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Speaker 2: Good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, January seventeenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm j E.

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Speaker 2: Skets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as

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Speaker 2: always Task.

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Speaker 2: sha hot boy, Trey Kirby Hehio hey yo, and over

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Speaker 2: rating and review. We are going to recap all three

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Speaker 2: of last night's games. We're going to hit the beach

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Speaker 2: a little bit later because it's freezing cold here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Task has tweeted the night but Man last night, Sham's

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Speaker 2: Shams and Sam at the Athletic that the Raptors and

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Speaker 2: Pacers are in active talks on a deal that would

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Speaker 2: send Pascal Siakam, a mainstay in the rumor mill for

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Speaker 2: I guess several seasons now to Indiana in exchange for

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Speaker 2: a package that includes Bruce Brown his cowboy hat, I believe,

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Speaker 2: some other salaries and then three first round picks, and

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Speaker 2: that's gotten everyone very intrigued. Three first round picks for Siaka.

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Speaker 2: This guy's on an expiring deal. Anyway, nothing has happened

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Speaker 2: as of yet. It won't be official until I don't

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Speaker 2: know ten fifteen minutes after we do this podcast. But

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Speaker 2: what do you think here of Shaan's and Sam's report

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Speaker 2: last night?

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Speaker 3: Pascal lovers, this one's for you. Pascal Siakam to be

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Speaker 3: dealt for three first round picks. It may seem high,

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Speaker 3: but I think if there's one team that could trade

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Speaker 3: high for Pascal Siakam, it is the Indiana Pacers. They

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Speaker 3: basically aren't paying anybody next year other than Halburton. They've

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Speaker 3: got lots of room to give for him. This guy

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Speaker 3: could be the best guy that they could get in

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Speaker 3: free agency as well, because there are some guys who

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Speaker 3: will be free agents, but they could be signed to

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Speaker 3: other deals by then. I think this is a team

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Speaker 3: that could offer him the max, A team that desperately

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Speaker 3: needs defense, a guy that can guard one through four,

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Speaker 3: one through five. He'll be thirty this free agency when

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Speaker 3: it comes to it. So are they giving up a

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Speaker 3: lot for an older guy that may not even sign there?

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Speaker 3: I suppose you could think that, But thirty ain't that old.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's going to play on the ground

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Speaker 3: a lot. I think he'll be fine. I do like

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Speaker 3: to think the Raptors would keep him. But after making

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Speaker 3: the Quickly and Barrett deal to go along with Barnes,

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Speaker 3: I understand why they would move Siakam to get a

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Speaker 3: hell of a lot younger like the rest of their

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Speaker 3: timeline is, and to get Bruce Brown in a darker

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Speaker 3: Reakovic team that just wants to drive kick and repeat,

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Speaker 3: drift kick and repeat, draft kick and repeat. He would

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Speaker 3: fit in. But who knows. We're talking about it right

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Speaker 3: now here, Wednesday, January seventeenth. If this will happen? Is

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Speaker 3: this a rumor just to drive up the Costay Sacramento Kingks,

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Speaker 3: are you listening? You need somebody you want to play

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Speaker 3: small balls about this si bonus? Get Pascal Siakam behind him. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia seventy six ers, just go for it. So who knows?

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Speaker 3: If this happens but it sort of makes sense even

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Speaker 3: though that those are picks are also probably just going

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Speaker 3: Their Pacer picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Indiana currently owns a twenty twenty four first

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Speaker 2: It's very complicated, okay, but there's an extra first round

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Speaker 3: Currently number twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And then they own allam pick, right,

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Speaker 2: they own all of their own picks. The Pacers do

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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four to two thousand and thirty, so

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Speaker 2: they have their own. But what do you think about

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Speaker 2: the sort of idea of going all in with three

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Speaker 4: What do you think it's a lot to give up

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Speaker 4: for Pascal Siakam. It's not totally similar to the Bulls

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Speaker 4: training for Nikolovuchevich coming off two all star seasons.

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Speaker 3: He was thirty at the time.

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Speaker 4: Like you're saying, ta, Siakam will be turning thirty and

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Speaker 4: not too long here. And it probably makes the Pacers

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Speaker 3: So why would the Indiana do this.

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Speaker 4: They haven't one a playoff series in ten years. That's

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Speaker 4: surprising to me. I thought it would have been a

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Speaker 4: they would lose the first round series, and then the

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Speaker 4: past couple of seasons it's been play in and out.

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Speaker 3: Giving up three.

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Speaker 4: First round picks for a guy you're not sure would resign,

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Speaker 4: that's a big risk. But like you're saying, what they're

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Speaker 4: betting on is that Siakam would enjoy playing next to

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Speaker 4: Tyrese Haliburton, rather than just rolling the dice and saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: Four months, yeah, six months of proof of concept to

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Speaker 4: see how you fit next to Siakam. So, yeah, the

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Speaker 4: money for the Pacers I ain't really that big of

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Speaker 4: a deal because they have the lowest payroll in the

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Speaker 4: in the offseason, and they just have to think it's

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Speaker 4: And if it's the Raptors, do that deal in a

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Speaker 4: second Bruce Brown win now, guy, they can stay competitive

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Speaker 4: him go and try something in free agency. Plus three

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Speaker 4: first round picks, even if they're in the late twenties,

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Speaker 4: you can package those and trade him for somebody, maybe

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Speaker 4: a Siakam in the future.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, Indiana would likely need to still add

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Speaker 2: about eight million dollars in salary to make this, again

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Speaker 2: hypothetical work. So I think Hollinger had it out there.

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Speaker 2: Bruce Brown, Jordan Nora, Obi Toppin, and then the three

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Speaker 2: first round picks that would be a salary match. All

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Speaker 2: three of those guys would be expiring or could be

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Speaker 2: Brown has that team option, like trade just said, next

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Speaker 2: season at twenty three million Indy could take back Otto

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Speaker 2: So maybe you're looking at something like that. But obviously

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Speaker 2: will be topping, going back to play with this old

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Speaker 2: Knicks bros. There maybe in RJ. Barrett and quickly and

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Speaker 2: then the picks. That's the real takeaway here, I assume

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Speaker 2: I saw here in the article quote sources briefed on

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Speaker 2: trade talks between the two teams say that there have

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Speaker 2: been several back and forth proposals made. I wonder how

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Speaker 2: that's gone. Masai going, all right, we'll trade you Seakam,

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Speaker 2: but we want Benedict Mathrin pacer saying no, we're not

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Speaker 2: doing that. Okay. We want Jarris Walker pacer saying no,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I assume it's something like this, Okay, well

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Speaker 2: you gotta give us more draft picks. Okay, we can

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Speaker 2: maybe do that. And we're still figuring it out because

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Speaker 2: I assume the picks are nice. But a lot of

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Speaker 2: reports were like mission Bobby Webster on the Raptor side.

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Speaker 2: They do want like a young prospect, a young player.

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Speaker 2: Brice Brown is good, but maybe not the type a

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Speaker 2: would dey want one of those other guys. Of course

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Speaker 2: they would want one of those other guys from the Pacers,

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Speaker 2: but Pacers should be smart to hold on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew and I'm hard another Canadian on the Tronto Raptor.

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Speaker 3: It seems like they're trading for every Canadian out there

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Speaker 3: that could work. Even the Buddy Heels who is an

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Speaker 3: The Raps could let Gary Trent go this offseason so

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Speaker 3: Buddy could fill in there if he's to get another one.

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Speaker 3: I know he is an older player, but really, this

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Speaker 3: is what the Pacers want to do. They want to

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Speaker 3: get somebody on their team instead of just waiting for

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Speaker 3: July first and say can you come here? Can you

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Speaker 3: come here? They just hope that they can get but

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Speaker 3: they can get Pascal Siakam and say we will give

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Speaker 3: you a max deal and win the bargaining because their

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Speaker 3: team that needs to do and they have lots of

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Speaker 3: they have lots of money come next season. Really it's

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Speaker 3: Haliburton signed to a big deal, and then it's mouse

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Speaker 3: what the Pacers are trying to win here, And maybe

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Speaker 3: last year they didn't get a thing for Scottie Barnes

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Speaker 2: Other final thoughts on the likelihood of Pacers Raptors Sakham

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Speaker 2: deal go with down here today this week in the

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Speaker 2: three weeks coming.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see Bruce Brown at the Calgary Stampede.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you would enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Girl.

