1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sarahcustack. I'm the NBA analyst for they S Network, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: and I'm hosting a new podcast called NBA Flashback. NBA 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Flashback takes you back to the best moments in NBA 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: history through exclusive archival audio from the NBA vault, and 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: each week we'll have new interviews with the legends who 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: were actually on the court. Check out NBA Flashback on 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: the I Heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: get your podcast. On April four, Dr Martin Luther King 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: was shot and killed in Memphis. A petty criminal named 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: James Earl Ray was arrested. Case closed right. 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I am your host with Sean McDonald. I 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: say this every week. It's time to stop reading other 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: people's success stores and start writing your own. And people 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: always talk about gifts and purpose. If you have a gift, 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: lead with your gift and don't let your age, friends, 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: family or co workers stop you from planning or living 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: your dreams. My interviews I have on money making conversation 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: or with celebrities, CEO entrepreneurs and people are like call 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. My next guest is Tamika Foster Raymond. 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: She is most known for her extensive career as a 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: trend setting celebrity stylists, lending her creative talents to legendary 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: soul singers like Patty LaBelle, Shaka Khan, and Read the 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Franklin to Chop chalk toppers such as Jay z Usher, 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Mary J Blas, Sierra, the Fuji, Dr Trey 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: and Moore. Shopping the design the Next Style Crave was 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: just one of the many responsibility that to make a 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Raymond juggle for over two decades, and her memoir, Tamka 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: opens up about her childhood influences, coming up age in Oakland, 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: and losing her first love without losing her decoral dignity 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: or ability to dream. She shares details of her own 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: brush with death, as well as the heartbreak she didn't 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: do it after losing her love for your son, Kyle. 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: Here I Stand is about growth, renewal, perseverance, and optimism, 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: and ultimately about striving to remain in a presence of happiness. 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Here I stand in a beautiful state. Please work with 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the money making conversations. Tamika Foster Raymond, how you doing? Hi? 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: How are you? Thank you for having me? Well? You know, 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: first of all, are enjoy reading the book? I'm you know, 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: I read a lot of books to Maka, and I 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: love books to have pictures of it, especially memoirs, you know, 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: because it allows me to see that that journey and 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: you have a lot of great photos and what to 52 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: get photos in there, you have to go through a 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: lot and had to go call on friends and cousins. 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm sharing relatives and things like that. Talk about putting 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: the photos together in your book, because there was fun 56 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: watching you grow up and watching you and your you know, 57 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: as your career was ascending and in those moments. But 58 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: talking about putting together the photos that the beautiful photos 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: there are in this memoir that is completely accurate. It 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: was so hard gathering the pictures and and more importantly 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: narrowing down words to you. Yeah, because I have I 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: realized I have about probably about four thousand pictures. Um. 63 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do a picture book my next 64 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: go around, just all photos. Um uh yeah, I just 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: have to find things that kind of stamped certain times 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: in my life. Um, and clients were there's pivotal moments 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: that I worked with. I worked with so many people 68 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: that I couldn't put everybody in obviously, but I did 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: some of my top clients. Well, some of your top 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: clients are key because some of certain clients are allowed 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: you to go to the next level. Always thinking my 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: life personally, I was every time I see Robert Towns, 73 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I was a man. If it wasn't for you, you mean, 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: my next writing job, I would not be here today. 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: And it's people like that they step out, you know, 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: because he gave me my second writing job after Me 77 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and Boys with Steve Hart was abruptly Council ABC, and 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: he called me to write on this show on the 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: WB on the parenthood and so but people like that 80 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: came into your life, well, talked about you know Lauren 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Hill talk about that yes, Um, yeah, Lauren Hill was definitely, 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: I'd say, uh, kind of the pinnacle of my career. 