WEBVTT - #807 Packers Unscripted: Dealing with Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Lake Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Wes Hodko. It's coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you Hear from our studios at Lambeufield to preview Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>big NFC North showdown. It's the Packers and the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be a three twenty five Central Time kickoff.

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<v Speaker 1>And Wes, that outfit of yours looks familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. So we had a bunch of practical jokers

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<v Speaker 2>at Packers dot Com by the name of Haley Helmley

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<v Speaker 2>and Kristen Crispy Shand that decided to work their way

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<v Speaker 2>into our studio, the grim at Packers Studio and try

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<v Speaker 2>to replicate the irreplicable. And Mike Spofford and Wes how

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<v Speaker 2>Kwitz here on Packer's Unscripted. And I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>this for anybody that might have caught that video. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on Twitter for those who are wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah talking about Yeah. By the way, this does nothing

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody on the audio version of this right now, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But this sweater that I'm wearing that Lisa Trickle from

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers Pro Shop or the pro shop. She was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that originally picked this out for me, Duke

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<v Speaker 2>Bober our boss, and I'm gonna put you on blast, Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna mention your name. I'm gonna say your name.

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<v Speaker 2>He comes up to me and he's like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a packers thing going on next week. Could

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<v Speaker 2>I borrow your sweater for sure? Yeah, no problem, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy to help my coworkers. And as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>he was actually lifting this so that Haley could go

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<v Speaker 2>and use it along with a wig that does not

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<v Speaker 2>look like my hair at all, maybe the twenty twelve

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<v Speaker 2>version of Wes Hodkowitz, but not the twenty twenty four version.

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<v Speaker 2>And they put together a little piece of business kind

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<v Speaker 2>of trying to mimic Packer's unscripted. I enjoyed it, but

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<v Speaker 2>the North remembers.

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<v Speaker 1>The North remembers there was a little story behind the

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<v Speaker 1>shirt that Chris was wearing as well that I was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely stunned when I saw that video and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that shirt because that was a shirt that I had

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<v Speaker 1>owned long before I worked for the Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>and at some point, just random day, I wore it

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyler Gayeski from our video department. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>intern at the time. This is long before you even

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<v Speaker 1>showed up here. Tyler's been full time for like fifty Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when Tyler was an intern. And I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up gifting the shirt to Tyler. It's a rather loud,

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<v Speaker 1>obnoxious it's a nineties type yeah, Okay, Zach Morris would.

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<v Speaker 2>Have worn that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And Tyler was enamored with the shirt. So when

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<v Speaker 1>he was an intern, I gifted him the shirt. Posterity sake,

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<v Speaker 1>Lo and behold from moving from third floor to second

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<v Speaker 1>floor to now where we have our temporary offices and

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<v Speaker 1>where the video department is down the hall, like, Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>has hung on to that shirt and it showed up

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<v Speaker 1>in Thepackers dot Com mock video with Kristin shand Crispy

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<v Speaker 1>as we call her, wearing it was I was absolutely floored.

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<v Speaker 2>Kristin did a good job too. She that was a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good Mike Spofford she did.

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<v Speaker 1>She did do a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, credit to them.

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<v Speaker 1>The shirt is what really made the made the effort

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<v Speaker 1>rather noteworthy for me. Anyway back to business though, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big football game youhu jump at lambeau Field

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday afternoon Packers against the Lions. Green Bay is six

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<v Speaker 1>and two in second place in the NFC North to

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<v Speaker 1>Troit is six and one, sitting on top of the division.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we dig into the Lions and how they got

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<v Speaker 1>to that six and one record, a quick update on

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers' injury situation. Things still rather murky and uncertain

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<v Speaker 1>at particular spots. Quarterback Jordan Love did not practice on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday due to the groin injury, but he did speak

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<v Speaker 1>with the media and say he definitely and he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wants to play, and he feels it's realistic that he

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<v Speaker 1>could be he could play on Sunday. Possibly even if

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<v Speaker 1>he's unable to practice all week, he still might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to play on Sunday. So that will certainly be

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<v Speaker 1>something monitored throughout the week and all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>until those inactives are turned in ninety minutes before kickoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps running back Josh Jacobs, who left the Jacksonville game

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<v Speaker 1>right at the very end with the ankle bothering him,

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<v Speaker 1>he says he'll be good to go. He wasn't practicing Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's saying it's just body maintenance. He'll be good

