1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Also media, what. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Brett my Kavanaughs? I'm Robert Evans, and this is it 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: could happen here? A podcast about it happening here with 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: me today is Sophie Lichterman and Mia Wong. We're going 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: to be talking about a guy who is near and 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: dear to my heart because the second to the last 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: conversation I ever had with my mom was about Brett Kavanaugh. Mia, 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: what are we going to learn today? 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Boy, have you done the what's brending my Kavanaugh? Before? 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: Like, I'm certain I haven't. Why would I have? 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if if oddly familiar, So if he has, 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: somebody let me know, thank you. Yeah, tell us the 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: good and the bad. 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: Yeah we already know the ugly. Yeah, I'm body shaming 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Brett Kavanaugh. Yeah that's right, motherfucker. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: That's right, motherfucker. 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: The worst thing he consequences he's ever going to suffer 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: are this bad news cycle and me saying something that's 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: not legally defamatory. And if he wants to fucking prove it, 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: you can sue me over it. 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: He has a sweet gig for life. Yeah, he's set, 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: is set, bro. 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he sucks so bad that even like you know, 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Midwest dads hate him, so at least there's. 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: That, yeah, he's he's really rad sid And so I 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: think I think the place to start with this actually 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: is not with kavanall, but with Trump, because what we're 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: talking about today is a thing that we kind of 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: knew was true but didn't know the extensive until now, 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: which is that the supposed FBI investigation into everything that 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: Brett Kavanaugh did was like fake and deliberately fucked by 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Trump specifically, Like this is Trump specifically told them to 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: just like not do the investigation, and so they didn't 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: do the investigation and nothing happened. This is this sort 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: of how we got confirmed. And I think the interesting 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: thing about this partially is because I hate Breakabital. Yeah, 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: he sucks the worst guy, real dick, Yeah, But I 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: think the everything about him is like I feel like 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: everyone has forgotten what it was like to live under Trump. 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: I agree, because there was just so much shit happening 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: all the time, Like every single every single day was 43 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: like a new one of these things. And I want 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: to go back to what like one week of Trump 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: was like, because every single fucking week was like this, 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: and it was the most miserable thing. So who is 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 3: Brett Kavanaugh. He's one of the nine assholes who get 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: to decide whether we all have rights for people who've 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: sort of forgotten his background. So he's like an old old, 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: like nineties era kind of like protege of the nineties 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: Republican gruls. He's like one of the people who helps 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: Ken Starr do the like Monica Lewinsky trial. Like he's 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: he's involved in a whole bunch of sort of like 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: Republican rat fucking operations. He's also and I think this 55 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: one's actually important to remember as to go up to 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: the election, Kavidall was part of the legal team that 57 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: helped Bush do the original stop the steal in two 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: thousand years just like straight up stole the election in Florida. 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: So I love that these guys keep getting jobs as 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: opposed to I don't know, getting the punishment for treason. 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: And he's only fifty nine years old. Yeah, he's so 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: young for that job. 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: We have like forty more years of him. 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: If you ever wanted like a clear reason why we 65 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: shouldn't do things like the death penalty for treason, it's 66 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: because when people commit treason, nothing happens. 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: To them. 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: And when people I don't know agitate for Puerto Rican independence, 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: they get executed. Like that's that's that's what happens with 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: those laws. I just bad avoid laws existing. 71 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially avoid all of your laws being dictated 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: by a bunch of a bunch of fucking serial predators. Yeah, 73 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: and this gets us too. So Kevinaugh's appointment was very, 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: very close. The Republicans at the time they controlled the Senate, 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: but they had a fifty two to forty eight margin, 76 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: and a lot of those kind of marginal senators were 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: like there were there was. 78 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: There was a more realistic chance of it not happening 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: then typically Yeah, but they still fucked it in the end. 80 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course. 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: But you know the reason the reason why it was 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: close is, as I think most people probably remember, Kavanaugh 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: is a serial sexual predator. He has sexually assaulted so 84 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: many fucking people. People saw him do it. There were 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: times when he was the only fucking person there he 86 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: did there were times when we did it in crowds. 