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Speaker 2: It would absolutely have a blast and we can make

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Speaker 2: that happen. Sure whether he's in Toronto or not. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's get to the games last week. Camera. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 2: we'll try and get Bruce Brown there. Okay, the games

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Speaker 2: last night. Let's start with dwelling Bead scoring forty one

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Speaker 2: out dueling Yolkic as the Sixers topped the Nuggets. We

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Speaker 2: you watching on YouTube as we simulcasted the game. Embiid

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Speaker 2: nineteen boards, including a career high eleven offensive rebounds. Old

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Speaker 2: Embiid late there, tk scoring up I believe ten consecutive

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Speaker 2: what it was, and he gets another win over Yokich

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Speaker 2: and Philly picks up a big one.

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Speaker 4: Shades of forty seven and eighteen last year in Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: against Jokich in Philadelphia. What I'm just saying Philadelphia over

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Speaker 4: But basically, the Nuggets have no way to guard Joel Embiid. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Embiid took over in the fourth quarter, scoring ten straight

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Speaker 3: So it was cool to see that. It's cool to

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Speaker 2: There was a little defense played on Jamal Murray down

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Speaker 2: So pretty impressive game then from Embid, I love the assists,

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't just the corners though. The Nuggets to me,

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Speaker 4: One of them he threw a bounce pass hit Yo

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Speaker 4: they also got great X Factor performances. Tobias Harris eight

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Speaker 2: Morey or the Sixers or any team really like trying

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Speaker 2: But let's be honest, all of their success hinges on

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Speaker 2: embid like he should have a Dirk run in him

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Speaker 3: They have enough.

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Speaker 2: I think that's they're they're they're proving that to me

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Speaker 3: But we just we see a different guy in April

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Speaker 2: I have two sort of weird questions about him Beid.

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Speaker 2: One when it comes to MVP. Let's say he plays

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Speaker 2: sixty four Gameiams and you had a ballot, your Tim Bontemps,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, why would you well to like sort of

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Speaker 2: That's why I was curious whether it could maybe we

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Speaker 2: You're good if you just do it to the crowd,

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Speaker 3: It at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm just calling and one on them block it versus sucking.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, if the fans keep copying him, the find

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Speaker 3: be gone. It's funny because embiid never plays more than

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Speaker 3: seventy games, even last year when he won the MVP.

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Speaker 3: What was sixty six last year, sixty eight the year before.

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Speaker 3: He's never played in seventy games, so that's what he

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Speaker 3: guy to be great in the postseason, just because it's hard.

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Speaker 3: six games last year, So if he plays sixty four,

433
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Speaker 3: what's a freaking.

434
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Speaker 2: You know it's gonna happen. You know he's gonna be

435
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 2: right there at the threshold, and then there's gonna be

436
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 2: a massive debate. And that's why I was wondering, like, yeah,

437
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,200
Speaker 2: Canzach Loow? I Guesszach Loow doesn't want to vote for

438
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,880
Speaker 2: this stuff anymore, at least for all NBA. But yeah,

439
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,479
Speaker 2: well they'd be like, no, I'm giving it to them,

440
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,199
Speaker 2: and they're like, you can't do that, Zach. He's like,

441
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,120
Speaker 2: I don't care, my principal. So we'll see.

442
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 3: Let's move on.

443
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 2: The Suns. They ended the game with a twenty three

444
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 2: to four run. They beat the Kings one nineteen, one

445
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 2: seventeen on Katie's free throws. Fox getting a little too

446
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,479
Speaker 2: close there got him on the arm. It was a foul,

447
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,680
Speaker 2: he hits them, they win. The Kings man just threw

448
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 2: away two games in a row. I mean, this is

449
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 2: just classic Kings here. This is brutal. They couldn't hit

450
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 2: free throws to put away Milwaukee the other night, and

451
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 2: then this one, complete collapse down the stretch. A little

452
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 2: prevention offense never did them any good bad shots, bad defense,

453
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 2: and they lose. Uh and a big part of it

454
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 2: Vogel going small, putting Katie at the five, and then

455
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 2: they ripped off this run. But uh oh Sacramento, man,

456
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: oh man, they just have gut punch loss after gut

457
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 2: punch loss. They're either getting waxed by the Pelicans that

458
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: could never beat, They're losing to the Hornets, they're losing

459
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: to the Blazers, or then they're playing really good teams.

460
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 2: They look like the better team for like forty minutes

461
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 2: of the game and then give it away.

462
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Speaker 3: That's why they got a trade for Pascal. Yeah, they

463
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 3: just go all in. It was interesting seeing Kevin Durant

464
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 3: at the five spot the last five minutes and eleven seconds.

465
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: They decided, Okay, Katie, you're going to the five, and

466
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 3: that's when they went on that twenty three to four

467
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: run to end this game. And I wonder if in

468
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: the future here they're going to play Kevin Durant in

469
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 3: key moments in fourth quarters at the five. It's a

470
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: little like the Golden State Warriors decided, Okay, you know

471
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,959
Speaker 3: when they won the championship, we'll play Draymond Green at

472
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 3: the five. Durant literally could be starting at the four.

473
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: For sure, Nurkic is gonna play, but to decide how

474
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna beat teams, that could be the way. And

475
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 3: Durant obviously was hot on both ends. Fifteen points in

476
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: that fourth quarter score. He was just scorching on that end.

477
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: But then the block the number five, the block of

478
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: dearon Fox while just standing up at the three point line.

479
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: He didn't jump, He just stood there and block standing

480
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: from the right side of him against the lefty and

481
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 3: was able to just reach across. He could have maybe

482
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: called it a foul, but Durant I think likes it.

483
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: He's apparently talked to Frank Vogelle about it in even

484
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 3: the offseason. But maybe maybe it's because he is a

485
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: little bit older and he just wants to be at

486
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: that end as much as possible. But it's kind of

487
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 3: tax yeah, because you're gonna switch every single time. That's

488
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 3: what they're gonna do. It was weird because the Kings

489
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 3: have beaten this team twice already this season, and it

490
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: looked like it was coming again.

491
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Speaker 2: It should have been number three here, but they gave

492
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: it all away. Grayson Allen had an awesome game.

493
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Speaker 4: This guy's hooping, no doubt. Twenty nine points last night,

494
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 4: nine threes. If you want to be generous, you could

495
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 4: say he had a near five by five, five rebound,

496
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 4: six assists, two steals, and two blocks. He's stuff in

497
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 4: the stat sheet guy. Second time in two weeks he's

498
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 4: made nine to three pointers. He's shooting forty eight percent

499
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 4: on the season in January thirty two for sixty that's

500
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 4: pretty Good's shooting fifty six percent from the corners, and

501
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 4: he's always in the corners. He had five last night

502
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 4: against Sacramento just from the corners. The Suns are not

503
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: a huge three point shooting team, but they made six

504
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 4: in the last eight minutes of this game. Going small,

505
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 4: they switched everything. The Kings got really stagnant trying to

506
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: attack switches. It turned into one on one basketball. It

507
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 4: was very similar to me to the way the Warriors

508
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 4: used to be. Actually, when they got Kevin Durant, that's

509
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: why they got him, because teams figured out, you play

510
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 4: ball movement, you want to do dribble handoffs, you want

511
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 4: everybody wheeling around the perimeter, So we switch everything. It

512
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 4: makes it tough, turns it into a one on one game.

513
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 4: And that's definitely what happened last night. Then the Suns

514
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: were smart, they ran in transition, they were getting out

515
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 4: into the open court. I thought a lot in that

516
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 4: fourth quarter comeback. And that's a nice win. Nice win

517
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: for the Suns. Disappointing loss for the Kings, but they

518
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: got a better record through forty games than they did

519
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 4: last year.

520
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's just like some of these they've

521
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: just like they've blown so many games they should have won.

522
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: They should have a much better record. But that was

523
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: a hell of a comeback. And I shared the clip.

524
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 2: I think you saw it there on Twitter this morning too.

525
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: They were up three, they were hanging on Sacramento was

526
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: and for some reason they like have some bonus their

527
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: center like over half court. You know, I get the

528
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: idea they're trying to get like the eight second violation

529
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: on the Suns. But he falls over and then they're

530
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: complete disadvantage. There's no rotations and Eric Gordon again. They're

531
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: down three with like forty five seconds to go. They

532
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 2: need a three or a kneasy basket, and he's just

533
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: wide opening in the corner and you get ping, ping, ping,

534
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: like no one even.

