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Speaker 2: Yes, So today's episode Reality of the King. I'm there
Speaker 2: with the creata of all things fabulous and the best
Speaker 2: showing Bravo. I've been saying this for years, and y'all
Speaker 2: know it's true. Maritime Medicine. Give it up for my girl,
Speaker 2: my Queen Mariah hah, I'm ting for myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You look. First of all, you look amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you, so do you well?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Honey? You know I did take a bath today.
Speaker 3: I'm you look radiant, thank you.
Speaker 2: I'll watched my face with neutral Gina pink grape brute
Speaker 2: and you know I'm not on a zimpic, but I
Speaker 2: do love to like put things in my body to
Speaker 2: make sure the weight stays gone good.
Speaker 3: No, what is your secret?
Speaker 2: Because you look fantastic?
Speaker 3: Peace? Oh peace, I'm happy.
Speaker 4: I'm at peace and I think it radiates up in
Speaker 4: and out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: Where have you been because we miss here.
Speaker 3: I've been working. I'm a receptionist, a custodian.
Speaker 4: Like this was my you know, Sleek Studios was my
Speaker 4: next project.
Speaker 3: And you know, we know how it is. We're perfectionists.
Speaker 3: You want to work on something you wanted to be right.
Speaker 4: So I really I feel like the last four years
Speaker 4: and it took a little bit longer than I expected.
Speaker 4: I expect quarantine, COVID, all of these things.
Speaker 3: But I've been here.
Speaker 4: Like I really have, and I felt like God was
Speaker 4: telling me to be still and focus on this because you.
Speaker 3: Know, after going through.
Speaker 4: Married to medicine and doing production, I wanted to be
Speaker 4: able to create a canvas in a place in our
Speaker 4: own backyard where it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't a controlled environment. Shit, I wanted to be able
Speaker 3: to clown and cut.
Speaker 1: Up at my own.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, but I have to give you your flowers
Speaker 2: before we start this interview process, because carnations and roses.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Tell me what? Because you give all the girls flowers?
Speaker 3: Do I you do?
Speaker 2: Mm hm?
Speaker 3: I do love the girl you do? You do bad?
Speaker 4: It's not bad, but I love for you to be
Speaker 4: very distinctive in which type of flowers.
Speaker 3: You're giving who.
Speaker 4: Okay, because it's not the same type of garden nowadays.
Speaker 2: It you have Barry White's Secret Garden mixed in with
Speaker 2: eld Barge.
Speaker 1: Yes, a little sprinkle of that.
Speaker 2: I mean he did the best verse in the song
Speaker 2: you have a Garden. Because I don't know too many
Speaker 2: people that can say they created a franchise, Okay. And
Speaker 2: I want people to understand this. It's not like you
Speaker 2: have this idea and everybody around the production or the
Speaker 2: network had to cultivate it for it to make sense.
Speaker 2: I don't think people understand. You came up with the
Speaker 2: title married to Medicine, You cast all guys.
Speaker 1: She did all of this before even pitching to a network.
Speaker 2: You came up with the title you cast all the girls.
Speaker 2: You shot a sizzle reil, a sisor rel is a
Speaker 2: it's like a pilot episode to pitch the networks. You
Speaker 2: funded it yourself, You funded the treatment.
Speaker 1: Not too many, girl, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody personally who did it that way.
Speaker 3: Tell you actually what I did. Some of that is true,
Speaker 3: But let me just correct a couple of things. Okay,
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't just do a scissor reel.
Speaker 4: I had did multiple scissor rules and an extended one,
Speaker 4: and I did fund it.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 4: And the one thing I did not do is name
Speaker 4: it married to Medicine. Okay, So I had multiple casts,
Speaker 4: and I was already picked up on another network. I
Speaker 4: was picked up on TOC and I chose to go
Speaker 4: with Bravos. So I did picked up the Doctor's Wives Club.
Speaker 1: Doctor's Wives Club.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended up doing. And I chose to go with.
Speaker 4: Bravo because I felt like it was more succinct the
Speaker 4: base of who we.
Speaker 3: Were selling to, you know, the type of women we were.
Speaker 4: I just thought the Bravo audience was ours up and through,
Speaker 4: like that's where I wanted to be or whatever. So
Speaker 4: the only thing I didn't do was name it married
Speaker 4: to Medicine. I had multiple aim like we had unmedical doctors,
Speaker 4: wives club cast, all the women paid for had everything,
Speaker 4: had multiple multiple reels and it was.
Speaker 3: A lot of work.
Speaker 4: So there was no vanity title there because I busted
Speaker 4: my ass and it took me four years to get
Speaker 4: it picked up at multiple places. And of course once
Speaker 4: it got picked up at one place, all the networks
Speaker 4: came calling.
Speaker 1: Mm. Yeah, so a bidding war.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It literally was a bidding war. So
Speaker 3: what I was trying to do, you know, the girls
Speaker 3: get sneaky.
Speaker 4: So when it got picked up by Bravo and TLC,
Speaker 4: I said, listen, so our be on the one on
Speaker 4: Bravo and let me just do a different version of
Speaker 4: it on TLC. TLC said no, ma'am, if you're not
Speaker 4: on it, we don't want it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I was trying to do two different ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you want a two separate checks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted you multiple streams is the key.
Speaker 1: You're such a Libra all the through.
Speaker 3: I am too much of a Libra. We love multiple
Speaker 3: and we love balance.
Speaker 1: We do we love balance.
Speaker 3: We're off balance and throws us off. The pitching was.
Speaker 2: A lot the pitching was a lot, and obviously you
Speaker 2: created the show. It became a huge hit out the
Speaker 2: gate this season, I believe it's their tenth season.
Speaker 1: There's ten seasons.
Speaker 2: You still get a credit, you still get a check, Yeah, several.
Speaker 3: I have multiple credits, so.
Speaker 4: People don't watch at the beginning and the end, so
Speaker 4: I have the creative buy and executive producer credit. People
Speaker 4: don't watch, but if you watch all the way through,
Speaker 4: they do it so fast.
Speaker 3: They want my shit real fast. But I still get
Speaker 3: to two predacy. It's a big deal cause it's two
Speaker 3: separate roles, you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I get the EP and as well as
Speaker 4: creative by or.
Speaker 2: Kept concept by, and you get paid per episode.
Speaker 3: May you asking a lot of questions? I get a call,
Speaker 3: I get a.
Speaker 2: Que CA you're happy with the money you're receiving.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: I mean I don't think you can ever be paid
Speaker 4: your worth mm and so.
Speaker 3: No, I I don't think so. I think it's different
Speaker 3: when you're on a show, you know.
Speaker 4: I I feel like from a talent perspective, it almost
Speaker 4: felt like you know you were you could see the
Speaker 4: money a lot more. But I'm happy with what I've created,
Speaker 4: what I've built and jump being I it being a
Speaker 4: jumping board to all the other things I'm.
Speaker 3: Doing, you know what I mean. That's the way I
Speaker 3: have to look at it.
