1 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Lake Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Wes Hodko. It's coming to 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: you Hear from our studios at Lambeufield to preview Sunday's 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: big NFC North showdown. It's the Packers and the Lions. 6 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: It will be a three twenty five Central Time kickoff. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: And Wes, that outfit of yours looks familiar. 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: It does. So we had a bunch of practical jokers 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: at Packers dot Com by the name of Haley Helmley 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: and Kristen Crispy Shand that decided to work their way 11 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: into our studio, the grim at Packers Studio and try 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: to replicate the irreplicable. And Mike Spofford and Wes how 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Kwitz here on Packer's Unscripted. And I want to say 14 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: this for anybody that might have caught that video. Okay, 15 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: this is how I know. 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: It's on Twitter for those who are wondering. 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah talking about Yeah. By the way, this does nothing 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: for anybody on the audio version of this right now, right, 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: But this sweater that I'm wearing that Lisa Trickle from 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: the Packers Pro Shop or the pro shop. She was 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: the one that originally picked this out for me, Duke 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: Bober our boss, and I'm gonna put you on blast, Duke, 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna mention your name. I'm gonna say your name. 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: He comes up to me and he's like, hey, you know, 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: I got a packers thing going on next week. Could 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: I borrow your sweater for sure? Yeah, no problem, I'm 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: happy to help my coworkers. And as it turns out, 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: he was actually lifting this so that Haley could go 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: and use it along with a wig that does not 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: look like my hair at all, maybe the twenty twelve 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: version of Wes Hodkowitz, but not the twenty twenty four version. 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: And they put together a little piece of business kind 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: of trying to mimic Packer's unscripted. I enjoyed it, but 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: the North remembers. 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: The North remembers there was a little story behind the 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: shirt that Chris was wearing as well that I was 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: absolutely stunned when I saw that video and I saw 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: that shirt because that was a shirt that I had 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: owned long before I worked for the Green Bay Packers, 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: and at some point, just random day, I wore it 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: and Tyler Gayeski from our video department. He was an 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: intern at the time. This is long before you even 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: showed up here. Tyler's been full time for like fifty Yes, 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: this is when Tyler was an intern. And I ended 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: up gifting the shirt to Tyler. It's a rather loud, 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: obnoxious it's a nineties type yeah, Okay, Zach Morris would. 47 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: Have worn that. 48 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And Tyler was enamored with the shirt. So when 49 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: he was an intern, I gifted him the shirt. Posterity sake, 50 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Lo and behold from moving from third floor to second 51 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: floor to now where we have our temporary offices and 52 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: where the video department is down the hall, like, Tyler 53 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: has hung on to that shirt and it showed up 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: in Thepackers dot Com mock video with Kristin shand Crispy 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: as we call her, wearing it was I was absolutely floored. 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: Kristin did a good job too. She that was a 57 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: pretty good Mike Spofford she did. 58 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: She did do a pretty good job. 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: Yes, credit to them. 60 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: The shirt is what really made the made the effort 61 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: rather noteworthy for me. Anyway back to business though, but 62 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: there's a big football game youhu jump at lambeau Field 63 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon Packers against the Lions. Green Bay is six 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: and two in second place in the NFC North to 65 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Troit is six and one, sitting on top of the division. 66 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: Before we dig into the Lions and how they got 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: to that six and one record, a quick update on 68 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: the Packers' injury situation. Things still rather murky and uncertain 69 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: at particular spots. Quarterback Jordan Love did not practice on 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday due to the groin injury, but he did speak 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: with the media and say he definitely and he definitely 72 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: wants to play, and he feels it's realistic that he 73 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: could be he could play on Sunday. Possibly even if 74 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: he's unable to practice all week, he still might be 75 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: able to play on Sunday. So that will certainly be 76 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: something monitored throughout the week and all the way up 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: until those inactives are turned in ninety minutes before kickoff. 