: right You're and you're saying, Okay, there, they've got it.

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Speaker 1: We got a chance for get some helping it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this team's gonna stumble, they've got a tough schedule coming out.

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Speaker 1: You can't think it like that. You gotta win your

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Speaker 1: games well.

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Speaker 3: And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: If you look at that conference race list right now,

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Speaker 2: they don't play any one of those teams the rest

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Speaker 2: of the way, with the exception of New England, New

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Speaker 2: England play New England. You don't play any of those

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Speaker 3: Teams that are in the hunt right now.

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Speaker 1: That's key move.

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Speaker 3: With the exception of New England, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's not in it, Philly's on the other side of

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Speaker 2: the you know, the other conference and the Jets, like

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Speaker 2: after New England and Cincinnati, who's arguably still in it

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Speaker 2: right now, you don't play any of those teams in

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Speaker 2: contention to directly hurt their chances, So you better keep

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Speaker 2: winning because you control less of it by virtue of

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's out of it. They're not going to get to

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Speaker 3: But you think it's too late for them.

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Speaker 1: Two games in the lost column in their division, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing there.

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Speaker 2: Their division record is better than the Ravens and the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: They're three and one, and the division tiebreaker is the

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Speaker 3: That's their best path, and they got a shot at it.

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Speaker 3: That's true wild card No, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: They're the opposite of the Bills.

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Speaker 2: The Bills are trying to make the best of their

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Speaker 2: an infinitesimal chance they could still win the division if

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Speaker 3: But you look at the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: There at Buffalo, they get Baltimore in a head to head,

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Speaker 1: They've got the Steelers this week and week eighteen, so

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Speaker 1: they've got the Steelers twice. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens if you're talking about the team they're in

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Speaker 1: To me, Oh yeah, so it's Baltimore and or Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: if you want to give Cincinnati that leg up. But

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Speaker 1: the Ravens get Pittsburgh this week, that's and they get them.

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Speaker 3: Twice yes week eighteen also Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: That's to me, is two victories for Baltimore. Then they

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Speaker 1: get the Bengals in two weeks. They just got beat

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Speaker 1: by him, and they got them in two weeks in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: Then they get New England at home, which is not easy,

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Speaker 1: Right like, they've.

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Speaker 3: Got of those teams.

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Speaker 2: They got the toughest schedule in the AOC North, I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Pittsburgh's not tough, but it's a division game

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Speaker 1: So well also you know, Pittsburgh's got the Ravens twice,

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Speaker 1: but then they've got Miami, but then they've got Detroit

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Speaker 2: I'm not even counting Pittsburgh. To me, it's Cincinnati and Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: That's who's playing for the AFC North Tipe.

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Speaker 1: But Cincinnati, I mean, mathematically they're they're out of it,

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Speaker 1: like record wise, they got eight losses. But I don't

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Speaker 2: Say, there are two games out with five games to

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Speaker 2: play in their division, and they have the best division record.

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Speaker 2: They're not out of it, and they're not gonna be

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Speaker 2: coming here thinking they're out of it. They're not playing

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Speaker 2: out the string, all right. They they think they've got

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Speaker 2: to look at this. You got to remember last year

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Speaker 2: by one game. They were the eighth seed at nine

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Speaker 1: They might be nine to eight this year and just miss.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna taken good enough to win the division. Well

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's what gets around you. Yeah, that that

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Speaker 1: If they do and the Bills of the five seed.

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Speaker 2: The Bills go to Cincinnati, YEP, which has not been

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Speaker 3: Over the years.

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Speaker 1: This this game is uh, this game's ginormous for both

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Speaker 2: Game has more more significance than people realize for.

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Speaker 1: And if Brownie and I are sitting this saying this

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Speaker 1: about the Cincinnati Bengals, that's what they're saying to themselves.

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Speaker 2: And more so, well, they're they're in Bolden now. They

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Speaker 2: got their quarterback back. They just beat the Ravens in

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Speaker 2: burrows first game back. He looked a little rusty, but

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Speaker 2: not terribly. Had the timing down with his receivers.

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Speaker 1: They're going to finish the season with three straight wins.

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Speaker 1: At least. They got Miami, Arizona and Cleveland at the end.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win with three straight victories.

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Speaker 2: But they gotta get They gotta get a cup those

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Speaker 2: against They got the Bills and the Ravens in the

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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. This week's game against the Bengals

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Speaker 2: is presented by Toyota, the official and exclusive car and

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Speaker 2: truck of the Buffalo Bills. Good job in the control room,

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Speaker 2: by the way, by Tom flipping Up schedules left, right

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Speaker 3: The thank you was on it like white on rice. There.

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Speaker 2: Let's spin it over to Bill's practice updates, which are

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Speaker 2: presented by Lee Coom your Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine,

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Speaker 2: and we begin with the injury updates, and uh, I

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Speaker 2: don't think there were any terrible surprises here from head

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Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermott not practicing today, Joey Bosa with the hamstring,

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Speaker 2: Joshua Palmer with the ankle in Terrel Bernard.

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Speaker 3: With the elbow injury.

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Speaker 2: He did shed a little light on Palmer's situation, who,

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Speaker 2: if you remember, was a full participant in practice last Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: it a setback. He just said the way with his

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Speaker 2: you wonder just what kind of ankle injury that is.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get any details on that, And then he

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Speaker 2: was also asked a follow up question on Joey Bosa's

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Speaker 2: that would basically mean this week is probably not in

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Speaker 2: the cards for Joey Bosa. And if there was ever

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Speaker 2: a week he wanted your best pass rusher out.

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Speaker 3: There, it's this week.

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Speaker 2: Although I will say, Steve, I think what has proven

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Speaker 2: more effective against Joe Burrow is preaching to your defensive

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Speaker 1: When when things are clicking. In some ways, the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: offense is everything the Bills offense are. When they're when

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Speaker 1: they're clicking, they're hard to get off the field. Burrow

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Speaker 1: first downs where they're running or throwing it. Now, certainly

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Speaker 1: they stay on the field and that's because of Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: He is absolutely He absolutely transforms their team as you

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Speaker 1: they're hard to They're hard to beat because they score

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Speaker 2: Now limited in practice today for the Bills Spencer Brown

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Speaker 2: with his shoulder injury, Dion Dawkins though he remains in

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Speaker 2: concussion protocol, and Dalton Kincaid with the hamstring injury. So

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Speaker 2: encouraging sign that Spencer Brown's getting back on the practice field,

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Speaker 2: So too is Dion Dawkins. Now, if he's doing football

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Speaker 2: step four of the five step return to play protocol.

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Speaker 2: So if he's participating in practice doing football related activities,

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Speaker 1: So if that means is he'd be practicing, he'd practice

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Speaker 2: Now here's what's interesting, Steve. The twenty one day window

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Speaker 3: Dun dun dun da.

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Speaker 2: So will it be the Shadoor Show, the Dylan Gabriel experiment,

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Speaker 1: By the way, what do we think? I do not care?

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Speaker 2: Give me a handicap it for me, Steve, Come on,

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Speaker 2: who's the starting quarterback week sixteen against the Bills should do.

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Speaker 2: I'm giving you three Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they. I think Deshaun Watson has a

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Speaker 2: Couldn't you see the owner being like, I'm not paying

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Speaker 1: And I and I'll say this to they don't care.

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Speaker 1: We don't need a quarterback that can throw for four

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Speaker 1: thousand yards. We've never had one. We didn't do it

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Speaker 1: when Jim McMahon took us to the Super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: all with the eighty five Bears and their defense. We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna We don't need to do that. We're gonna

441
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Speaker 1: and they'll light it on fire again. Some teams just

442
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Speaker 1: never get it. There's a reason nobody's thrown for four

443
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Speaker 1: grand in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: That might change. Not this year, but it might change.

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Speaker 3: I got to see how close he is.

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Speaker 1: I hope he makes it.

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Speaker 3: Might have a look at it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three zero

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Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 2: the number to jump on board with us into Tom

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Speaker 2: on the West side.

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Speaker 3: What's up Tom?

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, guys. Hey, I was thinking you were showing

454
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Speaker 4: the list of all the division leaders. We don't want

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Speaker 4: to play New England and they already beat us. We

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Speaker 4: don't want to play Denver, they always play us tough.

457
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Speaker 4: We don't want to play Jacksonville. They always play us tough,

458
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Speaker 4: and we don't want Cincinnati getting in so the best

459
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Speaker 4: way to do that is to beat him Sunday. But

460
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati always plays us tough, and the weather is going

461
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Speaker 4: to be about the same as it was the last

462
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Speaker 4: time we played him in Buffalo. But anyway, the reason

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Speaker 4: I'm calling is I'm wondering what is the actual baseline

464
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Speaker 4: testing under the concussion protocol because I've had many a concussion,

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Speaker 4: even in football, and we never had that before. It

466
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Speaker 4: is it a physical thing?

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Speaker 1: It's electronic, Yes, yeah, they have it. Yes, they test

468
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Speaker 1: your brain waves, get to do a baseline when you're

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Speaker 1: healthy in the season.

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Speaker 2: They do it at the beginning of the season, before

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Speaker 2: you've undergone any activity on the field, football or otherwise.

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Speaker 2: And everybody's baseline is obviously different because different.

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Speaker 1: They check your brain waves. Man, that's all they did.

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Speaker 3: So they that when you're healthy.

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Speaker 1: President, No, they don't ask you who well, they might

476
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Speaker 1: on game day they might ask you what day it is,

477
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Speaker 1: where you're at, what city you're at, and all that.

478
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Speaker 1: They do that, and then they also, you know, have

479
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Speaker 1: a doctor do a physical exam by your eyes are

480
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Speaker 1: being dilated. They do that. They ask you for your

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Speaker 1: symptoms and your pain. You know, do you have pain

482
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Speaker 1: in your head that what happened? Do you remember what happened?

483
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Speaker 1: Do you if they asked, Yeah, they got all of

484
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Speaker 1: that stuff on the on site, and you've got to

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Speaker 1: pass that with flying colors.

