WEBVTT - Icon Deep Dive #1: Albert Einstein 

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, guys, welcome to this spinoff episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Zeitgeist. We're calling tentatively the Iconograph to show about icons.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jack O'Brien. I co founded the website

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<v Speaker 1>crack dot com, and for the past seven years I've

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<v Speaker 1>co hosted a daily show with the comedian Miles Gray

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<v Speaker 1>about the Zeitgeist. The News Ghost Spirit of the Times.

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<v Speaker 1>We cover what's happening in our shared consciousness through the

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<v Speaker 1>news and pop culture of today, and this spinoff version

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<v Speaker 1>will cover the zeitgeist through the people and characters who

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<v Speaker 1>don't make the news every day, but they exist in

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<v Speaker 1>our movies and on our bumper stickers and T shirts

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<v Speaker 1>and as reference points in our conversations. But yeah, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my criteria for whether someone deserves a TDZ icon

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<v Speaker 1>episode is whether you could dresses them for Halloween and

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<v Speaker 1>people would get it. One of the recurring questions I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask in these episodes is if this icon

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<v Speaker 1>existed today in our reality, how likely would they be

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the Epstein flight logs, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this episode we're talking about the stein Bert Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>We're starting with a big one, genius, visionary, silly billy

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<v Speaker 1>rogue sex maniac. Next week, I think we have Erkele

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<v Speaker 1>That should give you a sense of the scope of

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<v Speaker 1>our inquiry here. But yeah, don't be fooled by the

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<v Speaker 1>subject matter of our first episode. It's a very stupid show. Still.

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<v Speaker 1>The format is simple. Each episode a different icon, Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>a guest, and me talking geist through the lens of

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<v Speaker 1>that icon. We will start with the stuff that is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the iconic image we all have of Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>The picture of him sticking out his tongue, Where'd that

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<v Speaker 1>come from? Why was he doing that? He equals mc squared?

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<v Speaker 1>What that mean? The rumpled wild hair look, the myth

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<v Speaker 1>that he was a slow child, the quotes and misquotes

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<v Speaker 1>and made up quotes. And then we'll get into some

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting stuff from his life that didn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>into the myth that got rejected by the brand management

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<v Speaker 1>team that is all of us, because it didn't match

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<v Speaker 1>the image we wanted for Einstein. But we're hiring a

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<v Speaker 1>researcher to help with each one of these episodes. This

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<v Speaker 1>one was researched by Dave Ruse. Thank you, Dave, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back at the end to tell you some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff I missed from my notes in my No No

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<v Speaker 1>No notebook dump. But here I am talking to Miles

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael Swain about Albert Einstein and plenty of other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you enjoy. I don't know if you know what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing today, Victor, but we're talking about a little

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<v Speaker 1>guy by the name of Albert Einstein. Ever heard of them? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Walter math Owl's episode three. It just turns out. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really into that movie Episode four, Meg Ryan, episode five,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Robbin.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I think of Walter math Out, the image

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<v Speaker 2>that pops into my head for some reason is him

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<v Speaker 2>and Dennis the Menace with the chick lit Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. Well yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucks up his dentures and brilliant idea to replace them

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<v Speaker 2>with chick lit gum.

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<v Speaker 3>That's his proactive idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he sucks up his dentures. Mister Wilson import

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Oh yeah, mister Wilson has always taking important

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<v Speaker 1>meetings the killer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and then, uh, what's his face? Christopher Lloyd

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<v Speaker 2>plays like a crazy drift in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was born to play. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a flame goes up his butt or something

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<v Speaker 2>because he farts on a campfire.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something with him farting in fire anyway, Einstein? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we talking about CHRISTI?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't know that Einstein died by

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<v Speaker 1>farting on a campfire and the flame went off his

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<v Speaker 1>butt and blew them up.

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<v Speaker 3>The apple hit his head. This was what inspired.

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<v Speaker 1>Beer blows his ass off.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so funny. There's a you account called fart Share.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how the Einstein episodes over the miles, linking

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<v Speaker 1>up famous fart scenes. Dennis the Menace. All right here,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into it. Hello the Internet, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>this very special episode of Turnilley Zeitgeist. Oh, which we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what we're calling yet Iconograph. Maybe keep coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to Iconograph. Will figure it out and start of

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the zeitgeist through current events. We're looking at icons,

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<v Speaker 1>powerful pop culture hork froxes that are basically the stars

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<v Speaker 1>of our shared consciousness. I'm joined as always by my

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<v Speaker 1>co host, mister Miles Grind. Are we doing a rake?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because I don't know what you're about to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, so it's hard coming in cold. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole point here is I'm here to be dazzled by

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<v Speaker 2>Sexy Facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy Facts and Dennis the Menace Fart Conversations. Yes, Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>we're thrilled to be joined by the co host of

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<v Speaker 1>my very first podcast, the Crack podcast from the early

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<v Speaker 1>days of Cracked, back doing some very funny stuff at Cracked.

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<v Speaker 1>Very talented writer who back in back in those days

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<v Speaker 1>wrote one of my favorite science articles about like mind

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<v Speaker 1>blowing science stuff. So I wanted to have him on

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<v Speaker 1>here see if he could explain what any of this

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<v Speaker 1>ship means. He's the creator of the Small Beans podcast network.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Michael Swash.

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<v Speaker 4>Might I pitch Iconic Class? Do people say icon class class?

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<v Speaker 1>podcast called iconic Cast.

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<v Speaker 4>To an icon speak of which we're going to hit.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the very first sketch related things me and

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<v Speaker 4>my primary partner over on my Small Beans comedy in print,

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<v Speaker 4>Abe Everson, also a big director at Crack. One of

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<v Speaker 4>the first things we ever did was like Jesus me,

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<v Speaker 4>it's hitler thing, which caused Rob Shrub, successful Hollywood comedian

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Yeah, to tell us to give up and quit.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're to pursue comedy and I understand what he

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<v Speaker 4>was really saying. Well, no, you shouldn't say that too

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<v Speaker 4>a young creative, but I've always been interested ever since

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<v Speaker 4>that horrible burn in my soul, in like your abe

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<v Speaker 4>Lincoln's or the joke math around. Yeah, the things we

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<v Speaker 4>put the most energy into. Yeah, I'm so powerful. And

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<v Speaker 4>of course as you age, thanks to outlets like Cracked

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<v Speaker 4>and now just broader internet culture, you find out so

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<v Speaker 4>much of it as a package story as well, and

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<v Speaker 4>it makes you reflect on, like.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is my life?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like an echo of an echo of a condensed,

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<v Speaker 4>agreed upon retelling of a You know, we're not so

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<v Speaker 4>out of the realm of myths as we think we are.

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<v Speaker 3>We still basically live our lives by them.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized as I was because I did read like

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<v Speaker 1>a chunk of the Walter Isaacson Einstein biography or listened

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<v Speaker 1>to it because I didn't want to own an Einstein biography,

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<v Speaker 1>because the type of person who reads an Einstein biography

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<v Speaker 1>makes my hand just do the jack off hand motion

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<v Speaker 1>and like, oh, okay, oh you're reading Einstein's biography. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you did. A smart guy. You think you're a smart guy. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>But Einstein is the example that got me thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>icons and like their power and this like gravitational force

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<v Speaker 1>that they exert on like meaning and ideas and just

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<v Speaker 1>like the world inside our brains. But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting behind a car in traffic in LA and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a bumper sticker with an Einstein quote that

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<v Speaker 1>he definitely didn't say. I was just like, God, many

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<v Speaker 1>people really want like they just use him to be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who if he said that thing, like it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes true mag.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I feel like, don't people always

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<v Speaker 2>do the same, Like the definition of insanity is.