78 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Perhaps running back Josh Jacobs, who left the Jacksonville game 79 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: right at the very end with the ankle bothering him, 80 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: he says he'll be good to go. He wasn't practicing Wednesday, 81 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: but he's saying it's just body maintenance. He'll be good 82 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: to go come Sunday afternoon. A lot less that we 83 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: know about cornerback Jay r Alexander and safety Evan Williams. 84 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Neither was practicing on Wednesday. Didn't really hear from either guy, 85 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: and really very much in weight and see mode on 86 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: that as far as as far as the defense is concerned, 87 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: and there's there's potentially all kinds of different scenarios of 88 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: how the Packers go about this game in their secondary 89 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: if they get one of those guys back or both 90 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: of them, or if neither is able to play. So 91 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: a lot of question marks there. Going up against a 92 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: high powered Detroit Lions offense. 93 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions offense man is something to behold, and watching 94 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: how they've adjusted and how they've adapted and how they've 95 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: grown over the last three years has been I give 96 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: them a lot of credit. They've drafted well. Dan Campbell 97 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: has instituted a mentality and instilled the philosophy and the 98 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: toughness into that football team. And every single year he's 99 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: been there, that team has gotten better and better and better. 100 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: So the Green Bit Packers have to match that. A 101 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: lot will be made this week and you and I 102 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: will probably talk about it. Some today still about what 103 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: exactly is going to happen to Green Bay on the 104 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, Who's going to be under center, 105 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: what is going to have to happen for the Packers 106 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: to be successful. This game really does hinge though, on 107 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: the Packers' defense being able to answer everything that Detroit 108 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: is going to throw at them, because they have arguably 109 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: the best backfield in the game, certainly one of the 110 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: best two hundred and two headed tandems in professional football 111 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: right now in Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery. Aman Rossain 112 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 2: Brown is a legitimate superstar. Sam Laporta has proven me wrong. 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: He was one of the guys that I had a 114 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: big question mark about when he was coming out, if 115 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: he had the size, if he was going to be 116 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: able to be the complete player they needed him to be. 117 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: He has been that and then some. And then when 118 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: Jared Goff is completing passes at almost a seventy five 119 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: percent clip, that means things are going pretty well for 120 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: your offense. They've been efficient, they've been explosive, they've been dangerous, 121 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: and the Packers have a supreme challenge in front of them. 122 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big time challenge. The Lions have won 123 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: five in a row, a one on one start, and 124 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: really the last four games is where we've seen their 125 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: team kind of take off. They're averaging forty three points 126 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: per game over their last four games in that stretch. 127 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't have the numbers in front of me exactly, 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: but it's like Jared Goff has thrown almost as many 129 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: touchdown passes as incomplete pass yeah, or something like that 130 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: over the last four games. Statistically, he has a one 131 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five passer rating over the last four games. 132 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: That's a month of football with a one to fifty 133 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: five passer rating. His passer rating on the season is 134 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: one fifteen, which is impressive enough. You mentioned the two 135 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: headed monster in the backfield, Gibbs and Montgomery. Their carries 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: have been almost exactly split. I believe there's only one 137 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: kre different between the two of them. Gibbs is the 138 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, the speedster, the home run hitter. Montgomery is 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: the power back. But either one of these guys can 140 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: do whatever you ask of them in the backfield in 141 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, whether it's catching passes, whether it's 142 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: picking up blitzes, whether it's inside runs or outside runs. 143 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Saint Brown. He has forty one receptions 144 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: this season, which is actually more than twice as many 145 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: as anybody else on the Lions. He's clearly the go 146 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: to guy in the passing game. And then second in 147 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: receptions with twenty is Sam Laporta, the tight end you mentioned. 148 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: He has a fifty two yard touchdown. We're talking about, actually, 149 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 1: I mean, two of the really up and coming and 150 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: reaching the level of premiere tight ends in this league 151 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: are going to be on the field together in Sam 152 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Laporta and Tucker Craft. You look at their statistics, you 153 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: look at their highlights, you know what they're producing for 154 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: their respective teams, and it's pretty impressive. And both of 155 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: these guys are still really young. Bottom line is the 156 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: Lions have just weapons across the board, and I think 157 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: what I think what makes them most dangerous is that 158 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: they've just shown the ability to score in a hurry. 