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Speaker 4: I remember going on the doctor one time and it

487
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Speaker 4: was close to work. So after after the doctor's appointment,

488
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Speaker 4: I went to work just to see if I could

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Speaker 4: do it. And I walked in and with all the

490
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Speaker 4: noise and commotion going on, I was looking around like

491
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Speaker 4: I didn't know where I was. And I told my

492
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Speaker 4: boss I can't come back yet, and he's like, oh,

493
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Speaker 4: I thought you were. You came in to punch in

494
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh no, no, no, and I was out.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a lot less understanding about what

498
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Speaker 2: kind of braining.

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Speaker 3: The problem is.

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Speaker 1: The problem is this, you have to protect the players

501
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Speaker 1: from themselves because they want to play, particularly on game day.

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Speaker 1: I was telling Brownie this story one of my concussions

503
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Speaker 1: I had. You know, it was on a Monday night

504
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Speaker 1: game in San Francisco and I had to leave the

505
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Speaker 1: game with a concussion. The problem is it takes a

506
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Speaker 1: second and then the next day we're watching the film.

507
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Speaker 1: I made a catch in the game. I didn't remember

508
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Speaker 1: the next day. You just you can't tell. It's so

509
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Speaker 1: hard to get because sometimes the symptoms are delayed and

510
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Speaker 1: you don't realize something's wrong until after you've been continuing

511
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Speaker 1: to do what you were doing for a while. Like

512
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Speaker 1: I was playing. I was still playing and it was

513
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Speaker 1: going well until it wasn't. And the you know, the

514
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Speaker 1: hit that gave me the concussion was you know, ten

515
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Speaker 1: minutes ago. You know a lot can happen in ten

516
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Speaker 1: minutes in football game, right, So you got to protect

517
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Speaker 1: these guys from themselves because most of them you're used

518
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Speaker 1: to coming out when you when you can't walk on

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Speaker 1: your foot or your ankle, your knee, yeah it's easy,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I can't play. But when it's like, eh, I

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Speaker 1: feel all right, I don't have any physical pain, I'm

522
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Speaker 1: gonna keep going. Well, then you're into in some deep

523
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Speaker 1: water that you might not want to be in.

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Speaker 2: And as for Sunday, there is no pre sip. In

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Speaker 2: the forecast, Tom was referencing the divisional playoff in twenty

526
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Speaker 2: twenty three, when there was a dusting of snow on

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Speaker 2: the field and it was cold.

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Speaker 3: It will be cold.

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Speaker 2: The high is only forecast to be thirty, which will

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Speaker 2: probably be right around kickoff in the first half, and

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Speaker 2: the low is supposed to be sixteen and there is

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Speaker 2: supposed to be some winds which will make it feel

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Speaker 2: colder than that.

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Speaker 3: But it's supposed to be a cloudy day.

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Speaker 2: No presip in the forecast, so I suppose that's good news.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of what the forecast is looking at

537
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Speaker 2: like right now. Even though we're supposed to get some

538
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Speaker 2: snow tonight and again later in the week, looks like

539
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Speaker 2: it's going to be dry on game, so that's kind

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Speaker 2: of where that sits.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Be nice to get Dawkins back, obviously, they looks like this.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals are not going to have Hendrickson playing in

544
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Speaker 2: this game. Head coach Zach Taylor for the Bengals said

545
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Speaker 2: it was doubtful that he would be ready to play

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Speaker 2: this week, so that's kind of where that stands. So

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Speaker 2: that's one less pass rusher I guess to worry about,

548
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Speaker 2: although they've been using Joseph Osi among others.

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Speaker 3: As pass rushers to fill in.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here because when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're going to be joined in studio by Bill's linebacker

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Speaker 2: Shaq Thompson. He'll be here with us next when we

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Speaker 2: return on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida healtht It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

555
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Speaker 3: All right back here on One Bill's Live.

556
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Speaker 2: On a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and

557
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Speaker 2: time for our player appearances presented by Tim Horton. Is

558
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Speaker 2: joining us in studio is Bill's linebacker Shack Thompson. And

559
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,000
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560
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,400
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561
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Speaker 3: Shaq, could to have you in.

562
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Speaker 2: Last week a little more on your plate had the

563
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Speaker 2: green dot. Not like this system is foreign to you

564
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: by any means, but I know you had to step

565
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: in for TV back in week six when he got

566
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Speaker 2: hurt and finished that game against the Falcons. Kind of

567
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: doing it on the fly this past week, you're pretty

568
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: much getting all the reps in practice leading up to

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: How much smoother was that for you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're a ten year of bit You could

572
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Speaker 2: probably just walk in and do anything. But I have

573
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Speaker 2: to imagine it made it a whole lot easier to

574
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Speaker 2: call the game when you're getting all the reps leading

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Speaker 2: up to sun.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean I kind of prepare like anything

577
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: happen even when he's playing and stuff like that, because

578
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 5: anything can happen in this game, right shoelace, you know,

579
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Speaker 5: malfunctioning with the shoulder pads or something like that.

580
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Speaker 6: Right, you gotta be able to stype in.

581
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Speaker 5: Then you got to be able to have that consistency

582
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Speaker 5: as as you're going along. Right, it can't be no

583
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 5: drop offs from the starter to the to the to

584
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Speaker 5: the guys who's backing them up right, that's on every position,

585
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Speaker 5: that's on every team.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: You don't want that.

588
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Speaker 5: You want high play and the level to be even better, right,

589
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 5: you want to make sure that's so.

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Speaker 6: That's that's my job.

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Speaker 5: That's that's what I go into every game with that

592
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Speaker 5: mindset is just try to elevate this defense.

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Speaker 1: What's what have they told you? What can you tell

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Speaker 1: us about your role? This week? Is gonna change it

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Speaker 1: at all? Is Christians? You know, you know is gonna

596
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Speaker 1: come out?

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Speaker 5: That don't know that. I don't know right now. I'm

598
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Speaker 5: just preparing for Sincy. You know, things changed down the roads,

599
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Speaker 5: don't change down the road. You know, but right now,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna just prepare.

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Speaker 1: What are their early thoughts on them? Ah?

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Speaker 5: Man, they got they got Joe Burrow back, right, one

603
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Speaker 5: of the best quarterbacks in the league. You got two

604
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Speaker 5: great wide receivers, probably one of the best duos out there. Right,

605
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: you guy some tight ends who are pretty good. Then

606
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Speaker 5: you have the back who's also good.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to sleep on a thirty over there.

609
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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be like the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: We got to make sure we tackle, wrap up.

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Speaker 5: You know, by the end of the day, we've got

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Speaker 5: to play our brand of football, you know, and we

614
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Speaker 5: got to know who's on the field, whether they have

615
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Speaker 5: Higgins or Chase.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you Shack that.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The last five weeks, you guys have traded wins for losses.

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Speaker 2: You know, every other week it's a winner, a loss,

620
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Speaker 2: a winter a loss. Coach was asked about that today

621
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Speaker 2: by the media saying, how do you find you know

622
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Speaker 2: that consistency now after a win, and coach essentially said, yeah, yeah,

623
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Speaker 2: there's no time for inconsistency now, like we gotta go.

624
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Speaker 2: We got to start stacking wins. Our backs are against

625
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Speaker 2: the wall. You know, the conference race that you guys

626
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Speaker 2: are in right now. How does that you say it

627
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Speaker 2: shouldn't impact your preparation, let alone your performance, because your

628
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: performance should be the standard every week. But it makes

629
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Speaker 2: it very real when you look at the conference and say, man,

630
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Speaker 2: it's tight, it's packed. Everybody's packed together. We got to

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Speaker 2: separate ourselves.

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Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I mean coachman deerhmoh, head on the head,

633
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: like everything has to be consistent, right, Like we got

634
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Speaker 5: to stack the wins up. We got to make sure

635
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Speaker 5: we don't have many penalties right during the game. We

636
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Speaker 5: can have things to back us up and take us

637
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Speaker 5: out of foild position or getting them into good field

638
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 5: position on the defensive side, right, So we got to

639
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: make sure we're playing team game, team ball. You know,

640
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 5: limited penalties, create turnovers, you know, limit turnovers as the offense,

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Speaker 5: and you know, just keep putting drivers together and the

642
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 5: defense is just get off the field three and ows

643
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Speaker 5: and create turnovers. Score on defense. You know that's gonna

644
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 5: be one way, really to me, the only way to

645
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Speaker 5: separate ourselves. Or even if they get in the red zone,

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Speaker 5: you know, three points are less, right, don't let them

647
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Speaker 5: get in.

648
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Speaker 1: How difficult has it been on your side of the

649
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Speaker 1: ball and your defense when you've got all these you know,

650
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Speaker 1: guys in and out of the lineup, especially guys in

651
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: front of the defensive front's been in and out and

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Speaker 1: now of course Terrell is in and out. Even the corners,

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Speaker 1: you know, Trey's been out. Get Max is in there

654
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Speaker 1: now and he's been in and out. I mean it

655
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Speaker 1: has been. There's been like thirty guys playing defense for

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Speaker 1: the Bills this year. How difficult has that been?

657
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Speaker 5: I mean that's just football, right, Like you're gonna have

658
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 5: people come in, come out, come in, come out at

659
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: all positions.

660
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Speaker 8: Right.

661
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 6: It's a long season.

662
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: It's a physical game, so you're gonna have those right,

663
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 5: it's just next man up the guy who's behind them.

664
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 5: But to prepare as you're a starter, whether you're not

665
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: starting that week or the week after, you know what

666
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: I mean. So you just got to have that mindset, right,

667
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: is anything can happen, right, and I gotta be ready

668
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 5: to go, because you don't want to be the guy

669
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: who's who's up and you're not ready to go, right,

670
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 5: like nobody wants that, You're right, that's the fastest way

671
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: to get out of this league is not being prepared

672
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: and coming out and starting fast, playing fast and being productive. Right,

673
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 5: So we just have that next man mentality, right, it's

674
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: whoever's up is up, So.

675
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 6: Who we're gonna go with and go out there and

676
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 6: do your best.

