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Speaker 1: key from the twenty twenty three NFL Scouting Combined and

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Speaker 1: I'm very pleased to be part of a special roundtable today.

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Speaker 1: For the first time, we have not one, not two,

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Speaker 1: not three, but all four of the AFC South play

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Speaker 1: by play announcers together. Let me introduce you to them.

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Speaker 1: Mark VanderMeer is the only voice of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: You've been the guy since two thousand and two. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Mike. And you've been the only

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Speaker 1: voice of the Titans. Yes that's true. Yes, right, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Not the Oilers, but the Titans, which never the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Oilers. But since the Titans are sort of

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Speaker 1: well not sort of keeping the Oiler history, you don't

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Speaker 1: get to have that the station. It's all me, boys,

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Speaker 1: I'm the only guy in the league to have it

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Speaker 1: all right. Frank Franie is a Jacksonville legend, as he's

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Speaker 1: been involved in sports talk radio there for thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: Frankie is entering his tenth season as the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and you started in print. Yeah, I did

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Speaker 1: it in the first of a legend is a synonym

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Speaker 1: for old. Okay, So I'm the old guy, but you

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Speaker 1: went to Inglewood and everyday I'm Jacksonville guy. I was

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Speaker 1: a sports writer. I wasn't all that good at that,

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Speaker 1: so I got into the broadcast side, and yeah, I

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Speaker 1: stuff beforehand, and uh wound up this will be my

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Speaker 1: tenth year during the Jags game. So yeah, having a ball.

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Speaker 1: You and I have known each other since before Matt

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Speaker 1: Taylor was born. That's exactly right. Matt Taylor is the

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Speaker 1: youthful one in the group, the voice of the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: He is an Indie native. He played football at Franklin College.

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Colts since twenty eighteen. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: old Guy crew. And here's my question for you. Welcome.

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Speaker 1: When they put the three of us in a home

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Speaker 1: and you're still going strong, will you come visit. I

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Speaker 1: will come visit you. I'll make sure the jello is

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Speaker 1: the flavor that you went. Now, come on, now, that's okay,

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Speaker 1: three of us. Yeah, actually, broadcast in our hometowns. Wow. One,

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Speaker 1: it is an interloper, Okay, but there's a distinction here

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Speaker 1: as well. Right, I wasn't born in Texas, but got

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Speaker 1: there as fast as I could, which is a Texas expression. Right.

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Speaker 1: I have two sons born on Texas soil, which is

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Speaker 1: like marrying into the family. So my DNA has been

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Speaker 1: spliced properly of a Texan. There we go, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you don't say y'all. And I've never seen me in

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Speaker 1: an affectation for me to a degree. But I definitely

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Speaker 1: And when I hang out back on the East Coast.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the New York area, went to

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Speaker 1: come back and I sound like Jerry Seinfeld. Well metal

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Speaker 1: like this. So my wife, who is from Indiana, who's

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Speaker 1: and she says good morning, y'all, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and our Southerners by and saying y'all is actually required legally, legally,

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Speaker 1: so I even if you don't have something to say,

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Speaker 1: other announcers. Since his team won the AFC South this

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Speaker 1: past year, Frank Franie of the Jacksonville Jaguars, you go first, sir.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to know? And again I should

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Speaker 1: Don't you guys feel like the other? All right, so

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Speaker 1: you're you're playing Mike's team. We don't, but our teams are.

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Speaker 1: When they pulled Derrick Henry off the field on third down,

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Speaker 1: I'm terrified when I see Derrick Henry. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the most terrifying players. As a play by play announcer,

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Speaker 1: When when I see Derek Hemp will first and second

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Speaker 1: of buzz around here that the Will Levis thing is

422
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Speaker 1: going up, that people are meeting with him, that they

423
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Speaker 1: are excited about his size, that he's pro ready, that

424
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: he's a very grown up guy. And of course everybody's

425
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 1: who's the next Josh Allen? Throw that out the window.

426
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Speaker 1: What somebody said to me last night, which I thought

427
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Speaker 1: was interesting, is Will Levis the next Matt Ryant In

428
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Speaker 1: that at Boston College. The knock on him was he

429
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: threw way too many interceptions, but the Falcons obviously saw

430
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 1: he played with nobody in terms of skill. People is

431
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: Will Levis the next Matt Ryan. And let's face it,

432
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean Matt Ryan didn't do as much for the

433
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Speaker 1: Colts as you would have wanted him too. But that's

434
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Speaker 1: a guy who had a great career. I mean, if

435
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Speaker 1: you can have thirteen years of what he gave the Falcons,

436
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I think any of us would take that

437
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: and in a heart pack. Yeah, because you build around him,