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<v Speaker 1>The definition where it's like that's the big thing Stein,

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<v Speaker 1>and You're like, the definition of insanity is doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing twice and expecting different results, which, as I've

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<v Speaker 1>said before, is actually a pretty good definition of the

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<v Speaker 1>scientific method.

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<v Speaker 4>And interestingly, I think Einstein, I would venture to guess

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<v Speaker 4>Einstein might say that it's actually not possible to do

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<v Speaker 4>the same thing twice.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's interesting about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is why you do multiple requirements. We do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>God doesn't play dice as another one that gets used

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. He was making a complex point about like

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<v Speaker 1>quantum theory, and like his critical quant.

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<v Speaker 4>Theory, particular interpretation of quantum theory the Copenhangen is.

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<v Speaker 1>But also he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Allowed to be wrong about other stuff or like he

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<v Speaker 4>also one time said, oh fuck, I sat on my ball,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I'm going to fucking marry my cousin. Was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that he said. That's at a certain point

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get into. But yeah, this dice thing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is used by people to be like, see, God has

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<v Speaker 1>a plan. Einstein said that God doesn't play dice, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, no, he was talking about quantum mechanics.

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<v Speaker 4>Sex dice with the different sex ex SI side wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>This only Einstein plays sex dice. This is my Einstein impression.

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<v Speaker 1>God plays no sex dice, only Einstein. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to start out talking about like the big things

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows about Einstein. I feel like one of them

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<v Speaker 1>is the tongue photo. I've said that like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the criteria for judging if someone's an icon is like

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<v Speaker 1>could you dress up as them for Halloween? And like

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<v Speaker 1>most people would be like, yeah, I know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>In Einstein's case, I think it would be a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of people being like you're Einstein or or Mark Twain.

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<v Speaker 1>I think another one is college dorm room posters, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the Einstein tongue photo, the one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a yeah, it's it's the Bob Marley photo

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<v Speaker 2>for someoneho's like a science major.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we'll get to Bob Marley eventually on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so that that's a real photo. It was

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<v Speaker 1>taken like on his seventy second birthday after a party,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's I think fair to assume that he was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit fucked up. He was coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the party afterwards, and he was just getting in a car.

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<v Speaker 1>A photographer named Arthur Sas swooped in, got the shot,

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<v Speaker 1>and Einstein fucking loved it. He was like, yo, could

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<v Speaker 1>I get like a thousand copies of that and just

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<v Speaker 1>immediately started sending it to his friends of his tongue

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<v Speaker 1>out photo. His tongue out photo. Yeah okay. That was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, okay, good good friend. I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 2>He got so excited that he wanted to share like

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<v Speaker 2>a boomer does, like AI slop on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>He was immediately spamming people with this photo. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is that's who I want to be. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's an that's an important part of his legacy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a silly billy. It's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a loose cannon. But he said, this gesture you will

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<v Speaker 1>like because it is aimed at all of humanity. The

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<v Speaker 1>outstretched tongue reflect my political views. So a little fucking

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<v Speaker 1>punk rhy dog.

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<v Speaker 4>He was almost funny for a second, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 4>let me explain the shit out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll explain.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, here come those thousand words right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like the look is important art, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the funny thing is that so the tongue in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways reflects I just stay in for humanity in

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<v Speaker 1>the political spectrum. I do think the look is important.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think to get a icon the level of Einstein,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to have a lot of different shit come together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think him looking like a rumpled genius with

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<v Speaker 1>wild hair, like if he if he was like a

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<v Speaker 1>fastidious man with like a comb over, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like who is just like very well put together. It

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<v Speaker 1>just like Woodruman or something. Yeah. Yeah, if you just

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<v Speaker 1>look like Harry Truman, that's a great example. Like nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knows what Harry Truman. Nobody thinks about Harry Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank very similarly.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason it took us a while to get around

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<v Speaker 4>to doing the big budget Oppenheimer is very similarly, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>rubbed elbows, same rooms. Oppenheimer arguably responsible for the killingest

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<v Speaker 4>thing anyone's ever done in the history of man. Certainly interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't really look or act super interesting, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>we were like Einstein, Einstein, Einstein, Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do an Oppenheimer we have, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>an Oppenheimer in here. Although I will say I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I remember like certain reviews and I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>them for this podcast, but certain reviews of the Oppenheimer

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<v Speaker 1>movie being like really good, loved it. It's weird when

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein shows up and you're like that, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>fictional character showing up in this movie that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, it's like a muppet showing up. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's he's so iconic that it's just like, wait, why

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<v Speaker 1>why is the guy from the picture with the tongue out?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is he in this historical drama.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm too much of a physics nerd because

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<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite forgotten shows is Manhattan, where one

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<v Speaker 4>of the Wet Bandits Daniel Stern plays a brilliant physicist,

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<v Speaker 4>which is amazing to me, just like not that he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't pull it off, but that's bizarre to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Manhattan has Einstein, you got Neils Bor, you got like

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<v Speaker 4>you'd expect those people to show up. I would be

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<v Speaker 4>surprised to find Stein didn't show up in the Oppenheimer movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just I think the effect

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<v Speaker 1>of it for some people who just know him from

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<v Speaker 1>being like wow, okay Einstein.

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<v Speaker 3>You could draw on and app him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's you know, yeah, my knowled to Einstein is truly

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<v Speaker 2>fucking well. What was the movie you just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>with Tim Robbins. Yeah that was not Comedy Central all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I watched that many times. Uh, the photo

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<v Speaker 2>equals MC squared everything else I have like the whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The distillation of Einstein is through culture that has really

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with him as a person. So like

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw him in Oppenheimer almost I was almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, this is this true? That was the real guy?

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<v Speaker 1>The guy was really he talked to Einstein. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was like storyline.

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<v Speaker 4>I got so not to put you on the spot

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<v Speaker 4>at but I want to ask files, can.

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<v Speaker 1>You say what he equals MC squared means? And an energy?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Energy equals I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Even mean technically, but like I'm just wondering the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that we all know.

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<v Speaker 3>It by road or do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, truly it's purely just

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<v Speaker 2>the letters. Yeah, I know he's famous for he equals

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<v Speaker 2>mass whatever the fuck squared. I'm also science is like

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<v Speaker 2>the subject I know the least about. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>truly limited to I could write it on a chalkboard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Appropriate, because I just show up when Jack tells me

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<v Speaker 4>to and it's always worked out so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I am yeah, because I so first of all, that

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<v Speaker 1>is one of them, because I want to start with

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<v Speaker 1>the things everybody knows, right, Like the picture I think

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<v Speaker 1>is up there equals MC squared is the thing. When

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<v Speaker 1>I asked my children before they left work for work today,

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<v Speaker 1>I sent them out to the mines before they left

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<v Speaker 1>for school today, I was like, do you know who

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein is? They knew what he looked like, and they

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<v Speaker 1>knew he equals MC squared, but they don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. I read a chunk of his biography

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<v Speaker 1>that was covered the portion where he comes up with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I kind of have vague sense, so

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<v Speaker 1>let me try, okay, and then you tell me if

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrong. It's that they were trying to like make

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<v Speaker 1>a set like there was absolute space and there was

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<v Speaker 1>absolute time, like everything up to that point was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well you always have like you can measure everything against

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<v Speaker 1>absolute time. And he figured out basically, the only absolute

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<v Speaker 1>that really works is the speed of light, and like

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<v Speaker 1>based on how fast light is moving, time actually is

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<v Speaker 1>variable and space is actually like mass is actually variable,

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<v Speaker 1>so like the only constant is the speed of light.