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<v Speaker 1>to go come Sunday afternoon. A lot less that we

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<v Speaker 1>know about cornerback Jay r Alexander and safety Evan Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither was practicing on Wednesday. Didn't really hear from either guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and really very much in weight and see mode on

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<v Speaker 1>that as far as as far as the defense is concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's there's potentially all kinds of different scenarios of

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<v Speaker 1>how the Packers go about this game in their secondary

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<v Speaker 1>if they get one of those guys back or both

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<v Speaker 1>of them, or if neither is able to play. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of question marks there. Going up against a

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<v Speaker 1>high powered Detroit Lions offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit Lions offense man is something to behold, and watching

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<v Speaker 2>how they've adjusted and how they've adapted and how they've

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<v Speaker 2>grown over the last three years has been I give

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<v Speaker 2>them a lot of credit. They've drafted well. Dan Campbell

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<v Speaker 2>has instituted a mentality and instilled the philosophy and the

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<v Speaker 2>toughness into that football team. And every single year he's

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<v Speaker 2>been there, that team has gotten better and better and better.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Green Bit Packers have to match that. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot will be made this week and you and I

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<v Speaker 2>will probably talk about it. Some today still about what

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<v Speaker 2>exactly is going to happen to Green Bay on the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive side of the ball, Who's going to be under center,

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<v Speaker 2>what is going to have to happen for the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>to be successful. This game really does hinge though, on

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers' defense being able to answer everything that Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>is going to throw at them, because they have arguably

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<v Speaker 2>the best backfield in the game, certainly one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best two hundred and two headed tandems in professional football

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<v Speaker 2>right now in Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery. Aman Rossain

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<v Speaker 2>Brown is a legitimate superstar. Sam Laporta has proven me wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of the guys that I had a

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<v Speaker 2>big question mark about when he was coming out, if

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<v Speaker 2>he had the size, if he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be the complete player they needed him to be.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been that and then some. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Goff is completing passes at almost a seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>percent clip, that means things are going pretty well for

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<v Speaker 2>your offense. They've been efficient, they've been explosive, they've been dangerous,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Packers have a supreme challenge in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a big time challenge. The Lions have won

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<v Speaker 1>five in a row, a one on one start, and

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<v Speaker 1>really the last four games is where we've seen their

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<v Speaker 1>team kind of take off. They're averaging forty three points

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<v Speaker 1>per game over their last four games in that stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the numbers in front of me exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like Jared Goff has thrown almost as many

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown passes as incomplete pass yeah, or something like that

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<v Speaker 1>over the last four games. Statistically, he has a one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty five passer rating over the last four games.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a month of football with a one to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five passer rating. His passer rating on the season is

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<v Speaker 1>one fifteen, which is impressive enough. You mentioned the two

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<v Speaker 1>headed monster in the backfield, Gibbs and Montgomery. Their carries

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<v Speaker 1>have been almost exactly split. I believe there's only one

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<v Speaker 1>kre different between the two of them. Gibbs is the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the speedster, the home run hitter. Montgomery is

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<v Speaker 1>the power back. But either one of these guys can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever you ask of them in the backfield in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of, you know, whether it's catching passes, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>picking up blitzes, whether it's inside runs or outside runs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Ross Saint Brown. He has forty one receptions

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<v Speaker 1>this season, which is actually more than twice as many

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<v Speaker 1>as anybody else on the Lions. He's clearly the go

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<v Speaker 1>to guy in the passing game. And then second in

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<v Speaker 1>receptions with twenty is Sam Laporta, the tight end you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a fifty two yard touchdown. We're talking about, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, two of the really up and coming and

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<v Speaker 1>reaching the level of premiere tight ends in this league

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be on the field together in Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Laporta and Tucker Craft. You look at their statistics, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at their highlights, you know what they're producing for

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<v Speaker 1>their respective teams, and it's pretty impressive. And both of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are still really young. Bottom line is the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions have just weapons across the board, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>what I think what makes them most dangerous is that

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<v Speaker 1>they've just shown the ability to score in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, you can maybe even hold them down

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of possessions and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>within their next five or six plays, they could score

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns because because they're that explosive and they can

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<v Speaker 1>make things happen that quickly in.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they beat teams is noteworthy. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about a Tennessee Titans team that is really

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<v Speaker 2>struggling right now and is going through a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>different things, and the Detroit Lions ran through them, like