438
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: you build around that quarterback. But with Levis, I think

439
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: with all the quarterbacks, it looks like, and this is

440
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: just from where we sit right now, it looks like

441
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young is the one guy that you could probably

442
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Speaker 1: start opening day as far as his knowledge base, the

443
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: way he carries himself, the way he leads, and maybe

444
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: Stroud too, but maybe they all could or maybe none

445
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: of them could, right, And obviously there are knocks on

446
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: Young with the size and whatever that's gonna mean. Overall, eventually,

447
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: it's such an inexact thing since Trevor Lawrence. We haven't

448
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Speaker 1: had that number one overall pick who everyone feels really

449
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Speaker 1: great about because he has everything. This is your guy, yeah,

450
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: because he has everything. And look not that it's taken

451
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: a long time, but people lose patience quickly, you know.

452
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: A year and a half in it's like, is this

453
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Speaker 1: gonna work or not? Then the last half season, my gosh,

454
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: it took off your question about loves. I don't love Levis.

455
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: He's big and strong, but that's your answer. And maybe

456
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: because all because all my SEC guys they're on me.

457
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 1: When when I told a friend of mine covers the

458
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: SEC this last night because I knew it would set

459
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Speaker 1: him off, he's like, well, Levis, did you see that

460
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: guy play? Well, you know, Jesus Levis, you know they're

461
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: doing all this hate talking to him, Like but remember

462
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: you're talking about translating. And he certainly looked better in

463
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one when he had that old line right,

464
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: and Rodriguez played well and the he had receivers, And

465
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: you're right, we know the book on all the guys.

466
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Speaker 1: Um Richardson and Levis have the traits but didn't play great.

467
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: Bryce Young is fantastic on every but he's tiny, and

468
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Speaker 1: c J. Strout had all the great receivers. We know

469
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Speaker 1: the rabbit with the knock on all of them. I'll

470
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Speaker 1: tell you this and where I was going with this, Mike,

471
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: I did. We had an off week, so I did

472
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Speaker 1: Ohio State Maryland, so I got to see c J. Strout.

473
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Speaker 1: It seems like no one's talking about him. They're talking

474
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Speaker 1: about how little Bryce Young is. He's great but little.

475
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Speaker 1: Everybody knows the traits with Richardson and Levis, but they

476
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: didn't play great. It's almost like you get in a

477
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: conversation about the quarterback CD strous the last guy to

478
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: come out, No, no, no matter who you talking, he's

479
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: the last of the four. Man. I think he's really good. Yeah,

480
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean really watch that Georgia game and that's the one. Yeah,

481
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: And I and I'm thinking people aren't. Maybe it's because

482
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: all the great receivers and they're better than everyone covering.

483
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Speaker 1: Then maybe it's because of the failures of past Ohio

484
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: state quarterbacks. I think he's really good and he's accurate.

485
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Baller talked at the combine, you know,

486
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Speaker 1: during his press conference, and you know, who knows this

487
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: might be GM speak. It probably is, but I'm not

488
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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but I'm not so sure if you need

489
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: to go from four to one to get a difference maker,

490
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: to get a franchise quarterback, right, maybe maybe, just may

491
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, take the risk of sitting it four and

492
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: getting the guy that can transform your franchise. But listen,

493
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating because there are I don't think there's

494
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Speaker 1: the Andrew Luck. I don't think there's the Trevor Lawrence

495
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: in this draft class. They all come with a little

496
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: bit of hitches and things like that. But we'll see

497
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: how this all goes. With the Colts. I think they're

498
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: two next year, two in Caleb Williams and Drake May.

499
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: I think there's two of them next year that could

500
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence types. And you wonder will there be

501
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: some people who look like they could take one, like

502
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: Las Vegas or Carolina, who say, you know what, We'll

503
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: sit back and see what the problem with that is.

504
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: You can't guarantee a bad season can't get start. If

505
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: you start doing that, you're unemployed. It's awful because you

506
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: can't have the We get a lot of grief for

507
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: beating the Colts in the regular season finale, and I'm thinking,

508
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: what do you want the coaches and players to do? Right?

509
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: And then you know, Johnny Harris and I do a

510
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: lot of shows together Texans Radio, and he keeps talking

511
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: about next year. But I say, last year you were

512
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: talking about this year with Bryce Young and c J Strout.

513
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: So how long do I have to wait for eternity?