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<v Speaker 1>But even that's like not totally constant. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I got. That like, once you look

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<v Speaker 1>at things from the perspective of the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything else like can shift, including how fast time

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<v Speaker 1>is moving, so there's like no absolute time. How'd I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 4>Can I just shout out things as a big fan

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<v Speaker 4>of physics that make my brain explode? Like I know

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<v Speaker 4>what's juicy? I won't bore you. He intuited several things that, like,

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<v Speaker 4>to me, a guy read a lot just about what

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<v Speaker 4>physics means, but I can't learn math no matter how

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<v Speaker 4>hard I try, but read a lot of books of

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<v Speaker 4>like appreciation of physics and cosmology.

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<v Speaker 1>Equals mc squared.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a few things he intuited, and he's become more

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<v Speaker 4>like a Buddha figure to me because it's just amazing

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<v Speaker 4>to think, or like Mary Shelley, who's like basically invented

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<v Speaker 4>sci fi and horror when she thought of the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of Frankenstein when she was eighteen. So it's like one

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<v Speaker 4>of those moments where I'm like, I just can't believe

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<v Speaker 4>a human thought of that. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>is everything's relative, like you said, and like trippy examples

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<v Speaker 4>are even if you were moving ninety nine point ninety

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<v Speaker 4>nine nine percent the speed of light, if you shine

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<v Speaker 4>a flashlight out and measured that light, it would be

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<v Speaker 4>going relative to you the speed of light. I cannot

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<v Speaker 4>catch up to it. Ever the end, or at least,

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<v Speaker 4>we still don't understand anyway to breach that, or even

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<v Speaker 4>that it could breach. Everything else would unravel if it breached.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know so.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the other thing that he really intuited the

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<v Speaker 4>equals MC squared is is that energy equals which is

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<v Speaker 4>crazy to me. And this is the part I don't get.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would it be exactly equal to the speed of

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<v Speaker 4>light squared? That makes it seem like God is real.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't understand the math of randomness. But my

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<v Speaker 4>point is equals MC squared says energy converted by some

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<v Speaker 4>amount equals matter. So Einstein also intuited that, which is

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<v Speaker 4>what an a bomb proves, Right, this tiny piece of

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<v Speaker 4>matter actually has this much energy in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, we are all made of stardust, as the Great

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<v Speaker 4>Profit movie tells us, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite literal.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was the one who connected everything?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the same stuff that is light is your

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<v Speaker 4>physical body.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the same stuff. And to think that someone figured.

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<v Speaker 4>That out And then you're like, well, how so smart

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<v Speaker 4>guy and he's like, here's proof and I don't know how,

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<v Speaker 4>but all the other smart people who understand math when yes,

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<v Speaker 4>holy cow, he's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So reading exactly reading that, Like first half of the biography,

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<v Speaker 1>like the thing that blew me away is like he's

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<v Speaker 1>not the best at math. Nobody's like this guy's the

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<v Speaker 1>best in math. He's like good at math. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>the best at like experimental science. What he's the best

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<v Speaker 1>at is like having high thoughts and then like really

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<v Speaker 1>believing in this. Yeah, and he also just read everything

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<v Speaker 1>that was out there.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like the one coming in and going time

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<v Speaker 4>is light and you go, what are you talking about, bastard?

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<v Speaker 1>He Yeah, he was basically reading all the science and

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<v Speaker 1>then was able to like pull these different elements out

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<v Speaker 1>and construct his theory out of that. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a loose theory that like some people are just always high,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just how their brain chemistry works, and like

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<v Speaker 1>he is one of those people. Like the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>him being like a rumple genius who like doesn't have time,

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<v Speaker 1>like would show up with like one shoe off and

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<v Speaker 1>like a his hand is not wrong, Like he was

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. He never had like he would have He

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<v Speaker 1>would go on a trip and then have to like

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<v Speaker 1>mail home and be like, could you send my suitcase

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<v Speaker 1>with this stuff in it? So he's just a space person.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a space person like constantly. He would read

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<v Speaker 1>physics constantly and also like play the violin and like

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<v Speaker 1>he just like really liked to vibe the music and

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<v Speaker 1>think high thoughts. Like essentially one of.

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<v Speaker 4>The only fun facts I know about him is that

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<v Speaker 4>they did dissect his brain, because why wouldn't you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and he had a super thick corpus colossum, which is

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<v Speaker 4>the two between the two hemispheres. So it's actually like

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<v Speaker 4>he was the Michael Phelps by which I mean genetically

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<v Speaker 4>predisposed to just be done right of imaginatively thinking about math.

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<v Speaker 1>For people who don't know Michael Phelps is like if

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<v Speaker 1>you saw him in person, you would be like, who

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<v Speaker 1>is this human caricature? His arms and upper body is

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<v Speaker 1>like massive, and then his legs are like tiny. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, and you I mean, and they've.

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<v Speaker 4>Done studies showing his body like wicks away lactic acid.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, that's what he called an outlier, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Shah, yeah, yeah right, yeah, he shouldn't have revealed himself.

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<v Speaker 1>There going to dissect him at the Pentagon at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems to have had some physical brain structure advantages.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I want to be cremated immediately because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want people to worship at my bones and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to like do weird shit to

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<v Speaker 1>my brain. And they were like, sorry, asshole. And his

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<v Speaker 1>brain is in Philadelphia, Like there are pieces of his

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<v Speaker 1>brain at the Morbid Museum in Philadelphia. But yeah, to

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<v Speaker 1>your point. Also, like I think one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that was a disconnect for me coming in versus now,

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<v Speaker 1>like having done some research about him, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>image I have is old guy sticking his tongue out.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote like the four scientific papers that invented modern

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<v Speaker 1>physics in a single year when he was I think

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six years old. Like he was young, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was a patent clerk, which I also want to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically did the thing that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>do when they come out of college and are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do a job that I can do

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<v Speaker 1>while high. The reason he had that patent clerk job

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<v Speaker 1>was because he couldn't get a job out of school

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<v Speaker 1>because he was like a lazy student who didn't show

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<v Speaker 1>up to class. The reason I didn't show up to

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<v Speaker 1>classes because I was hung over. The reason he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>show up to classes because like he thought his teachers

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<v Speaker 1>were like teaching the wrong thing and was just like

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<v Speaker 1>devouring science of his own interest, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of you know, having this high job

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<v Speaker 1>instead of like working in a lab under a major

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<v Speaker 1>scientist who would like tell him what direction to go in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think allowed him to just like pull all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and like follow his brain to this conclusion that

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<v Speaker 1>was fucking mind blowing. H let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 4>You just unlocked my memory of Oh yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>other way people use him double click him as an

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<v Speaker 4>icon in life that I've encountered. Now that I'm older,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't as much anymore because it's more.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>But I used to frequently encounter the example, really slacking

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<v Speaker 4>off kid, see average or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Einstein to see average. So so that's my next one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my next thing that I knew. So I knew

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<v Speaker 1>the picture, I knew the image, I knew equals MC squared,

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew that Einstein was a slow childs right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's oh he was. That was the I remember learning

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<v Speaker 1>that in like eighth grade because I sucked in math,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was.