677
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: So last week, I think most people would feel, just

678
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: observing it from the outside, that it was probably collectively

679
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: your guy's best gap integrity tackling game maybe of the season.

680
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: More often than not last week, the first guy to

681
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: the ball got the ball carrier on the ground, which

682
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: there have been some performances this year where that was

683
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: not the case, you know, letting extra yardage at the

684
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: end of the play leak out or what have you.

685
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: We asked coach about that on Monday and he said,

686
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: we rep things, not until we could get it right.

687
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: We repped things until we couldn't get it wrong. What

688
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: do you think was the difference that sparked your best

689
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: performance against the run last week?

690
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 6: Honestly, it's just enough was enough?

691
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 5: Right, We're tired of getting right now, We're tired of

692
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 5: this defense getting talked about the run defense.

693
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 6: Right, enough is enough.

694
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: And the Steelers were I think the top team and

695
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 5: breaking tackles right yards after forced contacts.

696
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 6: And stuff like that.

697
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: Right, they're high and that, And I think that's what

698
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: motivated a lot of guys as well, right, like, now

699
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 5: you're not gonna break right, You're not going to break

700
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 5: this tackle.

701
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 6: You're not gonna do this.

702
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 5: You're not gonna do this to this defense, right, And

703
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: I think a lot of guys had that just mentality

704
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 5: is just like get him down.

705
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: So as a vet, how do you instill in those

706
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: guys that that just can't be a one off, Like,

707
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: let's do that again this week against this Chase and

708
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: this crew.

709
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, the things I say is like everything can happen once,

710
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 5: but can you do it twice?

711
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: Right?

712
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: Like you could do it one time, but can you

713
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 5: do it? You can you do it a second time?

714
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: Then after the second time you did it twice, he

715
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 5: can't do it three times?

716
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: Right.

717
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 5: I've been challenging to challenge his defense is to be

718
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 5: the best defense for his last now five games, Right,

719
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 5: let's let's be the best. Let's let's get the ball

720
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: back back to seventeen. Get it back to that offense,

721
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: you know, because once they get going, they get going, right,

722
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: So it's how can we be the best defense? How

723
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: can we be the number one defense and carry this

724
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: momentum going into the playoffs. Right, Like you said, it's

725
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 5: a tight race, So every game matters. Every game is

726
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 5: a playoff game, right, I feel like one losses, three losses. Right,

727
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: That's that's just how I feel, and that's just how

728
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: my mindset is. And it's just every game, counsel, we

729
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: got to go out there and play ball like it

730
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 5: like it's a playoff game. Like if you put up

731
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: all the games, they're all playoff games.

732
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: So having the role that you do, being in the

733
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: middle of the defense with a green dot, you're gonna

734
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got to know your voice. Right in

735
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: the huddle, they recognize it. How do you pick your

736
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: spots outside the huddle to say, hey, we need can

737
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: you do it again? How do you pick your spots

738
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: outside the How do you do it in the stadium? Right?

739
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 5: You and guys are kind of just going through meetings

740
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. You kind of just give them

741
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 5: a little tibbits, throwing it in the air, you know what

742
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 5: I mean. So they receive it, right, and they're putting

743
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: that in their head now they're playing that. Then when

744
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 5: we get on the field, it's already planted in their

745
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 5: head in their mindset, right that all right, it's time

746
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: to go. It's time to stop this run. Right, so

747
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 5: you kind of have to start it on Wednesday, on Tuesday,

748
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: on Thursday, just keep doing it in there, like, hey,

749
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 5: stop the run, stop the run, stop the run. Guy

750
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 5: to go out there and hit and play, and everybody

751
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 5: is responding well to it. And then we just got

752
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: to show up on Sunday, right, Like the hardest days

753
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 5: are Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, those are the hard days, right,

754
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: So Sunday is those are the fun days. Like we

755
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: should go out there, mess up, go out there, mess

756
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: up at one hundred percent, right, but make sure you

757
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: run to the ball. That's my biggest thing is you

758
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: messed up, mess up a one hundred percent.

759
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: You were a multi sport athlete, not only in high

760
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: school but college too, and you actually got drafted by

761
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: the Red Sox chose to see what that was like,

762
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: you know, playing what was it Class A ball and

763
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: taking the buses and oh.

764
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Little G League are they called the Development League?

765
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 6: So it was pretty cool?

766
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: Like is that something where Now obviously your choice proved

767
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: very fruitful and successful, you know, choosing football as a

768
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: pro career. Are you glad you at least dabbled in

769
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: that so you never left yourself wondering what a baseball

770
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: career could have been, like, like are you at peace

771
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: with it because.

772
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: You did it?

773
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 6: Like, don't get this messed up?

774
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 5: Like when I was younger, I was Barry Bonds, Like,

775
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: don't get it, don't get it, don't.

776
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 6: Changed you know what I mean?

777
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 5: Quick wrists there slams home runs inside the parks like

778
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 5: like that's not okay.

779
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 6: But uh, I would say.

780
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: That that experience kind of just brought it opened up

781
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 5: adversity to me, Like, yeah, I've been through adversity personal life,

782
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: but like sports wise, hitting adversity, like it really teaches

783
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 5: you something.

784
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: Well, hitting the ball is freaking hard.

785
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well it taught me a lot. It taught

786
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 5: me a lot about adversity, like when you're down, like

787
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: how you're gonna pick yourself up. You're just gonna let

788
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: it kill you and just keep you down and you're

789
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 5: just gonna be mad about it and not do nothing,

790
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 5: or you're just gonna wake up and just keep moving.

791
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: Forward and keep going through anything.

792
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 5: Uh, it just gave me life lessons, right, and I

793
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 5: just use those with I use adversity through every everything

794
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 5: in my life. Like I wake up and just why

795
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 5: am I tripping right? Other people going through some stuff?

796
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 5: Why why am I tripping right? I'm blessed, I have this,

797
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 5: I have that, got a healthy family, got a healthy wife.

798
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: You know why am I tripping right? So I kind

799
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 5: of just without that, I don't know how I would

800
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: be now, right, So, like, I think that really helped

801
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: me get through a lot when it comes to sports.

802
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 5: So I honestly it's funny now, but like back then,

803
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 5: it was just like, man, what you know, I was

804
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: talking to the town talk of the world. But now

805
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 5: it's just like, hey, I got an opportunity that most down,

806
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it's like you've been

807
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 5: playing baseball your whole life, didn't get drafted. I've been

808
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: playing baseball for four years, missed my whole middle year

809
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: from ten years old to sixteen, and got drafted.

810
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 6: So it's like, why would I be mad?

811
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

812
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 5: Just like and I would say, man, if a door opens,

813
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 5: go through it, right. You never know what could happen. Right,

814
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 5: whether you go through it and it close, it doesn't matter.

815
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 5: You went through that door and you got to see

816
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 5: what the outcome was and if didn't work, all right,

817
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 5: closed the door and there's gonna be another one opening

818
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: for you.

819
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate the journey for sure.

820
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 2: Time now for this week's tim Bits Time Out, presented

821
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: by of course Tim Horton's We have the Fans, Ask

822
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: Bill's players you need question. This one comes from Chris, who,

823
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: in referencing your return from an Achilles' injury, says.

824
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: How does it feel to be back?

825
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: Do you think what you have learned about yourself over

826
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: the years helped you become a better player and allow

827
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: you to contribute more?

828
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 6: What I learned from that injury.

829
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 5: Honestly, like those two injuries, the one in twenty three,

830
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 5: I broke my fibulae.

831
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 6: And my ankle, I didn't break it.

832
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: Then the Achilles one, it just happened. But I had

833
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: some great people on my corner. My wife was number one.

834
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 5: My kids also, they're probably one, A, one B. But

835
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: Thomas Davis, he was one of those guys who was

836
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 5: always in my corner because he went through three acls.

837
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 5: I was gonna row back to back to back seasons, right,

838
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 5: and just seeing a guy like that mentally going through

839
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: something that's career ending, right, ACL is thinking and he

840
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 5: comes back and he's performing high.

841
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 6: Right.

842
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: Then after those three he just I feel like his

843
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: seasons in career just took off, right. So that gave

844
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: me a lot of motivation and just putting myself and

845
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 5: having that and going back to the baseball adversity, right, like,

846
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 5: how am I going to be? I could, I could

847
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: shut down, I could give up, and did have those thoughts, honestly, like,

848
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 5: you know, am I still gonna be the same?

849
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: Well?

850
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 5: Every rehab is dark years, you know, yeah, right, every

851
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 5: rehabit dark, has dark days. But you gotta be a

852
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 5: strong minded person to realize that there's gonna be light

853
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: at the end of the tunnel.

854
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 6: Right.

855
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 5: You have to realize whatever situation you are, if you

856
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 5: put your head down and work, there's gonna be light

857
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 5: at the end of the tunnel.

858
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 8: Right.

859
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 5: There's some people that just give up because it's too hard,

860
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 5: it's too you know, that's that's the sign of a

861
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 5: week soldier, right, Like everybody has that strong mindset. It's

862
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: just are you gonna Are you willing to do it?

863
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 6: Right? Are you willing to.

864
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: Push through whatever costs, whatever it takes, whatever it is,

865
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 5: whatever sacrifice it is, are you willing to go through that, right?

866
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 6: And if it's a yes, put your head down, drop

867
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 6: whatever and go.

868
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter how much is on your back, how

869
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: much is on your head, you weighing down, nothing like,

870
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna still chuck along through it. And I kind

871
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 5: of just like in me, it's just I love the

872
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: game of football. Like, I can't end my career with

873
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: two injuries. That's just that's a mindset of mind. Like

874
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 5: I came in this game healthy, I'm gonna leave this

875
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Speaker 5: game healthy, right. I'm not going out like that now

876
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 5: for a concussion. Two different those two different things. I'm

877
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 5: not playing about the concussion like that that that would

878
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: have been done right like, but anything else in my body,

879
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna fight back and I'm gonna go out there

880
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 5: and play.