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<v Speaker 2>you should that type of team go back. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago, Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys trying to get their

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<v Speaker 2>season right. Detroit's like, nope, we got this. They wanted

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<v Speaker 2>down to the wire football game, you know against the

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota Vikings thirty one to twenty nine. They're just so

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<v Speaker 2>darn consistent in everything that they do. Now there has

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<v Speaker 2>been adversity. Jamison Williams is suspended for this game. Still

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<v Speaker 2>had that issue, I believe with the performance substance, performance

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<v Speaker 2>enhancing variety. I believe it was two games suspension for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden Hutchinson goes down with it. You know, the devastating

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<v Speaker 2>leg injury. Defensively, that's been something they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to make up for here the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have a guy that necessarily just fits into

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<v Speaker 2>that power pass rushing mode that they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with. But as a collective, a team that

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<v Speaker 2>got so close to the Super Bowl last year has

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<v Speaker 2>picked up right where it left off and has really

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<v Speaker 2>showed that we are still on the incline and we

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<v Speaker 2>still are very much in contention for that Super Bowl championship.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little to them for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely they are. They have. They've taken the field

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<v Speaker 1>through this first half of twenty twenty four look looking

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<v Speaker 1>like a team on a mission, knowing that that they

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<v Speaker 1>let it get away last season in San Francisco in

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<v Speaker 1>that NFC Championship game. You mentioned Hutchinson on the defensive side,

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<v Speaker 1>he is out for the remainder of at least the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season based on what we're hearing he has. He

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<v Speaker 1>had seven and a half sacks before he went down,

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<v Speaker 1>was on his way to potentially, you know, defensive player

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<v Speaker 1>of the year or certainly being in that discussion. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else on the Lions has more than two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half sacks at this point. But that being said, the

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<v Speaker 1>first full game without Hutchinson against the Vikings, they sacked

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold four times, So you can't take anything for

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<v Speaker 1>granted here. What really sticks out to me statistically is

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a defense that has ten interceptions, which

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<v Speaker 1>matches the Packers total ten interceptions on the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the safety Kirby Joseph with five of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>then safety Slash Nickel slot corner Brian Branch with four.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two guys have combined for nine out of the ten.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lions are plus ten in turnover margin this season.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers are plus seven in turnover margin. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of there's a lot of when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the numbers, sort of like something's got to give

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<v Speaker 1>in this game, right, because both these teams both have

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<v Speaker 1>six wins for a reason. But defensively, defensively, I think

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<v Speaker 1>where the Lions have been most vulnerable is against the pass.

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<v Speaker 1>They've had a lot of flags in the secondary, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of first downs by penalty by their opponents. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you look at the ten interceptions and it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so the ten interceptions they have and the way they've

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<v Speaker 1>taken the ball away, So it's not like you can

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<v Speaker 1>just say, all right, well, just let's just drop back

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<v Speaker 1>and throw it right yard, because these guys will find

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<v Speaker 1>ways to make plays.

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<v Speaker 2>And Branch is one of those guys. Mike, This happens

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 2>where someone is considered a top draft pick and he

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<v Speaker 2>falls for whatever reason, it ends up being a second rounder.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think so many people made such a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal about his safety position when it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit Lions, kudos to them. They're like, no, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a nickel cornerback that could be an explosive player in

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<v Speaker 2>this league and they've reaped an ultimate reward with him

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<v Speaker 2>falling into their lap where they did Kirby Joseph a

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<v Speaker 2>good third round pick from him a number of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling you before we started the show, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe he's already up to twelve interceptions or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is in his career. Yeah, certainly he made a

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<v Speaker 2>big coming out party in twenty twenty two with his

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<v Speaker 2>interception off Aaron Rodgers in that finale against green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>to really solidify that victory for the Lions and knock

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers out of the playoffs, securing that winning season

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<v Speaker 2>finally that Detroit had been chasing at that time. And

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<v Speaker 2>again they've just gotten better and better. But between Hutchinson's injury,

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<v Speaker 2>between what's happened with Marcus Davenport, there is an issue

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<v Speaker 2>there as far as their edge rush is concerned. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one area where green Bay does need to take advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it is Jordan Love or whether it is Malik Willis,

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<v Speaker 2>the dangers are different without those two guys on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in Hutchinson's case, who had seventeen quarterback hits at

