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Speaker 1: up anytime say hello. And you know what Blue also

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Speaker 1: thought of, why don't we start shouting people out at

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Speaker 1: You know who gave me that idea was Amy, And

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Speaker 1: because why don't you guys shout people out at the

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Speaker 1: good idea. You know what I'm gonna do that. Let's there,

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Speaker 1: of fact, I'm shouting you out, Amy for coming up

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I think it is too. Yeah. Of

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Speaker 1: course this article is actually coming out in a national

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Speaker 1: uh National Law Review dot com. It's about cannabis farmers

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Speaker 1: during the whole problem of the pandemic, the cannabis industry

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Speaker 1: was being neglected the whole time, right and because I

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Speaker 1: financially from the government is because it was essential, It

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Speaker 1: was essential in your business. But the farmers and stuff

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Speaker 1: So taxing a lot of growers were growing a lot

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to to kind of get that,

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Speaker 1: article a little more. Yeah, so, Governor Knutson, UM, actually

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Speaker 1: today is the thirty one tomorrow will be implemented, is

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Speaker 1: think it's a great or something, Right, that's a great

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Speaker 1: So definitely this is a great play. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: slashed every year. And you're like men and I grow outdoor.

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Speaker 1: and and producing some of the best cannabis, and then

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Speaker 1: it makes me feel like, you know, all the hard

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Speaker 1: It's his families. Like you look at these cats. We

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Speaker 1: compromises that have caused them to lose their integrity. And

427
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Speaker 1: I think part of me showing up this way without

428
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Speaker 1: any other political experiences to say I am an individual,

429
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: I am an average citizen. I'm here to do what

430
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: is right by the people and not be swayed by

431
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 1: special interests. And I think that there's a lot of people,

432
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: particularly in the last two years, that have seen that

433
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Speaker 1: this is not working and they're ready for a new future.

434
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: They're ready for a new cohort of people to show

435
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: up in politics today, in this particular midterm and do

436
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: something different. And so I think everybody kind of sees

437
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: what you're talking about and are is ready to support

438
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: the change. Well, hey, thank you for taking that step.

439
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: But one can I go step back here and talk

440
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Speaker 1: about how us and veteran why did you get into cannabis?

441
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: What turned you on in you know, building your business? Sure, Uh,

442
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really have any aspirations to get

443
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Speaker 1: into cannabis. I got out of the military at the

444
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: request of a mentor resign my commission. I got home

445
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Speaker 1: and uh, I live and I was born and raised

446
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: in Sonoma County, and you know, it is a lot

447
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: of people say it's like the southern tip of the

448
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: Emerald Triangle. So I grew up surrounded by the cannabis culture.

449
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: Left at eighteen and then kind of went on about

450
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: my life and came home to it. Then was subject

451
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: to several businesses in the area that sought out the

452
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: firm I worked for, and they were in the canvas industry.

453
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Speaker 1: They brought us in to do review and analysis, etcetera.

454
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: So I poured into everything and began to say, you know,

455
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: there's a real opportunity here. Um, you know, this is

456
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Speaker 1: a new economic activity we have and we have an

457
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Speaker 1: ability to kind of start an industry in a um

458
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: tablar rossa you know, a blank slate scenario where we

459
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: the you know, the people who are involved can really

460
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: put our design into it. And uh, you know that

461
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: was that was the draw That was the thing that said,

462
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Speaker 1: here's a way to create an a sector from scratch,

463
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Speaker 1: and do it the right way. Do it um, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: sound reasonable, responsible way, and uh, you know, the reality

465
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: was something very different. So that's because of the regulations

466
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: and so on. Yeah, that's a great point, and that's

467
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: you know, I know you've worked closely in the beginning

468
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Speaker 1: of actually went um Prop six four one past and everything.

469
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Speaker 1: But you know it's so hard obviously myself being a

470
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Speaker 1: cannabis business owner and we're dealing with over regulations and

471
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Speaker 1: heavy taxes. Does seem like a little light out of

472
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Speaker 1: the tunnel came with what the Governor Newsom wants to

473
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Speaker 1: propose with the cultivation tax and moving more of the

474
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Speaker 1: taxation going down to retail versus going back to distributor.

