1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: You can buy your allegedly and my Voice mugs, T shirts, 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: rain drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: dot com. That's right. Get your hoodies, your T shirts, 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: and your mugs all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: to Reality the King. It's me Carlos kings the King 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: of Reality TV and one of the most sought after 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: executive producers in reality television with over ten years of 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King, 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: we are still talking and tweeting about. 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Yes, So today's episode Reality of the King. I'm there 15 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: with the creata of all things fabulous and the best 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: showing Bravo. I've been saying this for years, and y'all 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: know it's true. Maritime Medicine. Give it up for my girl, 18 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: my Queen Mariah hah, I'm ting for myself. 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: You look. First of all, you look amazing. 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: Thank you, so do you well? 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Thank you? Honey? You know I did take a bath today. 23 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm you look radiant, thank you. 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: I'll watched my face with neutral Gina pink grape brute 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: and you know I'm not on a zimpic, but I 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: do love to like put things in my body to 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: make sure the weight stays gone good. 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: No, what is your secret? 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: Because you look fantastic? 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: Peace? Oh peace, I'm happy. 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: I'm at peace and I think it radiates up in 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: and out. 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Where have you been because we miss here. 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: I've been working. I'm a receptionist, a custodian. 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: Like this was my you know, Sleek Studios was my 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: next project. 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: And you know, we know how it is. We're perfectionists. 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: You want to work on something you wanted to be right. 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: So I really I feel like the last four years 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 4: and it took a little bit longer than I expected. 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: I expect quarantine, COVID, all of these things. 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: But I've been here. 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: Like I really have, and I felt like God was 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: telling me to be still and focus on this because you. 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: Know, after going through. 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 4: Married to medicine and doing production, I wanted to be 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: able to create a canvas in a place in our 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: own backyard where it. 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: Wasn't a controlled environment. Shit, I wanted to be able 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: to clown and cut. 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Up at my own. 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, but I have to give you your flowers 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: before we start this interview process, because carnations and roses. 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 5: You know. 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: Tell me what? Because you give all the girls flowers? 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 3: Do I you do? 58 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: Mm hm? 59 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: I do love the girl you do? You do bad? 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: It's not bad, but I love for you to be 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: very distinctive in which type of flowers. 62 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 3: You're giving who. 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: Okay, because it's not the same type of garden nowadays. 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: It you have Barry White's Secret Garden mixed in with 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: eld Barge. 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: Yes, a little sprinkle of that. 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean he did the best verse in the song 68 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: you have a Garden. Because I don't know too many 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: people that can say they created a franchise, Okay. And 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: I want people to understand this. It's not like you 71 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: have this idea and everybody around the production or the 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: network had to cultivate it for it to make sense. 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't think people understand. You came up with the 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: title married to Medicine, You cast all guys. 75 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: She did all of this before even pitching to a network. 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: You came up with the title you cast all the girls. 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: You shot a sizzle reil, a sisor rel is a 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: it's like a pilot episode to pitch the networks. You 79 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: funded it yourself, You funded the treatment. 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Not too many, girl, I don't know. 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody personally who did it that way. 82 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: Tell you actually what I did. Some of that is true, 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 3: But let me just correct a couple of things. Okay, 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't just do a scissor reel. 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: I had did multiple scissor rules and an extended one, 86 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: and I did fund it. 87 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: You're right. 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: And the one thing I did not do is name 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: it married to Medicine. Okay, So I had multiple casts, 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: and I was already picked up on another network. I 91 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: was picked up on TOC and I chose to go 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 4: with Bravos. So I did picked up the Doctor's Wives Club. 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Doctor's Wives Club. 94 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended up doing. And I chose to go with. 95 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: Bravo because I felt like it was more succinct the 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: base of who we. 97 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: Were selling to, you know, the type of women we were. 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: I just thought the Bravo audience was ours up and through, 99 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: like that's where I wanted to be or whatever. So 100 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: the only thing I didn't do was name it married 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 4: to Medicine. I had multiple aim like we had unmedical doctors, 102 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 4: wives club cast, all the women paid for had everything, 103 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: had multiple multiple reels and it was. 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: A lot of work. 105 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: So there was no vanity title there because I busted 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: my ass and it took me four years to get 107 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: it picked up at multiple places. And of course once 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: it got picked up at one place, all the networks 109 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: came calling. 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Mm. Yeah, so a bidding war. 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It literally was a bidding war. So 112 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: what I was trying to do, you know, the girls 113 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: get sneaky. 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: So when it got picked up by Bravo and TLC, 115 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: I said, listen, so our be on the one on 116 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: Bravo and let me just do a different version of 117 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: it on TLC. TLC said no, ma'am, if you're not 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: on it, we don't want it. 119 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 120 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: So I was trying to do two different ones. 121 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you want a two separate checks. 122 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted you multiple streams is the key. 123 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: You're such a Libra all the through. 124 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: I am too much of a Libra. We love multiple 125 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: and we love balance. 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: We do we love balance. 127 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: We're off balance and throws us off. The pitching was. 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: A lot the pitching was a lot, and obviously you 129 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: created the show. It became a huge hit out the 130 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: gate this season, I believe it's their tenth season. 131 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: There's ten seasons. 132 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: You still get a credit, you still get a check, Yeah, several. 133 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: I have multiple credits, so. 134 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: People don't watch at the beginning and the end, so 135 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 4: I have the creative buy and executive producer credit. People 136 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: don't watch, but if you watch all the way through, 137 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: they do it so fast. 138 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: They want my shit real fast. But I still get 139 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: to two predacy. It's a big deal cause it's two 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: separate roles, you know. 141 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I get the EP and as well as 142 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: creative by or. 143 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: Kept concept by, and you get paid per episode. 144 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: May you asking a lot of questions? I get a call, 145 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: I get a. 146 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Que CA you're happy with the money you're receiving. 147 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 148 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: I mean I don't think you can ever be paid 149 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: your worth mm and so. 