514
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: Just when you happen to have the number one, I've

515
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: suffered through another four win season. You don't you don't

516
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: want to do that. It's still a business. It's a

517
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: competitive business. You've got to win games. You don't want

518
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: to keep firing coaches. And I think you got to

519
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: find your guy. And I think Demiko as Demiko Ryans

520
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: as the proper attitude here, which is, look, I just

521
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: came from San Francisco, where we were down to zero quarterbacks. Okay,

522
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: we're playing mister irrelevant and he played pretty well. And

523
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, the Texans had t J. Yates playing

524
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: rookie third quarterback in came into the game at Jacksonville

525
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: and did pretty well and they actually won their first

526
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: ever playoff game with him. And look, no one wants

527
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: that situation. You never know how it all plays out.

528
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: Look at Jail and Hurts going to the super Bowl

529
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: doing what he did and he's not a first round guy.

530
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: There are so many different ways to get this done.

531
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: And I think that's where the imagination comes in coaching

532
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: all of it, because we all agree it's chemistry. It's

533
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: a situation that they have to be in and around.

534
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: They got to show those traits and then they have

535
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Speaker 1: to flourish. I always think with the draft, no matter

536
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: what the position, the hardest thing to identify, and I

537
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: love asking coaches and GM's about this is how do

538
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: you tell if a guy wants to get better and

539
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: we'll put in the work to get better. And I

540
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: think that goes for anything in life. You know, salespeople,

541
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: whatever the profession is, how do you tell whether a

542
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: guy is going to get better? Because they all got

543
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: to get better. Whoever you at. Trevor Lawrence had to

544
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: get better and he's doing it now. You have to improve.

545
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: And that's the trait that the Colts want more than anything. Right,

546
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: if they're going to draft a quarterback at one or

547
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: four or whatever, you know, not knowing the future of

548
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, and if C. J. Straus is going to

549
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: be able to make off schedule throws or I Will

550
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: Levis is going to be able to have the mobility,

551
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. They want the guy that

552
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: is obsessed with football, that gets better, that makes everybody

553
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: in the huddle better. That's the trait they want the best.

554
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: And that's why I think, or the most, I should say,

555
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: but that's why why the combine for the Colts is

556
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: so important. To have these fifteen minute conversations, to have

557
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: the top thirty visits later, go to the pro days,

558
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: see how the guys look and interact with teammates on

559
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: the field. That's the trait they want the most, and

560
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: what they cove it the most is just be a

561
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: good guy, obsessed with football. Leader of men. We know

562
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: we can work with everything else and get better along

563
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: the way, but you have to be just obsessed with

564
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: this game and turning the Colts around. Okay, so I'm

565
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna skip you, Frank, because we took a lot of

566
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: time on that. I love you ask the questions I

567
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: want to ask Mark Vandamir of the Houston Texans to

568
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: this question. The Titans are unveiling oiler uniforms this year.

569
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: If the Titans wear the oiler uniforms against the Texans,

570
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: will there be any sort of reaction from the Texans?

571
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: Will be a reaction? All right? You think? Yeah? Because

572
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: all right, so the Columbia blue do you still call

573
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: it Columbia blue? And we say Titan blue? You say

574
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: Titan blue, So you change the name of the blue,

575
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: but it's, you know, basically the blue that were blue.

576
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: We know what kind of blue North Carolina blue? Yeah,

577
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: it's that light blue. Well, it's funny because the Texans

578
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: have made it public that they're experimenting with uniform changes

579
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: possibly coming into play next year, and we'll see how

580
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: it goes. It's a process, and they've had a lot

581
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: of focus groups and they've actually put out a lot

582
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: of stuff that the fans have sent them, and some

583
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: of the stuff involves this. We call it h Town blue.

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Speaker 1: All right, and I've learned more about colors today. Oh,

585
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: our senior director of marketing put up all the blues

586
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: on a board that you know, Detroit, you know, the

587
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Honolulu Blue and Carolina Titans, and they're all kind of blue,

588
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: but they're all different. In fact, if you put the

589
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: Titan logo on the Detroit blue, it looks like the Titans.

590
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: It's hard for the eye to tell, but they're all

591
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: a little tiny bit different. The PMS color or whatever

592
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: they call it. Anyway, Texans have started to sell that

593
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Htown blue in gear, in merch, you know, T shirts,

594
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: long sleeve t shirts, jackets, along with the battle Red

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00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: and the Deep Steal Blue and the Liberty White. We

596
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: have to do how many colors do you get to have?

597
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: We have three Liberty White, Deep Steel Blue, battle Red.

598
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: And this would have blown up because the Htown blue

599
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: is really it goes back even before the Oilers. There

600
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: are things in Houston that have that blue on it,

601
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: like architectural structures and things like that, and it's a

602
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Houston color. So the Rockets have used it as well.

