WEBVTT - Former Bachelorette Desiree Siegfried

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, happy our listeners, and we're so excited about

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<v Speaker 1>our episode today because, as we mentioned last week, we

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<v Speaker 1>are officially on the road to the premiere of The

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<v Speaker 1>Bad Chelarette and we are so thrilled because Rachel, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's just me, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we just sat down and had Claire on and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>granted that was actually a couple of months ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like yesterday. And so we are a month

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<v Speaker 1>away from the premiere and on October thirteenth, mark your

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<v Speaker 1>calendars because we are getting our season premiere and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be on Mondays. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesdays, so make sure you mark that down too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a change for us all. But

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<v Speaker 1>last week we mentioned that in anticipation of the upcoming season,

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to get some former Bad Cherettes on who

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't had on the podcast yet. So we want

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<v Speaker 1>to get them on and get us all pumped up

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<v Speaker 1>for this season because what is better than some girl power?

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're going to do that today because we

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<v Speaker 1>are having a very special lady on one who makes

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<v Speaker 1>me laugh like no other and who I personally love

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you do too, But we are having Jillian

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<v Speaker 1>Harris on, and if you are a dedicated Bachelor fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, she truly does it all. She's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. She's not only a mother as soon to

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<v Speaker 1>be wife, she's a badass businesswoman. Like I said, she

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<v Speaker 1>does it all, and so we're gonna have her on

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<v Speaker 1>and get her talking to us today about all things

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<v Speaker 1>a bachelorette's past, present, and future. You know, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, I'm excited to have Jillian on because

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<v Speaker 1>I think we both met her for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, which was at the reunion and

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen year reunion, and she was hilarious. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard about her. I knew that she was

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<v Speaker 1>the most accomplished bachelorette, and I still am going to

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<v Speaker 1>give her that title. But I had no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>we were in for and how great she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But at the same time, also when you

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about how we're on the road to Bachelorette,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, don't you feel like we've already seen

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<v Speaker 1>this season, because more than any other season, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been so many rumors swirling around this bachelorette or Bachelorette's

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<v Speaker 1>plural whatever it is season that I feel like, I

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<v Speaker 1>I've already watched it. Yeah, I feel like there's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>more spoilers out there than there than we've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, but A I try not to read

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<v Speaker 1>too much into those because I can't help it. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is like to a whole other level, because

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's always some spoilers, but this one, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because people are speculating so much, but also

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's so much that when we actually

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<v Speaker 1>watch each week back on once it starts, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be like, oh my gosh, Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like I don't even know. I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just want to watch it. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to know the guys because I heard that there's

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<v Speaker 1>more guys than there's ever been, and I just it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be you know. And I think I said this

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, but when

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison always comes out and says the most dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>season ever, I truly think that that is going to

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<v Speaker 1>live up to the title. For this season. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>ass it I'm calling Claire anyways, Um, okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I totally feel like it's all it's all

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<v Speaker 1>been played out, whether it be in the rumor mill

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, it definitely isn't popping off in our

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<v Speaker 1>bachelorette chat. I'll tell you that. I feel like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're all like Claire, speak to us,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us something we know nothing. I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to dig so much like the way we'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>questions like word things for Claire is like we want something,

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<v Speaker 1>but she is so tightited. I mean, she'll respond and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she'll give us like the baselines like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, how are you guys doing? But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>give us more? Wait, can I ask you this? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of flak from this, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>typically from Facebook moms, because I'm not well liked on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and usually the people who are coming at me

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<v Speaker 1>all look the same. I got a lot of flak

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<v Speaker 1>for being confused by Claire's poster for the Bachelorette. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a graduate. I'd never seen the graduate, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand the concept of it. So and then in

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<v Speaker 1>real time during an interview, somebody explained it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what, I'm a little bothered by this.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we playing into this cougar mentality? Did we

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<v Speaker 1>do it for Ari? Did we do it for Nick?

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<v Speaker 1>I literally was like, they might as well dress Claire

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<v Speaker 1>up an animal print and tell it a roar. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it? Well, no, And that was my first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I said, because when I woke up one

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<v Speaker 1>day and one of my friends sent it to me

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, what does this mean? And for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, had just recently watched The Graduate and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, it's after this movie. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was Claire, I'd be a little bit bothered

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<v Speaker 1>by this too. And that was my first reaction, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it's played into this cougar It's like, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she's the oldest batcheerrette, Like, let's get over it. At

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<v Speaker 1>this point, she's still Therefore, why we all became the

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<v Speaker 1>bachelrette And that was hopefully to find a partner and

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<v Speaker 1>who cares if she is a little bit older, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let her just do her thing. Now it's played out.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the fact that that was the ad route

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<v Speaker 1>that they were going, I was like, hmmm, I would

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<v Speaker 1>not enjoy that if that was me, it was I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the double standard. And the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it was on Chris Harrison's Instagram, so I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a joke. I was like, why does Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison have his foot in the middle of Claire's poster?

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<v Speaker 1>It was so confused and up until I had that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not being critical like everyone's like, oh, Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>criticizes everything. I just am like, we gotta support our

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<v Speaker 1>girl here. There's so many other aspects to highlight about her.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we get it she's the oldest bacherette. Surely

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<v Speaker 1>there's more to her than that. Let's not that be

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<v Speaker 1>the whole spiel or the stick when it comes to Claire. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let it die here, Okay, we know her age, who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>Let it go. Let her just find love and and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the journey of this all. So yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been thirty nine and fine, forty and fabulous, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like coming, you know, like whatever, Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been. I didn't. I didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do you did you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>theme for your poster? Black, Well, I'm gonna what your

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<v Speaker 1>poster looked like, I don't im Yeah, I didn't have one.

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<v Speaker 1>It well, yours was it's a doing the damn thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do the Mine was that's our girl? I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that was. But like I felt, I just warned.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a commercial that was something like she's bold,

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<v Speaker 1>She's bad bad. I might have made that up in

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<v Speaker 1>my head. I really think I made that up, know what, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>actually thinking about it, it wasn't. Maybe it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah because they kind of played off the whole beauty pageant,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where she ripped off the skirt and had

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<v Speaker 1>the crown that I like, fabulous. Yeah, but and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was so fitting for her. So maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until her that they had like a theme or this.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully let's ask what we should ask Jillian when Julian

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<v Speaker 1>comes on. Let's ask her if she had one, if

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<v Speaker 1>she had a thing, because like I feel like for us,

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<v Speaker 1>they do songs now, but I'm very curious with her

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<v Speaker 1>if she had a thing, because what are they Claire,

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<v Speaker 1>here's to you, missus. Robinson like, no, that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they did with the poster, I know, but the foot

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<v Speaker 1>is as big as Claire. So gosh, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends actually sentenced me. She's like, do you know whose

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<v Speaker 1>foot this is? Like? Is this one of the dudes?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, they're not going to actually pick one

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys from her season to like be the

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<v Speaker 1>foot model for her poster. I mean, maybe it's been,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been. It's foot shut. I'm just kidding. Just

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<v Speaker 1>took below for often. Here's this night, so it's Sustin

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<v Speaker 1>Hoffman's Is this an offense foot? They brought him in

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<v Speaker 1>just for that moment? Oh god, I hate it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well listen, I had to get your take on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also want to do something fun because we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this on the podcast before and we love

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<v Speaker 1>when you guys send in questions or tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>you think, especially you're burning Batchelorrette questions. So we thought

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<v Speaker 1>before we bring Jillian on, it would be fun because

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<v Speaker 1>we ask you guys on Instagram to send in your

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<v Speaker 1>questions and you guys did not disappoint. You send in

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<v Speaker 1>so many replies. So we're gonna go through some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't go through all of them. Maybe we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>that on the later podcast, but maybe we'll ask Jillian

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<v Speaker 1>some of these questions as well. So I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask you the first one. And as I'm flipping through papers, um, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's I'm curious about this. From your season, what guy

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<v Speaker 1>are you the closest to. Oh, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I say probably Jason, just because I mean he's always

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<v Speaker 1>just been such a sweetheart and such a fun guy

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<v Speaker 1>and one that it was never awkward, but also just

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<v Speaker 1>being close with Caitlin and talking to him, and now

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<v Speaker 1>that he is in LA closer to us, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get the dogs together. So I would say Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still stay in touch, not regularly, I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say that, but I still like stay on good terms

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to some of the dudes every now and again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean Joe every now and again, like we

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<v Speaker 1>had him on last week, and like even Blake and

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<v Speaker 1>Colton just like checking in and like small chats with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if do you remember Kriston for my season?

