1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Look at Our Radio is a radio phonic novela, which 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: is just a very extra way of saying a podcast. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm theos f M and I am Malays. Local Radio 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: is your free, must favorite podcast hosted by us Mala 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and Theosa, where two I G friends turned podcast partners, 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: breaking down pop culture, feminism, sexual wellness, and offering fresh 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: takes on strending topics through nuanced interviews with up and 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: coming Latin next creatives known as Las Locals, Las Mammy 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Submit and Bullshits next Door and Lasses. We've been podcasting 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: independently since and we're bringing our radiophonic novela to the 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Miculcura Network to continue sharing stories from the latinox community. 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Local Radio Season seven. Take us to your 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: network Well now, La Locomotives, Welcome back to Look at 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Our Radio. I'm Thesa and you're tuning in to last 15 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: time on Look at the Radio, we discuss the current 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: state of feminism and waves of anti feminism. Go back, 17 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: tune in, let us know what you think. If you've 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: seen any examples of anti feminism, especially online, tag us 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: send it to us because we're continuing to collect receipts 20 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: on this ever looming issue. Yeah, I feel like we 21 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of without even intending to like start a little 22 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: series on look at the Radio, Like we start with 23 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: an idea and then we're like, Okay, we have to 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: revisit this every so often. And I think that this 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: is one of those topics totally, because each episode is 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: honestly like we've been noticing something has happened repeatedly. Okay, 27 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: now it's time to make an episode about it. So 28 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: these are things that are happening on an ongoing basis anyways, 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: and we're just you know, we're noticing. Yes, we're noticing, 30 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: we're archiving, we're discussing, yes we are. And before we 31 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: get into today's episodes, can I just point out that 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: we hit one fifty episode one fifty. I can't believe it. 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Go us, go us, go us. Shout out Michael. Yeah, 34 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: we could not have made it without them. Literally, shout 35 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: out to the Michael Dura Network, our new home. We 36 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: love it here. We're just we're cozy, we're settling right in. Yeah, 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, one fifty. I'm so proud of us because 38 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: we're a weekly show, and without the weekly cadence, we 39 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't be at one. No, it really makes a difference. 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean the cadence, it's like it really adds up 41 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: and it helps us, I think also to diversify our 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: content because we got to come up with something different 43 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: enough from the week before, you know, instead of checking 44 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: into like once a month, we really got to pay 45 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: attention and write stuff down and flesh ideas. So I 46 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: think the podcast is just continuing to flourish because of 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: our move to heart Agree it's great. It's great, and 48 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: I also have some news that I want to share. 49 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what happened? So I am officially a 50 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: full time look, yes, we love it. So I quit 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: my resigned for my job in January, and it was 52 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: one of the hardest decisions I've ever made because I 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: love this job. It's with a great agency, probably the 54 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: healthiest work environment ever. I had a like really comfy 55 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: work from home situation. Um, but you know, with the 56 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: full time grad student I heart new shows, I just 57 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: couldn't you know what, it turns out you can't do 58 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: it all and that's all right, And I think that 59 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: also ties into today's episode. Also totally, there are only 60 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: so many hours in a day and so many days 61 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: in a week. And you were really juggling like everything 62 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: for a time there successfully that two was like hyper 63 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: productive for you. It was for better or for worse. 64 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: You know. Something that I really reflected on at the 65 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: end of when I was burnt out was it's not 66 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: okay the limits you push yourself to. And having that 67 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: realization like really led me to the decision of resigning 68 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: from this job that I really care about and I 69 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: really enjoyed, because some even if you can do it, 70 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: does it doesn't mean that you should, right, And I 71 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: like found myself like, Okay, just because you can kind 72 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: of hold down three full time things doesn't mean that 73 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: you should. And the network was like the goal, So 74 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: like what am I waiting for? You know totally it's 75 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: that what's that saying? Where it's like the place you're 76 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: at now, like you were dying to be there three 77 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: years ago, five years ago, you know, one year ago, 78 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: and like now we're here, we have to revel in 79 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: it and appreciate it because and we were we were 80 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: dreaming about this and ide eating and manifesting and talking 81 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: about it and pitching and really trying to push to 82 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: get that network contract the right one, and now we 83 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: have it now we're here like we have to, and 84 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: you talked about this like when we are now celebrating 85 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: these milestones, do you have the time in the space 86 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: to celebrate them? Right? Yeah. I think there's like so 87 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: many iterations of that, of that idea or that's saying right. 