87 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: He definitely one hundred percent did it. And if he 88 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: wants to fucking sue me about it, like, I'll see 89 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: you in court, motherfucker. 90 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: And while we're here, Clarence Thomas also a predator, thank you. 91 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: Yes, we're going to get to that. 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: Let's let's be clear here, Like if we're doing an 93 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 2: Olympics of predators, Clarence Thomas is up in the number 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: one spot. Brett Kavanaugh's down in place three. You know, 95 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: Thomas is a much, much more I don't know, expansive predator. 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some belief at the time in this 97 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: is sort of like every single article about this like 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: talked about how this is PEAKB two. But it is 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: sort of important that like this, it was a real 100 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: possibility that he was going to go down in flames. Yeah, 101 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: it has happened before, it can happen again, and it 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: was a real issue for him, And it was a 103 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: real issue for him in large part because Christine bloss 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: A Forge, who's a psychology professor, just like testified under 105 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: oath in one of the most like fucking harrowing things 106 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: I've ever seen on the floor of the Senate. Horrif. Yeah, 107 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: the thing I stuck with b was like he was 108 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: laughing while he did it. It's just like, this guy 109 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: is a fucking monster. 110 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean. 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: One of the things that you do have to take 112 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: into account, is that, like the media infrastructure that world 113 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 2: up to defend Brett Kavanaugh to ensure that this didn't 114 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: take him down existed in part because about a third 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: of right wing media, like about a third of that 116 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: whole infrastructure system exists because of the Clarence Thomas hearings 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: like that and Nixon's resignation being forced are kind of 118 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: the two inciting incidents of modern conservative media. Those were 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: the things that made them really commit to the idea that, like, 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: we have to build a completely separate ecosystem of facts 121 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: because if we let reality in it, all, like our 122 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: guys who are all sex predators and criminals will never 123 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: be able to win or stay in office. 124 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. And also, I mean it's worth noting too that 125 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: like Roger ayles Off, who is like one of the 126 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: people responsible for building all this infrastructure, was also himself 127 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: just a surreal predator on a like frankly incomprehensible scale. Yes, 128 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: And so all these people were also just defending themselves 129 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: because they also are all fucking their own sometimes miniature 130 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: capital sometimes worse Kavenaughs. And it into this sort of breach, right, like, 131 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: so this is this is this is a real pr 132 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: crisis to Republicans, this is this is going even worse 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: for them than then the last time that they fucking 134 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: did this, which was, as we've alluded to, when they 135 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: got Clarence Thomas on and when Joe Biden like personally 136 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: helped railroad Anita Hill to make sure that when she 137 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: would get fucked when she to testify against Clariss Thomas. 138 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: So that's great, incredible stuff. There was a point in 139 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: our nation's history where that was actually like a political 140 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: problem for Joe Biden. We're fucking no longer there anymore. 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: And into this breach steps what's supposed to be an 142 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: FBI investigation. 143 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, ostensibly. 144 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm going to read from a recently released report, 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: and there's gonna be I'm going to quote from this 146 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: report a lot because this is this is the sort 147 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: of new information that we have. 148 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: Where can people see the report? 149 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: It will be in the description. If you just like 150 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: search Sheldon Whitehouse Report, you should be able to find it. 151 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: There'll be a link in the notes. 152 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll link it. 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like it's like thirty pages. It's actually out there. 154 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: It's more like twenty pages because like a bunch of 155 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: the mergercizations. So it's a pretty easy read. I'm going 156 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: to read some of it. And also I do want 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: to point out the fact that this any Senate Judiciary 158 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Committee member who wrote this thing is named Sheldon white House. 159 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: Incredible name, incredible center. 160 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: That is a great name. Where does that come from? 161 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: That can't be a real name. That can't be a 162 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: name that existed. That can't be a name that existed 163 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: before the White House, right, Like it has to have 164 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: at some point been named after the White House, right. 165 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: I mean, why else would you have that name? Well, 166 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: it could just mean that this family historically lived in 167 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: a White House for seven hundred years. 