603
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: The Houston fans go nuts for this when they see

604
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: oiler he's on the Titans, and I know they did

605
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: a few years back, maybe ten years ago with the

606
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Speaker 1: ninety year Richie. Yeah, yeah, the Year of the l right,

607
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: and those were like the original Oiler uniforms that look

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00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: kind of like the Oiler uniforms that we grew to know,

609
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: but not quite. This will be a real kick. This

610
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: is gonna be the you think you think they will

611
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: react negatively, They'll they'll be it'll be jealous, it'll be

612
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: I you know, they left us. What are they doing?

613
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: You know the fan? You know fans, all right, they react,

614
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: Look fans, you don't make it on third down. They

615
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: go crazy. So and but it's good. You want them

616
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Speaker 1: to be, to be passionate. All we have is Teal

617
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Speaker 1: in black. I need fancy names. I do not have

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Speaker 1: fancy names from jar. That's my goal is something funky,

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Speaker 1: Jade Town, Jaguar. I mean that's what I've got. A change, Teal, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've got it. I'm marketing right now. I have to

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Speaker 1: All right, questions from Matt h Can I go a

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Speaker 1: different direction? Whatever you want? Strictly football? This is a

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632
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Speaker 1: go behind the Michael. Do you guys have been doing

633
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: this a long time? You guys have been to basically

634
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: every NFL stadium. Give me the best booth in the

635
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: NFL to call a game, give me the worst booth

636
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: to call a game, and your favorite visiting stadium to

637
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: call a game within the division. All right, I'll go Wait.

638
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Can can we just say two things first? To the listeners?

639
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: Booth and stadium are often different things. Right, you could

640
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: have a great stadium, but the booth could be terrible. Also,

641
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: even play by play announcers versus engineers. Right, are some

642
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: booths that I've really liked, Like Oakland was terrific as

643
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: far as the view. Once I'm sitting down Oakland was great.

644
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: The engineers hated. It's small. They go out in the hall. Yeah,

645
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: the equipments out in the hall the day. Yeah. Another one.

646
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: So there's there are different categories here, but go on, Frank, Yeah,

647
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: well no, I mean for the look of the game.

648
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: I love, love the Metal Lands met Life Stadium. You're

649
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: right there. It's a perfect look. It's clean, it's easy.

650
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: That's probably. I like the Patriots. I like even though

651
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: you're not near the other Patriots, so that I like.

652
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I like spread and and and those are my two

653
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: favorite worst booths in the history of organized sport. Is Washington, Yeah,

654
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: it's they. They actually should shut down the franchise because

655
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: of the broadcast. Wait wait, wait, it's been to Miami. Miami. Miami.

656
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: Miami's worse than Washington, the new Miami. It's not. It's

657
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: not worse. You're wrong, but I appreciate that. It's not

658
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: because Washington's low. It's low and bad is Miami? Okay?

659
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean, would all agree with that, but Miami glass

660
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: stand yes, opposite side, Yes, yes, yes, who's in the

661
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone too small? It's crazy. Bet.

662
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: My friends at the University of Tennessee got to play

663
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: in the Orange Bowl this year, and they called me,

664
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: they go, hey, can we get four across on the front.

665
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, you may not even be able to get

666
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: too alas somebody's got to stand. Well, here's what they did.

667
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: They got the booth next to them because there was

668
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: no national radio or something for that game, and so

669
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: they put the color commentator in another booth. They can

670
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: when they should be they should be out of the

671
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: league in my opinion, based on the booth. Yeah, and

672
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: you have to walk through that nightclub, yeah, to get

673
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: to the booth. Can I tell a New England booth

674
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: story real quick? So we're up there in two thousand

675
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: and three and we're playing and the head of the

676
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: company and it is a massive booth. You can get

677
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: twenty people in there, right, Yeah, I mean at least

678
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: in terms of size it is. So the head of

679
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: the company says that his nephews are fans of Tom Brady.

680
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: Can they come and stand in our booth? But there

681
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: are rights holders company and it's the president of the company,

682
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: so we gotta do it. So they've got press passes

683
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: and they're standing in the back of the booth and

684
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: they're very polite they were very very nice young man,

685
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: and it all worked brilliantly until post game they had

686
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: press credentials on and so they went to the Patriots

687
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: locker and asked Tom Brady for autographs as he was

688
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: coming out of the shower. Here's the thing. We're on

689
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: a plane going back to Nashville, just lost a tough game,

690
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: and we get this call. Larry Stone, who was running

691
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: our network at this time, gets it call about who

692
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: on your crew? So the Patriots complained to the NFL,

693
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: and our media relations guy, Robbie Bouren says, what is

694
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: this because he knows all of us, he's at that time,

695
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: he's worked with all of us for six years, and

696
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: he's like, who on your crew? Went down and got

697
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's autograph? And postgame we're like, we have no

698
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: idea what you're talking about. And so finally somebody with

699
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots came through. And this is before camera phone,

700
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: so nobody really took a picture of a so they

701
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: gave a description. It's like, oh no, and so we

702
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: explained the story and it does not satisfy the Patriots.