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy who dugged over me on Night one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he lives in LA and we'll chat every now

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<v Speaker 1>and again, and he has a cute dog, so he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get the dogs together. So yeah, Jason's probably like

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<v Speaker 1>the closest. I would say, okay, you as you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking, I because I'm like, who has

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<v Speaker 1>my phone number? Like I feel like that shows a

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<v Speaker 1>level of closeness and I think I think Alex is

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that has my phone number. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex was at our wedding. And it's so funny because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've said this before, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my family members thought Alex was Brian. They

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<v Speaker 1>kept saying congratulations, and Alex is like, at one point

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, you know what, I just ran with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just say, thank you so much. I'm so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. But they do like the dark hair,

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<v Speaker 1>They're tall, they're like both bill like I can I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if if they didn't really know Brian. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I get it, it was are

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<v Speaker 1>they are they? He's really doing that. It's hilarious and

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<v Speaker 1>I love that he embrace it. I would I would say, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>who I haven't talked to in a while. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there are other people that like Eric, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>communicate with who else I'm even communicated with Peter Krause,

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<v Speaker 1>you know through And I think that's probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a shocker to so many people because people are thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of the last time we saw each other, which was

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<v Speaker 1>on stage, but that was also three years ago. We're

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<v Speaker 1>adults here and we can all move on, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like even this, people read into everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you could like someone's photo and people would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, is she flirting with him? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>talking like they just it's like no, But like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all adults. Like the world. This world bonds you

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<v Speaker 1>in such a weird way that unless you had like

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<v Speaker 1>a really terrible falling out or experience with someone, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine you not being on okay terms with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's funny is we talked. We were

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<v Speaker 1>like man, because we were talking about Black Lives Matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and and like he was asking me questions about it

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff and like for some advice ice about like

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<v Speaker 1>responses he had gotten. And it's funny because we were like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we almost hit that follow button. But then what like

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<v Speaker 1>it would just turn into something that it shouldn't because

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<v Speaker 1>I still get messages that tell me, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>were really into Peter, and it's like, guys, do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys I'm married that I just celebrated to your anniversary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were. It's sad because we were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not a good idea hit that follow button. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, people, Yeah, they just read so much

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<v Speaker 1>into it that it's hard sometimes but I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Okay, I'm gonna ask you one of these. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>these are all so good. Okay, this is I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you this too, because I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>probably were in a better headspace and like could prepare

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. I'm just like, well, whatever, go

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<v Speaker 1>with the flow. But how did you mentally prepare yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to date so many men? Oh so, I guess see.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's badass to be able to say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, whether you're here for the right or wrong reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>you're all my season. This is my season of the Bachelorette,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So. I felt very empowered, I felt very

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<v Speaker 1>in control. I loved being in the driver's seat. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a taurist, I'm an any acrim eight. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>these things. I love that as very much. Show me

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<v Speaker 1>and it was invigorating, it was refreshing, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>the first woman of color, I was the first black bachelorette.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something to me. It was an honor, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went into it with that mentality. I also went

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<v Speaker 1>into it with the mentality that I'm open for this,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's absolutely no way I'm gonna fall for these men.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no way they can play batchmaker for

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<v Speaker 1>me and it'll work. So I think I had kind

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<v Speaker 1>of psyched myself out about it, and I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>high expectations, and that's why after the first night, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I remember I turned to Caitlin, my producer

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you don't know, and I was like, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might be in some trouble. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's the potential here. I was like, dare I say

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might? I'd have met my husband tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe. So I think for me, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a little different going in. What about you, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I just went in. I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>so nervous at first, because I mean I knew going in,

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<v Speaker 1>like some of the guys would hopefully be there and

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<v Speaker 1>like me and some of the guys were just doing

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<v Speaker 1>it to go on this TV show. And make a

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<v Speaker 1>name for themselves. And so I was very i think

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<v Speaker 1>guarded at first, where I was like I need to

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<v Speaker 1>really weed out like the wrong ones here. But kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you after night one and you start to

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<v Speaker 1>interact and actually talk to them, you see, like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe I could actually form some connections here. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember leaving night one being like I'm hopeful for

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of these guys, like I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them aren't here for me. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>like aren't going to be into me, and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but as long as I had some but like to

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<v Speaker 1>mentally prepare yourself to date thirty dudes, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>you're I'd just hid there and we're like, let's make

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<v Speaker 1>this happen. What do we gotta do? Like I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>sit here. You guys can come to me and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice little chat like bring me champagne, bring

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<v Speaker 1>me treat like whatever. But um, It's it's funny looking

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<v Speaker 1>back because it's such a whirlwind and it does go

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<v Speaker 1>by so fast. But now looking back, I'm like, did

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<v Speaker 1>plus men? I couldn't like I would relive that again.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing for all those guys that came

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<v Speaker 1>for the wrong reason. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>they will always be known as so and so from

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<v Speaker 1>Becka season, you know, any article that mentions them, any

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<v Speaker 1>Google or whatever, it's like, Blake blank blank from Becka

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<v Speaker 1>season and so from Rachel's season of the Back. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>yea's right, you always going to be attached to my

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<v Speaker 1>season and my name. I just think it's it's plus,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a serial dater, so I'm like thirty men I've done. No,

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<v Speaker 1>i haven't done this before, but I mean I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's it's I love every bit of it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why that was interesting to hear trist To talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the stigma that was placed on her. It's so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>healthy change over the years, because now you're looked at

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<v Speaker 1>as like such a strong, independent woman wrangling these men

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<v Speaker 1>in whereas Trusted did it. It was like almost as

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<v Speaker 1>if like a negative connotation was placed on her to

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<v Speaker 1>be a woman dating all these men. There was such

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<v Speaker 1>a double standard. So yeah, it's like taboo kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially back then, but I think about it now,

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<v Speaker 1>just like in my life now because obviously, like I

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<v Speaker 1>am single, and now that I can say that it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to like talk about like where I'm at. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like, you know, I never, like I was

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<v Speaker 1>always in exclusive relationships when I was with someone like

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first time where I could really like

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<v Speaker 1>explore multiple relationships at once and really balance them out.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now I'm like, you know what, like I'm thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm ready to maybe like be okay with like

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<v Speaker 1>not having to like throw all my eggs in one

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<v Speaker 1>basket per se and be like only you like this

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<v Speaker 1>is my goal in mind and just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the experience that life in dating has to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's, um, it's definitely fun. Though it's like a weird,

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing to do, but it's like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>any girl would turn that down. No, No, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get if you get offered the bat to right,

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<v Speaker 1>you take it all your future Batchelor rights out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And can I just also say something about being thirty?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you know, welcome to this decade. But

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<v Speaker 1>for for Becca and all my other Batchlor Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 1>listeners who are in their thirties are about to approach thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>there is nothing like stepping into your thirties. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've heard it before, but it's I can't explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you wake up and you're like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so many things that you did in your

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<v Speaker 1>twenties that you leave behind, and there's so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that come to you in your thirties, like wisdom, um

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<v Speaker 1>just like the maturity, the growth, even the beauty that

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<v Speaker 1>comes out of it, like internally and and and physically.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you what it is about turning thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like a light bulb goes off and I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I showed this with you private, Rebecca,

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<v Speaker 1>that like I came out of a really really tough

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<v Speaker 1>relationship when I was thirty one and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom, and then later in that year my

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<v Speaker 1>entire life change. I don't know, there is something magical

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<v Speaker 1>about your thirties that I'm so excited for you and

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<v Speaker 1>all you other thirty year olds out there. Rachel. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact you just gave me chills all over because when

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<v Speaker 1>you just said magic, that is exactly what I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say. Is like, I feel like it's this weird,

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<v Speaker 1>like magical spot that I'm in right now. Like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's the fact that I also moved to La and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like this new chapter, but it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like magic. It is, it is. I'm telling you. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>when the song thirties the New twenty came out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I was like in my twenties, I might've

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<v Speaker 1>even been my teens, and I was like, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>something thirty year olds are saying to sound young. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now that I'm in my thirties, I'm like, yes, is

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<v Speaker 1>the New twenty and it feels so good. Yeah, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Do that's like turn of thirty. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>just we're not just saying this here because we are

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<v Speaker 1>in our thirties. I'm telling you. Also, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not considering myself thirty quite yet because I never

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<v Speaker 1>had a party because I was in quarantine. So the

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<v Speaker 1>day things can open up and I can plan everything

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<v Speaker 1>and like do something fun with people, that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>turned thirty officially. But I also like, I'm embracing the thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>so I do like it. No, I'm all, I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>for a good party. So like I'm hopping on this train,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's do it. Let's do it. So whoever sent

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<v Speaker 1>this one in, they asked, do we think filming should

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<v Speaker 1>be longer? And would we want it to be? And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great question because it is my last

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<v Speaker 1>week with the guys, with my last two guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the Maldis, I sat down with my uncle Chuck, and

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<v Speaker 1>he asked me that same question because he could tell

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<v Speaker 1>I was so stressed. I was so anxious, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if filming he's good. He always comes in with the

0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 1>hard hitting questions though, and for me at that point, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had two great guys, I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>decide between and so he was like, if you had

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<v Speaker 1>more time, would you take it? And I remember being like, like, shit, yes,

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>if I could, I would, and he's like, well, then

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're not ready, and I'm like, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I am, but like you just made me question things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I don't know. It's like, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get on with your life and find your partner

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to keep filming and being our

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<v Speaker 1>own cameras. But if you had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>more time, I would have personally loved that. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken it, but not like a ton, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks. I would say no, Actually, you're ready.