168 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: You'd have to be in a White House for a 169 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: long ass time to get that last name. 170 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: So, just from the report quote, after hearing the testimony 171 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: by Ford and Kavanaugh, the Judiciary Committee agreed to request 172 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: the FBI he knocked a supplemental background investigation quote limited 173 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: to current credible allegations against Kavanaugh before the full Senate 174 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: voted on his confirmation. And so there's an important detail 175 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 3: here that wasn't clear to anyone at the time, because 176 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: fucking no one knows how the minutia of FBI investigations work. 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: But this was not actually a full FBI investigation. This 178 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: is this is something called a like supplemental background investigation, 179 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: and we'll get into what exactly that is in a second, 180 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: but it's not like a real FBI investigation. And this 181 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: investigation does what it was supposed to do, which was, 182 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: you know, clear Kavanaugh's name and offer Republican Senators to 183 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: be able to vote for him without immediately getting destroyed politically. 184 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: What it didn't do was like actually conduct an investigation. 185 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: R Trump very famously at this time it says that 186 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: the investigation had quote free reign and it unbelievably did 187 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: not bull fucking shit. Yeah, he just lied about this, 188 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 3: like yep. Yeah. The administration directly ran the investigation, killed it, 189 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: and then used its political power and the FBI itself 190 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: to you know, illegitimately railroad a serial predator or on 191 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: at the Supreme Court to take away of when's right 192 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: to get into abortion. And then after that they stonewalled 193 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: the investigation for six years. So this is how that 194 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: sort of process worked. I'm going to quote from that 195 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: report again. Third, although the Trump administration and the FBI 196 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: assured the Senate that the FBI's investigation was being conducted 197 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: quote by the book. They failed to disclose that there 198 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: was actually no quote unquote book at all. The FBI 199 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: produced no written records for supplemental background investigation, saying it 200 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: was merely acting as the quote agent for the White 201 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: House in such matters. 202 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Which white house was it? Sheldon white House? 203 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: Sorry? No, white House? 204 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: Bad? 205 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: The one with the president of the bad white House. 206 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, I was, I was trying to 207 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: debunk his last name. He comes from the longest line 208 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: of nepotism of that held. 209 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, oh, they must have 210 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: gotten named that back when like the fact that they 211 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: had a house at all was noteworthy. 212 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, these people have paint. 213 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: It literally kept going. I was like, okay, one level, okay, 214 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: two levels, okay, three leves okay for this Okay, when 215 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: does it end? 216 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: And then I got bored. And the funny puartterback of 217 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: this again is that like, this is the good guy 218 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 4: in this story? Is my nepo baby, like like a 219 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: corruption guy. 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: Junior Senator of Rhode Island. Yeah, okay, yeah. 221 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: And I want to kind of focus in on this 222 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: statement in and of itself, because this is just like 223 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: an absolutely hideous of you, just like the hideous power 224 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 3: of the unitary executive just do whatever the fuck it wants. Like, 225 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: what do you mean that the FBI produced no written 226 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: protocols for for how they're supposed to do supplemental background investigation? 227 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: What do you mean that they were quote acting as 228 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: an agent for the White House? That's batshit? Why why 229 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: their security service is literally directly answered to one guy 230 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: who could just tell them what to do whatever the 231 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: fuck he wants. That's insane. That is a that is 232 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: a fucking that is a drange political system. And yet 233 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: this is you know, this is this is the system 234 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be doing this stuff, which is also 235 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: very funny because White House is like not really trying 236 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: to get into a feud with the FBI. So there's 237 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: a lot of kind of like e sculpletoryself of the FBI. 238 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 3: But like, also everything the FBI does in this is 239 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: such a fiasco that it's very clearly like also very 240 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: much their fault. I'm gonna read another quote from this. 241 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: This is from a bit later in the report. Fourth, 242 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 3: the FBI's tip line was not used to facilitate the 243 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: FBI supplemental background investigation into the allegations against Kavanall on 244 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: instructions from the White House, the FBI did not investigate 245 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: thousands of tips that came through the FBI's tip line. Instead, 246 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: all tips related to Kavanall were forwarded to the White 247 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: House without investigation. If anything, the White House may have 248 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 3: used the tip line to steer FBI investigators away from 249 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: derogatory or damaging information, which is again absolutely nuts, insane 250 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: and like, yes, so this. 251 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: Is the kind of thing that like should be serious crime, right, 252 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: like yeah that you go, you get locked up for forever, 253 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: like this is a forever crime. Yeah, it seems much 254 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: more serious than I don't know, robbing a bank to 255 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: try and fund the Puerto Rican independence movement. 