159 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: They you know, you can maybe even hold them down 160 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: for a couple of possessions and then all of a sudden, 161 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: within their next five or six plays, they could score 162 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: two touchdowns because because they're that explosive and they can 163 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: make things happen that quickly in. 164 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: The way they beat teams is noteworthy. I mean, you 165 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: are talking about a Tennessee Titans team that is really 166 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: struggling right now and is going through a bunch of 167 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: different things, and the Detroit Lions ran through them, like 168 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: you should that type of team go back. You know, 169 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: two weeks ago, Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys trying to get their 170 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: season right. Detroit's like, nope, we got this. They wanted 171 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: down to the wire football game, you know against the 172 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings thirty one to twenty nine. They're just so 173 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: darn consistent in everything that they do. Now there has 174 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: been adversity. Jamison Williams is suspended for this game. Still 175 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: had that issue, I believe with the performance substance, performance 176 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: enhancing variety. I believe it was two games suspension for him. 177 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,119 Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson goes down with it. You know, the devastating 178 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: leg injury. Defensively, that's been something they're going to have 179 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: to make up for here the rest of the year. 180 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: They don't have a guy that necessarily just fits into 181 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: that power pass rushing mode that they're going to have 182 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: to deal with. But as a collective, a team that 183 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: got so close to the Super Bowl last year has 184 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 2: picked up right where it left off and has really 185 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: showed that we are still on the incline and we 186 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: still are very much in contention for that Super Bowl championship. 187 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: That's a little to them for so long. 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely they are. They have. They've taken the field 189 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: through this first half of twenty twenty four look looking 190 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: like a team on a mission, knowing that that they 191 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: let it get away last season in San Francisco in 192 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: that NFC Championship game. You mentioned Hutchinson on the defensive side, 193 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: he is out for the remainder of at least the 194 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: regular season based on what we're hearing he has. He 195 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: had seven and a half sacks before he went down, 196 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: was on his way to potentially, you know, defensive player 197 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: of the year or certainly being in that discussion. Nobody 198 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: else on the Lions has more than two and a 199 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: half sacks at this point. But that being said, the 200 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: first full game without Hutchinson against the Vikings, they sacked 201 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold four times, So you can't take anything for 202 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: granted here. What really sticks out to me statistically is 203 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: that this is a defense that has ten interceptions, which 204 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: matches the Packers total ten interceptions on the season, and 205 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: it's the safety Kirby Joseph with five of them, and 206 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: then safety Slash Nickel slot corner Brian Branch with four. 207 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Those two guys have combined for nine out of the ten. 208 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: The Lions are plus ten in turnover margin this season. 209 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: The Packers are plus seven in turnover margin. So there's 210 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of when you look 211 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: at the numbers, sort of like something's got to give 212 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: in this game, right, because both these teams both have 213 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: six wins for a reason. But defensively, defensively, I think 214 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: where the Lions have been most vulnerable is against the pass. 215 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: They've had a lot of flags in the secondary, a 216 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: lot of first downs by penalty by their opponents. But 217 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: then you look at the ten interceptions and it's, you know, 218 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: so the ten interceptions they have and the way they've 219 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: taken the ball away, So it's not like you can 220 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: just say, all right, well, just let's just drop back 221 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and throw it right yard, because these guys will find 222 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: ways to make plays. 223 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: And Branch is one of those guys. Mike, This happens 224 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: every once in a while in the National Football League, 225 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: where someone is considered a top draft pick and he 226 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: falls for whatever reason, it ends up being a second rounder. 