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: No, I I don't think so. I think it's different 151 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: when you're on a show, you know. 152 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 4: I I feel like from a talent perspective, it almost 153 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: felt like you know you were you could see the 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: money a lot more. But I'm happy with what I've created, 155 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: what I've built and jump being I it being a 156 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: jumping board to all the other things I'm. 157 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Doing, you know what I mean. That's the way I 158 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: have to look at it. 159 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: I can't look at it as I should have been 160 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: paid more than I just I don't get caught up 161 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: in that because. 162 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: I be a bit of bitch and I don't wanna 163 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: be that. So no, I think I deserve a lot 164 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: more money, you know. But I'm good. You're good, you good, 165 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: and you and I've done a l I've done a 166 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: lot more with a lot less. 167 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: Mm, so imagine what I'm doing now. 168 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: Well, well we can see that being in this studio 169 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: from Marian Media. 170 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: That is just super impressive. 171 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: We t we spoke last year, so I won't regurgitate 172 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: those same questions. 173 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: But can you explain to the audience, those. 174 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: Who may not have watched last year's interview, what happened 175 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: to where you can create a show. 176 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Star on it? 177 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't wanna put words in your mouth, 178 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: but where you pushed out of maritime medicine? 179 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolute, I think so. I think my contract ran out, 180 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: my cont just like. 181 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: Many of the girls, My contract ran out from a 182 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: talent perspective, cause I had multiple contracts, you know, the 183 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: producer contract and the talent contract. 184 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: I didn't realize in the beginning that was. 185 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: The goal the entire time was to push me out 186 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 4: from a talent perspective, cause you don't they don't ever 187 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: want you to have too much power, you know, in. 188 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: Front of the camera and behind the camera. 189 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I did feel as if I was pushed out, 190 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: But you know what, in hindsight, I feel like maybe 191 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: it was best cause. 192 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: I I don't think it was best for the show. 193 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: M I think it wasn't a good decision for the show. 194 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: And that's all I know. Was bullshit in the game, 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: because it wasn't for the show. It wasn't best. 196 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: I n there's no way they can come up with 197 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: any reason why I should be out of the show 198 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: where they come up with a line or you're on 199 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 4: the island, or the girls aren't. 200 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: Doing this, or the girls. 201 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: Don't wanna hang with you. You know, they always do their 202 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: they vote you out. You know, it's just it's all. 203 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: Kind of a unscripted script. So yeah, I feel like 204 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: I was. 205 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: A bit pushed out prematurely, but I think it backfired 206 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways and I don't think it 207 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: was best for the franchise, you know, And I I 208 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: try not to honing in on it too much because 209 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: the first thing they'll say, she's mad, And it's not that. 210 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: I just don't like the way in which it was done. 211 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: And I did feel as if I was stabbed in 212 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: my back, my heart, my juggler, in my eye. I 213 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 4: with with all of those ladies. I did you know, 214 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: I'm not even mad at the producers. You can't let 215 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: the devil use you. They had to have a vessel. 216 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: And I felt like all of those ladies, yeah, cause 217 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: they didn't have a reason. I'm not just I wasn't perfect, 218 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: but I was damn good producer of amazing talent. So 219 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: it just it didn't make sense. And we all would 220 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 4: have got keep it. We would've kept getting cute coins 221 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 4: cause I was always fair. They know that I was 222 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: what what was best for the show. I will always 223 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: say no, we we can't do this. I fought for em, 224 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: all of. 225 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: Us to have a MFN. On the talent side, there 226 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: was no you get paid more, you the best. 227 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: You d despite what people think it w I never 228 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: had the attitude of I'm the queen b paid me 229 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: the most. 230 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: No, the talent. 231 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: Side, everybody get paid the same, And as soon as 232 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: I left, they went to war about that Jackie gets 233 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: paid more than quad or this person gets See. 234 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: I didn't want that. 235 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: Cause I knew that there would always be a point 236 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: of dissension, you know, because it's it's an ensemble cast, 237 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: and every season somebody's gonna rise, it's gonna be focused 238 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: on someone, and so you know, it's just everybody get 239 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: a time to shine. So you know, I I think 240 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: they did a lot of things to me that was 241 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 4: it was very per it felt very personal, and it 242 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: did feel a bit discriminatory, and nobody had my back. 243 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, I that that kind of left a bad 244 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: taste in my mouth. 245 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: You felt that because you're a black woman, there was 246 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: some discrimination involved. 247 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was because I'm a black woman, 248 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: a woman, a strong woman, I don't know, but I 249 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: I I I don't think it was normal. I don't 250 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: think it makes sense and I cannot fathom to this 251 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: day any. 252 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: Of those women would go along with it. 253 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: With how hard I had worked for all of us 254 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: to be seen on such an amazing platform to be 255 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: I just wanted us as black families. It's minority families 256 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 4: to be seen as successful minority families. I mean, it 257 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: seems very small, but it's you know, you don't see 258 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: a lot of it on TV, and I just thought 259 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: it was important for us to tell our stories. You know, 260 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: it wasn't love and hip hop, and there's no offense 261 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: in love and hip hop. 262 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: Cause that's a part of our culture. 263 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but this was just a different side that I 264 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: know we needed to see, and it was certain things 265 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: that was important to me. The education, the families actually 266 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: being married to medicine rather it's the career or having 267 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: someone in in in the field of medicine. I just 268 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: felt like we needed to keep that connection to keep 269 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: the credibility of the show. 270 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: And I was really really s I M. 271 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm extremely passionate and sincere about that, and I wouldn't 272 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: go back down. I didn't care the housewives had women 273 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: that was no longer married. I didn't want that. 274 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: For marriage to menadicine. 275 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 4: No, not at all, and wrong or right or indifferent. 276 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 4: I don't want that from married to medic because it's 277 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: on every other show. I wanted to see married minority families, 278 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: educated families because we exist now, we. 279 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: Could be we not cases. 280 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but we exist. 281 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 282 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: So I just wanted it to stay true to that. 283 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: There were accusations from the girls that you would say 284 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: things to them like this show is called. 285 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Married to Mariah? Yeah, is that true? 286 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. 287 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: So but the other part of that that they're not 288 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: seeing is all of the ladies knew that it wasn't them. 289 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: I was at war, at war with. 290 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 4: That I would say yes, married to Mariah, or they 291 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 4: knew that I was fighting a much bigger. 