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<v Speaker 1>If I would have wanted more time in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>but once I had gotten to the end and I

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<v Speaker 1>had narrowed it down, I was stuck in a place

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<v Speaker 1>where I knew what I wanted to do, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was still it was hard for me to let go

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<v Speaker 1>of the other guy. And so I think more time

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<v Speaker 1>would have just made me more confused. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>more like, I knew what I needed to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to be very matter of fact and decisive

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<v Speaker 1>and make that decision and not get caught up in

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<v Speaker 1>a type of relationship that I'm used to. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I would have done with more time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like would I have been pushing for something

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't there, would I have been you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would have been caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in all of that. And I think, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what is the what is the saying? Um? And

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<v Speaker 1>well I was gonna say that the saying of an

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<v Speaker 1>idle mind is the devil's playground, but that doesn't really fit.

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<v Speaker 1>I get. I think what I was more so saying

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<v Speaker 1>is like what I feel like, when you have more

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<v Speaker 1>time to wonder, um, your mind can can go maybe

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<v Speaker 1>to places that it shouldn't so for me because I

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<v Speaker 1>knew what I wanted to do, and I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>I was holding on too, Like why why I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>let go of it? I don't think it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been it would have been good for me. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have wanted more time in the fantasy suites. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I would say. Well, well, when you put it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like it's hard for me now because

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<v Speaker 1>of Brian, because I'm like, Okay, yeah, obviously I would

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<v Speaker 1>love more time in the fantasy suites. But it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me because like I don't I can I remember, Okay,

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>go back to when you were on the Bachelor. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for you as a contestant, wondering because you have

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<v Speaker 1>so many days of Okay, what are they doing? What

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<v Speaker 1>is he doing? Now? Did he fall from? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>did they talk about? They had all this time where

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else could be there? What was it like what

0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>we had? You wonder that and I just remember that's

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<v Speaker 1>the most miserable week as a contestant. So now it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that I'm with Brian, it's like, what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and do that to Brian, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point. Yeah, that well said. And speaking of more time,

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>we unfortunately we wish we could have more time to

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<v Speaker 1>answer more of these questions, but hopefully we'll get around

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<v Speaker 1>to it in the next couple of weeks. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>fun kind of taking a walk down my reeling and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like every time we talk through these things,

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like new memories come up for both of us that

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 1>were like, wait, what about this? And I remember feeling

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>like this. So it's always a good time. So keep

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>dming us your questions. We love to answer them when

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 1>we have enough time. But we love you guys. So

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>now it's actually time for our guests, because we need

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 1>a bringer on. And like we said earlier, Jillian is

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the coolest people. She's a designer, she owns

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>multiple multiple businesses, she's a mother and a soon to

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>be wife. But on top of all that, she's also,

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like us, a former bachelorette, so she has a very

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>soft place in our hearts. So please everybody welcome Gillian Harris.

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, first let's just start like, how are you

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a great? Hey girl, thank you so much for having me.

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate. Just wait, I gotta just address this first,

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>but back, you're in a nursery. Who's nursery are you in?

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Calling our Alice? It was like, people are probably gonna

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 1>think that I'm pregnant. I'm in my nieces. She's hurting

0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a year this week, so I'm back in the Midwest

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 1>for her birthday. So it's my niece's bedroom, much cuter

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>than my own. I should say, yeah, thank you my sister.

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>My sister has like a fun, little quirky touch. So

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. I'm like, we're talking

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 1>about kids in a quit a second. I was so

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>worried about where I was doing my podcast, but I

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>could have really done it anywhere. You're in a nurse room.

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, from our closet. Oh I love it. Hey,

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>this is so so anyways, I'm good, but just first,

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 1>I just gotta get through this. So you guys have

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>been doing this podcast for like almost a year now

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>or how. That's amazing. Yeah, it's going well, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it's It's so great because we get to reminisce a lot,

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, like we're gonna go down memory

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.959
<v Speaker 1>line with you, but we get to reminisce about our times.

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>We get to connect with the fans because you don't

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>normally get to do that, you know, when you're on

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 1>a TV screen, Yeah, putting the show together, but you

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>don't get to interact with fans. We've had fans come

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>on the show and we get to talk to the

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>future contestants and lead so it's like we all like

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we get to connect everyone. It's fantastic. This is this

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>is my favorite having pass bacherettes like having you on.

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>We always get so excited because we were talking about

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we met you at the fifteen year Bachette

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>where you mean last year, But it bonds us in

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>such a way. So it's always fun to have any

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>woman on that just is a go getter. But like

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you are just the epitome of a bachelorrette badass. Oh

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yeah, but you girls too. You guys are

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>doing so many amazing things, like you guys, you guys

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>have so much going on, and I feel like that

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>is something so cool when you're bonded by this group

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of people that listen, Like this life that we're doing

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>isn't for everybody. So if you really do want to

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:44.719
<v Speaker 1>like detach and have a family, then you can do

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 1>that and you're still a part of the group and

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>you're still accepted and appreciated. But then also if you

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>want to like release your own line of clothing or

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.479
<v Speaker 1>it was so sweet like a national television or if

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to have a public wedding. Private wedding doesn't

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>really matter, but it does give you that opportunity, nitty

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to have that platform. And then I had these people

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that support you along the way and shure you along

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the way. Whatever your success looks like, it's so cool. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you this. Speaking of success, Calin

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Bristow has talked about this, Like one bit of advice

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that I think you gave her when she came off

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the show was you know, find who you are, don't

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't just want to be so and so

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelorette like find what like fills your soul and

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>makes you you and go from there. So where did

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>you find that spark? And then also plan on to that,

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like tell us everything that you are working on because

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot. So I think I actually go back

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to this story my very best friend Shannon, her mom.

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I went to I registered myself in school when I

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>graduated to be a teacher. I wanted to be a

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>French immersion teacher because I spoke French has a second language.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything yet at this point, but back

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.719
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, to do with French? And

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>she said to me, She's like, I just don't. She's like,

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, she's a psychologist. She wanted me to go

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>off and be successful, and she's like, I just don't

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>picture you doing that. I picture you with like a

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>briefcase and like starting businesses and when you're young, when

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>you're nineteen, you're like, but what does that mean that?

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I was almost offended because I felt like I knew

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what my path was, but other people were telling me

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. And then when I was one of

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.639
<v Speaker 1>the bachelor, I was I got into restaurant design somehow.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I did have some interior design background, but not a

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>lot none in restaurants, but I just kind of like

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>squeezed my way in there through basically like sales, Like

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's always been my thing. I've always loved

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>marketing and sales, but I just didn't know. I didn't

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>know what that looked like on paper or in education,

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>but that was always my thing. And I actually kind

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of got fired from that job because they told me

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that I just was a corporate enough and I remember

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>my heart just being broken because I felt like, oh,

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be this established restaurant designer and all

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 1>these people will respect me. And then I got fired

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 1>based it was my personality, and my personality was it

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>was weird, Like he just said, like, it just doesn't

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>seem like you fit in with this corporate atmosphere. And

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I was so heartbroken. But he sat down the guy

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>who owns a big company here in Canada called Tactus

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Club Cafe. It's like your version of UM Houston's and

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>golf Stream. Does know that that group of restaurants Houston

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>love existence, Yeah, very similar UM and similar success wise

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and Bibe wise and everything. And he said, I know

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>you're really hurt right now, but I really feel like

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you are going to have a career in television. And

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like what And he was just your personality.

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's too big for here, and I was

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>just only was offended, like I was so offended, and UM.

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember crying home, going home and crying to my

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>parents and saying like part of my language were like,

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is that supposed to mean, you're supposed

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to go on TV, Like, how does somebody just get

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>on TV? Okay, Richard does on TV right now? That's awesome,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like really nice. And so I kind of lived with

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that shame for a few years of the fact that

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody let me go and they thought I was going

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a TV host, but of course everybody wants

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to be TV hos, like easier said than done. And

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>then I decided I was watching, Um, what's the guy?

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who he was, but he got

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>engaged to the Lawless girl. She Shane Lawless. Her family

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is super like Hollywood and her dad is like a

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>producer and she it was like I don't even know

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>what season it was, but she's like blonde, big lips.