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Speaker 2: Shack, thanks for the time, Appreciate you, man, Stay healthy

882
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: and good luck.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That's Bill's linebacker Shack Thompson joining us. We'll take a

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00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: break and be back with more here on one. Bill's

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00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: Live Stay with Us from the Coach's Office is presented

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Speaker 2: by c FBT Copier Facts Business Technology, the official office

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00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: technology company of the Buffalo Bills and Steve While there

889
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: is familiarity with Joe Burrow the quarterback, he has only

890
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: played in three games this season, the first two weeks

891
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: the year and last week. How do you handle that

892
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: as a coach with very little to go on with

893
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Speaker 2: Burrow in the machinations of this system this year to

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Speaker 2: prepare properly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you look at the total body of work,

896
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: who he is, what he does, what they do when

897
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: he's at his best, and you can go back to

898
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: or you know, all the way back to the playoff

899
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Speaker 1: game here three years ago. It's now three years ago.

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00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: That still has value.

901
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: I think it does still, Yes, it does still have value.

902
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: And you also get a look at what they did

903
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens most recently, because that'll be the

904
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: most relevant as to his injury if that's limiting him.

905
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: You'll also I think for a game plan like this,

906
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: my plan, they're so efficient offensively, like we've seen the

907
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: Bills be. You look at yourself and you say, what

908
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: what gives us problems? What do we do? What gets

909
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: us off the rails on our offense? And you've got

910
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: to find different, different things that have done that and

911
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: find hopefully one you do really well defensively, Yeah, say,

912
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: well we can do this, this will derail them. But

913
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that comes down to

914
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: is this, when you're facing an offense is as efficient

915
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: as the Bills offense or the Bengals offense, your defensive

916
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: game plan has to come down to your playmakers. And

917
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: what I mean is this, your defensive play caller like

918
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: Bobby Babbage or Sean McDermott has to come up with

919
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: a once in a while trump card to throw at him,

920
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: because I think to get an offense like the Bills

921
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: or the Bengals off the field, you gotta make a

922
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: one play against him on a drive on a third

923
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: and law. You gotta get them off You gotta make

924
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: that play. You gotta get some chances at it because

925
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna make these long sustained drives. You gotta get

926
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: a play that's gonna derail them, just one, just one

927
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: to make a miss. You're never gonna I don't know

928
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: if a team like you're not gonna hold them to

929
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen yards passing no right, you might

930
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: hold them to six of twelve on third down, and

931
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: those six that you get them off is long enough

932
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: that they're not going to go forward on fourth and

933
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: go four for four and fourth down. That's what you

934
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: got to think about. It's situational football to somehow get

935
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: that offense off the field more than they can get

936
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Speaker 1: years off. And I think it comes down to play

937
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: calls and surprise blitzes. Something you haven't shown, a wrinkle,

938
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Speaker 1: a pressure package that they don't have an answer for.

939
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Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about them having a wrinkle or

940
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: two knowing they're coming off a mini buy having played

941
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Night last week. Builds next two opponents coming off

942
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: extended rest, Cincinnati this week off the mini buy having

943
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: played Thanksgiving Night, and then obviously the Patriots will be

944
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: coming off their bye week next week.

945
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Speaker 3: So that's from the Coach's Office, presented by c.

946
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: FBT Copyer Facts Business Technology, the official office technology company

947
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. We take a break here when

948
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: we come back, and our number two in that portion

949
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: of the show, we're going to have ESPN Bengals Beat

950
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: reporter Ben Baby joining us for an update on the

951
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: Bengals and where things sit with a couple of their

952
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: high profile injured players. T Higgins as well as Trey Hendrickson.

953
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: And that team is practicing outside today in the stadium

954
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati as they try to get used to the

955
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: weather conditions that will probably be very similar. Here come Sunday,

956
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Speaker 2: all that coming your way and hour number two here

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00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by colid of Health.

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Speaker 9: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: This the One Bills Live presented by Callida Health. All right,

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00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: here we are our number two on a Wednesday. Chris

961
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Browse Steve Tasker with you as we inch closer to

962
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: a pretty significant AFC Conference matchup between the Bills and

963
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Bengals on Sunday here at high Mark Stadium, the third

964
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: to last regular season game to be played in this building.

965
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: The countdown is on, for sure.

966
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Speaker 1: It is on.

967
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: But we do want to get to the phones at

968
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Speaker 2: eight oh three five fifty one eight eight eight five

969
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty And to George in Cheek Dowaga,

970
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: what's up?

971
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: George?

972
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 10: Hey guys, how are we doing today?

973
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: Good?

974
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 10: I'm a fat X guy, so excuse me if I've

975
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 10: missed this question earlier in the week. Why A couple

976
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 10: of years ago, we were down to the Dolphins two

977
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 10: games after twelve three, you know.

978
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: Three games back with five to play.

979
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 10: And everybody was like, oh, we just got to do

980
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 10: this and this, and it's no problem when we got it,

981
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 10: and we and the Bills ended up coming back and

982
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 10: playing great and they ran the table like they had to.

983
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 10: But why is it different this year? Why is everybody's like, Oh,

984
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 10: the Patriots got it, give it to him.

985
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: Because the Patriots aren't playing like the Dolphins did back then.

986
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you could you You're right, absolutely, You're right.

987
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: We're closer to the Patriots than we were to the

988
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins back in the day, three games back, and I

989
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: can't explain it any other way yours And to tell you,

990
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: we all could feel it, and the Bills had and

991
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: and the fan base as well felt like this is

992
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: a team that was getting better and better. And the

993
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins looked like they were fading. The Patriots do not

994
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: look like a team that's fading. And that's the only

995
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: that's really the basic big difference that I can think of.

996
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Maybe Brownie, you got a different one.

997
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and if you look at the standings two,

998
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: New England is unbeaten in the division. They're three and

999
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: zero and the Bills are two and two. So even

1000
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: if the Bills win the head to head game in

1001
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: Week fifteen and drop New England to three and one

1002
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: in the division, the best the Bills can do in

1003
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: the division is four and two. New England would need

1004
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: to drop another division game and have an identical record

1005
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: to that of Buffalo at the end of the season.

1006
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: They get to play the Jets in Miami at the

1007
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: end of the season. Now, those two teams are playing

1008
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: a little bit better football. But even even the projections

1009
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: and the simulations have the Bills chances of winning the

1010
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: division in the single digits. It's pretty remote. It's not impossible.

1011
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: But the Patriots has won ten games in a row.

1012
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: I think you know why, George. People don't feel the

1013
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: same way now as they did in twenty twenty three,

1014
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 2: when you saw the Dolphins stub their toe a couple

1015
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: of times and lose games they should not have lost.

1016
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: They lost to the Titans at home with Will Levis

1017
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They stumbled and you could see the chinks

1018
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: in the armor of who the Dolphins were at that

1019
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: point in time. Nobody's seeing that in the Patriots right now.

1020
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: Could it change coming off the by yes?

1021
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: Is it likely. I don't think it is.

1022
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Drake May is one of the highest rated

1023
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league. He has had six games of

1024
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: seventy five percent completion or more. His offensive coordinator is

1025
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: excellent at play call sequencing. He not only calls a

1026
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: good play for that down and distance, he also sets

1027
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: up an even bigger play later in the drive sequence.

1028
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: And you heard Dan Orlovsky on our show yesterday saying

1029
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: the thing he likes best about how their offensive game

1030
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: plans are constructed is it all starts with protection to

1031
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: give a young quarterback more than enough time to make

1032
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: the right decision. And then May is just throwing dimes.

1033
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: This throw our MSG viewers or watch. Oh no, it's

1034
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 2: not that one. It's the touchdown pass to Pop Douglas

1035
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 2: that he threw. I mean it is an absolute dot.

1036
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: This is it right here here?

1037
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean this is tight coverage, drops it over his

1038
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: shoulder in a perfect spot forty yards down the field.

1039
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean that he's just playing at an elite level

1040
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: right now.

1041
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's And so when you start talking about this

1042
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get off the rails here. No,

1043
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots are not the Dolphins of two or three

1044
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: years ago. It's just that simple.

1045
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: They're better.

1046
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: They're They're way better. When you look at the standings though,

1047
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: and the divisions and all of that, the Bills best

1048
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: chance to get in is to be the five seed

1049
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: or get there by winning games. And you look at

1050
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: the teams ahead, and the Chargers and the Colts. The

1051
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: Colts have started to stumble. I don't want to say

1052
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: I told you so. I was never a believer. I didn't.

1053
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that like I knew something. I

1054
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: just hadn't seen him play much. And they've had moments, well,

1055
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: they're really good, but.

1056
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: They have Daniel Jones playing on one leg.

1057
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Now Daniel Jones is a busted leg and all of that.

1058
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: But and you look at the Chargers, even which to

1059
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: me is the real story here. They play Philly this week,

1060
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: then they played the Chiefs, then they played Dallas, then

1061
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: they play Houston. The Chargers have got a gauntlet over

1062
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: the next month, and then they played Denver. The Chargers

1063
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: may not win another game. They may not win another game.

1064
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say they are, but man oh man,

1065
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: that's a team that is gonna play five teams all desperate.

1066
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Houston, who has a tough game this week in

1067
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Their schedule gets considerably softer after that. They've

1068
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: got Arizona at home, Las Vegas at home on the

1069
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: road against the Chargers, and then Indy at home to

1070
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: close out the season.

1071
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: So I said it earlier. You look at the playoff

1072
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: race right now as it stands, and yes, the Bills

1073
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: are chasing New England. But it doesn't look like New

1074
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: England's gonna stumble. But there's it is not gonna look

1075
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: like those seven same seven teams in the playoff bracket

1076
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: as it does today in a month.

1077
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's largely based on who people have to play.

1078
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1079
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: Uh, let's go to Nick down on Long Island. What's up?

1080
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: Nick?

