1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: He's hypersensitive, and you know his mom and dad are artists. 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. But what a very wise therapist told me. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: He said, don't pay attention to analyzing. Pay attention to parenting. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Pay attention to how you react to the way he's behaving. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: In all the episodes of Katie's Crib, we have never 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: heard that. Can you repeat it? It's brilliant. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Pay attention to being a parent. Do not psychoanalyze your child. 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: Don't say, oh my god, he has what my sister has, 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: or oh he has an addictive behavior, Oh my god, 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: he's manic depressive. Don't give him a goddamn name. Do 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: not give him a name, don't give him a title. 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: Just be a parent. And I thought, oh my god, 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: that is so great. Sorry, I said, god. 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Care, Oh I fucking love it. I don't care. Hello everybody, 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: and welcome back to Katie's Crib. Today's guest is on 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the scariest parenting show I've ever seen. I can't wait 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: to talk to her about it. She's awesome. You know 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: her from everywhere, because she's been on one hundred and 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: fifty different theater, film and television projects. But she has 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: such an interesting mom journey and I had to have 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: her on. She had a son later in life. She 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: plays mom on Euphoria People. Oh my gosh, that show 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: is incredible and also scares me to death about having teenagers, 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: and I want to talk to her all about it. 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: I want to talk to her about her concert experiences 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: with her son, all of her upcoming projects. Her name 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: is Alana Ubach. She is an actress and a singer, 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: and she plays on Euphoria sus Howard, which is Cassie 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: and Lexi's mom, And like I said, she's been on 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: a million other things. Her credits include, but are not 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: limited too, being a Koogie flight attendant in season two 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: of HBO Max's mystery thriller comedy The flight Attendant, the 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: voice of Mama Emmelda and Coco, which is the family's matriarch. 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: She's the naive boy, crazy office tempany, indie cult classic Clockwatchers, 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: and of course, who could forget the iconic Ditsi ucla 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: cheerleader in the mainstream classic Legally Blonde. Alana is married 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: to record producer Tom Russo. They have one son, Thomas 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Rudolfo Russo, the third Alana, welcome the Katie's great Hi, Hi, Alana, 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: what's going on? It's so nice to meet you. 42 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. I've been doing so much research 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: in watching you, just on interviews talking about motherhood. I've 45 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: been a fan of you and you're acting for a 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: long time. 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much. 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I like that rock thing behind you. 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Oh isn't this nice? This is what I turn on. 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: My son gets in trouble and we really need to talk. 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, do you want to talk by the fountain? 52 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: That's so great. See these are the tips and tricks 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: that all the listeners want to hear. That just it's 54 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: for you and for him. 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does help. I'll explain that whole well. 56 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: I decided to get that that whole sitch over there 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: behind me. 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, Alana, we have never met. I 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: am such a huge fan. 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: I am a fan Katie. You are so cute. 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, may you are. Look at you. I 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: can't even tell me like, I think it's so fascinating 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: your story what I've heard. I want to talk to 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: you about acupuncture, how it opened your fertility because you 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: had frozen eggs. Maybe what's the story there? 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So I was on Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce, Ye, 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: and he and I got married right before I booked that, 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: And now we're married and everything's wonderful in Disneyland, and 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I booked this gig that shoots 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: up in Vancouver. The great thing about Vancouver is that 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: it's a two hour plane ride to and from lax right, 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: So it wasn't that big of a deal. But I 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: was working really crazy hours and I thought, oh my gosh, 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: if this show is a success, we're never going to 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: be able to have kids. I'm thirty eight already. By 76 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: the time we got married, I was working. And then 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: he got a gig in Miami, and he was working 78 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: with Manah for months and they were doing an album. 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: So he and I were never together, and I thought, gosh, 80 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: what should we do. I was like, maybe we should 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: freeze embryos. Let's do that, and then maybe we do 82 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: an implantation when the show's over or something like that, 83 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: not thinking that it would go into like second or third, 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: or fourth or fifth or sixth season. 85 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Wow. 86 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: So we go to USC Fertility, We meet the big 87 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: Cheese there, we freeze embryos. Everything's wonderful. I go to 88 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: work and i'm up there when Trump wins and he's 89 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: in office and one of my one of my co stars, 90 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: she calls me and says, well, the world's ending. Oh 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: my god, I have some wild turkey and some camel cigarettes. 92 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm like, I'll be right over. 93 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds about right. 