535
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 3: Close to him, no one even close.

536
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like that's embarrassing, Like what was

537
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: the bonus out there? Sure fair? I know why if

538
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: he's out there, why is he at half cool? Yeah,

539
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: it's insanity. So they deserve to lose when they do

540
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: boneheaded things like that. But wow, why to come back

541
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: from Phoenix in a game that Booker didn't really play

542
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: all that well, and or even Beale. It was Katie

543
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: and Grayson Allen. Grayson Allen gonna be in the three

544
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: point contest, I guess. So yeah.

545
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Sun's broadcasters, Hey Johnson was yelling about it.

546
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: We better see him in that three point contest. And

547
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 3: it's funny to see Grace now because it's that you

548
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: get the typical ride with Grace Allen twenty nine and

549
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: twenty his last two games, oh yeah baby, two games

550
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: before that, five and eight, respectively. It's the Grays and

551
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: Allen experience.

552
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: But but overall on the season, he's probably been the

553
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: best support player to the big three sons.

554
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because everybody is sort of up in depth.

555
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: Eric Gordon started hot, but as cool down, that's for sure.

556
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: But he had a couple of big threes obviously.

557
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: Yes, wide open.

558
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 3: It's an interesting team, an interesting team there.

559
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: The other game from last night, Paul George scored a

560
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: season high thirty eight points to lead the Clippers over

561
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: the Thunder. Entertaining game. You know, the Thunder were down

562
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: by a decent amount, they stormed back, they took a

563
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: one point lead, and then Paul George said no, no, no,

564
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: not tonight. He scored eleven of the clippers next fourteen,

565
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: hit a couple threes, had that big steal and dunk

566
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 2: to sort of ice the game, and just an awesome

567
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: line thirty eight points, six to three, seven boards, five assists,

568
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: zero turnovers. This guy's on his way to making his

569
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: ninth All Star appearance. Like he's gonna be on the team,

570
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: I assume with the way he's played in twenty twenty

571
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: four and the way the Clippers are like putting together

572
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: all these wins, sort of be shocked if the coaches

573
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: don't select him at this point.

574
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 3: What about Kahi?

575
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: Both of them, I think they'll both be there, honestly,

576
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean I think they're I mean, he's.

577
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: Having All Stars in the West.

578
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they're more guard heavy. I feel like

579
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: I think they'll be okay at the former position.

580
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: But they're halving themselves the way they're rising up their standings. Yeah,

581
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 3: because there's not gonna be many teams that get two guys.

582
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: That's that's one hundred percent true. But they are climbing

583
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: locking in that fourth seed right now.

584
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is without Zubats, who is going to

585
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: be out for at least four weeks. And so the

586
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: plumb dog gets the start, he has a good game him,

587
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: Entice sort of have the center minutes there and they

588
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: get this victory. Again, this would have a fun game,

589
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: like really really good game between two good teams in

590
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: the Western Conference. But really, Paul George just took over

591
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: there TK.

592
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, eighteen points in the fourth quarter, and you see

593
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 4: the benefits of having Kawhi, Leonard and Paul George out there.

594
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: There's only one tall wing on the thunder who could

595
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: guard last night. Jalen Williams was on Kawi for a

596
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: lot of this, which left lou Dort on Paul George.

597
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: Lou Dort was giving great effort. He was there for

598
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 4: the contest, but he is five inches shorter than Paul George,

599
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: so he was just shooting over top of him. That

600
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: dunk really surprised me. I thought he was going for

601
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: a layup and he threw down a reverse that was

602
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: pretty nice. And like you mentioned, Zubots out four weeks.

603
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: Luckily they got Mason Plumley back right at the same time,

604
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: they don't play the exact same way. You know, Zoo's

605
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: a lot bulkier Plumbley I feel like has a little

606
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: bit more passing skill, you know, something like that. But

607
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 4: they're both role guys as compared to Tye, who kind

608
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 4: of hangs out at the elbows a little bit more so.

609
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: It's nice that they got their Zubot's clone back rather

610
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 4: than having to like figure out a five five out

611
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: sort of deal. Good stuff from the Clippers and good

612
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 4: stuff from the Thunder, I thought, actually getting back into

613
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: the game. Jayalen Williams was the leader of that. To me,

614
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: they just got out into transition all the time, and

615
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 4: he was the guy either pushing, addishing it, or just scoring.

616
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: I thought he had a great game. Yeah, it is

617
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: great to see Mason plumbing back because he was saying

618
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: a couple weeks ago he said, I don't need to

619
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: go back, coach, just just play Daniel Tice because he's

620
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: willing to sacrifice. Everybody willing to sacrifice on this team, obviously,

621
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: Paul George, Russell Westbrook, James Harden. We don't have to

622
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 3: be number one guys. Let's just do our thing. And

623
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: so he is desperately needed right now. Set up Paul

624
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: George with that beautiful backcut pass early on in the

625
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Paul George doesn't usually make that backcut, but

626
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: he he was trying things and that's why he had

627
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: such a great fourth. Set you up with a crossover,

628
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: quick quick three hit three's from the corner seven of

629
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: nine in that fourth quarter, and then sealed it with

630
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: that dunk one twenty left with the steal, and it's

631
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 3: more like a two seventy three sixty type dunk than

632
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: a reverse doun because it's not like his back was

633
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: facing the facing the rim. It looked like more like

634
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: his dunk in the Dunk contest way back when he

635
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: was in there. So he's looking like he can take over,

636
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: and he's playing for a contract. Maybe Saint just this,

637
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: Saint just you're into it, Dome Kawhi Leonard, I got

638
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: to get so interesting to stop this offseason because it is.

639
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: Say some of those toilets for me, Kawhi.

640
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just started selling season seats only after the

641
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: Kauhi contract. They don't know what their team is, so

642
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: they had to decide, all right, we're gonna sign a

643
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: guy because Paul George could be a free agent. Harden's

644
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: already won, Westbrook has already won, and uh yeah, who

645
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: gets the middle Stallhi fighting for stalls, not the lockers

646
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: the middle stock harder, ye, Honor, I share a wall

647
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: with two guys.

648
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: I would rather have an install, Yeah, I'd rather have

649
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: an Yeah, James Harden's the middle stalling.

650
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Westbrook, dude, you.

651
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: Guys might be right now. The think about like there's

652
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: a lot of talent in this league and in the

653
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: West that Paul Georgia maybe gets squeezed and maybe doesn't

654
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: make an All Star team again, but two things going

655
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: for him or maybe three. One the Clippers record as

656
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: they're putting together these wins. Like I said, they're on

657
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: a hot streak. To the timing of it, all, right,

658
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: you want to have your best month, probably like in January.

659
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: You'd prefer that more than maybe the first month of

660
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: the season because it's like fresh in the coach's minds.

661
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, Paul George is averaging twenty seven

662
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: and a half points per game, five and a half boards,

663
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: three assists, and he barely turns the ball over right now,

664
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 2: shooting fifty three percent from the field and forty eight

665
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: percent from deep. Again, that's in twenty twenty four, so

666
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: that's going for him. And then the final thing is,

667
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: you know, Paul George was an All Star last season,

668
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: and these coaches they tend to be like, hey, that

669
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: guy's an All Star. That guys any time All Star man,

670
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: he's still awesome. Okay, you're an All Star.

671
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: Guy's exactly what happened last year.

672
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: I think I think he actually just the timing of

673
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: all this and how he's playing too. Like, don't get

674
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: me wrong, I think he might get in there when

675
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: the coach is select but we'll see anything else from

676
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: those games. I know we got more on Balmer and

677
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: the into It Dome.

678
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: A little bit later. No, it was great to see

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Speaker 3: podcast P playoff pe. I couldn't think of a closing

680
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Speaker 3: word that started with pe that was perfect for him

681
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: because this was the was that perfect P. Yeah, but

682
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: more of a closure game because he was you know,

683
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: twenty eight and the second half eighteen. In the fourth quarter,

684
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: there's I sent an there's there are some piece out there.

685
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: Put them away, Pee, put them away, Pee. That's pretty good.

686
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: That's nice.

687
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: Put them put them away.