292 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: War behind camera. Whatever you saw on camera, the real 293 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: real war. 294 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 4: Was behind camera when the cameras went off, when the 295 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: lights went off. 296 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: So if I didn't tell my. 297 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: Story, if I didn't call myself the queen be married, 298 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: you know, married to Maria, people wouldn't even know I 299 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: was an executive producer or creator of that show. Do 300 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: you think those ladies would have told my story. I 301 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: had to tell who I was and stand up in. 302 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: The role I create, in what I created, cause. 303 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: Nobody would have told my story if I would have 304 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: went with. 305 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: What they say, trust the process. If I would have 306 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: trusted the process, it'll look like I would. 307 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: Have been another doctor's wife that came in and out 308 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: on that show, and they would have been happy with that, 309 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: kind of like the critical race theory. 310 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: They would have wiped me out of history if they could, 311 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: and still try to. 312 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: So the thing is this, when you were say those things, yeah, 313 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: that wasn't towards the girl. 314 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: They knew that. They knew that. 315 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: I felt like they were being used, like don't come 316 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: at me like that, you know what it is. And 317 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: sometimes it was a little shady, ain't gonna lie. Sometimes 318 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: it was shade, like don't do me, Like come on, 319 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: cause I didn't have an issue with any of those ladies. 320 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: I didn't have a reason to go up against them, 321 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: but I felt like, why would they bring the extra 322 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: Like why would. 323 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: They be the ones to take me out. 324 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: One of the women actually said to me, they want 325 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: me to be the person to put the nail in 326 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: your coffin. 327 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: They want me to be the person to put the 328 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: nail in your coffin. 329 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: Another woman went to the pre production meeting and said, 330 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: if I talked to Mariah, will I be fired from 331 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: married to medicine? 332 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: Facts? Will I be fired from married to medicine? So 333 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: you have to understand what I was up against. And 334 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: they all knew it. 335 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: You know, they knew what it was, so it was 336 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: never against them, like we think about it. When Quid 337 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: and I had a we had a fallout, but it 338 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: was just a for real, for real it was just 339 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: a girlfriend fallout. It became magnified. That's why to this 340 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: day she can't say what she said. I minimized her. No, 341 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: they made you feel like we were one and two. 342 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: They made you feel a certain kind of way. You know, 343 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: I might have made little comments here in there, but 344 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: no different than anybody else. What did I call simone 345 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: book too? Like that's that's in a big scheme of things. 346 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: That's what y'all mad about. Not the easter buddy, Yeah, 347 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: something like that, Like for real, they can't just. 348 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: Patty, Well, this thing is what I know about working 349 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: on ensemble shows with women, right, Yeah, it is a 350 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: high environment, it is, right, It's. 351 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: A pressure cooker. 352 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 353 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: And obviously you're in these situations and you fight, but 354 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: you love her, and and and in the reverse, I 355 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: had this reaction of you saying, not only were some 356 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: of the ladies telling you that, look, this has to 357 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: be the final nine in your coffin. If I talked 358 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: to Maria rocket Fire I'm gagging because I heard something 359 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: similarly when I spoke to Quad recently, when she said 360 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: that Simone told her, if I talked to you, Toya. 361 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Is going to be mad at me. And I can't 362 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: have her mad at me. 363 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: See, that's so crazy to me. That's so crazy. That's 364 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: what's wrong with the show now to me. 365 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's become so. 366 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: Many it's like they put you on an island. They 367 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: all decide, you know that, hey, we can't talk to her. 368 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 4: It becomes a form of bullying. I don't even want 369 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: to say that because you know, I don't want to 370 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: say anybody bullied. 371 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: Me, you know, because I'm a tough girl. But I 372 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: think that's the problem with. 373 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: It, Like and it loses the sincerity or it just 374 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: doesn't feel authentic when you do that. If you want 375 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: to talk to a bitch, talk to a bitch. You know, 376 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: it's a show, it's an ensemble cash. 377 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 3: You should be able to talk to who you want to. 378 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: But when they it's almost too pre it's pre produced, 379 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: or it's overproduced. Like you should be able to talk 380 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: to who you want to. They come against you and 381 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 4: they say, hey, we're not. 382 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: Talking to her. I can't even. 383 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 4: Imagine what missus sweet Tea is going through because they 384 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 4: in their mind, they've already decided this lady is not 385 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: gonna be a part of our group moving forward. To me, 386 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: from what I see from Afar, and I don't really 387 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: watch it like that, just from the sniffets I see. 388 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, she's fighting a war. She's already lost, 389 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: and it's not fair to her. 390 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: When Quad was sent home, uh huh by the girls. Okay, 391 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: do you think that was Qua's karma for the way 392 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: you were treated as well? 393 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: I don't think. 394 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: Quad deserving them more karma than resting them ladies, I don't. 395 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: I think they're all the same, and I think that 396 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: they were gonna stab each other in the back, and I. 397 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: I just so, I don't know. I don't know if 398 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: that was her karma karma or not. 399 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 4: I just I know that the way in which they 400 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: did it wasn't right. I don't like I see, I 401 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: don't like to play games like they don't fly me 402 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 4: out to a place. 403 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: This still is my job. And now they messing with 404 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: the girl money. They know. See when they went. 405 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: To the per episodic fee and stuff, you gotta think 406 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 4: of what they're doing that, I think her out so. 407 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 3: She can't make a certain amount of money. It's what 408 00:18:59,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: I see. 409 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was you tell. 410 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: So it's stupid. 411 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: It's stupid to me because they shouldn't be able to 412 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 4: control that, and they should never let the producers put 413 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: them in a position where they even care about that. 414 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: As long as you're getting. 415 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: YO coin, you showing up doing the most, you doing 416 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 4: your best, that's what. 417 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: You should worry about. You shouldn't worry about how many 418 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: scenes Quad has. 419 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: You know, a sweet Tea or Auntie or you know, 420 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: Arnold Palmer had like to me, just come yeah, you give. 421 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: Your best and show up. 422 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: So that's what I don't like when they get where 423 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: they start plotting and planning and trying to push other 424 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: people out. So I don't know if it was Quad's karma, 425 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: but I think that she's getting a dose of her 426 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: own medicine with the voting out. 427 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: Shit. They should have never started that, and I've always. 428 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: Said that, don't allow them to do certain things to me. 429 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 4: I said this in the beginning because it's going to 430 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: be a part of it's going to be a part 431 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 4: of the DNA of the show. Once they do it 432 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: to me, They're going to do it to you too. 433 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: I hated the whole voting out thing. Why are you 434 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: so that was. 435 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Really happening behind the scenes. 