227 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: And I think so many people made such a big 228 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: deal about his safety position when it was like the 229 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, kudos to them. They're like, no, this is 230 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: a nickel cornerback that could be an explosive player in 231 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: this league and they've reaped an ultimate reward with him 232 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: falling into their lap where they did Kirby Joseph a 233 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: good third round pick from him a number of years ago. 234 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: I was telling you before we started the show, I 235 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: can't believe he's already up to twelve interceptions or whatever 236 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: it is in his career. Yeah, certainly he made a 237 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: big coming out party in twenty twenty two with his 238 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: interception off Aaron Rodgers in that finale against green Bay 239 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: to really solidify that victory for the Lions and knock 240 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: the Packers out of the playoffs, securing that winning season 241 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: finally that Detroit had been chasing at that time. And 242 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: again they've just gotten better and better. But between Hutchinson's injury, 243 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: between what's happened with Marcus Davenport, there is an issue 244 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: there as far as their edge rush is concerned. That's 245 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: one area where green Bay does need to take advantage. 246 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Whether it is Jordan Love or whether it is Malik Willis, 247 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: the dangers are different without those two guys on the field, 248 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: especially in Hutchinson's case, who had seventeen quarterback hits at 249 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: the time in which he got injured, the seven and a. 250 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: Half sacks of the prest five games or four and 251 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: a half games or whatever it was. 252 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was constantly on top of the quarterback and 253 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: for him to be gone, now that's something that they're 254 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: gonna have to deal with. But you know what, Mike, again, 255 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: another testament to the way they play. They are a 256 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: complete three phase football team. You look at last week 257 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: with Kalise Fraeman, was that, believe the NFC Special Teams 258 00:13:59,360 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: Player of the week. 259 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to bring up with what 260 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: they're doing in the return game right now too. Khalif 261 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Raymond takes a punt ninety yards for a touchdown. I 262 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: believe it was against the Titans. As you said, he's 263 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: the reigning NFC Special Teams Player of the Week, and 264 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: they had a big kickoff return as well, seventy plus yards. 265 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: And the first name escapes me, but his last name 266 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: is Dorsey. John Dorsey, Yeah, John Dorsey, good old friend, 267 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: but il Dorsey. So they have a ninety yard punt 268 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: return and a seventy yard kickoff return in the same game. 269 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean again, just other examples of the explosiveness of 270 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: the players that they have on the field and the 271 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: way they can the way they can turn a game 272 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: on its head so quickly. Because a couple different things 273 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: to look at here. When they beat the Vikings in Minneapolis, 274 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: they felt but the Lions fell behind ten to nothing 275 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: out of it eating that game, and they didn't blink, 276 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: they didn't flinch, and they ended up they ended up 277 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: needing a field goal right at the end to win. 278 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: But that was because of a fumble by David Montgomery 279 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter that the Vikings scooped and scored, 280 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, ran the other wave to surprisingly retake the lead. 281 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: But they're down ten to nothing on the road division rival, 282 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, Minnesota Vikings, and you know they you know, 283 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: they ended up outscoring them. I believe it was like 284 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: twenty eight to seven through like the second and third 285 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: quarters of that game last week against the Titans, that 286 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: game is fourteen to fourteen in in the early stages. 287 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: At some point in the first half there it's fourteen 288 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: all and the next thing you know, the Lions have 289 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: ripped off twenty eight or thirty five straight points or 290 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and the game turns into a blowout. 291 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: So these guys can These guys can change games in 292 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: a hurry, I guess, is what my point is. 293 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: And to get back as far as the special teams too, 294 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: they're just they're really solid. I think Jack Fox is 295 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: one of my favorite punters in the league. He's been 296 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: an All Pro before in this time, he's one of 297 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: the guys when you watch him, his ball placement is 298 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: just extraordinary. And then Jake Bates has gone in there 299 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: and I think as eleven for eleven on the season 300 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: after everything he did during the XFL year. Again, they're 301 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: very complete. We'll talk about in a minute here. There's 302 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: opportunities for the Packers to win this game, but the 303 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: challenges and the need to be you know, dial into 304 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: your details is so so critical to being able to 305 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: defend a team like this. 306 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was what's next on my list is Okay, 307 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: we've gone over all these things that the Lions do 308 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: well and why they are six and one and sitting 309 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: on top of the NFC North and in fact kind 310 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: of the team right now that most people are pegging 311 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: as the team to beat in the NFC in general. 