88 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: It's like one of the things that I also think 89 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: of is like, remember when you wished for what you 90 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: have right now, very same same feeling. It's like, you 91 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: wanted this so bad and now you have it, can 92 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: you even enjoy it? Do you even have the time 93 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: and space to really thrive and enjoy and be happy 94 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: or are you always stressed and booked and looking towards 95 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: the next thing? Exactly? Yeah. The that's I think the 96 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: kicker too, is especially with all this entertainment industry type work, 97 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: begging on the door or throwing rocks at the windows, 98 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: like let me in, breaking in, breaking in, tearing down 99 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: the door exactly. So now we're here, Okay, I was begging, 100 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: like let me work, So now it's time to work. 101 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: That's ultimately I feel like when we talk about we 102 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: have dreams and goals, it's to do more work. And 103 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: so now we're here, yeah, and we're working and I 104 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: think it's it's working. It's totally working. Yeah, And I think, yeah, 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: in the spirit of letting things go to make room 106 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: for new things. And we're approaching February and that's you know, 107 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: a month full of love and reflection and like whatever 108 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: type of love that means for you and your life. 109 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: We wanted to talk about self love today, which I 110 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: feel like in the last five, six, seven years since 111 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: we've been podcasting, like continues to be a topic of 112 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: conversation for everyone in like the feminist spaces, in wellness 113 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: and dating, like all these different areas of life, people 114 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: are always talking about self love and self care. And 115 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I think we kind of are like, okay, like we 116 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: don't need to always talk about that, but I think 117 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: we want to take some time to actually talk about 118 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: that today. Yeah, if ever there was a time, or 119 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: ever there was an episode, it's going to be like 120 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: our February Valentine's Gallantine's esque episode. And yeah, you know, 121 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm also reflecting on how much the conversation has probably changed. 122 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: If we go back to earlier seasons and earlier episodes 123 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: when we were younger women talking about self care, I 124 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: feel like those there was probably more like bath bombs 125 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: and facials than maybe like we might discuss today, right. Um, 126 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: I think for me this idea of self care has 127 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: evolved to this place where it's like, can I take 128 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: care of myself enough that I can be ready to 129 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: go up for like people around me? And I think 130 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: that has become more of like my test and my 131 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: marker for self care. It's not just anymore like do 132 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I feel good and happy? It's like do I feel 133 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: good and happy? And do I have my ship together 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: enough that if you know, like there's a situation at home, 135 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I can be responsive or I can help, or I 136 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: can participate in some way, you know. So that's kind 137 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: of like how I've been thinking about it, like care 138 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: of myself honestly in service of others. Yeah, I completely 139 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: agree with you. Like when thinking about past episodes, because 140 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: we've been podcasting since we were, respectively twenty three and 141 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: twenty four, we're grown women. Even though we thought we 142 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: were grown then, we're like really grown now and continue 143 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: to grow. Um. But I was also thinking about how 144 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: our definition of self love and self care has probably 145 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: changed over the years, and how before it was like 146 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: wearing the bomb is outfit, feeling the best in whatever 147 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: way that meant that day, and I'd like, that's still 148 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: true to an extent, but I agree, I think, how 149 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: can I show up for myself that allows me to 150 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: show up for others? And I think, going back to 151 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: what I was saying about juggling too many things, I 152 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: felt like I was a little monster gremlin in December, 153 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: like I felt like I was not my best self 154 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: like to those around me. And that also made me 155 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: reflect like is this how I want to be spending 156 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: my time with my people? Like do I want to 157 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: be in a crappy mood because I'm so exhausted? And 158 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I think that, coupled with all these other things, right, 159 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: being in a space that has allowed me now to 160 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: be full time look really shifted, like, Okay, I want 161 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: to show up in my best way for others and 162 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: I can't do that if I'm running myself to the ground. 