436 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, when they were ready for somebody to go, 437 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: they would do it through the women. 438 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: And the women were just listening and they will go along. 439 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 440 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: Why I I guess they felt like whoever was signing 441 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: the checks, like they just want to stay. 442 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: On and keep getting a check. 443 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: But they have more power in numbers and when they 444 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 4: stick together and stick for what's right. You gotta have 445 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 4: integrity in some of this stuff, you really truly do. 446 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: And sometimes if it means. 447 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: Sitting down and being on the time out and missing 448 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: the season, it's okay because if you're good, it's gonna 449 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: it's gonna come back. But you know, you gotta know 450 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: your worth and know your power. 451 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: And I don't think that they're doing that. I really 452 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: really don't. I think that by Now she should have 453 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: spent off. 454 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: Wait a second, you're telling me to my face that 455 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: you believe Quad by Now should have a spin off. 456 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's single, Like, why she on't me? I just 457 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: don't understand. I'm not being funny. I don't understand, and 458 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: you can't tell me. You you you seem. 459 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: To think that's we're gonna have a real conversation because 460 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: we're why. 461 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: I do not understand how she's married to medicine in 462 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: any way. I don't. I it does not make sense 463 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: to me. And I'm okay with saying that. I think 464 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: when her and. 465 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 4: Doctor G got a divorce, I don't think she should 466 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 4: have been kicked off the show. 467 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. 468 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: I think we should have shown They should have shown 469 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: the way in which they transitioned what they were doing 470 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 4: in their separate lives and showed her. 471 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: Building a building a new life. 472 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean it still builds the show, and 473 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 4: it still goes back to married to Medicine. 474 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 3: It's just one of the you know, one of. 475 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 4: The branches of married to medicine to me, show her dating, 476 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: show her and her and that. 477 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: Now, if that doesn't work, then so be it. But 478 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: if she's a star, then let her shine and in 479 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: another avenue. 480 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: But it's a lot of doctor's doctor's wives that deserve 481 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 4: to be shown. 482 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: Do you think Quad is a star? 483 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 484 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 4: I think all those ladies are, though in some ways 485 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: I think all of them have star qualities. I think 486 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 4: all of them have something that makes them shine. 487 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: Now, can they carry shows? Ah, maybe not so. 488 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: Much if you because one thing that I want the 489 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: world to know is this, I create shows for a living. 490 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: When you create a show of the network, there's language 491 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: if you know how to do your contracts right where 492 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: you have the right to have spin offs, Yeah, meaning 493 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: create spin offs based only ensemble. If you were still 494 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: a part of Maritime Medicine, would you have created a. 495 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: Spin off for Quiet? And if so, what would that 496 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: spin off be? 497 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: So it may not have been the first spin off. 498 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: You know, I would have spent off married to medicine 499 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: in other cities. 500 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: I absolutely would have done that because I think it. 501 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: I think it's a medical hub in Houston for minorities, 502 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 4: a lot of places that it just you know, it 503 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: would have catapulted. 504 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: But for Quad, I think I would have did. 505 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: Just some simple I mean back to the basis finding 506 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: love or you know, you know her just being her funds. 507 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: She's a fun girl. She's a fun girl. 508 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: I think I would have just showed her outside of 509 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: the group. It almost seems like it take it's starting 510 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: to take away from her to me knowing her, but 511 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: knowing her at the show and like pre married to medicine. 512 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: When she started, I think it it was big, and 513 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: now it's almost kind of like it's I don't know, 514 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: it just doesn't seem like it's she's n I don't 515 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: see the growth like like she I don't think she's happy. 516 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 4: I don't think she would be with any of those 517 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: hang out with any of those women if she was 518 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: getting paid. 519 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: And that's evident to me. 520 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: Do you miss her? 521 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 4: I used to I don't anymore because I think she's 522 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: become so much like them. She's new like it's it's 523 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 4: it's a I think the only person that's kind of 524 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: the same as Toya love her a hater. 525 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 526 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 4: But I think Quad is more of a diva now 527 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: and that's not my personality. 528 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: Now. I read a bit, but you know that's not 529 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't do that. I'm extra credit, but 530 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: I don't treat people a certain That's not my thing. 531 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: She's a little different now. 532 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: She said to me that. 533 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: She always saw YouTube being like THEMLA Louise. 534 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: She didn't. I did, she didn't. Quad was ready to 535 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: go against. 536 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: Me first season, first season reunion, Go Back and look, 537 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 4: she was ready to go. I can tell you almost 538 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: to the day when they flew her to to California 539 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 4: and told her, you deserve to be number one, not 540 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 4: number two. When we was always a duo, I was 541 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: never I didn't I never got jealous a quad. I 542 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: never thought she was in a breakout star. I wouldn't 543 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: have had her on. I thought she was a star. 544 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 3: I did. 545 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: I thought she had something great. I thought we had 546 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: great chemistry, and I thought she was funny. It could 547 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: be I thought she if they really show it, like 548 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: they still haven't show. 549 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: I remember Qui having a breakdown in. 550 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 4: My garage first season, and the shit was so funny. 551 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: They missed so many moments and they got it on camera, 552 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: like she just couldn't adjust to the cameras initially, like 553 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: she was just you know, we're so real from Tennessee. 554 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: And it was hilarious trying to see her transition into 555 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: what they wanted her to be because they had their 556 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 4: minds who and what they wanted her to be, as 557 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 4: you know, as the underdog or whatever, versus just letting 558 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: it play out, you know. So I never thought that, honestly, 559 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 4: I went into it like that. 560 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: Everybody else around me seeing something different. 561 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 4: I thought that we were a duo and we were 562 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: going into it together. But I don't think that that 563 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: was really truly what it is what it was at all. 564 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: I was told that. 565 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: Allegedly you were jealous that Quad was the breakout star, 566 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: that you said something along the lines, she's ghetto. 567 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: How should the breakout star? 568 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: You guys had a dinner meeting at STK, got into 569 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: a physical altercation, no drinks were thrown, all that stuff 570 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: all because of this jealousy. 