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I think because I had started styling for a few 84 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: years before meeting her, and when I met her, you know, 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: she took it to a whole other level. Um, because 86 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: working with the food I was working with the fujis 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: as a whole at first, and then when Lauren did 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: her independent project Miseducation, I was, you know, in charge 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: of that whole. Look when you look at the ease, 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: because you have to have an opinion. That's what I 91 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: love about people like you because you're talking to celebrities 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: and you're talking to a lot of people who also 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: have their opinions have but not you. So you're kind 94 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: of like fighting their opinions. But you have to stand strong. 95 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: You didn't just fall into this skill set, but it 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: started as early early on as a child, when you 97 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: started getting confidence to be able to tell celebrities or 98 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: tell what we would consider professionals in their craft, this 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: is how they should look. And trust me, we know 100 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: a true stylists. It goes beyond just what they wear. 101 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: You kind of go into what their demographic is, and 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: who they're trying to appeal to. So you know, I 103 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: listened to the music usually and I kind of analyze 104 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: um kind of what they're trying to say, what the 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: messaging is, what they're trying to get it come across 106 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: as and I don't know, I am very opinionated. Always happened, 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think I've probably started 108 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: with our first client giving my opinions too heavily. Well, 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the opinions matter, and so if you don't have an opinion, really, 110 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: especially in your business, I know that when you're in 111 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: a business like this, you know there's very few people 112 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: you can trust, and confidence has to play a role. 113 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: And when I started reading your memoir, which is a 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: wonderful with memoir a very uh in somewhat emotionally charged, 115 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes I grew sad by some of the stories 116 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: because tragedy and sadness has been a part of your life. 117 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: But you've overcome that. How because a lot of people 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: would like to know that how they can personally not 119 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: just you, but how they can personally read your book 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: and take that away and especially carried into their own 121 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: personal life. I think it's important to remain in a 122 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: beautiful state. And I say that because you only have 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: two states of being. You can either be in a 124 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: suffering state or a beautiful state. And you know, I 125 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: go through many, many things, but I don't let them 126 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: define me. Um. I mean, of course I go through 127 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: really sad times, but I try to see kind of 128 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: the light at the end of the tunnel, you know, 129 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: I try to find the bright itel and things. So 130 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't stay mad at things. I get mad. I'm 131 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: still you get mad. I've got some chapters and then 132 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: you got mad. Not you got mad. I get mad. Mad. Yeah, 133 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: I get mad. Mad, It's in me, but I just 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: I know, I shake it off. I don't stay mad. 135 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't stay mad at people. I don't say mad 136 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: at things. I just keep moving. And I think that 137 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: positive outlook has helped me to maintain just remaining as 138 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: a happy person and remaining you know, successful, And it's 139 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I've been continuing to flourish as a result. So I 140 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: think my mindset is a lot about my mindset, and 141 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: mind set is very key. I know to me, when 142 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: I was reading the book, you know, Oakland, I don't 143 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: really have a I've been to Oakland, several times for 144 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: concerts when I was with Steve Harvey. So I got 145 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: that idea of what Oakland is. What is Oakland then 146 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: when you when you was growing up at a young 147 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: lady at the age of fifteen, and now it's it's 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Oakland change or there's still parts of Oakland that really 149 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: really refreshes your memory and just makes you smile and laugh, 150 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: or I'll make you say, let's see, that's funny. I 151 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: just left Oakland last night and I was just having 152 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: this conversation when I was fifteen. One thing that was 153 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: going on in Oakland that I don't know if I 154 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: don't know, if I want to say it changed, it's definitely. Um, 155 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: it was heavily infested with drugs. Drugs were a problem 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: in Oakland. Um, from on both sides of the table, 157 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: from using and the dealing of it. Um. You know, 158 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: I said in the book. I think at one point 159 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: I said it was it was thriving and dying at 160 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: the same time. Um, there's such you know, geographically is 161 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: such a beautiful plot of land. I feel like so 162 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: much can be done. You know, it's very rich in 163 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: the location, Like we're right on the bay. We have 164 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: the most beautiful trees and scenery. It feels like they 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: need to tear everything down and startle. Well, it's because 166 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: you say right on, and I know that, but it 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: almost feels like when you read about Oakland, you know, 168 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: you know about the Oakland Raiders when they're they're in Oakland, 169 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: like from a sports standpoint, you kind of are aware 170 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: of Oakland. But it feels like, just when you reminded 171 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: me returns right there on the water, I kind of 172 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: got to feel even though I've been there, I didn't 173 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: really get that feel. It feels like Oakland is away 174 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: from the water. It feels like it's like it's almost 175 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,479 Speaker 1: feels like a neighborhood that's a that's in a bigger neighborhood. 