688
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: Put it on Basketball Reference. Put him away Pee. When

689
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: he goes off in the fourth quarter. I like that. Okay,

690
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: we gotta take a break. When we come back, though,

691
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: we're hitting the beach to answer your questions. Don't go anywhere. Okay,

692
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: it's absolutely freezing here in the Classic Factory, So let's

693
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: hit the beach. I count the buckets. I counted chat,

694
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: you got that six shack down, blah blah blah, you

695
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: do that special. Oh yeah, let's go to the beach

696
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: like we're vinced Cellini, and let's read some of your

697
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: emails and your tweets and your YouTube comments and get

698
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: to some of the questions that you guys had. We

699
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: had some good ones here. First one comes from Nathan

700
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Benjamin in NYC. I recently dove into the whimsical world

701
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: of NBA Twitter and stumbled upon a thread by John

702
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: Carralis discussing the NBA belt. Oh yeah, I remember that.

703
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: In another corner of the Twitter verse, I found at

704
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: Dwight's Face offers a unique statistic tracking the frequency of

705
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: Dwight Powell getting hit in the face during a game.

706
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: I didn't know about this account. I'm gonna follow this.

707
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: This leads me to ponder about the rich lore of

708
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: unofficial NBA statistics. The Wedgie, for instance, has become an

709
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: iconic part of NBA culture. My question to you, the

710
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: experts of the hardwood, is this, What other unconventional or

711
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: unofficial NBA stats or trends do you think deserve recognition

712
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: and tracking? Again, that's from Nathan in NYC. You can

713
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: go follow Nathan there on the Twitter slash x. Who's

714
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: got a good answer for this? What unconventional unofficial NBA stats?

715
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: Who we start tracking?

716
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: I've got too many answers. I'll do one just quickie.

717
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: This is uh totally from last night. I had others

718
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: on the list, and then I just saw Kevin Durant

719
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: stand and make a block shot without jumping. So I

720
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: just want standing blocks, literally, guys that don't have to jump,

721
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: and just see who's who's who's got them in the

722
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: in the league. Because Victor woman Yamba could have one.

723
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: He almost blocked John Morant when John rant to dunk

724
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: two hand dunked him on on him uh after that crossover.

725
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: So just a block shot without jumping. We'll start with

726
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: that jump both.

727
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: Do you have to be on the ground or will

728
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: we have like detailed stats like one foot's on the ground.

729
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is going to be annoying for everybody working

730
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: at the sideline. Did his toe leave the floor? Did

731
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: his one foot leave the floor? It's tough. Did he

732
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: did heels as well? Yeah? Yeah, I think I think

733
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: if any part of your foot is on the floor counts,

734
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: you're not jumping. Yeah, true, you're just reaching. Okay, So

735
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: we'll start with that one.

736
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: Right, you're not technically jumping even if just one foots

737
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: in the air. Yeah, and he is on the floor.

738
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: He'd have to be on the floor foot feet foot whatever.

739
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: Standing blocks we're tracking that. I like that.

740
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: I would also add the stipulation the block has got

741
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: to be above the waist because you get a lot

742
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: of a lot of noise from low strips Carmelo, Anthony

743
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: low strips, Alex Cruso low strips, and.

744
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: They sometimes count as blocks.

745
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what guy's going on? Exactly?

746
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have to be more, That's what I'm saying,

747
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: Like above the waist shot shown up. But when Banama

748
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: would lead that, yeah, every single.

749
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: Season, thinks could be. Yeah, I mean, you got oj

750
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: really good this year?

751
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.

752
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, when he was somebody else in the first couple

753
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: of weeks in the season to I forget who it was.

754
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm trying to picture, Like, does Chet have

755
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: any standing blocks?

756
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure he does, he does, for sure. Yeah I

757
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: saw one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

758
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I like it. Who do you got?

759
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: What do you got jump ball win percentage?

760
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Sure? Who wins the most jump balls?

761
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I find out that it already exists on a

762
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: website called I'm not joking Other basketball stats dot com.

763
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 2: Whoa wow ahead of us?

764
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: Here Other basketball stats dot Com? So of course I

765
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: went deep to get some jump ball statistics here. Anthony

766
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: Davis has the most wins in the jump ball circle.

767
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: This year, he's had fifty four jump balls thirty and

768
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: twenty four.

769
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: Not bad.

770
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: Who do you think has the best percentage winning jump

771
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 4: balls minimum twenty jumps of just this season, just this season,

772
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 4: minimum twenty jumps. No, he's at sixty four percent, which

773
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: is pretty good. But we got three guys who were

774
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: in who are above seventy percent win percentage.

775
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: Wow, Gobert, No, I was surprised. Not Gobert either.

776
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: You know, this is a weird one because he's a big,

777
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: lumbering man brook.

778
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: No, but he is very hot.

779
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: He's pretty good. He sticks in my mind that he's

780
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: he's very good.

781
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 4: Okay, you would maybe a Webbyama shaped guy, yes, bol

782
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 4: Bowl No, no, no, no, twenty jumps, twenty jumps.

783
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: Derek Lively twenty jumps. Porzingis is third.

784
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: Huge.

785
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: And then we got two who have won seventy two

786
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: point five percent of their jumps this season, both Eastern

787
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: Conference guys.

788
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: How about no, he's injured now, not Mitchell.

789
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: Not Mitchell Robinson. No no, no, no, no, uh both

790
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: potential all scars. One is a will make it and

791
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: one is a borderline case.

792
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: I would think, oh, bam, bam, surprising.

793
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: I know pretty sure he's not tall. Yeah, he's like

794
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 4: six or nine. It's all about timing with bam. And

795
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: then the other guy is Jared Allen. Okay, he got tall,

796
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: long arms. How about Yeah, the worst guys in the

797
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: league John Collins, Vitza Zubats, and Demonta Sabonis.

798
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: It adds up.

799
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: Sabonis and Zubots not great jumpers. John Collins is a

800
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: little bit shorter. And then this is my favorite stat

801
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: I found on other basketball stats dot com. Who do

802
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 4: you think has the most jump balls without having lost

803
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: one yet? This guy has five jump balls that he

804
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 4: hasn't lost yet.

805
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's obviously not a center.

806
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: He is the opposite of a center. Somebody who goes

807
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: and gets those possessions.

808
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Isn't an athletic point guard, at least.

809
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: More of a lowery type. I would say he's not.

810
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: He's known for being fast, but maybe not for being

811
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: a jumper.

812
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: So it's not obviously No, no, no, it's not.

813
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: He's known for it's honestly crazy. Call him Sexton.

814
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: Now he's known for being fast bench player as well. Okay,

815
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: so I mean maybe that gives you a hint. This

816
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 4: guy is getting into a lot of jump balls.

817
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: Be a scrap it Like, is it TJ McConn close.

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00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: That's a good close.

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00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: It's a pretty good The young t J. McConnell, Peyton

820
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: Pritchard five jump balls hasn't lost yet.

821
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: Wow, amazing.

822
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: Shout out to other basketball stats dot com. I don't know,

823
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: I mean they have. It's in the play by play. Yeah, yeah,

824
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: jump ball. It's just going to be pulled somehow.

825
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: Okay, looks like a good website. I tried to type

826
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: it in but the standard you arel didn't work. I

827
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: was pissed up. But then I googled it at work.

828
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: You got there.

829
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would add something here to the dunk

830
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: leaders because I was thinking of this yesterday. The dunk

831
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: leaders are here on other basketball stats, but I'd want

832
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: to know random stuff like put back dunk. Who's doing

833
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: well with the putback dunks? Or let's go crazy a

834
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: one hand dunk versus two hand dunks. Just just get

835
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: stats up.

836
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Are they tracked?

837
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: No, not that I know of anywhere. So an Alue

838
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: dunker or an Alue passer this man is.

839
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: Yeah like that?

840
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no, every part of a donkey break it

841
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: up into ten different categories, but then you can put

842
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: them all there together, so there's lots there to be

843
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: doing done with dunks.

844
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I love this. I'll add my answer, though. You

845
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 2: guys have just knocked this one out of the park.

846
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: How about tracking court side incidents? I'm talking spilled beverages. Okay,

847
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking errant doinks to people sitting in the front

848
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: row or a couple of rows. How about I like

849
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: this one. The the percentage of executed high fives between

850
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: a player and a fan. How many are left hanging?

851
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: How many actually would get nice hand on hand clap?

852
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: How many are just box jobs? Maybe maybe some butt pats?