Speaker 4: I can't look at it as I should have been
Speaker 4: paid more than I just I don't get caught up
Speaker 4: in that because.
Speaker 3: I be a bit of bitch and I don't wanna
Speaker 3: be that. So no, I think I deserve a lot
Speaker 3: more money, you know. But I'm good. You're good, you good,
Speaker 3: and you and I've done a l I've done a
Speaker 3: lot more with a lot less.
Speaker 4: Mm, so imagine what I'm doing now.
Speaker 2: Well, well we can see that being in this studio
Speaker 2: from Marian Media.
Speaker 1: That is just super impressive.
Speaker 2: We t we spoke last year, so I won't regurgitate
Speaker 2: those same questions.
Speaker 1: But can you explain to the audience, those.
Speaker 2: Who may not have watched last year's interview, what happened
Speaker 2: to where you can create a show.
Speaker 1: Star on it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't wanna put words in your mouth,
Speaker 2: but where you pushed out of maritime medicine?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolute, I think so. I think my contract ran out,
Speaker 3: my cont just like.
Speaker 4: Many of the girls, My contract ran out from a
Speaker 4: talent perspective, cause I had multiple contracts, you know, the
Speaker 4: producer contract and the talent contract.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize in the beginning that was.
Speaker 4: The goal the entire time was to push me out
Speaker 4: from a talent perspective, cause you don't they don't ever
Speaker 4: want you to have too much power, you know, in.
Speaker 3: Front of the camera and behind the camera.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I did feel as if I was pushed out,
Speaker 4: But you know what, in hindsight, I feel like maybe
Speaker 4: it was best cause.
Speaker 3: I I don't think it was best for the show.
Speaker 4: M I think it wasn't a good decision for the show.
Speaker 3: And that's all I know. Was bullshit in the game,
Speaker 3: because it wasn't for the show. It wasn't best.
Speaker 4: I n there's no way they can come up with
Speaker 4: any reason why I should be out of the show
Speaker 4: where they come up with a line or you're on
Speaker 4: the island, or the girls aren't.
Speaker 3: Doing this, or the girls.
Speaker 4: Don't wanna hang with you. You know, they always do their
Speaker 4: they vote you out. You know, it's just it's all.
Speaker 3: Kind of a unscripted script. So yeah, I feel like
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: A bit pushed out prematurely, but I think it backfired
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways and I don't think it
Speaker 4: was best for the franchise, you know, And I I
Speaker 4: try not to honing in on it too much because
Speaker 4: the first thing they'll say, she's mad, And it's not that.
Speaker 4: I just don't like the way in which it was done.
Speaker 4: And I did feel as if I was stabbed in
Speaker 4: my back, my heart, my juggler, in my eye. I
Speaker 4: with with all of those ladies. I did you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not even mad at the producers. You can't let
Speaker 4: the devil use you. They had to have a vessel.
Speaker 4: And I felt like all of those ladies, yeah, cause
Speaker 4: they didn't have a reason. I'm not just I wasn't perfect,
Speaker 4: but I was damn good producer of amazing talent. So
Speaker 4: it just it didn't make sense. And we all would
Speaker 4: have got keep it. We would've kept getting cute coins
Speaker 4: cause I was always fair. They know that I was
Speaker 4: what what was best for the show. I will always
Speaker 4: say no, we we can't do this. I fought for em,
Speaker 4: all of.
Speaker 3: Us to have a MFN. On the talent side, there
Speaker 3: was no you get paid more, you the best.
Speaker 4: You d despite what people think it w I never
Speaker 4: had the attitude of I'm the queen b paid me
Speaker 4: the most.
Speaker 3: No, the talent.
Speaker 4: Side, everybody get paid the same, And as soon as
Speaker 4: I left, they went to war about that Jackie gets
Speaker 4: paid more than quad or this person gets See.
Speaker 3: I didn't want that.
Speaker 4: Cause I knew that there would always be a point
Speaker 4: of dissension, you know, because it's it's an ensemble cast,
Speaker 4: and every season somebody's gonna rise, it's gonna be focused
Speaker 4: on someone, and so you know, it's just everybody get
Speaker 4: a time to shine. So you know, I I think
Speaker 4: they did a lot of things to me that was
Speaker 4: it was very per it felt very personal, and it
Speaker 4: did feel a bit discriminatory, and nobody had my back.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I that that kind of left a bad
Speaker 4: taste in my mouth.
Speaker 2: You felt that because you're a black woman, there was
Speaker 2: some discrimination involved.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was because I'm a black woman,
Speaker 4: a woman, a strong woman, I don't know, but I
Speaker 4: I I I don't think it was normal. I don't
Speaker 4: think it makes sense and I cannot fathom to this
Speaker 4: day any.
Speaker 3: Of those women would go along with it.
Speaker 4: With how hard I had worked for all of us
Speaker 4: to be seen on such an amazing platform to be
Speaker 4: I just wanted us as black families. It's minority families
Speaker 4: to be seen as successful minority families. I mean, it
Speaker 4: seems very small, but it's you know, you don't see
Speaker 4: a lot of it on TV, and I just thought
Speaker 4: it was important for us to tell our stories. You know,
Speaker 4: it wasn't love and hip hop, and there's no offense
Speaker 4: in love and hip hop.
Speaker 3: Cause that's a part of our culture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this was just a different side that I
Speaker 4: know we needed to see, and it was certain things
Speaker 4: that was important to me. The education, the families actually
Speaker 4: being married to medicine rather it's the career or having
Speaker 4: someone in in in the field of medicine. I just
Speaker 4: felt like we needed to keep that connection to keep
Speaker 4: the credibility of the show.
Speaker 3: And I was really really s I M.
Speaker 4: I'm extremely passionate and sincere about that, and I wouldn't
Speaker 4: go back down. I didn't care the housewives had women
Speaker 4: that was no longer married. I didn't want that.
Speaker 3: For marriage to menadicine.
Speaker 4: No, not at all, and wrong or right or indifferent.
Speaker 4: I don't want that from married to medic because it's
Speaker 4: on every other show. I wanted to see married minority families,
Speaker 4: educated families because we exist now, we.
Speaker 3: Could be we not cases.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but we exist.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I just wanted it to stay true to that.
Speaker 2: There were accusations from the girls that you would say
Speaker 2: things to them like this show is called.
Speaker 1: Married to Mariah? Yeah, is that true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4: So but the other part of that that they're not
Speaker 4: seeing is all of the ladies knew that it wasn't them.
Speaker 3: I was at war, at war with.
Speaker 4: That I would say yes, married to Mariah, or they
Speaker 4: knew that I was fighting a much bigger.
Speaker 3: War behind camera. Whatever you saw on camera, the real
Speaker 3: real war.
Speaker 4: Was behind camera when the cameras went off, when the
Speaker 4: lights went off.
Speaker 3: So if I didn't tell my.
