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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners, and we're so excited about

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Speaker 1: our episode today because, as we mentioned last week, we

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Speaker 1: are officially on the road to the premiere of The

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Speaker 1: Bad Chelarette and we are so thrilled because Rachel, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's just me, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: we just sat down and had Claire on and you know,

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Speaker 1: granted that was actually a couple of months ago, but

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Speaker 1: it feels like yesterday. And so we are a month

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Speaker 1: away from the premiere and on October thirteenth, mark your

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Speaker 1: calendars because we are getting our season premiere and it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be on Mondays. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: on Tuesdays, so make sure you mark that down too.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a change for us all. But

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Speaker 1: last week we mentioned that in anticipation of the upcoming season,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to get some former Bad Cherettes on who

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Speaker 1: we haven't had on the podcast yet. So we want

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Speaker 1: to get them on and get us all pumped up

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Speaker 1: for this season because what is better than some girl power?

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Speaker 1: And so we're going to do that today because we

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Speaker 1: are having a very special lady on one who makes

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Speaker 1: me laugh like no other and who I personally love

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you do too, But we are having Jillian

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Speaker 1: Harris on, and if you are a dedicated Bachelor fan,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, she truly does it all. She's

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Speaker 1: so cool. She's not only a mother as soon to

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Speaker 1: be wife, she's a badass businesswoman. Like I said, she

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Speaker 1: does it all, and so we're gonna have her on

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Speaker 1: and get her talking to us today about all things

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Speaker 1: a bachelorette's past, present, and future. You know, I was,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I'm excited to have Jillian on because

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Speaker 1: I think we both met her for the first time

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Speaker 1: at the same time, which was at the reunion and

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Speaker 1: a fifteen year reunion, and she was hilarious. It's like

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Speaker 1: I had heard about her. I knew that she was

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Speaker 1: the most accomplished bachelorette, and I still am going to

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Speaker 1: give her that title. But I had no idea what

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Speaker 1: we were in for and how great she was going

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Speaker 1: to be. But at the same time, also when you

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Speaker 1: started talking about how we're on the road to Bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, don't you feel like we've already seen

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Speaker 1: this season, because more than any other season, there have

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Speaker 1: been so many rumors swirling around this bachelorette or Bachelorette's

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Speaker 1: plural whatever it is season that I feel like, I

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Speaker 1: I've already watched it. Yeah, I feel like there's definitely

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Speaker 1: more spoilers out there than there than we've ever had

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Speaker 1: in the past, but A I try not to read

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Speaker 1: too much into those because I can't help it. You can't.

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Speaker 1: This one is like to a whole other level, because

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Speaker 1: of course there's always some spoilers, but this one, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think because people are speculating so much, but also

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much that when we actually

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be like, oh my gosh, Like it's just

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Speaker 1: Like I just want to watch it. I want to

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Speaker 1: get to know the guys because I heard that there's

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Speaker 1: more guys than there's ever been, and I just it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be you know. And I think I said this

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison always comes out and says the most dramatic

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Speaker 1: season ever, I truly think that that is going to

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Speaker 1: I do. I totally feel like it's all it's all

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Speaker 1: been played out, whether it be in the rumor mill

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Speaker 1: or you know, it definitely isn't popping off in our

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Speaker 1: bachelorette chat. I'll tell you that. I feel like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're all like Claire, speak to us,

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Speaker 1: but she is so tightited. I mean, she'll respond and

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Speaker 1: you know, she'll give us like the baselines like oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, how are you guys doing? But I'm like,

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Speaker 1: give us more? Wait, can I ask you this? Because

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of flak from this, and it's

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Speaker 1: typically from Facebook moms, because I'm not well liked on

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Speaker 1: for being confused by Claire's poster for the Bachelorette. I

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Speaker 1: have a graduate. I'd never seen the graduate, so I

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what, I'm a little bothered by this.

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Speaker 1: Why are we playing into this cougar mentality? Did we

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Speaker 1: I literally was like, they might as well dress Claire

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Speaker 1: don't like it? Well, no, And that was my first

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Speaker 1: and she was like, what does this mean? And for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, had just recently watched The Graduate and I

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Speaker 1: you said, it's played into this cougar It's like, okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: she's the oldest batcheerrette, Like, let's get over it. At

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Speaker 1: this point, she's still Therefore, why we all became the

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Speaker 1: bachelrette And that was hopefully to find a partner and

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Speaker 1: who cares if she is a little bit older, Like,

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Speaker 1: let her just do her thing. Now it's played out.

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Speaker 1: And so the fact that that was the ad route

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Speaker 1: not enjoy that if that was me, it was I

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Speaker 1: don't like the double standard. And the first time I

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Speaker 1: it was a joke. I was like, why does Chris

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Speaker 1: Harrison have his foot in the middle of Claire's poster?

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Speaker 1: It was so confused and up until I had that interview.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not being critical like everyone's like, oh, Rachel

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Speaker 1: criticizes everything. I just am like, we gotta support our

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Speaker 1: girl here. There's so many other aspects to highlight about her.