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>She's actually has a big following on Instagram, which is

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>funny because none of us. I think she doesn't want

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to be associated with the Bachelor anymore, but that was

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of her claim to fame. And I loved her

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>dress and I remember thinking like, I need to apply

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on this show so that I can have a dress

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>like that, like so weird, Like I don't know what

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking. Of course, I didn't want to get

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>married and have kids, but it was I thought that

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>she was like the cutest little button, and she encouraged

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>me to apply on the show, but it said right

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>on the right on the thing, American applicants only, like

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>basically no Canadians. So I was like, I don't want

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to try anyways, like you never know, they might really

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>like me. And so I got on The Bachelor, and

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>it was so weird because I was like, oh my god,

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>this Richard guy was right like now it's happening, happening,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Like how did that? Like somebody else manifested my dream?

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even manifest it right. But anyways, I have

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>always been kind of the entrepreneurial spirit, Like as a kid,

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I always had businesses, I lead houses. I'm like Forrest Gump,

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>like I've done every job. And then when I came

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>off the show, I remember being so broken hearted because

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I knew in my heart of heart that Ed and

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I were not a good fit, but I just wanted

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that forever love. I'm gonna start crying so bad, and

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a mom was so bad. I'm like,

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to cry again. And I remember feeling like

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>that was never gonna happen. For me, and he's probably

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna hear this through a friend or a friend, but

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like he was really so douchey to me back then.

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>He was not a good person to me, and so

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it just instead of me seeing it as like, oh,

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I know I deserve better than him, it was the

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>opposite for me, like how does he not see that

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I have so much to offer? Like I just totally

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>totally broke my heart. And I was very sick at

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that time, like mentally, I think I was like ninety

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>six pounds and this is when Caitlin was coming off

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of the Bachelorette and oh no, sorry, no, I'm mixing

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>up my timeline. But I just remember being so sick

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and feeling like I was never gonna find myself, and

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>my family and friends just kept on reminding me of like,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>but what were you before that you now have this platform,

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in this opportunity to do whatever you want. And that

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is sort of like what fueled my fire to just go, Okay,

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I know this is going to happen for me eventually.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I just need to focus on what I can control

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>right now. And it was everything from like interior design

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>to communicating to connecting people to creating, giving back to charities,

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:36.479
<v Speaker 1>storytelling all of that, and so now, um, you know,

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and then, of course I did. I did a thing

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>for a while. You remember Extreme Makeover Home edition of US.

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, And then I got offered like this, Um uh,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>what does that show? I did for seven years? Love

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>It Realist at Vancouver was on HDTV. Um, I'm just

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>like babbling. I'm writing to give you guys a chance

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to ask any questions. But here from you though. But

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>while I was doing that, I did love it, but

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I didn't have my own voice. I

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.959
<v Speaker 1>felt like an actress. I felt like I showed up

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>on set. I got my makeup done, which was the

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>best part of the day, and then I just did

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>what I was told. And even though it was great

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>money and like a great opportunity, I felt like my

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>energy was better used out there doing what I wanted

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, telling my story the way I wanted

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to tell it. And so after I had Leo and

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant with Annie, and after seven seasons, and

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>they asked me to come back, and I had no

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>maternity leave with any of the kids. A maternity leave

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>on Canadian standards is pretty awesome. So I probably have.

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I derobably did have Matt leave the American style, not

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Canadian style, and so I just kind of said, I'm

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not going to go back for any more seasons until

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I can just take a break and spend some time

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>with the kids and grow my business. And so that's

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of where I am right now. And I'm just like, okay,

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>now spending the last year being like, O, hey, what

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>am I now that I'm not a TV host? What

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>else can I do? And I'm sure that's what people

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>want to hear because we know you, so we know

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have your presets, you have your books,

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>like you have your Jillian box, Like tell us all

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>those projects that you're working on right Okay, so yeah

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>there isn't already I can't name them all. I'm like what, um, so, yes,

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the cookbook I'm released last October and I don't know

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>if I'm just to say anything, but we are working

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>on a second cookbook. Good yeah, yeah book, Thank you

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>so much. Yeah. It was a labor of love, and honestly,

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how it was going to do because

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>they're your own recipes. They're like anybody gonna like the

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>spaghetti sauce as much as me. So it actually did

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>number one bestseller on Amazon for like two weeks, which like, like,

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>we dedicated the whole book to my grandma, and she

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 1>basically died a month before it went it went live.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>She shouldn't get to see that. But on our book tour,

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>there was all these little sounds that she was there

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>with us. Absolutely the cookbook and yes, the presets were

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>super cool. We would always get people asking us how

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>we edit our photos, and so we just decided to

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>release the presets. And I know a lot of other

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>influencers are doing that right now. So if you're listening

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and you're thinking of doing that, and you think you've

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>got your own touched unreleasing presets, I would suggest it

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>because it's been it's been fun to have a product

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>that isn't an actual product, so you're not worried about

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like the environmental impact of somebody buying this product because

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no resources that goes into it. Accept your like

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and edging your brain right. And then also it allows

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>your community to get creative and to want to capture

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>memories and then to be artistic on their own, which

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I really loved instead of just selling them some thing,

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>what is something that could feed their soul and get

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>them creative again. And also, I mean it was a

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 1>really good and financial mood for us, so allowed us

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to get an office and hire more people, a brainstorm

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>about what our next thing was, and then the Jelly

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Box was born on the fact. So if just to

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>give your run down, the Jelly Box is like a

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>subscription box. It's a quarterly box, buildful full of like

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>my favorite things, but also newly discovered things. We try

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 1>to brought ourselves on the box, being like ninety eight

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>percent plastic free. Most of our brands are either small

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>brands or you know, like kind of my litmus test

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>is like your company has to be at least one

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of the following, like a female owner operated, small brand

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Canadian either North American, made, eco friendly, giving back to

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.959
<v Speaker 1>a charity. Recently, my eyes were opened with everything that's

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>been happening with Black Lives Matter, so really thinking about

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>like a buypoc owned brand and LGBTQ own brand, brands

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that are owned by people with disabilities, so really thinking

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>how to diversify that box as well. And we've just

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>really been connected with some amazing brands and companies and

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>women that way. And so the idea I thought was

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make five thousand boxes and hopefully I can

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>sell all these boxes. But I just I guess I'm

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>also just ramped it up so much over the year

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.919
<v Speaker 1>leading up to it. I didn't realize I had done

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that that when we went to go launch, there was

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred thousand people waiting the guys bogs and

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>they were pissed. They were like, I'm seventy fift thousand

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>in line. I'm never gonna get this box. And so

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>then I was like, oh my god, I'm never going

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to be able to sell this many How if I'm planning,

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>if I want this box in this business to be

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>these high end items from these small brands. Some of

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>these brands have never sold two hundred of their products,

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm let alone five thousand, one hundred thousand, Like

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>they're never going to be able to like to sell

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand of something. It has to be mass produced, right,

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, that's just not what I wanted this

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to be. Like, yeah, I'm sure I could be a

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>multi millionaire overnight, but I want to go to bed

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>at night knowing that I'm still helping up these small brands.

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not contributing to the world imploding. And so we

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>reached out to some of the brands who we are

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>already working with on the next box to say, like,

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>can you do ten thousand? Like is that? Can you

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 1>do twelve thousand? So we're slowly trying to figure out

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>how to support some of these smaller brands. And it's

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>not all smaller brands, Like we have a product in

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the next box that's from Joe Fresh and so there

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>stuff is made in overseaeas and but not. But the

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>other seven products are small brands. Yeah. Yeah, So I

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, I, I know we're going to ask

0:38:55.239 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you Bess direct questions, but you're so inspiring and I no, no, really,

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know one as a bacherette because you came

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>before us, and so you paved a way for us,

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and you let us know what we can do and

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>what we can be beyond just bachelorette, which is such

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a fear you have when you go into it. I

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>remember when I came out, I was an attorney before,

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and I remember when I finished, I felt like I

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>had lost my identity as an attorney. I was just

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 1>known as the Black Bachelorette, and I felt as if

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I had to start over all over again, and I

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>really did, especially venturing into a different industry. And I

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>think people see us as strong and as independent, but

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of fear that comes with it

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's very scary. And then one of the same

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>being on the Bachelorette, like, oh yeah, but I came off.

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember having this conversation with Kelly Rippo, Bless her soul.

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I know she didn't mean to a famy, but she

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.959
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh you silly girl. Yeah, like she hates

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>she hates smart. She loves to do those digs with us.