1081
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 8: I do and gentlemen, hope everything's good today. Earlier this season,

1082
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 8: I called you guys and we talked about quoting the

1083
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 8: great Steve Tasker. On every football team, you need fifty

1084
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 8: three choir boys and a few guys who just don't care. Right,

1085
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 8: Shaq Thompson is I don't know if he's that, but

1086
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 8: he is a leader of men. Listening to him speak

1087
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 8: over the past couple of weeks and on your show

1088
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 8: just now, I'm an executive chef. I've led women and

1089
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Speaker 8: men for twenty years in my career.

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Speaker 7: I will follow Shaq tom onto the football field, and

1091
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 7: I hope that the young defenders and the veterans that

1092
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 7: are playing together as a unit more and more so

1093
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 7: in the last three games, follow him because.

1094
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 8: He is gonna set the tone. I believe, I honestly

1095
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 8: believed since they picked him up that he was gonna

1096
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 8: be this guy. He reminds me of Lorenzo Alexander when

1097
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 8: he speaks Ryle Williams. That's what we need now more

1098
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 8: than ever. If we're gonna push and we're gonna make

1099
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 8: people work and at least make it hard. That is

1100
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 8: exactly the way he's preaching. That's how they have to

1101
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 8: play football. On a side note, quoting Chris because I

1102
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 8: always in the past I've called I've quoted Steve. The

1103
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 8: proof isn't the pudding everything I just said, run the ball,

1104
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 8: play hard, play fee, play disciplined, and follow shack.

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00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 3: Okay, worse to live by Nick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very Jack. Last segment. If you get I'm

1107
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: sure we'll post it. You're right, he showed a lot

1108
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: of leadership qualities and you can tell by the way

1109
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: he speaks, that he's got the right mindset and guys

1110
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: rally around him. And I'll say it again. I've said

1111
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: it a gazillion times. You've probably heard Marv say it

1112
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: as well, Marv Levy, Leadership isn't about getting guys to

1113
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: follow in line behind you and follow your orders. Leadership

1114
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: is being the kind of person that other players or

1115
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: other people want to join forces with and join in

1116
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: on your vision and do the things that you see.

1117
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: And that's what leadership is. And he saw it, Shack

1118
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: sitting next to me just a few minutes ago. He's

1119
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. And you're right. While we've said

1120
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Speaker 1: you can a handful of guys that just don't care

1121
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: one or two, Shack Thompson's goes pretty long way too.

1122
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 3: And we saw it in training camp. I mean we

1123
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: had the opportunity.

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00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: You have the opportunity of training camp through you write

1125
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 2: down on the sidelines close enough to the field where

1126
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: if some players establishing a physical presence, you're close enough

1127
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: to feel it. And I remember looking at Steve after that.

1128
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: I think it was the second practice of camp. Shack

1129
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: made about four.

1130
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: Or five hits.

1131
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like first or second padded practice camp,

1132
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, well, that's different. Yeah, Like you

1133
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: can feel his physical presence on the field if you're

1134
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: down there, like it's readily apparent, and I think that

1135
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: inspires other guys to play the same way. And coach

1136
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: McDermott told us after the game in the postgame press

1137
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: conference in Pittsburgh. He said Shack got up in front

1138
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: of the defensive room and talked to them late in

1139
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: the week and challenged them to be their best and

1140
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: he reiterated it here with us. He told the guys,

1141
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 2: let's be the best defense in the league these last

1142
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: five weeks because we're gonna need to be that if

1143
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: we want to be where we all where we want

1144
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 2: to be record wise at the end of the season.

1145
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said he and they had a great outing.

1146
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: We all saw it against Pittsburgh. And he also said

1147
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: he because that you've done it once, can you do

1148
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: it again? Let's go.

1149
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: That's that's what leadership goes.

1150
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: A long way, man, it goes a long way. So yeah,

1151
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you Nick from Long Island. Shack has made

1152
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: his presence felt and I think the team's benefiting from it,

1153
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: no question.

1154
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: Let's go to Theodore and Ken Moore. Hey that rhymes

1155
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: what's up Theodore?

1156
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 11: Oh, good afternoon, generally good afternoon. I don't understand why

1157
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 11: people they call in and they just can't admit that

1158
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 11: New England is a better team than us now. They

1159
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 11: have a great young quarterback, they have a far superior

1160
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 11: coach in my opinion, and the just player for player.

1161
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 11: We don't have the players. Brandon Bean didn't get the

1162
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 11: players he needed to get, and nobody will admit that,

1163
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 11: the media people. It's terrible. I just don't understand it.

1164
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 11: But I hope the Bills win, but I hate to

1165
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 11: say it. You can put this on Brandon Bean because

1166
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 11: he did not get the players he needed and he

1167
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 11: gave contracts to the people that showed have gotten contracts,

1168
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 11: and we're in purgatory, can't purgatory hell right now. So

1169
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 11: I don't know your comments on it, but yeah, they're

1170
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 11: a better team right now than.

1171
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: We tell me why you think Mike Rabel's a better coach.

1172
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 11: Just by the different things over the years, the thirteen seconds,

1173
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 11: the use of the timeouts, I just don't I think

1174
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 11: the foot it's the way above their head. Brady would

1175
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 11: not be coaching for at any level right now. Everybody

1176
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 11: was saying, oh, he's going to go for a head coach,

1177
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 11: there won't be a team take him. They play the

1178
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 11: same place. I think they said twenty nine times on

1179
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 11: a podcast that that's your coaching. And listen, we have

1180
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 11: two great players, Josh Allen and Cook. Other than that,

1181
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 11: we have a mediocre team.

1182
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: We really can That has less to do with Sean McDermott.

1183
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: I guess the only reason I brought it up is

1184
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel and his career is sixty five and fifty.

1185
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 2: You know what McDermott is, he's one hundred and fifty five.

1186
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 11: Like, thank god, Josh Allen, thank god Couch.

1187
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he had some players too. He had the

1188
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: best running back of this era, Derrick Henry.

1189
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: So.

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00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, Theodore Rabel's a good coach. I like Rabel.

1191
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: I let him go, like we're not gonna get anywhere there.

1192
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: But the point I was making is everybody's got Vrabel

1193
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: as this high and mighty head coach.

1194
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: He's got a losing record in the playoffs.

1195
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: I mean, look, everybody, when they want to knock Sean McDermott,

1196
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: they say, wow, he's got Josh Allen didn't have Josh

1197
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: Allen in twenty seventeen, then did the playoff drought right

1198
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: with half a roster of NFL players. So, I mean,

1199
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: Mike rabel is a good coach and he's got a

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00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback now too, So I mean it is what

1201
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 2: it is.

1202
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I don't I don't give you believe

1203
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: what you believe, Theodore, But I think a lot of

1204
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: people aren't saying that the Patriots are better than the Bills.

1205
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 3: They're just wondering why you feel the division race is over.

1206
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: Well, I think he feels the pain. He said he

1207
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: felt the Patriots are a better team. That's his opcom

1208
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: And even in the head to head, certainly the Bills

1209
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: didn't beat the Patriots, but that was more on the

1210
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: Bills than it was the Patriots. In my opinion, I

1211
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: think most people won't concede that. Most Bills fans won't

1212
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: concede it because they don't believe it. I mean, Theodore

1213
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: may believe it, but I think there's a lot of

1214
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: people who would like to see that game played here

1215
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park happen again, and they will, and now

1216
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: they may beat him on their home stadium they may.

1217
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: The thing that bothered me was Theodore was kind of

1218
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: contradicting his own opinion because he was saying he feels

1219
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: that Mike Rabel's a better coach than Sean McDermott. And

1220
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: then he goes on to say how the Bills don't

1221
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: have any good players besides Sean, besides James Cook and

1222
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Well, if that's the case, we got a

1223
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 2: pretty damn good head coach that's still getting your victories

1224
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: every year.

1225
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: You can't have it both ways.

1226
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, well, you know, I mean he's all you know,

1227
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: he's criticizing and being for his assembly of the team.

1228
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: And then he says, Rabel's a better coach than McDermott,

1229
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: but mcdermot's got ally, but it doesn't have anybody else

1230
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: that's good. Like, the guy's still winning games is one

1231
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five lifetime.

1232
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: I'll say this as well. I you hear it all

1233
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: the time. Well, that guy won the won the Super Bowl.

1234
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: What Tony Duney won the Super Bowl because he had

1235
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning or whatever the or vice for you. You know,

1236
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: this guy, as soon as he lost his quarterback, they

1237
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: can't win games. Well, yeah, that's kind of way it works. Uh,

1238
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: if you don't have that guy or a guy like that,

1239
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: you don't win. That's all there is to it. You

1240
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: don't win. So if you're saying it's the quarterback, I'll

1241
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: give you some of that, but takes a head coach

1242
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: as well, both those guys.

1243
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: Let's pivot to ESPN Bengals beat reporter Ben baby he

1244
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: joins us for an update on Buffalo's opponent this week,

1245
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. All right, Ben, I guess, first and foremost,

1246
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: we got to talk about Joe Burrow back in the lineup.

1247
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: As we know, didn't look like he was showing too

1248
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: many signs of rust. I mean, timing with receivers look good,

1249
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: and that's something that's hard to recapture when you've missed

1250
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: over two months of football and processing decision making. It

1251
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: all looked pretty good last week. What were your impressions

1252
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: in his first game back?

1253
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I was actually surprised at how good

1254
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 12: he looked coming back. Typically, and unfortunately for Joe, we

1255
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 12: have a good amount of sample size of what he

1256
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 12: looks like when he's been on a long layoff because

1257
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 12: of injury, and it's taken him a long time typically

1258
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 12: to get really into the swing of things. Even at

1259
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 12: the start of the season, you know, he was fully healthy,

1260
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 12: had a great camp, just wasn't really looking like himself

1261
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 12: before he suffered that turf tow injury. But in that

1262
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 12: game against Baltimore, that really took him about a half

1263
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden, he really started to click.

1264
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 12: Like you said, the timing was there, the decision making

1265
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 12: was there. I really thought that the touchdown to Tanner Hudson,

1266
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 12: when the Bengals really struggled in the red zone all

1267
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 12: throughout that game, Hudson was one on one against Kyle Hamilton,

1268
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 12: who's it should be an all Pro safety, and I

1269
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 12: think that touchdown, reception and pass really set things in

1270
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 12: motion for them to start clicking the rest of that game.