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<v Speaker 3>The way they would inspire you.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the room I was in like when I

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<v Speaker 1>learned that, because I was like, oh, hell yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance for there have hope. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like when I learned like Tiger Woods is

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<v Speaker 2>black and Asian, and I went to a golf course

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, then here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>And no kids sport I'm good at. But yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I think most people say is that

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<v Speaker 1>he was a late talker. Teachers dismissed him as slow.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the only contemporary accounts we have of him

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<v Speaker 1>as a baby was from his grandparents, who talked about

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<v Speaker 1>him as a well behaved child full of funny ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when he was two and a half years old,

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<v Speaker 1>he was introduced to his little sister and he said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but where are the wheels, which was like, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit about like he thought he thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a toy or something. They were like,

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and so he's like already doing misguided bits. Yeah, two

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:30.679
<v Speaker 1>and a.

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<v Speaker 3>Half which very like old comedy.

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Early.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, they said he was a late talker, but

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.439
<v Speaker 1>there's a contemporary account of him like making a joke,

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 1>like an interesting a comic joke at two and a.

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Half years That's what I'm saying, Like, how do you

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.719
<v Speaker 2>scare like if he because I you know, there are

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>people that that's like a sign of potential, like you know,

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:54.640
<v Speaker 2>you have some kind of genius or something of late talker, right, yeah.

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and all that kind of thing. There is some

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>recollections from his parents that they were concerned. So one

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of the anecdotes from him as a child is that

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>he would say the sentence that he was about to

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>say quietly to himself before he would say it out loud,

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>So he was like kind of weird. But he only

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>spoken full sentences, which is like this sign of like

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the people I've met who like only speak in full

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 1>sentences are usually like I'm like, oh, you're like on

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a different level of just like yeah, just like really smart.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.360
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that also gave us the good Fella's character

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy two times, who always says got to get the papers.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, that is based on Einstein. But yeah, there's

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>just like all these stories where it's like I don't

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>really buy that. Like he was like got the best

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>grades in his class, like in elementary school through high school,

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>then he went to college and basically was like I'm

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>doing my own thing on this, And that seems like

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>where this whole idea comes from other than and I

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>think this is another important part of like why he's

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>such a massive icon is he was one of the

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>people who said that like people thought he was dumb.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>He was like doing the Drake started from the bottom.

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Now we're here a thing like which when you think

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>about I keep my brain when I'm thinking about like

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the biggest icons goes to Einstein and Michael Jordan, and

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like if you remember, like Michael Jordan constantly talks about

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>how he got cut from his high school basketball team.

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that's not really true, he got he just like

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't make varsity when he was like a sophomore or something.

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think there's an element of like self mythologizing,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>like I think he was.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 3>You tend to do that it works, Like.

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think it's that if you're this

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>level of icon, you have to have all of it.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>You have to have like the amazing contributions. You have

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to have like a look or like something that like

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>people can like hang their brain on. And then I

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>think you also have to have a somewhat sense of

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>like building your own methoce and like how that Yeah,

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like telling your story.

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Because I think a lot of stories I learned from

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 4>my time I cracked about people where flies in the

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 4>face of what the story is, like gond to your mother, Teresa, Right,

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 4>it's like they're also master savvy, master marketers of their

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 4>own brand, and you're like, well.

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Should they be right?

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 4>Is that everything was clicking. We're building an empire of

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 4>people love here.

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing miracles over here, man. Yeah. And then there's

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>also just like stuff that like what once an image

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>is so powerful, like just everything else gets like written

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>out of it. Essentially. Other question I have, and this

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>is just like a mystery that I'm curious to get

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>your theories on, is I think that movies are kind

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of the ultimate icon factories, or like they they're the

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>things that create meaning. They they create the official version

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in people's share consciousness of like how a historical event

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:07.199
<v Speaker 1>went down, who a historical figure was. And it's weird

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to me that he hasn't had a major movie made

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>about him. There's the movie IQ, which is another thing

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that's like in my brain of Einstein, it's like, oh,

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>yeah he was. He co starred with Meg Ryan in

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that movie, which posits the theory that Einstein's the ultimate

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>wingman is essentially like, is she the Niece's his niece? Yeah,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what I thought. I remember she's like uncle Albert,

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, you know, what fucked me up about

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that movieh So I've talked before about this theory that

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>William Goldman has that there are some actors that we

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>can't accept any time except the present. His example was

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Michael Douglas, Like Michael Douglass needs to be in the

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>eighties and like horny, And then they tried to put

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>him in a movie William Goldman wrote called Ghosts in

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the Darkness and it didn't do well, even though it

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>tested really well. And his theory was, like, people just

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>can't have him be like a lion hunter from the past.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>So I Q I had just assumed that it took

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>place in the present and that like Einstein, was like

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>this mystical figure, because like, I can't put Meg Ryan

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>in any other era like she needs she needs to

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>be in the nineties, like she she needs to be

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in the present tense. I can't like make sense of her.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>And even like watching the first bit of it, I

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, she doesn't really it doesn't really work as

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>well for some reason.

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 3>That was a classic past though.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeahthing slick yeah, yeah, get in here, slick in his hair. Yeah.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess Meg Ryan has what they call now, they

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>call that iPhone face.

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the face of someone who's seen it, but

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>she has the face of somebody who's, uh, I don't know,

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>logged onto and here or something. I guess my my question,

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's not as weird. What Like the more I

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>thought about it, the more like there are scenes from

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>his life that make an incredible like it's like very cinematic.

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>First of all, the theory of relativity if you have

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the right filmmaker could like make that kind of make

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>sense and like mind blowing. He was living by a

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>train track with a famous clock next to it as

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>he realized that like time is like and then used

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that to like make sense of all the things. So

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's the thing from the movie where you're

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like pooling things from around you and then like illustrating

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the shit. Like he literally had the like Agent Kuian

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>at the end of Usual Suspects thing where he was

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>like shaking time and then like he was also like

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>at the patent office like working on like synchronizing clocks

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>because that was like a big thing that needed to happen.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>There's also a story brand the editor points out of

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>him watching a window fall and like that got him

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>interested in gravity. That one's probably apocryphal because he wasn't

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a psychopath. He wasn't like, oh, I just watched the

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>guy fall off a roof, and now I'm curious about

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't think that one actually happened. But like he

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>has all these things that are like cinematic ingredients. He

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>is a good movie character, Like he is this a

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>fuddle mess who like plays instruments and is like charming.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, just because we haven't tended to

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>picture a guy fucking doesn't mean he wasn't fucking. He

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't make a character in the movie. Like, I think

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you're right that he's kind of like Yoda in our

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>mind now, But I mean.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, he's grandpapcorn.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he's Grandpa. I think he's like wise. But yeah,

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>as Superducer Victor points out, Yoda fucks Like in my

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>mind Yoda is.

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 4>We're very open to a flashback where the grandpapcoor character

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 4>is young and sexy now and we see them.

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Fuck we do that, right any many characters? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>But my theory on why there hasn't been the big

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Einstein movie is like, did you guys see Air, the

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>movie about the invention of the first that band playing? Right?

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Different thing but basically the way they treat Jordan is

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>as if he is. They just don't show his face.

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like the Old Testament. Yeah, it's like the

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Old Testament like treats God, where like if you look

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>at his face that it will like melt or something created.

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 3>George Stein.