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Speaker 1: Why are we get it she's the oldest bacherette. Surely

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Speaker 1: there's more to her than that. Let's not that be

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Speaker 1: the whole spiel or the stick when it comes to Claire. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let it die here, Okay, we know her age, who cares?

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Speaker 1: Let it go. Let her just find love and and

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the journey of this all. So yeah, it could

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Speaker 1: have been thirty nine and fine, forty and fabulous, you know,

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Speaker 1: it could have been. I didn't. I didn't like it.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do you did you have like a

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Speaker 1: theme for your poster? Black, Well, I'm gonna what your

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Speaker 1: poster looked like, I don't im Yeah, I didn't have one.

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Speaker 1: the crown that I like, fabulous. Yeah, but and it

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Speaker 1: Hopefully let's ask what we should ask Jillian when Julian

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Speaker 1: here's to you, missus. Robinson like, no, that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: they did with the poster, I know, but the foot

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Speaker 1: well listen, I had to get your take on that.

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Speaker 1: ask you the first one. And as I'm flipping through papers, um, oh,

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Speaker 1: Alex was at our wedding. And it's so funny because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've said this before, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of my family members thought Alex was Brian. They

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Speaker 1: guess if if they didn't really know Brian. And that

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Speaker 1: I love that he embrace it. I would I would say, Alex,

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Speaker 1: communicate with who else I'm even communicated with Peter Krause,

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Speaker 1: I would say. Well, well, when you put it that way,

424
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it's hard for me now because

425
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: of Brian, because I'm like, Okay, yeah, obviously I would

426
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: love more time in the fantasy suites. But it's hard

427
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: for me because like I don't I can I remember, Okay,

428
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: go back to when you were on the Bachelor. It's

429
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: hard for you as a contestant, wondering because you have

430
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: so many days of Okay, what are they doing? What

431
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: is he doing? Now? Did he fall from? Like what

432
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: did they talk about? They had all this time where

433
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 1: nobody else could be there? What was it like what

434
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: we had? You wonder that and I just remember that's

435
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: the most miserable week as a contestant. So now it's

436
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: like that I'm with Brian, it's like, what I want

437
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: to go back and do that to Brian, that's a

438
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, that well said. And speaking of more time,

439
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: we unfortunately we wish we could have more time to

440
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: answer more of these questions, but hopefully we'll get around

441
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: to it in the next couple of weeks. It's always

442
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: fun kind of taking a walk down my reeling and

443
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: I feel like every time we talk through these things,

444
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: like new memories come up for both of us that

445
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: were like, wait, what about this? And I remember feeling

446
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: like this. So it's always a good time. So keep

447
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: dming us your questions. We love to answer them when

448
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: we have enough time. But we love you guys. So

449
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: now it's actually time for our guests, because we need

450
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: a bringer on. And like we said earlier, Jillian is

451
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: one of the coolest people. She's a designer, she owns

452
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: multiple multiple businesses, she's a mother and a soon to

453
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: be wife. But on top of all that, she's also,

454
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: like us, a former bachelorette, so she has a very

455
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: soft place in our hearts. So please everybody welcome Gillian Harris.

456
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: I mean, first let's just start like, how are you

457
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: a great? Hey girl, thank you so much for having me.

458
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate. Just wait, I gotta just address this first,

459
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: but back, you're in a nursery. Who's nursery are you in?

460
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: Calling our Alice? It was like, people are probably gonna

461
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: think that I'm pregnant. I'm in my nieces. She's hurting

462
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: a year this week, so I'm back in the Midwest

463
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: for her birthday. So it's my niece's bedroom, much cuter

464
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: than my own. I should say, yeah, thank you my sister.

465
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: My sister has like a fun, little quirky touch. So

466
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I'm like, we're talking

467
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: about kids in a quit a second. I was so

468
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: worried about where I was doing my podcast, but I

469
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: could have really done it anywhere. You're in a nurse room.

470
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, from our closet. Oh I love it. Hey,

471
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: this is so so anyways, I'm good, but just first,

472
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: I just gotta get through this. So you guys have

473
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: been doing this podcast for like almost a year now

474
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: or how. That's amazing. Yeah, it's going well, yeah, yeah, yeah,

475
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: it's It's so great because we get to reminisce a lot,

476
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: which is, you know, like we're gonna go down memory

477
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: line with you, but we get to reminisce about our times.

478
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: We get to connect with the fans because you don't

479
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: normally get to do that, you know, when you're on

480
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: a TV screen, Yeah, putting the show together, but you

481
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: don't get to interact with fans. We've had fans come

482
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: on the show and we get to talk to the

483
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: future contestants and lead so it's like we all like

484
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: we get to connect everyone. It's fantastic. This is this

485
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: is my favorite having pass bacherettes like having you on.