571 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: So I think the most insulting part for me is 572 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: that I was jealous of anybody on this show that 573 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: I gave an opportunity to. First of all, I'm a 574 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: smart girl. I know what comes with an ensemble cast. 575 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 4: Even though I hadn't produced a big show before, I knew. 576 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: What came with the territory. Believe you me, I did. 577 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: I could have easily went onto Housewives of Atlanta and 578 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: just been another star Ben Drum and just been about 579 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 4: myself or tried to pitch something about my show. 580 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: I thought we all. 581 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: Had stories to tell, and I thought that Quad and 582 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: I definitely had. 583 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: Stories to tell. We were because I thought we were unique. 584 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: I thought we came from Tennessee, you know, in a 585 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 4: sense of you know that country girl. I just thought 586 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: it was something different. I always expected her to blow up. 587 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 4: So the fact that they started saying that was just 588 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: crazy to me because I didn't think I wasn't the 589 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: breakout star or I didn't think. 590 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: The other ladies didn't do. 591 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 4: I didn't look at it like everybody else did. So 592 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: when they start saying that, it really threw me off 593 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: cause I never was jealous or looked at her like that. 594 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: You have to think that was my girlfriend. 595 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: I wanted her to be on this show by any 596 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: means now. So she wasn't married, and I casked her 597 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: on the. 598 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: Show, did she marry Greg to get on the show? 599 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: I I can't say that. I don't know. I don't 600 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: know why she I don't know you. 601 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Know why she married Greg. 602 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying no, no, no, I mean I 603 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: don't know. Greg was a nice guy. I thought he 604 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: was nice. But she was married. 605 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: I mean, she was dating my cousin, my first cousin, 606 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: So I had nothing to do with the integration with 607 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: her and Greg and them meeting or any of that. 608 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: So I can't I really can't speak to that. 609 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: I don't know. 610 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: Did she live with you? 611 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: Never? Never? 612 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: Mm mm, heavenly swears up and down. 613 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: No, So you know what it was. I'm made a 614 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: comment one time on the show. 615 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: Uh, I think to. 616 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: Toya and I made some I made a comment and 617 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: I said, you know what, she can't say anything because 618 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: her license plate was her address. When I you know, 619 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: you know, when we cause my sister and I helped 620 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: her get a place or something. 621 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: I don't you know, it's not even trying to get 622 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 3: credit for it. But that was the comment. 623 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: But she never lived I've never had a woman to 624 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: live with a married goddamn woman. 625 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: Do I look like TYPEGGA. No, she's never lived with. 626 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: Me or maybe even not even spent a night at 627 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 4: my house like we were girlfriends. 628 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: But we had boundaries. Yeah, so heavily. 629 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: It's telling the hot mess in Miami life. 630 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 631 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: When you inquired have that physical altercation in SDK, we didn't. 632 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't physical. I think she threw a let me 633 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: tell you what happened. 634 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: What happened. 635 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: She threw up my purse like she we was meeting 636 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: up there. She threw my purse and I tried to 637 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: get at her and everybody held me back. 638 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: That was a physical physical altercation. 639 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: She got in front of a group of people and 640 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: threw my bag and I flipped out. 641 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: I did no hair was being pulled. 642 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: No, No, we didn't touch each other. We was far. 643 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: It was never any No, me and. 644 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: Toya had a physical altercation. It's the only physical altercation 645 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: I've even been remotely close to. 646 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: There was no har No, she was over there. She 647 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 3: was over there, and I was over it. No, it 648 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: was not like that. 649 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: I thought you guys were testing on the Not at all. 650 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: Nothing else, I swear on my children. No, not at all, 651 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: not at all. She took my bab she was on one. 652 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: I think she was. 653 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: It was a ta see when she said m So 654 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: when we said we were meeting up there, I didn't 655 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: know she. 656 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: Was with a group of people. So she was a group. Uh. 657 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: She was with a group of like twenty people. 658 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: She was at like the head, like at the head 659 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 4: of the table, and I was sitting on the other 660 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: side and she and you know, I think I had 661 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: set my purse next to her or something. She took 662 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 4: my person through it and I tried to get at her, and. 663 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: That was it. That was it. I swear to god 664 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: that was it. 665 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: Never put our hands on each other anything like that. 666 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: So when that all of that came. 667 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: Out, it it just it. 668 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 4: Really tripped me out now, and I feel like it 669 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: was other people involved because we were hanging out, we 670 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 4: were drinking, and maybe that kind of played a part, 671 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: but it was never. 672 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: Never. 673 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: I didn't touch Quad and none of that, n nothing 674 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 4: like That's they would have loved to have shown that. 675 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: Think about that anything with me looking a certain kind 676 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: of way. 677 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: If that happened, you best. 678 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: Believed they would have shown that on every episode you see. 679 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm they still show the fight from season one. Yeah, 680 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 3: this ten seasons later. You know, you think they wouldn't 681 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: have shown that. 682 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: They just heard about us arguing or whatever, but they 683 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: I it was off season, we had an argument. 684 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that it had. 685 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 4: Made it to the season because it just really wasn't 686 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: that big of a deal to me. 687 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm glad you cleared that up because I 688 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: believe we all thought it was something bigger than what 689 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: it was. You now see the show they pushed Quad out. 690 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: Now, I don't think they push Squad out. 691 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: What do you think? 692 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: I think it's game? I don't think they push quadaut. 693 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: I think that people already are starting are stuttering and 694 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: going back on their words. 695 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 4: I think it's they want you to hate her then 696 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 4: love her. I don't think they've pushed her out. I 697 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: don't think so. I think they uninvited her or brought 698 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: her there. I think they umble her in their minds. 699 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 4: They want to humble her a bit, bring her down 700 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 4: a few, not just. They haven't pushed Squad out, and 701 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to. 702 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: I think it's game. 703 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: But why is that? 704 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: Because listen on my shows, there isn't this. And I 705 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: want you to stop me if I'm wrong. A maritime medicine, 706 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: which I have done plenty of, into be and I'll 707 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: always get asked if you could do one show, produce 708 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: one show. I always said, the Braxtons or maritime medicine, 709 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: and please give me Mariti medicine, like I just I love. 710 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: He was mad you didn't give me the show. But yeah, 711 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: I was snapper. 712 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: You know what, it ain't too late. 713 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: Because I was like, in my hands on these girls, 714 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: I would love it. 715 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: But it seems to me like that show is ran 716 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: in a way that I've never seen or experienced to 717 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: where it's like there's people behind the scenes pitting you girls. 718 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: Against each other, and that there. 