256 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not clear to me whether this would have 257 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: been a giant scandal for a normal administration, just because 258 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: the American presidency has so much power, but it should 259 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: have been like this was just like a thing that 260 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: would happen every week under Trump, was like he would 261 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 3: just do shit like this, do you know also what 262 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: you should do? Shit like I don't know, that was 263 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: not my best pivot, no, no, but but do shit 264 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: like yeah, like like these products and services that support 265 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: the podcast, and we are back. We've gotten to the 266 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: point where again the FBI's tip line is not actually 267 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: big years of the investigation, they're sending it all to 268 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: the White House. The report found that so the FBI, 269 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: like and I talked about the public at the time, 270 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: they talked to ten people who they said had like 271 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: direct knowledge of the situation. But again they only talk 272 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: to ten people, and there are there's a whole bunch 273 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: of people who had very relevant evidence about a lot 274 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: of important stuff in this Like, so one of the 275 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: claims that's going on here is that Kavanaugh was just 276 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: wasted all the time. And this is like every single 277 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: person you talk to who knew Kavanaugh in college and 278 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: that isn't like directly employed by the Republican Party was like, 279 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: oh yeah, this guy was wasted all the time, right, 280 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: And this became a big part of the trial. And 281 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: there were a whole bunch of people who try to 282 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: go to the FBI to be like, hey, he did this, 283 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: and they just like would not talk to them. People 284 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: who tried to come forward, like they wouldn't talk to 285 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: people who sent them information to the tip line. They 286 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: just like didn't talk to them at all, I'm going 287 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: going to read from the thing again. According to a 288 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: quote executive summary, if the FBI supplemental background investigation issued 289 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: by the Judiciary Committee majority, the majority of THAT'SIY was 290 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: Republican majority. So that's why it's fucked. These people were 291 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: quote all witnesses with potential firsthand knowledge at the allegations. 292 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: The FBI did not, however, interview Ford or Kavanaugh, the 293 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: witnesses potentially with the most first and knowledge, nor did 294 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: it speak to other potentially corroborating witnesses who had not 295 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: witnessed the events firsthand. Nevertheless, the Judiciary Committee's Republicans executive 296 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: summary concluded that the quote supplemental background investigation confirms there 297 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: is no cooperation of allegations made by doctor Ford and 298 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: Ms Ramirez, So they didn't talk to either Kavanaugh or Ford, 299 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: the two people who the thing was a ballant. 300 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, why would you need to 301 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: do that, right, Like. 302 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: Wait, what the fuck? This is so insane. The other 303 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: part of this is, so the FBI's initial background check 304 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: didn't turn up any of this, and so the supplemental 305 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: thing is being done in place of like the normal 306 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: background check. Because the normal background check was also done 307 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: like shit, and so they never figured out any of 308 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: this incredibly obvious stuff about him. And meanwhile, like the 309 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: supplemental one, just they just kept being like, oh, well, 310 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: we don't actually need to talk to the people who 311 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: this is about for incredibly nebulous reasons. And the other 312 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: part of this that's going on is that like, while 313 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: this process is happening, the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee 314 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: are trying to figure out how this process works, and 315 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: Trump just like refuses to talk to any of them, 316 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: and the FBI refuses to fucking send any of them. 317 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: People are fighting out like we we we know that 318 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: there's no specific process for this like supplemental investigation thing, 319 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: because like their staffers found it out from a YouTube video. Jesus, 320 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Like they did not find this out from the FBI. 321 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: It was like this guy senator staffers were like watching 322 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: YouTube videos to figure out how this investigation was supposed 323 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: to work. So and it turns out we had known 324 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: at the time that the FBI was doing some kind 325 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: of shady stuff. But what we know now is that 326 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: so Ford and her lawyers repeatedly tried to talk to 327 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: the FBI and they were just never able to do so, right, 328 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: the FBI completely stonewalled them, and it turns out that 329 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: they still walled them because Trump specifically ordered the FBI 330 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: not to talk to her or Kavanaugh what what? Which 331 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: is absolutely insane? Yeah, I love the law. It turns 332 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: out this is this is this is the part of 333 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: this is the most insane. 