703
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't satisfy the NFL. It doesn't it doesn't satisfy

704
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: our people. It was and this went on for like

705
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: weeks where we're having to answer for this, and finally

706
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: we said call so and so, we're not taking a

707
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: call about it anymore. They were gonna find us for it. Yeah. Wow, Well,

708
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: thank goodness I'm here because Frank New England and guys.

709
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys about the Patriots booth,

710
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: but it is good in that all right. It's close, yeah,

711
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: but it's too low. It's because when the play, when

712
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: when you first got there, you're like, this is gonna

713
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: be awesome. When the players are standing on the sideline,

714
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: you your view is actually obstructed up until the numbers

715
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: on that end. So when somebody catches a pass on

716
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: the near sideline, you're like Cincinnati. It's kind of like

717
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: calling a three in basketball when they're in the corner

718
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: and you can't see if they're feed are behind the line.

719
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: You just gotta wait for the official to put his

720
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: hands up, right, I gotta wait for the official to

721
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: rule it a catch in order to call it correctly.

722
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: In New England, plus, you're right there with the fans,

723
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: so it's like Tommy Brady's the best quarterback half saw

724
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, that's making it on

725
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: the air. Back in the day, Bill Polian used to

726
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the relationship between Patriots, Patriots fans and Bill Pollian,

727
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: you guys know what about Yeah, it's really really good.

728
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: It really so Bill. Because of how big the booth was,

729
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Bill would actually sit in the booth and watch the game.

730
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: Uh because and then I don't know when they did it,

731
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: but they actually elevated the booth up a little bit

732
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: because the fans used to be literally right right right

733
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: there under you. Now they're maybe like five or six

734
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: feet under you. But they would they would throw stuff

735
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: in the booth and yell things. Obviously at Bill and

736
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: all those epic playoff games. I do have to share

737
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: this picture though, if we can zoom in on this,

738
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: that's Miami. No, this is I'm sorry, Frank. This is

739
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: two thousand, nineteen, week seventeen at Jacksonville. There's a torrential

740
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: rainstorm and it is raining in the booth. The third

741
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: game I ever did in ninety nine, the third game

742
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: I ever did. Yeah, there was water blowing into the booth.

743
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: We I mean, it's one of those funny things that

744
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: happens in Florida where you get a storm right over you,

745
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: so and and the what and it blows all my notes. It.

746
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I did the whole second half with Pat

747
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: Ryan and we had nothing because they had no game

748
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: programs left. Fortunately was a division team, so you knew

749
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: him pretty well. Yeah. Yeah, we try and drench the

750
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: visiting past. Yeah, this is it's all psychological. It's about

751
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: an hour before the bus ride to the stadium in

752
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, I get a call from the PR guy says, yeah,

753
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: it's raining in your booth. I said, it's raining in

754
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: our booth. What does that mean? So we we bring

755
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: towels from we still towels from the hotel stod Yeah. Yeah,

756
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: so there's the rain bucket catching water and so we're

757
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: this This area here was not even used during the game.

758
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: So we call the game from like where the engineers

759
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: say up above. Um. So that's that's my horror story

760
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: on it. Well, you know, the best do a game

761
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: is Nissan Stadium because it's low right, and because you're

762
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: not obstructed by the fans, and because you're on that

763
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty five area, you can see the

764
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: whole field. It's good. It's good, but it's better. All right,

765
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's better Joe Jacksonville. But in the middle it's a

766
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: better view because all right, Tennessee's bad. I'm not saying

767
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: it's bad. But do you come into our booth and

768
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: steal snacks every time you come? How are you talking us?

769
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: Say something nice about us, whether you want to or not.

770
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: I do, I know it hurts you. I do. I

771
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: do think the booth is pretty good. But the problem

772
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: is when they're off to the right end of the field,

773
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: when they get inside the twenty, it gets a little

774
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: now the yard line the pot when they pile on,

775
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm like seventeen or that. Yeah, it's a little him on.

776
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you well, you guys said the best booth

777
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: or with the biggest booth was the Patriots. But I

778
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: like Dallas. Dallas is a wonderful I don't like the view,

779
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: but the booth that's the bathroom. Yeah, but you know,

780
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: it's like in Los Angeles, though, where you have to

781
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: call part of the game off the jumbo tron because

782
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: they're parts of the field you can't see. I don't

783
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: have a problem in Dallas because the height of it,

784
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh, is long. I don't mind being in the

785
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: corner if I'm high up. If I'm low like Miami

786
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: or Washington, that's a real disaster in Pittsburgh. I tell

787
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: you a quick story, but I was doing college games.