486
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: We always get so excited because we were talking about

487
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, we met you at the fifteen year Bachette

488
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: where you mean last year, But it bonds us in

489
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: such a way. So it's always fun to have any

490
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: woman on that just is a go getter. But like

491
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: you are just the epitome of a bachelorrette badass. Oh

492
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, but you girls too. You guys are

493
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: doing so many amazing things, like you guys, you guys

494
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: have so much going on, and I feel like that

495
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: is something so cool when you're bonded by this group

496
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: of people that listen, Like this life that we're doing

497
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: isn't for everybody. So if you really do want to

498
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 1: like detach and have a family, then you can do

499
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: that and you're still a part of the group and

500
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: you're still accepted and appreciated. But then also if you

501
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: want to like release your own line of clothing or

502
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: it was so sweet like a national television or if

503
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: you want to have a public wedding. Private wedding doesn't

504
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: really matter, but it does give you that opportunity, nitty

505
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: to have that platform. And then I had these people

506
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: that support you along the way and shure you along

507
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: the way. Whatever your success looks like, it's so cool. Yeah, yeah,

508
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this. Speaking of success, Calin

509
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: Bristow has talked about this, Like one bit of advice

510
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: that I think you gave her when she came off

511
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: the show was you know, find who you are, don't

512
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: if you don't just want to be so and so

513
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette like find what like fills your soul and

514
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: makes you you and go from there. So where did

515
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: you find that spark? And then also plan on to that,

516
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: like tell us everything that you are working on because

517
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a lot. So I think I actually go back

518
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: to this story my very best friend Shannon, her mom.

519
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I went to I registered myself in school when I

520
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: graduated to be a teacher. I wanted to be a

521
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: French immersion teacher because I spoke French has a second language.

522
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't know anything yet at this point, but back

523
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: and then I was like, to do with French? And

524
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: she said to me, She's like, I just don't. She's like,

525
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: of course, she's a psychologist. She wanted me to go

526
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: off and be successful, and she's like, I just don't

527
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: picture you doing that. I picture you with like a

528
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: briefcase and like starting businesses and when you're young, when

529
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: you're nineteen, you're like, but what does that mean that?

530
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I was almost offended because I felt like I knew

531
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: what my path was, but other people were telling me

532
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: I was wrong. And then when I was one of

533
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: the bachelor, I was I got into restaurant design somehow.

534
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: I did have some interior design background, but not a

535
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: lot none in restaurants, but I just kind of like

536
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: squeezed my way in there through basically like sales, Like

537
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: I think that's always been my thing. I've always loved

538
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: marketing and sales, but I just didn't know. I didn't

539
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: know what that looked like on paper or in education,

540
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: but that was always my thing. And I actually kind

541
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: of got fired from that job because they told me

542
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: that I just was a corporate enough and I remember

543
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: my heart just being broken because I felt like, oh,

544
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to be this established restaurant designer and all

545
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: these people will respect me. And then I got fired

546
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: based it was my personality, and my personality was it

547
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: was weird, Like he just said, like, it just doesn't

548
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: seem like you fit in with this corporate atmosphere. And

549
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: I was so heartbroken. But he sat down the guy

550
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: who owns a big company here in Canada called Tactus

551
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: Club Cafe. It's like your version of UM Houston's and

552
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: golf Stream. Does know that that group of restaurants Houston

553
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: love existence, Yeah, very similar UM and similar success wise

554
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: and Bibe wise and everything. And he said, I know

555
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: you're really hurt right now, but I really feel like

556
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: you are going to have a career in television. And

557
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: I was like what And he was just your personality.

558
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: He's like, it's too big for here, and I was

559
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: just only was offended, like I was so offended, and UM.

560
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I remember crying home, going home and crying to my

561
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: parents and saying like part of my language were like,

562
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: what the fuck is that supposed to mean, you're supposed

563
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: to go on TV, Like, how does somebody just get

564
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: on TV? Okay, Richard does on TV right now? That's awesome,

565
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: like really nice. And so I kind of lived with

566
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 1: that shame for a few years of the fact that

567
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: somebody let me go and they thought I was going

568
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: to be a TV host, but of course everybody wants

569
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: to be TV hos, like easier said than done. And

570
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: then I decided I was watching, Um, what's the guy?

571
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know who he was, but he got

572
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: engaged to the Lawless girl. She Shane Lawless. Her family

573
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: is super like Hollywood and her dad is like a

574
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: producer and she it was like I don't even know

575
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: what season it was, but she's like blonde, big lips.

576
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: She's actually has a big following on Instagram, which is

577
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: funny because none of us. I think she doesn't want

578
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: to be associated with the Bachelor anymore, but that was

579
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: kind of her claim to fame. And I loved her

580
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: dress and I remember thinking like, I need to apply

581
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: on this show so that I can have a dress

582
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: like that, like so weird, Like I don't know what

583
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking. Of course, I didn't want to get

584
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: married and have kids, but it was I thought that

585
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: she was like the cutest little button, and she encouraged

586
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: me to apply on the show, but it said right

587
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: on the right on the thing, American applicants only, like

588
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: basically no Canadians. So I was like, I don't want

589
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: to try anyways, like you never know, they might really

590
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: like me. And so I got on The Bachelor, and

591
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: it was so weird because I was like, oh my god,

592
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: this Richard guy was right like now it's happening, happening,

593
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Like how did that? Like somebody else manifested my dream?