334 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: Right. 335 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: Everyone thought that the FBI was doing a normal FBI investigation, right, 336 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: And part of what's going on here is that the 337 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: media is just these like absolute credulous idiots, right, because 338 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: every single day the media is reporting that like Trump 339 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: is allowing an open investigation because like somehow again this 340 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 3: is like two years into him being in office, right, 341 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: none of these people have figured out that every single 342 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: thing he says is a lie. They're all like, oh yeah, 343 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: Trump keeps saying that these people can talk to whoever 344 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: they want and they can investigate whoever they want. And 345 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: this gets to the point where the FBI is calling 346 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: the White House every day because they'll be reading the 347 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: news reports that say we could talk to anyone, and 348 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: they'll be like, hey, you told us we can't talk 349 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: to these people, and they'll be like, no, no, actually, 350 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: you still can't talk to these people. And it turns 351 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: out that what's happening is this like quote unquote supplemental investigation. 352 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 3: It's not an FBI investigation. They can only do things 353 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: that are like quote unquote directed by the President, So 354 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: they could only talk to the people who the President 355 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: tells them to talk to, and they can't look at 356 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: evidence that the President doesn't tell them to to look at. 357 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: And so what ends up happening is that, like you know, 358 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: there's initially like four people that they're they're supposed to 359 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: be talking to, right, and you know, they keep getting 360 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: these like press things that are like, oh, hey, this 361 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: is the full this is an open investigation. You can 362 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: like do whatever you want. And eventually they put in 363 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: like six more peoples, like they talked to ten total people. 364 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: But because this is an investigation that is not being 365 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: run by the FBI, really it's being it's being directly 366 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: ran by Trump himself, which he's lying about because of that, 367 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: they fucking never talked to anyone. And then also again 368 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: as we talked about, right that that tip line, they 369 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: set up a bunch of the people who tried to 370 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: talk to the FBI, who the FBI wouldn't talk to, 371 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: were like told Okay, go submit stuff to this tip line, 372 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: and the FBI later admits that the tip line was 373 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: like never. 374 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: Real, sure have a nice fake tip line. 375 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, they never used any of an investigation. They sent 376 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: it all to Trump. Yeah. And the reason they did 377 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: it was that they were sick of people calling their 378 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: regular tip line, so they set up a specific tip 379 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: line so they could just have all the stuff that 380 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: they would never listen to and in sad the sense 381 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: of the White House, so they could do I guess 382 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: like opo research bullshit on it. So this is just 383 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: straight up a sham. There's no actual investigation going on. 384 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: The media people at the time should have been able 385 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: to figure out that obviously this thing was bullshit, right, 386 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 3: but nobody looked into it except for this one guy 387 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: and the Senate Dentiary Committee. And so the support comes 388 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: back and goes like, yeah, we did no research. We 389 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: talked to like ten people and we didn't like ask 390 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: them anything, and we didn't use any of the research 391 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 3: that we had, and we have cleared this guy. As 392 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: this is happening, right, the Judiciary Committee Democrats are like 393 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: trying to figure out what the fuck is going on, 394 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: and this begins a six year process of a senator 395 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: White House just fighting a war with the actual White 396 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: House and the FBI and the DDA to try to 397 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: figure out what the fuck just happens. And the interesting 398 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 3: part of this also is that so obviously the Trump 399 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: administration was never going to talk to them, right, which 400 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: is idiots of itself incredibly disturbing that like the Senate 401 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: Judiciary Committee, who in theory is one of the organizations 402 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: that supposed to be doing oversight of the FBI, would 403 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: send requests of the FBI for your information, the FBI 404 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: would tell him to fuck off. 405 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 406 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: But the interesting part is they kept doing this under Biden, 407 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: So Biden's FBI was also doing this. It was awesome. 408 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: I love I just love they do at GRETA, which 409 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: fucking liberals like have concluded politically at least that they 410 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: have to be as like vociferously pro law enforcement as 411 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: they can. And all cops ever do is say we 412 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: are just waiting for the chance to kill you. Like, yeah, 413 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: it's great, cool, it's stuff. 