475
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: Seems like it could streamline things and bring more people

476
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Speaker 1: from the listed market into the legalized market. How are

477
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Speaker 1: your views? And then like, what do you think this

478
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: is just a bunch of you know, kind of service

479
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: like not gonna happen, or do you think they're starting

480
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: to hear us loud and clear and Sacramento that something's

481
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Speaker 1: got to change. Sadly, I don't think we're gonna see

482
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Speaker 1: much material change. I think it's a lot of moving

483
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: ones and zeros around. Um, it's it's a reshuffle to

484
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Speaker 1: make it seem like there's something happening. But my my

485
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: assessment of projects before that was specifically designed to destroy

486
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: the small farmer. It's written in a way that doesn't

487
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Speaker 1: allow for economies of scale, particularly those scales that you

488
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: see at a craft level. Um, you know, from your

489
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: ten thousand or thirty thousand square foot farms. It's just

490
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Speaker 1: it's not possible. And I don't think that we're going

491
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Speaker 1: to see a lot of real effort from the State

492
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Speaker 1: of California as it relates to creating relief for the

493
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Speaker 1: cannabis industry and those from you know, these small farmers.

494
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Speaker 1: I just I would love to believe that that's an

495
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Speaker 1: intent excuse me, an intent of of state government. But

496
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Speaker 1: my firsthand experience leads me to the conclusion that it's

497
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Speaker 1: not as you run for Congress, Chris, do you see

498
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Speaker 1: yourself being in a position to help change that scenario

499
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: and situation that you're describing. Absolutely. You know, the district

500
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Speaker 1: that I'm running for is arguably the cradle or the

501
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: heartland of American cannabis. Uh it's you know, it covers Mendicino, Humble, Trinity,

502
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Speaker 1: and obviously Sonoma County in addition to Marin County and

503
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: uh Del nort And you know this is this is

504
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: where the cannabis industry that we all know not only

505
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: in the licensed side, but in the unlicensed side in

506
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: the world. Come on, you just know that period. I'm

507
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: just saying, everybody knows that. You know, I mean you

508
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: should if you were in the cannabis a game, at

509
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: least you should know of it. Yeah, and we need

510
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Speaker 1: somebody to take the lead on that, on that conversation

511
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Speaker 1: at the federal level. You know, we've we've got other

512
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Speaker 1: special interests that are attempting to put their mark on

513
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Speaker 1: the cannabis structure. And that's a really important element for

514
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Speaker 1: someone that has experienced in small business and has experienced

515
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Speaker 1: in small business for cannabis to be there at the table,

516
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: because right now what we're watching is cannabis companies and

517
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Speaker 1: organizations spend tens of millions of dollars in an attempt

518
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: to lobby for some sort of reasonable regulatory structure. And

519
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that what we're going to see something that

520
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: looks a lot like Prop sixty four and the impact

521
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: that Prop sixty before had in California playing out in

522
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: the in the national realm. I'm glad that there's somebody

523
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: like Representative Mace who's really trying to make a reasonable

524
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: and rational framework to work from, but we usually need

525
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Speaker 1: to help. We need more people that are ready to

526
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Speaker 1: stand up. And my contention is that if I were elected,

527
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: that there wouldn't be any other member of Congress who

528
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: could bring to the table the type of experience and

529
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: firsthand understanding about cannabis as an operation and cannabis as

530
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Speaker 1: a regulatory body. You know, I would argue that I'd

531
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Speaker 1: probably be the top person there, and I don't think

532
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Speaker 1: that we have that right now. And that's why one

533
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why you will continue to watch cannabis,

534
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: both in California and elsewhere suffer immensely. Wow you know,

535
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: everything you're saying I really admire. And then I'm thinking, going,

536
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: how tough is it gonna be for you to go

537
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: to Congress and convince these idiots that are up there

538
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: everything you're describing, Because I'm going, you're a veteran, you's

539
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: this year that I'm like, it's gotta be harder jumping

540
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: out of a helicopter when you're when your strap breaks

541
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: and you figure that out because you're the type of

542
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: guy that figures out how to get out of that situation,

543
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean like, and you're the type

544
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: of guy that teaches people how to get out of

545
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: that situation. So this is the guy that's going to Congress.

