1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, kicking off our. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Three of Clay and Buck right now, everybody, thanks. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 3: For rolling with us. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: A couple of things we're gonna get to this hour. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 3: Interesting. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: The Trump prediction about live golf and the PGA that's 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 2: getting a lot of play now, Clay, I see this 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: a prediction that our owned Clay Travis also made last 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: before Trump. 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I give credit to Trump, but my prediction on Fox 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: News was a full month before his prediction. Great minds 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: can think alike. Just FYI, I'm gonna. 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: Let you and the Trumpster fight that out at the 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: seventeenth hole. That's up to you, guys, next time you're 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: playing golf together. But Trump is predicting as well. Speaking 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: of predictions, Hunter Biden will get charged with something small 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: to make their strike on me look fair. I'm starting 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: to think that some of Trump world is listening to 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: the radio show here, buddy. But can I just say, 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: for Clarity's sake before for settle with the victory. I 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: can already see the victory dance. You know, he's about 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: to start getting going. I have always said that their 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: plan is to do something that just means no jail, 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: that the special treatment will be deferred prosecution, something that 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: doesn't involve any prison time. That is the if they 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: go for prison time, I'm wrong. If Hunter spends time 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: in prison, I miss this one. 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: So I think Trump is probably right on this. 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: But do they feel they need that to balance it out? 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Clay Well, Maggie Haberman of The New York Times is 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: talking about sources telling her in Trump World that Trump. 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Now this is from the New York Times, so take 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: it for what it's worth. But Maggie Haberman has had 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: a lot of access to Trump and Trump World. That's 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: just a fact that Trump expects that there will be 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: federal charges against him in the mar lagu documents case too. 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: So what do you make of all of it. 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've said for a while that we think there 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: are going to be charges against Trump, and some people 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: get mad when we say we think they're going to 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: be charges against Trump. Understand, this is not Buck and 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: myself making decisions for the Department of Justice about whether 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: or not to charge. This also is not us saying, 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: by the way, Joe Biden's alleged crimes are far worse. Right, 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: We agree with all that I'm just I believe you 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: referred to my prediction, and I don't know when I 48 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: first made it, but it might have been a year 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: ago that Hunter Biden would get charged and it would 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: be the fig leaf that allowed the Department of Justice 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: to argue that Merrick Garland that he would say, whether 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: you're the son of the president or the former president, 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: nobody's above the law. And I'm not sure what the 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: significance of the charges would be against Hunter. I think 55 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: that Trump is right, and I think I've said I'm 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: not saying they're going to try to lock the key 57 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: and throw him away, right, But I believe Buck I'm correct. Again, 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: we can go to the transcript. I believe you said 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: that was the equivalent of not just calling a home run, 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: but calling a home run in the absolute upper deck 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: of the stadium, that you were going to plant the 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: ball there. I think it's the way they're going to 63 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: do it. And this is me trying to get inside 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: of Merrick Garland's head and if he is truly undertaking 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: what is an unprecedented, in my opinion, unjustifiable expansion of 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: political warfare that we've never seen in two hundred plus 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: years in this country to try to put your chief 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: political adversary in prison, using the Department of Justice and 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: the FBI to do so, of the sitting American president, 70 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: he and his mind buck as a lawyer, has to 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: convince himself that this is a justified action and that 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Trump's behavior is so egregious it's worthy of doing so. 73 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: But he wouldn't have to think of this in terms 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: of trade offs. If no one's above the law, it 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: doesn't matter whether this is done to Hunter Biden or not. 76 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: If Trump broke the law. No one's above the law. 77 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: So I don't see it as as a It's not 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: a legal rationale. It's a political rationale masquerading as a 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: legal rationale. 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's a great point. And here's what I 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: would say. I know a lot of lawyers who care 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: desperately what other lawyers think about them. You know, you 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: know how a profession sometimes judges itself more aggressively than 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: it does like the general public. There are lots of lawyers, 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: and Merrick Garland as one, that want to be extremely 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: esteemed by other members of the bar. And I think 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: in his mind, again, this is me trying to get 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: in Merrick Garland the Attorney general's mind. If he just 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: charges Trump, it looks like he is just the hatchet 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: man of Joe Biden, and I doesn't want that buck. 91 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I think he wants this idea of I am he 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: wanted to be a Supreme Court just r this play. 