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<v Speaker 2>the time in which he got injured, the seven and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Half sacks of the prest five games or four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half games or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was constantly on top of the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 2>for him to be gone, now that's something that they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to deal with. But you know what, Mike, again,

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<v Speaker 2>another testament to the way they play. They are a

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<v Speaker 2>complete three phase football team. You look at last week

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<v Speaker 2>with Kalise Fraeman, was that, believe the NFC Special Teams

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<v Speaker 2>Player of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to bring up with what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing in the return game right now too. Khalif

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<v Speaker 1>Raymond takes a punt ninety yards for a touchdown. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was against the Titans. As you said, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the reigning NFC Special Teams Player of the Week, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a big kickoff return as well, seventy plus yards.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first name escapes me, but his last name

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<v Speaker 1>is Dorsey. John Dorsey, Yeah, John Dorsey, good old friend,

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<v Speaker 1>but il Dorsey. So they have a ninety yard punt

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<v Speaker 1>return and a seventy yard kickoff return in the same game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean again, just other examples of the explosiveness of

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<v Speaker 1>the players that they have on the field and the

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<v Speaker 1>way they can the way they can turn a game

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<v Speaker 1>on its head so quickly. Because a couple different things

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<v Speaker 1>to look at here. When they beat the Vikings in Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>they felt but the Lions fell behind ten to nothing

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<v Speaker 1>out of it eating that game, and they didn't blink,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't flinch, and they ended up they ended up

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<v Speaker 1>needing a field goal right at the end to win.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was because of a fumble by David Montgomery

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter that the Vikings scooped and scored,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ran the other wave to surprisingly retake the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're down ten to nothing on the road division rival,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Minnesota Vikings, and you know they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they ended up outscoring them. I believe it was like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight to seven through like the second and third

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<v Speaker 1>quarters of that game last week against the Titans, that

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<v Speaker 1>game is fourteen to fourteen in in the early stages.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point in the first half there it's fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>all and the next thing you know, the Lions have

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<v Speaker 1>ripped off twenty eight or thirty five straight points or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and the game turns into a blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>So these guys can These guys can change games in

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<v Speaker 1>a hurry, I guess, is what my point is.

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<v Speaker 2>And to get back as far as the special teams too,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just they're really solid. I think Jack Fox is

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite punters in the league. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>an All Pro before in this time, he's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys when you watch him, his ball placement is

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<v Speaker 2>just extraordinary. And then Jake Bates has gone in there

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<v Speaker 2>and I think as eleven for eleven on the season

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<v Speaker 2>after everything he did during the XFL year. Again, they're

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<v Speaker 2>very complete. We'll talk about in a minute here. There's

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities for the Packers to win this game, but the

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<v Speaker 2>challenges and the need to be you know, dial into

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<v Speaker 2>your details is so so critical to being able to

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<v Speaker 2>defend a team like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that was what's next on my list is Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gone over all these things that the Lions do

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<v Speaker 1>well and why they are six and one and sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the NFC North and in fact kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the team right now that most people are pegging

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<v Speaker 1>as the team to beat in the NFC in general.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are the keys to victory for Green Bay?

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<v Speaker 1>What do the Packers need to do to come out

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<v Speaker 1>on top in this one?

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<v Speaker 2>Survive the second quarter? I don't know. You dig into

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff a lot. You look at the stat sheet.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see those numbers. It's like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>two points to like twenty twenty seven, twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what Detroit does is, I mean they start

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of almost like a fighter sort of

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<v Speaker 2>finding his range, and then they hammer you in the

0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.160
<v Speaker 2>second quarter, and you know, you look at their their

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<v Speaker 2>ebbs and flows, I mean it's thirty eight, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and two sixty five twenty three. Like there is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of this pattern as far as when they're striking. But

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<v Speaker 2>that is where they've won a lot of these games,

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<v Speaker 2>is they've taken the souls of a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 2>in that second quarter and going into halftime and really

0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.520
<v Speaker 2>making them question everything. They talk so much about the

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<v Speaker 2>point differential in the NFC North and in how extraordinary

0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.320
<v Speaker 2>that has been to this point, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>all four of these teams are actually in the plus

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<v Speaker 2>area if I remember correctly, and the Allions are like

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<v Speaker 2>plus one sixteen. I mean, they are just getting out

0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:43.120
<v Speaker 2>and dominating teams, but there are opportunities. They're strange anomalies

0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.320
<v Speaker 2>with this team, the fact that they're minus one sixteen