1271
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could tell early back and even in

1272
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: training camps all around the league the one thing it's

1273
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: hard to do is go down and be effective in

1274
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: the red zone. Certainly, the Bengals start out with four

1275
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: field goals, they can't punch it into the end zone. Finally,

1276
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 1: the damn did break. But you're right, that is really

1277
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: the only sign of rust for the entire team and

1278
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: of course, even the defense seemed to gain some juice

1279
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: from Joe Burrow being back in the lineup.

1280
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, and talking to guys throughout the week

1281
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 12: and then after the game. One of the common things

1282
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 12: was that the fact that Burrow didn't shut it down

1283
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 12: when he easily could have. Guys said, listen, we would

1284
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 12: get it with three and eight were not very good.

1285
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 12: If our quarterback wants to, you know, take some time

1286
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 12: the rest of the year, we would get it. But

1287
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 12: the fact that he had sacked his rehab so aggressively

1288
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 12: and wanted to come back and play with the rest

1289
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 12: of the team, I think that really showed the guys

1290
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 12: a good amount. And also you're seeing a defense really

1291
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 12: start to settle in a little bit, some young players

1292
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 12: that have now gotten some reps getting a little bit

1293
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 12: more confidence. So I think both those things coming together,

1294
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 12: will you know, really helped that defense. But you know,

1295
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 12: as good as they looked against Pittsburgh and really against Baltimore,

1296
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 12: Buffalo is going to be a real test. A lot

1297
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 12: of really strong offensive pieces on that side of the ball,

1298
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 12: led by of course Josh Allen, who you know is

1299
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 12: going to be in the running for all the awards again.

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Speaker 11: After the season.

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Speaker 2: Two pretty important pieces t Higgins Hendrickson. I know earlier

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Speaker 2: in the week Coach Taylor wasn't terribly optimistic about Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: being ready for this one. Higgins still in the protocol correct,

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Speaker 2: as far as we know.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, as far as we know, Higgins has been in

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Speaker 12: the protocol. We'll see how things develop over the course

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Speaker 12: of the week. I think his potential participation is more

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Speaker 12: likely than Hendrickson at this point, who's remained doubtful for

1309
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Speaker 12: weeks now. I think he's in line to missus fifth

1310
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Speaker 12: straight game. So if he doesn't go, it's going to

1311
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 12: be a combination of Miles Murphy and Joseph o'side. They've

1312
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 12: seemed to settle in to their roles as starting edge rushers,

1313
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 12: guys that the Bengals have wanted to kind of take

1314
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Speaker 12: that leap after using pretty high picks on them, especially

1315
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 12: Murphy a first rounder in recent years. So you know,

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Speaker 12: they've been able to offset the loss of Hendrickson to

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Speaker 12: some degree. Having Higgins out there would be huge for

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Speaker 12: a Bengals offense that does like to throw the ball

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01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 12: no matter what the conditions are, and I think especially

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Speaker 12: in these games against Buffalo, they like to make sure

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Speaker 12: that they're the aggressor, they able to dictate pace and tempo,

1322
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 12: and given how much Buffalo likes to control the clock

1323
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 12: this year, how they played games, I think it's going

1324
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 12: to be imperative to see if you can get out

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Speaker 12: and really put pressure on a team that's known to

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Speaker 12: make things difficult on you.

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Speaker 1: What are the expectations for Cincinnati, not only within you know,

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: obviously their fan base is you know, you always have

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Speaker 1: some hope, but no question, not all these teams are

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Speaker 1: going to collapse and get to eight losses. What does

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01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati did there? Are they playing out the string? Is

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Speaker 1: Hendrickson kind of doing what they thought Joe Burrow would do?

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Speaker 1: Is he kind of like just pull the ripcord?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's.

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Speaker 12: Hard to say. We haven't talked to Trey in a while,

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01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 12: and it's hard to get a sense of what exactly

1337
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 12: is going on there. I do know that that Trey

1338
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 12: did come back from injury earlier this year and really

1339
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 12: tried to play through that the hip, the core or

1340
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 12: whatever that exact injury is with him. He tried to

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01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 12: play through it and then once he reaggravated, he did

1342
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 12: not come back. You know, after the trade deadline, and

1343
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 12: he kind of has has not played since, and his

1344
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 12: timetable to return remains of me. Seeing Zach Taylor did

1345
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 12: not give us what that might look like. But in

1346
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 12: terms of in that locker room, guys are really trying

1347
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 12: to see what they can accomplish the rest of the year.

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01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 12: You know, I've had guys talk to me about playoffs

1349
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 12: and I said, listen, y'all understand. Y'all lost seven out

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01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 12: of eight games, and there's only so many more left,

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01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 12: and they still believe that they can go out and

1352
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 12: if they can just get enough wins that they can

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01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 12: put themselves in a position to potentially be in the

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01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 12: hunt towards the back end of the year. This game

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Speaker 12: against Buffalo is going to be critical. After this, the

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Speaker 12: Bengals have Baltimore again, and then the schedule does ease

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 12: up a little bit, and you know, the Ravens and

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01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 12: the Steelers still have to play each other twice. And

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Speaker 12: quite frankly, the AFC North not very good this year.

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Speaker 12: Right now, your leaders is six and six, which is

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01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 12: atypical for this division. Well, you know, quite frankly, one

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Speaker 12: of the weaker ones that we've seen in the AFC

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Speaker 12: and quite you know this season if you want to

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Speaker 12: talk about the South as well, but I think that

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01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 12: the North is up for grabs given how bad this

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Speaker 12: division has looked this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, I want to talk to you a little

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01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: bit more about this Bengals defense. I know, statistically it

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: looks awful on paper, but from what we understand, the

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Speaker 2: run defense has gotten a little bit better. I know,

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Speaker 2: Barrett Carter is a big change there after the trade

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Speaker 2: of Logan Wilson. They're a little faster, a little more athletic.

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Speaker 2: How would you assess the state of their run defense

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: right now, maybe in comparison to what it looked like

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: just as little as a month ago.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's leaps and bounds better. And it

1377
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 12: starts with Barrett car or Demetrius Knight. The rookie linebackers

1378
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 12: really trial by fire early on in the year. They

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 12: decided they wanted to get those young guys reps and

1380
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 12: to see what their development would look like. And it

1381
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 12: still has yielded some explosive plays. We saw that against

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01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 12: Baltimore when they gave up a long touchdown run to

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Speaker 12: Derrick Henry where Bereon Carter was essentially just over leveraged

1384
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 12: and wasn't where he needed to be in the play.

1385
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 12: But by and large, when they haven't gotten gashed, this

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 12: hasn't been the same run defense we saw earlier in

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01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 12: the year where teams were getting five, six, seven yards

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01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 12: at will, which is why they're still, you know, one

1389
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 12: of the worst rush defenses statistically in the league. But

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 12: we have seen that improvement. Now James Cook is going

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 12: to be the ultimate test for them. I don't know

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Speaker 12: if you're going to find a guy who's running the

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Speaker 12: ball as well, maybe Christian McCaffrey what he's doing with

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01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 12: both the run in the past, but James Cook playing

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 12: at an exceptional level this season showed why he got

1396
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 12: the contract extension he got before the year started, and

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01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 12: he's really, you know, helped punish defenses. We saw that

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01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 12: last week against Pittsburgh. And if the Bengals want to win,

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Speaker 12: I think it's, as Josh is, you have to make

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Speaker 12: sure that James Cook can't get those runs on you consistently, because,

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Speaker 12: like I said, Buffalo has done a really good job

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Speaker 12: of controlling the clock this year, lead the league in

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 12: time of possession and especially in a game on a

1404
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 12: day when it might be cold, that is going to

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 12: be a nice asset to have. So stopping James Cook

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Speaker 12: it's gonna be paramount this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Joe Burrow gets back in the lineup. He

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Speaker 1: went out with the toe injury. How much of that

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01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: is And Joe's been nicked a couple of times in

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Speaker 1: his career and some of it was in training camp

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Speaker 1: when he's rolling out and I get the calf injury

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Speaker 1: and all that, But how much of that is on

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Speaker 1: Joe and how much of it is on his offensive line?

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,959
Speaker 1: Those guys up front are the people around him. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you get a quarterback who plays that way and is

1416
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: not up to it physically. Do you get that sense

1417
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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 12: That's hard to say. I think that it is a

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01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 12: combination of a lot of factors. A lot of people

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Speaker 12: want to put it on the offensive line. I don't

1421
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 12: think it's always been the case. Some of his injuries

1422
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 12: have been his acl that he tore in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 12: You know that happened in the pocket. I don't think

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01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 12: there's any way he can have But you know, it's

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01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 12: interesting when they talked about the turf toe this year,

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01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 12: there was a sense of, you know, if Burrow had

1427
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 12: gotten the ball out when he needed to. Granted, you

1428
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 12: know Jamar Chase lost a rare one on one, but

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 12: still we've seen Joe try that in previous years. But

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 12: you know, Joe is a guy who likes the contact.

1431
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 12: He likes to extend plays. You know, it's been interesting

1432
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 12: seeing all the discourse around Jackson Dart and his play style. Burrow,

1433
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 12: you know, to a lesser degree, has always struck me

1434
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 12: that way of a guy who likes to mix it up,

1435
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 12: getting the action a little bit for better or for worse.

1436
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 12: So you know, I think at this point you understand

1437
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 12: you're gonna get what you get with Joe. You know,

1438
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 12: there's a reason why he's one of the best quarterbacks

1439
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 12: in the league, but that comes with a good amount

1440
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 12: of risks. So you know, how he assesses that moving forward,

1441
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 12: I think is going to be fascinating for his long

1442
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 12: term trajectory of his career. But you know, I think

1443
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 12: a lot of factors are going to go into him

1444
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 12: being healthy. But you know, one of those is I

1445
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 12: think the offensive line that those guys will tell you

1446
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 12: they feel like they're playing a lot better and if

1447
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 12: Burrow can make things easier on them, I think that's

1448
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 12: gonna be critical for him for his health, not only

1449
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 12: this season, but moving forward.