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: This is me inside of his head telling you what 94 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: I think he's so. 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: I have a very different view of Merrick Garland, right, 96 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: this is just based on his actions. I think Merrick 97 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: Garland is the guy who was willing to go along 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: with the parents at the teacher meetings, at the school 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: board meetings are domestic terrorists and need to be investigated. 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: I think Merrick Garland is a guy who is deeply 101 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: embittered to this day because of the bet that really 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: the Democrats gave to the Republicans, which is, you know, 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: or Mitch McConnell decided that he wasn't going to get 104 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: the upper down vote in the end of the Obama administration, 105 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: and they figured, oh, fine, Merrick Garland, that was our 106 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: moderate pick, which wasn't even true. Just as an aside, 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: but when we have President Hillary, we're going to get 108 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: a really great judge in there. And he lost out. 109 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: And I think he's bitter about that. So I don't 110 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: know that he's somebody who at this point, I mean 111 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: even people. I'll tell you this, Anny McCarthy, our friend 112 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: who comes on, you'll know him Fox News, Southern District 113 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: prosecutor for decades. He was a Merrick Garlands pretty I 114 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: talked about this many years ago. He's like a Merck 115 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: Garland's pretty close to being a moderate. If we got 116 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Andy on now, based on what he's done under the 117 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: Biden administration. 118 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: He'd say Merrick Garland is a hack. 119 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's you know, so I think things have changed 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: that take I get totally buck. And again, what I'm 121 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: thinking is Merrick Garland is what is he like? Sixty five? 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: That's my guess. Staff can let us know exactly how 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: old he is. My point on that is he's not 124 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: a young man who's got a long career. This is 125 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: probably the last job that he's ever going to have, 126 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: and so in his mind, and again this is me 127 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: trying to get in Merrick Garland's mind. You guys out 128 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: there may think this is crazy. I'm just telling you. 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: Having spent time around older lawyers, they start to think 130 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: a great deal about their legacy and the legacy is 131 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: often defined by the precedents that they set, that future 132 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: attorney generals will look at, that future lawyers will study. 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: In law school. 134 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: Right, I think he is desperately concerned about what his 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: legacy is. And if he just he's gonna turn seventy one, 136 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: he's even older than I thought. He's gonna be seventy 137 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: one in November. 138 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: I also charging a charging the leading Republican presidential contender 139 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: who's a former president, and charging the sitting president's crackhead 140 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: son is not the same thing. 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: It's not in the same. 142 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Universe, even apart from even apart from the crimes, even 143 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: apart from everything else. 144 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: So I don't understand this. 145 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Doesn't the argument of like if he was sitting around 146 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: with the fancy lawyers in the smoke filled room and 147 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: he's like, see you guys, I'm so even handed. 148 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: That argument's preposterous. And I don't even think he really 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: cares it matters to him. And if he's seventy one 150 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: and this is the last job that he's ever gonna have, 151 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: if he's going to undertake a truly unprecedented act, I 152 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: think he wants the fig leaf of I applied justice 153 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: evenly whether it was the president's son or it was 154 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: the president of the United States. I'm telling you that 155 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be his talking point. And 156 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong and he's gonna be totally partisan, like 157 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: I think Trump's gonna get charged, but I think he 158 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: wants that fig leaf. I think that's also why they 159 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: like the fact that Mike Pence had classified docsbuck, because 160 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: they're also going to say, and we're not just charging 161 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: Trump because he's a Republican. Mike Pence is a Republican 162 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: running for president. He had classified documents too, but he 163 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: handled it the right way. Double fig leafs. 164 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: I don't think they need fig leafs. I don't think 165 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: he cares. I don't understand. 166 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: Hold hold on, oh wait, hold on, Hold on a second, 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: Hold on a second. So the Mike Pence thing and 168 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden classified documents are effectively exactly the same. 169 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: So no person would look at what happened. 170 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: They had some some loose documents, you know, around that 171 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: were not secure. 172 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: That's it classified. 