0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and the penalty differential, the fact that you know they've

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<v Speaker 2>had some moments there where teams have been able to

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<v Speaker 2>put points on them and they've been able to have

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<v Speaker 2>success against them. But when you're getting hit with waves

0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.040
<v Speaker 2>of offense like the Relions have done, which again with

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<v Speaker 2>a few exceptions, are their top ten and pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>everything top five in a lot, that's ultimately what pushes

0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the tempo of a football game. No matter what it's

0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 2>about points, it's about touchdowns. And the Detroit Lions, with

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<v Speaker 2>how efficient Jared Goff has been playing at an MVP

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<v Speaker 2>caliber level to this point, it's been really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>knock them off their spot. The Packers have to do that, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think for me, for me, this game

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to the explosive play ratio or the explosive

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<v Speaker 1>play equation. Both of these offenses, the Packers and the Lions,

0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.280
<v Speaker 1>they make big plays a lot You know, taking chunksy

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<v Speaker 1>yard it's twenty five yards here, thirty five yards there.

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>The Packers have to win that ratio in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you. I don't think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the Lions from being able to make explosive plays.

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.600
<v Speaker 1>But the more times that you can make them grind

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<v Speaker 1>out a twelve or thirteen play drive in order to score,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just where you give the defense more opportunities to

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<v Speaker 1>possibly get whether it's that pass deflection or punch the

0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>ball out, or somebody gets a really good rush and

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<v Speaker 1>either gets the hit on the quarterback or the really

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<v Speaker 1>good rush that leads to a holding penalty and then

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<v Speaker 1>puts them behind the sticks, and then you have a chance.

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 1>But if they're going to take thirty and forty yard

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<v Speaker 1>chunks of the field on a regular basis, your defense

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to have a chance to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And conversely, offensively, the Packers, in a lot of ways,

0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.359
<v Speaker 1>they live and die by the explosive play. When the

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Packers get an explosive play, they score points on the

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<v Speaker 1>drive more often than not. I'd say it's probably ninety

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<v Speaker 1>to ninety five percent of the time. So the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>still have to be able to do what they do

0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.719
<v Speaker 1>against this defense and take chunks of the field at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the game. If we're looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>place of twenty plus yards and the Packers are, the

0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Packers make more of them than the Lions than I

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<v Speaker 1>like Green Bay's chances to win this football.

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<v Speaker 2>In whatever yards they can't get against the run. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean defensively, the Lions, they've been really good as far

0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.640
<v Speaker 2>as teams and what they're rushing and their averages are.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you dig into that a little bit more,

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.280
<v Speaker 2>it's because so many teams have had to throw from

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.960
<v Speaker 2>being behind their fifth and run defense right now, but

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 2>they're twenty second in yards per rush, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at it with the passing game, yes, teams have

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 2>put up some passing yards because they've had to. If

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.720
<v Speaker 2>you can establish the run and get into your offensive rhythm,

0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 2>especially if it ends up being Malik Willis as your

0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 2>starting quarterback in this thing, if Jordan can't go, that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be absolutely critical. One of the things

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.399
<v Speaker 2>that Packers have done really well Mike in all of

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<v Speaker 2>these appearances, maybe with the exception of the final play

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.919
<v Speaker 2>there that Willis had to come in Brazil, but his

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<v Speaker 2>three games where he basically helped them win the game. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>They've been able to manage possessions at a premium. Every

0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.439
<v Speaker 2>single possession has had meaning for the most part. That

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<v Speaker 2>has to continue against Detroit. If you're going to be

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 2>able to hang in there with the punch just that

0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:48.159
<v Speaker 2>they're going to throw against you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the other thing too, because we know this

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<v Speaker 1>is a Lions team that doesn't turn the ball over

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.760
<v Speaker 1>much that I was actually looking at. The Packers have

0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:02.959
<v Speaker 1>gone five consecutive games without having a turnover free game. Offensively, offensively,

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 1>slash special teams. You cannot turn the ball over in

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:07.679
<v Speaker 1>this game. You may not be able to win the

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 1>turnover battle, but you have to be able to get

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>out of this game at worst at zero zero in

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the turnover takeaway department. Because seeing the Packers only have

0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the one giveaway last week on the interception in the

0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 1>red zone, that was certainly a step in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we've seen with Malik Willis he in all

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<v Speaker 1>the time that he has been playing in place of

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love, he does not put the ball in harm's way.