1450
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: Last one for you, Ben again, I'm going to go

1451
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: back to the defense here. I know Al Golden, the

1452
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, kind of likes to play top down, doesn't

1453
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: want anything going over their heads for big plays.

1454
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,440
Speaker 3: But it's hard to ignore.

1455
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 2: That the Bengals have given up more yards after the

1456
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: catch than any defense in football. What has been the

1457
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: problem there in the short to intermedia? Are they just

1458
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: not getting guys on the ground. Are they going to

1459
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 2: strip the ball out rather than tackle the ball carrier?

1460
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: What's been the bugaboo there?

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01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, tackling like you go out and look at it.

1462
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 12: I think Zach Taylor just got sick of telling us

1463
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 12: they can't tackle, and he got sick of us asking us,

1464
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 12: why can't you guys tackle? It doesn't seem that difficult,

1465
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 12: But for whatever reason it has been over the last

1466
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 12: couple of weeks, I think they've they've made it a

1467
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 12: point to try to fix some technique issues they were

1468
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 12: struggling with, trying to get guys in better matchups to

1469
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 12: close down space. We've seen that come to fruition. You know,

1470
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 12: I really think it's just taken some time for this unit.

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01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 12: To Mesh and to Joe, they were really excited about

1472
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 12: what al Golden can do with these young players, which

1473
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 12: is one of the reasons why they brought him in

1474
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 12: from Notre Dame. And so you know, we're starting to

1475
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 12: see some of that. The question is is it going

1476
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 12: to be too little, too late for this Bengals defense.

1477
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 12: I'm really excited for this matchup on Sunday. I'm hoping

1478
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 12: to see some run from Tyrell Shavers. Really excited about him.

1479
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 12: One of my favorite stories, quite frankly, in football because

1480
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 12: if you look at it, the high school that he

1481
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 12: came from hasn't really produced a ton of recruits out

1482
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 12: in Lewisville, Texas, right around where I'm from. Kyler Murray

1483
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 12: actually started out there, decided to make his way somewhere

1484
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 12: else in the metroplex, and then his career took off.

1485
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 12: Tyrell I was able to go to Alabama. Nice to

1486
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 12: see him getting some run in Buffalo. Really, it has

1487
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 12: the potential to be an explosive receiver and can give

1488
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 12: this Buffalo or this Bengal secondary some fits.

1489
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: Ben. Thanks, Ben, appreciate it.

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate the time. As always thank you all.

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01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: All right, that's ESPN Bengals Beat reporter Ben Baby joining us.

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: We'll take a break here and be back with more

1493
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday edition and One Bill's Live for anybody

1494
01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: can lie to hell.

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Speaker 9: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you Wednesday. Injury report is out and

1498
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: really no deviations or surprises from what hey. Coach Sean

1499
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 2: McDermott told us Bernard, Bosa and Palmer not practicing today,

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Speaker 2: limited Brown, Dawkins and Kincaid Dawkins still in concussion protocol

1501
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: as of today, So everybody else good to go on

1502
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: the practice field for the Bills. We'll try to pass

1503
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: along some notes from the Cincinnati Bengals as soon as

1504
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,839
Speaker 2: we track those down or they're posted at the Bengals

1505
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: team site. I do you how differently do you feel,

1506
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: Steve if T Higgins is back in the lineup for

1507
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 2: them as opposed to staying in concussion protocol, because now

1508
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: you've got two problems instead of one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good players make you better. Great players make you

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: closer to great. T Higgins along with Jamar Chase is

1511
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: a problem. He's he would be a wide receiver number

1512
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: one on any team other than the Cincinnati Bengals, any

1513
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: other team, with the exception maybe Phillip maybe AJ Brown,

1514
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: you'd take over T Higgins. But man, that's it. He

1515
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: is a really good receiver. That'll be a problem if

1516
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: he can get back on the field.

1517
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he played without Chase when Chase served the

1518
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: one game suspension for spitting on Jalen Ramsey and then

1519
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,799
Speaker 2: he got the concussion and missed.

1520
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 3: Last week's game.

1521
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, right, he would be an added concern for sure.

1522
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 2: No updates that I can see yet from the Bengals situation.

1523
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: This one surprised me.

1524
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: Steve.

1525
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 3: Chase Brown has five.

1526
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: One hundred A rushing games this year. They have a

1527
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: terrible their their rankings on paper, as we talked about

1528
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 2: with Ben Baby, are not good. But Chase Brown's been

1529
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,919
Speaker 2: productive and he's a home run threat.

1530
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I still think.

1531
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 3: I don't think you can sleep on their run game,

1532
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 3: is what I'm saying.

1533
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: No, the problem is you almost and we talked about

1534
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: this and forward with this yesterday. I think you almost though.

1535
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: If you're gonna play him and you want to make

1536
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: it rough on him, you almost have to invite him

1537
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: to do that, though, you know you have to invite

1538
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: him to run the football, I guess because you score slower, right,

1539
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: and it's easier to get him off the field once

1540
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: in a while, right if you if they run the

1541
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: ball and put them in third and long, you get

1542
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: an incompletion to tip past something. Just make it harder

1543
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: on him to stay on the field if you can

1544
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: stop the run. But you got to kind of invite

1545
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: him to get him to do that, because they're past

1546
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: first offense without question. They're not like the Bill the

1547
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: Bills are, right. I mean, we can all agree now

1548
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: that I think that the Bills are a run first

1549
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: off and I get it. It's for good reason, and

1550
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: it's a it's a pretty good recipe when it works.

1551
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: But the Bengals are not that, and so I think

1552
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: you kind of invite them to try and beat you

1553
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: left handed, as uncomfortable as it might be with a

1554
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: team that up until this last week struggled in that area.

1555
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they don't. I mean, you look at them

1556
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: on paper.

1557
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 2: They're in the bottom of the league just about every

1558
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: defensive category, and without Joe Burrow in the lineup for

1559
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 2: the last two months, there aren't too many things they

1560
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: do exceptionally well, even on offense.

1561
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 3: That's right bound to change now Burrow in the line.

1562
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're twenty second in the league in total yards

1563
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: a game, thirtieth in rushing yards a game. I've been

1564
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: in passing they're eleventh, and that's with Joe Burrow playing

1565
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: three games.

1566
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: Right, and we trade for Joe Flacco. That made them

1567
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: a little more productive, right, But they're you know, you

1568
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 2: can't really read much into that because Burrow makes them

1569
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: completely different.

1570
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 3: That's right when he's in the lineup.

1571
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: So there, yeah, exactly. Now if you go, you know, defensively,

1572
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: defensively they're giving up four hundred plus yards a game.

1573
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: They're thirty second, they're thirty second in yards per play,

1574
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: They're thirty first in rushing yards a game, twenty ninth

1575
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: in rushing yards per play. They're thirty second in passing

1576
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: yards given up per game, and thirty first in passing

1577
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: yards per play. Your plan has to be to try

1578
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: and take advantage of that. I said it a couple

1579
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: of times. If you can mimic what you did in

1580
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in the second half of that game and the

1581
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: last five possessions they had a fourteen play drive, a

1582
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: fifteen play drive, and a sixteen play drive. You're gonna

1583
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: win if you can do that.

1584
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna pivot now and go to the post

1585
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: practice podium because that is where Josh Allen is a

1586
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 2: dressing the media. We'll get his thoughts on last week's

1587
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: game and on this one coming up against Cincinnati.

1588
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 3: Here is Josh al you.

1589
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 6: I've guessed him.

1590
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 13: You pushed Robert games against other great playbacks, and it's

1591
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 13: clearly resentats this week.

1592
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: Joe summing back.

1593
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, many anytime you have a chance to

1594
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 14: play against one of the premier quarterbacks in this league,

1595
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 14: you know you have to be ready for it. You

1596
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 14: have to put your your best stuff out there, have

1597
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 14: a really good game, week of practice, and then go

1598
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 14: out there and execute.

1599
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 9: On Sunday, Chama is talking about how you don't trust

1600
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 9: really quickly with Brandon Cooks.

1601
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 4: Just how did you do that?

1602
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: And what is he bringing to this team?

1603
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 14: I did that because of what he's done making sure

1604
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 14: that he's here studying the playbook. Every time that we

1605
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 14: had a rep in practice, he was full speed, you know,

1606
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 14: and you can tell right away why he's had such

1607
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 14: a long career in this league is because he does

1608
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 14: things the right way. He's a good teammate, you know,

1609
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 14: and I think that trust is going to continue to

1610
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 14: continue to grow. So I'm very excited to continue.

1611
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 12: To work with him to the downfield pass the game.

1612
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 14: I think he's got just that that extra gear, that

1613
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 14: extra gear speed that you'd want. Again smart, I think

1614
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 14: he tracks the ball extremely well. I know he's a

1615
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 14: smaller guy on paper, but I think if you go

1616
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 14: back and watch some of the film, I mean, he

1617
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 14: goes up and gets the ball and he's going to

1618
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 14: fight for every ball that's in the air.

1619
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 13: Sorry, Katherine, how do you focus on getting out of

1620
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 13: the cycle of one win, one loss, just to get

1621
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 13: a semblance of consistency blowing down to.

1622
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 14: Stretch well one, I think to not worry about that,

1623
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 14: to continue to stick with the process of of what

1624
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,959
Speaker 14: we know works for us, have a good week of practice,

1625
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 14: and then again go out there on Sunday and just

1626
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 14: go extute as best as you can, put forth your

1627
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 14: best effort and try to get a victory and not

1628
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 14: not you know, not worrying so much about the result,

1629
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 14: but more about the process of it. And you know,

1630
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 14: everything should take care of itself section.

1631
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: You know you've got your backs are against the wall

1632
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 3: because you read that seven.

1633
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 12: Spots get a nothing's guaranteed.

1634
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 5: Obviously, you know you had to do late season rallies

1635
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 5: to what vision through.