94 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: So we're sitting there smoking camel cigarettes and drinking wild 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: turkey and she looks at me and says, Alana, did 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: you get a boob job? What are you talking about? 97 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: I didn't get Oh my god. I was like, we 98 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: need to get a pregnancy test. 99 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god. A lot of it's hilarious. So you 100 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: didn't even realize. Holy shit, my boobs are really big. 101 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: They're tender. And I think I skipped my period or something. 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Okay, like maybe I was a week late. And my 103 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: periods have always been all over the place, caddy walks, 104 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: and especially because I was off the pill. I've been 105 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: on the pill since I was like twenty years old. 106 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: So I'm finally off the pill at thirty seven, thirty 107 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: eight my body was like, what are you doing? I 108 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: noticed my boobs are out to hear. But when you're working, 109 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 2: you get into work mode. You're making light bulbs every day. 110 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: Your yourself, your. 111 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Care and self awareness is oh please, yeah, what the's 112 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: going on. 113 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: It's just a lot of the little things that you 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: take for granted when we're not working, when we're on 115 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: a hiatus or something, that are never around when you are. 116 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: I was in another country. How was I going to 117 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 2: see a doctor without paying this exorbitant amount of money 118 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: because I wasn't Canadian. There goes so much for socialized medicine, right, 119 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: So I go to the London drugs and I take 120 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: a pregnancy test and sure enough I am pregnant. And 121 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, I killed you. 122 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm the smoking and the wild turkey, 123 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, oh the little zyga wah. 124 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm being as honest as but full transparent. 125 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: I love it, me too, me too. It's helpful to people. 126 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: It's also helpful to women listening who are pregnant, who 127 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: have young ones who have a little bit older ones 128 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: like those are our listeners and those are our katies, 129 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: crim fans and Honestly, I can't tell you how many 130 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: times I've had this conversation with so many women who 131 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: we're drinking, we're taking like, might have taken an ambient 132 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: to go to sleep, may have taken xanax, like I mean, 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: crazy shit before they found out they were pregnant. I 134 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: also know moms who on their third or fourth baby 135 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: were like pregnant, and they were like, let's just pretend 136 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: I didn't take the pregnancy test for like three or 137 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: four days, and I'm just going to have a few 138 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: more nights of fun. I'm not even kidding. That is real. 139 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: So you got pregnant without using the embryos or any 140 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: of that stuff. 141 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: No, it's I can even tell you. My husband and 142 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: I had sex on October twenty seventh. We went to 143 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: a party. I was there for a couple of days 144 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: to visit. We had sex, and then I leave the 145 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: next day back to Vancouver, not thinking anything because we 146 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: were having unprotected sex constantly and I was not getting pregnant. 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: At one point I did get pregnant, and then the 148 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: hCG levels were not high, so I knew, oh, we're 149 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: gonna I'm probably gonna lose this one. It was very 150 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: early on obviously. 151 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Was that just like a heavy period loss or did 152 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: you have to have a DNC or anything like that. 153 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: Nothing like that. No, what happens is it's when women 154 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: are like, oh I had a miscarriage in this that, 155 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: and it's early on. Look, your body is a machine, 156 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: and if you've never been pregnant before, it takes a 157 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: while to tell the brain of the body. Listen, this 158 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: is what we're trying to do here. Do you understand? Yeah, 159 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: can you get the construction workers down there to get 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: the apartment ready because we're bringing in another being in 161 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: here and we've got to help it grow. Oh my god, 162 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: Oh I get it. You want to be pregnant? 163 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: Yes? Same? Oh see, Okay, A lot of people I 164 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: know actually do, and myself included how to miscarriage first 165 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, second time is when it stuck, Like. 166 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 2: That's the dress rehearsal. Don't think of it as a miscarriage. 167 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: Think of it as the dress rehearsal before the real 168 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: before it's showtime. And So I had a wonderful fertility doctor. 169 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: So I called him and I was just like, look, 170 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: this isn't working. Can we just do it in semination? 171 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: See if this works and it stuck. It woke my 172 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: body up and at least I knew I could get pregnant. Oh, 173 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: which was there. 174 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: So that was the first time. That was the first time. 175 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: That was the first time. And then I started seeing 176 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: this acupuncturist. 177 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is great. So the first time was like 178 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: a Turkey based situation. And then the dress rehearsal, and 179 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: then this time that the acupuncture you really feel like 180 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: helped this your body know what to do to keep 181 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: the pregnancy. 