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.800
<v Speaker 1>He's done a remarkable job of protecting the football. But

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's whether it's love or willis it feels like

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>this game has to be a zero giveaway game. Yep

0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 1>for green Bay. Regardless of what the defense is able

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.479
<v Speaker 1>to do in the takeaway department, the Packers absolutely cannot

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>have a turnover. You know.

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.399
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that has happened to green Bay has

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 2>to win on third downs because the Detroit Lions are

0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 2>the best in ball right now defensively on third downs. Again,

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:00.919
<v Speaker 2>that goes with a lot of teams to throw against him.

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<v Speaker 1>But you what is the they're allowing is it? Is

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it thirty percent or just under right right at right

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.880
<v Speaker 1>at thirty percent? Thirty percent conversions on a third down

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 1>against that defense, It's a It's a tough one to

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<v Speaker 2>We should ever do the draft?

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<v Speaker 1>Will imitate me? So well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ever do the draft one? Like literally remember that

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<v Speaker 2>when Matt Arvin had micd up coon that one time

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<v Speaker 2>that one time. Yeah, yeah, she have Kristen just come

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<v Speaker 2>in with yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just ever come in. She can do the she can

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<v Speaker 1>do the ad reads. It's week nine, yeah in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Wes looking around at the other games that are going on.

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean there is there is no game on the

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<v Speaker 1>slate in the NFL in Week nine that is bigger

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>than Packers and Lions at lambeau Field. But that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>there are other very interesting ones that impact the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>in general as well as the NFC North. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>curious Chicago goes on the road to Arizona. I am

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<v Speaker 1>very curious how the Bears respond to losing a game

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<v Speaker 1>on a Hail Mary, because that kind of loss, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially with everything with you know, the one player Tyreek

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Stevenson whose kind of head was not in the game

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<v Speaker 1>on the final play and all that, that's the kind

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>of thing that can that can really spiral things the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way for a team. So can the Bears respond

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>to that in the appropriate way. Going out to Arizona

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and playing against a Cardinals team that Kyler Murray in

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>that offense, they're getting some things going out.

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 2>They're so scrappy and Marvin Harrison Junior. We talked about

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:09.639
<v Speaker 2>it when the Packers played on I mean, it's just

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 2>such a premium talent and they've been I keep saying it.

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned in last week's show. Seeing if you don't

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>corral Murray what he can do offensively is something to behold.

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of good scrambling quarterbacks, there's a lot

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>of good elusive quarterbacks. He has it all and he

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>can really will you to a victory. Chicago great test

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>for them defensively, but I'm with you, seeing what their

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 2>response to that game is is going to be critical.

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, really realistically, even though the Packers and the

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Lions are the ones that are playing in the NFC

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 2>North and have these big implications both that game. Indianapolis

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Colts traveling to the US Bank to face the Vikings

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>is also very huge too. Joe Flacco is now the

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 2>starting quarterback there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the other one I was going to bring up.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting how that evolved because a couple of

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago that game Indianapolis at Minnesota was flexed into

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the Sunday night time slot. It was just going to

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>be a garden variety afternoon game on Sunday. Since that

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>game was flexed into the Sunday night slot, the Vikings

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>had lost back to back games. They went from five

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to o to five and two, and Indianapolis now has

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>benched young quarterback Anthony Richardson for Joe Flacco. Flacco is

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>stepping in as the starter. It sounds like for the

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.120
<v Speaker 1>long haul here, at least in terms of twenty twenty four,

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>probably for the rest of the season that Flacco is

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be is going to be Indies guys. So

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>now all of that going on and that that game

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>is in is in prime time.

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 2>A couple other original Sunday night game do you remember?

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was Philadelphia against Jacksonville. Oh okay, And yeah,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>they with where the where things were going with the Jaguars,

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the the league and the networks decided they wanted the

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Vikings instead. So a couple other games though that are

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 1>some really interesting implications elsewhere in the NFC. Dallas at

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>three and four is at Atlanta. Atlanta is five and

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 1>three and sitting on top of the NFC South. Right now,

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it kind of feels like we say we say this,

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, at least once every two weeks that the

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.919
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys find themselves in like a must win type of

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>game with what's going on with the Commanders and the

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Eagles in the NFC East. If the Cowboys dropped to

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>three and five, if they lose this game and dropped

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 1>to three and five, they're really really playing uphill the

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. They're in big trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can seem bras you can't ever take

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 2>anything for granted year to year, and you can't always

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 2>have the masth of Okay, well this team played this

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 2>way one year, they're going to run through everybody the next.