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Like, I feel like if you made a movie about Einstein,

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a certain level of being so iconic

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that if you make the movie, it just feels like cheapened.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>And then like to your point, like the way he's

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>been used is like as this like all knowing wizard

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.479
<v Speaker 1>of everything smart. He's like Yoda mixed with Ironman. And

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>if you made a movie where he's not like literally

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.719
<v Speaker 1>conjuring the nuclear particles of physics with his hands, like

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to like match what's in people's mind. Yeah.

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's also because so many people know just

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 2>enough about the dumb shit to give them the completely

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>wrong idea about me. Is that a movie would completely

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>go against all of that. Like, for example, I have

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>like the most superficial idea of Einstein. If he showed

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 2>me a trailer and he was like this complex person,

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, bro, I don't want to see this. Yeah,

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>like this guy is just the shorthand for me for

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 2>genius stuff. So I guess in that sense, but I

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>guess maybe that's why I need to know that he

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>was horny. And then I'm like, okay, well now maybe

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.719
<v Speaker 2>there's something. There's another reason.

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Also interesting that our relationship, since we're talking zeitgeisten icons

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 4>to the because it feels to me like he's specifically

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.719
<v Speaker 4>smart or intelligent, and like D and D players will

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean when I say someone else owns

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 4>like wisdom or like Abe Lincoln has honesty or whatever,

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 4>but like he owns smart and right, even though as

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.959
<v Speaker 4>we're describing, it's more that he was high galaxy brains,

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 4>but he owns my whole life. He's owned like smart

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 4>and right because he's smart. And what's interesting is actually,

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 4>since I was a kid, we've changed our overall relationship

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 4>with smart. We know disdain smart people and things for

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 4>many of us don't think smart is bullshit and fake, right, right, guys, Yeah, yeah,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 4>interesting when your brand is thousands of years long, as

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 4>his will surely be. I always think of going back

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 4>to Beethoven and telling him, you know, like you don't

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 4>have to be a what mass food is, and then

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 4>that this fried chicken place is beaming his jingle he

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 4>wrote into space to sell fried chicken. Like anything like

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 4>that is so trippy to me.

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the misquotes are a good example,

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a good way of illustrating what you're talking about, because yeah,

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>like I've heard him misquoted by science people, religious people,

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>people who hate making the same mistakes twice. I guess,

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>like basketball fans, people who hate education, smart people, atheist democrats, Republicans,

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think there's anyone else like that. I

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's nobody else who is just like it

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>used as an authority on like fucking everything, like across

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the board. Everyone's just like, yeah, but that's Einstein, And

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>if he said that, then we're right on this one.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Mark another one up for the people who hate making

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the same mistake twice.

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 4>But I think there's people who like these are the

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 4>kinds of people that mostly get when the quote is misattributed.

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 3>It's usually in the form of an image.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Macro right, is what we're thinking about, like the Facebook's

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 4>curly cue text and a black and white image of

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 4>the person. And I feel like I'm I see a

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 4>lot of Churchill's still gets play in this.

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Churchilli gets some play.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah for sure, where it's like it must be right

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 4>because they said it, I'm trying to link into Lincoln.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Is like, well, if he said it Mark Twain also,

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I said yeah, yeah, Twain gets that. See. And Einstein

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>was in many ways cosplaying as Mark Twain, so he

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>knew he was intentionally making himself iconic.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Car but only on the liberal side. It's like if

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 4>George Carlin said it, you're a fucking square if you

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 4>don't vibe with that magic.

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And the Republicans just take Carling quotes and be like Einstein,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Bill said that offhandedly to me or something. You never

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>see a man taking a ship running at full speed Einstein, Einstein,

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I just some better quotes than the ones that are

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>out there. Of God doesn't play dice. And the definition

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of stupidity is making the same mistake twice. When he

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>was first struck by scientific wonder, so this is him

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>seeing a needle respond to the invisible magnetic force in

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a compass, and it occurred to him that something deeply

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>hidden had to be behind things. That's something that occurred

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>when he was four five.

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Surely figured that one out, but he doesn't really exist

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 4>stand in for he is going to the list for

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 4>can't be wrong.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, luck.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And then like as he was taking the patent clerk job,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>he had like something dismissive to say. Somebody was like,

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>this job's really boring, you don't want it, and he

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, some people think everything's boring. I'm never bored

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.439
<v Speaker 1>and like it just like his fascination with everything, It's

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>not as pithy, but it like cuts to what I

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>think is the takeaway from him is that he was

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>just like constantly engaged, constantly like fascinated with everything around him,

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>constantly like reading, learning. So Walter Isaacson like has this

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like Genius trilogy or whatever where he's like written about

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Steve Jobs and Albert Einstein, and I think he has

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>like a very American author like individualism point of view.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But even like in his biography, like Einstein's constantly like

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>making groups of friends around him who are like the

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>people who are like minded and are curious about the

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>same stuff, and so like he is like building this

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>world of community, which I think gets written out of

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like how we think about him. Walter

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Isacson keeps being like he's this lone wolf, but like

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>constantly when he's like coming to these conclusions, he's just

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>like working with his smartest, craziest friends and like talking

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>with them and like bouncing ideas off of them, and

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 1>like talking into the early hours of the night and shit.

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, so the Newton quote, if I've seen farts

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 4>because I stood on the shoulders of giants, I feel

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 4>like it's going to come on. That's another thing, is

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 4>like you can't just be good at marketing. If you're

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 4>an icon, you definitely have to be comfortable with absorbing

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 4>the credit of whole teams of people into your nstorical legacy,

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 4>because no one actually does this stuff without bouncing it

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 4>off their friends and stuff. But sorry, I just got

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 4>to tell this one because maybe you can say whether

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 4>it's true or false. But there's a phrase, if you're bored,

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 4>then you're boring, you unlocked. Like a core childhood memory

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 4>of the anecdote my dad would tell us about Einstein

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 4>was that he thought of the theory of cosmological constant

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 4>while looking at the clock on the wall in school,

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 4>wishing that it would go faster so the day would

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.240
<v Speaker 4>end being bored, and then slowly musing on the idea

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 4>that it's actually later than it looks like, because it

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 4>takes some amount of time for the photons to reach

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 4>your eye turn into a brain signal, and for me

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 4>to know what time it is. And then he extrapolated

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 4>that out to the general theory of relativity, probably totally

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 4>like copping down the cherry tree just to store whole shit. No,

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 4>he's so illustrational to me, just the illustration that that

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 4>story gives of, Like the universe is it's a miracle,

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 4>there's even anything versus nothing. There's no real reason to

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 4>be bored per se.

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, he has said many things that was like, basically

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I was just constantly like I had the same questions

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>as everyone else. I just stuck with them longer and

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the questions that he ended up

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>solving with his like Great series were things that first

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>occurred to him when he was like twelve, Like he

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>had this vision of himself riding a beam of light.

0:39:58.600 --> 0:39:59.959
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what would the rest of the world

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>looked like to me as I'm riding a beam of light?

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And he answered that a decade later after like getting

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>his like while getting his doctorate, by the way. His

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>PhD had nothing to do with his like big discoveries.

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It was just like a thing. He was like, Fuck,

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:16.919
<v Speaker 1>I need to get a PhD so people will start

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.439
<v Speaker 1>calling me doctor. It'll be good for the brand essentially. Uh.