546
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Folks like my man Brian's known as Mr Badass, this

547
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: guy would be known as Mr Helicopter and my phone well,

548
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: because he's gonna teach you how to get out of

549
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: a helicopter if it's going down and everything else he's

550
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: gonna At my point to that scenario is Chris is

551
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to Congress to educate, to inform

552
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: These are crazy different times. You're right, you're from that county,

553
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: you get it. Let me explain what's going on in

554
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: a better way, because what's going on out there isn't right.

555
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: Like when you describe like okay, is that gonna even happen?

556
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: The bigger question is, Chris, let's just play the favorite

557
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: and say you in, You're in Okay? Now what how

558
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: long before this ship happens? Chris? Now the fucking targets

559
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: on your back talk to me. Uh. As of right now,

560
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: I think best case scenario for federal legalization, we're probably

561
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: looking somewhere between. I think you're gonna watch a legalization

562
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: process correspond with Gavin Newsom's presidential campaign. Uh, And I

563
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's probably some correlations there. But I

564
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: think if we get enough people into Congress at this

565
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: mid term, and I believe that there's a lot of

566
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: veterans that are standing up in this particular med term,

567
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: and I think that's largely because we're concerned on a

568
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: bigger level, you know, in the bigger pay Sure, we're

569
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: very concerned about the direction of this country. But then

570
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: speaking specifically to economics in the business environment, we need

571
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: people with small business experience to represent that that element

572
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: of our economy and make sure that we have a sound,

573
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: well balanced economy. But as it relates to cannabis. I

574
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: think if we have you know, a new um, we

575
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: have a new Congress showing up, and we have new

576
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: people in Congress showing up, I think you'll see a

577
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: lot of people, particularly from Midwest states and those you know.

578
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: I think it's forty something other states that have you

579
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: medical cannabis or or a cannabis legalization in some form

580
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: or another. I think if you take that indicator, you

581
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: can see that there are people that are running for

582
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Congress that are ready to just say, let's just get

583
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: cannabis legalized. Let's get these businesses off the ground. Let's

584
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Speaker 1: let the United States compete globally in the cannabis market.

585
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Speaker 1: Because everybody in this conversation is well aware that the

586
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: world loves American cannabis, and everybody in this conversation knows

587
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: that there is specific and substantial demand for California cannabis

588
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: around the world. Those are empirically demonstrated facts. And for

589
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: us to not be us being California, California cannabis companies

590
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: or growers, to not have access to that global market

591
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: which we already have built, is us just throwing away money.

592
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: And you know, as we watch all of these companies

593
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: bleed to death. All of these candidate license cannabis companies

594
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: bleed to death in California. The number one thing that

595
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: the cannabis industry can do to save itself because California

596
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: is not going to make the adjustments necessary and a

597
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: reasonable about reasonable amount of time. The next best thing

598
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: that we can do is federal legalization, which then increases

599
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: access to market size and to a global market. At

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Speaker 1: that point, your license becomes almost invaluable. Yeah, absolutely, Chris.

601
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that really concerns me

602
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: about this period we are in with cannabis is a

603
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: very critical moment. You have the More Act out there,

604
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: which I'm not a fan of. It decriminalizes is a

605
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: five percent tax that turns into eight percent taxes and

606
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: do anything with scheduling. You got Chuck Schumer's I'm just

607
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna call it the taximus maximus bill, I mean percent

608
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: federal taxes insanity. And then you have Rep. Mace, which

609
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: is very federalist bill where it legalizes cannabis, removes it

610
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: from the schedule VA. Doctors can prescribe it, keyword being

611
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: they can prescribe it, and it comes with a three

612
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: percent federal tax I'm really concerned about United States Cannabis

613
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Coalition when I see who's in that group, and it's

614
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: a lot of big hitters, like big big companies. I

615
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: really think the agenda is is to tax us out

616
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: and let's just be some big consolidation moment where the

617
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: big corporations can kind of take over cannabis. I mean

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Speaker 1: the American dream, Brian, that's what you're describing. I mean,

619
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Speaker 1: everything you're describing right now, I'm like, Okay, isn't that

620
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: what this country was built on? Exactly? So what you're

621
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: describing is what's been happening for the evolution of life

622
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: here as we exist in the United States of America.

623
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Very true, right, I Mean if just think about what

624
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: you just said, I could take out who you're talking about.