Speaker 4: Story, if I didn't call myself the queen be married,
Speaker 4: you know, married to Maria, people wouldn't even know I
Speaker 4: was an executive producer or creator of that show. Do
Speaker 4: you think those ladies would have told my story. I
Speaker 4: had to tell who I was and stand up in.
Speaker 3: The role I create, in what I created, cause.
Speaker 4: Nobody would have told my story if I would have
Speaker 4: went with.
Speaker 3: What they say, trust the process. If I would have
Speaker 3: trusted the process, it'll look like I would.
Speaker 4: Have been another doctor's wife that came in and out
Speaker 4: on that show, and they would have been happy with that,
Speaker 4: kind of like the critical race theory.
Speaker 3: They would have wiped me out of history if they could,
Speaker 3: and still try to.
Speaker 2: So the thing is this, when you were say those things, yeah,
Speaker 2: that wasn't towards the girl.
Speaker 3: They knew that. They knew that.
Speaker 4: I felt like they were being used, like don't come
Speaker 4: at me like that, you know what it is. And
Speaker 4: sometimes it was a little shady, ain't gonna lie. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it was shade, like don't do me, Like come on,
Speaker 4: cause I didn't have an issue with any of those ladies.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a reason to go up against them,
Speaker 4: but I felt like, why would they bring the extra
Speaker 4: Like why would.
Speaker 3: They be the ones to take me out.
Speaker 4: One of the women actually said to me, they want
Speaker 4: me to be the person to put the nail in
Speaker 4: your coffin.
Speaker 3: They want me to be the person to put the
Speaker 3: nail in your coffin.
Speaker 4: Another woman went to the pre production meeting and said,
Speaker 4: if I talked to Mariah, will I be fired from
Speaker 4: married to medicine?
Speaker 3: Facts? Will I be fired from married to medicine? So
Speaker 3: you have to understand what I was up against. And
Speaker 3: they all knew it.
Speaker 4: You know, they knew what it was, so it was
Speaker 4: never against them, like we think about it. When Quid
Speaker 4: and I had a we had a fallout, but it
Speaker 4: was just a for real, for real it was just
Speaker 4: a girlfriend fallout. It became magnified. That's why to this
Speaker 4: day she can't say what she said. I minimized her. No,
Speaker 4: they made you feel like we were one and two.
Speaker 4: They made you feel a certain kind of way. You know,
Speaker 4: I might have made little comments here in there, but
Speaker 4: no different than anybody else. What did I call simone
Speaker 4: book too? Like that's that's in a big scheme of things.
Speaker 4: That's what y'all mad about. Not the easter buddy, Yeah,
Speaker 4: something like that, Like for real, they can't just.
Speaker 2: Patty, Well, this thing is what I know about working
Speaker 2: on ensemble shows with women, right, Yeah, it is a
Speaker 2: high environment, it is, right, It's.
Speaker 1: A pressure cooker.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And obviously you're in these situations and you fight, but
Speaker 2: you love her, and and and in the reverse, I
Speaker 2: had this reaction of you saying, not only were some
Speaker 2: of the ladies telling you that, look, this has to
Speaker 2: be the final nine in your coffin. If I talked
Speaker 2: to Maria rocket Fire I'm gagging because I heard something
Speaker 2: similarly when I spoke to Quad recently, when she said
Speaker 2: that Simone told her, if I talked to you, Toya.
Speaker 1: Is going to be mad at me. And I can't
Speaker 1: have her mad at me.
Speaker 4: See, that's so crazy to me. That's so crazy. That's
Speaker 4: what's wrong with the show now to me.
Speaker 3: You know, it's become so.
Speaker 4: Many it's like they put you on an island. They
Speaker 4: all decide, you know that, hey, we can't talk to her.
Speaker 4: It becomes a form of bullying. I don't even want
Speaker 4: to say that because you know, I don't want to
Speaker 4: say anybody bullied.
Speaker 3: Me, you know, because I'm a tough girl. But I
Speaker 3: think that's the problem with.
Speaker 4: It, Like and it loses the sincerity or it just
Speaker 4: doesn't feel authentic when you do that. If you want
Speaker 4: to talk to a bitch, talk to a bitch. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a show, it's an ensemble cash.
Speaker 3: You should be able to talk to who you want to.
Speaker 4: But when they it's almost too pre it's pre produced,
Speaker 4: or it's overproduced. Like you should be able to talk
Speaker 4: to who you want to. They come against you and
Speaker 4: they say, hey, we're not.
Speaker 3: Talking to her. I can't even.
Speaker 4: Imagine what missus sweet Tea is going through because they
Speaker 4: in their mind, they've already decided this lady is not
Speaker 4: gonna be a part of our group moving forward. To me,
Speaker 4: from what I see from Afar, and I don't really
Speaker 4: watch it like that, just from the sniffets I see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, she's fighting a war. She's already lost,
Speaker 3: and it's not fair to her.
Speaker 2: When Quad was sent home, uh huh by the girls. Okay,
Speaker 2: do you think that was Qua's karma for the way
Speaker 2: you were treated as well?
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: Quad deserving them more karma than resting them ladies, I don't.
Speaker 4: I think they're all the same, and I think that
Speaker 4: they were gonna stab each other in the back, and I.
Speaker 3: I just so, I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 3: that was her karma karma or not.
Speaker 4: I just I know that the way in which they
Speaker 4: did it wasn't right. I don't like I see, I
Speaker 4: don't like to play games like they don't fly me
Speaker 4: out to a place.
Speaker 3: This still is my job. And now they messing with
Speaker 3: the girl money. They know. See when they went.
Speaker 4: To the per episodic fee and stuff, you gotta think
Speaker 4: of what they're doing that, I think her out so.
Speaker 3: She can't make a certain amount of money. It's what
Speaker 3: I see.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was you tell.
Speaker 3: So it's stupid.
Speaker 4: It's stupid to me because they shouldn't be able to
Speaker 4: control that, and they should never let the producers put
Speaker 4: them in a position where they even care about that.
Speaker 3: As long as you're getting.
Speaker 4: YO coin, you showing up doing the most, you doing
Speaker 4: your best, that's what.
Speaker 3: You should worry about. You shouldn't worry about how many
Speaker 3: scenes Quad has.
Speaker 4: You know, a sweet Tea or Auntie or you know,
Speaker 4: Arnold Palmer had like to me, just come yeah, you give.
Speaker 3: Your best and show up.
Speaker 4: So that's what I don't like when they get where
Speaker 4: they start plotting and planning and trying to push other
Speaker 4: people out. So I don't know if it was Quad's karma,
Speaker 4: but I think that she's getting a dose of her
Speaker 4: own medicine with the voting out.
Speaker 3: Shit. They should have never started that, and I've always.
Speaker 4: Said that, don't allow them to do certain things to me.
Speaker 4: I said this in the beginning because it's going to
Speaker 4: be a part of it's going to be a part
Speaker 4: of the DNA of the show. Once they do it
Speaker 4: to me, They're going to do it to you too.
Speaker 4: I hated the whole voting out thing. Why are you
Speaker 4: so that was.