594
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: I didn't even manifest it right. But anyways, I have

595
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: always been kind of the entrepreneurial spirit, Like as a kid,

596
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: I always had businesses, I lead houses. I'm like Forrest Gump,

597
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: like I've done every job. And then when I came

598
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: off the show, I remember being so broken hearted because

599
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: I knew in my heart of heart that Ed and

600
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: I were not a good fit, but I just wanted

601
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: that forever love. I'm gonna start crying so bad, and

602
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a mom was so bad. I'm like,

603
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm starting to cry again. And I remember feeling like

604
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: that was never gonna happen. For me, and he's probably

605
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna hear this through a friend or a friend, but

606
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: like he was really so douchey to me back then.

607
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: He was not a good person to me, and so

608
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: it just instead of me seeing it as like, oh,

609
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: I know I deserve better than him, it was the

610
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: opposite for me, like how does he not see that

611
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: I have so much to offer? Like I just totally

612
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: totally broke my heart. And I was very sick at

613
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: that time, like mentally, I think I was like ninety

614
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: six pounds and this is when Caitlin was coming off

615
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette and oh no, sorry, no, I'm mixing

616
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: up my timeline. But I just remember being so sick

617
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: and feeling like I was never gonna find myself, and

618
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: my family and friends just kept on reminding me of like,

619
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: but what were you before that you now have this platform,

620
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: in this opportunity to do whatever you want. And that

621
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: is sort of like what fueled my fire to just go, Okay,

622
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I know this is going to happen for me eventually.

623
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: I just need to focus on what I can control

624
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: right now. And it was everything from like interior design

625
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: to communicating to connecting people to creating, giving back to charities,

626
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: storytelling all of that, and so now, um, you know,

627
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: and then, of course I did. I did a thing

628
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: for a while. You remember Extreme Makeover Home edition of US.

629
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Oh yes, And then I got offered like this, Um uh,

630
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: what does that show? I did for seven years? Love

631
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: It Realist at Vancouver was on HDTV. Um, I'm just

632
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: like babbling. I'm writing to give you guys a chance

633
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: to ask any questions. But here from you though. But

634
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: while I was doing that, I did love it, but

635
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't have my own voice. I

636
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: felt like an actress. I felt like I showed up

637
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: on set. I got my makeup done, which was the

638
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: best part of the day, and then I just did

639
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: what I was told. And even though it was great

640
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: money and like a great opportunity, I felt like my

641
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: energy was better used out there doing what I wanted

642
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: to talk about, telling my story the way I wanted

643
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: to tell it. And so after I had Leo and

644
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: I was pregnant with Annie, and after seven seasons, and

645
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: they asked me to come back, and I had no

646
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: maternity leave with any of the kids. A maternity leave

647
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: on Canadian standards is pretty awesome. So I probably have.

648
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I derobably did have Matt leave the American style, not

649
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: Canadian style, and so I just kind of said, I'm

650
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: not going to go back for any more seasons until

651
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I can just take a break and spend some time

652
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: with the kids and grow my business. And so that's

653
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: kind of where I am right now. And I'm just like, okay,

654
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: now spending the last year being like, O, hey, what

655
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: am I now that I'm not a TV host? What

656
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: else can I do? And I'm sure that's what people

657
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: want to hear because we know you, so we know

658
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, you have your presets, you have your books,

659
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: like you have your Jillian box, Like tell us all

660
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: those projects that you're working on right Okay, so yeah

661
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: there isn't already I can't name them all. I'm like what, um, so, yes,

662
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: the cookbook I'm released last October and I don't know

663
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: if I'm just to say anything, but we are working

664
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: on a second cookbook. Good yeah, yeah book, Thank you

665
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah. It was a labor of love, and honestly,

666
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know how it was going to do because

667
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: they're your own recipes. They're like anybody gonna like the

668
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: spaghetti sauce as much as me. So it actually did

669
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: number one bestseller on Amazon for like two weeks, which like, like,

670
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: we dedicated the whole book to my grandma, and she

671
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: basically died a month before it went it went live.

672
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: She shouldn't get to see that. But on our book tour,

673
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: there was all these little sounds that she was there

674
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: with us. Absolutely the cookbook and yes, the presets were

675
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: super cool. We would always get people asking us how

676
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: we edit our photos, and so we just decided to

677
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: release the presets. And I know a lot of other

678
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: influencers are doing that right now. So if you're listening

679
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: and you're thinking of doing that, and you think you've

680
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: got your own touched unreleasing presets, I would suggest it

681
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: because it's been it's been fun to have a product

682
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: that isn't an actual product, so you're not worried about

683
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: like the environmental impact of somebody buying this product because

684
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: there's no resources that goes into it. Accept your like

685
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: and edging your brain right. And then also it allows

686
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: your community to get creative and to want to capture

687
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: memories and then to be artistic on their own, which

688
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: I really loved instead of just selling them some thing,

689
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: what is something that could feed their soul and get

690
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: them creative again. And also, I mean it was a

691
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: really good and financial mood for us, so allowed us

692
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: to get an office and hire more people, a brainstorm

693
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: about what our next thing was, and then the Jelly

694
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: Box was born on the fact. So if just to

695
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: give your run down, the Jelly Box is like a

696
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: subscription box. It's a quarterly box, buildful full of like

697
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: my favorite things, but also newly discovered things. We try

698
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: to brought ourselves on the box, being like ninety eight

699
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: percent plastic free. Most of our brands are either small