625
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm like that that just described what this foundation was

626
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: built on. Yes, yeah, it's a great point. But you

627
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: gotta think too. The scary part is when these people

628
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: get power, history repeat itself. I mean, doesn't it We

629
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: use the word in sanity earlier for Chris. I mean

630
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: it does, yeah, sure, and and it's unfortunate or fortunate

631
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: or it is what it is are getting Where you

632
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: fit in but I think what you're describing, Yeah, of

633
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: course it is. Yeah, yeah, exactly right, and that's the problem. Yeah,

634
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: and before it gets that fun part, you hope you

635
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: can get people in there like a Chris who gets it,

636
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: wants to help out the things. Enough, Chris is gonna

637
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: get in there, artist, Chris get in there in the

638
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: dark side, gets him and he puts on the fucking

639
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: Vader suit and if he Darth Vader. Look it up.

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Speaker 1: You two can come to the dark. Sorry, Joe, come

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Speaker 1: with us. Don't don't do that inside the light here, man?

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00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: And what is who knows how many times have we

643
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: seen that in real business? Exactly? You guys think I'm joking,

644
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm kind of kidding, and I'm not

645
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Speaker 1: Like what I just described happens on a daily basis, right,

646
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: Guys like this, who are brothers that are voting in

647
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Speaker 1: real life Congress, in real life mayors and cities and

648
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: this and that that same dude you played baseball with

649
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: who's now running for mayor who now goes na Dude,

650
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Speaker 1: we gotta do it differently now because you don't understand

651
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: it's politics, and now, Chris, it could happen Brian you

652
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: really don't understand why it's fucking politics. That is a

653
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: very scary point. It's crazy, you know what I'm saying.

654
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Speaker 1: Chris is gonna say what I'm saying. We've seen it happen.

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Speaker 1: We have. I mean, I'll just bring up example. I'll

656
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Speaker 1: say the word Trump, which I know triggers people, but

657
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Mitch McConnell's like, well, he needs to

658
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: understand things move slower here in d C. And Trump

659
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: was like, what the hell do you mean it has

660
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: to move slower, Like it's the right thing to do.

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00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: Let's get it done. I thought that way the right

662
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: thing to do, get done. So but anyway, Chris, get done.

663
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the one that gets you done. But

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Speaker 1: the change that happened by one person at a time,

665
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: and it doesn't and guess what, And it does happen

666
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: effectively day by day, moment by moment, And it's moments

667
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: like this with Chris, who banking for serving, protecting, doing

668
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: your due. You're helping others do. They're doing the military

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00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: to teach more. And now you're consistently going back and

670
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: teaching and helping others as you're running for Congress. What state, California.

671
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: It's all in our ballots right now. I can go

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00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: vote right now, mail out. If you're listening to this,

673
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: make sure you do at least the mailed out, walk in,

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00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: go online, make sure you're registered as a voter. Chris,

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00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: good luck to you man, And like you said, hopefully

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00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: it happens federally in the next few years. I still

677
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: think it's so crazy to think if it does, because

678
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: so many things need to happen in line, and until

679
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: those things happen in line, it can't happen. So before

680
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: we see some of these things that need to happen

681
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: in line, then then you know, it's like, okay, those

682
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: like banking first off, I mean that you can't go

683
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: federally without what banking you you can't go federally with

684
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: banking without what federally legalization? Okay, tomato tomatow good one. Well,

685
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: let's start with the other one from right away to

686
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: like even with packaging and uh, you know, see the sales.

687
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: What's gonna be fully legal from that aspect if it

688
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: does go legal, this is the way it needs to

689
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: be across the board. So therefore we're gonna need to

690
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Speaker 1: see those things in order that I have nothing to

691
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: do with any of the other things where the transactions

692
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: happen afterwards. In my opinions, Yeah, and I think a

693
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: really good thing that's a strong suit for Chris is

694
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: everyone thinks, okay, what if they open up interstate commerce

695
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, listen, you know, big quack, But a

696
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: guy like Chris who has a background in transportation, how

697
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: to distribute that might be some common sense coming to

698
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: which would be And not only that he's from the

699
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: area where the biggest transactions of those And here's the

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00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: other worst part about this scenario, gentleman that has to

701
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: be brought up, is your guys are gonna go have

702
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 1: to back to hiring cats that you guys helped train