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And so he got a PhD. His doctoral thesis was

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>on viscosity and it ended up being something that like

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:31.240
<v Speaker 1>people used to this day, like engineers have used throughout

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the twentieth century. And it was just like kind of

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a thing. He tossed off, throw away PhD. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 4>I love that the whole slime industry is built on

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 4>this paper.

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think they said dairy. It's like

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of doors.

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 4>You know who gets it, Ben Franklin and Ben Franklin,

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Edison where you go and he invented this and that

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 4>and that and this and that and this and this

0:40:58.600 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 4>and that, And you're.

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, are you sure?

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and we're back. So I do want to get to

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the question that we want to ask of all of

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>our icons. In a hypothetical universe where this person was

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:30.279
<v Speaker 1>existing in the modern news cycle, would he have been

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>on the Epstein flight logs. Would would he have express.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 4>Taking credit for many who will remain faceless and absorbing

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 4>their story into his own.

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I will say, like a lot of the

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>things people you know that if you dig a little

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>bit deeper, people are like Einstein was kind of a freak.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>He married his cousin.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Did you see that tongue out?

0:41:55.239 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>That's not a political established sending a signal? Right there.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 3>We know he wasn't a groomer.

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>We know that. So he married the only woman in

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>his college physics program. They had two children, and then

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>he divorced her and married his cousin.

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Was that after he became like a rock star.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.919
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was like, as he was becoming a rock star,

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he married his cousin.

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 4>The archis of course classic that you get rich and

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 4>famous and you trade up your spouse.

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 3>But I love it, like just waiting for the clout

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 3>to marry that hotcomer.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Also she should have known. She's like, I was the

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 2>only woman in the class, and yeah, find you, let's go.

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'll keep my seat warm.

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a weird I looked up how common is

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it to marry your cousin? And you're googling that book? No,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>google a list. I google that every day just to

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>see what the latest numbers are. To be fair, I've

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>met your cousin. He's really yeah, he's the best. Uh.

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Slightly over ten percent of all marriages worldwide are estimated

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to be between second cousins or closer or closer damn

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>second or closer? Was his second or second his was first?

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:17.760
<v Speaker 1>In like multiple places.

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 3>It's like.

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a It was a real tangled web. The

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>overall rate appears to be declining, says Wikipedia on the

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia page cousin marriage.

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 4>The guy had compiled that day, which is.

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, But I also think maybe not that uncommon at

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the time. I guess, because you know, it's ten percent

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>now and it's declining.

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to factor in people who get married without

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 4>realizing that they're distant cousins. But I guess that wouldn't

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 4>make it into this data set because now, no, right,

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 4>so these are the people who are like, yes, sir.

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, goddamn right, I did Oh gross, second cousins. No,

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>my first cousins.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Provable cousin marriages.

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Wait, but did they have kids? They didn't have kids? Right,

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have kids. She already had daughters but there

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>is like some question as to whether he as he

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>was about to marry his cousin, started wondering if he

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>should marry his cousin's daughter. But like, there's there's a

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>smart have I mentioned that, very incredibly smart. He had

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>affairs constantly, So this is this is one of those

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>things where you're like, oh, you don't say uh. He

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>had this theory on monogamy that it wasn't a natural

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>state of man or a woman, and didn't feel particularly

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 1>guilty about sleeping around. Also didn't seem to mind when

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like his wife had a relationship with somebody else. Was

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of just a freak like that, you know. So

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>after general relativity was proven in nineteen nineteen, Einstein became

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 1>an international celebrity. Women through themselves at him. One scientist

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>friend said that I Einstein attracted women like a magnet

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>attracts filings.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Or like filings attracted.

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Elegant women would show up to show up at Einstein's

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>house at night, whisk him away, and return him in

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the morning. Einstein didn't complain. So my theory is, and

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>now I'm not going to say this with full confidence,

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Einstein would be on the flight logs

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>for the same reason that like Mick Jagger wasn't you know,

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like they didn't necessarily need to be constantly having He

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't need help, You didn't need the help. Yeah, it's more.

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 4>Like a Ben Franklin, where by all accounts you're like, yeah,

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 4>he fucked around and everyone knew he fucked around, and

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 4>he was like, I'm rich and famous, I'm going to

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:49.720
<v Speaker 4>fuck around. If you can't get with that Franklin baby,

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 4>something a little better than being on the island. I

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 4>don't think he'd be on the locks.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's also I think also based on

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>how Epstein was around scientist, he'd probably be like, Dude,

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I can't be around this fucking guy.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>He keeps telling me about fucking science. Yeah, any other

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>things that you guys know about him before I get

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to like some of the stuff that gets written out

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>of his story that I don't think has like made

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>it into his iconography that I think is pretty cool

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and should be in the movie if we ever get it.

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>No interrupting is my natural state.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Ready to go?

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I fucking rang the rag dry up top when

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I say yeah, all right, First of all, just a

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>weird like nature nurture thing. He was born in Ulm, Germany,

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and in a very clever bit of German wordplay, Ulm's

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>motto is omentuska, which it just means Olm people are mathematicians,

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>so which you would be like, that's crazy, like is

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>there something in the water. But he moved out of

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>there pretty quickly, so his dad was like a mathematician.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And so I don't know, on the on the shoulders

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of matimati kai maybe like the other thing, just the

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>high job I think is incredibly important, like the fact

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that he was able to just work and like put

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>all this shit together, like as he was like applying

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to all these academic positions where if he had gotten those,

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>they would have had him working on whatever their priorities were.

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>So I think just like this young genius who you know,

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>was constantly smoking and just not able to keep track

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>of anything, would make a pretty good movie. And then

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the other thing is that he was a democratic socialist

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.399
<v Speaker 1>his whole life, which I think just gets written out

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of it because you know, we don't like those in

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream and so like that's not a thing that

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 1>people really think about. But he was first of all

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>faced a bunch of anti Semitism. And that's like continued

0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>where people refer to like relativism as like a Jewish

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>perspective and like a hallmark of like the Semitic wave.

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 3>He squared, Yeah, what.

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>The I hear that?

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 2>The craziest shit to be, Like, I don't know, man, energy,

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Really you.

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Might say it like he might have had to get

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that high job because of anti Semitism. So I'm just saying, guys,

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 1>don't knock it. No, I'm not saying that. But after

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>his experience as a Jew and fascist Germany, he refused

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to stay silent when he saw injustices perpetrated In the

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>United States, the treatment of black Americans was particularly appalling

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>to Einstein. In nineteen thirty one, he published editorials criticizing

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the notorious Scottsboro Boys trial. In forty six, he told

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the graduating class of Lincoln University, which is the oldest

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>historically black college in the US, the separation of colored

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>people from white people in the United States is not

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a disease of colored people. It's a disease of white people.

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't tend to be quiet about it. Did he

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>actually say that? Though? That is from a speech after

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>he was famous, so Mark Twain, Yeah, that's right. And

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>then Princeton was de facto segregated as a town, and

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty seven, Marion Anderson played a concert in

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Princeton was denied a room at the local inn, and

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>he invited her to stay at his home and they

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>became close friends. And then when W. E. B. Du

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Boys was put on trial as a foreign agent during

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the Red Scare of the fifties, he volunteered to testify

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>as a character witness. And when the judge was like,

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>fucking Einstein's going to testify, he dismissed the case. Oh

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing.