719 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: Isn't anybody saying, like, you know what, that's not right. 720 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: And I'm a grown ass woman, I'm educated. I'm gonna 721 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: do what I want. 722 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: To do, and that's not the way I roll. 723 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: Is that the environment of that show? 724 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: I think so. 725 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: I think they've created such a hostile environment with so 726 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: much dissension that scares me that they can't. I hope 727 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 4: that they can find their way back to just be authentic, 728 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: because just if they're just all authentic, whether people love 729 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: them or hate. 730 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: Them, they will still watch them. 731 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 4: But they're becoming too typecast to me, you know, like 732 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 4: Jackie and Heavenly Friends just all I just see so 733 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 4: many things that it's what the producers want versus what's 734 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: natural to the ladies. To me, that's my perspective, that's 735 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: my perception of all of them. 736 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: Is the show living up to your vision? 737 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: No, not at all. 738 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: I'm happy that it's lived ten seasons. Yeah, I am, 739 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: and I think that's a blessing. It is, but not 740 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: at all, not at all. 741 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: I feel like what I brought to it, I don't 742 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: know I just it's not if they could do so 743 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: much more. 744 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: I think that they are doing well, and it because 745 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: The Housewives isn't at its peak, you know, But I 746 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: just I don't know it could do so much better. 747 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: Married to Medicine should be one of the top shows 748 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 4: in America to me, and has the potential to be that. 749 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: With the right producers and. 750 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 4: A few of the people, they could get a few 751 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: of the cast they could they I mean, I think 752 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: are essential, but some they can recast and don't be 753 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 4: afraid to bring in new blood. Can't You can't be 754 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: afraid to shake shit up. It's okay, I mean, it's 755 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 4: it's evolution. I mean, it happens, and if it meant 756 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: me leaving, so be it. 757 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: If it was best for the show or whatever. 758 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 4: But no, it's not living up to cause I don't 759 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: think that we've learned anything more. I think a lot 760 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 4: of the ladies looks like a lot of the ladies 761 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 4: look like one trick ponies. 762 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 3: To me, it's the. 763 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: Same old thing every season, Like why are they still 764 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 4: voting bitches off Island? 765 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: I just don't get it, Like, who does that? I 766 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 3: don't understand that? I don't Is that wrong? Don't. 767 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: No, no, And that's the reason why I started doing 768 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 2: these weekly recaps American Medicine. 769 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: We're Heavenly, Yeah, have you been watching it? I watched 770 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 3: this last one because. 771 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: They give me your thoughts. 772 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: I was so confused, not confused. I was so I mean, 773 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: it went from rain drops to muddy water. 774 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: I don't understand, Honey, tell me how this collaboration was inspired. 775 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: I just I was. 776 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: I was completely confused all up and through. And how 777 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 4: are you are giving a true, unbiased perspective doing it 778 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: with somebody that's on the show that it is the 779 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 4: missus bitch ownership? I don't get it. 780 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: Please do explain. 781 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: Well, oh, we know you love all the girls. 782 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: Yes you do, Yes, you do. You love the girls 783 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: and I love the show, and you do. 784 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: She is my dentist, and she's my friend, and she's 785 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: good television. 786 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 4: She is definitely a wildcard. And that's what I've always 787 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 4: thought of her. Heavenly is good TV when she's a wildcard. 788 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 3: I don't like Heavenly. They when she becomes what she thinks. 789 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: How I said, Heavenly is a type that. 790 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 4: She may not watch the show, but believe you me, 791 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 4: she is the girl that will read every comment to 792 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: see what they're saying about everybody else and become what 793 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 4: she thinks people want her to be. Believe it or not, 794 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 4: she is that girl reads every comment. Yeah, she thinks 795 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 4: she's the smartest person on earth. Trust me, Heavily knows 796 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: what the people are saying. So if they're saying X, 797 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: Y and Z, she's gonna regurgitate that and do that 798 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 4: or whatever. So I just think that heavenly if she 799 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: gets out of her own way and just really is honest. 800 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 4: Do you think in a perfect world, in the real world, 801 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 4: you think Heavily. 802 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 3: And Jacket would be friends? No, it just doesn't make sense. 803 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: No, And I said that to her. 804 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: And the reason why I love giving this show as 805 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: Flowers and having the platform to do it is because 806 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 2: I really want Eyeboss to be on this show. 807 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: Why why do you want eyeballs on the show so much? 808 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: Because as a black person in this space, I know 809 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: how we're marginalized. 810 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: I know that way. 811 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 4: When they marginalize me as the creator of the show. 812 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 4: So knowing and knowing that, how can you still rally 813 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: so hard for the very establishment that went against your girl. 814 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 2: That's a very good question and I'm gonna be very 815 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,479 Speaker 2: honest with you. I never looked at it that way 816 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: because I always looked at the institution because at the 817 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: end of the day, you did create the show, you 818 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: get the credit, and you get the coin. 819 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: Right. So for me, and I'm just telling you my truth. 820 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: Right, for me, it was all about making sure your 821 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: legacy stayed alive, because no matter what we do on 822 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: this earth, we are only beholden by the legacy in 823 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 2: which we leave. So here you have this black man 824 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 2: who's the king of reality television, who all of a 825 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: sudden has a hip podcast or hit YouTube channel, has 826 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: these eyeballs on him. I've said this since I was 827 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: a show runer on the Lane of Housewives. That's a 828 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: show that is the best on Bravo, Right, So me 829 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: giving flowers to this show, I'm gonna be very honest 830 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 2: with you, was me giving flowers to you too, because at. 831 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: The end of the day. 832 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 2: But I'm kind of how I see it. I saw 833 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: it like, people need to know about this show before 834 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 2: it becomes that's just another black show. Because what's happening 835 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 2: right now in scripted is a lot of black shows 836 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 2: are getting canceled, a lot of black scripted shows are 837 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 2: getting canceled, and I never wanted with my platform as 838 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: a black person to not interview black people. I've had 839 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: people say to me, you went from interviewing Needy Leaks 840 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: to Diamond from Love and Hip Hop, and I thought 841 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: to myself, yea Diamond the Love and hip Hop people. 842 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 2: I interview a chick named Monique and Derek. 843 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: Her Man from Love after lock Up. 844 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't care what show you on because so because 845 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: I don't have this platform just to like be cute 846 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: and we're nice sweaters and some and some rings. 847 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,959 Speaker 1: So for me, it was I wanted. 848 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: To make sure that this show was successful, not only 849 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 2: for the girls, but for you. And I know there's 850 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: other things associated with that show that isn't pleasing to me, 851 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: but as a black person, I know that the audience 852 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: don't care about that. They care about we want to 853 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 2: make sure this show survives. So that was my intention 854 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 2: to it. And I I'll say this though, I don't 855 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: think anyone besides Heavenly and You, because we're talking about it. 856 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm only talking about the people who said it to me. 857 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 2: You Quad and Heavenly have said it to me. I 858 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: don't feel like the rest of those girls except Toya. 859 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: I don't feel like they appreciate me giving this show 860 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: a voice. 