163 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: And so taking that step of okay, I'm taking the 164 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: leap going to be full time, I'm resigning for my 165 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: job was an act of self care and self love 166 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: for me as a person, but also for the career right, 167 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: but really really for like me as a person, because 168 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: I was a little gremlin, like I was not my kindest, 169 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: best self, and I was like fully, fully aware of it, 170 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and I could see myself showing up like a little gremlin. 171 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: You were it was like you were in a permanent 172 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: state of hungary. Yes, for the month, I was constantly angry, essentially, 173 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: And it's understandable because that last week of the month 174 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: really tried you, like really put you through some hoops, 175 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: some trials and tribulations. I feel that you handled it 176 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: all with grace, but of course I'm not there with 177 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: you every hour of the day, you know, But I 178 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: feel like it's one of those things that sometimes that's 179 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: also the self love is like we are these little 180 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: pressure cookers and it's okay, there's a little steam, and 181 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: hopefully those around us who love us like, no that 182 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: we don't mean, we don't mean anything by it. We're 183 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: just a little stressed, you know. Yeah. I like overheard 184 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: my mom talking to my THEA and she she was referring, 185 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: she was talking about me, and she goes, oh, yeah, 186 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: she's in finals right now, so I'm staying away from her. Oh, 187 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: And I was like both mortified but also like, you know, 188 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: a good call, like yeah, like I do need to 189 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: be like I need some distance from people to like 190 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: figure things out. And yeah, better that could I do 191 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: the same thing. I'll tell my mom, Like, I just 192 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: need to be left alone a little bit. And this 193 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: is for everyone's benefit, you know. I don't want to 194 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: subject you to my crabbiness. I need to address the 195 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: crabbiness myself. I know how to fix it. Let me 196 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: just handle it and we'll be back. I'll see you tomorrow, 197 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, I agree. And then you know, when thinking 198 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: about like I don't know, mama, like when you were 199 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: in your early twenties, or even just even a year ago, 200 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: like how do you think your definition of self love 201 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: has changed? Like what did your acts of self look like? 202 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: What did your acts of self love look like then 203 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: versus now? Yeah, you know it was a lot more performative, 204 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: I think, and a lot more indulgent. I think that 205 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: back then, And this goes I think ties into like 206 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: our conversation in past episodes about the type of feminism 207 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: we were engaging in. I think it was a lot 208 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: of like have the cocktail, like, throw on the cute dress, 209 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: like meet up with the girlies, like go party, like 210 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: stay out ntil the wee hours of the night, you know, 211 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: like get the acrylic nail, take the bubble, bad love, 212 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: all those things super fun, you know. But I think 213 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: now the self care is like not going out, not drinking, 214 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: taking a class, you know, like going and like doing 215 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: something that is contributing to my long term whatever health goals, happiness, success, 216 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to like the weekend you know band aid, 217 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: which I think a lot of our self care, or 218 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: mine at least in the past, was like weekend band 219 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: aid because it was so tied to this very traumatic 220 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: job that I had. You know, It's like you're working 221 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: traumatizing like hours and doing traumatizing stuff and being exposed 222 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: to traumatizing things. So the self care is just like 223 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: recovering from that, but just so that you can get 224 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: up and do it again the next time you go 225 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: in for work. Right, life is so different now. Life 226 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: is like so lovely now because over the years making 227 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: certain moves to now center my life around like art 228 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: and creativity and performance, whether that be the podcast both 229 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: of the podcast you know, look at and Marijuaneda, or 230 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: the stand up or the improv or the writing what 231 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: have you, the skating, so I don't have to like 232 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: recover from my work anymore. I don't have to recover 233 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: from my life from the nine to five or the 234 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. It's like it can all be integrated 235 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: and it can all contribute to my my happiness. So 236 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: I think that's also like been a big project for me, 237 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: is just shifting everything so like the center is not harmful, 238 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: the center is like is in and of itself happy. 