173 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: Those charges, or rather those circumstances for charges, are for 174 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, exactly the same. So it is 175 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: impossible to even pretend that there's a rule of law. 176 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: If you're going to charge Mike Pence and not charge 177 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: Joe Biden for it, They're not going to charge Trump 178 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: for the documents, as we all know. The belief is, 179 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: and maybe they don't charge him at all. 180 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 3: We don't know, but. 181 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: People are thinking that it's gonna be charges, and it's 182 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: gonna be around obstruction of the documents. Now, assuming that 183 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: that's true, they'll just say the obstruction is the problem, 184 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: not the rest of it. And I also just thin Clay, 185 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: this has been building for a long time. It's remarkable 186 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: when you think about how many Republican politicians have faced 187 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: either investigation of a criminal nature or even a prosecution 188 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: that's completely outrageous and obviously partisan. Him and you go 189 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: down the lit Chris Christy, who's running member Bridgegate. They 190 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: got to lock him up. It's horrible what he did 191 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: with the traffic jam, Scott Walker, the John Doe investigations, 192 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Rick Perry wanting to fire a prosecutor who was drunk driving. 193 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: It's felony abuse of power. Bob McDonald and Virginia when 194 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: he was the governor. The Supreme Court had to say, 195 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: can't actually just throw someone in prison because he was 196 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: hanging out with somebody like that's not really a thing. 197 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: Of course, Russia Trump collusion and all that with a 198 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: special council, they have been building to this for over 199 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: a decade and this this is actually perfect transition. What 200 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: does Gavin Newsom's fall back when he's getting into this 201 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: public spat with Ron DeSantis kidnapping charges. There have been 202 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: a couple of flights, a couple of flights of migrants 203 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: that have ended up in Sacramento, California, and the Governor 204 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: of California has said openly, Now, I mean, this is 205 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: the feud that is spilling out into you know, into 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: into public view for everybody. The headline here is Newsom 207 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: threatens to Santis with kidnapping charges over migrant flights to Sacramento, Clay. 208 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: This has become completely normalized for Democrats. Now instead of 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: Newsom saying my policies are better than yours, it's maybe 210 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: we're going to try to extradite the governor of Florida 211 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: to California under kidnapping charges. Also, offering someone a free 212 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: ride is not kidnapping. This is you don't have to 213 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: be a lawyer to get this one. 214 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: This is crazy well, this is a uh, this is 215 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: a preview of twenty twenty eight. Gavin Newsom is obsessed 216 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: fatal attraction style with Ron DeSantis. Like go look at 217 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's twitter feed. He is constantly responding to everything 218 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis does. And maybe it's in the event that 219 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't run, and in the event that something happens 220 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: with Trump in charges and everybody expects that we're gonna 221 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: get Trump Biden part two. But Buck, in the event 222 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: that we end up with something different than that, I 223 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: think a DeSantis versus Newsome matchup is not out of 224 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: the question. And and here Buck is a upper deck. 225 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Here is a called shot, the likes of which you 226 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: have not ever comet shot. I'm gonna going into this 227 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna tease this. If I get this right, 228 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: we got to think about what sort of payoff this 229 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: would be. This is like hitting a parlay. For those 230 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: of you who are gamblers, this is like hitting a 231 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: sixteen parlay. I have got an incredible theory that I 232 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: am going to share with you surrounding these allegations and 233 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: criminal investigations and everything else on the next segment. 234 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: And we're gonna start we're gonna start clipping all of 235 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: these moments, and we're gonna start betting things. I don't know, 236 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: Clay has to do the show with a mustache for 237 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: six months instead of his. 238 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Beer PGA thing. I'm just I'm just saying, it's a 239 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: good day. 240 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: I didn't. 241 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: I didn't even that's you know, there's no opposition of 242 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: that one, even care less. I'm glad you nail that, 243 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: though you did nail it. Although they're saying that Trump 244 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: nailed did Clay, So let's not let's not for Trump? 245 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: Is that great mind? Sometimes think alike? As we well know. 246 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: There you go, all right, switching gears, folks. 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Some are saying some are saying me. 275 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: Some are saying, this may be the greatest called shot 276 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: in the history of radio. Getting Trumpy too, I like this. 277 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Getting Trumpy Trumpy too Trump like. I will say this, 278 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: There's been a huge debate in the audience, huge debate 279 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: on the show about Joe Biden as a twenty twenty 280 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: four contender. What if the way out for Biden is 281 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: through Hunter being charged with a crime. He decides to 282 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: pardon Hut. Hunter also decides to pardon Trump as his 283 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: fig leaf justification of how nasty our politics has become. 