700
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: brands or you know, like kind of my litmus test

701
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: is like your company has to be at least one

702
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: of the following, like a female owner operated, small brand

703
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: Canadian either North American, made, eco friendly, giving back to

704
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: a charity. Recently, my eyes were opened with everything that's

705
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: been happening with Black Lives Matter, so really thinking about

706
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: like a buypoc owned brand and LGBTQ own brand, brands

707
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: that are owned by people with disabilities, so really thinking

708
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: how to diversify that box as well. And we've just

709
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: really been connected with some amazing brands and companies and

710
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: women that way. And so the idea I thought was

711
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make five thousand boxes and hopefully I can

712
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: sell all these boxes. But I just I guess I'm

713
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: also just ramped it up so much over the year

714
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: leading up to it. I didn't realize I had done

715
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: that that when we went to go launch, there was

716
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand people waiting the guys bogs and

717
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: they were pissed. They were like, I'm seventy fift thousand

718
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: in line. I'm never gonna get this box. And so

719
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh my god, I'm never going

720
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: to be able to sell this many How if I'm planning,

721
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: if I want this box in this business to be

722
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: these high end items from these small brands. Some of

723
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: these brands have never sold two hundred of their products,

724
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: Like I'm let alone five thousand, one hundred thousand, Like

725
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: they're never going to be able to like to sell

726
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand of something. It has to be mass produced, right,

727
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's just not what I wanted this

728
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: to be. Like, yeah, I'm sure I could be a

729
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: multi millionaire overnight, but I want to go to bed

730
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: at night knowing that I'm still helping up these small brands.

731
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm not contributing to the world imploding. And so we

732
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: reached out to some of the brands who we are

733
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: already working with on the next box to say, like,

734
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: can you do ten thousand? Like is that? Can you

735
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: do twelve thousand? So we're slowly trying to figure out

736
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: how to support some of these smaller brands. And it's

737
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: not all smaller brands, Like we have a product in

738
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: the next box that's from Joe Fresh and so there

739
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: stuff is made in overseaeas and but not. But the

740
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: other seven products are small brands. Yeah. Yeah, So I

741
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I, I know we're going to ask

742
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: you Bess direct questions, but you're so inspiring and I no, no, really,

743
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: And you know one as a bacherette because you came

744
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: before us, and so you paved a way for us,

745
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: and you let us know what we can do and

746
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: what we can be beyond just bachelorette, which is such

747
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: a fear you have when you go into it. I

748
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: remember when I came out, I was an attorney before,

749
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: and I remember when I finished, I felt like I

750
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: had lost my identity as an attorney. I was just

751
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: known as the Black Bachelorette, and I felt as if

752
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: I had to start over all over again, and I

753
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: really did, especially venturing into a different industry. And I

754
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: think people see us as strong and as independent, but

755
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: there is a lot of fear that comes with it

756
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: and it's very scary. And then one of the same

757
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: being on the Bachelorette, like, oh yeah, but I came off.

758
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: I remember having this conversation with Kelly Rippo, Bless her soul.

759
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: I know she didn't mean to a famy, but she

760
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: was like, oh you silly girl. Yeah, like she hates

761
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: she hates smart. She loves to do those digs with us.

762
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: But I think something like, you're talking about being an entrepreneur,

763
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: and you're talking about your way and how you got

764
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: to where you are. I myself have always wanted to

765
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur, but I am terrified. Like Becca has

766
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: a label, Yeah, Becca's working on other things. I have

767
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: been terrified to start something. And I know I'm not alone,

768
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: and I know that there are other people who are

769
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: listening to this right now who have ideas but are

770
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: can't get over that fear that they have. So what

771
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: advice would you give to someone who is trying to

772
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: like get started. And I know that maybe that's a

773
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: loaded question, but maybe taking it from the beginning of

774
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: how do you get started? How do you get over

775
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: that fear I'm getting a pen because I'm taking notes here,

776
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: selfish question. Yeah, I think I have like two or

777
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: three really like concrete takeaways. NI is a famous quote

778
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: by a Canadian hockey player Wayne Gretzky, and I think

779
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: I've said it more than I am. I'm just gonna

780
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: say Wayne, I'm sorry, it's my quote now. But if

781
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: you miss, you just really do. And it's scary though,

782
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: because that doesn't mean that every shot you take you're

783
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: gonna score, right, So that is one thing. The other

784
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: thing is just being okay with failure. Like we're talking

785
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: about all my successes, but there were a lot of

786
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: failures along the way. I fucked up a lot and

787
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: had to like apologize to my following or like you know,

788
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: I started a company called Charlie for ad Vintage, which

789
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: was after The Bachelor, so I was able to use

790
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: my audience. Technically I should have been so successful, but

791
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: it was an epic fail. I lost all of my

792
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: life savings. My cousin Tory lost all her life savings.

793
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Justin left me. At one point Tory just boke got divorced.

794
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Tory and I were like a man spade, like skinny

795
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: and stressed out. She lost a like friendship basically over it.

796
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: And so we don't talk about those things a lot.