Speaker 1: Really happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, when they were ready for somebody to go,
Speaker 4: they would do it through the women.
Speaker 1: And the women were just listening and they will go along.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Why I I guess they felt like whoever was signing
Speaker 4: the checks, like they just want to stay.
Speaker 3: On and keep getting a check.
Speaker 4: But they have more power in numbers and when they
Speaker 4: stick together and stick for what's right. You gotta have
Speaker 4: integrity in some of this stuff, you really truly do.
Speaker 3: And sometimes if it means.
Speaker 4: Sitting down and being on the time out and missing
Speaker 4: the season, it's okay because if you're good, it's gonna
Speaker 4: it's gonna come back. But you know, you gotta know
Speaker 4: your worth and know your power.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that they're doing that. I really
Speaker 3: really don't. I think that by Now she should have
Speaker 3: spent off.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, you're telling me to my face that
Speaker 2: you believe Quad by Now should have a spin off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's single, Like, why she on't me? I just
Speaker 3: don't understand. I'm not being funny. I don't understand, and
Speaker 3: you can't tell me. You you you seem.
Speaker 2: To think that's we're gonna have a real conversation because
Speaker 2: we're why.
Speaker 3: I do not understand how she's married to medicine in
Speaker 3: any way. I don't. I it does not make sense
Speaker 3: to me. And I'm okay with saying that. I think
Speaker 3: when her and.
Speaker 4: Doctor G got a divorce, I don't think she should
Speaker 4: have been kicked off the show.
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: I think we should have shown They should have shown
Speaker 4: the way in which they transitioned what they were doing
Speaker 4: in their separate lives and showed her.
Speaker 3: Building a building a new life.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean it still builds the show, and
Speaker 4: it still goes back to married to Medicine.
Speaker 3: It's just one of the you know, one of.
Speaker 4: The branches of married to medicine to me, show her dating,
Speaker 4: show her and her and that.
Speaker 3: Now, if that doesn't work, then so be it. But
Speaker 3: if she's a star, then let her shine and in
Speaker 3: another avenue.
Speaker 4: But it's a lot of doctor's doctor's wives that deserve
Speaker 4: to be shown.
Speaker 1: Do you think Quad is a star?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think all those ladies are, though in some ways
Speaker 4: I think all of them have star qualities. I think
Speaker 4: all of them have something that makes them shine.
Speaker 3: Now, can they carry shows? Ah, maybe not so.
Speaker 2: Much if you because one thing that I want the
Speaker 2: world to know is this, I create shows for a living.
Speaker 2: When you create a show of the network, there's language
Speaker 2: if you know how to do your contracts right where
Speaker 2: you have the right to have spin offs, Yeah, meaning
Speaker 2: create spin offs based only ensemble. If you were still
Speaker 2: a part of Maritime Medicine, would you have created a.
Speaker 1: Spin off for Quiet? And if so, what would that
Speaker 1: spin off be?
Speaker 4: So it may not have been the first spin off.
Speaker 4: You know, I would have spent off married to medicine
Speaker 4: in other cities.
Speaker 3: I absolutely would have done that because I think it.
Speaker 4: I think it's a medical hub in Houston for minorities,
Speaker 4: a lot of places that it just you know, it
Speaker 4: would have catapulted.
Speaker 3: But for Quad, I think I would have did.
Speaker 4: Just some simple I mean back to the basis finding
Speaker 4: love or you know, you know her just being her funds.
Speaker 3: She's a fun girl. She's a fun girl.
Speaker 4: I think I would have just showed her outside of
Speaker 4: the group. It almost seems like it take it's starting
Speaker 4: to take away from her to me knowing her, but
Speaker 4: knowing her at the show and like pre married to medicine.
Speaker 4: When she started, I think it it was big, and
Speaker 4: now it's almost kind of like it's I don't know,
Speaker 4: it just doesn't seem like it's she's n I don't
Speaker 4: see the growth like like she I don't think she's happy.
Speaker 4: I don't think she would be with any of those
Speaker 4: hang out with any of those women if she was
Speaker 4: getting paid.
Speaker 3: And that's evident to me.
Speaker 1: Do you miss her?
Speaker 4: I used to I don't anymore because I think she's
Speaker 4: become so much like them. She's new like it's it's
Speaker 4: it's a I think the only person that's kind of
Speaker 4: the same as Toya love her a hater.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I think Quad is more of a diva now
Speaker 4: and that's not my personality.
Speaker 3: Now. I read a bit, but you know that's not
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't do that. I'm extra credit, but
Speaker 3: I don't treat people a certain That's not my thing.
Speaker 3: She's a little different now.
Speaker 1: She said to me that.
Speaker 2: She always saw YouTube being like THEMLA Louise.
Speaker 3: She didn't. I did, she didn't. Quad was ready to
Speaker 3: go against.
Speaker 4: Me first season, first season reunion, Go Back and look,
Speaker 4: she was ready to go. I can tell you almost
Speaker 4: to the day when they flew her to to California
Speaker 4: and told her, you deserve to be number one, not
Speaker 4: number two. When we was always a duo, I was
Speaker 4: never I didn't I never got jealous a quad. I
Speaker 4: never thought she was in a breakout star. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: have had her on. I thought she was a star.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 4: I thought she had something great. I thought we had
Speaker 4: great chemistry, and I thought she was funny. It could
Speaker 4: be I thought she if they really show it, like
Speaker 4: they still haven't show.
Speaker 3: I remember Qui having a breakdown in.
Speaker 4: My garage first season, and the shit was so funny.
Speaker 4: They missed so many moments and they got it on camera,
Speaker 4: like she just couldn't adjust to the cameras initially, like
Speaker 4: she was just you know, we're so real from Tennessee.
Speaker 4: And it was hilarious trying to see her transition into
Speaker 4: what they wanted her to be because they had their
Speaker 4: minds who and what they wanted her to be, as
Speaker 4: you know, as the underdog or whatever, versus just letting
Speaker 4: it play out, you know. So I never thought that, honestly,
Speaker 4: I went into it like that.
Speaker 3: Everybody else around me seeing something different.
Speaker 4: I thought that we were a duo and we were
Speaker 4: going into it together. But I don't think that that
Speaker 4: was really truly what it is what it was at all.
Speaker 1: I was told that.
Speaker 2: Allegedly you were jealous that Quad was the breakout star,
Speaker 2: that you said something along the lines, she's ghetto.
Speaker 1: How should the breakout star?
Speaker 2: You guys had a dinner meeting at STK, got into
Speaker 2: a physical altercation, no drinks were thrown, all that stuff
Speaker 2: all because of this jealousy.
Speaker 4: So I think the most insulting part for me is
Speaker 4: that I was jealous of anybody on this show that
Speaker 4: I gave an opportunity to. First of all, I'm a
Speaker 4: smart girl. I know what comes with an ensemble cast.
Speaker 4: Even though I hadn't produced a big show before, I knew.
Speaker 3: What came with the territory. Believe you me, I did.