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 4>Oh shit, fucking was already working for you, because that

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 4>he knew. Because again, like one of the one I

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 4>always think about is Bobby Fisher, who, if people don't know,

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 4>was was the best chess player ever. And think of that,

0:49:57.719 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 4>like if that's all you are, that's your that's your

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 4>eye kinic thing. And there's this if you see him

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 4>in documentaries, he's so narcissistic and so into himself, his

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:12.479
<v Speaker 4>own myth, and it's it's like, let's play badminton, mother,

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 4>Like all you do is such a niche thing. You

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 4>gotta calm him down, or that's why everyone needs humility, right,

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 4>that's why there's no such thing as a trillionaire that

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 4>deserves to be because life is short and there's no

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 4>way you can master everything and accomplish everything. People who

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.359
<v Speaker 4>say they did are lying. So it's just like very

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 4>funny to me that a judge would be like Einstein objected.

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 3>I can't say you're wrong, Einstein.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's just am I gonna say, it's so funny

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 5>that they got Lostein?

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But my is so.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.239
<v Speaker 2>That the myth is so large that in illegal proceeding,

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 2>the judge is like, dude, exactly, the fact that you're

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:02.720
<v Speaker 2>even gonna pull up with Albert Einstein? That's yeah, man, maybe, yeah, fine,

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not a communist.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you even see the car accident? Einstein?

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 3>But accidents involved physics. That's true. That's fair, sir. I'm sorry, sir, sorry.

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you calling me a liar? No? God, Jesus Christ, dude,

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 1>no never, never, never, You're right?

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 3>Should I called Jesus Christ?

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 1>You're a little girl. I actually have his number, just

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:27.879
<v Speaker 1>a complete idiot's idea of by.

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:29.879
<v Speaker 3>Know each other.

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>He probably knows no him, he call Jesus on me

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>as for how amara. So that's you know, how he

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 1>felt about America, and like as for how America felt

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:42.399
<v Speaker 1>about him. So he and Elsa, his cousin wife, left

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Germany in nineteen thirty two came to America. Hitler was

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>named chancellor in nineteen thirty three, so he got out

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just in time. There was opposition against welcoming Einstein as

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 1>an American citizen. The American Legion and a group called

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the Women Patriot Corporation lodge complaints with the State Department,

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>accusing Einstein of being a Communist. Not even Stalin himself

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>was affiliated with so many communist groups, they said, and

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 1>American religious leaders denounced his theories as atheistic and immoral.

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>And then the FBI, who, as we know, always on

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the right side of things, the FBI immediately started keeping

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a file on Einstein and his subversive activities. When he

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>died in nineteen fifty five, his FBI file was one thousand,

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>four hundred and twenty seven pages long, and just what

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>just a list of all these like women he was

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>banging with something probably probably a lot of compromant.

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I think I figured out that gravity is, you know,

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 4>emergent from the actual curvature space time. You can think

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 4>of it as almost like a blanket with weighted balls

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 4>on it. I'm watching you, Einstein.

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 5>Sound communists about to knock that shit off signed guys

0:52:59.040 --> 0:52:59.720
<v Speaker 5>to this guy.

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Watch knock that shit off, but which they investigated claims,

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>including that he was a Russian spy when he lived

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in Berlin, that he was organizing a communist takeover of Hollywood.

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:14.440
<v Speaker 1>They were so worried about that one. He was working

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:18.359
<v Speaker 1>on a death ray, like truly like six year old shit.

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:21.439
<v Speaker 1>But I do think like the FBI really like, as

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.760
<v Speaker 1>we're working through different icons, like having a long FBI

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>rap sheet is like kind of that that is a

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>helpful right ingredient. He was Also he was a pacifist.

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:34.439
<v Speaker 1>He was really like, you know, I think the movie

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Oppenheimer does cover this part, so I'm not going to

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 1>go too far into it. But he wrote a letter

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 1>to a FDR being like, we think the Germans might

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 1>be looking into using you know, this approach to an

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.760
<v Speaker 1>atomic weapon. So like they used that letter to justify

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan Project and he felt really, uh, you know,

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>fucked up about that for the rest of his life

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and called it the biggest mistake of his life and

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>then like was really heavily involved and like anti nuclear

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>proliferation throughout the course of his life. And then I

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 1>will just say the image we associate him with is

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>old Einstein. All the great theories came out from twenty

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>six to like mid thirties, essentially, like I think a

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 1>thing that you see with people who gained that much

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:22.919
<v Speaker 1>fame and attention, they're given power to, like, as we've seen,

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:26.240
<v Speaker 1>like be smart about everything, and like for the last

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>part of his scientific career he was like kind of

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>wrong about a lot of stuff. Like his early theories

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 1>were incredible, but he was like kind of wrong about

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>quantum stuff. But like it was that was stuff that

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like kind of came later. So I just like when.

0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Seby lose him, you have your career and then you

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 4>slowly fall out of and other people have to pick

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 4>a the torch.

0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:49.320
<v Speaker 3>He's just like anyone else in Marrigan.

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like ja rule. As you pointed out early on, Michael,

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like the thing that drove his theory was like kind

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:58.799
<v Speaker 1>of pooling all these things and being like a unified

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 1>theory of the universe. And then along comes quantum mechanics

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:07.279
<v Speaker 1>and is like, actually this like behaves completely differently, and

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I don't know in my experience.

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Well that you don't know, And of course is like,

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:19.800
<v Speaker 4>well the professor from Futurama as a big one point,

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 4>but it is true, is like, it's highly likely that

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 4>we're not shaped right to fully comprehend everything about the

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.480
<v Speaker 4>universe because we wouldn't need to be to survive within

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:34.320
<v Speaker 4>its womb. Uh So it might literally be like certain things.

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 4>It might be true that you can imagine things that

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:39.719
<v Speaker 4>can't exist. You can imagine time travel but it's not possible.

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Or you could imagine knowing everything, but that's not really

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 4>a valid question.

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 1>In a way that we'll never even be able to comprehend.

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Why what do you mean?

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:50.080
<v Speaker 4>It's not a bad question, it doesn't matter. It's all

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 4>above your pay grade. Like I think the professor says

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 4>something like science never ends. Yeah, whether that's good or bad,

0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 4>we're still very very far from well that's that what we're.

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, yeah, closed. I will say he died.

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>He died from a birthday order on April eighteenth, nineteen

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>fifty five, at seventy six. And I'm just saying, if

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>he was so smart about science, heart science.

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 2>That's how you know he wouldn't be in the Epstein

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 2>files because he would have lived a lot longer. Probably true,

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 2>way too.

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Died way too young. Einstein was stabbed in the back

0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to death. It was all a suicide that pierced with

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a dagger. On the levels of relative iconography, I'll say

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.839
<v Speaker 1>I think he's like near the top of the list. Tear, Yeah, yeah,

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the I think he's really like I'll

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>put it this way, Michael Jordan is the most iconic

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>person of I think my lifetime as far as the

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:57.279
<v Speaker 1>like us shared consciousness goes. And there's an actor named

0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Michael B. Jordan. He just added an initial and that

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 1>was another.

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 3>We were like, we'll take yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Albert Brooks had to change his whole lass name. His

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:10.720
<v Speaker 1>name was Albert Einstein. He changed it to Brooks because

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that's how powerful Albert Einstein is. Is that like you

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even couldn't be like Albert D. Einstein. People be like,

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck up? Yeah, piece of shit? Thank you

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>guys for joining us. Oh yes, Michael sway, yeah, is

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 1>there where can people find you? Follow you? All that

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>good stuff?