239 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I love that. That's such a good 240 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: point because I think so much of early twenties mid 241 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: twenties self really up until the pandemic, was about, like 242 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: you said, putting that band aid on and how can 243 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I like be cute? And even though I don't think 244 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: I saw it then because I don't think I was 245 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: trying to like buy my self care, but it was 246 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: very much tied to like getting a facial, you know, 247 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: getting the acrylics set, which I still get their gel 248 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: x now, but very much tied to like how can 249 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: I do some do an act that's going to make 250 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: me feel better for like a couple of hours or 251 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: a couple of days, but like the root of it 252 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: has not been fixed. And I think that that ties 253 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: into what you're saying about, like, well, if it's like 254 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: you're being traumatized systematically, like especially in your line of work, 255 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: and I think for a lot of us, like we're 256 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: dealing with it's not just internal sadness. Some of it is, 257 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: but it's also like, oh no, you're working against systems. 258 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: They are like trying to tear you down or trying 259 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: to make you feel bad, which is why like the 260 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: individual self care day is not going to help you. 261 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: It's not going to fix everything. It's going to put 262 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: a band aid on. And again, we still do all 263 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: those cute things. We still do them. They're not gone. No, no, no, 264 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: we've kept We still have a cocktail. Yeah we do, 265 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: we do. I think now we know like, okay, we're done, 266 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: we're two cocktails that we're good, and that's fine. You know. 267 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: But before it was like, oh no, we're gonna we're 268 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: gonna drink all the cocktails. You have, double double fisting 269 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: happy hour, let's do it. It was good times. It 270 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: was fun, and you know you still need those days, 271 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, like we still work those things in, but 272 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: I think we've kind of learned, like the moderation and 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: also like Okay, if I have to recover from my 274 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: self care, it's right now. It's maybe not self care, 275 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I shouldn't need a recovery 276 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: day for my self care weekend, you know. So that's 277 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: that's a difference too, is like, um, I'm back in 278 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: the gym, you know, And sometimes you have to cut 279 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: harmful behaviors out and so that you can like actually 280 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: invest in more helpful behaviors. And I think that's been 281 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: a big part of also just staying alive in the pandemic. 282 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: It's like we couldn't do certain things so that we 283 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: can keep doing what we want to do. You know. 284 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: Um that's been a big mind shift change for me. Yeah, 285 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: like that harm reduction of Okay, government is not doing 286 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: what they should be doing, so like how are we 287 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: taking care of ourselves and each other? Because I think 288 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: like now, while not everyone participated or viewed like wearing 289 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: a mask as community care, getting vaccinated as community care, 290 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: I think like a lot of us in our little 291 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: circles like definitely saw like Okay, this is one small 292 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: way that I can enact community care. And it's not 293 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: just like the broad community, but literally like people you 294 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: live with, relatives and also broader community totally like and 295 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: and we still go out and go to a like, 296 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: I don't want you guys to think that, you know, 297 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: we've just thrown out all fun because that also hasn't happened. 298 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: We still do our things and we still go out 299 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: and stuff. But like I was just kind of talking 300 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: to two friends about how, you know, we did our 301 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: first babis Alta of the year. We did it at 302 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: the Virgil, and we were talking about how I used 303 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: to go to the Virgil. Like when I was like three, 304 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: I was at the Virgil every week. That was one 305 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: of the spots religiously, like it was church. I was 306 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: at the Virgil every week. And now it's like I 307 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: had not been to the Virgil in years. I don't 308 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: even know when the last time I went to the Virgil. 309 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: It must have been It's probably been more than five years, 310 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: I want to say. I want to say the last 311 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: time we were at the Virgil was for party, like 312 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: en so yeah, a while, it's been at least five yeah, now, 313 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: and but now I'm there and on the other side 314 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: of things like hosting an event, throwing a party, not 315 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: there to be nuts. You know, it's just different. It's 316 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: just a whole different vibe. So yeah, growth maturity, I 317 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: think that all contributes. Yeah I think so, and yeah, yeah, 318 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: I think like I like think about Okay, I'm I'm 319 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm a procrastinator. I can self sabotage 320 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: my like myself and my journey and work like intensely. 