182 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: She was so cool. I called her Carrie Tannenbaum, and 183 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: I said, look, the hCG levels aren't high for this 184 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: first pregnancy, so we know where this is headed. She 185 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: was like, wonderful, come over, I'll give you some teas well. 186 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: We'll make this happen very quickly. She gave me acupuncture 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: and gave me some teas and full disclosure for pre 188 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: cord to run. But it was just a discharge, just discharge. 189 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: You know, you didn't feel anything or anything. 190 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: Oh, we talk about all sorts of juices here. 191 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, someone sneezed in my underwear. 192 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Nice and yes, sure, yes, and. 193 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: It was my body just blew its nose and that 194 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: was it. I was like, okay, done, didn't feel a thing. 195 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. Do not worry. 196 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: How early were you do you know? 197 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, maybe like weeks. And it's funny because I 198 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: instinctually knew that it wasn't going to work. I heard 199 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: a girlfriends of mine telling me, oh my gosh, you 200 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: feel it. Within weeks days, your boobs start to get 201 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: soreed for some people, and I thought, huh, I feel 202 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: exactly the same. What's going on here? 203 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I had that too my first pregnancy. 204 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: I had no symptoms, and again and it didn't stick. 205 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Mine was later on. I had to have a DNC 206 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: at eleven and a half weeks. 207 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: Damn it. 208 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I never felt sick or like all 209 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: this stuff. And as soon as my pregnancy with my son, 210 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: who's five, you were right. Immediately my boobs were killing me. 211 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: I had the worst acid reflux, like up into my throat, 212 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: like weird that I never had before I had. I 213 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: felt when my daughter, I was sick as shit, like quick, 214 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: like nauseous. And again you're so upset, but you're also like, 215 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: oh shit, I think this is working. I have all 216 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: the symptoms exactly. 217 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: That's it. It's working. 218 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: So my question for you is how is motherhood going. 219 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: How old is your son currently? 220 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: He is five? He is the age of your baby. 221 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: We should baby have a little play. 222 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: Date, play day. What are the things that you're really 223 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: good at in parenthood that have surprised you? 224 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: First of all, the pregnancy was a breeze. I worked out, 225 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: I did all the right things. As soon as I 226 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: saw that blinking light, I thought, Okay, it's go time 227 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: and this is really going to happen because my boobs 228 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: weren't big the first time around and now they are alrighty. 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: First thing we're gonna do, check my hCG level. So 230 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: I got a hold of the set doctor and he 231 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: was such a sweetheart. He was like, I'll take you 232 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: to this one clinic tomorrow, and sure enough, the hCG 233 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: levels were really great, and I thought, okay, this is wonderful. 234 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell anyone on set until it sticks. 235 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: Let's wait a month and a half or something. And 236 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: the first person I called was like Robbie McNeil, the producer, 237 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: and he was so excited and he was crying. Everyone 238 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: knew how badly I wanted this to happen. So he 239 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: was sort of a miracle baby Thomasito, and everything was 240 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: a breeze. My husband was the only one who knew 241 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: what the actual sex was. 242 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: You didn't want to find out. 243 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: I didn't want to know, but I knew it was 244 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: a boy. 245 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: The way I was growing, I was all belly, and 246 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: it was like, Oh, this is definitely a little boy, 247 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: and I wanted a little boy so badly. 248 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: My thoughts were, I'm so weird if I have a 249 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: little girl, she's gonna be so embarrassed of me. 250 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: No, that's so funny. Were you having dream premonitions like 251 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: this is a boy or you just felt the boy 252 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: energy or. 253 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: No, it was just the way I was growing. At first, 254 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: I thought, what if I do have a girl, Oh 255 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: my gosh, And I started crying and thinking to myself, 256 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, the teenage years. 257 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Pupils, Oh god, which I can't wait to talk to 258 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: you about. 259 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: That's it. 260 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: You're on the most triggering teenage parental show I have 261 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: ever watched in my entire feeling. And what's crazy is you, 262 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: as as sus Howard on the show, you are your 263 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: mom to two teenage girls, and that is. 264 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: It. 265 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm fucking terrified. On Euphoria, does it ever scare you 266 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: that you have had that you now have a child, 267 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: and you will be facing the teenagers, and we're going 268 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: to be doing them with technology that probably hasn't even 269 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: been invented yet. By the time our sons get to teens, 270 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be a whole other fucking bag. 271 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a whole other fucking get yes. And 272 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: in interviews for Euphoria, they asked me those questions, and 273 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: I just wanted to sound smart by saying, well, these 274 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: kids have information at their pockets at any given time, 275 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: and it's hard to compete with that. But I'm also 276 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: just probably saying things that I think everyone wants to hear, right, 277 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: because it was a huge success overnight, and that train 278 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: just took off and we didn't know what was going on. 279 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: So it's almost like being in a plane crash together 280 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: where everyone really bonds after work. Like the kids are inseparable. 