853
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: Tracking stats you know when a guy falls in there,

854
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: you know how they go about it. I want all

855
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: of that minutia when someone goes into the to the

856
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: front roll or two and uh track it all.

857
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: Okay, who's leading the league and butt pets?

858
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

859
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

860
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: I mean, who goes into the who goes into the stands?

861
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, the most happens a lot.

862
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like Lowry every game I watch

863
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 2: a call, Lowry's in the stands at one point.

864
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: A lot of surface areas, that's right.

865
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: Accidental button pats that you mean to someone ten rolls back.

866
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: It is like he's touching. But yeah, exactly good stuff.

867
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: Next one. All this talk of all spectacled slash spectacled

868
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: teams as me think thinking of the opposite. What is

869
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: the best team you could assemble from the most unwatchable

870
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 3: players of all time? Whoa Alex, good question? The most

871
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: unwatchable players of all time?

872
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: It's difficult, great question. Crowdsource that last night because I

873
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: didn't have a full five. I actually think point guard

874
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: and wing are the hardest positions of the find because

875
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: even you know, even like the most infuriating athletic guys

876
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 4: do cool stuff from time to time. It's a lot

877
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: easier to find the bigs, is what I'm saying here.

878
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: So that's true.

879
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 4: I asked on Twitter last night. I got a lot

880
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: of responses. People had a lot of answers here, So

881
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with the guard. I thought that the

882
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: point guard was a hard spot.

883
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 3: I got D'Angelo Russell.

884
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I could see why, because.

885
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: I don't understand how this guy has such a devoted

886
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: fan base. When he's hot, it's like cool step backs

887
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: and it looks okay. But I don't feel like he

888
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: has a sick highlight reel or anything like that. He's

889
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: a good passer. He throws some flashy ones, but I

890
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 4: don't know a lot of people were voting for Trey Young.

891
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a guard. See I knew, like in answering

892
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: this or people like doing the crowdsourcing, like you said

893
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: that there would be like I assume, like a lot

894
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: of Trey Young hardened embeid, like the idea of like

895
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 2: those were the top three guy guys that as well? Yeah, yeah,

896
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: which I mean, I guess you could look at it

897
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: that way. It's all personal opinion. But okay, Dan to

898
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: Russ and.

899
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: I was surprised to see a lot of people were

900
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: saying Sga as a flopper. Interesting, okay, easiest choice shooting

901
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 4: guard James Harden. Yeah, yeah, the biggest vote.

902
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: Get her out there.

903
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: He's changed his game a little bit here, but people

904
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: are tossing it back to the Houston days when it

905
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: was only step backs and arm rips. Here's a tough question, though,

906
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: small forward. I'm going to give you four choices, Okay,

907
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: Paul Pierce, which was a high vote getter as well,

908
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: the old man game. Lots of pump fakes not a

909
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: guy that people root for all that often at this

910
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: point in his career. But I despite Paul Pierce sometimes

911
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: being infuriating in the clutch time, he was fun to latch.

912
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 3: I'll give him that. I think people have been in

913
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 3: furiated post career.

914
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: Probably you know what they used to call him, put

915
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: him away, Paul put him away.

916
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: Paul called him that back in the day. Uh Carmelo Anthony, Oh,

917
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: that was a no for me. I was surprised that

918
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 4: one got suggested so often.

919
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. Josh Smith.

920
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: A highlight, real guy. He's got great highlights.

921
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 3: That's the thing for me.

922
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: I think that's more of if you're a fan of

923
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: his team, he could be infuriating to watch.

924
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: Because you're like, why are you shooting so Josh?

925
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: And then Kyle Anderson was another guy who got a

926
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: handful of votes. I think because he's very slow. But

927
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: then his free throw release, that thing looks crazy. I

928
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 4: know that free throw smells crazy in there. So I

929
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: don't know who you're going with, Paul Pierce, Carmelo, Josh Smith,

930
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: or Kyle Anderson.

931
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: I think I probably go Paul Pierce. I probably did

932
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: you know that's that's because yeah, maybe he was always

933
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: beating our teams and stuff like that, and it was

934
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 2: just like easy to hate for some.

935
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: Reason he was.

936
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: And then then the way he plays, for sure, it's

937
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: it's like, what, you're gonna shoot another fifteen foot from

938
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: the right elbow and it's going in again.

939
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: That is infuriating. Poop Pee, I'm giving I'm giving it

940
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: to poot pee for sure. Well that works, all right.

941
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: My first choice here for most unwatchable player in the league,

942
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 4: it's Julius Randall.

943
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: At power forward.

944
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: If he's destroying your team, it sucks because you're like,

945
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: he's just running over your guys, throwing some slop up

946
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 4: to the rim that bounces around and goes in, or

947
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: he shoots an eighty foot high three pointer that you're like,

948
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: there's no chance that goes in, and it's somehow the

949
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: purest swish. Every basket he scores looks like a mistake.

950
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: Every shot is tough, and he's cooking you. It sucks, man.

951
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good one.

952
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: I feel like I had a lot of Knicks fans

953
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: also voting for Julius rand hilarious, And then we got

954
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: a lot of choices at the center position. There's some

955
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: guys who were tough watches offensively, so choose between your

956
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: four here. Rudy Gobert okay, not a great offensive player,

957
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: just airball, a couple of free throat. The Clippers were

958
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: loving it, but he hit four straight to win it

959
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: from minutes. So I also got Tristan Thompson in the mix, okay,

960
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 4: not a stellar offensive watch. And then two uh, currently

961
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: retired players, Kendrick Perkins, and to show that I'm not

962
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 4: being completely biased here, Joe Kim Noah, who I can't

963
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: imagine was an enjoyable watch for non Bulls fans, right right, right,

964
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: So go beart, Tristan Perkins or jok Noah.

965
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the media hate is real with the Kendrick Perkins,

966
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: That's that's for sure. Uh, I'm fine with Goldbert these days.

967
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't know grown player, yeah, absolutely, And he doesn't

968
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: try and shoot and all that, so I can understand.

969
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: He kind of looks like Jokim Noah. Sometimes the dribbles

970
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: ain't that pretty, but he gets things done. Perkins. And

971
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: who is the fourth that I really want to take? Noah? Oh,

972
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: I can't. I never take Joe kim no I love

973
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: that guy passes.

974
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: It's Tristan, so I'd probably go Perkins.

975
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: Remember when he hit that jumper from the.

976
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: Freeze like they did like a full lunch with the release.

977
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 4: I heard they were going to make that into the

978
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: new logo at one point in time, but they just

979
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: haven't figured out the design yet. So okay, our most

980
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 4: unwatchable players D'Angelo Russell, James Harden, pop Hears, Julius Randall,

981
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: and Kendrick Perkins making the list.

982
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: How good would that? TM?

983
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: Bussell, Hard and Pierce random.

984
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a lot of three lefties, Russell, Harden and Randall,

985
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: A lot of guys who can score a lot of isoball.

986
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: Though I believe at their peak of their powers.

987
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, and Perkins just out there screening heart.

988
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: That's right, yeah, space Man team teams win in forty games,

989
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: teams in the plan for sure? All right, next one here,

990
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: Knights of the No Dunk's Table. You guys mentioned on

991
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: a recent pod that the Kings just can't seem to

992
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: beat the Pelicans this year, and that's probably an understatement.

993
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: The Kings are twenty three and thirteen against every team

994
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: except New Orleans. However, you know, against those Pelicans They're

995
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: ower to four, scoring just one hundred and five point

996
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: five points per game, which would be last than the NBA,

997
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: and allowing one hundred and twenty six point five points

998
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: per game, which would also be last in the NBA.

999
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: Pelicans have just owned them. Given their success against other teams,

1000
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: you'd expect the Kings to be at least a little

1001
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: bit better against the Pels, but they're really truly terrible,

1002
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: Which leads me to my question, what is something that

1003
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: other people or you yourself, would expect you to be

1004
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: good at, but you're actually really terrible at it? And

1005
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: that is from Josh Shame's What is something that, yeah,

1006
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: other people or yourself you would expect to be good at,

1007
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 2: but you're just not any think come to mine?

1008
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: Answering this question in all, honestly ain't a good answer,

1009
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: I gotta say, although I will say I will say cooking.

1010
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: When people think of Greek food, they think, damn, that's good,

1011
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: because it is good. Yeah, However, I've been pampered my

1012
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: entire life. My mom made me every every meal I've had.