788
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: Do you remember, and you probably remember this, when when

789
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: LSU won the national title under less miles. Okay, they

790
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: beat Auburn in a game, Mike, you may remember this.

791
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: At the end of the game, there's like nine seconds left.

792
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: They should have kicked the forty yard field goal to win,

793
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: but instead he ran a play and they hit a

794
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: touchdown on the left corner. Did you remember this play?

795
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: They hit a touchdown left corner of the end zone.

796
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: It was a dumb call, but with one second left,

797
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: so they win the game. Well, I'm doing the game

798
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: with Touretto, and I'm in the right corner. I'm in

799
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: the high I'm in the right corner at Baton Rouge.

800
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: I can't see it. We're so far right, I can't

801
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: see it. It is the biggest, the biggest game of

802
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: the year in college football. And I'm doing radio and

803
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: and and they dropped a throw at the left corner

804
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: of the end zone. I mean, I can't see anything.

805
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking now, I got a decision to make. Okay,

806
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: this is the biggest play of the year in college football,

807
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: and and and so and and the only time I've

808
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: ever done this in my life and all the years

809
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: to play. I guess what. I saw the fans jump up,

810
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: uh huh and I and I said, touchdown LSU, having

811
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: no idea whether it was a touchdowns, but I saw

812
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: the fans up number one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I said,

813
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: and you and yeah, you always wait for it, but

814
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: I just I did, and it was a touchdown. I

815
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I said, what would that have done

816
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: to my career if it wasn't? You know what I mean?

817
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: And the play that big first thought wasn't thank you Jesus? Yeah? Yeah,

818
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, how many do you guys use binoculars to

819
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: call the game? I don't, I do not. You do? Yes,

820
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Like every play, every play, every play, every play in

821
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Texans history has been done with binoculars. Yeah, I mean

822
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: every single one. I will not do it play without it.

823
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: For me, it's identifying the running back first foremost. I

824
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: gotta get in there. I gotta like I'm used to

825
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: call in basketball, which I always thought was my best sport.

826
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: I think I'm finally and I'm not joking here. I'm

827
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: finally getting to a level of football where I feel

828
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: like it equals what I did in basketball, because I

829
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: did hundreds of basketball games in the nineties and felt

830
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: really good about my basketball call after a while, put

831
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot into it. And when I got to the NFL,

832
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: and I was doing football obviously at a high level

833
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: in college at Miami and everything, but the reps you

834
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: don't get as many, you know, because it's once a

835
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: week and everything, and you know, it's not the same

836
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: when you're calling it off TV or even a practice

837
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: sort of under your breath. And I feel like I

838
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: finally get there, but I gotta get in there. I

839
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: want to see it tight. And yeah, you can recognize

840
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: body types and everything, but especially for defense, you know,

841
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: tackles are sometimes the rumor. You know, we always have

842
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: debates on how to properly call a tackle because sometimes

843
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: like big pile, like you know, Johnny will give me

844
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: something in Q and that'll be one of the guys

845
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, and who knows who they're gonna give it,

846
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: and you see it differently. Yeah, I might see it differently,

847
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: but you know, I'll be like among the tacklers, you know,

848
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like name a couple of guys because

849
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody made the effort to get over

850
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: there and somebody got them low and somebody got them high,

851
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: you want to mention both guys, and you never quite

852
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: know because you don't know who got there, like separating

853
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: combined sacks, right exactly, because the only way you can

854
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: tell in many of those k who got there first

855
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: is to replay, and we don't. We don't have time.

856
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: So quick story about that because I'll take the betime that. Now,

857
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: take time quick story about that first game in Texans

858
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: history playing the Cowboys. Son that I have have football. I mean,

859
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: it's monumental. Right, you're back in Houston five years no

860
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: football Texans Cowboys couldn't be bigger. They've got the lead,

861
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Quincy Carter in the end zone sack and Gary Walker

862
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: gets up. He and Seth Pain get there at the

863
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: same time. It's bang bang. Gary Walker gets up and flexes,

864
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like Gary Walker with the sack. They gave

865
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: it to Seth Paine and Seth's still on the air

866
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: every morning in Houston, and I'm like, Sorrygize every time

867
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: I see him, I've actually played the highlight and I

868
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: edit out the name Sack. We're good. We're good with that.

869
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: My my motto and journalism is went in doubt, be vague.