281 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: Those actors on those show, on that show are inseparable, 282 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: and I think it's because they all became huge, like 283 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: violently famous overnight. I'm convinced it's scared the shit out 284 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: of them, all of them, and Sidney Sweeney and Maud. 285 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: They're they're like sisters in real life. They're really close. 286 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: I love hearing that. I love that they all just 287 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: hung on for dear life to each other. 288 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: We love to each other because it's scary. It really 289 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: is scary to have that much, to know how famous 290 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: you've become overnight because of all of the social media 291 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: et cetera. So these kids are they really do have 292 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: their shit together. They're so responsible. 293 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm terrified to get to the teenagers. I mean, I 294 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: think I'm like you said, I'm less terrified. I have 295 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: an older boy to younger girl. I'm less terrified for 296 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: the boy, which is I just feel like, oh, the 297 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: years are going to come where you just lock yourself 298 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: in your room and you're playing video games and jerking 299 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: off all day. That's what's gonna happen for you, where 300 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: as my daughter is going to be having hormonal getting 301 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: your period melt downs. 302 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can get psychologically violent women. Yes, I have 303 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: an older sister. She's eleven years older, and she drove 304 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: my parents crazy, and if they had the Internet existed, 305 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: she probably wouldn't have been able to get a job 306 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: because of whatever she posted or whatever what My husband 307 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: and I are really focusing on with a five year 308 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: old is number one. Oh my gosh, he didn't die. 309 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: To take care of something that small when it's born 310 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: is so stressful. It is the most horrific thing ever. 311 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: Motherhood for me with a newborn was so stressful and scary. 312 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: You're the CEO of a company that you know, you've 313 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: heard a lot about, but you're just thrown into something. 314 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: So I was just, wow, I haven't dropped him for 315 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: the day. This ist rate. Things are going all right. 316 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: So now that he's older, my husband is so depressing 317 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: him get older, He's like, oh my god, he's not 318 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 2: a baby anymore. I'm like, thank god, he's not a 319 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: baby anymore. He's self sufficient. 320 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Now he can tell you when something hurts. Are like 321 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: exactly I thought the new born phase is a special 322 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: brand of hell. 323 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: Oh. 324 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: I thought the first three months was the hardest. Some 325 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: women I know, who I would have never thought would 326 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: be like this are so happy in those first months. 327 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: They're so overwhelmed with joy. They're like brought to their 328 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: knees with joy and just being in the bubble and 329 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: being home and being really like nesty. 330 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: For a day or two. 331 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: But I never even had that but he kicks in. Man, 332 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: I was out of my mind for that first year 333 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: of fear, Like I'm just like scared, every first hold, 334 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: every first this diaper rash, the first temperature, all of it. 335 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: Did you ever see blood in the stools? Did you 336 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: ever see blood? 337 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: I did have blood in the stool with my daughter, 338 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: which was fucking terrifying. But like when you look back, 339 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: you're like, I we made it like it was all okay. 340 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: It was all okay. But I'm with you. I will 341 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: take my five year old son like any day because 342 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: we have conversations and he communicates with me, and I'm 343 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: not scared he's going to fucking throw himself off a 344 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: ledge at every turn. 345 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: It's been tough though lately. His teacher went up to 346 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: me the other day. He approached me and he said, 347 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: is anything going on at home? And I said why? 348 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: What were you asking? And he said, because he's been 349 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: very defiant and his head is in the clouds. I 350 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: just don't know what's going on there. And I thought, ah, 351 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: I said, his best friend moved to New York and 352 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: his best friend that they were just inseparable when they 353 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: met at school, had moved away two weeks ago. His 354 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: mom and dad got jobs in New York, and so 355 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: little William had to leave. And so I said to 356 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: the teacher, I said, you know he's reading this is 357 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: a loss for him. This is a major loss. And 358 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 2: we were reading this book the other day. We were 359 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: trying to spell out the word national, and I said, 360 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: can you spell that word out? And he said, oh, 361 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: it's William. The name of his friend is Buddy. And 362 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: I see him playing tag with his imaginary William downstairs, 363 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: and I, oh. 364 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: I just can you believe we opted into this? Like 365 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: you tell me these stories that I'm like, this is 366 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: not going to be easy, Like this is heartbreak. 