Speaker 4: I could have easily went onto Housewives of Atlanta and
Speaker 4: just been another star Ben Drum and just been about
Speaker 4: myself or tried to pitch something about my show.
Speaker 3: I thought we all.
Speaker 4: Had stories to tell, and I thought that Quad and
Speaker 4: I definitely had.
Speaker 3: Stories to tell. We were because I thought we were unique.
Speaker 4: I thought we came from Tennessee, you know, in a
Speaker 4: sense of you know that country girl. I just thought
Speaker 4: it was something different. I always expected her to blow up.
Speaker 4: So the fact that they started saying that was just
Speaker 4: crazy to me because I didn't think I wasn't the
Speaker 4: breakout star or I didn't think.
Speaker 3: The other ladies didn't do.
Speaker 4: I didn't look at it like everybody else did. So
Speaker 4: when they start saying that, it really threw me off
Speaker 4: cause I never was jealous or looked at her like that.
Speaker 3: You have to think that was my girlfriend.
Speaker 4: I wanted her to be on this show by any
Speaker 4: means now. So she wasn't married, and I casked her
Speaker 4: on the.
Speaker 1: Show, did she marry Greg to get on the show?
Speaker 3: I I can't say that. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know why she I don't know you.
Speaker 1: Know why she married Greg.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying no, no, no, I mean I
Speaker 3: don't know. Greg was a nice guy. I thought he
Speaker 3: was nice. But she was married.
Speaker 4: I mean, she was dating my cousin, my first cousin,
Speaker 4: So I had nothing to do with the integration with
Speaker 4: her and Greg and them meeting or any of that.
Speaker 4: So I can't I really can't speak to that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did she live with you?
Speaker 3: Never? Never?
Speaker 1: Mm mm, heavenly swears up and down.
Speaker 4: No, So you know what it was. I'm made a
Speaker 4: comment one time on the show.
Speaker 3: Uh, I think to.
Speaker 4: Toya and I made some I made a comment and
Speaker 4: I said, you know what, she can't say anything because
Speaker 4: her license plate was her address. When I you know,
Speaker 4: you know, when we cause my sister and I helped
Speaker 4: her get a place or something.
Speaker 3: I don't you know, it's not even trying to get
Speaker 3: credit for it. But that was the comment.
Speaker 4: But she never lived I've never had a woman to
Speaker 4: live with a married goddamn woman.
Speaker 3: Do I look like TYPEGGA. No, she's never lived with.
Speaker 4: Me or maybe even not even spent a night at
Speaker 4: my house like we were girlfriends.
Speaker 3: But we had boundaries. Yeah, so heavily.
Speaker 4: It's telling the hot mess in Miami life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When you inquired have that physical altercation in SDK, we didn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't physical. I think she threw a let me
Speaker 3: tell you what happened.
Speaker 1: What happened.
Speaker 4: She threw up my purse like she we was meeting
Speaker 4: up there. She threw my purse and I tried to
Speaker 4: get at her and everybody held me back.
Speaker 3: That was a physical physical altercation.
Speaker 4: She got in front of a group of people and
Speaker 4: threw my bag and I flipped out.
Speaker 1: I did no hair was being pulled.
Speaker 3: No, No, we didn't touch each other. We was far.
Speaker 3: It was never any No, me and.
Speaker 4: Toya had a physical altercation. It's the only physical altercation
Speaker 4: I've even been remotely close to.
Speaker 3: There was no har No, she was over there. She
Speaker 3: was over there, and I was over it. No, it
Speaker 3: was not like that.
Speaker 2: I thought you guys were testing on the Not at all.
Speaker 3: Nothing else, I swear on my children. No, not at all,
Speaker 3: not at all. She took my bab she was on one.
Speaker 3: I think she was.
Speaker 4: It was a ta see when she said m So
Speaker 4: when we said we were meeting up there, I didn't
Speaker 4: know she.
Speaker 3: Was with a group of people. So she was a group. Uh.
Speaker 3: She was with a group of like twenty people.
Speaker 4: She was at like the head, like at the head
Speaker 4: of the table, and I was sitting on the other
Speaker 4: side and she and you know, I think I had
Speaker 4: set my purse next to her or something. She took
Speaker 4: my person through it and I tried to get at her, and.
Speaker 3: That was it. That was it. I swear to god
Speaker 3: that was it.
Speaker 4: Never put our hands on each other anything like that.
Speaker 4: So when that all of that came.
Speaker 3: Out, it it just it.
Speaker 4: Really tripped me out now, and I feel like it
Speaker 4: was other people involved because we were hanging out, we
Speaker 4: were drinking, and maybe that kind of played a part,
Speaker 4: but it was never.
Speaker 3: Never.
Speaker 4: I didn't touch Quad and none of that, n nothing
Speaker 4: like That's they would have loved to have shown that.
Speaker 4: Think about that anything with me looking a certain kind
Speaker 4: of way.
Speaker 3: If that happened, you best.
Speaker 4: Believed they would have shown that on every episode you see.
Speaker 3: I'm they still show the fight from season one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this ten seasons later. You know, you think they wouldn't
Speaker 3: have shown that.
Speaker 4: They just heard about us arguing or whatever, but they
Speaker 4: I it was off season, we had an argument.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that it had.
Speaker 4: Made it to the season because it just really wasn't
Speaker 4: that big of a deal to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm glad you cleared that up because I
Speaker 2: believe we all thought it was something bigger than what
Speaker 2: it was. You now see the show they pushed Quad out.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't think they push Squad out.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think it's game? I don't think they push quadaut.
Speaker 3: I think that people already are starting are stuttering and
Speaker 3: going back on their words.
Speaker 4: I think it's they want you to hate her then
Speaker 4: love her. I don't think they've pushed her out. I
Speaker 4: don't think so. I think they uninvited her or brought
Speaker 4: her there. I think they umble her in their minds.
Speaker 4: They want to humble her a bit, bring her down
Speaker 4: a few, not just. They haven't pushed Squad out, and
Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to.
Speaker 3: I think it's game.
Speaker 1: But why is that?
Speaker 2: Because listen on my shows, there isn't this. And I
Speaker 2: want you to stop me if I'm wrong. A maritime medicine,
Speaker 2: which I have done plenty of, into be and I'll
Speaker 2: always get asked if you could do one show, produce
Speaker 2: one show. I always said, the Braxtons or maritime medicine,
Speaker 2: and please give me Mariti medicine, like I just I love.
Speaker 1: He was mad you didn't give me the show. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was snapper.
Speaker 3: You know what, it ain't too late.
Speaker 1: Because I was like, in my hands on these girls,
Speaker 1: I would love it.
Speaker 2: But it seems to me like that show is ran
Speaker 2: in a way that I've never seen or experienced to
Speaker 2: where it's like there's people behind the scenes pitting you girls.
Speaker 1: Against each other, and that there.
Speaker 2: Isn't anybody saying, like, you know what, that's not right.
Speaker 1: And I'm a grown ass woman, I'm educated. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do what I want.
