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Speaker 1: That is Kamala's favorite phrase. In case he did not know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we can find a super cut somewhere of

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Speaker 1: her saying that all the time, a phrase that she

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Speaker 1: I've never heard someone talking about what can be unburdened

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Speaker 1: rest of it. She is making her first public appearances.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to cut eight here. Team Here she is

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Speaker 1: the VP saying, it's a rollercoaster, mixed but we love

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Speaker 2: Know it's been a rollercoaster and we're all filled with

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Speaker 2: so many mixed emotions about this. I just say I

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Speaker 2: we all do, and we have so many darn good

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Speaker 2: that this team is the team will be the reason

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Speaker 1: She is cringe inducing even when she's saying things that

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Speaker 1: of those clips later is a great politician. No one

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Speaker 3: That it is so weird in the political sphere to

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Speaker 3: the ticket. Joe Biden is kicked to the curb doesn't

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Speaker 3: we have to figure out who she's going to pick

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Speaker 3: as vice president. This happens all the time in sports.

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Speaker 3: That's the only analogy I can think of. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: Here's what I see, Clay, if you have a future

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Speaker 2: You know, as many of you know, before I was

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Speaker 2: In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.

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Speaker 2: For their own game. So hear me when I say

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Speaker 1: All right? Now, put aside the like that thing. I

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Speaker 3: too soft on crime. She used to be right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: If she does, I think that's a devastating CounterPunch from Trump. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think with Kamala, yes, are there people out there

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Speaker 1: On the front Lines of Truth, we mentioned Kamala harris

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Speaker 6: What can be?

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Speaker 2: What should be unburdened by what has been? What can

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Speaker 2: What can be unburdened by what has been, unburdened by

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Speaker 6: There are those who are unable to see what can be,

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Speaker 1: I mean, she could also just say the past doesn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I sit here, and I honestly, it's the kind

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Speaker 1: And I think that that speaks very much to the

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Speaker 1: think that the Kamala Harris decision is going to go

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Speaker 3: Here's my concern on Kamala. They ran the Biden basement

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how active she's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: They've been hiding Kamala Clay as the VP really for

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Speaker 1: the last four years. They've tried, they've tried again and

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Speaker 1: again to make her the heir apparent, to make her

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Speaker 1: the next big thing in Democrat politics, and it has

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Speaker 1: been She's a clay, She's a laughline. She's been a

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Speaker 1: point of mockery for the Biden team for years now.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So I get it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think she can rest on her laurels. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any laurels.

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Speaker 3: She's gonna show up and deliver the speech that they

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Speaker 3: wrote for her well in Chicago. They're going to roll

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Speaker 3: out all of the Democrat heavyweights to talk about what

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Speaker 3: a genius she is for four straight days. Then they're

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Speaker 3: going to have at least one debate, and she's not

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Speaker 3: going to basically die on the stage like Joe Biden did.

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Speaker 1: And they're all going to line up on.

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Speaker 3: MSNBC and CNN and they're going to talk about what

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Speaker 3: an incredible intellectual heavyweight she is and how there was

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Speaker 3: no comparison at all against Trump, and they are going

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Speaker 3: to hammer home any criticism of her as sexist and racist,

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Speaker 3: which is what every DEI Hied does, and she is

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Speaker 3: the ultimate DEI Higher. They are going to simultaneously convince

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Speaker 3: all of their emotionally fragile base, many of whom are

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Speaker 3: young women, that Trump is going to knock on their

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Speaker 3: door and drag them out by their hair if they

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Speaker 3: get accidentally pregnant, and that a handmade's tail is going

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Speaker 3: to become the real life I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 1: What they're gonna run.

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Speaker 3: Oh and they're cocky, because fuck in twenty twenty, Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden was a joke. But they picked him and they

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Speaker 3: ran that campaign and they dragged Joe Biden across the

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Speaker 3: head line, as you pointed out to me, So they

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Speaker 3: did have a very valid Can I just say, Clay,

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Speaker 3: you're talking about the messaging and you're and you're right.

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Speaker 1: I can't you know, I'm not just going to counterpoint

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Speaker 1: Clay for the sake of it, right. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: right about how they're gonna position Kamala, and you're also

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think this is obvious that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: start already. They have to get the Oh my gosh, Kama,

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers. Yeah, I already out there now

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Speaker 1: Reuter's IPSOS poll. It's making the rounds. I've got to

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Speaker 1: dig into it a little bit more to make sure

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Speaker 1: this is legit. But they're saying Harris forty four, Trump

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Speaker 1: forty two in registered voters as of yesterday. That's the

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Speaker 1: first I told you, this is what they're going to find.