367 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: And he's got tantrums. It's tough, man. And my husband's 368 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: mom is bipolar, my father was bipolar, and so you 369 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: start to unfortunately, it's just you can't help it. You're 370 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: trying to look for signs. I highly doubt the kid 371 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: is bipolar. I think he's a very hyper sensitive human. 372 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: He's hypersensitive, and you know his mom and dad are artists. 373 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: It's going to happen. But what a very wise therapist 374 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 2: told me, he said, don't pay attention to analyzing, pay 375 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: attention to parenting, pay attention to how you react to 376 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: the way he's behaving. 377 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: In all the episodes of Katie's Crib, we have never 378 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: heard that. Can you repeat it? It's brilliant. 379 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: Pay attention to being a parent. Do not psychoanalyze your child. 380 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: Don't say, oh my god, he has what my sister has, 381 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: or oh he has an addictive behavior, or oh my god, 382 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: he's manic depressive. Don't give him a goddamn name. Do 383 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: not give him a name, don't give him a title. 384 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: Just be a parent. And I thought, oh my god, 385 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: that is so great. 386 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Sorry, I said, god damn, oh, I fucking love it. 387 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't care. So is this what the fountain behind you? 388 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: Is the fountain behind you helping with tantrums? What is 389 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: this calm setup you have behind you? 390 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: The other day, I kids you not. He's in his room. 391 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: I ordered all these little Easter decorations get in his 392 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: room and one is like this little ceramic bunny, and 393 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 2: he was playing this video game. And I looked at 394 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: and he was getting really frustrated that he wasn't going 395 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: off to another level. I said, buddy, I need I 396 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: think you need to take a break. He's like, I'm 397 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: not going to take a break. I take the video 398 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: game out of his hand. He goes ballistic, grabs the 399 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: bunny that I bought for him, throws it across the room. 400 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: It shatters, and I'm like, I'm going to give you 401 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: a break. I'm going to give me a break, all right. 402 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: And I leave the other room and he's leaving him 403 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: to self soothe. He self soothes. Everything is fine. I 404 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: hear him laughing and playing and everything is Disneyland. He 405 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: finally comes. He's standing at the doorway of my office 406 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: and I turn around and I say, are you ready 407 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: to talk? And he said yeah. I said, okay, let's 408 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: go to the fountain. So I go to this little 409 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: there's this beanbat here. 410 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I am obsessed with this whole situation. 411 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: I was desperate. I didn't know what to do. It's perfect, 412 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: you know, as actors at least, I'm like, Okay, I'm 413 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: in a scene and I was playing a really good mom. 414 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: This is what I would do. 415 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with you. 416 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: But that works, It's great. You can't. 417 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing, sweetheart. I don't know 418 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. 419 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: None of us do, None of us do we sit. 420 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: Down, and I say, when you do that, when you 421 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 2: feel that way, it's fine, it's normal, it's healthy. You 422 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: can scream and yell all you want. What happened was 423 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: I gave him a pillow. When he was screaming and yelling. 424 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: I said, scream into this pillow, punch this pillow, and 425 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: he said, I don't want to punch the pillow. And 426 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: then so I said, when you have that big feeling, 427 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: when you have these big feelings, and when you're angry, 428 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: and when you want to throw things, I said, it's 429 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: fine to have those feelings, but Thomas, when you throw things, 430 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: when you get ballistic, it pushes me away. And I 431 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: want to be there when you're in pain, and you're 432 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: only telling me to get away from you, and it 433 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: makes me not want to be there for you. And 434 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: so when you have those big feelings, I want to 435 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: be there. And when you're throwing things, I want to 436 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: leave you. And I said, and if you do things 437 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: like that in front of your friends, I said, you're 438 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: not going to have any friends if you keep reacting 439 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: that way. So I grabbed that bunny and it is 440 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: on our kitchen counter in pieces, and he looks at 441 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: that all the time. I did hug him and kiss 442 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: him while we were on the bean back and finally 443 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: asked him. I said, do you miss William? He said yeah. 444 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: I just rocked him and he fell asleep in my 445 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: arms and everything was fine, but I still got I 446 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: grabbed that bunny when I was picking everything up, and 447 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm going to put this 448 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: out just to remind him that he did that and 449 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: we can't fix that or put it together. And isn't 450 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: that sad? Isn't that unfortunate. I'm trying not to shame him, 451 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: But you also have to remind them that's not right. 