312 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: So what are the keys to victory for Green Bay? 313 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: What do the Packers need to do to come out 314 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: on top in this one? 315 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: Survive the second quarter? I don't know. You dig into 316 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: this stuff a lot. You look at the stat sheet. 317 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: I did see those numbers. It's like one hundred and 318 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: two points to like twenty twenty seven, twenty seven. 319 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So what Detroit does is, I mean they start 320 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: and it's kind of almost like a fighter sort of 321 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: finding his range, and then they hammer you in the 322 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: second quarter, and you know, you look at their their 323 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: ebbs and flows, I mean it's thirty eight, one hundred 324 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: and two sixty five twenty three. Like there is sort 325 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: of this pattern as far as when they're striking. But 326 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: that is where they've won a lot of these games, 327 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: is they've taken the souls of a lot of teams 328 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: in that second quarter and going into halftime and really 329 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: making them question everything. They talk so much about the 330 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: point differential in the NFC North and in how extraordinary 331 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: that has been to this point, and the fact that 332 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: all four of these teams are actually in the plus 333 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: area if I remember correctly, and the Allions are like 334 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: plus one sixteen. I mean, they are just getting out 335 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: and dominating teams, but there are opportunities. They're strange anomalies 336 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: with this team, the fact that they're minus one sixteen 337 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: and the penalty differential, the fact that you know they've 338 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: had some moments there where teams have been able to 339 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: put points on them and they've been able to have 340 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: success against them. But when you're getting hit with waves 341 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: of offense like the Relions have done, which again with 342 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: a few exceptions, are their top ten and pretty much 343 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: everything top five in a lot, that's ultimately what pushes 344 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: the tempo of a football game. No matter what it's 345 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: about points, it's about touchdowns. And the Detroit Lions, with 346 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: how efficient Jared Goff has been playing at an MVP 347 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: caliber level to this point, it's been really hard to 348 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: knock them off their spot. The Packers have to do that, though. 349 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think for me, for me, this game 350 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: comes down to the explosive play ratio or the explosive 351 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: play equation. Both of these offenses, the Packers and the Lions, 352 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: they make big plays a lot You know, taking chunksy 353 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: yard it's twenty five yards here, thirty five yards there. 354 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: The Packers have to win that ratio in this game. 355 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't think you. I don't think you're going to 356 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: stop the Lions from being able to make explosive plays. 357 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: But the more times that you can make them grind 358 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: out a twelve or thirteen play drive in order to score, 359 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: that's just where you give the defense more opportunities to 360 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: possibly get whether it's that pass deflection or punch the 361 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: ball out, or somebody gets a really good rush and 362 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: either gets the hit on the quarterback or the really 363 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: good rush that leads to a holding penalty and then 364 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: puts them behind the sticks, and then you have a chance. 365 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: But if they're going to take thirty and forty yard 366 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: chunks of the field on a regular basis, your defense 367 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: is not going to have a chance to do that. 368 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: And conversely, offensively, the Packers, in a lot of ways, 369 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: they live and die by the explosive play. When the 370 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Packers get an explosive play, they score points on the 371 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: drive more often than not. I'd say it's probably ninety 372 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: to ninety five percent of the time. So the Packers 373 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: still have to be able to do what they do 374 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: against this defense and take chunks of the field at 375 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: the end of the game. If we're looking at the 376 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: place of twenty plus yards and the Packers are, the 377 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: Packers make more of them than the Lions than I 378 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: like Green Bay's chances to win this football. 