861 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 4: So you don't feel like they appreciate you giving the 862 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 4: show a voice. And I don't think that they ever 863 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 4: appreciate me giving them a platform. 864 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 3: So imagine how. 865 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, so you get a just 866 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 4: a snippet of how I feel. So I felt like 867 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 4: they gave me their asses to kiss after I. 868 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: Shared what in Simone's What Simone said to me is 869 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: this is your dream. 870 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 4: I'm just hon she said this to me, not on camera, 871 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 4: but she said this is your dream. I am just 872 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 4: so elated that you will allowed us. 873 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: You shared your dream with us. 874 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, but it became a nightmare because I 875 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 4: did want to share it, and the libra in me 876 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 4: just didn't see anybody coming for me or anything like that, 877 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 4: you know. And I do think that we made history. 878 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 4: It's a great show, but I do think it was 879 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: a smack in the face, you know, the way it 880 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 4: turned out. 881 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: So I get that you. 882 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 4: Are giving the show a voice, and I appreciate it 883 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 4: because it does keep it alive and keep it going, 884 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 4: and it's huge that you do that. But I think 885 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: it's your love for unscripted, for reality TV, for the girls. 886 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's your love for the girls, A lot. 887 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: Of the girls I love well. 888 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 4: But you know how hard it is to create something. 889 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 4: It's this marit to medicine is my baby is and 890 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 4: always will be. 891 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 3: And they can't wipe me out of that. You know, 892 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 3: it's history. It's my history. But you know, to your 893 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: point earlier. 894 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: When you talk about legacy, I didn't want to leave 895 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 4: my legacy with them, you know, saying I did drugs. 896 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 3: I've never done drugs. 897 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 4: I created it like that, So that's not the way 898 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 4: you take me out of my legacy, not with This 899 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 4: is also my children's legacy. It's about generational wealth and 900 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 4: creating something where they can see years and. 901 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: Be proud of. How can I be proud of something I. 902 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 4: Created as being the first African American woman to create 903 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 4: a show on Bravo, star in it and executive produce it. 904 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 3: How can I be? 905 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 4: How can I be proud of it and tell my 906 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 4: children to watch When. 907 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 3: They're accusing me of drugs? How dare them? How fucking 908 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 3: dare them? I did it to go against that. We 909 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 3: have enough shows doing that. That is not my life 910 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: and That is not my vice. 911 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: This is my vice. 912 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 3: If they accuse me of red wine, I am guilty 913 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 3: and shot. 914 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 4: But anything else that you align on me, how dare you? 915 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: I just for me? It just it hit me in 916 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 3: a It just hit me. 917 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 4: It was a gut punch because I thought and then 918 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: these are they don't get These are all as Will 919 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 4: Ferrell will say, these are. 920 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 3: All learned doctors. 921 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 4: How could you allow them to accuse anybody on this 922 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 4: cast of drugs? Do you not know that backfires with 923 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 4: the hospital. 924 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 3: I was a drug rep. 925 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: I worked for the number one pharmaceuper company and the 926 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 4: world Pfefizer. 927 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: I sold the top two drugs in the world. Like, 928 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 3: I had millions of dollars of drugs in my storage. 929 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 3: Like it's just crazy. So for them to accuse me 930 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 3: of drugs, it's just crazy. 931 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: So that's not the legacy that I left behind. And 932 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 4: the fact that none of them had enough integrity or 933 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 4: balls to stand up as a hold up a minute. 934 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 3: I mean not agree with Mariah, but nah, this ain't it. 935 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 2: But that's my And I said this on my my 936 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: weekly recast with Heavenly I it's so obvious that there 937 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: and listen every ensemble. Shall always tell people there's alliances. 938 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: I there's alliances. I listen, I believe Quad. When Simone 939 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 2: allegedly said to her, I can't go against you. 940 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: Because I don't he said that. 941 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 4: No, I know, No, she absolutely quiet is not lying 942 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 4: because she's the person that said to me, they want 943 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 4: me to put the nail in your coffin, Simon, samm 944 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 4: is deep. Yeah, she's the person that said to me, 945 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: they want me to put the nail in your coffin, 946 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: but I'm not sure if I can do it. 947 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: So I'm a blonger. But some moon's a backstabber Agen. 948 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 3: That's the person everybody keeps saying. Quat the person I 949 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 3: had more Qua was my best friend. 950 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 4: Never was jealous of her, the world of her, honestly. 951 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 4: But Simone delivered my babies, deliver my sister babies, delivered 952 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 4: my cousin's babies. 953 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 3: My aunt was her nanny. 954 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 4: That's who I had allegiance to. Yeah, she brought life 955 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 4: in the world and my family. That's who my allegiance 956 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 4: was always to. Miss Simon old fence riding Simon, yeah, 957 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: mm hmm. 958 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 3: So when she said that's the. 959 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 4: Quat's NotI line, and I don't have a dog in 960 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 4: a fight, right, But if quad said she said. 961 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 3: That she said, and not the in QUI lie, she 962 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 3: lied on me. 963 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: But. 964 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 3: On that yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that hurts you. 965 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 2: I could tell, I could tell about your your knee jerk. 966 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: You literally had a knee jerk reaction. 967 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. 968 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 1: And I saw, I'm gonna tell you two moments. 969 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 2: That I knew that you really cared about the show 970 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: that knees your reaction to the cocaine accusation and then 971 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 2: and when Heavenly put the devil horns on your poster 972 00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: and I felt violent. 973 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 3: Well, the thig is I was a victimized. 974 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 2: Where you are black hair? 975 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna call you Katrina. 976 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 3: I am, I was. 977 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 4: Listen, I am, And I'm gonna tell you why when. 978 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: You get that you gave black hair advise, we call 979 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: her Katrina. 980 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. 981 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: She's from Miami Dade County. 982 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take that. 983 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: I'm season But because as a viewer I. 984 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: Would, We're gonna do a highlight. My favorite motus from 985 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: you is there's a lot you hilarious to me without trying. 986 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 2: Will you walk into the reunion with your firm as 987 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: let the best biggin. 988 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: And then when she uh the. 989 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 2: FAMERR poster, you said that YETO, shit, gotta go. 990 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: This is not Mare at the hip hop. She got 991 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: to go. 992 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: I feel like that because I thought that at. 993 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: That time you really was like, what has this show become? 