870
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: You can't be wrong when you're vague. It's so what

871
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: I want to know from each of you is is

872
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: favorite game. Now. It doesn't have to be like the

873
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: year we went to the championship game, Mike, not that,

874
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: because I've got a favorite and I'll tell you what

875
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: it is in a few moments, But favorite game you've

876
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: done where it was just so satisfying, but it's kind

877
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: of under the radar, like a lot of fans might

878
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: not really acknowledge it as such, but to you it

879
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: meant so much being part of the organization and everything

880
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: we do. Okay, I'll give it to you quick. Two

881
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen playoffs going to New England and ending the

882
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady Bill Belichick ing by beating them there, especially

883
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: because we had never won there and almost ten years.

884
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: It was ten years earlier they had beaten us their

885
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: fifty nine to nothing in a situation where it dropped

886
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: us to owen six going into the bye and it

887
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: was it left us not only was it a horrible day?

888
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: But it snowed that day in October and we didn't

889
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: have coach or anything because it was supposed to be sixty.

890
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: It was bizarre. And to win that game, and you

891
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: were talking earlier about Tommy Brady, you know, to see

892
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: those folks leaving and to know that they knew it

893
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: was over. Yeah, I whipped up that I would have too, Mike.

894
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: That is my dream to win in Foxborough against Brady,

895
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: and it won't happen because he's done, I think, and

896
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: that that had to be satisfied because we've all been

897
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: in New England and they play that Josie's on a

898
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: vacation and I just want to like it. With three

899
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, we have the lead final minute and

900
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, even if they drive down the field and

901
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: score here, they're not gonna play that song because you

902
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: know they're not gonna be avoided the song. No, but

903
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: they score Brady to Brandon Cooks with like thirty five

904
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: seconds left and they got the song, and so Lax

905
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: out there and I just want to strangle him. Well,

906
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: they didn't get to play it that night. Yeah, Frank,

907
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: mine's not under the radar. I'd love to give you one.

908
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: It's not it was this year because trailed the Chargers

909
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven nothing. Twenty seven not this franchise that hasn't

910
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: done anything. We had one winning season in the last

911
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: fourteen years. We finally win the division. Uh in large

912
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: parks of the divisions struggle, but we went win all

913
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: these games and finally it's at night, it's on national TV,

914
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: everybody's paying attention, and you get down twenty seven nothing,

915
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, that's kind of a shame. Your

916
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: last goal was fantastic and we lost. Thank you for that,

917
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that, Mike, But it's twenty seven nothing,

918
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're watching it and Basselli.

919
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: Basselli goes, you know, if you can score here at

920
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: the end of the half, make it twenty seven seven.

921
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: You got a chance, Okay, log him and are like, Logan,

922
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: that's just something, and log him and like look just

923
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: looking at him, just looking at him, like really, well,

924
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: let's go at the end of the half. And when

925
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: they came, when when he lines up for the field goal,

926
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, Mike, I'm thinking, God, would be a

927
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: shame if he misses this. After all this. Yeah, that's

928
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of make him make this okay, I

929
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: mean just all you know, because all this stuff and

930
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching it and I and I don't when that

931
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: kick went through and they had won the game and

932
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: we lost our mind in the call. I think it's

933
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: the most exhilarated I've ever felt in my career. It's far.

934
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: It's just exhilarated. Yeah, that's all. It was the most exhilarated.

935
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That was a and I get chills telling

936
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: you guys the story about it beating the Chargers thirty

937
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: one thirty on the last play again. Yeah, uh, favorite

938
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: moments so far? What had to have been? Mean, there's

939
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: a Patriots theme here, but the Colts prior to last

940
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: year twenty twenty one, had not beaten the Patriots since

941
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and there had been a lot

942
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: of um AFC playoff games in that mix. You know

943
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: that the deflate game was in there, Tom Brady, you

944
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: know the history of Bill Belichick, so so on and

945
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: so forth. But it's a it's a flex game late

946
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: in the year, like weeks sixteen, weeks seventeen, right before Christmas,

947
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: got flex to Saturday Night so it's a standalone game,

948
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: primetime game at Lucas Oil Stadium. Uh, Colts get off

949
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: to the good start. They're up by ten. Then it

950
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: gets down to three points late in the game and

951
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, you know, Carson Wentz is thrown for

952
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: like fifty yards in the game. It's like, we know

953
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: they're going to give the ball to Jonathan Taylor. Can

954
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: they get enough first downs? Can they eke out the

955
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: clock and win this game and hold on? They get

956
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: the ball, like at the forty yard line, Colts in

957
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: their own territory handed off to Jonathan Taylor. Boom gone

958
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: sixty five yards for a touchdown. The place is going berserk.