1013
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: My wife, Danielle, is a cook. I don't cook shit. However,

1014
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: we do have a jar of leaves, so I'm looking

1015
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: forward to making some Dolma this one year. But I might,

1016
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: I might. I might just leave him there for a

1017
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: couple of years. Uh so yeah, not a good answer there,

1018
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: But like my man, he's a good answer.

1019
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 2: I could see people would, I don't know, I think

1020
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: you're right. Peop would expect you like you're probably know

1021
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: your way around the kitchen a little bit.

1022
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1023
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I made an angle dog a few weeks ago.

1024
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: It was good. It wasn't a Greek nog, but it

1025
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: was still good.

1026
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you got here? TK?

1027
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 4: If I've had a new pickup run, I like to

1028
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 4: make sure people know that Trey is my given name,

1029
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 4: not Earn from three point sh My mom.

1030
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: Just liked the name.

1031
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: Okay, she saw it on a soap opera, got a

1032
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: tattoo for a three. But it's just because of my name.

1033
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: I'm not shooting threes out.

1034
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: There, right.

1035
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: Uh you had a nice well this was a couple

1036
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: of weeks ago now, but you had one night you

1037
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: were on fire from distance. That's true, you.

1038
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: Were that night. I earned it.

1039
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: You did. Like that guy seeds Trey, he's on fire

1040
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: from three. Yeah. My answer for this one, I you know,

1041
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: I'm pretty I'm pretty meticulous, like saying done a certain way.

1042
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm pretty anal. I should be good at wrapping gifts.

1043
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: I suck at it and I hate it. But it's

1044
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: weird that's should be a thing, like am I right?

1045
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: You surprised that you're I know, I can't stand it.

1046
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: I get frustrated with it, and then I just don't care.

1047
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: And then it's the whole idea is like why am

1048
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 2: I doing this? Like someone's just gonna rip this apart?

1049
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: Start getting in my head about.

1050
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: That's what it's about. It's the logic of.

1051
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: It, the logic what am I doing? Yeah, you got

1052
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: an answer for this one.

1053
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 5: You know, people are intimidated by me on the pickleball court.

1054
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 5: I'll walk on, I'll have my head band on, I'll

1055
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 5: be all decked out like I suck. I also look

1056
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 5: like I'm like, I'm gonna slam.

1057
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: The ball a lot, but.

1058
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 5: But I'm a very much. Let's slow it dead. Let's guys,

1059
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 5: let's keep it dainty and dinky. That's how I like

1060
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 5: to I can't handle the big slams. So yeah, but

1061
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 5: you you think when you walk up to people are like,

1062
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 5: oh this guy, I can see like when it like

1063
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 5: a sixty five year old woman like starts to like,

1064
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 5: I don't want to play this guy. I'm like, don't worry.

1065
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: They kill you.

1066
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just destroy me. Yeah.

1067
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: Don't judge a book by its cover. Don't judge a

1068
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: bearded man. Wait, wait, don't judge a pick a ball

1069
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: player by his beard.

1070
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: I guess a lot slam ball. Slam ball would be

1071
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: fun seeing JD slam slop.

1072
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: Oh wait, hold on before we move on, because this

1073
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: came up. Actually had our pickup run on Thursday. We

1074
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: started talking about our podcast. Have you ever shot a basketball?

1075
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Speaker 3: Shot a basketball?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 2: Okay, is there is it on philm Have we ever

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Speaker 2: recorded you shooting a basket?

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Speaker 5: No, because I'm usually the one shooting. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 5: think yeah, no, I don't think so okay.

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Speaker 2: Because that came up, we were like, we were talking

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00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: about out, Yeah, we're doing this nearly twenty years and

1084
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: you know, JD's our producer. He doesn't like basketball that much,

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00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: and we're like, in fact, I don't know if he's

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00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: ever actually shot a basketball. We're started joking and then

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Speaker 2: we're like, hold on, halcond, I can't remember footage of

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00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: you ever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't think it's ever. It's this

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Speaker 5: is not caught on.

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Speaker 3: Like there, But I play.

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Speaker 5: I've played with my kids. Yeah okay, okay, but like

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Speaker 5: I stink at that. That should be my answer. People

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00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 5: are like, oh, you've produced a basketball podcast for twenty years.

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Speaker 5: Oh great, let's talk. Let's break it down. What are

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Speaker 5: your thoughts? I have no thoughts. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you just love the game, you only play. No,

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Speaker 2: I'll never tie.

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Speaker 5: Really, I don't care for it, to be honest, I

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Speaker 5: don't really like sports. Actually, i'll see myself all right.

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Speaker 3: Final question here, Hey, no dunk screw is alburn schn

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Speaker 3: gun an All Star? No? But on a serious note,

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Speaker 3: who are the guys you would love to see make

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Speaker 3: an All Star Game this year even though you know

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Speaker 3: it's not going to happen for them. Could be young

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Speaker 3: guys who just haven't proven themselves enough, or guys would

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Speaker 3: just make the All Star Game more fun. I'll hang

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Speaker 3: up and listen. Thanks, Nate, that won't make it, but

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Speaker 3: you just want to see him there?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got a few names here. I'm sort of

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Speaker 2: predicting some All Star snubs. I guess is what we're

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Speaker 2: getting out here. I think Scottie Barnes is going to

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Speaker 2: be an All Star snub.

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Speaker 3: Same, I do not.

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Speaker 2: Think he will be selected, at least in the first

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Speaker 2: go around. Trey has always brought this up that once

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Speaker 2: you get into the injury replacements, a lot of the

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Speaker 2: guys that maybe should be there eventually do get there.

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Speaker 2: But the first batch, and the biggest reason is the

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Speaker 2: Raptors are fifteen and twenty five, and that's going to

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Speaker 2: be a big knock against him. Now he's only one

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Speaker 2: of six players averaging more than twenty points, eight boards

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Speaker 2: and five assists. The other five are Yokich, Giannis Embiids

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Speaker 2: a bonus, and Lucas. That's rare company there. And he's

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Speaker 2: a great defender, racks up the stats in the in

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Speaker 2: the disruptive defender stats there, so he's good. He will

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Speaker 2: eventually make an All Star team or two or three

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Speaker 2: or four. But I just don't think he's gonna make

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Speaker 2: it this in the coming weeks. I guess we're gonna

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Speaker 2: find out somewhat soon here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tree Young's on a losing team and he'll probably

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Speaker 3: get picked first as well, so.

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Speaker 2: You might get voted in ye. Well, we'll see I

1134
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: guess with the players and media and all that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess Scotty Barnes.

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Speaker 3: I also have.

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Speaker 2: Jamal Murray. Ye, now, he's missed time and that's the

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00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: big knock against him. He did miss some games because

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Speaker 2: of a hamstring and ankle injury. But the record is

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00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: really good when Murray plays, and it's pretty average when

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Speaker 2: he misses time. I think they're eight and six in

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Speaker 2: the games he doesn't play. And you know, I think

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00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: off of last year's finals run, we were coming into

1145
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: this year going, oh, Murray is going to be a

1146
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: lock for the All Star team. But because of the

1147
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: miss timing, because of the talent in the West, with

1148
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Speaker 2: the guards, it's like Sga and Luca are going to start,

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Speaker 2: and then it's like there's Fox, and there's Anthony Edwards,

1150
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: and there's Curry, and there's you know, Hard and even

1151
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: is making a case here late. Like there's a lot

1152
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: of really good guard So I think Jamal Murray might

1153
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: might get squeezed again for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely possibility. The guy is a playoff per former.

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00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: His numbers are way better. In the postseason, he averaged

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00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: twenty six points last year to win a title as

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00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: the number one guard, essentially the year before that in

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00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs when he played also twenty six, but this

1159
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: season twenty spot. Anybody does that these days, And yeah,

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00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: West is just tough, so it's gonna be hard to

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Speaker 3: pick a second player. I think from the nugets.

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Speaker 2: I got two more bigs in the West that we've

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00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: talked about before, chet Holmgunn and Victor Wemenyama. I don't

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Speaker 2: think are gonna make it again on the first pass through.