703
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: back in the days, because now those transportations are gonna

704
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: have to have vehicles on the sides where you guys

705
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: coming to play are a helicopter that you wrote in

706
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: a vehicle that you you know what I mean. All

707
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: bullshit aside, though, when you're pushing that much way, you

708
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: need to figure that one out. We need to figure

709
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: the security for that much way can you push around

710
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: because now we're moving the big truckload like Costco does

711
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: it but they're not worried about it when they're doing

712
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: our Budweiser, are Jack Daniels or whoever else? Those are

713
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Speaker 1: big boatloads. Back in the moonshine days, they used to

714
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Speaker 1: worry shop that and they used to get those. I

715
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a bigger deal too in the

716
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: early days of the cannabis movement. Yes, yeah, that's something

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00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: I always think about interstate commercething like that. It's gonna

718
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: be a those are gonna get hit hard, absolutely. I

719
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: mean we've seen him happen all the time anyways. So

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00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: now when it happens legally, it's almost like the legal

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00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: the money pickups, you know what I mean, it's the

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00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: same kind of concept in my book. Yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'm always I'm even worried too, like way stations and

724
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: how much can you transport through a state and this

725
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: and that is the stay can have a different role

726
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: in that state. Hopefully common sense legislation can come out.

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00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: That's why you get guys like Chris. Obviously I'm biased

728
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: because he's a veteran, but everything he's saying small business

729
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: helping out, having industry experience, being passionate about the plant

730
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: that is what's gonna help move the dial here First,

731
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: the people who've been there forever who put these Frankenstein

732
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: bills together. We need to get some common sense legislations

733
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Speaker 1: so we can flourish, because, to Chris's point, we are

734
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: seeing on a gold mine for economic relief for a

735
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: lot of people, for jobs, things that we can do.

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Speaker 1: We can lead the world in it, and we just

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00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: hope we don't mess it up, kind of like what

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Speaker 1: PROPS sixty four messed up for California. Does that make sense? Chris, Yeah, absolutely,

739
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: absolutely well, Chris to Congress dot com is the website

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Speaker 1: to go over there support him. We wish you nothing

741
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Speaker 1: but the best of luck. It's Cannabis Talk one oh

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Speaker 1: one with Blue and Joe Grande. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: after this. We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one

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Speaker 1: finished mine and I can't put mine up, which is

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Speaker 1: even funnier. Um, you know, we still thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: out there. We got Cam over here with us. Cam

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Speaker 1: does a great story that you shared at US as well.

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Speaker 1: I want to share with you, guys something that money. Cash.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, what is your name? Camp? We called you

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Speaker 1: Cam earlier and I was like Cam and that said

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Speaker 1: that said, did you mean cash? Because I should I

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Speaker 1: go get cash. That's horrible. I'm sorry, you know, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not all good. It's terrible. You guys. I want

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Speaker 1: to share this with you because I hope this happens

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00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: so much sooner than later that this story. I'm about

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Speaker 1: to break to you guys. And I don't say break

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I've heard this story since I

771
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: was a little kid, and so have you. Hemp ethanol

772
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: could replace gas at cost four times less at the pump.

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Speaker 1: How much quicker do we need this to happen in life?

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Speaker 1: And how much longer have we heard this as a kids,

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Speaker 1: like as cannabis been told to this, like you know,

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00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: I mean, like we've heard these mystery stories. Right Once legal,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take over this. You're gonna buy your pants,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna buy your shirt, You're gonna buy the gas.

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Speaker 1: That's more than ever I own. I own Hemp motor

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Speaker 1: oil and cannabis motor oil. I owned Hemp motor oil.

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Speaker 1: I own motor oil uh, Hemp dot com, Hemp motor

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Speaker 1: oil dot com. I own a bunch of them because

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Speaker 1: I believe that they're gonna starting motor oil blue. Here's

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Speaker 1: what you believe. Hemp ethanol what cost about a quarter

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Speaker 1: of what gasoline costs at the p A quarter, folks,

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Speaker 1: Right now, I just filled up my damn car for

787
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventeen dollars. I'll take a quarter. Listen,

788
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: that ain't and I'll bet you with just a fraction

789
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: of the governmental subsidies, you guys, if we grew more

790
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: of it, which is kind of crazy. I think if

791
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: we grew more of it, when sometimes the croctobers and

792
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: this and that there's too much, let's go more cannabis.