452 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: You can't grab things and destroy everything around people and 453 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: get and go crazy, because no, it's not fun to 454 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: be around, and people are going to be afraid of you. 455 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: You know, It's one thing when you see two year 456 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: olds or three year olds throwing shit around a room 457 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: and losing their shit. Five they're really starting to understand 458 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: big feelings and when it is appropriate, when is it inappropriate, 459 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: and what is disproportionate to the event. Yeah, I love 460 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 1: this idea and I'm stealing it. I need like a 461 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: peace area in my house. I don't really have one. 462 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: I need like a bean bag fountain moment, that tableau 463 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: needs to happen. 464 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: We've been having him watch a lot of mister Rogers love. 465 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: He's so calm and slow with whatever he's saying, so 466 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: that it really does sink in. I'm a bullet, I'm 467 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: so fast and I've always been that way, and to 468 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: slow down and really have to talk to this little 469 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: this little animal that's basically a savage unless you show 470 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: them the way feral. 471 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: They're so fairal, they're so fair, But unless what you're saying, 472 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: what you're talking about is being regulated. 473 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: Regulated, regulate your emotions. 474 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't have a teachable moment or a conversation 475 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: or anything when you or they are disregulated. Everyone needs 476 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: to be in the mister Rogers vibe in order for 477 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: there to be anything teachable, which is what I think 478 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: that's so great about the Fountain bean Bag. It's like 479 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: you're both coming together from a regulated place. Yes, to 480 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: talk about what happened, to move on, to repair a rupture. 481 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: Wait for them to calm down, Yeah, and leave that, 482 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: leave the room, Leave the. 483 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: Room, the room. What is something that you're really good 484 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: at in parenthood and what is something you want to 485 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: work on to do differently. 486 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: Man admitting I don't know what I'm good at. I 487 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: just don't know. I don't know what I'm good at 488 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: in motherhood, I really don't. 489 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: Well, you've done about eight thousand parenting experts advice just 490 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: now in this fountain being bad situation. 491 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh go and girl, I guess everything that you've learned 492 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: in your work and in relationships and friendships with your 493 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: mom and dad. My mom passed away a couple of 494 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: years ago, and she just adored my son. She adored him. 495 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so happy. That's right. They got to me, 496 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: and they got to a few years together. 497 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: When someone you've lost is very close to you, you 498 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 2: begin to act like them. I've become my mom in 499 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: many ways. And my mom was an incredible mother. Oh 500 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: sometimes when she was incredible, she was epic. First of all, 501 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: she was an amazing human, just self taught and worked 502 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: at Lakhma. And she was sophisticated and interesting in a 503 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: snob and opinionated. 504 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Oh I love it, mental hellie. 505 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: She always said, don't ever do as I did, do 506 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: as I say. And I love that. My mom was 507 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: one person who would finally give into affection. But she 508 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: was tough, and so the one thing that I have 509 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: been mirroring as far as my mom's concerned, is she 510 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: took me to the opening of an envelope. She got 511 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: tickets for everything. Oh I love this hokey circus in town, 512 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: or something at the almondsen or something at the Dorothy Chandler. 513 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: We had tickets, whether they were in the cheap seats 514 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: or it was the ballet. Alvin Ailey dance troup said 515 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: they're doing some there's a performance artist in downtown Los Angeles. 516 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: Holy love this. 517 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: She took us to everything, and so of course I 518 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: became an actor. I was watching all that stuff on 519 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 2: stage and I looked at my mom. I was like, Mom, 520 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: do they go Goka when I was a little girl. 521 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: She was like, of course, miha, of course they go Gota. 522 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: They don't just put them in little boxes and stick 523 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: them on a shelf. These are real people. 524 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Do you plan to take your kid to a million things? 525 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'd take him to everything. I take 526 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: him to everything. Everything. There's a I took him to 527 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: the Secret Garden. We'll always buy the cheap seats because 528 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: your kid is gonna talk the whole time during the show. 529 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: Did you go to the Lion King and pantagis. 530 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 2: No, but he did perform the Lion King and then 531 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: we saw the line right down we were lion king 532 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: out got it? 533 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a lion king in right now? So hard 534 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like so waiting for it to end. It's 535 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: so annoying. So how did you feel about being what 536 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: they call a geriatric pregnancy? I was as well. Some 537 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: women I know who are pregnant at forty one to 538 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: forty two are absolutely terrified. Somea doesn't trigger them at all. 539 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: How did you feel about being what doctors consider an 540 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: older pregnant get. 541 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: Yourself a very cool, very high functioning obg yn. He 542 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: was in his like late sixties, early seventies. He was 543 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: about to retire, and he was such an eye roller. 