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00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: But great numbers for rookies. Obviously, you know success for

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Speaker 2: Thunder and chat Not. I can't say the same for

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Speaker 2: Webbinemen Spurs. But these guys will be making multiple All

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Speaker 2: Star teams in their future. I just don't think they'll

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Speaker 2: get there this year and my final one. And this

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Speaker 2: is a name that's been up coming up in conversation

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Speaker 2: a lot about is All Star candidacy Derek White. I

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Speaker 2: wonder if he is going to get there when the

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00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: coaches select, because if it's Heliburton, and let's say it

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Speaker 2: is Trey Young right now starting there's still Maxi, there's

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, There's Jalen Brunson, there's Danian Lillard. I mean

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. I know he's not a guar, but he

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Speaker 2: probably be selected as a forward along with Tatum, who'll

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Speaker 2: be starting. I think it'll be tough, and you know

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00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't have those crazy statistics either. I think our

1180
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: guy Dan Devine compared Derek White this year to Mike

1181
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: Conley from a couple of years ago when he finally

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00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: made it as an injury replacement. The idea like, you know,

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00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: they're like the third or fourth leading scorer on a

1184
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: really good team, and that's what Conley was at the

1185
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: time when he eventually made his first one. And that's

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00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: sort of Derek White here now because it's not standard

1187
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: box score numbers that are gonna blow you away. With

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00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: Derek White a great player, just a lot of other

1189
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: good talent on the team, especially if Porzingis is also there.

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Speaker 2: So those are my five. Scotty Barnes, Derek White, Jamal Murray, Chett,

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Speaker 2: and Victor. I mean there's probably other ones. Anyone else

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00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: he got.

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Speaker 3: I think Maxy, I think he could easily get squeezed here.

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Speaker 4: All the guys you mentioned, well, they faltered a little

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00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 4: bit when it was Maxie running the show and he

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00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: was out there like three and seven or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what.

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Speaker 4: It was, but he had a really really hot start

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Speaker 4: and he's been good since. But he wasn't, you know,

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Speaker 4: fifty percent from the field, fifty percent from three like

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00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 4: he was at the start of the season. And then

1202
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 4: there's all those other guys who just have the All

1203
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 4: Star rep ahead of them. And if Trey Young gets

1204
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 4: voted in that kind of yah takes a spot that

1205
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: could have gone to Maxi. And then to Nate's point here,

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Speaker 4: I think Shangoun could be squeezed out as well. In

1207
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Speaker 4: the Western Conference. He's at twenty one points a game,

1208
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: nine rebounds, five assists. But the Rockets just dropped out

1209
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 4: of the play in. They're just now under five hundred,

1210
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 4: and there are so many Western Conference big guys who

1211
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: could make it Jokich, lebron A, d KD, Carl, Anthony Towns,

1212
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 4: Go Beart, Chettin', Wemby Kawhi, Paul, George Sabonis marking in like,

1213
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 4: it's just gonna be tough to beat all of those

1214
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 4: guys to make it into the game. So good call, Nate.

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Speaker 2: All Star starters are announced next Thursday, and the week

1216
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: after that, February first, they do the reserve. So at

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00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 2: some point here in the coming weeks, we'll do our podcast,

1218
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: probably on a drop cast, where we make our picks

1219
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: and debate our picks and all that. But man, you

1220
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: just listed all those guys in both conferences. There's gonna

1221
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: be a whole lot of like, damn tough to leave

1222
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: so and so off, hope for an injury, a fake

1223
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: injury to a guy to get another name or two

1224
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: in there, because there's gonna be a lot of guys

1225
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 2: left on the outside looking in. Anyone else who.

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Speaker 3: Did know you guys covered everything. I was definitely thinking,

1227
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Speaker 3: you know, Barnes and Jamal Murray, when is the first

1228
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: time he's going to make an All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: He's got to score more than twenty a game in

1230
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 4: the regular season, not that much anymore.

1231
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got to play. Yeah, so that's a problem.

1232
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: But guys who are playing with low scoring guys, it

1233
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: helps their case, like the Celtics, it helps Derek Brown's

1234
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: case of Derek Brown, Derek White's case that he's playing

1235
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: with Drew Holliday because they're the top team. Yeah, por

1236
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 3: Zingis is not guaranteed to be there either, So it

1237
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: could be Tatum Brown and Derek White because the Celtics.

1238
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: You got to take a lot of guys from the Celtics.

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00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: The Celtics are like, really the only team on pace

1240
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: to win easily over sixty games at this point halfway

1241
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: through the season. But will they get four All Stars,

1242
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: because that's what we're getting at Tatum Brown might not

1243
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: be there, I know, I know. And then Derek White,

1244
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: so he's the third or fourth guy on that team. Yeah,

1245
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be there, at least

1246
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: until maybe an injury replacement is announced, because it's just

1247
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: there's just too many other good guys that are deserving.

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00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: We'll see. Celtics haven't lost at home yet nineteen to oh.

1249
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: I want to see if they go forty one and

1250
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 3: no at home.

1251
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweet of the night.

1252
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: Tweet U and I Wow Twitt. The Los Angeles Clippers

1253
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 3: are moving into a new arena next season. It's called

1254
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: the Intuit Dome. They signed Kawhi Leonard to an extension

1255
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: and then they said, okay, you want to buy seats,

1256
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: you want to buy seats, you want to buy seats,

1257
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 3: and then the announcements about the seats started happening very exciting.

1258
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: It's called the wall. There's one section of fifty one

1259
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: uninterrupted rows of fans, so it's all Clippers fans. And

1260
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 3: here's front office sports tweeting it out. Here's the rules.

1261
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: So you cannot cheer for the opposing team, you cannot

1262
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: wear opponent gear, and if you resell your tickets, it

1263
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: can only be in the clipp it Clippers marketplace to

1264
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: sort of guarantee that they'll be Clippers fans. And then

1265
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: it says the season seats in the wall range from

1266
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: five thousand to twenty five thousand fans. And then owner

1267
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: Steve Baumber he talked about the wall. Let's hear it.

1268
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: Stay in your seat or get up. You get up,

1269
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna know that you stood up as long as

1270
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: you you want us to. You've got to give us

1271
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: the permission, but we'll know that you get up. We

1272
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: know that you cheer, we know how loudly you were cheered.

1273
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: If you're if you're good on those things, we.

1274
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: Can give you a little discounts on the just to.

1275
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 6: Reinforce that excellent behavior that we want in need of

1276
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 6: our fans to make this thing rocking. I mean, look,

1277
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 6: our fans have a role to play with our team.

1278
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 6: This isn't just for the fans to enjoy the experience.

1279
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 6: If our fans do their job right, it's gonna help

1280
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 6: our team play better and that's super important to us.

1281
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: Okay, can I just say something for the podcast listeners

1282
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: that aren't watching on YouTube. That was Steve Balmer and

1283
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: not John c Riley. It's it's uncanny to me, Oh

1284
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: my god.

1285
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, let's hear the details of this one

1286
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: section that's sort of behind a back one one net, yeah,

1287
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: one backboard, fifty one rows, three hundred fans. What's your take, Trey? Yeah,

1288
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 3: I like it too.

1289
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 4: Actually, it's just an extreme version of like the six

1290
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: man section they have here at the Hawks, but here

1291
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 4: at the Hawks it's like, what eight rows. Maybe it's

1292
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: kind of up and off to the corner. But then

1293
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 4: you'll often see at a lot of games, like I

1294
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: know they do this at Bolls games during the second

1295
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 4: half they give everybody thundersticks for behind the backboard to

1296
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: go crazy. So when the opposing team is shooting free throws,

1297
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: they're seeing in Chicago it's literally hot dogs that they're

1298
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: hitting together like Fortellow's hot Dogs, which is funny. Well,

1299
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 4: they're combining the classic fan section and the classic fan

1300
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: section behind it, and we're just saying this is everything

1301
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 4: that's cool.

1302
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks cool and be rendering there like it

1303
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: could look like, you know, maybe intimidating. I just want

1304
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: to know how many games will it take until there's

1305
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: an incident, with no doubt, a Lakers fan who sneaks

1306
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: his way into the wall with all Clippers gear, and

1307
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: then at some point in that game takes it all

1308
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: off and there is in the you know, the Lakers

1309
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: gold and purple.

1310
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: And all that.

1311
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: That's gonna happen. It's gonna be hilarious. And then what

1312
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: goes on? What do they escort this fan out?

1313
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? Yeah, just block them?