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0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:53.000
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<v Speaker 3>Whoever started it should be run out of town on

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, ashole all right, that was fun. That was fun,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, Here is the stuff some things I missed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is no, no, no, no, notebook don't that was perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>We should just clip that and use that over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again, maybe add some sound effects. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>sound drops just yet. We're remarkably ill prepared for this

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<v Speaker 1>new version of this show. We don't even have a

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<v Speaker 1>dang title. All right, here's some stuff I found interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't remember to bring up while talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Michael and Miles. The definition of insanity line. We talked

1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 1>about that a lot, But the origin I think history

1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>dot Com I found the origin. So the line the

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<v Speaker 1>definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 1>over again and expecting different results has also been wrongly

1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:37.880
<v Speaker 1>attributed to Benjamin Franklin. So I think we talked about

1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>how there is just like a group of smart guy

1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 1>icons that we're just like, yeah, say he said it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the ultimate quotable Einstein, an authoritative compilation of his

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 1>most memorable utterances, identified the quote as a misattribution and

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:57.200
<v Speaker 1>mentioned its use in the nineteen eighty three novel Sudden

1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Death by Rita may Brown. This is a sort of

1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Roman novel about a professional tennis player, and for some

1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:07.320
<v Speaker 1>reason they wanted to say Einstein said that thing. Also

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<v Speaker 1>worth noting a paperback from the eighties. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a spy novel gave us the historic myth

1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:19.040
<v Speaker 1>that ick bienign Berliner means I'm a donut. Those paperbacks

1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:22.840
<v Speaker 1>were just making shit up in the eighties and we

1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:27.160
<v Speaker 1>were gobbling it down. Just talking about Einstein's servant looks

1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the sloppy genius vibe. Something I've noticed. My son plays

1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of chess, and like a lot of the

1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:37.320
<v Speaker 1>big chess players have this like really messy chess hair,

1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:41.160
<v Speaker 1>not chess hair, messy hair that is called chess hair.

1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:44.480
<v Speaker 1>That I have to think if Einstein just had like

1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a neatly cropped fade or like a butt cut, that

1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what they'd be rocking Einstein, messy bitch. I don't

1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:56.360
<v Speaker 1>have all the quotes, but all these scientists is one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you get from the biography about him is like

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<v Speaker 1>all these scientists were just constantly writing letters back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth and just ethering each other all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was known to do that in a very friendly way.

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<v Speaker 1>One o the things so instead of the he was

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<v Speaker 1>a slow witted child anecdote that doesn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>particularly true. One cool thing that I think we could

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<v Speaker 1>take from his early life is that he was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge sci fi reader. He devoured popular science writing of

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineteenth century, so you know, nerd alert, but

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<v Speaker 1>also just so much science fiction, which I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a cool thing to tell kids who

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<v Speaker 1>want to think I'm a little like Einstein in many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the image of him writing a Beam of Light.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that he was at least partially inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>science fiction writing because they knew that light had a

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<v Speaker 1>speed and wrote some interesting thought experiments and stories about that,

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<v Speaker 1>which also the importance of sci fi in leading to

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<v Speaker 1>scientific discovery and like shaping scientific imagination and creative thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>A little anecdote related to that, China believed so much

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<v Speaker 1>in that idea that like that there was a point

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<v Speaker 1>where they were like, we're not making as much scientific

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<v Speaker 1>progress in our labs as we would like. And due

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<v Speaker 1>to finding out that like a lot of these scientific

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<v Speaker 1>geniuses were huge sci fi readers, they created a prize

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<v Speaker 1>for like basically an X prize, but ours was for

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<v Speaker 1>just like spaceflight. Theirs was for like trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi writing going that famous book The Three Body

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<v Speaker 1>Problem as a result of that effort. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to think anecdotes like Einstein was a sci fi nerd,

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<v Speaker 1>probably helped that happen. And then speaking of China, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say that and I learned this kind of after

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<v Speaker 1>we started recording. Not uniformly great on the racism stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, you know, vocally against anti black in America,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Hong Kong, Einstein wrote the following, even those

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<v Speaker 1>reduced to working like horses never give the impression of

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<v Speaker 1>conscious suffering. A peculiar herd like nation, often more like

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<v Speaker 1>automatons than people. And then he further opined on the

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<v Speaker 1>character of the people he saw in China. No Einstein

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<v Speaker 1>stop opining. He said that people were industrious, filthy, and obtuse,

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<v Speaker 1>and expressed disdain for the way the Chinese don't sit

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<v Speaker 1>on benches, blah blah blah, just like a bunch of stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>wrongheaded shit, which I think gets to the point we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about about sort of expertise drift where you're

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<v Speaker 1>like told you're smart and write about everything, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you start popping off about things like the essential character

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<v Speaker 1>of some people. You saw out the window of a

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<v Speaker 1>tour bus. We see it with actors who like look

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<v Speaker 1>cool in movies and are like, I should be the

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<v Speaker 1>lead singer of a band. And then lastly, a question

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't really get to, but I had this

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind as I was heading into the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, why haven't there been more Einstein's? Like why

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<v Speaker 1>where have all the Einstein's gone out? And like one

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<v Speaker 1>theory is that I probably believe more than others is

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<v Speaker 1>just like he is that dude, he like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these geniuses happen once every hundred years, Galileo Newton, Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>And then partly I think he also had the trappings

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<v Speaker 1>of an icon and was like willing to do the

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<v Speaker 1>light self mythologizing that I talked about in the episode

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<v Speaker 1>in the conversation. But then also if there is a reason,

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<v Speaker 1>like if there is something different about our world that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it not friendly to finding the Einsteins of our generation.

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<v Speaker 1>I also am repeatedly struck, just in covering our zeitgeist,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's pretty clear that we have less and less

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<v Speaker 1>of a meritocracy than we have in the past, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't perfect in Einstein's time. Einstein was pushed

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<v Speaker 1>back by anti Semitism, failed to get hired, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time was able to not starve to

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<v Speaker 1>death when he was failing to get the jobs that

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted, and ultimately was able to make these amazing

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<v Speaker 1>discoveries in spite of and because of those failures. But today,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of that creative genius and energy

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<v Speaker 1>like gets subsumed by billionaires or brands that are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like take that spark and like monetize that and

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<v Speaker 1>like take it for themselves. The thought occurred to me that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the reasons that I think thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about icons is interesting is that we are currently living

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<v Speaker 1>in a world that is being misled by some very

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<v Speaker 1>powerful icons of our time, and oftentimes they are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Elon Musk. Like I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, who's our modern day Einstein, Like, up until

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<v Speaker 1>a couple years ago, a lot of people would say

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk, And I feel like, in our world, like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he was born to parents who like

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<v Speaker 1>owned ruby minds and like used his intellect to become

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<v Speaker 1>the richest person in the world are things to take

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<v Speaker 1>into account of. Like I think that there is a

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<v Speaker 1>built in advantage to being extremely wealthy today and built

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<v Speaker 1>in kind of disadvantage to not being extremely wealthy today

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<v Speaker 1>that probably are not making us the most efficient Einstein

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<v Speaker 1>finding machines. So I think the system isn't set up

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<v Speaker 1>that well to find the next Einstein. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>he might just be a singular genius. There might not

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<v Speaker 1>be other Einstein's to find. All right, those are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I wanted to hit at the end here.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed this episode. We should be making

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<v Speaker 1>more of them, and we will talk to you probably

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<v Speaker 1>this afternoon whatever the next episode of the Daily Zeicheist is.

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<v Speaker 1>Until then, Bye bye,