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Speaker 3: A couple of course, the momentum has flipped they're gonna say,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Tell you right now, I don't believe it. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe it. Sorry, I don't. I don't see it. And

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Speaker 1: now you're gonna have me saying do we trust the polls? No,

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Speaker 1: when the polls have shown the Democrat is going to

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Speaker 1: get absolutely destroyed and now they have a new candidate

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Speaker 1: and they can completely shape perception as they see fit

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Speaker 1: based upon the polling that they do. Do I trust

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Speaker 1: the polls right now?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to look very closely at them and ask

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions about how who they're uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Because Clay, if they don't convince people that Kamala is

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Speaker 1: in this thing in the next two weeks, it's basically

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Speaker 1: over right correct. So so, I mean, do you think

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Speaker 1: they're going to just see the presidency to Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: They're going to tell you that Kamal has taken the lead,

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Speaker 3: that this is a brilliant strategic move that just preparing

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Speaker 5: I'm Drinking my Crocket coffee right now. I bet a

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Speaker 5: lot of you are like both of us in that

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Speaker 5: the new cycle has been so chaotic that it's hard

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Speaker 5: you have you feel like you have to keep your

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Speaker 5: head on a swivel. I'm not sure we've ever seen

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Speaker 5: a twenty five or twenty six day period where there

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Speaker 5: has been more unbelievable chaos from the debate, which never

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Speaker 5: happens this early, to the pressure on what's going to

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Speaker 5: happen with Biden, the attempted assassination on Trump, the RNC,

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Speaker 5: Biden drops out, Kamala Harris is now in charge.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen Biden in nearly a week. And if

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Speaker 3: you're trying to keep up with all that, you have

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Speaker 3: to be up sometimes late at night. We barely slept

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Speaker 3: last week during the RNC for all the war that

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Speaker 3: we were doing the amount of hours. And now I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting around here, I'm like, man, I need my crock

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Speaker 3: at coffee. I'm glad to have a coffee company, and

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Speaker 3: scary question that we were talking about off air. If

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Speaker 3: Trump had lost to Joe Biden in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: Biden had remained the nominee and Trump had lost, I

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Speaker 3: would have thought to myself, man, this is crushing. Trump

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Speaker 3: has now lost to basically a corpse in a presidential election.

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Speaker 3: But we saw it happen in twenty twenty. It would

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Speaker 3: be a replica, I actually think, and Biden is so

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Speaker 3: close to death. Basically you would have been voting for

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris anyway. But if Kamala Harris beat Trump, this

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Speaker 3: would be can you think of a more devastating defeat?

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Speaker 3: I mean, twenty twenty stunk, but because of COVID it

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Speaker 3: feels like to me the Watergate election, where the major

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Speaker 3: thing out there that doesn't have any that neither party

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Speaker 3: had any control over him. Because Trump was the incumbent,

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Speaker 3: it cut against him. This is pretty straightforward. Do you

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Speaker 3: think Biden and Kamala have done a good job? Do

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Speaker 3: you think Kamala Harris should be President of the United States? Straightforward?

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Speaker 3: If she meets Trump.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're.

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Speaker 3: In a serious, serious danger zone. I think as a country,

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Speaker 3: not only because it's it's Trump losing, but can you

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Speaker 3: imagine four years of Kamala Harris making every decision that's

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Speaker 3: the most important in the cum No It would make

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Speaker 3: me pine for the days of dementia Joe, honestly, because

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Speaker 3: at least there was like the sense that he couldn't

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Speaker 3: get that much done because he couldn't figure out where

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Speaker 3: he was or what he was doing. Kamala Harris might

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Speaker 3: be an enthusiastic chief Commissar. I mean, I would be concerned. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm putting this out there because I always leave open

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Speaker 3: the possibility that I'm missing something or that we are

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Speaker 3: missing something here.

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Speaker 1: Is Kamala Harris? I just put out a pole question.

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Speaker 1: Is she actually going to be formidable? Up to this point,

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Speaker 1: I've just thought she's such a you know, she was

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Speaker 1: a joke in twenty twenty in her own primary. She's

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Speaker 1: absurdly cringe in all her public performances and appearances. She's

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Speaker 1: been nothing but mocked the whole time she's Biden's vice president.