Speaker 3: To do, and that's not the way I roll.
Speaker 1: Is that the environment of that show?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 4: I think they've created such a hostile environment with so
Speaker 4: much dissension that scares me that they can't. I hope
Speaker 4: that they can find their way back to just be authentic,
Speaker 4: because just if they're just all authentic, whether people love
Speaker 4: them or hate.
Speaker 3: Them, they will still watch them.
Speaker 4: But they're becoming too typecast to me, you know, like
Speaker 4: Jackie and Heavenly Friends just all I just see so
Speaker 4: many things that it's what the producers want versus what's
Speaker 4: natural to the ladies. To me, that's my perspective, that's
Speaker 4: my perception of all of them.
Speaker 1: Is the show living up to your vision?
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
Speaker 4: I'm happy that it's lived ten seasons. Yeah, I am,
Speaker 4: and I think that's a blessing. It is, but not
Speaker 4: at all, not at all.
Speaker 3: I feel like what I brought to it, I don't
Speaker 3: know I just it's not if they could do so
Speaker 3: much more.
Speaker 4: I think that they are doing well, and it because
Speaker 4: The Housewives isn't at its peak, you know, But I
Speaker 4: just I don't know it could do so much better.
Speaker 4: Married to Medicine should be one of the top shows
Speaker 4: in America to me, and has the potential to be that.
Speaker 3: With the right producers and.
Speaker 4: A few of the people, they could get a few
Speaker 4: of the cast they could they I mean, I think
Speaker 4: are essential, but some they can recast and don't be
Speaker 4: afraid to bring in new blood. Can't You can't be
Speaker 4: afraid to shake shit up. It's okay, I mean, it's
Speaker 4: it's evolution. I mean, it happens, and if it meant
Speaker 4: me leaving, so be it.
Speaker 3: If it was best for the show or whatever.
Speaker 4: But no, it's not living up to cause I don't
Speaker 4: think that we've learned anything more. I think a lot
Speaker 4: of the ladies looks like a lot of the ladies
Speaker 4: look like one trick ponies.
Speaker 3: To me, it's the.
Speaker 4: Same old thing every season, Like why are they still
Speaker 4: voting bitches off Island?
Speaker 3: I just don't get it, Like, who does that? I
Speaker 3: don't understand that? I don't Is that wrong? Don't.
Speaker 2: No, no, And that's the reason why I started doing
Speaker 2: these weekly recaps American Medicine.
Speaker 3: We're Heavenly, Yeah, have you been watching it? I watched
Speaker 3: this last one because.
Speaker 1: They give me your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I was so confused, not confused. I was so I mean,
Speaker 3: it went from rain drops to muddy water.
Speaker 4: I don't understand, Honey, tell me how this collaboration was inspired.
Speaker 3: I just I was.
Speaker 4: I was completely confused all up and through. And how
Speaker 4: are you are giving a true, unbiased perspective doing it
Speaker 4: with somebody that's on the show that it is the
Speaker 4: missus bitch ownership? I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Please do explain.
Speaker 2: Well, oh, we know you love all the girls.
Speaker 3: Yes you do, Yes, you do. You love the girls
Speaker 3: and I love the show, and you do.
Speaker 2: She is my dentist, and she's my friend, and she's
Speaker 2: good television.
Speaker 4: She is definitely a wildcard. And that's what I've always
Speaker 4: thought of her. Heavenly is good TV when she's a wildcard.
Speaker 3: I don't like Heavenly. They when she becomes what she thinks.
Speaker 3: How I said, Heavenly is a type that.
Speaker 4: She may not watch the show, but believe you me,
Speaker 4: she is the girl that will read every comment to
Speaker 4: see what they're saying about everybody else and become what
Speaker 4: she thinks people want her to be. Believe it or not,
Speaker 4: she is that girl reads every comment. Yeah, she thinks
Speaker 4: she's the smartest person on earth. Trust me, Heavily knows
Speaker 4: what the people are saying. So if they're saying X,
Speaker 4: Y and Z, she's gonna regurgitate that and do that
Speaker 4: or whatever. So I just think that heavenly if she
Speaker 4: gets out of her own way and just really is honest.
Speaker 4: Do you think in a perfect world, in the real world,
Speaker 4: you think Heavily.
Speaker 3: And Jacket would be friends? No, it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: No, And I said that to her.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I love giving this show as
Speaker 2: Flowers and having the platform to do it is because
Speaker 2: I really want Eyeboss to be on this show.
Speaker 4: Why why do you want eyeballs on the show so much?
Speaker 2: Because as a black person in this space, I know
Speaker 2: how we're marginalized.
Speaker 1: I know that way.
Speaker 4: When they marginalize me as the creator of the show.
Speaker 4: So knowing and knowing that, how can you still rally
Speaker 4: so hard for the very establishment that went against your girl.
Speaker 2: That's a very good question and I'm gonna be very
Speaker 2: honest with you. I never looked at it that way
Speaker 2: because I always looked at the institution because at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, you did create the show, you
Speaker 2: get the credit, and you get the coin.
Speaker 1: Right. So for me, and I'm just telling you my truth.
Speaker 2: Right, for me, it was all about making sure your
Speaker 2: legacy stayed alive, because no matter what we do on
Speaker 2: this earth, we are only beholden by the legacy in
Speaker 2: which we leave. So here you have this black man
Speaker 2: who's the king of reality television, who all of a
Speaker 2: sudden has a hip podcast or hit YouTube channel, has
Speaker 2: these eyeballs on him. I've said this since I was
Speaker 2: a show runer on the Lane of Housewives. That's a
Speaker 2: show that is the best on Bravo, Right, So me
Speaker 2: giving flowers to this show, I'm gonna be very honest
Speaker 2: with you, was me giving flowers to you too, because at.
Speaker 1: The end of the day.
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of how I see it. I saw
Speaker 2: it like, people need to know about this show before
Speaker 2: it becomes that's just another black show. Because what's happening
Speaker 2: right now in scripted is a lot of black shows
Speaker 2: are getting canceled, a lot of black scripted shows are
Speaker 2: getting canceled, and I never wanted with my platform as
Speaker 2: a black person to not interview black people. I've had
Speaker 2: people say to me, you went from interviewing Needy Leaks
Speaker 2: to Diamond from Love and Hip Hop, and I thought
Speaker 2: to myself, yea Diamond the Love and hip Hop people.
Speaker 2: I interview a chick named Monique and Derek.
Speaker 1: Her Man from Love after lock Up.
Speaker 2: I don't care what show you on because so because
Speaker 2: I don't have this platform just to like be cute
Speaker 2: and we're nice sweaters and some and some rings.
Speaker 1: So for me, it was I wanted.
Speaker 2: To make sure that this show was successful, not only
Speaker 2: for the girls, but for you. And I know there's
Speaker 2: other things associated with that show that isn't pleasing to me,
Speaker 2: but as a black person, I know that the audience
Speaker 2: don't care about that. They care about we want to
Speaker 2: make sure this show survives. So that was my intention
Speaker 2: to it. And I I'll say this though, I don't
Speaker 2: think anyone besides Heavenly and You, because we're talking about it.