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>But I think something like, you're talking about being an entrepreneur,

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and you're talking about your way and how you got

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to where you are. I myself have always wanted to

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>be an entrepreneur, but I am terrified. Like Becca has

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a label, Yeah, Becca's working on other things. I have

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>been terrified to start something. And I know I'm not alone,

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>and I know that there are other people who are

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>listening to this right now who have ideas but are

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>can't get over that fear that they have. So what

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.760
<v Speaker 1>advice would you give to someone who is trying to

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like get started. And I know that maybe that's a

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>loaded question, but maybe taking it from the beginning of

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>how do you get started? How do you get over

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that fear I'm getting a pen because I'm taking notes here,

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>selfish question. Yeah, I think I have like two or

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>three really like concrete takeaways. NI is a famous quote

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>by a Canadian hockey player Wayne Gretzky, and I think

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I've said it more than I am. I'm just gonna

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>say Wayne, I'm sorry, it's my quote now. But if

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you miss, you just really do. And it's scary though,

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>because that doesn't mean that every shot you take you're

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna score, right, So that is one thing. The other

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>thing is just being okay with failure. Like we're talking

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 1>about all my successes, but there were a lot of

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>failures along the way. I fucked up a lot and

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>had to like apologize to my following or like you know,

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I started a company called Charlie for ad Vintage, which

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 1>was after The Bachelor, so I was able to use

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>my audience. Technically I should have been so successful, but

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>it was an epic fail. I lost all of my

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.320
<v Speaker 1>life savings. My cousin Tory lost all her life savings.

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Justin left me. At one point Tory just boke got divorced.

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Tory and I were like a man spade, like skinny

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and stressed out. She lost a like friendship basically over it.

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And so we don't talk about those things a lot.

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>But it was like going to Harvard. I learned so

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>much about business, and I've since had business ideas since,

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like the Jilly Box that I've learned about technology and

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>marketing and what will work and what won't work. And

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>back then it was a drop shipping model, which is

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 1>a great idea, like that's what Wayfair and Amazon do.

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>They drop ship, but we were drop shipping antiques. So

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you sell a teacup for twenty five dollars and then

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you do you basically in the end you're taking home

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>like four bucks. It's just it's not and that's one item,

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>so that you got to find another antique cup. So

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't a good business model. But we failed

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and it was really hard on us. But you just

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 1>have to get back on the is it get back

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>on the horse or the horn or whatever horse, right,

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>You're right, it would be really hard to get back

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>up on it. I think you're good. Might be a

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>good time. It might be a better time in the

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>more size, I don't know, blows we'll make a vibration.

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>One might be better than the other, but anyhow, and

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>then the other one is um. Not everybody has this

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>personality in them, but I get this from my mom

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and where I don't really have a strong sense of consequence.

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>So I am one of those people that always gets

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>parking tickets. I'm always running into things, like I'm always

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>hurting myself, breaking things, dropping my phone in the ocean

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>because I'm just kind of like, this is a great idea,

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna work out great, and then when it

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work out great, I'm like, oh, yeah, shit, that

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>was a that was not a good idea. So I've

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of mistakes along the way, and I think,

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like even Rachel, for you, like I can just tell you,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure everybody listening, I'll tell you that whenever

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you your heart desires, when you go to do that,

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right now, it's going to be successful,

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be painful and it's going to be difficult.

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Like the jelly box is successful, but it's a giant

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>pain in the ass, and it was so stressful, and

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I honestly at one point thought I was gonna have

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to like, this is not I'm not sugar coating this.

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was gonna have to go to hospital

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>for like anxiety and like depression. Like I just was like,

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>this is insane. But I created boundaries, I hired more people,

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I got strategic. I was like, I have to get

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>through this, Like what is my option right now? Do

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I close up my business business and walk away? No,

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I just have to figure out how to make it

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>work while taking care of my heart and my brain

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and my family. So I'm like, you just have to

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 1>like figure it out. But whatever. I know it is scary,

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm telling you it's going to be successful. And

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>if it's not and you fail, there's going to be

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 1>success in that failure. You're going to learn from that

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to do the next thing. That's such

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>great advice. It's so important to talk about the failures.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you, Like, I mean, it might not

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>be the most fun thing for you to talk about,

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>but you're a success coming from it. And I think

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>people need to hear that because you see the finished

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>products and you think, oh, like they did it. It

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>was easy out there and they don't see the bumps

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>along the way. Yeah. Even today, like I came in

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>five minutes late to work. It was a gong showdown here.

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I came upstairs, like there's all these walks, some stuff,

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like who's sending this stuff? What are we doing? This stuff?

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Isn't for somebody to help us do this with you guys?

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I got a podcast starting like two minutes. I'm tripped

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>down the stairs. I'm like, I'm hungry. I'm like I'm

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>from yesterday and I'm swearing in Justin's messaging. He's like,

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 1>can you please respond to my text messages? I'm I can't.

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I can barely keep minding together. Okay, I seem like

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I would all together. But there's a lot of swearing

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of boson throughout the day. And but I sure like

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>any of our moms out there hear this and it's

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>so relatable. It's like you jumble forty thousand things at

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>once and sometimes you're like, how the hell am I

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to get to the next spot

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>or like get my mind right, and so like this

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is real, This is like, this is what people want

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to hear because they feel like they're not alone in it.

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>And and like even for me, who's not a mom,

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and like my brain moves a million miles a minute

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's so frazzled. I'm like, Okay, I'm not the

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>only one that like has those days or those moments,

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, what the hell? You know, it's it's

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>good to hear. And also I think that as women,

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, every every person is different. Like take my

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 1>cousin Sam for example. She's just getting into the influencer

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>business right now, but she has like hard boundaries. She

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like to be stressed out. She takes on one

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>thing at a time, and she's not typically running around

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the gamaniac. Can you say, man yac? These days, I

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a lot of words you can't say anyways.

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 1>But I just like I look at her and I'm like, oh, man,

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I wish I was more like that. But then she

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>looks at me for advice. But one thing I can

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>say if there's any moms listening right now that are

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to juggle at all, even if you're not working,

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>even if you're not an entrepreneur, is that there's some

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 1>days where I'm running around like a chick in my

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>head cut off, and I'm like, Okay, I still feel

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a sensor of energy and I'm still happy, and I

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>can I know I can get through this day. But like,

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>for example, yesterday we did a jellybox shoot and I

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:54.240
<v Speaker 1>felt flat and I felt lethargic and I felt fuzzy,

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and I just didn't feel inspiring. And I'm just like,

0:46:58.120 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>how am I going to get through the rest of

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>this month? We have such a busy month. How am

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I going to lead my team? How am I going

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>to teach my kids something? How am I going to

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>do this? And I just I went to bed last

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>night after two glasses of wine and I was just spent.

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I went to I fell asleep for all the kids.

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And so I just want people that are listening to

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>know that there's gonna be days where you feel like

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you're on top of the world, and there should be

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>other days where you feel like a giant failure. And

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that's normal. That's totally normal, and everybody, I think it

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter whether you're Oprah or whether you're me, or

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 1>whether you're you, that's a normal feeling. And I think

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>it is important to try to find balance in your

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 1>life so you're not having those like big roller coasters.

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's normal to have peaks

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and valleys. So this is turning into a therapy session.

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:48.240
<v Speaker 1>That's now too because this is so good for anyone

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>to hear you best. You should be teaching those let's

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>keep popping up on my instagrams and they keep popping

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>up on y'alls I've seen like Robin Roberts, Seanda Rhymes,

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Jillian Harris. That's that's what's really I would I would

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.479
<v Speaker 1>tune into and I would pay big money for any

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 1>type of class that you are running because I'm just like,

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>for me personally, I'm not a creative person to so

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to hear you and see all the things that you're doing,

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like I could be taking That's what I'm literally taking.

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I was taking you out. Both of you women are

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>so creative. You are a creative Yeah, I don't know

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>my brain as creativity can come in like so many

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>different forms like creativity, like especially with your background and

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>law m Rachel, like, your creativity could come in like

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>business leadership or systems or like even finance or just

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>negotiations and all that kind of stuff, Like you like,

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.720
<v Speaker 1>look at what you're doing with your with your label

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and everything's going on. Now you have a new sense

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of freedom which I never really got to talk about.