284 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Says that he has done his best to help to 285 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: mend the tears in the nation, but that he believes 286 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: for the betterment of the country, it is important that 287 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: he stepped down, but he wants to try to fulfill 288 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: his campaign pledge to return normalcy and decorum, and therefore 289 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: he has decided both President Trump and his son should 290 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: be pardoned of all federal crimes and he will not 291 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: run going forward. This is a statesman like exit for 292 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: him that simultaneously protects his son. It would be negotiated 293 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: with Merrit Garland in advance, so Merrick Garland knows that 294 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: this is actually going to get wiped out, but it 295 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: allows Merrick Garland to also wag his figure and talk 296 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: about no one being above the law. Everybody wins. 297 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: Think about it, I think you've seen a lot of 298 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: Aaron Sorkin movies. My man, I'm sorry. I think these 299 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: lunatic libs are gonna go scorch Drith and burn down 300 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: the Republic before any of that stuff happens. 301 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. 302 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: You would still have the New York and Georgia. And 303 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people are forgetting, because the 304 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: federal charges are potentially just a pin prick of the 305 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: problem that Donald Trump is going to face overall. But 306 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: if there were. 307 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: New York, he's not New York. He's not gonna there's 308 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: no prison that's gonna happen with the New York charge. 309 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine, right. And I think Georgia. We 310 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: talked to Andy about this McCarthy last week. George is 311 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: pretty weak really because if it is just if it's 312 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: advancing illegal theory, no matter how much they hate a 313 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: legal theory, if you criminalize that, you know what's next, 314 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: criminalizing somebody having a legal defense when they're accused of 315 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: a crime. It's it's crazy. So I think that a 316 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: big part of it, Clay is just going to be 317 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: they're doing this to impune him, and they're doing this 318 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: to mess up the gears of the Trump campaign. That's 319 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: their plan. The process is the punishment. One of the 320 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: most important things to know about American politics and American 321 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: life these days, and they're just going to try to 322 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: grind him down with court appearances and nonsense while he 323 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: and of course MSNBC and cnn'll be saying, are you know, 324 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: alleged fellon Republican nominee and all the you know, fake 325 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: and sanctimonious nonsense. So that's how I see it playing out. 326 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: But if you're if you're right on this, I don't 327 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: even know what to say. We got to get you 328 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: a crystal ball and like one of those. 329 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I would just yeah, monocle and everything else. 330 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: I would love to hear from Bill Barr, because my 331 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: idea is, when you're the former attorney general, those guys 332 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: all get together and they have scotches or whatever it is, 333 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: and they don't want to be looked at as a 334 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: partisan loon. 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Coach Bill Courtney, who just 362 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: launched a new podcast on iHeart called an Army of 363 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: Normal Folks. He's also the subject and I love this movie. 364 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: Some of you may have seen it. Won an OSCAR 365 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: in Documentary the documentary category called Undefeated, author of Against 366 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: the Grain, and I want to start Coach with the 367 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: movie Undefeated for those of you out there who are 368 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: looking for something that you might want to watch with 369 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: your family. If you haven't seen this, it's the story 370 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: of Bill and a inner city Memphis team and their 371 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: quest to try to win a state championship. And really 372 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: you see the degree to which and this is why 373 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: I was so fired up about COVID shutting down so 374 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: many schools. A huge percentage of boys, And I know 375 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: a lot of you out there listening know exactly what 376 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, and I want you to explain it 377 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: for people who may. 378 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: Not see Coach. 379 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: A huge percentage of boys out there, especially in inner cities, 380 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: stay in school so they can play sports. I mean, 381 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: that's just the truth. And you hope the light bulb 382 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: is going to go off at some point, basketball, football, 383 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: but whatever the sport is. Coach, what did you see 384 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: and how important when that movie Undefeated came out, which 385 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: won an Oscar and it's fabulous. I encourage you guys 386 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: all to watch it. How much does just playing a 387 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: sport help to keep so many kids out there on 388 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: the straight and narrow and even enrolled in school period. 389 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: Well, it's the hook. I mean, I can't tell you 390 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: how many people have come to me and said, you know, 391 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: I've tried to do this, I've tried to do that. 392 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 4: How do I reach this segment of people or this 393 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: segment of people? And the answer is you got to 394 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: have a hook? And the hook for me was football. 