Speaker 2: I'm only talking about the people who said it to me.
Speaker 2: You Quad and Heavenly have said it to me. I
Speaker 2: don't feel like the rest of those girls except Toya.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like they appreciate me giving this show
Speaker 2: a voice.
Speaker 4: So you don't feel like they appreciate you giving the
Speaker 4: show a voice. And I don't think that they ever
Speaker 4: appreciate me giving them a platform.
Speaker 3: So imagine how.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, so you get a just
Speaker 4: a snippet of how I feel. So I felt like
Speaker 4: they gave me their asses to kiss after I.
Speaker 3: Shared what in Simone's What Simone said to me is
Speaker 3: this is your dream.
Speaker 4: I'm just hon she said this to me, not on camera,
Speaker 4: but she said this is your dream. I am just
Speaker 4: so elated that you will allowed us.
Speaker 3: You shared your dream with us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, but it became a nightmare because I
Speaker 4: did want to share it, and the libra in me
Speaker 4: just didn't see anybody coming for me or anything like that,
Speaker 4: you know. And I do think that we made history.
Speaker 4: It's a great show, but I do think it was
Speaker 4: a smack in the face, you know, the way it
Speaker 4: turned out.
Speaker 3: So I get that you.
Speaker 4: Are giving the show a voice, and I appreciate it
Speaker 4: because it does keep it alive and keep it going,
Speaker 4: and it's huge that you do that. But I think
Speaker 4: it's your love for unscripted, for reality TV, for the girls.
Speaker 3: You know, it's your love for the girls, A lot.
Speaker 1: Of the girls I love well.
Speaker 4: But you know how hard it is to create something.
Speaker 4: It's this marit to medicine is my baby is and
Speaker 4: always will be.
Speaker 3: And they can't wipe me out of that. You know,
Speaker 3: it's history. It's my history. But you know, to your
Speaker 3: point earlier.
Speaker 4: When you talk about legacy, I didn't want to leave
Speaker 4: my legacy with them, you know, saying I did drugs.
Speaker 3: I've never done drugs.
Speaker 4: I created it like that, So that's not the way
Speaker 4: you take me out of my legacy, not with This
Speaker 4: is also my children's legacy. It's about generational wealth and
Speaker 4: creating something where they can see years and.
Speaker 3: Be proud of. How can I be proud of something I.
Speaker 4: Created as being the first African American woman to create
Speaker 4: a show on Bravo, star in it and executive produce it.
Speaker 3: How can I be?
Speaker 4: How can I be proud of it and tell my
Speaker 4: children to watch When.
Speaker 3: They're accusing me of drugs? How dare them? How fucking
Speaker 3: dare them? I did it to go against that. We
Speaker 3: have enough shows doing that. That is not my life
Speaker 3: and That is not my vice.
Speaker 1: This is my vice.
Speaker 3: If they accuse me of red wine, I am guilty
Speaker 3: and shot.
Speaker 4: But anything else that you align on me, how dare you?
Speaker 3: I just for me? It just it hit me in
Speaker 3: a It just hit me.
Speaker 4: It was a gut punch because I thought and then
Speaker 4: these are they don't get These are all as Will
Speaker 4: Ferrell will say, these are.
Speaker 3: All learned doctors.
Speaker 4: How could you allow them to accuse anybody on this
Speaker 4: cast of drugs? Do you not know that backfires with
Speaker 4: the hospital.
Speaker 3: I was a drug rep.
Speaker 4: I worked for the number one pharmaceuper company and the
Speaker 4: world Pfefizer.
Speaker 3: I sold the top two drugs in the world. Like,
Speaker 3: I had millions of dollars of drugs in my storage.
Speaker 3: Like it's just crazy. So for them to accuse me
Speaker 3: of drugs, it's just crazy.
Speaker 4: So that's not the legacy that I left behind. And
Speaker 4: the fact that none of them had enough integrity or
Speaker 4: balls to stand up as a hold up a minute.
Speaker 3: I mean not agree with Mariah, but nah, this ain't it.
Speaker 2: But that's my And I said this on my my
Speaker 2: weekly recast with Heavenly I it's so obvious that there
Speaker 2: and listen every ensemble. Shall always tell people there's alliances.
Speaker 2: I there's alliances. I listen, I believe Quad. When Simone
Speaker 2: allegedly said to her, I can't go against you.
Speaker 1: Because I don't he said that.
Speaker 4: No, I know, No, she absolutely quiet is not lying
Speaker 4: because she's the person that said to me, they want
Speaker 4: me to put the nail in your coffin, Simon, samm
Speaker 4: is deep. Yeah, she's the person that said to me,
Speaker 4: they want me to put the nail in your coffin,
Speaker 4: but I'm not sure if I can do it.
Speaker 1: So I'm a blonger. But some moon's a backstabber Agen.
Speaker 3: That's the person everybody keeps saying. Quat the person I
Speaker 3: had more Qua was my best friend.
Speaker 4: Never was jealous of her, the world of her, honestly.
Speaker 4: But Simone delivered my babies, deliver my sister babies, delivered
Speaker 4: my cousin's babies.
Speaker 3: My aunt was her nanny.
Speaker 4: That's who I had allegiance to. Yeah, she brought life
Speaker 4: in the world and my family. That's who my allegiance
Speaker 4: was always to. Miss Simon old fence riding Simon, yeah,
Speaker 4: mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So when she said that's the.
Speaker 4: Quat's NotI line, and I don't have a dog in
Speaker 4: a fight, right, But if quad said she said.
Speaker 3: That she said, and not the in QUI lie, she
Speaker 3: lied on me.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 3: On that yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that hurts you.
Speaker 2: I could tell, I could tell about your your knee jerk.
Speaker 2: You literally had a knee jerk reaction.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: And I saw, I'm gonna tell you two moments.
Speaker 2: That I knew that you really cared about the show
Speaker 2: that knees your reaction to the cocaine accusation and then
Speaker 2: and when Heavenly put the devil horns on your poster
Speaker 2: and I felt violent.
Speaker 3: Well, the thig is I was a victimized.
Speaker 2: Where you are black hair?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna call you Katrina.
Speaker 3: I am, I was.
Speaker 4: Listen, I am, And I'm gonna tell you why when.
Speaker 2: You get that you gave black hair advise, we call
Speaker 2: her Katrina.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: She's from Miami Dade County.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take that.
Speaker 2: I'm season But because as a viewer I.
Speaker 1: Would, We're gonna do a highlight. My favorite motus from
Speaker 1: you is there's a lot you hilarious to me without trying.
Speaker 2: Will you walk into the reunion with your firm as
Speaker 2: let the best biggin.
Speaker 1: And then when she uh the.
Speaker 2: FAMERR poster, you said that YETO, shit, gotta go.
Speaker 1: This is not Mare at the hip hop. She got
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 3: I feel like that because I thought that at.