544 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: I loved him. I remember having diarrhea at one point 545 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: while I was pregnant, which was odd. I had a 546 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: check up and I said, my god, I have diarrhea. 547 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: Does that mean? He was like, oh does that mean 548 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: to baby? He yeah, I rea, No, You're fine. Get 549 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: out of Oh my god, these women wasting my time 550 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: all round. 551 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: I am deceased. I love it. 552 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: He was great and so I said, what are your 553 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: thoughts on me just having sort of a planned cesarean. 554 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: He was like, are you kidding me? You're healthy as 555 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: a horse. You're gonna have this baby vaginally. Come have 556 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: a high water. You're having this kid vagually. I was like, 557 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: oh my god, Okay. 558 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: How was that? How was that? 559 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: I was induced? I was drinking coffee. I was very tired, 560 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: and I was drinking a lot of coffee. Unfortunately, so 561 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of amniotic fluid on one of 562 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: my checkups, and they said we gotta go get them. 563 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: They said, if you don't now, go home and pound 564 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: water as much as possible. But if there isn't enough water, 565 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: your baby can step on the umbilical cord and suffocate. 566 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, we're gonna go get. 567 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: Them, Get us to the hospital, get us. 568 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they induced. That's really wild when the 569 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: whole breaking the water bag with that giant so it's 570 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: like a knitting needle. Yeah, exactly. I was the weirdest 571 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: thing ever. That was just so strange. But then it 572 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: was fine. They gave me the epidural as soon as 573 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: that pregnancy. Labor was really kicking in and all of 574 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: the pressure on my back for my sister and my 575 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: husband just wasn't working anymore. I was like, let's grab 576 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: that epidural, take the drugs. You guys, don't be a martyr. 577 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: Come on, couldn't agree with you more. I loved my epidurals. 578 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: I was like, cool, felt it. It's feeling like it 579 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: sucks now, I'm not into it. Let's take this shit away, 580 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: Like why am I doing this? 581 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: Of course? 582 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: And what I love you said previously urged other women 583 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: to get an epidural because quote, they'll brag about not 584 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: having used drugs for about four years, and after that 585 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: the story gets old. It's true. Once you have a 586 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: five year old where we are, no one talks about 587 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the labor anymore. We've moved on to whatever we're facing 588 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: and looking down the barrel at now, so it's really 589 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: not even worthy. 590 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Look, it is a beautiful thing. If you can withstand 591 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: that kind of pain, you are a warrior. I thought 592 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: to myself. I was like, I know why men go 593 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: to war. They will never know what it is like 594 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: to endure this kind of pain. I imagined, this is 595 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: what getting shot in the hand feels like. And you're 596 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: at that bar waiting for the paramedics to arrive. That 597 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: is the pay you're enduring it, you know what I mean. 598 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: It's a gunshot to maybe the arm or the hand 599 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: the cat, not to the bar, not to the head, 600 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: but to the hand. That's what that feels like. So 601 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 2: when I was finally ready to push, I looked at 602 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: my husband and I said, honey, I'm going somewhere else. Okay, 603 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go somewhere else in my head. Don't take 604 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: it personally if I don't look at you, I know, 605 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: fucking sensitive you get. He was like, I got you, girl. 606 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to war. 607 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: So I just looked forward. 608 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: And tried to push the way they were telling me 609 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: to push. And finally I so in the mode that 610 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: when my baby finally came out, my husband and say, 611 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: look at your baby. Look at your baby, and I 612 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: was like, what, oh my god, it's over. Okay, oh hey, 613 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: look at the let's see. 614 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: I had a very similar thing where I went to 615 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't take a video with my 616 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: son because I was terrified, but my daughter I took 617 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: a video. I don't even recognize that person. I don't 618 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: even know who the fuck I was or where I 619 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: went Katie. 620 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: When you have you ever looked at an actor right 621 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: before they're about to go on stage, right before they're 622 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: about to give a big monol up, we. 623 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: Look insane and totally insane. 