379 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: In whatever yards they can't get against the run. I 380 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: mean defensively, the Lions, they've been really good as far 381 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: as teams and what they're rushing and their averages are. 382 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: But if you dig into that a little bit more, 383 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: it's because so many teams have had to throw from 384 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: being behind their fifth and run defense right now, but 385 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: they're twenty second in yards per rush, and if you 386 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: look at it with the passing game, yes, teams have 387 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: put up some passing yards because they've had to. If 388 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: you can establish the run and get into your offensive rhythm, 389 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: especially if it ends up being Malik Willis as your 390 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: starting quarterback in this thing, if Jordan can't go, that 391 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: is going to be absolutely critical. One of the things 392 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: that Packers have done really well Mike in all of 393 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: these appearances, maybe with the exception of the final play 394 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: there that Willis had to come in Brazil, but his 395 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: three games where he basically helped them win the game. Right, 396 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: They've been able to manage possessions at a premium. Every 397 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: single possession has had meaning for the most part. That 398 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: has to continue against Detroit. If you're going to be 399 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: able to hang in there with the punch just that 400 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: they're going to throw against you. 401 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing too, because we know this 402 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: is a Lions team that doesn't turn the ball over 403 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: much that I was actually looking at. The Packers have 404 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: gone five consecutive games without having a turnover free game. Offensively, offensively, 405 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: slash special teams. You cannot turn the ball over in 406 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: this game. You may not be able to win the 407 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: turnover battle, but you have to be able to get 408 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: out of this game at worst at zero zero in 409 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: the turnover takeaway department. Because seeing the Packers only have 410 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: the one giveaway last week on the interception in the 411 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: red zone, that was certainly a step in the right direction. 412 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: And as we've seen with Malik Willis he in all 413 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: the time that he has been playing in place of 414 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Love, he does not put the ball in harm's way. 415 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: He's done a remarkable job of protecting the football. But 416 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's love or willis it feels like 417 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: this game has to be a zero giveaway game. Yep 418 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: for green Bay. Regardless of what the defense is able 419 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: to do in the takeaway department, the Packers absolutely cannot 420 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: have a turnover. You know. 421 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: The other thing that has happened to green Bay has 422 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: to win on third downs because the Detroit Lions are 423 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: the best in ball right now defensively on third downs. Again, 424 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: that goes with a lot of teams to throw against him. 425 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: But you what is the they're allowing is it? Is 426 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: it thirty percent or just under right right at right 427 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: at thirty percent? Thirty percent conversions on a third down 428 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: against that defense, It's a It's a tough one to 429 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: move the chains. 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Maybe I should get 437 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: to Crispy to read the sponsor business one of our shows. 438 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: We should ever do the draft? 439 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: Will imitate me? So well? 440 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, ever do the draft one? Like literally remember that 441 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: when Matt Arvin had micd up coon that one time 442 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: and he came in and did on scripture with us 443 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: that one time. Yeah, yeah, she have Kristen just come 444 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: in with yeah. 445 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: Just ever come in. She can do the she can 446 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: do the ad reads. It's week nine, yeah in the NFL. 447 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: Wes looking around at the other games that are going on. 448 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: I mean there is there is no game on the 449 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: slate in the NFL in Week nine that is bigger 450 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: than Packers and Lions at lambeau Field. But that being said, 451 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: there are other very interesting ones that impact the NFC 452 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: in general as well as the NFC North. I'm very 453 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: curious Chicago goes on the road to Arizona. I am 454 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: very curious how the Bears respond to losing a game 455 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: on a Hail Mary, because that kind of loss, and 456 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: especially with everything with you know, the one player Tyreek 457 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Stevenson whose kind of head was not in the game 458 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: on the final play and all that, that's the kind 459 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: of thing that can that can really spiral things the 460 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: wrong way for a team. So can the Bears respond 461 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: to that in the appropriate way. Going out to Arizona 462 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: and playing against a Cardinals team that Kyler Murray in 463 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: that offense, they're getting some things going out. 464 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: They're so scrappy and Marvin Harrison Junior. We talked about 465 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: it when the Packers played on I mean, it's just 466 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: such a premium talent and they've been I keep saying it. 467 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: I mentioned in last week's show. Seeing if you don't 468 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: corral Murray what he can do offensively is something to behold. 