176 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: It almost feels that way because I've been there and then, 177 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: but the imagery of it, you know, because you always 178 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: talk about San Francisco, you'all talking about you know, the 179 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: different areas around, but when you get to Oakland always 180 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: feels like it's small. And I am I sad Am, 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: I incorrecting my statement about that that Oakland feels a 182 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: big city but it has a small culture. You know what. 183 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: I Well, I'll tell you something really good about it though. 184 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: Oakland is very proud me meaning we're a black aware 185 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: and open. We are like you know we we will 186 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: create a lot of movements, you know, the Black Panthers. 187 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: We had a lot of movements that started out of 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: open and a lot of great leaders from open Um 189 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: and I I say, the core of the people there, 190 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: there are some of the most real people you'll meet, 191 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: you know. Um So I love the people. I say 192 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: it all the time. 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You you see the violence 230 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: and you see the negativity, but it doesn't you know, 231 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: my family protected me as much as they could, so 232 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: it really didn't impact me. Now, your parents were doing 233 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: the same thing for you. And I love the fact 234 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: you know what you know to separate when when you 235 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: were twelve years old, which made a difference in your 236 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: life and your approach. But I love the fact you 237 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: said that your father, your father had a role in 238 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: the man. I said, Oh my god, that's my man 239 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: right there, back, my back, my all time favorite pimp movies. 240 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: Your dad's in the back. And then when I see 241 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: a picture of he looked like he belonged in the 242 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: back too, like, oh my goodness, he was something ill child. 243 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: Probably should have directed the back. Yeah, he looks just 244 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: like Max Julian. If you want to know, if you 245 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: buy the book, I'm not saying he's a he's a 246 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: clone to Mac Ju, but he has the same structure, 247 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: same style, same personality as Max Julian, who was the 248 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: star of the movie The Mac the Fame Movie and 249 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Mac which you also start Richard prior. At the time, 250 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: I just smiled and the moments like that in the 251 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: book that made me smile a lot in your book, 252 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: what was the whole of just telling the story? And 253 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: then you have these moments when you got hit by 254 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: the car. You know, it's like and and he was 255 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: I won't say funny to me because because I'm trying 256 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: to figure out how did this guy get away, take 257 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: you home, dropped you off? But nobody got his name, 258 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: nobody got an insurance card from him, and he just 259 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: left his history a quick story telling the truth. You 260 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: were hit, and you were with nine years old. I 261 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: was nine. I flew down, I said, I made a 262 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: quick stop and quick stop it, you know. And so 263 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: it's just a quick scenario without telling too many details. 264 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: She gets hit and the person takes her home and 265 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: that's it. You know. Nobody took the time to say, 266 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: what's your name? So, and you were driving a nice 267 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: card too, by the way, driving a nice car, and 268 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: U and and and so so but that that that 269 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: kind of like led me to the whole story. Your 270 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: life is going to be filed with these moments. So 271 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: these these moments of uncertainty and uh and mystery, because 272 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: that was a mystery to me. You got hit. Fortunately 273 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: for us, all you survived, and then it started putting 274 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: in motion in your life for the from moving forward 275 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: from their own because at twelve, that's when your parents 276 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: finally separated, and that's when you started defining yourself as 277 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: as a quote unquote an adults. Because you wanted to 278 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: do about me burning the house down, well I was, 279 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: I keep you gotta watch it. Now, you can't tell 280 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: all the