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>We Hello, more time on your hands so you know

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm texting after this. Yeah, you use that energy and

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you use that like you use all that fire and

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>all that inner to like serve yourself. And also like

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you start up being like what can I do to

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>serve myself? And as you feel more confident, you grow

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>than you realize you can serve others, whether it be

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>through donating to charities or doing speaking engagements and sharing

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:18.720
<v Speaker 1>your story, or partnering with different brands that like speak

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>to you and make you feel better about yourself. Like

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>there's so many different ways with our platform that you

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>can yeah, be successful, which is awesome. But the coolest

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>part that I love is when you partner with brands

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and then they email you and say like, oh my god,

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 1>we sold out all of our stuff like this may

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 1>our whole year, Or when a fan reaches out to

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>you and says thank you so much for sharing your

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>story and going through a similar situation. Like, there's just

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 1>so many cool things that we now have the opportunity

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to do because we have this audience and with all

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the ship that's going on in the world and you

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>have people listening to us. We for our kids, we

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.399
<v Speaker 1>have to like, yes, we can have fun and talk

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>about clothes and wine all that kind of stuff, but

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 1>also there's an underlying message of just like being a

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>good human being and like we have to be louder

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 1>than those other people that are really being really loud

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>right now, but to be louder than them so that

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:18.800
<v Speaker 1>we can change this climate for our kids and their future. Yeah, Okay, Julian,

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I could talk to you for hours

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and just pick your brain all things related to business

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and just creativity and just your path that you've taken

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>because it was a little unconventional, which I think, you know,

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like there's no one path for anyone. So, like I said,

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I could talk to you about this for hours, but

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 1>I also do want to pick your brain because I

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>know that people are a going to wonder if you

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 1>are going to be watching Claire Susan. But one thing

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>before we get into that is Rachel and I were

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about just how things have changed for especially the

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>bad storrets throughout the years and you know, early on,

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>like especially with Trista, there was such a stigma around

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>her being the one woman dating multiple men. And you know,

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>we've seen to grow and evolved throughout the years, and

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>so I felt like when I was finally bad sorrette,

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that. I didn't get really any judgement.

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 1>People were like, okay, you do you you just got

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 1>your heartbroken, like go date those guys. But for you,

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>how have you seen the show evolved since you were bad? Surette, Well,

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I know that when I first told my parents about it,

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody was like, oh, really, is this what

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do? Like my parents supported me, but I

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 1>think everybody was very nervous, especially because it seemed like

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>at that point I already kind of had an established

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:33.919
<v Speaker 1>career and anything. They were worried about what they would

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>do to my career. And I think it was a

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a stakema to it back then, like

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like I would say earlier, like oh you silly girl,

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 1>or oh you're gonna be sleeping with all these guys

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>or making it with all these guys, which it's just

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.479
<v Speaker 1>so awesome in hindsight now that I'm I'm not saying

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that no girl would turn it down at this point. Yeah,

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and now that I'm a one man woman, i'mlike, those

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 1>were some good times back then, like being able to

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have enjoyed it more in the moment,

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>but anyways, Yeah, so there. I did feel insecure a

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit coming off of it, especially when my relationship

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:09.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't turn out with Ed. I just felt like, wow,

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 1>can I not get a break and what is wrong

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>with me? So Luckily my parents raised me to be

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurial and I did like turn it into something positive.

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 1>But now, I mean, the thing is, you go on

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the show. I think most people are going to show

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>are single. But I know this whole like are you

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>on the show for the right reason? Thing? That thing

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't really understand because I would actually

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>question people more if they really truly thought that they

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>were going to find their forever love that way, Like

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you really are doing it for the experience, and your

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 1>experience could be meeting new people, traveling, being exposed to

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the world, trying something scary, or you could fall in

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.280
<v Speaker 1>love and get married, but that shouldn't be your primary

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 1>reason to go on there. Because I feel like you know,

0:52:58.080 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>some of them have worked out, some of them have it.

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 1>They're are no guarantees. And so when people like, for example,

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>my season West, he was a country singer and everybody

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, he only went on to promote his career,

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, of course, of course he did. It

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a more recent season with Hanna b and Jed. Yes,

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Yeah, but you can still find love like

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 1>him and I still developed in a really amazing friendship.

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm still friends with him. We had the best conversations,

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>like I should have picked him, but there were some

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 1>parts with him that were a little too rough around

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the edges for me, and I knew he would like

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>probably cheat on me and break my heart whatnot. But

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 1>we have the best connection. So just because you went

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 1>on to promote yourself doesn't mean that's going to prevent

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you from having a connection with somebody. So and I

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>think people that go on, you know, with hope and

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:50.280
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, it's going to be a fun adventure.

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna travel, I got to meet new people. Like,

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>if anything, it's just a two month long vacation, you know,

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.319
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't work out. But yeah, I think I

0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>think when people go in with such like their expectation

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:04.320
<v Speaker 1>as set of like I'm the one I'm going to

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>fall in love, It's like you don't know that, you

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>have no idea how the other person is and what

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of connection you're going to have. And so to

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 1>just I like how the Bachelor curiaser is do you

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a really good job of making you believe that you

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>are the only one for that person? Right now they're

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 1>talking to all thirty girls, and all thirty girls are

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>getting the same story of like he is looking for

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>a girl just like you. So by the time you

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 1>meet that person, you're like, well, of course they're gonna

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.920
<v Speaker 1>pick me, because that's that's how I what the conversations

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I've had for the last month, every girl is thinking

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing and the same thing. Yeah, brilliant,

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:46.879
<v Speaker 1>it's so great. Did you, like I want to ask you, well,

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>got so many questions towards the end when you were

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>on the Bachelor with like, you know, one of many women,

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 1>did you have that self sense of confidence where you like,

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got this in the bag, like this

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>is it? Yeah? And then like, because I remember going

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 1>into and you know, granted, things were very different on

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 1>our season. But I went into that last day being like,

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>there's no one else, It's me. I got this. I

0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't nervous at lastic because I was like, yeah, this

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 1>is it. And now, looking back, because of the whole

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 1>situation in switcher Roo, I'm like I shouldn't. Yeah, I

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 1>should have like taken a step back and been like, ready,

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the only one here. Sober fresh mony where

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 1>he kind of did basically with Jason did right, Yeah,

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 1>except yes, yes, um, except for insteadneing on the final rows,

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he did it while you guys rowing your honeymoon happy couple.

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, It's so funny because okay, two things. Yes, Um,

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I did think I had it in the bag because Molly,

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this, don't take offense. But it's okay.

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I think she'll understand. Back then, it was Melissa and

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Mollie and they were both basically fresh out of college.

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:54.799
<v Speaker 1>They were both really young. I did not think they

0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:57.919
<v Speaker 1>were ready to be moms. Um and Jason had tie

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, a nit, I was so ready

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to be a mom. I already had an established career,

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I was older than the girls, so I just felt

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>like he would have taken me more seriously, as like

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a mother and as somebody who I thought I was

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 1>more mature at that time. But so I was like,

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>when he picked Moissa, I was like, what, she's a baby,

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Like she's just a baby. She's just like I don't

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 1>even didn't even like this sounds so bad. I love

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Melissa her friends now, but I was like, does she

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>even have a job, Like does she even know but

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.880
<v Speaker 1>how to change a diaper? Like this is just so insane.

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And then when you switched to Molly, I was like,

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, my mind is blown. But now that

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I see their relationships, like Molly and I are really

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 1>good friends, and I find her to be one of

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the most consistent, levelheaded people I've ever met, and also

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:49.239
<v Speaker 1>like such a great articulate communicator. I really feel like

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see how he would have felt so safe

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:55.959
<v Speaker 1>with her, because she's really careful about what she says

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and how she says it, and she's very certain of herself.

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 1>She's got that level of confidence. And so watching like

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I actually just watched parts of his season back and

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, of course he picked of course, Like

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 1>of course it makes sense. But back then it didn't

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 1>make sense to me because I didn't know the girls

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that well. Right, I don't even myself in my relationship

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 1>with him. But sorry, just another thing about Ed, as

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>when Ed and I were on our Happy couple, I

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>always felt uneasy. I always felt like I never knew

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 1>what was going on behind the scenes. I felt like

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he had a secret life. I felt like he was

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>always hiding his phone. I didn't think he was being

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>perfectly transparent to my entire relationship with Ed. I always

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>felt like he was hiding something and he was like

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 1>halfway through our relationship, I was finding he would go

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to like land saying Michigan for like a work trip,

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and then he'd get back and find messages on his

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>phone and said, like come to the hot job, I'll

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:53.600
<v Speaker 1>show you my awesomeness, and like he was texting several girls.

0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes he would come home at like four or five six,

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 1>like it was. It honestly broke my heart because I

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>truly just want it to work out so bad and

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it was just like the most got wrenching, heartbreaking thing ever.

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And I now look back to our happy couple weekend.

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I should have saw the signs, but I didn't want

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to fail again like me. And then this happened to

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 1>add and I was like, oh my god, this is

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 1>so embarrassing, Like yeah, I mean, and that's the thing

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, just for women to like trust your gut

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 1>if there's something off and you can't shake it. Like

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we're much more intuitive than I think sometimes we even realize.

0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 1>And so I get that, um, oh, something you just

0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>said about I'm sorry, I left my train of thought.

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And now, oh you were speaking of, you know, obviously

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:42.440
<v Speaker 1>watching Jason season that replayed during the Greatest of All Time?

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch most of those the Goat episodes back? No?