Speaker 2: That time you really was like, what has this show become?
Speaker 3: I was, And let me tell you a lot of it.
Speaker 4: So you know when Mary's medisone we do all the
Speaker 4: reunions in New York.
Speaker 3: Yes, and so.
Speaker 4: Anybody will tell you like, and it's not for TV
Speaker 4: or anything. I created a vibe, so I had I
Speaker 4: don't know, I can't tell you what's what craft services
Speaker 4: was because I created my own They all would tell
Speaker 4: you my entire team.
Speaker 3: I had a catered corner.
Speaker 4: Everybody came over there to my corner to eat. I
Speaker 4: have created a space because I like, I'm all about energy, ecstatic.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I would have like I had a.
Speaker 4: Team to come and decorate the room, bring in furniture
Speaker 4: at the reunion in New York.
Speaker 1: You brought at your own reunion?
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, they would, I kid you not? Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: So I had.
Speaker 4: A person to come in style the room, create everything.
Speaker 4: I'm all about an aura, I mean all about the aura.
Speaker 3: They'll tell you may I raised the bar. I raised
Speaker 3: the bar.
Speaker 4: I made those girls step it up, asked them. They
Speaker 4: came over to eat my food. My team look, and
Speaker 4: I do this every year, every year, every year, but
Speaker 4: it wasn't. This was so much shaf that I need
Speaker 4: to fill a certain kind of way. I want my
Speaker 4: team to fill a certain kind of way.
Speaker 3: And it's always a vibe.
Speaker 4: I'm about it.
Speaker 3: I'm about a vibe. We're gonna have a good time.
Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna ex because when you get out.
Speaker 3: On that stage, it's war.
Speaker 1: It is, it's war.
Speaker 3: So I created a whole vibe. So when she came
Speaker 3: in defaced my poster, like I was violated. She came
Speaker 3: in my room and see.
Speaker 4: Because I know my people and somebody would have throat
Speaker 4: punch heavily ass and then look, no dead ass for real,
Speaker 4: Like that was a seven hundred.
Speaker 3: I don't play like that. Don't tell my shit. I'm
Speaker 3: from Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Speaker 4: And while I'm living my best I don't get it twisted.
Speaker 4: She my first name is Lakeisha, and it was it
Speaker 4: almost I just shrut the reunion down by my ship.
Speaker 4: Don't bother my ship. Don't come in my room and
Speaker 4: bother my stuff. No, I was felt very violated. Now
Speaker 4: if I would have went up in there and cut
Speaker 4: up her reunion dress like see once people go low, like,
Speaker 4: don't go low and then get mad at me when
Speaker 4: I go to the bows.
Speaker 3: Of hell, like, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4: You stay on your side and I'll do the same.
Speaker 4: And they thought it was kecky. You know, I didn't
Speaker 4: want to keicky in legs mac. I didn't like that,
Speaker 4: don't bother my stuff. So I was violated.
Speaker 3: And my white friends was there.
Speaker 1: They was like, I'm going to.
Speaker 4: Kick her, and I was like, hold on a minute,
Speaker 4: let's not do that.
Speaker 2: Because God, because I am a huge fan of unscripted,
Speaker 2: I'm the king of reality. Also because I just I
Speaker 2: just love this genre so much. Me too, I watched
Speaker 2: that scene at least once a week. And you have
Speaker 2: this white male friend with silver hair who looks so appalled.
Speaker 3: I mean it was trade. He looked so appalled. Just
Speaker 3: but that to me was he said that bit to go.
Speaker 4: I'm talking And he went out there and said to Andy,
Speaker 4: he sak, you know enough enough, Yes, tray, honey, she
Speaker 4: had to go. All my people was like you want
Speaker 4: me to get her, you want me to get I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get her. It was one of those moments. And
Speaker 4: you talking about TV, it was the whole show.
Speaker 2: I said this to the girls too. I said the
Speaker 2: show was epic when you were on and you can't
Speaker 2: deny that, but now.
Speaker 3: It's quad shaw.
Speaker 2: Did I say that you better give me together?
Speaker 1: Baby? I said she was a breakout star.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 1: Are okay? I think that you don't watch the show often? No,
Speaker 1: I don't okay to me?
Speaker 2: And I said to say he La every Monday. The
Speaker 2: show is boring without her on it.
Speaker 1: Not saying she made.
Speaker 2: The show by herself. It's the the ensemble and you.
Speaker 2: I always tell people it's like the starting five lineup
Speaker 2: in a baseball game. Lebron cannot do everything without his support.
Speaker 2: Beyonce's Beyonce because she had Kelly latav and LaToya Michelle
Speaker 2: behind her or next to her, or you know, is
Speaker 2: that Michael Jordan, Nita Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 1: And my issue with.
Speaker 2: Merriton Medicine was can you girls put the ego aside
Speaker 2: and do what's best for.
Speaker 3: The show that with me?
Speaker 2: And I told so what you don't know I don't
Speaker 2: think you know this, No, I don't. Heavenly during quarantine,
Speaker 2: that's when Heavenly started her YouTube channel, and yeah, and
Speaker 2: she invited me on and Melody at that time as
Speaker 2: Melody Holte from Love and Marriage. Meloie's great, she's a
Speaker 2: great girl. And this is before any announcement came about
Speaker 2: you coming back or not. I said to her, y'all
Speaker 2: can watch it. I said, let me tell you something
Speaker 2: I feel like and I'm paraphrasing, but I feel like
Speaker 2: you're icing Mariah out.
Speaker 1: Listen to me.
Speaker 2: Now, don't you ever do anything that's not good for
Speaker 2: the show. It's it's don't do it because I've seen
Speaker 2: I did a lot of Housewives. Yeah, and I saw
Speaker 2: sometimes they were going down that road of well, we
Speaker 2: don't and I would say that you don't cast and
Speaker 2: you don't fire. Your job is to sit there, be real,
Speaker 2: tell your real.
Speaker 1: Story and film.
Speaker 2: What's happening now in unscripted is this mob mentality. I'm
Speaker 2: seeing it on Salt Lake City, I'm seeing it on Potomac.
Speaker 2: It's it's like you need to go and what they
Speaker 2: do is they ce you out. I haven't seen in
Speaker 2: the way marrit to medicine has done it to you
Speaker 2: or to Quad, and haven't.
Speaker 3: Done the same thing to Quad that they have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it's definitely separate. No, it's definitely separate.
Speaker 3: But it's not the same, right.
Speaker 2: No, And I wasn't trying to make it the same
Speaker 2: in terms of what we as the audience have felt,
Speaker 2: but that to me would be the destruction of the show.
Speaker 3: I think they're doing it more to Sweet Tea. I
Speaker 3: think they did it to Buffy. I think they kind
Speaker 3: of iced her, like why why is Buffy not?
Speaker 2: I'm like, Janie, I want to hear your I heard
Speaker 2: the real villain on the show?
Speaker 3: Is I heard? Absolutely? That's the fucking music.
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