395 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: And you're absolutely right. A lot of kids, obviously they 396 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: have it backwards. They're not in school to play football, 397 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 4: they're in school to learn. But the true candor is 398 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: the football is the hook, and that hook gives you 399 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 4: an opportunity to reach them on things that will hopefully 400 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 4: last long after football ins. 401 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: Coach Bill, it's buck, thanks for being with us. So 402 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: Clay has been it thank you, thank you. Clay has 403 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: been educating me on this PGA Live merger. A lot 404 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: of big headlines all across the internet. Some people very 405 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: very fired up over this. 406 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: What do you think? I mean, you're a guy who 407 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: knows sports, what's going on? You know? 408 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: I think it's a pot purry of gravy and mashed 409 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: potatoes mixed up with egos that God only knows what 410 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: that's going to taste like when it's over with. Frankly, 411 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot of money, a lot of ego, 412 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: a lot of posturing. 413 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: And. 414 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: You know, it's amazing. It's almost like politics, how people 415 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: can sit there and tell one another how bad they 416 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: don't like each other and how much they distrust each 417 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: other and how evil one another are, and then somehow 418 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: turn around and end up in a in a bowl together. Yeah, 419 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know. I think I think people 420 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: should check their egos at the door a little bit 421 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: and avoid some of what those guys are going through 422 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: right now. 423 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: And would you tell us what you launched a podcast 424 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: on iHeart last month an army actually normal. 425 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 4: Actually today, guys today, I'm yeah, I've been working on 426 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: it for a year, actually doing interviews and all, but 427 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: the first launch today on iHeart and it's yeah, it's 428 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: an army of normal folks, And yeah, it kind of 429 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: sounds goofy, but that is in all of our urban areas. 430 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: We drive around the cities and there's these exits or 431 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: or all ramps or viaducts where you really don't want 432 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: your call to break down, or you have a flat tire, 433 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 4: and you kind of look over the edge of the 434 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: viaduct as you pass by, and you think, man, somebody 435 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 4: ought to do something about that one day, as you 436 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: kind of peer down at the despair and the disenfranchisement, 437 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: the poverty, and the brokenness that continues to plague our 438 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 4: society and culture today, as if that sentiment matters. And 439 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: I don't think the sentiment means a damn thing, Frankly. 440 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: I think you got to tilt that review mirror about 441 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: thirty degrees and look yourself in the face and say, 442 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: you know, I ought to do something about that one day. 443 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: I think government has proven woefully inadequate in caring for 444 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: the most disadvantaged among us. I think it becomes paternalistic. 445 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: I think we strip people of the dignity and value 446 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 4: of hard work, and I think the more government, the worse. 447 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: And I think you can say that, but you hypore 448 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: critical to say that if then you're not willing to 449 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 4: get off your butt and go do something in your 450 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: communities about things that that that you can that you 451 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 4: can do. And so we've created this podcast called an 452 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: Army of Normal Folks and we are interviewing I just 453 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: don't think the world's problems are going to be solved 454 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: by fancy people on Fox and CNN using big words 455 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: that nobody understands. I just I think I think we 456 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: have a lot of dysfunction in DC. And you know, 457 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: we have sought out average, normal folks who have done 458 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: extraordinary things in their communities, and we're telling those stories. 459 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 4: And we're not telling those stories in a Hallmark way 460 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 4: with a pretty bow wrapped up on it. All of 461 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: us have failures and inhibitions and goals and dreams and 462 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: sadness and excitement our life. And so we kind of 463 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: unpack each of these and visuals worlds where they came 464 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: from and not why they did something good because they're 465 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 4: so wonderful, but really what they overcame to be active 466 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: in their communities societies, And we tell those stories each week, 467 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: and the idea is hopefully it's not only redemptive, but inspirational, 468 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: and it motivates all of us to say, I don't 469 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: care if we're right, left, black, white, green, blue, Christian, Jewish, agnostic, whatever. 470 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 4: The one thing we all can do together is be 471 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: an army of normal folks serving those in our community. 472 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: Coach, last question for you, your story Undefeated, and I 473 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: would encourage people to check out the podcast at Iheart's 474 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: distributing an army of normal folks. But you in the 475 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: movie Undefeated spent obviously a huge part of that story 476 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: is Memphis right What can you tell us about what's 477 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: going on in the ground in Memphis right now? This 478 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: show is number one, I believe in the Memphis area. 479 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: Tons of people are listening there right now. Memphis has 480 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: had a brutal past several years. Your story was before COVID, 481 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: several years before, but the struggles of the city has 482 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: been going through were certainly epitomized in that story. What 483 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: is the city of Memphis like now and what needs 484 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: to happen in order for Memphis to get back to 485 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: being a place that frankly is safe and that allows 486 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: as many kids as possible to have productive futures. 