good stories I'm telling. I'm trying. I'm telling this. 281 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: I do books to mak I know the books. See, 282 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: I know I can tell everybody if they're messing with 283 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: your dad's stuff. You know what I'm saying. And got 284 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: carried away and then all sitting through a little water, 285 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: went downstairs and didn't tell anybody to you grown what 286 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: really happened. To see, don't worry. I read these books, 287 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: and your book is fantastic. This book is fantastic, But 288 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: what I tried to do when it is because it's 289 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: a memoir, and the memoirs very engaging from the standpoint 290 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: you you know, their motivational quoting here that she gives 291 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: you as well, which I think I find very fascinating 292 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: because when somebody is telling you their life but realized 293 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: that their life is relatable to what you may be 294 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: dealing with, it's fascinating they've taken the time to share 295 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: this moment because they're all revealing a moment in their 296 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: life that may not be very happy and maybe very sad, 297 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: but if you can take the time to understand that 298 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: that through that sadness, is a blessing. And that's what 299 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: I took away a lot of times in your book, 300 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: is these moments that you were revealing to me, whether 301 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: it was criticism. When you were sitting down talking to Wendy, 302 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Wendy Williams, the radio shock job who was now on 303 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: television kid uh the daytime talk show, Uh, way back 304 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: here because I know Wendy way back. And then then 305 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: when she was on WBLS, that's when you ran into 306 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: her and and and she caught you off guard because 307 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: you have to learn. So that was your first time 308 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: really learning how the power of you have to know 309 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: who you're talking to and have to deal with the 310 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: consequences when you talk talk about that. You know, I 311 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: have heard of you know, this famed reporter Wendy Williams, 312 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: but you know, no different than Barbara Walters or anybody else. 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know the difference in their style of journalism, 314 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: if you know, if that's what we're gonna call this. 315 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: But so when I met her and they were like, oh, 316 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: she's big time on the radio. She can help you. 317 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: You know, you can go in there and promote your 318 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, promote your company, swinky. Now I was thinking, oh, 319 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't get a million clients in New York from there. 320 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea that she wanted the tea, yes, yeah. 321 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: And when she didn't get it, See, the thing is, 322 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm from Oakland, and I'm I'm savvy enough to tell 323 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: when it's going in the wrong direction. So I started 324 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: redirecting her. She did not like it. She's like, wait 325 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: a minute, this girl got a brain. Oh hell no, 326 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: we thought were gonna trap her, right, yeah. No. She 327 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: didn't like someone that was thinking about her questions and 328 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: slow to answer, and you know, I was taking pregnancy 329 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: pause and she would ask stuff all like no, No, 330 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna ruin me. I'm not doing that. She tried 331 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: to any because she bad moth for you and act 332 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: like bad mom for you. Just why you you told 333 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: me you're gonna say this. You came into radio and 334 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: you didn't say this and try to excellent tell you 335 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: was intoxicated and all those and so so that was 336 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: your first foray into negative media. Did it prepare you 337 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: for the future? It did somewhat prepare me, But I'll 338 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: tell you it was a snowball from there because they 339 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: took that you know, Cliff that you know, that sound 340 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: those sound bites, and they were able to run with 341 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: it and create a big old narrative, you know, and 342 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: it's turned into a long, long, long journey. But you 343 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: know what I said, even then, hurt people. Hurt people, Yes, 344 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: so when you are in a state of suffering, and 345 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: which we've later found that she was um that you 346 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: you hurt people, so that what you do for a living, 347 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: that's your way of acting out. And you know, she 348 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: had a loud voice. So it's no way for me 349 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: to win against her. At the time. Oh, absolutely, very 350 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: familiar with Wendy Willims. Stephen Harvey now was on the 351 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: radio or w BLS. We did the morning drive, she 352 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: did the afternoon drive, and uh, and so I knew 353 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: her what she did. Charlemagne was on the show at 354 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: the time. That's where he launched his career and now 355 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: he's a big time star on the Breakfast Club and 356 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: also as his a nighttime show on the Comedy Channel. 