469 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: There's a lot of good scrambling quarterbacks, there's a lot 470 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: of good elusive quarterbacks. He has it all and he 471 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: can really will you to a victory. Chicago great test 472 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: for them defensively, but I'm with you, seeing what their 473 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: response to that game is is going to be critical. 474 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: I mean, really realistically, even though the Packers and the 475 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: Lions are the ones that are playing in the NFC 476 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: North and have these big implications both that game. Indianapolis 477 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: Colts traveling to the US Bank to face the Vikings 478 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: is also very huge too. Joe Flacco is now the 479 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: starting quarterback there. 480 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: That was the other one I was going to bring up. 481 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: And it's interesting how that evolved because a couple of 482 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago that game Indianapolis at Minnesota was flexed into 483 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: the Sunday night time slot. It was just going to 484 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: be a garden variety afternoon game on Sunday. Since that 485 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: game was flexed into the Sunday night slot, the Vikings 486 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: had lost back to back games. They went from five 487 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: to o to five and two, and Indianapolis now has 488 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: benched young quarterback Anthony Richardson for Joe Flacco. Flacco is 489 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: stepping in as the starter. It sounds like for the 490 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: long haul here, at least in terms of twenty twenty four, 491 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: probably for the rest of the season that Flacco is 492 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: going to be is going to be Indies guys. So 493 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: now all of that going on and that that game 494 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: is in is in prime time. 495 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: A couple other original Sunday night game do you remember? 496 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: I believe it was Philadelphia against Jacksonville. Oh okay, And yeah, 497 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: they with where the where things were going with the Jaguars, 498 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: the the league and the networks decided they wanted the 499 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: Vikings instead. So a couple other games though that are 500 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: some really interesting implications elsewhere in the NFC. Dallas at 501 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: three and four is at Atlanta. Atlanta is five and 502 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: three and sitting on top of the NFC South. Right now, 503 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: it kind of feels like we say we say this, 504 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, at least once every two weeks that the 505 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys find themselves in like a must win type of 506 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: game with what's going on with the Commanders and the 507 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Eagles in the NFC East. If the Cowboys dropped to 508 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: three and five, if they lose this game and dropped 509 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: to three and five, they're really really playing uphill the 510 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: second half of the season. They're in big trouble. 511 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can seem bras you can't ever take 512 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: anything for granted year to year, and you can't always 513 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: have the masth of Okay, well this team played this 514 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: way one year, they're going to run through everybody the next. 515 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Doesn't work like that. Cowboys have had a couple of injuries. 516 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: I think Deron Bland is back this week or at 517 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: least has had his window activated for return, So potentially 518 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: maybe that gives you a left here, But they just 519 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: they are a team searching for something right now. Also, 520 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: this has been another lesson in why I wrote the 521 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: story on Chris Brooks. This week, we've talked about Josh 522 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: Jacobs investing into your backfield and understanding the value of 523 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: having your or your franchise back, whether it's a young guy, 524 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: whether it's not. The Cowboys are a great example of 525 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: how critical that is. They moved on from Zeke, they 526 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: went with Tony Pollard for a year, they let Pollard go, 527 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: and then they brought Zeke back. After kind of a 528 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: lackluster year in New England. Their running game has been 529 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: in shambles this year too. Dak has not had that 530 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: compliment that I think he needs in an offense to 531 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: really have those explosive plays present themselves. In the Atlanta Falcons, 532 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: as much as we've talked about the Vikings and all 533 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 2: the free agent signings they've made, the Falcons really have 534 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: kind of pushed all in in terms of bringing in 535 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: all these types of guys. I think Justin Simmons had 536 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: come in late, like they had all these different players 537 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: that they had signed, veterans that have been in the 538 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: league seven eight years, and it took some time to 539 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: take and Kirk Cousins has been very up and down 540 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: this season. Yeah, but when they're on they're on and this, 541 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: by no means is an easy one for the Dallas 542 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys trying to go into Mercedes Benz and get a victory. 