487 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 4: Memphis is a cool place. First of all, I don't 488 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 4: want to rail on Memphis. I mean lots of culture, 489 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: lots of history, music, barbecue, FedEx World headquarters, is there, 490 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 4: international paper, AutoZone. Memphis has a lot going for it, 491 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: but you're absolutely right, it has a lot going against it. 492 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: And candidly, guys, I would love to be able to 493 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 4: join you all for two hours and talk every political 494 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: bit you guys can come up with. And I do 495 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: listen to you, and I know I love it. But 496 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: what I'm about to say is really not very sexy, 497 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: but it's just true. Until we start educating our children, 498 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: we are going to continue to have problems in our cities. 499 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: And education is really not a sexy buzzword. It's not 500 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 4: something that ever ticks in the top ten of politicians 501 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: worlds when they're out campaigning. But it's just true. And 502 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: the other truth to that is we all have a 503 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: problem with it. School Boards are typically elected, and so 504 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: we have a problem with our school boards. We have 505 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 4: a problem with our teachers and school unions. We have 506 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 4: a problem with our parents, we have a problem with 507 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 4: our administrators. We have a problem and we sit there 508 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: and we see our city's tax bases dwindle because we 509 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: continue not to graduate productive citizens that are adding to 510 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 4: that tax base. And we see crime being committed by 511 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: younger and younger and younger people. It should be in 512 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 4: high school or haven't been in high school, orren't learning anything. 513 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: And we sit around and talk about what are we 514 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: going to do? And meanwhile, we all are complicit in 515 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 4: a really poorly educated public. And until we get serious 516 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: about taking care of our kids, we're going to continue 517 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 4: to perpetuate generational poverty and crime. And I think Memphis 518 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: is suffering from that, but I also think so do 519 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: many muchropolitan areas around our country, and it gets worse 520 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: and worse until we get serious about it, I fear 521 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: we're going to continue to suffer the consequences of that 522 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: inaction on our part. 523 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: Coach Bill, thanks so much for being here. The podcast 524 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: is out for everyone to check out. 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Find it 554 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 555 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: Hoosen them shop here on Clay and Buck for the day. 556 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: And I want to remind you all check out the 557 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: podcast that we have here at the Clay and Buck Show. 558 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: We also have additional content that goes in that stream. 559 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: So even if you're listening on one of our fantastic 560 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 2: affiliates like for example, k t LK FM here in St. 561 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: Louis where I am, I'll be hanging out tonight for listening. 562 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: I hope you're coming to the event tonight in Saint 563 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: Louis where I will be hanging out with everybody who 564 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: is there and talking about saving America, which is really 565 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: the basis of everything that we do. But the podcast 566 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: stream is full of new content, things like deep dive 567 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: interviews to Tutor Dixon podcast. Check it out also, Clay, 568 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: it seems to me. 569 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: That you are going to be out for a few 570 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: days here are you? Is this a. 571 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: Couple's retreat and have you seen the Couple's Retreat movie. 572 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: I've not seen the movies. Yeah, I'm going out. You 573 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: may have heard of this place. I've never been. It's 574 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: in East Tennessee called BlackBerry Farms, and I always wanted 575 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: to go to. Yeah, it's supposedly really nice. I've never been. 576 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: Two of my buddies from law school and their wives 577 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: they all put this trip together. So I'm gonna be 578 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: out there, and honestly, I mean giving people a little 579 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: bit behind the scenes. I told you, I was like, hey, 580 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: just so you know, it wouldn't stun me if Trump 581 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: got charged, and so I told you, I was like, hey, 582 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: I'll put the I'll put the trip a little bit 583 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: on Hayita since not like I'm gonna be unreachable, because 584 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: I think this is one of those times when you know, 585 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: when you wake up and put pick up your phone 586 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: in the morning, like you have no idea what might 587 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: happen during the course of the day. 588 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: I mean, if you and and Laura missus Travis are 589 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: getting Shiatsu's and you run out in your robe on 590 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: the cell phone to call into the show. Clay, we 591 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: got it, buddy, don't worry about it. We're gonna have 592 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: it covered one way or the other. 593 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: I've never gotten a massage in my life. No, I've 594 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: never been in one of the I mean, I've obviously 595 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: stayed at hotels that have massage parlors or whatever you 596 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: want to call it. I've never been to a spa. 597 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: I've never gotten a massage, never had a pedicure, manicure 598 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: like hot wax treatment, any of that's I've never done 599 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: any of it. So I haven't even I've seen a 600 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: movies and TV shows and whatnot, but I've never had 601 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: any of that experience. I'm I'm honestly, I'm done. Here's 602 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: another good question of our audience. Has had a massage? 