1636
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 6: So what does that experience?

1637
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 13: You know the division's going to be tough this year?

1638
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 2: What do you think you obviously, is that experience you've

1639
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: had through the years of playing in these important December

1640
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: games going to help.

1641
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 8: You vision years?

1642
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 6: I think? So, you know it does.

1643
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 14: It definitely doesn't hurt to have that experience, and guys

1644
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 14: that have that experience, guys that have been in this

1645
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 14: league for quite some time. So yeah, you know, relying

1646
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 14: on that and relying on each other. But again, the

1647
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 14: best thing that we can do is have a good

1648
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 14: week of practice and put forth their best effort on Sunday.

1649
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 15: Going along those lines, Jash, you guys are twelve and

1650
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 15: one in December over the last three years, so you

1651
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 15: know when the calendar flips here, you guys have kind

1652
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 15: of played your best football when you need it at most.

1653
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 15: Has anything stood out to you about late season your

1654
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 15: approach that has allowed that type of success.

1655
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 14: I mean, I don't know the statistics or anything like that.

1656
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 14: I'm assuming that we've done a good job of protecting

1657
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 14: the football, you know, and especially especially at games at home,

1658
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 14: being able to use cadence and making sure that we're

1659
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 14: communicating well.

1660
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 6: I think that that helps.

1661
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 14: But we got a again daunting task this week against

1662
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 14: a team that's playing really well. Obviously, Joe coming back

1663
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 14: is a huge spark for them, you know, and it's

1664
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 14: going to be all hands on.

1665
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 16: Debt talked about staying with the process to find some

1666
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 16: consistency over this last part.

1667
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 6: Does the process, ever, are be tweaked though.

1668
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 3: To kind of bounce back better after a win.

1669
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 14: I mean, I don't know about tweaked, but again, I

1670
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 14: think having that experience of what we were just talking

1671
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 14: about and understanding when to push when to pull back,

1672
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 14: and I think coach does such a good job, especially

1673
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 14: with taking care of the guys over the course of

1674
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 14: the week. Obviously you guys see that it's mostly a

1675
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 14: walkthrough today, but trying to stay fresh and continue to

1676
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 14: stay fresh later in the season because you know, it's

1677
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 14: a it's a long schedule, and I think some some

1678
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 14: teams may feel the effects of that. But you know,

1679
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 14: our strength staff and our our training staff do such

1680
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 14: a good job of making sure that guys are ready

1681
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 14: to go on game days.

1682
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 13: Gets been a big fan, I mean a big support

1683
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 13: of James Cook. Is there anything more that stands out

1684
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 13: about him.

1685
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 6: During this department pun of this run over the last

1686
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 6: year X.

1687
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 14: Again, I think his approach to the game, it's it's

1688
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 14: it's very consistent throughout the week. You know, he just

1689
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 14: he continues to impress, he can continues to do things

1690
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 14: the right way. If you watch the tape, you know,

1691
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 14: if he doesn't get the ball, he's the first one

1692
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 14: down in the field following the ball running after it.

1693
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 14: So yeah, I mean I think he's just he's become

1694
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 14: a true professional football player and he's again one of

1695
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 14: the the best, if not the best back in the

1696
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 14: league when he's got the ball in his hands.

1697
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 13: Do you think I'm sorry to know that?

1698
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 6: How much to what's up.

1699
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 13: The whole contract process that kind of like got mired

1700
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 13: in the how much do you think getting paid and

1701
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 13: getting getting that validation drove him or motivated him further

1702
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 13: in some ways?

1703
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I think he's he's one of those

1704
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 14: guys again, that's why he fits this culture and why

1705
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 14: he's here is because He's not the guy that's gonna

1706
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 14: get paid and not work hard, right. He understands that

1707
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 14: they're he got that contract for what he's going to do,

1708
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 14: not for what he did, and he continues again day

1709
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 14: in and day out to work extremely hard, be a

1710
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 14: true pro be in the in the training room, working

1711
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 14: on his body and doing things the right way.

1712
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 15: Outside of James being really good, what else has led

1713
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 15: to you, guys having a number one rushing attack in

1714
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 15: the league at this point in your mind?

1715
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 14: I mean, I think it's our obviously our O line

1716
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 14: doing a great job, but it's our skill position player too.

1717
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 14: The willingness to go in there and block and get

1718
01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 14: hands on you know, safeties and stars and linebackers, and

1719
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 14: you know, we're asking our tight ends to do a

1720
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 14: lot in the run game, and they've they've done it

1721
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 14: exceedingly well, and we're gonna continue to need that moving forward,

1722
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 14: especially once the weather gets like the weather it gets here,

1723
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 14: being able to run it when the opposing team knows

1724
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 14: that we're gonna run it, and you know, that comes

1725
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 14: down to execution, making sure guys are in the right

1726
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 14: spots and for my sake, making sure that I can

1727
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Speaker 14: help with that process as much as possible.

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01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 16: Josh Christian Benford said this week that when teams or

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 16: players trash talk, you kind of activates a different character

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01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 16: in you. Do you feel like you become somebody else

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01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 16: when that that kind of part of the game starts happening.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if becoming someone else's is the right term,

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01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 14: but it definitely yeah. I mean it fires me up

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01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 14: a little bit and brings out the competitive juices, and

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01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 14: you know, that's that's why I love this game so much,

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01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 14: because you have the opportunity to fully express yourself.

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01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 3: All Right, that's Josh Allen addressing the media.

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01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 2: As we said, four days away from Bill's Bengals here

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01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: in week fourteen, we'll take a break, Steve and I

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01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: will close it up when we return here on a

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01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 2: Wednesday edition on one Bill's Live. Stay with us, all right,

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01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 2: So we do have an update to report on the Bengals,

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01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: and this is courtesy of Bengals beat reporter Ben Baby,

1744
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: who we just had on the show about an hour ago.

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01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: He tweeted that t Higgins is in fact back at

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01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 2: practice for the Bengals. He's still in the concussion protocol.

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01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 2: Head coach Zach Taylor said he is making progress. He

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01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: is going to be a limited participant in practice today,

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01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: so he's in a similar position as Bill's left tackle

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01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins. Deon Dawkins return to practice today in a

1751
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: linlimited capacity, but he too is still in concussion protocol.

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01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: So we'll see if each of these players can clear

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01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: protocol by the end of the week.

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01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, as much hope as you have for Deon

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01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: Dawkins clear and concussion protocol. That's where the Bengals fans

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01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: are with t Higgins. Yeah, yeah, there.

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01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Are different offense with Jay and Higgins in the lineup,

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01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: and also Mike Kisiki, their tight end, just came back

1759
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: to the lineup last week from a long term injury,

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01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: so that's a third weapon on the inside.

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01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: They're loaded on off.

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01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: Got some guys man, so.

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01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: And it's been interesting because the last few weeks they've

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01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: deployed Trudevious White on tight ends more and more. And

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 2: I'm kind of envisioning that this week, you put Harston

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01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: on one of the receivers outside, you put Benford on

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01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 2: Chase presumably, so that means Harston on Higgins, and then

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01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 2: with Kasicki, you could use Trudevious White if you wanted to.

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01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they were hesitant to use not hesitant. But

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01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: Max didn't play all that much against Pittsburgh. He was

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: he too, was off a concussion and been cleared, but

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01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: probably because he didn't practice at a high level, wasn't

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01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: didn't appear to be himself, or you know, didn't get

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01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: enough reps. It was probablyably the reason why Trey got

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01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the lion's share of it. You can bet that they'll

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: need all hands on deck this week, though, if anybody's

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: healthy enough, they're gonna be on the field.

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01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're gonna need everybody.

1779
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of weapons that that team can

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01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 2: throw at you, So you've got to have everybody and

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01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: anybody that's capable out there.

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01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: Because I'm I'm looking at the.

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01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the snapcount sheet from last week's game,

1784
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 2: and Harston played thirteen snaps and that was it.

1785
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Tredavi has played thirty three.

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01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: So the last few weeks they had been almost fifty

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01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 2: to fifty and this time they were like seventy thirty.

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01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: I think that will change considerably this week because you

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 2: gonna need both of those guys on the field A

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01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: good deal. I would say for the most part, like

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01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: to defend this crew across the board. Yeah, you're gonna

1792
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: need all those cats. You're gonna need as much speed

1793
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: and athleticism in the back end as you can get.

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01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa's absence is really gonna hurt.

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01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're assuming he's not going to get back string

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01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 3: entry in time.

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01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna need somebody to play a little bit

1798
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: over their head. I think it's a matchup game, as

1799
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: we know, and the Bills are going to have to

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01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: be at their best with some of those matchups that

1801
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: the Bengals will throw at them offensively.

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01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 3: That's about it for us here today.

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01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: We do want to remind you that our Thursday edition

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01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: of One Bill's Live will include the Hall of Famer

1805
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: Thurman Thomas.

1806
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna join us in the studio.

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01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: As he does every week when he's not under the weather.

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01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: It's only missed one week. He wasn't feeling miss Is

1809
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 2: that what it was? Or did he have a travel commitment.

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01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: He might have had a travelin He was like he yeah,

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01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 1: he was just off a trip or just wasn't going

1812
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: to be able to make it right on time.

1813
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: So we just but otherwise he's been good, so so

1814
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 2: we look forward to catching up with Thurman tomorrow. I

1815
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: am going to predict this, and I think it's a

1816
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: pretty safe prediction. He's going to have something to say

1817
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: about two hundred and forty nine rushing yards last week

1818
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: against the Steelers.

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01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 3: You think it might come up, it might come up.

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01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 3: It's definitely coming.

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01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: I come up, It'll come up unsolicited, it will be

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01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: all over that.

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01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: He might be wearing a James Cook jersey when he

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01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: gets in here tomorrow.

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01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 3: I would anticipate that.

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01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: That's it for us today, Steve and I will see

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01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: you back here tomorrow. We'll have some more practice updates,

1828
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 2: let you know how the guys on the injury report

1829
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: are doing.

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Speaker 3: We will see you at one