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't work like that. Cowboys have had a couple of injuries.

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I think Deron Bland is back this week or at

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>least has had his window activated for return, So potentially

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe that gives you a left here, But they just

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 2>they are a team searching for something right now. Also,

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 2>this has been another lesson in why I wrote the

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 2>story on Chris Brooks. This week, we've talked about Josh

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Jacobs investing into your backfield and understanding the value of

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>having your or your franchise back, whether it's a young guy,

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>whether it's not. The Cowboys are a great example of

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 2>how critical that is. They moved on from Zeke, they

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 2>went with Tony Pollard for a year, they let Pollard go,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>and then they brought Zeke back. After kind of a

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>lackluster year in New England. Their running game has been

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 2>in shambles this year too. Dak has not had that

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>compliment that I think he needs in an offense to

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>really have those explosive plays present themselves. In the Atlanta Falcons,

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 2>as much as we've talked about the Vikings and all

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.199
<v Speaker 2>the free agent signings they've made, the Falcons really have

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of pushed all in in terms of bringing in

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>all these types of guys. I think Justin Simmons had

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 2>come in late, like they had all these different players

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>that they had signed, veterans that have been in the

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 2>league seven eight years, and it took some time to

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>take and Kirk Cousins has been very up and down

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 2>this season. Yeah, but when they're on they're on and this,

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>by no means is an easy one for the Dallas

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Cowboys trying to go into Mercedes Benz and get a victory.

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. The Falcons won a big one in their

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>division last week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which is why.

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And that was on the road. Actually, the Buccaneers were

0:27:55.920 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>wearing the old cream Sickle uniforms and the Falcons knocked

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>them off down there in Tampa. So that's why the

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.479
<v Speaker 1>Falcons are sitting on top of that division. And now

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>they're back home against the Cowboys. Out in the NFC West,

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Rams, a team that is maybe starting

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>to find itself here. They're getting the receivers back. We

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 1>talked about that and the impact that had and beating

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings last Thursday night. The Rams are three

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and four. They are at Seattle going up against a

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks team that is four and four. Four and four

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.719
<v Speaker 1>is the top of the NFC West right now, multiple

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>teams with that record and Seattle trying to figure things

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>out after being at home last week against Buffalo. Buffalo

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>flies all the way across the country and walks into

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Seattle's normally difficult stadium, and just absolutely took it to

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks and that game was it was almost like

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it was never even a contest. Buffalo completely dominated.

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>And now they got to deal with Cup and they

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 2>got to deal with Nikua Yea and that changes everything.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 2>We saw it in that game against the Vikings. Rams

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>are totally different with those two dudes on the field.

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Everything improves when they're out there. Seattle's an other team

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>has been up and down. You know, DK Metcalf potentially

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>getting healthier. But I mean, the fact is is that

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 2>when you're looking at a division right now where so

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>many and again Arizona Cardinals at four and four is

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 2>sitting at top right now for whatever reason, if the

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>season ended after eight weeks, they would be the team

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs right now. Out of this whole equation, Yeah,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>every win in that division is critical, So how that plays,

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 2>it'll be interesting. In addition to the fact that for

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>the sixth time in nine weeks, the New York Jets

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>are in primetime tonight.

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that what is that?

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 2>What is six times? Six times in nine.

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Weeks and they are one of the worst teams in

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>football right now?

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I will say this about the networks they

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>completely loaded up on Aaron Rodgers in the first two

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>months of the season, like they were like, all right,

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>all our chips are in on that, but.

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Here we are all and gambling is always illegal at Bushwood.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But did I hear correctly that Vegas actually has the

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Jets favored over the Texans tonight? It's like it's like

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>by one point or something like that.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>They are at home. But it's weird.

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like Jets minus one was like the line or something.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>But hey, again, I don't want to get into all

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. But the fact that it was Packers last

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>week minus three and a half and then they won

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 2>thirty to twenty seven on that game winning field goal

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>bro wild. But yeah, I mean, Jets are still trying

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to find something. And listen to listen to Rogers press

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>conferences this week. I watch both the postgame one and

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I watched his one on Monday. They are they are,

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>They're they're feeling it right now.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>They're searching.

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 2>They're searching.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>They're searching, is what is what they're doing out?

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