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Speaker 1: Why buel fuel, you guys, bio fuel expert Tim Castleman

794
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: is telling us this. In two thousand one, Castleman published

795
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Speaker 1: a research paper on his company method for producing hemp

796
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Speaker 1: ethanol and how much it would cost if produced on

797
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Speaker 1: a large scale. This is a type of research that

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Speaker 1: I want you guys to follow along with because this

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Speaker 1: is what we need. And now it's not stamped and stuff,

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Speaker 1: but it's like, this is the guideline. Now, let's get

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Speaker 1: this done. How about that his fuel and Fiber company

802
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Speaker 1: could produce hemp ethanol that would cost around thirty seven

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Speaker 1: cents a gallon at the pump. Wow, that's that's probably

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Speaker 1: the raw cost. Okay, exactly, So let's put a little

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Speaker 1: bit more on thirty seven. I'm fine with that five

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Speaker 1: dollar seven. Know what's funny when you put something like

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00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: so ridiculous like that, you save everybody money and go

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Speaker 1: four dollars and thirty seven cents for God's sakes. Okay,

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00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: but bottom line, that's about a quarter of what gas

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Speaker 1: costs at this time when are you ready for this?

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Speaker 1: When the average price pump was a dollar forty nine

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Speaker 1: a gallon, they could have went for thirty seven. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. So that's that I bet you burns cleaner.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a better, it's better on our environment.

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Speaker 1: And um, I do believe that it can be produced

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Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, and so you know, you don't

817
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: have to use certain climates. I think we can almost

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Speaker 1: produce it just about anywhere, you know, except for like

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Speaker 1: really high climate, like you know, super hot and super cold,

820
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: but almost anywhere. I think you could get the weeds

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Speaker 1: at you know what I mean. Like someone was the

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Speaker 1: guys that came on the last week, Jason and John

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Speaker 1: from a Huckleberry and uh Ridge Ridge edge line or

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Speaker 1: Ridgeline farm, you know, they were they were like, you know,

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Speaker 1: oh it was actually the guy that came after them.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, and was those guys are talking

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Speaker 1: about how like you ever seen like in a crack

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Speaker 1: on the ground where you know, they they've got this

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Speaker 1: huge you know, weed coming out of it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like there's a huge crack, there's just

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Speaker 1: a little crack in the ground, there's this huge weed.

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Speaker 1: You know, coming right out of the ground and you're like,

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Speaker 1: damn this that? Yeah, how that thing blow up and

834
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Speaker 1: grow up so high? And it's a it's a weed.

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Speaker 1: You know, it didn't have no water, it had just

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Speaker 1: the right elements that hit and then bam it's sprouted.

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Speaker 1: So once we master this plant, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: I often think that there's there's very intelligent people that

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Speaker 1: have been growing for a lot of years that aren't

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00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: being um rewarded. And then there's a lot of people

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00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: that are pretending to be you know, professionals, and there

842
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: are being rewarded and they're they're starting to get better.

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00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: But I don't think that it's been you know, um,

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Speaker 1: let's see brainstormed with the hottest and most intelligent people

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Speaker 1: in our in our community. And I agree with everything

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Speaker 1: you're saying, by the way, Blue, and I just feel

847
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: like a story like this hopefully pushes that envelope more

848
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Speaker 1: because one of the next line in here, which I

849
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Speaker 1: want to point out to everybody, which is true, maybe

850
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Speaker 1: you're thinking and it says, so, why hasn't this happened yet?

851
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Right so, because and what I'm gonna tell you why

852
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: we're not using it? Which in the paper this this

853
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: guy put this since two eighteen, that's when the farm

854
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: bill passed. That's when we can start growing cannabis all

855
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: over this place legally. So therefore, we can't legally produce

856
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: enough to even create this bio gas that they're trying

857
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: to do, because it's gonna take a massive amount of

858
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: cannabis to our hamps to do this, right, So I

859
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: see the logic going only twoeen we've been able to

860
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: do these plants, these grows, legally, massive grows. So my

861
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: point is we have land in this country, folks, I

862
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: would say that. I would say that, yeah, it's part

863
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: of the plants, but it's literally the infrastructure, the transportation

864
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: of the oil, everything that's in between from from the

865
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: seed to sale that needs to be put in place.