797
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: But it was like going to Harvard. I learned so

798
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: much about business, and I've since had business ideas since,

799
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: like the Jilly Box that I've learned about technology and

800
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: marketing and what will work and what won't work. And

801
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: back then it was a drop shipping model, which is

802
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: a great idea, like that's what Wayfair and Amazon do.

803
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: They drop ship, but we were drop shipping antiques. So

804
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: you sell a teacup for twenty five dollars and then

805
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: you do you basically in the end you're taking home

806
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: like four bucks. It's just it's not and that's one item,

807
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: so that you got to find another antique cup. So

808
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: it just wasn't a good business model. But we failed

809
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: and it was really hard on us. But you just

810
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: have to get back on the is it get back

811
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: on the horse or the horn or whatever horse, right,

812
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: You're right, it would be really hard to get back

813
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: up on it. I think you're good. Might be a

814
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: good time. It might be a better time in the

815
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: more size, I don't know, blows we'll make a vibration.

816
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: One might be better than the other, but anyhow, and

817
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: then the other one is um. Not everybody has this

818
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: personality in them, but I get this from my mom

819
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: and where I don't really have a strong sense of consequence.

820
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: So I am one of those people that always gets

821
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: parking tickets. I'm always running into things, like I'm always

822
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: hurting myself, breaking things, dropping my phone in the ocean

823
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: because I'm just kind of like, this is a great idea,

824
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna work out great, and then when it

825
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: doesn't work out great, I'm like, oh, yeah, shit, that

826
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: was a that was not a good idea. So I've

827
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: made a lot of mistakes along the way, and I think,

828
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: like even Rachel, for you, like I can just tell you,

829
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everybody listening, I'll tell you that whenever

830
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: you your heart desires, when you go to do that,

831
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, it's going to be successful,

832
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be painful and it's going to be difficult.

833
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Like the jelly box is successful, but it's a giant

834
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: pain in the ass, and it was so stressful, and

835
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: I honestly at one point thought I was gonna have

836
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: to like, this is not I'm not sugar coating this.

837
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have to go to hospital

838
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: for like anxiety and like depression. Like I just was like,

839
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: this is insane. But I created boundaries, I hired more people,

840
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: I got strategic. I was like, I have to get

841
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: through this, Like what is my option right now? Do

842
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: I close up my business business and walk away? No,

843
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: I just have to figure out how to make it

844
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: work while taking care of my heart and my brain

845
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: and my family. So I'm like, you just have to

846
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: like figure it out. But whatever. I know it is scary,

847
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you it's going to be successful. And

848
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: if it's not and you fail, there's going to be

849
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: success in that failure. You're going to learn from that

850
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: and you're going to do the next thing. That's such

851
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: great advice. It's so important to talk about the failures.

852
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you, Like, I mean, it might not

853
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: be the most fun thing for you to talk about,

854
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: but you're a success coming from it. And I think

855
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: people need to hear that because you see the finished

856
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: products and you think, oh, like they did it. It

857
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: was easy out there and they don't see the bumps

858
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: along the way. Yeah. Even today, like I came in

859
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: five minutes late to work. It was a gong showdown here.

860
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: I came upstairs, like there's all these walks, some stuff,

861
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: like who's sending this stuff? What are we doing? This stuff?

862
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: Isn't for somebody to help us do this with you guys?

863
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: I got a podcast starting like two minutes. I'm tripped

864
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: down the stairs. I'm like, I'm hungry. I'm like I'm

865
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: from yesterday and I'm swearing in Justin's messaging. He's like,

866
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: can you please respond to my text messages? I'm I can't.

867
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: I can barely keep minding together. Okay, I seem like

868
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: I would all together. But there's a lot of swearing

869
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: of boson throughout the day. And but I sure like

870
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: any of our moms out there hear this and it's

871
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: so relatable. It's like you jumble forty thousand things at

872
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: once and sometimes you're like, how the hell am I

873
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: going to be able to get to the next spot

874
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: or like get my mind right, and so like this

875
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: is real, This is like, this is what people want

876
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: to hear because they feel like they're not alone in it.

877
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: And and like even for me, who's not a mom,

878
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: and like my brain moves a million miles a minute

879
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: and it's so frazzled. I'm like, Okay, I'm not the

880
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: only one that like has those days or those moments,

881
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: and they're like, what the hell? You know, it's it's

882
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: good to hear. And also I think that as women,

883
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, every every person is different. Like take my

884
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: cousin Sam for example. She's just getting into the influencer

885
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: business right now, but she has like hard boundaries. She

886
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: doesn't like to be stressed out. She takes on one

887
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: thing at a time, and she's not typically running around

888
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: the gamaniac. Can you say, man yac? These days, I

889
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of words you can't say anyways.

890
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: But I just like I look at her and I'm like, oh, man,

891
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: I wish I was more like that. But then she

892
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: looks at me for advice. But one thing I can

893
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: say if there's any moms listening right now that are

894
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: trying to juggle at all, even if you're not working,

895
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: even if you're not an entrepreneur, is that there's some

896
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: days where I'm running around like a chick in my

897
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: head cut off, and I'm like, Okay, I still feel

898
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: a sensor of energy and I'm still happy, and I

899
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: can I know I can get through this day. But like,

900
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: for example, yesterday we did a jellybox shoot and I

901
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: felt flat and I felt lethargic and I felt fuzzy,

902
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: and I just didn't feel inspiring. And I'm just like,

903
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: how am I going to get through the rest of

904
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: this month? We have such a busy month. How am

905
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: I going to lead my team? How am I going

906
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: to teach my kids something? How am I going to

907
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: do this? And I just I went to bed last

908
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: night after two glasses of wine and I was just spent.