357 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: So when when I look at fashion, so I'm just 358 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: to me, I think I can dress. You know what 359 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think I got it going on. I'm 360 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: not saying, you know, I'm in front of a front 361 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: of an international stylists and everything. What do you look 362 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: at male female where they're in their career, how do 363 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: you start applying their style or the sense of what 364 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: they should look for that particular moment talked him, because 365 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: I remember we talked about you talk about when you 366 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: first met seven oh two and did the video and 367 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: you weren't even extra and did their makeup because they 368 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: came into your trailer crimes my makeup. He said, calm 369 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: down that even I'm getting this in his interview, you 370 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: have a sense of calm that really shines through you. 371 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: To Mika, talk about that because it's a lot of 372 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: stories that makes people calm because means these experiences. But 373 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: talk about that because I realized that panicking just doesn't 374 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: solve anything, you know. I realized that one you know, 375 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: this morning, I was taking my sons to school and 376 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: I was fussing at him because he forgot something or whatever. 377 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: He even had to remind me. He's like, why does 378 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: fussing get you? He said, what do you get out 379 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: of it? I fell out laughing. I said, Lord, he 380 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: sounds like me because he's heard you. He's heard you. Now, 381 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: you know those little ears. Hear up a lot of information. 382 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: So know that comes that came out your mouth. Okay, yeah, 383 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: he's thirty, he's w He was like, what do you 384 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: get from that? What do you gain? What do you gain? 385 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, he's turning them to 386 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: be already. Um yeah, I do have a sense, you 387 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: know why. I know when you stay, when you were 388 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: a calm, you can figure your brain starts to unwravel 389 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: whatever the problem is. You know, you start to figure 390 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: it out. When you panic and you're in a suffering 391 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: state and you're just acting a fool and being crazy, 392 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: you can't figure nothing out. The universe won't work in 393 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: your favor, everything just starts to go wrong. So I 394 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: try to just I don't know, I just I try 395 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: to really remain calm and and think logically and just 396 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: apply wisdom. I have a lot of experience. Even in 397 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: the book, I realized people have been whizzing through my book. 398 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: They've been reading it in two days, like not putting 399 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: it down, which is a good a great sign. There's 400 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: so much stuff that's not even in there yet. You know, 401 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: there's just so much, so much stuff that's not in there. Well. 402 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: I know there's a monumental shift in power at work. 403 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: Employees are speaking up. Turnover is rising, salaries are increasing, 404 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: hiring is tough, and burnout is real. It's time to 405 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: unleash growth. It's time to transform your HR from powerless 406 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: to powerful. 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Is this fascinating world? 424 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: Find a forest near you and start exploring and discover 425 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: the forest dot orgon brought to you by the United 426 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: States Forest Service and the Council. There is uh. First 427 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: of all, there there you've lived several lives, and I 428 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: say that in a complimentary manner. You know your life, 429 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: your life as a youth, could be an episode, could 430 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: be a series no different than uh than uh what 431 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: fifty assists putting out on stars? Okay, that little run 432 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: right there, okay. And then when you made the move 433 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: to l A, you know, with your son and uh, 434 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: and that whole run of stepping out what I said, 435 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: what I could I use the word stepping out on 436 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: faith is when you moved to from Oakland to Los Angeles. 437 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: And if it was stepping out on faith, what allowed 438 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: you to sustain any level of success because you gotta 439 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: have planning somewhere along in the lay but you was 440 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: riding there for about four or five years. When you 441 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: move to l A on faith and just opportunity correct 442 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: faith in dimples. I had no idea what I was doing. 