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Actually that was the only episode I watched. Is the

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:51.360
<v Speaker 1>one that I've been in. I got a level with

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys. I mean, for moms out there who are

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>watching The Bachelor still, I still cannot understand how you

0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>can like wake up at five in the morning, do

0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>everything with the kids, work all day, come home, make dinner, clean,

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 1>have your gossil, and put the kids to bed and

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 1>then sit and watch TV Like I fall asleep every

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 1>night thirty and then next morning I get up and

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh man, I did it again. So I

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to tune in to many Bachelor episodes

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>because I just simply can't stay away yet. And I

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>even like listening to podcasts and reading, like I'm like,

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>where can I find the time to do this? But

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Clara's season I'm especially excited about because she is older

0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and I think more mature. So I think the biggest

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is this is if she did buying love to

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 1>make that as your main priority and my main priority.

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 1>This sounds about it when people are going to hate

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 1>me for this comment, but my main priority isn't like

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:50.560
<v Speaker 1>make sure you make this work. That's so what I

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 1>mean is really dive deep into that because a relationship

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is clearly unconventional. So really like Ed and I actually

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>did go to like some therapy sessions, I think because

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 1>we were really struggling with our communication. So really like

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<v Speaker 1>dive deep into your heart, like is this truly the one?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know that? Are there signs? Are their

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<v Speaker 1>red flags? And if you're continent of everything is coming

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<v Speaker 1>up like a ding ding ding ding ding like this

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome, then you go for that. And then from

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<v Speaker 1>a career standpoint, where is there room? Is there any

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<v Speaker 1>room or space to on top of that, like how

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<v Speaker 1>does your fiance or a partner feel about you now

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<v Speaker 1>now that you've got the relationship, how does that person

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<v Speaker 1>feel that now that you could monetize or take this

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<v Speaker 1>experience to your favor career wise, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, because a lot of people back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day would say, just focus on the relationship. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>caught up in trying to be like rich and famous

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But I do think that you can do both.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love this person and he loves you, and

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<v Speaker 1>your relate the foundation of your relationship is strong. Should

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:02.520
<v Speaker 1>be still room to succeed. There should be no reason

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<v Speaker 1>why your success and your business should destroy the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of right, a lot of people are like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to go and dancing with the stars, but

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<v Speaker 1>she should just be focusing on that she's engaged. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what she can do both? Why can't? Well? And

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<v Speaker 1>men can? Men have been taught to do both, so

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<v Speaker 1>why can't women? It's just yeah, you just need to

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<v Speaker 1>know what your priorities are, especially coming from a TV

1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:27.680
<v Speaker 1>show like no is it your relationship? Is it? Capitalizing

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<v Speaker 1>on your success in your career like what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And find that happy balance. So you speak of success

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<v Speaker 1>because you are one of, like I've said, the most

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<v Speaker 1>successful women that I know. You know, career wise, but

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<v Speaker 1>you also have two beautiful children and amazing fiance, which

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about because we saw you just

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<v Speaker 1>get re engaged. Yeah, so was that was that plan?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about that. So we have,

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<v Speaker 1>we got engaged. So our whole relationship has been very unconventional.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, Justin is like ten years younger than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually when I met Chested had given up. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, I'm starting to find my success as

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<v Speaker 1>a human. I'm starting to enjoy my alone time. I

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<v Speaker 1>had guys in every area code and I was proud

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<v Speaker 1>of it, Like I'm not. I don't I'm not ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>of that type of my life at all, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was just confident in myself. I had a boyfriend in

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<v Speaker 1>like Holland, one in Hollywood while I'm here and Holland, Holland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you and men in different countries. Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. And I was confident in myself. I had

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<v Speaker 1>really strong boundaries. My friends came first, my family came first.

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<v Speaker 1>I came first, and I just was kind of doing

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<v Speaker 1>my own thing, and I had kind of given up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I honestly, honestly thought, Okay, when I get to

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<v Speaker 1>be I was thirty two, when I get to be

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty six, I'm gonna do the artificial instamination. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have babies on my own, and whenever it happens

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<v Speaker 1>for me a relationship, it happens for me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>met Justin in the line at a bar and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, he is cute. I'm like these ten

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<v Speaker 1>years younger than me, I'm like this like a black widow.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is my next victim. And we

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<v Speaker 1>started chit chatting, and he was actually so I could

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<v Speaker 1>tell that he was raised well. You know when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to somebody and they're just really raised well and

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<v Speaker 1>I talk, you just know when you communicate with them

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<v Speaker 1>that they've got a good heart. And normally what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do with a nice guy like that as normally

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<v Speaker 1>I would sabotage it before the first date. I would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, he's too nice, or he's like I

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<v Speaker 1>was going for the bad guy, because I knew if

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<v Speaker 1>I went for the bad guy, I knew how to

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<v Speaker 1>handle them, and I already set myself up for failure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just didn't want to get my heart broken again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so I just I was basically self sabotaging

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<v Speaker 1>myself the whole time in terms of a relationship. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I knew. By the way leaving up to

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<v Speaker 1>ed most of the guys I dated were like not

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<v Speaker 1>good guys, not honest guys. Like I did date a

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<v Speaker 1>few good guys, but not a lot of them. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I met Justin and then I found out he

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<v Speaker 1>was like twenty three and I was thirty two, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what am I going to do? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have babies and you're not ready to babies

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty three, Like this is a disaster. But we

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<v Speaker 1>dated for a good four years and I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be turning thirty six, and I said, like I

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<v Speaker 1>would talked about engagement a lot, but I think he

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<v Speaker 1>just we had a really rough relationship, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because of our age difference and also the

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<v Speaker 1>difference in our career, like where we were in our

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<v Speaker 1>own I think he was he came from a post

1:04:33.360 --> 1:04:35.960
<v Speaker 1>in a boarding background, but then he quit, so he

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<v Speaker 1>felt like he was always the famous one that had

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy career and then he quit that and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's with this girl, and everybody's oh, Jillian this, Jillian that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was sort of like, as a man, where

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<v Speaker 1>do I stand. So we really struggled with in our relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's why we never got engaged, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think we were both like, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get through this. Yeah, And so one

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<v Speaker 1>day I said to him like, honestly, like I know

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't proposed yet, but do you think I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>one that you're gonna have babies with? And he was

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<v Speaker 1>like yes, And I'm like, because my clock is ticking,

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<v Speaker 1>which means your clock is ticking. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a decision that sorry, sorry, kind of made a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>When I turned thirty six, we start trying. But like

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<v Speaker 1>months before my thirty sixth birthday, it happened and we

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<v Speaker 1>got pregnant. And I think he as like a traditional

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<v Speaker 1>he's UM's family's Catholic, Catholic, Catholic. Yeah, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>Justin was like, shit, I should have proposed first. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like pregnant. Now there's no one back now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that always kind of bugged him, like, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>she's right, I should have proposed first, Like it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's no right a wrong way to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when Leo was about eight months was Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>so no August. I've worked over five months old um

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<v Speaker 1>justin proposed um and we just have been I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's terrified of having a wedding, but

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<v Speaker 1>he also is not going to plan a wedding. I

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<v Speaker 1>know he will. I am terrified. I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just it seems like such a thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting to do my whole life that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, no matter what, it sounds so weird, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared I'm going to disappoint myself, like I don't know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, like you are so creative, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the ideas that you had in your brain years

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<v Speaker 1>ago have changed. And you're also juggling like a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen different things right now, so you know it'll come.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I'm sure me everyone included will want

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<v Speaker 1>to follow along and see yading looks like because it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be stunny, like that's just it's gonna regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's gonna be like like our weddings was to

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<v Speaker 1>be last August and when coronavirus happened and we had

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel, I was like, oh my god, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>all these all yeah, there was all these guys that

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<v Speaker 1>were so devastated, and I was like, thank God, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gone to the gym. I had no idea from

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<v Speaker 1>was catering. We hadn't even sent out saved the dates,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like five months before our wedding. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't. I just couldn't pull it out together.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, so how I got re engaged was when

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go try and wedding dresses in Vancouver.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a see our jeweler to pick out

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<v Speaker 1>wedding bands and they noticed I had a diamond missing,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were like, leave us your ring and I

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<v Speaker 1>left them my grandma's wedding band as well to get

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<v Speaker 1>polished up and fixed up before the wedding. So they

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<v Speaker 1>sent it back to us. And it was when coronavirus

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<v Speaker 1>first started and life was very katotic at home. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have childcare, but I was still working. We weren't

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<v Speaker 1>bringing packages inside the house and it was a day

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<v Speaker 1>where I think a lot of jelly box packages were

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<v Speaker 1>coming in a lot of like approval stuff, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I had all these boxes on our front port and

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<v Speaker 1>I had gone to the FedEx guy a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I was drinking rose. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hosses of wine. So I just went and

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<v Speaker 1>I had the kids, and the kids were screaming, the

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<v Speaker 1>dogs were barking. I was on phone call and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going through these packages, and our landscaper had stopped by,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that I was anxious about her being