909
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: Like I went to I fell asleep for all the kids.

910
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: And so I just want people that are listening to

911
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: know that there's gonna be days where you feel like

912
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: you're on top of the world, and there should be

913
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: other days where you feel like a giant failure. And

914
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: that's normal. That's totally normal, and everybody, I think it

915
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether you're Oprah or whether you're me, or

916
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: whether you're you, that's a normal feeling. And I think

917
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: it is important to try to find balance in your

918
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: life so you're not having those like big roller coasters.

919
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's normal to have peaks

920
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: and valleys. So this is turning into a therapy session.

921
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: That's now too because this is so good for anyone

922
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: to hear you best. You should be teaching those let's

923
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: keep popping up on my instagrams and they keep popping

924
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: up on y'alls I've seen like Robin Roberts, Seanda Rhymes,

925
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Jillian Harris. That's that's what's really I would I would

926
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 1: tune into and I would pay big money for any

927
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: type of class that you are running because I'm just like,

928
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: for me personally, I'm not a creative person to so

929
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: to hear you and see all the things that you're doing,

930
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: it's like I could be taking That's what I'm literally taking.

931
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: I was taking you out. Both of you women are

932
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: so creative. You are a creative Yeah, I don't know

933
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: my brain as creativity can come in like so many

934
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: different forms like creativity, like especially with your background and

935
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: law m Rachel, like, your creativity could come in like

936
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: business leadership or systems or like even finance or just

937
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: negotiations and all that kind of stuff, Like you like,

938
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: look at what you're doing with your with your label

939
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: and everything's going on. Now you have a new sense

940
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: of freedom which I never really got to talk about.

941
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: We Hello, more time on your hands so you know

942
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm texting after this. Yeah, you use that energy and

943
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: you use that like you use all that fire and

944
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: all that inner to like serve yourself. And also like

945
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: you start up being like what can I do to

946
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: serve myself? And as you feel more confident, you grow

947
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: than you realize you can serve others, whether it be

948
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: through donating to charities or doing speaking engagements and sharing

949
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: your story, or partnering with different brands that like speak

950
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: to you and make you feel better about yourself. Like

951
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: there's so many different ways with our platform that you

952
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: can yeah, be successful, which is awesome. But the coolest

953
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: part that I love is when you partner with brands

954
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: and then they email you and say like, oh my god,

955
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: we sold out all of our stuff like this may

956
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: our whole year, Or when a fan reaches out to

957
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: you and says thank you so much for sharing your

958
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: story and going through a similar situation. Like, there's just

959
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: so many cool things that we now have the opportunity

960
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: to do because we have this audience and with all

961
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: the ship that's going on in the world and you

962
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: have people listening to us. We for our kids, we

963
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: have to like, yes, we can have fun and talk

964
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: about clothes and wine all that kind of stuff, but

965
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: also there's an underlying message of just like being a

966
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: good human being and like we have to be louder

967
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: than those other people that are really being really loud

968
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: right now, but to be louder than them so that

969
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: we can change this climate for our kids and their future. Yeah, Okay, Julian,

970
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I could talk to you for hours

971
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: and just pick your brain all things related to business

972
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: and just creativity and just your path that you've taken

973
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: because it was a little unconventional, which I think, you know,

974
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: like there's no one path for anyone. So, like I said,

975
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: I could talk to you about this for hours, but

976
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: I also do want to pick your brain because I

977
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: know that people are a going to wonder if you

978
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: are going to be watching Claire Susan. But one thing

979
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: before we get into that is Rachel and I were

980
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: talking about just how things have changed for especially the

981
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: bad storrets throughout the years and you know, early on,

982
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: like especially with Trista, there was such a stigma around

983
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: her being the one woman dating multiple men. And you know,

984
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: we've seen to grow and evolved throughout the years, and

985
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: so I felt like when I was finally bad sorrette,

986
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: I didn't get that. I didn't get really any judgement.

987
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: People were like, okay, you do you you just got

988
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: your heartbroken, like go date those guys. But for you,

989
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: how have you seen the show evolved since you were bad? Surette, Well,

990
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: I know that when I first told my parents about it,

991
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, everybody was like, oh, really, is this what

992
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna do? Like my parents supported me, but I

993
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: think everybody was very nervous, especially because it seemed like

994
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: at that point I already kind of had an established

995
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: career and anything. They were worried about what they would

996
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: do to my career. And I think it was a

997
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a stakema to it back then, like

998
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: like I would say earlier, like oh you silly girl,

999
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: or oh you're gonna be sleeping with all these guys

1000
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: or making it with all these guys, which it's just

1001
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 1: so awesome in hindsight now that I'm I'm not saying

1002
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: that no girl would turn it down at this point. Yeah,

1003
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: and now that I'm a one man woman, i'mlike, those

1004
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: were some good times back then, like being able to

1005
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: I wish I would have enjoyed it more in the moment,

1006
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: but anyways, Yeah, so there. I did feel insecure a

1007
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: little bit coming off of it, especially when my relationship

1008
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: didn't turn out with Ed. I just felt like, wow,

1009
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: can I not get a break and what is wrong

1010
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: with me? So Luckily my parents raised me to be

1011
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial and I did like turn it into something positive.