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Speaker 1: Are we missing something here? Is she going to be

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Speaker 1: a tough opponent for Trump to the point where she

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Speaker 1: could even win this election? It's possible. I know. I've

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Speaker 1: felt like the last you know, because I'm also I've

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Speaker 1: been thinking all along that Joe Biden is just a

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Speaker 1: better option for the Democrats than Kamala Harris, Well, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I need to reorient my thinking on that a

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Speaker 1: little bit, so I'm open to it. I think people

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Speaker 1: should call in and tell us if you think Kamala

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Speaker 1: is going to be formidable for Trump, tell us and

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Speaker 1: tell us.

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Speaker 3: Why my thought on how she would win. If I

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Speaker 3: were sketching out the battleground, tell me if you buy

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Speaker 3: into this thesis would be that the Biden voters one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent go to Kamala. That is, if you were

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Speaker 3: still supporting Biden at this point, you're basically just a

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Speaker 3: fan of the team, and you're going to vote for

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Party, the Capital D no matter who they

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Speaker 3: put in. So she retains that entire group. She somehow

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Speaker 3: motivates younger minority voters to turn out at a level

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Speaker 3: they would not have for Joe Biden. I'm sketching out

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Speaker 3: what a win for Kamala would look like. Trump in

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Speaker 3: some way does not maintain his appeal with independent voters,

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Speaker 3: and she just barely gets across the line, much like

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Speaker 3: Biden did in twenty I don't think there's going to

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Speaker 3: be some ground swell of Kamala's support, but that's kind

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Speaker 3: of in my head. The way that I would sketch

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Speaker 3: out what a Kamala victory would require.

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Speaker 1: If Kamala wins, then we don't live in the country

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Speaker 1: that we think we do politically anymore. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: If Kamala wins, it means any Democrat can win against

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Speaker 1: the most unified Republican party and the most energized Republican

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Speaker 1: party I've seen since nine to eleven. So what does

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Speaker 1: that tell you? I mean, it's anyway, you know what,

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Speaker 1: though I'm just leaving open the possibility, I still feel good.

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Speaker 1: I still feel very good because we were just saying

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to make it seem like Kamala's

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Speaker 1: right right neck and neck with Donald Trump in the

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Speaker 1: polls and everything else. In fact, right now they're saying

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Speaker 1: she's ahead in the popular vote. The popular vote doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter, it's just a snapshot. Well, I just told

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Speaker 1: you that, of air. The one thing that the odds

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Speaker 1: have moved on. Trump is still a big favorite to

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Speaker 1: win the election. Kamala is now a slight favorite to

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Speaker 1: win the national popular vote. Trump was favored to beat

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Speaker 1: Biden in the national popular vote. Now again, these odds

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Speaker 1: are constantly shifting, but that is the only real substantial

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Speaker 1: movement that has occurred since Kamala's elevation. You know, to

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Speaker 1: be fair, I think Biden was a horrible candidate in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty and look what happened. So we have to

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Speaker 1: leave open the possibility that anything is possible in the

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Speaker 1: terms of the outcome here, right, you can't eliminate And

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Speaker 1: I know they've raised what is it, eighty million dollars

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Speaker 1: or something for her, so they're going to have plenty

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Speaker 1: of money. It's not going to be an issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then the mainstream Democrat aligned media is going to do

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Speaker 1: everything they can up to and including debasing themselves, lying endlessly,

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes, because as I've said, Kamala's made and

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Speaker 1: I know I repeat this, but it is true. Her

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Speaker 1: her number one constituency is like corporate executives and media execs.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're on the board of GE or

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Speaker 1: you're on you know, you're you're a CNN senior decision maker.

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Speaker 1: You love Kamala Harris. That that's who has always been her,

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Speaker 1: her sort of chief who's So we'll see, we'll get

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Speaker 1: some more of them. We definitely take some calls on

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Speaker 1: this too, because I want to hear from some of

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Speaker 1: our people about how they're seeing it, and we'll look

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Speaker 1: at the latest numbers on this play. I would also

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Speaker 1: be curious, if you're in a battleground state and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to us right now, what reaction have you had

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Speaker 1: from people who are maybe independent voters. I look at

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Speaker 1: this and I say, if you're an older Biden supporter,

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Speaker 1: don't you feel like the way the Democrat Party treated

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Speaker 1: him is quite disrespectful. I feel like, if you're eighty

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Speaker 1: voted Biden in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan and you

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Speaker 1: were a kind of swing voter, don't you feel like

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris really kind of stabbed Joe Biden in the

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Speaker 1: back and they did him dirty. I have to feel

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Speaker 1: like there are some voters that are having that reaction.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to hear from some of you. Eight hundred

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