959
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: It was huge for the Colts playoff chances for the moment. Obviously,

960
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: I came, you know, a crashed and burned reach seventeen

961
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: and eighteen. But to that point, everybody thought, okay, getting

962
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: off to a slow start record wise, really kind of

963
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: you find some momentum, string together, some wins, beat the Patriots.

964
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: The place was going nuts. You know, my call was

965
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: just like electric, I'm standing up and making sure I

966
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: don't mess it up. You know, Jonathan Taylor's like looking

967
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: back at the guy in real time. You know, do

968
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: I score? Do I go out of bounds? You know,

969
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: do I just go down? He's that fast and that

970
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: good and processing all that information in real time, and

971
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: so trying to incorporate that in the call was challenging,

972
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: but you know, the place was nuts, and that was

973
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: probably my favorite game or favorite call so far. My

974
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: favorite game though, was the playoff game in two eighteen

975
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: and and it has nothing to do with the Texans.

976
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: You know, that was the year I was an interim guy.

977
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: In eight and eighteen, I was the interim guy, so

978
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm basically doing two jobs at once and just going

979
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: through a lot of personal anxiety. But that game was

980
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: a Saturday, I think it was a Saturday night game. Friday.

981
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: Before we take off, I get pulled into an office

982
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: and they say, you know, we're ripping the tag off you.

983
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: You're the guy. W So getting a call my first

984
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: playoff game with like the pressure off, the anxiety off,

985
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of having like that free mentality to short, be myself,

986
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: not worrying if I'm doing the job good enough for

987
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: someone else, right, So that one was just like mentally

988
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: freeing and just exciting to be a part of well

989
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: and That's a good lead into my favorite game because

990
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: it tells the story or part of the story about

991
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: the Cults domination over the Texans, right, And there's no

992
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: other team that has been able to do this to

993
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: the Texans. Even though the Texans are an expansion team.

994
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: You would expect some struggles and everything. Tennessee's got a

995
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: winning record against the Texas, but but look, even the

996
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: last two years, we've beating the Titans twice in Nashville

997
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: each of the last two years. That's pretty cool. Jacksonville

998
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: obviously had some success against Jacksonville, but the Cults are

999
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: the all time nemesis. And it goes back to the

1000
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: RCA Dome, which no longer exists, which don't at me

1001
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: were oh this is where it was. This was the

1002
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: loudest building in the NFL. I look, I've been to

1003
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: them all like you guys have, and I don't know

1004
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: how you feel, Mike, but that place was unbelievably loud, small,

1005
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: Dwight Freeny and Robert Matthis coming off the edge, Manning

1006
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: just inflicting terror on everybody. It was. Look, the Texans

1007
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: were never able to win here until twenty fifteen, and

1008
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: in that season Houston was two and five, had two

1009
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: massive blowout losses going nowhere, everybody's gonna get fired. It's awful.

1010
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: And beat the Titans to go to three and five.

1011
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: And then Monday night football at Cincinnati. They're undefeated and

1012
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: somehow Houston wins and it's ten to six. That's the

1013
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: score of the game. T J. Yates comes off the bench.

1014
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: He had beaten the Bengals in twenty eleven on the

1015
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: road end in the playoffs. I mean it was like

1016
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: the stuff of legend, and I had a nice call.

1017
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: He threw the ball to Hopkins. Anyway, later on that season,

1018
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: because it's quarterback carousel, we're down to our fifth guy.

1019
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Uh it's really Yates is the fourth guy. He gets

1020
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: hurt at Indy and then Brandon Weedon has to come

1021
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: over a few weeks Earliers playing for the Cowboys. He

1022
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 1: comes in, throws a touchdown pass to Jail and Strong.

1023
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: They win sixteen to ten. That was my favorite win

1024
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 1: other than late, you know, winning playoff games and things,

1025
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: but that is the most satisfying. Thirteen. I walked down

1026
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: on the booth. I was like, this is amazing, amazing

1027
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: to beat the Colts and the Texans won the division

1028
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: that year after starting to win five. So that's mine.

1029
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: This is good. We gotta do this every year. Yeah,

1030
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: we do because we could go four to five hours. Yeah,

1031
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is good stuff. Matt Taylor from

1032
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: the Colts, Mark van Deimir from the Texans, Frank Franjie

1033
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: from the Jaguars, my afc Seff played by played Brethren. Um,

1034
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you all, Thank you Missus Parson bringing

1035
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: us together. And you've been listening to a special O tea.

1036
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Show where the legends go. Everybody

1037
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: knows it's our house, fighting for Tennessee, making us to

1038
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: read great missus means to be