414 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: I'm relign from this. It's so insane. When the Senators 415 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: followed up, they faced the challenge of aligning FBI, DOJ 416 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: and White House equities so they sent like requests for 417 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: the emails between Trump and the FBI right figure out 418 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: whether Trump was doing the thing he was doing, which 419 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: was like directly running the investigation himself. The FBI claimed 420 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: it cannot answer without authorization from the DOJ in the 421 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 3: White House. The DOJ directed the senator's inquiries to the 422 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: White House of the FBI, and the White House referred 423 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: the senators back to the agencies. So they're doing this 424 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 3: like they're doing the like the circular run around thing 425 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: you give him your insurance company where they tell you 426 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: to talk to three people and every single one of 427 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: them tells you to talk to the other one. But again, 428 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: this is the Biden DOJ, the Biden FBI, and the 429 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: Biden administration all doing this. The FBI finally provides documents 430 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: about like their contact with Trump for the investigation. They 431 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: finally provided the documents in November of twenty twenty three. 432 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: This investigation started in late twenty eighteen. It took half 433 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: a decade, almost half of which was under the Biden administration. 434 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: And also Senator white House literally threatening to torpedo and 435 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: nomination for the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel like he 436 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: had to threaten the Department of Justice in order to 437 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: get them to send the documents that proved that Trump 438 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: colluded to south Kavanaugh investigation, which even to some like 439 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: a political standpoint from the Democrats, Right, why the fuck 440 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: would you not want that in the open? I mean, 441 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess unless you're Joe Biden, you don't 442 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: want to him remembering like all the shit you need 443 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 3: to need a hill. But like, this is literally free 444 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: political ammunisation of your opponent, like abusing the political process. 445 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: And it still took a Democratic senator just directly threatening 446 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 3: the doj of a democratic administration to get this out. 447 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: I just like it also took so many years. Like, yeah, 448 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: Cavanaugh has has been able to take away and fuck 449 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: up our rights since what twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. Yeah, 450 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: and the damage he's done is permanent. 451 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he will be around in office, possibly very likely 452 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: for most of the rest of our lives. 453 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 454 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, it's only fifty nine years old. 455 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have another thirty years there at least. 456 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. And if this stuff had been known, she absolutely 457 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 3: would not have gotten nominated. Right, there were two unbelievably 458 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: close votes to get him I'm appointed. Right, there was 459 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: a first vote where the Republicans straight up bypassed the 460 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: fellow buster and still almost lost, and it turns out 461 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: that Okay, the actual final vote ended up being fifty 462 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: to forty eight with two abstensions, and one of the 463 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: essensions is this guy was going to his daughter's wedding 464 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: or something. But the other abstention was Lisa Morowski, who's 465 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: the senator from Alaska, who's like the most sort of 466 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: liberal Republican senators and she does like a coward present 467 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: vote so it can happen, and if she had voted no, 468 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: and if Joe Manchin hadn't fucking cross party lines to 469 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: get to get him in office, which I think I 470 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: also people just forget about. Joe mentioned that he is 471 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: also like individually specifically the guy who got fucking Kavanaugh 472 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: pointed this would have failed, and the only reason that 473 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: it didn't fail, and that this guy was able to 474 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: fucking destroy ROPHI wade, is that Trump just straight up 475 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: ran a fake FBI investigation and lied to everyone about 476 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: it and fucking railroad of the nomination through. That's fucking Kavanaugh. 477 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: And I think I think the thing that close in 478 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: here again is like every single week of Trump is 479 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: just like this, yeah, right, like every single day has 480 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: some bullshit like this. It just like fucks everyone for 481 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: the rest of their lives. 482 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 483 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: And it's deeply grim that he could take power again 484 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: and we could get back to like the stuff he 485 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: was doing at the end of his administratory. Who's just 486 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: like having protesters killed with federal marshols. 487 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's the scary thing about it, right, is 488 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: there's not any kind of like functional resistance to this. Right, 489 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: the left has no power, has no serious organizing capacity 490 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: in the United States and can't get on the same 491 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: page about anything that matters, whereas liberals, when they have 492 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: four years of control of the federal government cannot adequately 493 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: prosecute an attempt to overthrow the government and murder them. 494 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 495 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: So I don't know, uh, you know, make sure you 496 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: got clean water, folks, check on that garden. 