603 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about like the Robert Kraft style 604 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: massage where you pull up in a strip mall. I'm 605 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 1: talking about like a legitimate uh you know, like tissue 606 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: massage or whatever you want to call it. Oh, man, 607 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: I would guess half. I would you think people more 608 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: likely massage than golfed. 609 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: Oh? 610 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: I think I think probably more because remember the first 611 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: of all, the women women like getting massages to more 612 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: women like massages. 613 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: Sorry, I think most women have had a massage. At 614 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: some point, you know, yeah, Clay's moving the goal posts 615 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: and if we're going to mark down all these all 616 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: these crazy Clay predictions today even no goal post moving 617 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: on any of that, I can assure you, Clay. I 618 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: think that the way that most people get introduced to 619 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: massage is when they're on vacation. The spa is and 620 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, like, if you go to see 621 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: at this fancy place is a very nice place in 622 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: eastern Tennessee where you're going couple's massage, which is great. 623 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell I'm gonna text Laura and say 624 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: that she has to say you have to go get 625 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: a massage. You too need to go and do this. 626 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: You will love it. It is amazing. I'm not leading 627 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: you astray, but man, they're like it's expensive at these resorts, 628 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: for sure. They definitely That's one way they run up 629 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: the bill on you real fast. The spots treatment. Now 630 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm sending like a guy who spends a lot of 631 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: time in spos, which is not true. But I do 632 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 2: like a good massage. 633 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Our producer Ali just said again, congratulations to Ali. We 634 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: talked about this. She's back in and the studio after 635 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: having gotten married. She said, our new husband, Gerard would 636 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: give me a massage. He's excellent at it. I don't 637 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: want a man to touch me like that. Well, he's 638 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: professionally trained. Wait, professionally trained, I think I would. I've 639 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: never had a massage before. I think I would only 640 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: get one from a woman. I don't think I want 641 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: a man like rubbing all over me, but I don't 642 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: know what he usually gets. Even I always choose the 643 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: female masseuse. 644 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: I will tell you that even within massage officionado world, 645 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 2: there are guys who they they they think that you know, 646 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: they don't care, and there are other guys who only 647 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: like a lady massuse. 648 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 3: So a massur, I suppose would be the mail version. 649 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: So if I don't know, I have not had a 650 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 2: a massur, I've only gone massuse. 651 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: It's rare that my jaw drops when I look down 652 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: at the text exchange here and Ali is opening up 653 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: offering up her new husband to give me a massage. 654 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't I don't even know what 655 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: to say hardly to this this offering Ali. I mean, 656 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, she's rolling right in, like my husband will 657 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: just give you a massage, Like I don't know how 658 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: I feel about all this. 659 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: He's a professional, he's licensed, he's been and it's all true, 660 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: by the way. 661 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: But that's the thing, like. 662 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: It's I'm Clay, it is you're doing boxing, like you're 663 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: doing some physical activity these days. You know, I'm I 664 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: gotta we gotta text Laura. We have to tell missus 665 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: Clay Travis that you guys need a couple's massage in 666 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: eastern Tennessee and you need to report back. 667 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: And don't worry. I'm not gonna throw any keg parties 668 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 3: while you're gone. 669 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: If if they indict Trump, I'm gonna hop into the 670 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: fox hole and do everything I can to fight for 671 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: Trump and for for justice in America. You need to 672 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: go and drink some mint julips and get your shoulders rubbed, buddy, 673 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: That's what you have to do. 674 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm boxing three days a week now. One of the 675 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: best workouts there is. I love it. Never had the massage, 676 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: So now now I'm intrigued. Should I go get a massage? 677 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: And is it uncomfortable? And is it awkward? Do you 678 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: get asked of a male or female like how does 679 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: that work? 680 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: It's oh that part of a uh yeah, usually you specify, 681 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: but think of it like if you're rocky and mix 682 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: in the corner. He's like, get in there, rocket, He's 683 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: like pounding your shoulders. It's a little bit like that, 684 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: except more music with wind chimes, and you know you're 685 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: wearing like a tiny. 686 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: Towel, but it's very similar. I love that Buck is 687 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: just mister massage. He's out massages all the time. I've 688 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: really never been to one.