1314
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know it's gonna happen. Lakers fans

1315
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: are gonna be dying to do that. But I will say,

1316
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: like some people crapping on this, oh you gotta make

1317
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: a wall section, a fan section, all you guys, your

1318
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: your fans sock. This fan base is non existent, and

1319
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, yeah, the Lakers don't need to do this,

1320
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: they don't need this. A lot of teams do need

1321
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: something like this, so why not try it? Yeah, So

1322
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: it looks like it could be cool.

1323
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: It looks like it could be cool, and then I

1324
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 3: start to think, has this thing build built yet? I mean,

1325
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: this is coming in like eight months. Then I started

1326
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: watching some videos and it does look one hundred percent.

1327
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: That being said, I think there's a couple of little

1328
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: issues with it. I love the idea of all the

1329
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: fans being there. Of course, it's like a soccer stadium.

1330
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: It's fun if you want to be a part of

1331
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: the Lakers fans. There's still another twenty thousand seats in

1332
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: that stadium. You'll be fine. I don't like how it's

1333
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: they're charging season seats five to twenty five grand. Fans

1334
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 3: need to afford some crap, you know, That's how it

1335
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 3: can be up there.

1336
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: So I think that maybe they're overpriced.

1337
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: They're a little overpriced.

1338
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're good seats, yeah yeah, like up in

1339
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: the nose.

1340
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they're not overpriced when you compare it

1341
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 3: to every other arena, they're not overpriced.

1342
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 5: If I'm being monitored from my behavior.

1343
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: They're gonna know when you're standing up, sitting down, farting,

1344
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: ever that you get a little discount.

1345
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 5: What happens if the Clippers suck and I want to

1346
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 5: boo them from that.

1347
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: Series, then you're gonna have to pay more twenty five dollars.

1348
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 5: Already, I can't boo. I can't sit there with my

1349
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 5: arms crossed.

1350
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: No, you're allowed to boo. I think you're allowed to boo.

1351
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: They're just trying to get Clippers fans in that one section.

1352
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: They're just trying to get Lakers fans the heck out.

1353
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: I think that's all it is. I think it'll be

1354
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: it'll be fine. They're just telling people, we're trying to

1355
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: get Los Angeles behind us instead of behind the Lakers.

1356
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 3: It's actually down the road from the old Forum. Like

1357
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: they're they're trying to sneak in people. They're trying to

1358
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: steal Lakers fans. It's their time, Lakers. They will No,

1359
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: they're not. Kawhi Leonard is still young, is going to

1360
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: be a franchise player forever. Lebron's getting old. It's our time.

1361
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: It's Clipper time. So you know what, I see all

1362
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: those rows and I think that's probably like ten thousand people.

1363
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: It's like three hundred people. It's only three hundred. It

1364
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: looks like a ton and it's three hundred people. I

1365
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: don't know how Yeah, maybe it's six people a row.

1366
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna say this rendering, this drawing. I don't

1367
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: think it is like to scale sort of. I think

1368
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: this is, like you said it, we have this in Atlanta.

1369
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: There's like three rows of Hawks fans. You have to,

1370
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: like addition, to get in there. You have to be

1371
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: a die hard. You know, you're you're wearing all the gear,

1372
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: you won't sit down, you're doing all the cheers together.

1373
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,959
Speaker 2: Like we've had the opportunity to be in that section before.

1374
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. It's a fun way to

1375
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: watch a game. It is like it gives you like

1376
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: that European the soccer vibes where you're standing the whole game,

1377
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I think that's just really all.

1378
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: This is just maybe one spot.

1379
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's not a big deal. Three hundred.

1380
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: It's messing with me now, I'm like, there's probably three

1381
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 4: hundred people on the Hawks one right.

1382
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: It's it sounds crazy and you look at it, it's

1383
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: like almost like one third of the stadium almost like

1384
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: the way it's sectioned off. Maybe not that much. But

1385
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 3: there is a website NBA dot com Slash Clippers Slash

1386
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 3: the Wall. That's the one, and it's yeah literally, but

1387
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: it literally says the wall will consist of fifty one

1388
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 3: uninterrupted rows of a passionate Clippers fans blah blah blah

1389
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: blah b and then later on it says it's three

1390
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: hundred seats behind the basket and close to the action.

1391
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: The standing only section is built to house three hundred

1392
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 3: of our most energetic fans. So I don't know, maybe

1393
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: it's just part of.

1394
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: Two different things.

1395
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: Then is it possible you get part of the wall?

1396
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1397
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 3: Who knows?

1398
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: I do like the suggestion from Coyote Jester who says

1399
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 4: they need the Clipper bros to cut the ribbon.

1400
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: On oh.

1401
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 4: No popoff? Yeah, yeah, get.

1402
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: The Clipper bros there, Get him in the section.

1403
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: Clipper men at this point, I bet they are.

1404
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: They can, they can legally drink that vodka.

1405
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: They're gonna be given the tickets, I bet the entire season. Yeah,

1406
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: that's what I think end up happening. Even with our

1407
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: Hawks six man s action, they just get tickets. I imagine.

1408
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes, are you gotta play your part like you can't

1409
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's frowned upon. If you go to

1410
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: the to the six man section in Atlanta here and

1411
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: and sit down, you can. But they don't like it.

1412
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: They don't want it. That's not what they're looking for.

1413
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta get into it. But j D,

1414
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: you don't want to be tracked today so much.

1415
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want this guy deciding if

1416
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: I'm living up to Clippers Nation or whatever.

1417
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 2: I don't want that guy telling me what I can

1418
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: cross the road.

1419
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 4: Is gonna have high standards for passionate cheering.

1420
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a censor on. You're gonna have to

1421
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: wear gloves, and he's gonna know how hard you squeezed

1422
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: your your buddy besides you thigh, whether you touched a

1423
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 2: little dick. He's gonna known.

1424
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 5: Give that guy a discount.

1425
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: Give a dick. Count all can't wait for this.

1426
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: The stadium. Why is it called the wall? There's no walls?

1427
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's I guess there's still okay. I

1428
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: thought it was called like the Wall of Sound or yeah,

1429
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: I think they originally called it that. Maybe they've dropped

1430
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 2: the sound. Timberlake came in and said, drop the sound

1431
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: the Wall. I can't wait to go. I'll tell you

1432
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: that twenty twenty six will be there. Maybe get there

1433
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: before then. I don't know. You got an audition to

1434
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 2: sit there?

1435
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 4: All Star Yeah, you should have got to wear an

1436
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 4: All Star jersey, cheerful cheer for the conference.

1437
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 3: This will be their audition. They'll play the wonder Wall.

1438
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: Three hundred fans are gonna be so happy. They're gonna

1439
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: be so happy.

1440
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: Okay, let's wrap this up. Holy went longer than I

1441
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: thought we would. That's okay. Lots of games on tonight.

1442
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: I think they're there's a probably ten plus, got some

1443
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: good ones. Got MAVs Lakers on ABC. Keep doing that

1444
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: ABC on a Wednesday. Wednesday's right, it's an eight to

1445
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: thirty start for a Lakers game.

1446
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 4: There's a snub for you, Kyrie Irving twenty six, five

1447
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 4: and five, so great percentages not in the All Star conversation,

1448
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: hardly at all.

1449
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: No, and then we have Bucks Calves at seven thirty

1450
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: on ESPN too, So that's a pretty good one. A

1451
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: couple of these other games, you never know though, they

1452
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: don't look all that great on paper, but we'll see

1453
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 2: and we'll be here to talk about it tomorrow morning

1454
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: at ten am Eastern. Join us, then hit the like button.

1455
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe podcast listeners. Hey, do us a

1456
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 2: solid leave us a five star rating and review until then.

1457
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 3: Clipper Bros. You heard it here first, have a great time,

1458
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: turn up. Love you guys. Awesome, Clipper guys, You're awesome.

1459
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 3: I think they should come up with you. Just mentioned

1460
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving only playing twenty five games. Jimmy Butler also

1461
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: only playing twenty five games. Couldn't miss it any A

1462
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: new rule for the All Star Games, right yes? Seventy

1463
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: five senti.

1464
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 4: Tom Hammerster was calling it the seventy nine line. You

1465
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: gotta play seventy nine percent of your games to qualify

1466
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: seventy seventy nine lines.

1467
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: For all NBA and all the awards, or for all.

1468
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: That's for the awards. So I don't know what the

1469
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: percentage would be.

1470
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 4: Fifty games, seventy nine thirty eight games?

1471
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 3: Is that right now? Thirty nine point five

1472
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people,