866
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: That costs even more money. Thirty five cents is great,

867
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: but that's for something. Now you're looking at the cannabis

868
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: for something out this is for gas. The process would

869
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: be maybe and I don't know if it's the same

870
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: process as far as but using it the plant for that.

871
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people will argue that it's it's

872
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: everything in between that we don't have for these hemp

873
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: products to be used at a mass scale, Like why

874
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: don't we have hemp shirts right now? Because people are

875
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: not processing hemp? People doing well and not not that

876
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, to produce hamp, it's more expensive, like

877
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: people say, but they're saying it could be and it

878
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: should be less, but unfortunately it's not because there isn't

879
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: this The establishments aren't set up that way because there

880
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: are huge people that are that have cotton farms that

881
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: are racking through so much cotton and they've got the

882
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: machines to build it. But as we start getting more

883
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: intelligent and more people start investing more capital and buying

884
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: bigger machines and producing more, that price will scale down.

885
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: And what will essentially happen is we'll have a more

886
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: uh you know, a more durable product, a more sustainable product,

887
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: a more environmentally friendly products that is going to allow

888
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: us to actually have something great in the in the

889
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: in the universe. And again, it's biodegradable. So when you

890
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: start talking about like you know, hey, I'm gonna throw

891
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: this this T shirt away, you know that's fine, you

892
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: throw it away. And and yes, maybe of it may

893
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: not be biodegradable, but eighty percent of it is, and

894
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: that is good on our environment and good for our people.

895
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: So great when you say these poetic things like this,

896
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: and when we hear it, because it's just like, yeah,

897
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: it's real, it's like it's just really like, yeah, it's right.

898
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: Why why wouldn't you? Right, here's something real right now

899
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna blow your guys mind with ray. I

900
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: wasn't getting this next one, but it just goes hand

901
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: in hand with blowing your way and the meaning. Facts

902
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: like everything he's saying to me or are just great facts, right,

903
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: another financial fact of what cannabis did in New Jersey?

904
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: What do you gentlemen think? And the first let's just go,

905
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: let me see what it says here. First month, within

906
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: a month, the first month, a dozen locations, according to

907
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: cannabis regulatory Commissions wrote down on a number of what

908
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: New Jersey legal cannabis sales reached within one month, a

909
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: dozen locations, twelve locations in one month, the New Jersey

910
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: gave I'm gonna just tell you guys, twenty four million

911
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: dollars twelve stores one month. Folks, these are numbers and

912
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: facts and stats. When you're sitting there going how can

913
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: our state fix those crack roads. How could our city

914
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: fix this? How could our state do that? This in

915
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: one month made twenty four million dollars on a dozen stores. Well, yeah,

916
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: twelve locations. Yeah, that's that's amazing. And most of those

917
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: locations in Jersey, if I'm not wrong, our delivery locations,

918
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: delivery delivery, like you know the area, well right, a

919
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit, a little bit, but they

920
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of cannabis underground canvas clubs, but now

921
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: they're not counting those ones, but the most of them

922
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: are delivery likes. Well, it was about say, you know,

923
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta sit back and think of the

924
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: stores that that you know, they're talking about companies that

925
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: are licensed legiti and so you're talking about million and

926
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: when I when I want yeah, Well, well, like people,

927
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: people underestimate. I think what the cannabis plant has, what

928
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: it does, what it is, and I think there's a

929
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: very important you know, uh, part to this is that

930
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: people don't realize that this plant has sustained families amongst

931
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: families across the universe, across the world. This isn't about

932
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: New Jersey, this isn't about Canada, this isn't about Mexico.

933
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: This isn't about Russia, this isn't about China, Japan, everywhere.

934
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: This is about the universe. This plant has sustained families

935
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: throughout the universe. So when you when you think of that,

936
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, you know, or I guess throughout

937
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: the world you know, you know, but you know, but

938
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's been there though, um it, we'd be

939
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: crazy to think it hasn't, you know. But but the

940
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: thought thought behind it is is that think about how

941
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: big that the ecosystem is and how we've barely started

942
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: to scratch the surface, and and now for the first time,

943
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: we're starting to believe in this plant because there's in it.