443 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: I didn't I knew that. UM. I knew that failure 444 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: wasn't an option, and failure to me would be well, 445 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: I guess the worst, you know, I was either becoming 446 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: homeless or you know, UM or going back to Oakland, 447 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: and those weren't to me, that would have been failure 448 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: in my mind because this was what I wanted to do. UM. 449 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: I didn't have a clear cut plan. I'd be lying 450 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: if I told you I did. But I knew that 451 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to get into this industry in some capacity. UM. 452 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: When I first got here, you know, I thought I 453 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: wanted to be behind this thing. I thought I wanted 454 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: to be in front of the camera to say, like 455 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: I like we all do by the way to me, 456 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: because I know when I went to l A, I 457 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be a sitcom star. I'm gonna 458 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: give my own sitcom to I was comedian. I thought 459 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: I'll be the next aid to Murphy. But again, what 460 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: I what I like a right now to say that 461 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: to bring up my example, there's so many, so many 462 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: people they stay in that lane and don't really adjust. 463 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: And your book is about adjusting. And I think that 464 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: when people read that, you know you could read it 465 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: for you. You might want to read this book for 466 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: selacials a storyline. You may get that. If I don't know, 467 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: all I got out of this book was was a 468 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: person sharing slices of their life. Because of the fact that, 469 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: like I said, this book can be like four books. 470 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you because she's going through some 471 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: chapters and I'm going back. She jumped from two thousand 472 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: and five two thousand and seven. The previous chapters us 473 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, but she had to go 474 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and four to tell you that 475 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: relationship with two thousand and two thousand and six. It's 476 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: so gonna like okay, so you know. That's why I 477 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: got always knows to mecause I either like, keep up 478 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: with your book there, And I say in a good way, 479 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: because in order to tell the story, certain relationships overlap, 480 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: and because certainly the relationships overlap, you often time got 481 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: caught in tap laws and saying, hey aren't you still mard, 482 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: Hey aren't you still dating this people? Hey? Why are 483 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: you doing this? Why are you here? So that in 484 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: the sense was you becoming a popular figure in social 485 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: media was not a benefit for you? Correct? No, I 486 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: would say it was not my finest moment. It wasn't 487 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: my finest moment. But yeah, I think, I mean, life 488 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: was just the way it was. You know, I was younger, 489 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: so I didn't quite transition from one relationship the next, 490 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: um quite as well as I should have. My transitions 491 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: were a little off. That's that's what I'm telling you. 492 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: That's why I have to write these dates. Dowallasa two 493 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: thousand seven. She was going with him, right, she was. 494 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: I was cute. I was young cute enough in two 495 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: thousand seven here I stand album with Robin Think that 496 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: was usher And that's also the title of your book. 497 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: And you said that book the title basically is a 498 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: double lore because it's not only a love album that 499 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: was written to you for you or to you or 500 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: Sha Raimon, but it also it's a testament to us 501 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: being doing this interview. Right now here I stand, you know, 502 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: in a beautiful state. Let's let's talk about that for 503 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: a few minutes, because I think it's important the mindset. 504 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about, you know, the mental 505 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: concepts of what people are you are at these days. 506 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: Here I stand in a beautiful state. Talk about that 507 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: right quick for me to maka. So, yes, it does 508 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: have a double entendre. So you know, Here I Stand 509 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: obviously is the name of the album. It's the title 510 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: cut Here I stands the song I dance to it 511 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: at my wedding, all that good mushy stuff. Um. The 512 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: album was created during the time when I was going 513 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: from dating to marriage and um, you know, conceiving my son, 514 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: um our oldest son together and all that. So that's 515 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: what here I Stand means. But then here I Stand 516 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: meaning I've been hell and high water. I've you know, survived, 517 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: like some of some losses that are so devastating that 518 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: some people wouldn't be able to get up the next day, 519 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: um over you know, losing my mom, my son, my grandmother, 520 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: my aunt, my sister, my brother. I've lost a lot 521 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: of family members and so Here I Stand just really 522 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: is an old to resilience for me. That's it means 523 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: more of Here I Stand in terms of resilience than 524 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: it does the album Believe it or not cool, Well, 525 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking to it, uh, Jamaica Falster Raimond. Her 526 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: book Here I Stand is about growth, renewal, perseverance, and optimism, 527 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: and it's ultimately about striving to remain positive. You are 528 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: a positive person and so many people have slung mud, 529 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: have slung sticks, have slung arrows in your direction? How 530 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: do you maintain that positivity? To Mika, like I said, 531 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: I just I think my perspective is just um, I 532 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: kind of I see the glasses half full and not empty, 533 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: and I look at the bright side and ivitate. Humor 534 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: has been It's funny you spoke about being a comedian. Um, 535 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: my father is one of the funniest. My father was 536 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: the funniest man you will ever speak to or be around. 