321 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: And so something that I've also been thinking about is 322 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: like preparing for tomorrow like helps you or if like 323 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: you plan for tomorrow, like you're good, and I've I've 324 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: kind of just been writing down these little like affirmations 325 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: or just thoughts about like it's okay, like to be ready, right, 326 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: you gotta stay ready. You don't have to get ready 327 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: kind of thing, because I feel I have been the 328 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: last couple of years, especially now like stepping into like 329 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: really full time full time. Look, it's like, okay, you 330 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: have to hold yourself accountable and like you have to 331 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: do the work and that like all ties into like 332 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: that self care and self love because it's like no 333 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: one else is going to make you do it. You 334 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: have to do it. It's true like as an adult, 335 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, becoming prepared for something is entirely like self 336 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: motivated and self driven no matter what it is, Like 337 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: this is for me also, why like I've been getting 338 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: back into acting. I've done a couple of self tapes 339 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: recently for like parts and like short films UM and 340 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: like a web series that and the stand up. It's 341 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: like I can't just show up and wing it. To 342 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: some extent, I can. The improv is there, but to 343 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: a much larger extent there's you have to have a 344 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: level of preparedness and practice and like your reps under 345 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: your belt so that you can just show up and 346 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: do it and wing it, but you're not really winging 347 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: it because you've been preparing daily, weekly, monthly. And that 348 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: has been really important for me because I think like 349 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: for me UM, growing up, I've always been really good 350 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: at just showing up and just winging it or just 351 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: throwing it together, like I'm really good at bullshitting, you 352 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that is something that I think, Um, 353 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: you'll hear kids who like, oh, I was in the 354 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: gifted program, like I did this, I did that. People 355 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: sometimes almost expect less of you when you're like the 356 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: straight a student, you know what I mean, Like anything 357 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: you do is golden. So like over the years, it's 358 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: also been learning like I can push myself and I 359 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: can actually become better and be better and I can 360 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: prepare for things. And that's part of the self love too, 361 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: is like giving myself the time and the space and 362 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: the preparation to like truly excel at something and get 363 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: better at it and improve, you know, And so like 364 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: the procrastination and the self sabotage is just that, like 365 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: it is self sabotage, Like why am I stopping myself 366 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: from being good at something? Literally? I feel like like 367 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: sometimes like I I have a hard time being bad 368 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: at things. Like the learning curve for me is like 369 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: really hard. It really challenges my like perfectionism. And so 370 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: when I'm like learning something new, if I'm not automatically 371 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: good at it, I don't want to do it. And 372 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: so that has been really challenging to work through. I'm 373 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: doing it. I'm doing things that I'm not automatically good at, 374 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: but it's hard. It's like really pushes you out of 375 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: your comfort zone because it's like, you know what, it's 376 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: actually okay to not automatically be good at things, Like 377 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: that's why you that's why you're learning something, you're doing 378 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: something new, you're trying something, Yeah, like oh I don't 379 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: have to be world class this thing that I just 380 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: tried for the first time. Literally, that's one of my 381 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: favorite Beyonce quotes, right, I want to say it's from Homecome, 382 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: where she talks about how people don't like to rehearse 383 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: because they don't like to look silly and they don't 384 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: like to look like they don't know what they're doing. 385 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: And so rehearsal is very vulnerable, and learning something is 386 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: very vulnerable because it's also admitting I don't know and 387 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to be bad at it for a while 388 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: until I'm not. Yeah, I think like with grad school too, 389 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: like I have like really pushed myself to get better 390 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: at something, like already have a podcasting audio background. How 391 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: can I like even get even better at it? How 392 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: can I tell stories in the best possible way? How 393 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: can I craft a narrative around something? And that also 394 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: has a learning curve? Do I already have a background? Absolutely? 395 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: Do I know everything? No? And so I think that 396 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: has been very enlightening. And also there's a level of 397 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: vulnerability to it as well, because I'm developing something for 398 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: a new where I'm like the soul host and like 399 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: writing the script and so that will come out sometime 400 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: this year. But that's like something I've been actively working 401 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: on It's like really really has like extremely vulnerable exposed. 