944
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: My family always tells me, like, you you've been pushing

945
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: it since it wasn't cool, you know what I mean.

946
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: Like I've been in my faces with family, jobs, everything, like, Yo,

947
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: cannabis is cool, Like it's good. Like I I think

948
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: there's abuse in anything, you know, Like there's a point

949
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: in my life where I abused cannabis. Hund percent dude,

950
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't give a ship to anybody says yeah,

951
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: I abused it, you know, and I've I've had you know,

952
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: our fellow partners and friends say there's no such thing,

953
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I felt like I was abusing

954
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: the ship. You know what I'm saying. I know that

955
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: How can anybody say you can't when that you're feeling

956
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: and joy? What do you mean? But but it's very

957
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: important that you realize that it's finally coming to a

958
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: point where people are just starting to actually go wow.

959
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: And not only well because of all the anecdotals and

960
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: because of the you know this company, that company producing

961
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: products where look at what it does, where you're not

962
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: just smoking a joint, You're putting up medicine, so to speak,

963
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: underneath your tongue. You're rubbing a product on your body

964
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: where it hurts. It's being looked at and treated differently

965
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: rather than only smoking a joint, bongloader, now this, you know,

966
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: dabbing or this and that, where those are more of

967
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: the recreational use, but it's also has a full direction.

968
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: And I personally look at even vaping what I use

969
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: these pins as straight medical, like I wouldn't smoke a

970
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: joint why because to me, that's not why I'm gonna

971
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: treat my medicine body. I treat cannabis for me with

972
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: a pin. When I'm in pain, I can hit the

973
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: pin because it treats my pain. These numbers represent the

974
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: trend that's inevitable. It's gonna get popular, it's gonna raise

975
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: in the billions, it's gonna be international, there's gonna be

976
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: international trade. Get ready for us to be comparing weed

977
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: from around the world to it was the real top dog,

978
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A lot of people talking

979
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: about Israel. California is bringing it. I can't wait to

980
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: see what Israel does because I feel like Israel's ahead

981
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: of the game. And I want to see Amsterdam jump

982
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: in the game because they've been so popular as far

983
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: as the destination cannabis spot for years. And I can't

984
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: wait for us to throw the first International Cup. Exactly

985
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And just to give you an

986
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: insight to it, was a dozen stores that opened up

987
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: state wide on a cannabis for those twenty one um

988
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: and over. Then they did a drawing of twelve thousand

989
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: customers with a total sale of nearly one point nine

990
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: million on the day. One five more locations were approved

991
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: to sell adult cannabis by the CRC following meeting. Exactly

992
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: and then they had twenty one new cultivators and thirteen

993
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: manufacturers out there as well. And um I did a

994
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 1: little project at Oaksterdam UM about Hoboken in Jersey and

995
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: and getting the process done when it comes to getting

996
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: your licenses, and they streamline the whole process online. If

997
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: you ever go to Hoboken's uh uh city website, it's

998
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: literally they give you two steps to open up your

999
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: dispensary in the most clearest way, unlike California, like jumping

1000
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: through hoops, like how do I it to this? How

1001
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: do I get to that? You know. So it's it's

1002
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: really easy out there to get your own license out there,

1003
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: and I encourage it for everybody to get into the game.

1004
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: On the East Coast and you're doing the schooling Hume,

1005
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: do you like it? Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. It's online, right,

1006
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: it's online doing whatever you want, whenever you want. Yeah, man, yeah, man.

1007
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: So East Coast is definitely bringing it to bringing it

1008
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: to the game right now. New Jersey is doing it

1009
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: all these It seems like making a lot of noise

1010
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: with the cannabis game, and I feel like a lot

1011
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: of trucks are headed that way. Yeah, there's social equity.

1012
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: Their social equity is a lot of people are really

1013
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: uh champion it because it's showing a good example of

1014
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: like how to giving back to the communities have been suffering.

1015
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: So a lot Yeah, they have a good playbook over there. Well,

1016
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: thank you Cash, thank you Brian Buckley, but coming on

1017
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: with us, and of course thank you Chris. Good luck

1018
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: out there is running for Congress. Remember this guy's Cannabis

1019
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Talk one on one and if no one else loves you,

1020
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one

1021
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,120
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1022
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,960
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