994 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 3: I was, And let me tell you a lot of it. 995 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 4: So you know when Mary's medisone we do all the 996 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 4: reunions in New York. 997 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 3: Yes, and so. 998 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 4: Anybody will tell you like, and it's not for TV 999 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 4: or anything. I created a vibe, so I had I 1000 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 4: don't know, I can't tell you what's what craft services 1001 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 4: was because I created my own They all would tell 1002 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 4: you my entire team. 1003 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 3: I had a catered corner. 1004 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 4: Everybody came over there to my corner to eat. I 1005 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 4: have created a space because I like, I'm all about energy, ecstatic. 1006 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so I would have like I had a. 1007 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 4: Team to come and decorate the room, bring in furniture 1008 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 4: at the reunion in New York. 1009 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: You brought at your own reunion? 1010 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, they would, I kid you not? Yes, yes, 1011 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 3: So I had. 1012 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 4: A person to come in style the room, create everything. 1013 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 4: I'm all about an aura, I mean all about the aura. 1014 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 3: They'll tell you may I raised the bar. I raised 1015 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 3: the bar. 1016 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 4: I made those girls step it up, asked them. They 1017 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 4: came over to eat my food. My team look, and 1018 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 4: I do this every year, every year, every year, but 1019 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 4: it wasn't. This was so much shaf that I need 1020 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 4: to fill a certain kind of way. I want my 1021 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 4: team to fill a certain kind of way. 1022 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 3: And it's always a vibe. 1023 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 4: I'm about it. 1024 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 3: I'm about a vibe. We're gonna have a good time. 1025 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna ex because when you get out. 1026 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 3: On that stage, it's war. 1027 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: It is, it's war. 1028 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 3: So I created a whole vibe. So when she came 1029 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 3: in defaced my poster, like I was violated. She came 1030 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 3: in my room and see. 1031 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 4: Because I know my people and somebody would have throat 1032 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 4: punch heavily ass and then look, no dead ass for real, 1033 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 4: Like that was a seven hundred. 1034 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 3: I don't play like that. Don't tell my shit. I'm 1035 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 3: from Chattanooga, Tennessee. 1036 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 4: And while I'm living my best I don't get it twisted. 1037 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 4: She my first name is Lakeisha, and it was it 1038 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 4: almost I just shrut the reunion down by my ship. 1039 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 4: Don't bother my ship. Don't come in my room and 1040 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 4: bother my stuff. No, I was felt very violated. Now 1041 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 4: if I would have went up in there and cut 1042 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 4: up her reunion dress like see once people go low, like, 1043 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 4: don't go low and then get mad at me when 1044 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 4: I go to the bows. 1045 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 3: Of hell, like, I don't want to do that. 1046 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 4: You stay on your side and I'll do the same. 1047 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 4: And they thought it was kecky. You know, I didn't 1048 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 4: want to keicky in legs mac. I didn't like that, 1049 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 4: don't bother my stuff. So I was violated. 1050 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 3: And my white friends was there. 1051 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: They was like, I'm going to. 1052 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,919 Speaker 4: Kick her, and I was like, hold on a minute, 1053 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 4: let's not do that. 1054 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 2: Because God, because I am a huge fan of unscripted, 1055 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 2: I'm the king of reality. Also because I just I 1056 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 2: just love this genre so much. Me too, I watched 1057 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 2: that scene at least once a week. And you have 1058 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 2: this white male friend with silver hair who looks so appalled. 1059 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 3: I mean it was trade. He looked so appalled. Just 1060 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 3: but that to me was he said that bit to go. 1061 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 4: I'm talking And he went out there and said to Andy, 1062 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 4: he sak, you know enough enough, Yes, tray, honey, she 1063 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 4: had to go. All my people was like you want 1064 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 4: me to get her, you want me to get I'm 1065 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 4: gonna get her. It was one of those moments. And 1066 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 4: you talking about TV, it was the whole show. 1067 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 2: I said this to the girls too. I said the 1068 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 2: show was epic when you were on and you can't 1069 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 2: deny that, but now. 1070 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 3: It's quad shaw. 1071 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 2: Did I say that you better give me together? 1072 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: Baby? I said she was a breakout star. 1073 00:50:59,520 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 2: She is. 1074 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: Are okay? I think that you don't watch the show often? No, 1075 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't okay to me? 1076 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 2: And I said to say he La every Monday. The 1077 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 2: show is boring without her on it. 1078 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: Not saying she made. 1079 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 2: The show by herself. It's the the ensemble and you. 1080 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: I always tell people it's like the starting five lineup 1081 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 2: in a baseball game. Lebron cannot do everything without his support. 1082 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 2: Beyonce's Beyonce because she had Kelly latav and LaToya Michelle 1083 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 2: behind her or next to her, or you know, is 1084 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 2: that Michael Jordan, Nita Scottie Pippen. 1085 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: And my issue with. 1086 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 2: Merriton Medicine was can you girls put the ego aside 1087 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: and do what's best for. 1088 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 3: The show that with me? 1089 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,439 Speaker 2: And I told so what you don't know I don't 1090 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 2: think you know this, No, I don't. Heavenly during quarantine, 1091 00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 2: that's when Heavenly started her YouTube channel, and yeah, and 1092 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: she invited me on and Melody at that time as 1093 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 2: Melody Holte from Love and Marriage. Meloie's great, she's a 1094 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 2: great girl. And this is before any announcement came about 1095 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 2: you coming back or not. I said to her, y'all 1096 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,240 Speaker 2: can watch it. I said, let me tell you something 1097 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 2: I feel like and I'm paraphrasing, but I feel like 1098 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 2: you're icing Mariah out. 1099 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: Listen to me. 1100 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: Now, don't you ever do anything that's not good for 1101 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: the show. It's it's don't do it because I've seen 1102 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,760 Speaker 2: I did a lot of Housewives. Yeah, and I saw 1103 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 2: sometimes they were going down that road of well, we 1104 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: don't and I would say that you don't cast and 1105 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 2: you don't fire. Your job is to sit there, be real, 1106 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: tell your real. 1107 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: Story and film. 1108 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 2: What's happening now in unscripted is this mob mentality. I'm 1109 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 2: seeing it on Salt Lake City, I'm seeing it on Potomac. 1110 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 2: It's it's like you need to go and what they 1111 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 2: do is they ce you out. I haven't seen in 1112 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: the way marrit to medicine has done it to you 1113 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: or to Quad, and haven't. 1114 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 3: Done the same thing to Quad that they have. 1115 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it's definitely separate. No, it's definitely separate. 1116 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 3: But it's not the same, right. 1117 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 2: No, And I wasn't trying to make it the same 1118 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 2: in terms of what we as the audience have felt, 1119 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 2: but that to me would be the destruction of the show. 1120 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 3: I think they're doing it more to Sweet Tea. I 1121 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 3: think they did it to Buffy. I think they kind 1122 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 3: of iced her, like why why is Buffy not? 1123 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, Janie, I want to hear your I heard 1124 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 2: the real villain on the show? 1125 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 3: Is I heard? Absolutely? That's the fucking music. 1126 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. 1127 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 2: New episode drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Share, comment, follow, 1128 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 2: and subscribe to Reality with the King wherever you get 1129 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,479 Speaker 2: your podcast. Visit Reality Withtheking dot com and be sure 1130 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 2: to follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, 1131 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 2: and yes, Baby, my YouTube channel where you could get 1132 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,479 Speaker 2: all of my visuals, baby, my expressions. 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