624 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: Do not put your hand in the after cage, know 625 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: when that is happening, because you go into this fugue 626 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: state that is is wild. 627 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: So how has parenting changed your marriage? How's the responsibility 628 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: shaking out? 629 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: The romance has gone out the window. I gotta say, 630 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: we do have have what my girlfriend recommended to me, 631 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: sexy Sundays, so we try to have sexy Sundays. It's 632 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: been Yeah, it is. The ross has gone out the window. 633 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: In fact, the other night I said, I miss us. 634 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: I told him and he was like, yeah, I miss 635 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: us too. He's like, we need to go on dates 636 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 2: and stuff. 637 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: If anyone ever figures that fucking shit out, tell me, 638 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: because what the fuck. I'm like, they're like a date 639 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: night once a week. I'm like, when I'm so fucking tired, 640 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: because it's not like I don't want to have sex 641 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: and we're I'm watching fucking Yellowstone like you're busy, Take. 642 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 2: Your fucking dick off of me, Tom, come here, come 643 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: say hi to this podcast. 644 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: Hi Tom, you have your head, Hi puppy, Hi Tom. 645 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: It's such a night. It's so nice to be too. 646 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: Hi Tom, so nice to lovely to meet your dog. 647 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: Oh please, I'm fine. Oh my god, you're all adorable. 648 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: We're having a good time. 649 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: We're the best. I love talking about parents. And I'm 650 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: gonna take you through a couple more questions quickly. I 651 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: don't want to go much later than we had planned. 652 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: But who is the good cop and who is the 653 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: bad cop? 654 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: My husband is the bad cop. I'm the good cop, 655 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 2: and he's always like we have to be on the 656 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: same page, Alanna, you can't coddle him when I'm yelling 657 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: and screaming at him and put him in your arms 658 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: and give him kisses. But I love him so much. 659 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: It's really hard. We have good cop bad cop stuff too, 660 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: So that's how the roles have shaken out, is that 661 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: he's bad cop, you're a good cop. I am too. 662 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: We have to work on that. 663 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: Boy. I just I like to be liked. That's a problem, 664 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: and I want I want to be the favorite, and 665 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: I want my kid to come to me if he 666 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: ever gets anyone pregnant. 667 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: Same or you know needs help? Yes, same, and he 668 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: will he will. You will always be the couch and 669 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: the fountain in your background to have these regulated conversations 670 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: with him when he's going through hard stuff. Host tantrum, 671 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: the tantrum. 672 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 2: You are smart. You are not one smart motherfucker. You 673 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: really are, kid. 674 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you quickly. What advice would you like 675 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: to give your child today. 676 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: With everything going on in the world. Be kind? Just 677 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: be kind kid, Be kind and understanding because everyone is 678 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 2: going through something, everyone is in pain. My father's death 679 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 2: affected my entire family, and it happened when I was nineteen. 680 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 2: I think about him at least four times a week. 681 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: He died quite violently and quite suddenly. I just I 682 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: never want my kid to go down that road. Right, 683 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 2: it was suicide, and so for me, all I could 684 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: say is be kind to yourself and to others. Yeah, 685 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: for sure. 686 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: I have such goosebumps. He is so lucky to have 687 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: you all. 688 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: Bless you, Thank you so much. 689 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: And our last question we always ask our guest is 690 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: finish this sentence. 691 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: Parenthood is oh wow, this is good, she said. Parenthood 692 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: is Alana fill in the blank, Tom, what is that. 693 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: What is parenthood is? I think it's a second It's 694 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 2: a second chance at life. Oh, parenthood is a second 695 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 2: chance at life. 696 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: Holy shit, Tom, we have not had anything like that. 697 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: She's like, holy shit, We've never had anyone say something 698 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 2: like that, because second chance. Yes it is, because it's 699 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: can you hear him? 700 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's not only not wanting him or her 701 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: to make the same mistakes you did, but now we've 702 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: got this moving thing that is our culture and our 703 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: planet and our species that has changed constantly. 704 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: It really is, and you get to see things again 705 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: for the first time that, Oh, you guys are beautiful, cute, 706 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: honest and real and incredible, And your son will always 707 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: be real and honest and authentic and himself because I 708 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: help you, that's what he's seeing. A household Phil. 709 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 710 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: So, I can't thank you enough for coming on Katie's Crib. 711 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: I think you're amazing. I really would love to have 712 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: you back on the podcast. 713 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: Be delighted. I adore you. You are just so lovely. 714 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and thank you listeners. 715 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: Thank you just such a pleasure. 716 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to today's episode. 717 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. Let's chat questions, comments, concerns. 718 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: Let me know. You can always find me at Katie'scrib 719 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: at shondaland dot com. 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