543 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. The Falcons won a big one in their 544 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: division last week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which is why. 545 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: And that was on the road. Actually, the Buccaneers were 546 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: wearing the old cream Sickle uniforms and the Falcons knocked 547 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: them off down there in Tampa. So that's why the 548 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: Falcons are sitting on top of that division. And now 549 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: they're back home against the Cowboys. Out in the NFC West, 550 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, a team that is maybe starting 551 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: to find itself here. They're getting the receivers back. We 552 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: talked about that and the impact that had and beating 553 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings last Thursday night. The Rams are three 554 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: and four. They are at Seattle going up against a 555 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Seahawks team that is four and four. Four and four 556 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: is the top of the NFC West right now, multiple 557 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: teams with that record and Seattle trying to figure things 558 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: out after being at home last week against Buffalo. Buffalo 559 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: flies all the way across the country and walks into 560 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: Seattle's normally difficult stadium, and just absolutely took it to 561 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and that game was it was almost like 562 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: it was never even a contest. Buffalo completely dominated. 563 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: And now they got to deal with Cup and they 564 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: got to deal with Nikua Yea and that changes everything. 565 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: We saw it in that game against the Vikings. Rams 566 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: are totally different with those two dudes on the field. 567 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: Everything improves when they're out there. Seattle's an other team 568 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: has been up and down. You know, DK Metcalf potentially 569 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: getting healthier. But I mean, the fact is is that 570 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: when you're looking at a division right now where so 571 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: many and again Arizona Cardinals at four and four is 572 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: sitting at top right now for whatever reason, if the 573 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: season ended after eight weeks, they would be the team 574 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: in the playoffs right now. Out of this whole equation, Yeah, 575 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: every win in that division is critical, So how that plays, 576 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 2: it'll be interesting. In addition to the fact that for 577 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: the sixth time in nine weeks, the New York Jets 578 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: are in primetime tonight. 579 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: Is that what is that? 580 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: What is six times? Six times in nine. 581 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Weeks and they are one of the worst teams in 582 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: football right now? 583 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I will say this about the networks they 584 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: completely loaded up on Aaron Rodgers in the first two 585 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: months of the season, like they were like, all right, 586 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: all our chips are in on that, but. 587 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: Here we are all and gambling is always illegal at Bushwood. 588 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: But did I hear correctly that Vegas actually has the 589 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: Jets favored over the Texans tonight? It's like it's like 590 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: by one point or something like that. 591 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: They are at home. But it's weird. 592 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: It's like Jets minus one was like the line or something. 593 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: But hey, again, I don't want to get into all 594 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: that stuff. But the fact that it was Packers last 595 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: week minus three and a half and then they won 596 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: thirty to twenty seven on that game winning field goal 597 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: bro wild. But yeah, I mean, Jets are still trying 598 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: to find something. And listen to listen to Rogers press 599 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: conferences this week. I watch both the postgame one and 600 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: I watched his one on Monday. They are they are, 601 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: They're they're feeling it right now. 602 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: They're searching. 603 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: They're searching. 604 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: They're searching, is what is what they're doing out? 605 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: You know what? I'm searching for the twenty twenty five 606 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: NFL Draft. 607 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: That's right, because the home of the twenty twenty five 608 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: NFL Draft is right here in Green Bay. Don't miss 609 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: any draft action coming April twenty four through April twenty 610 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: six of twenty twenty five. 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