497 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. 498 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: It's just so bleak because, like I said earlier, everything 499 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: is so permanent. 500 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, like just lasts so 501 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: fucking long. 502 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it lasts so long, and like and like we 503 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: we don't even know the damage that Kavanaugh is going 504 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: to do to our society because of Trump. And it's 505 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: also just terrifying that, you know, Trump was able to 506 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: manipulate the system in this way and that so many 507 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: people were silenced and now our rights are gone, yeah, 508 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: or our rights are going to be taken away. 509 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: We have no idea. 510 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: What else is going to be taken Yep, we have 511 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: no idea. What else is going to get fucked up? 512 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: We have ideas? 513 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: Idea is that that Again, the problem is the root 514 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: of the problem is that liberals work tirelessly in this 515 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: country to stop the left from gaining any power, and 516 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: the left works tirelessly to stop itself from having any 517 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: kind of influence by having no capacity to organize or 518 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: compromise with people who do not agree with whatever their 519 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: little brand of leftism is right, whereas conservatives are willing 520 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: to work together with other conservatives they hate for forty 521 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: straight years in order to get us to the position 522 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: that we're in. That's what happened is they had message discipline, 523 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: they had organizing discipline, and they successfully pushed their madness 524 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: into the mainstream in such a way that now the 525 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: Democratic Party in a lot of ways is expending a 526 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: huge amount of its efforts on moving in the direction 527 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: of that madness, especially as regards immigration. Look at where 528 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: we've moved on immigration from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty four. Right, 529 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: that is the result of disciplined power building as opposed 530 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: to know what liberals and the left to do, which 531 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: is fight with each other and fight amongst each other 532 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: and engage in a mix of like craven power politics 533 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: and worshiping various con artists, and the right worships con 534 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: artists too. They just actually get power out of the deal. 535 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like this. The other terrifying thing about 536 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: this story is that it's not fucking everywhere. It's not everywhere. 537 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: Ten years ago, this would be the scandal of all scandals, 538 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: and it's barely barely a headline, no. 539 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: Because no one's going to do anything about it. It's 540 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: like it's like Elon Musk paying people a million dollars 541 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: a day to vote in Pennsylvania, Like that should be illegal, 542 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: Like you can, you can at least make a strong 543 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: case based on existing laws that that is election interference, 544 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: the kind of which that can land you in prison. 545 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: Everyone knows nothing's going to happen to him Nothing's going 546 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: to happen to him. If Kamala wins, right, if the 547 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: Dims have a blowout and wind up with both Houses 548 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: of Congress, nothing is going to happen to Elon Musk. 549 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: It's yeah again, just like we have no idea how 550 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: how long this is going to get grow on and 551 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: how much worse it could get and uh, yeah I have. 552 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: Some idea, but I podcasted about those back in twenty nineteen, Sophie. 553 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I was there. I was quite literally there. 554 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 555 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, so thanks Miah, that was a. 556 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: Boomer, Thank you, Mia. 557 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: No, this was good. I uh, this is solid and 558 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: a bot Again. 559 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: When I started this by saying, my second to the 560 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: last conversation I had in person with my mom was 561 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: about Kavanaugh. It was hers almost screaming at me because 562 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: of how unfair what the Democrats did to Brett Kavanaugh 563 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: was because of the good man that they and she 564 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: felt the same way about Clarence Thomas right that like 565 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: these guys were the victims of media assassination attempts. She 566 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: feel the same way about Bill Cosby. By the way, anyway, whatever, 567 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: I don't need to yell about my mom. I've yelled 568 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: about enough this episode. 569 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 3: Well, tomorrow's episode will be more fun. I promised, we're 570 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: gon We're gonna yell about why the Kundable prizes fake 571 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: and read some of the doubleest things you've ever seen 572 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: in your life. 573 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, there we go, there we go. Back to 574 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: the good stuff, Back to the good stuff. Yeah. Mea 575 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: has been. 576 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Deeply excited to do this episode, So look look out 577 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: for that one. 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