402 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: So listeners, I don't know if you caught that, but 403 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: that was basically an announcement of a future solo project 404 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: headed up by Biosa yes State TVD, but it's in 405 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: the works. I've been teasing it if you follow me 406 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: on my socials and look like we've been teasing out 407 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: this project for a couple of years. Um, so stay tuned. 408 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: But even just yeah, it's like doing the things that 409 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: scare you, right, telling the story that you're like, oh, 410 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm never going to tell anybody this. You know you're 411 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: going to tell it, and you're telling it now. I 412 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: just know it's going to be really good. You guys 413 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: like you, stay fucking tuned, Like seriously. Yeah, So yeah TVD. 414 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: But um, some thing that I feel like people have 415 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: talked about over the years is can you be in 416 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: a relationship with someone while you're working on yourself while 417 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: you're healing. I feel like there's always a debate about this, 418 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: and so I wanted to pose this question to wrap 419 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: up the conversation about like self love and self care, 420 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: is like, can you be in a relationship with someone 421 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: while you're on your healing journey while you're learning how 422 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: to love yourself, learning how to take care of yourself. 423 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: I would hope, so, you know, I hope, I would 424 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: hope that like folks and relationships are you know, constantly 425 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: like working on themselves and each other. But I also know, 426 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: like I watch enough reality TV to know it doesn't 427 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: matter who you are what you do in life, like 428 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: there's somebody for everybody, and some of the most whacked 429 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: out people like out there in the world have right 430 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: or die boyfriends and husbands and spouses and girlfriends, and 431 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: so it's that thing of like there is a lot 432 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: of kind of like comfort and familiarity and like mutual chaos, 433 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: like sometimes like relationships thrive off of that just mutual dysfunction. Oh, 434 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: take me back to my early twenties. And so it's like, 435 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, that is definitely true, and I would hope 436 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: that that. I think your relationship is a good example 437 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: of like people who are working on themselves like constantly. Yeah, 438 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, yeah, we're both in therapy, we've 439 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: been working on ourselves and then you know, by extension 440 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: the relationship for years. But I think, yeah, like I've 441 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: met my partner when I wasn't ready to be in 442 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: a relationship, but I was like, I think that this 443 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: person is the person, and so I need to get 444 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: my ship together. And I did to get ready to 445 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: get ready to be in this like stable relationship, so 446 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: stable to the point that like the first year, I 447 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: thought it was a boring relationship, remember, because I was 448 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: so used to chaos that I was like, it's just 449 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: this normal? Is this boring? I was constantly questioning everything 450 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: the first year until like you get settled and like, 451 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: oh no, this is just like a healthy relationship where 452 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: two people want to be together and there's no fighting, 453 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: like obviously disagreements, but there's nothing volatile about the relationship. 454 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: And I think but also on the flip side, like 455 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: he was at a point where he had done a 456 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: lot of work, where had we met five years, but 457 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: prior it definitely would not have worked, like he was 458 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: a different person. So I think, yeah, I think it 459 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: just depends on where people are on their respective journeys. 460 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: Timing is everything. Timing is everything I think about too, 461 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Like m hmm, okay, So I feel like there are 462 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: celebrities where like they were in wild relationships and then 463 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: you see that celeb mature and grow and come out 464 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: of it. I mean, I think Angelina Jolie is like 465 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: one of the examples. I remember early Angelina, you know, 466 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: Angelina and Billy Bob, Angelina and her brother Angelina and 467 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: the blood in the necklace Billy Bob's blood and then 468 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: you know Brangelina, and like, I feel like Angelina was 469 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: this projected to be this very wild, like weird, hyper 470 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: sexual vampi celeb back that you know, she has now 471 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: come to be known as this like philanthropist and this 472 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: speaker and someone who's like a leading lady and you know, 473 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: very poised, and it's just interesting and fascinating to watch, 474 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, the trajectory and how so much of that 475 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: image of her was rooted in her relationship specifically, you know, 476 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: so like I look at her and then of course, 477 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think Brittany is an ever evolving person 478 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: and situation. I think a lot of the like toxicity 479 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: around Brittany's image was also like it was Kevin Federline 480 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: and like the men that she was with um and 481 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, she's been through so much and I feel 482 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: like she's still evolving and figuring herself out now that 483 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: the the conservative conservativeship has been lifted. He has been lifted, 484 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean there's a whole I don't 485 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: want to dive into it because it's all conspiracy. But 486 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: there's like a whole conversation about Brittany happening on TikTok 487 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: Um that I won't like I said, I won't dive into, 488 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: but I think, yeah, that's that's She is like one 489 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: example of you know, there's been all these like think 490 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: pieces about how the media has done her wrong and 491 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: failed her back then, but then you see these other 492 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: example is like how it continues to do so with 493 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: like me, the media specifically not with just her, but 494 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: Amber heard and countless other women over the years. Like 495 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: nothing has really changed in regards to how society like 496 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: views and projects lots of things onto women. Oh yeah, 497 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: I feel like we have. It's like we still haven't 498 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: learned her less and with Brittany. People are still big 499 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: me into Brittany. Yes, yeah, so I don't so, I 500 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Leave Britnie alone. Once again, 501 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: it's still relevant, still relevant, I know. Wow. Okay, any 502 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: final thoughts on well, I guess okay, So we have 503 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: this year Valentine's is coming up. Um. You know a 504 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: lot of people over the years have come up with 505 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: different ways to celebrate the holiday. People will do gallantines, 506 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: people will do like speed dating, lonely hearts. People will 507 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: do your classic you know, dinner and a movie. What 508 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: do you have going on for Valentine's this year? I'm 509 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: hosting a little Galantine's so are with some of my 510 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: close friends. Of course you're invited, But I think, yeah, 511 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be very intentional about like hosting this year, 512 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: like hosting my friends, spending time like away from just 513 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: having like more intimate gatherings as opposed to you know, 514 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: we go to an event, we go to a party, 515 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: even like with you like so much of when we're 516 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: together we're working, right, and so how do we create 517 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: space and time outside of the work life so that 518 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: we can have a friendship And so yeah, I think 519 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm being very intentional. My goal is to be very 520 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: intentional this year about having gatherings with like my very 521 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: close friends. Um, because a lot of y'all are either 522 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: friends or like have just gotten to know each other 523 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: over the years and can vibe and you know, hang 524 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: out and there's no awkwardness or drama, so that's nice. 525 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what I think I'm doing this year 526 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: for Valentine's Day. Valentine's que cute. I got booked to 527 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: do a stand up comedy show on Valentine's Day and 528 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: I was free, so I said, yes, I will be there, 529 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: so um more details to come. It'll probably I'll be 530 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: posting on my Instagram the flyer I'm at Mala Underscore 531 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: when if you want to come through, if you want 532 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: to get some giggles in on Valentine's Day. Also, you know, 533 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: I am still dating the guy that I'm atta the 534 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: Torty Ship Air and he's planning something for us. It's 535 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: not going to be on Valentine's Day proper because he's filming. 536 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: He's going to be out of town, but he is 537 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: planning something for us, and I will update you guys. Okay, 538 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait. It sounds sounds juicy, So I'm excited. 539 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I know. I know we're really into like experienced based 540 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: outings and activities these days. Yeah, and I'm like filling 541 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: people in on my TikTok. I'm just wanting. I'm just 542 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: trying to be one of the like dating content girlies. 543 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I feel like you have like kind 544 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: of documented stuff over the years, like whether that be 545 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: through the podcast or your social like with happenings. Yeah, 546 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: we're just making it official. So I'm at Mala underscore 547 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: when I talked about my first date with the Tortilla 548 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: Chip air. If you guys are not on TikTok, go 549 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: check it out. It was actually super fun. He took 550 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: me to the same doctor that that did Chloe Kardashian's 551 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: brain scan, and I got my own brain scan. It 552 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: was really romantic. I have no questions. They're good. I'm 553 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: letting that one go. Yeah, you can inform me later. Um, 554 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: so let us know what you think about amor propio, 555 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: self love, self care and like, how has that evolved 556 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: for you over the years, How are you defining it, 557 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: how are you practicing it in your own life now? 558 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: How are you loving yourself? Boom boom. 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