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<v Speaker 1>in the yard with coronavirus. I was like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the kids away from her and like should she

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<v Speaker 1>be here? And I kind of said to where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, it's a weird week, Like let's just

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<v Speaker 1>not do this for a while. And she was about

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<v Speaker 1>to leave and she said, do you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>take your your recycling to the recycling depot? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like yes, because Justin is a big germophobe. So

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Justin wasn't going to be going to the

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<v Speaker 1>recycling depoacher in the pandemic, and I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of all this cardboard. So I started taking a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of boxes and shoving it, shoving them into boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I the ring, from what I know now,

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<v Speaker 1>was in a FedEx box. I know it wasn't stolen

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<v Speaker 1>because it didn't even sail on it. That it was

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<v Speaker 1>from a jeweler. It was the guy's name, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a small box, Like why would somebody? It was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, but it wasn't in in a heavy ring box.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just in like a smaller like paper box

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<v Speaker 1>or cardboard books, and so it felt empty. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember like now going back, once I realized what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I missed my steps. So then ten days later, I

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<v Speaker 1>said to them, where's the ring? Like, I still haven't

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<v Speaker 1>received my ring. You guys said you were sending it

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago. It should be here by now, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, oh, yeah, you signed for it on

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<v Speaker 1>such and such a date, and I'm like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>receive it. And so we tore the house apart. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I went back into like Justinili and I went

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<v Speaker 1>and looked at my calendar and I was like, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the day that all those packages came, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was too late. We had like we called all

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<v Speaker 1>the recycling depots. We went down there, but they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>our stuff gets processed and then gets put on a

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<v Speaker 1>boat and it's probably on his way to like Thailand

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever in your grandma's room was in it too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>crushes my heart. Well, I mean silver lining if anything

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<v Speaker 1>out of that stories you got another one, another ring.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were devastated because that was the ring. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the ring, and it's my grandma's ring. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of why a lot of people didn't agree that

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Justin to repropose. They were like, you'd lost

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<v Speaker 1>the ring, you should have reproposed. But Justin is very

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<v Speaker 1>traditional and he wanted this ring to feel just as

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<v Speaker 1>special as a lost ring. Trying to cry, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to look at this ring as

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<v Speaker 1>the replacement ring. I want you to look at this

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<v Speaker 1>ring as like another special moment. And it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 1>that much to repropose and show somebody you love them like.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be something that is a heartbreaking thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can turn it back into a beautiful moment and

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<v Speaker 1>if you really do love that person, what's the harm

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<v Speaker 1>and showing them all over again that you want them

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<v Speaker 1>to marry you again. So I agree, I agree, And

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<v Speaker 1>so you just see the right words. That's all you

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<v Speaker 1>need is the right words, maybe a second ring, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yeah, well I love that story. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to be justin because he sounds just like such

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<v Speaker 1>a stand up guy. But before we have to let

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<v Speaker 1>you go, I don't want I don't want you to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just want to keep picking your brain. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to because I feel like our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are just gonna love you and they're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 1>see more of you. So where can we see? Where

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<v Speaker 1>can they find you? Your site? Everything, so they can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fall in love with you? Like, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you beca. I appreciate that, and honestly, this has

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<v Speaker 1>been so awesome. In fact, when I was sitting down,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to look at the clock and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how come we're not drinking wine like they know? And

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<v Speaker 1>thirties a little early for me. I probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>done eleven thirty. So if we do a follow up interview,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it in the afternoon so we can have

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<v Speaker 1>some wine. Yes, if nothing else, I'm gonna FaceTime you

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to do that, yeah, anytime. You So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for allowing me to plug myself Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is where my stories I think is where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm most raw and real and screwing up left, right

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<v Speaker 1>and center. In fact, if you go on follow me

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram right now, hopefully it's not expired. I should

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<v Speaker 1>save it to my highlights. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw yesterday, but I tried to do a beautiful picture

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<v Speaker 1>of me and a waterfall on this occasion, and I

1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:02.839
<v Speaker 1>was trying to, like, you know, instagrammers and the waterfall.

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<v Speaker 1>That hair's wet and they look so sexy. Anyways, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta I'm gonna send it to you and you can

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<v Speaker 1>maybe share it somehow on your guys' thing. I did

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<v Speaker 1>a side by side of how mind turned note and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so bad, Like I'm wearing a white bathing

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<v Speaker 1>suit and you can like see my camel toe, my ariola,

1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:24.320
<v Speaker 1>like my face, I look so I've got a double chin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so nasty. And I just side by side

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<v Speaker 1>with this other blogger that I follow, like how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it and how not to do it. So definitely

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<v Speaker 1>it's not still on there. I'm trying to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh miss, please send it to me. Yes. So my

1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:40.719
<v Speaker 1>instant stories are, I think, are where to follow me best.

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<v Speaker 1>My website is Jillianhairs dot com and we do lots

1:12:44.880 --> 1:12:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of um, lots of recipes. We're always collaborating with different influencers,

1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:52.920
<v Speaker 1>different educators. We do a lot of charity work on

1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the website. The jelly box is cool. It's kind of

1:12:56.320 --> 1:12:58.519
<v Speaker 1>hard to get your hands on one, but you can

1:12:58.600 --> 1:13:01.360
<v Speaker 1>follow over there. And just taking all the small businesses

1:13:01.360 --> 1:13:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that we're partnering with whatnot and the cookbook cook I

1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:08.040
<v Speaker 1>love the cookbook. I love it and it's it's beautiful.

1:13:08.160 --> 1:13:10.920
<v Speaker 1>It has some amazing recipes in it. So yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>highly highly recommend. But Jillie, it was so fun to

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<v Speaker 1>have you. Thank you. I feel like this has been

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<v Speaker 1>a good part walk down memory lane, part therapy session,

1:13:20.720 --> 1:13:24.240
<v Speaker 1>part business consulting, like all of the things wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>into one. So thank you for joining us on our

1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:28.280
<v Speaker 1>happy hour. We love you. We have to have you back.

1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I would love to come back. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, I'm so excited that everybody else got to

1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:40.559
<v Speaker 1>experience Jillian because she's from a different bachelorette era, but

1:13:40.720 --> 1:13:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and we got to know her at the reunion and thereafter.

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<v Speaker 1>But people are understanding why she was the bachelorette, why

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<v Speaker 1>she's accomplished all that she has and why she's so

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<v Speaker 1>freaking fantastic. She truly is, I want to say, jack

1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of all trades. She's doing it all. She but like

1:13:58.439 --> 1:14:03.479
<v Speaker 1>just her charisma and kindness, Like you can really hear

1:14:03.520 --> 1:14:05.559
<v Speaker 1>that when you anytime I talk to her, I just

1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:08.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm floating kind of because she's just so

1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:11.760
<v Speaker 1>positive and she's crushing it. So I mean also too,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, if you guys don't follow her

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, check her out because her page is beautiful,

1:14:16.240 --> 1:14:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like you can get her presets. Like just she's just

1:14:20.640 --> 1:14:23.320
<v Speaker 1>doing it all. And to this day, Rachel, we're still

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<v Speaker 1>in our bachelor group chat. We still are like, when

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<v Speaker 1>can we go to Jillian's and have like another bachelorte

1:14:28.160 --> 1:14:31.040
<v Speaker 1>reunion without the cameras, just us girls on the lake

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada. So that still has to be planned because

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<v Speaker 1>because that's eks happening. She lives in the middle of nowhere,

1:14:37.880 --> 1:14:40.400
<v Speaker 1>she said, She's not like in a big city. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I love to since you mentioned the bachelortte chats,

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<v Speaker 1>what I also love is we'll be talking about something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like gossiping, and Jillian's like, what why did

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<v Speaker 1>that happen. Yeah, should you're taking over the world, like right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you are literally Oprah slash Mark the Steward all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, we get it, we'll update you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love how she's like, where have I been? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>It never fails, whatever the news is. That's her response. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she's so funny. But also I want to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll have a good place to go in November

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how things turn out. So listen, there's several

1:15:21.320 --> 1:15:24.200
<v Speaker 1>there's several trips floating around in the Bachelorette group chat

1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to do, so one of these is gonna stick for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, We truly truly hope you enjoyed that interview,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're really gonna love going down this journey with

1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:34.519
<v Speaker 1>former bachelorettes because we want you to get to know

1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:36.840
<v Speaker 1>them the same way that we did. We want him.

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<v Speaker 1>We also want you to see how they paved the

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<v Speaker 1>way for us and are the reason that we became

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelorette and they set such a great example for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also love that they're from a different error

1:15:46.920 --> 1:15:50.760
<v Speaker 1>when it doesn't seem to be as influenced by social media.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, the stakes just seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit different. So anyways, we hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys enjoyed this as well. We're bringing you so much

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