537 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: He's huhilarious, and his mind is so sharp, and he's 538 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: so quick as timing, and it really has helped me 539 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: because I'm the same way. And I watched my father 540 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: he lost his mother and sister. They died in a 541 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: house by my granny Luke. I talked about her in 542 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: the book she died in a fire. UM. And and 543 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: my father's um. I guess ability to just remain just 544 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, lighthearted, I don't know. His spirit is 545 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: just light. He's not a heavy or mad guy's I've 546 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: never seen my dad mad at anyone. So for the 547 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: guy to hit him with his car, but my father 548 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: just doesn't hold on the anger. He doesn't hold budges. 549 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: And I'm the same exact way. I can't even usually 550 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: I can't even remember why I was mad at people. 551 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: After a couple of weeks, I was like, I don't 552 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: know why we fell out, remember, because I'm so busy 553 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: living my life. Well, you're living in a great life. 554 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: And this before a rap, I want to talk about 555 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: a couple of things that you've dedicated to your son, Kyles, 556 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: who passed away in twenty twelve. The Cow's World Foundation 557 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: in and also this through the animated series. Talk about 558 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: the Cow's World Cow's World Foundation. Yes, that is like 559 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: one of my joys Kyle's World foundation is a five 560 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: or one C three our focus UM. The initial focus 561 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: of Kyle's World was performing arts because Kyle was big 562 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: on He's saying. He danced, and he loved theater, and 563 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: he was also an artist. He painted. I have all 564 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: of his art work. But as time went on, I 565 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: noticed there were so many other performing arts efforts. I 566 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: switched it. I wanted to do UM. I wanted to 567 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: reward kids that did things, random acts of kind. This 568 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: like pods who do things like you'll read stories where they, 569 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 1: you know, they cut all their neighbors lawn to help 570 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: their mother pay her rent. You know, things like that. 571 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: Kids that do really nice gestures, I want to reward them. 572 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: So now it's about rewarding kids that are doing the 573 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: right thing. I'm just want to encourage them to do it. 574 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: Now you have this three D animated series. It's just 575 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: kind of like been it works since thirteen. Talk about it? 576 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: Will it become a reality? Come on, now, we got 577 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: me excited to speaking to exist. Let's go let talking 578 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: to the guy I'm speaking that will make it happen. 579 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: Talk to me about make it happen. Let's go listen 580 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: The Odd Life of Kyle Lyles. Oh my goodness, this 581 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: is black animation. This is something that we just need. 582 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Three we need. We need a black version of the incredible. 583 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: We need, Yes, we need our kids too. And and 584 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: the show is pop pulture heavy. We're talking fashion. So 585 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: the mom comes in with her little funny attitude and 586 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: she's fashionable. We got the kids and the newest Jordan one. 587 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's and Kyle was Kyle was actually into technology. 588 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: He loved all things Apple. He had the iPhone, the iPad, 589 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: the laptop, everything. So I wanted to be like all 590 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: advanced technology like his selfie stick, to be some state 591 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: of the art things. But he's a middle child and 592 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: he goes through the big big brother bully which was true, 593 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: and the little siblings that got on his nerves. And 594 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: it's funny because he ends up getting superpowers and his 595 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: family doesn't know that he has them. So it's an 596 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: amazing story. I love it. So you know, de side note, 597 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to read it and see what you are 598 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: with this when we in this interview. But again, Tamika, 599 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on my show 600 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: and allowing me to read your book and allowed me 601 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: to see the motivation and then you're charming, You're You're 602 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: definitely a person I want to keep on my phone 603 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: list and bring back on the show. If you have 604 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: any other projects that you want to pitch, You're You're awesome. 605 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: And again, her name is Tamika Falster Raymond. Her book 606 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: is incredible. 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