1012
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: But now, I mean, the thing is, you go on

1013
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: the show. I think most people are going to show

1014
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: are single. But I know this whole like are you

1015
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: on the show for the right reason? Thing? That thing

1016
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really understand because I would actually

1017
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: question people more if they really truly thought that they

1018
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: were going to find their forever love that way, Like

1019
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you really are doing it for the experience, and your

1020
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: experience could be meeting new people, traveling, being exposed to

1021
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: the world, trying something scary, or you could fall in

1022
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: love and get married, but that shouldn't be your primary

1023
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: reason to go on there. Because I feel like you know,

1024
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: some of them have worked out, some of them have it.

1025
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: They're are no guarantees. And so when people like, for example,

1026
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: my season West, he was a country singer and everybody

1027
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: was like, he only went on to promote his career,

1028
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, of course, of course he did. It

1029
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: sounds like a more recent season with Hanna b and Jed. Yes,

1030
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, but you can still find love like

1031
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: him and I still developed in a really amazing friendship.

1032
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with him. We had the best conversations,

1033
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: like I should have picked him, but there were some

1034
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: parts with him that were a little too rough around

1035
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: the edges for me, and I knew he would like

1036
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: probably cheat on me and break my heart whatnot. But

1037
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: we have the best connection. So just because you went

1038
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: on to promote yourself doesn't mean that's going to prevent

1039
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: you from having a connection with somebody. So and I

1040
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: think people that go on, you know, with hope and

1041
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, it's going to be a fun adventure.

1042
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna travel, I got to meet new people. Like,

1043
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: if anything, it's just a two month long vacation, you know,

1044
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out. But yeah, I think I

1045
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: think when people go in with such like their expectation

1046
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: as set of like I'm the one I'm going to

1047
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: fall in love, It's like you don't know that, you

1048
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: have no idea how the other person is and what

1049
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of connection you're going to have. And so to

1050
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: just I like how the Bachelor curiaser is do you

1051
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: a really good job of making you believe that you

1052
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: are the only one for that person? Right now they're

1053
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: talking to all thirty girls, and all thirty girls are

1054
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: getting the same story of like he is looking for

1055
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: a girl just like you. So by the time you

1056
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: meet that person, you're like, well, of course they're gonna

1057
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: pick me, because that's that's how I what the conversations

1058
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: I've had for the last month, every girl is thinking

1059
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: the exact same thing and the same thing. Yeah, brilliant,

1060
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: it's so great. Did you, like I want to ask you, well,

1061
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: got so many questions towards the end when you were

1062
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor with like, you know, one of many women,

1063
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: did you have that self sense of confidence where you like,

1064
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, I got this in the bag, like this

1065
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? And then like, because I remember going

1066
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: into and you know, granted, things were very different on

1067
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: our season. But I went into that last day being like,

1068
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: there's no one else, It's me. I got this. I

1069
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: wasn't nervous at lastic because I was like, yeah, this

1070
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: is it. And now, looking back, because of the whole

1071
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: situation in switcher Roo, I'm like I shouldn't. Yeah, I

1072
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: should have like taken a step back and been like, ready,

1073
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one here. Sober fresh mony where

1074
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: he kind of did basically with Jason did right, Yeah,

1075
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: except yes, yes, um, except for insteadneing on the final rows,

1076
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: he did it while you guys rowing your honeymoon happy couple.

1077
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah right, It's so funny because okay, two things. Yes, Um,

1078
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: I did think I had it in the bag because Molly,

1079
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, don't take offense. But it's okay.

1080
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: I think she'll understand. Back then, it was Melissa and

1081
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: Mollie and they were both basically fresh out of college.

1082
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: They were both really young. I did not think they

1083
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 1: were ready to be moms. Um and Jason had tie

1084
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, a nit, I was so ready

1085
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: to be a mom. I already had an established career,

1086
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: I was older than the girls, so I just felt

1087
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: like he would have taken me more seriously, as like

1088
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: a mother and as somebody who I thought I was

1089
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: more mature at that time. But so I was like,

1090
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: when he picked Moissa, I was like, what, she's a baby,

1091
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: Like she's just a baby. She's just like I don't

1092
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: even didn't even like this sounds so bad. I love

1093
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: Melissa her friends now, but I was like, does she

1094
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: even have a job, Like does she even know but

1095
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: how to change a diaper? Like this is just so insane.

1096
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: And then when you switched to Molly, I was like,

1097
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, my mind is blown. But now that

1098
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: I see their relationships, like Molly and I are really

1099
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: good friends, and I find her to be one of

1100
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: the most consistent, levelheaded people I've ever met, and also

1101
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: like such a great articulate communicator. I really feel like

1102
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't see how he would have felt so safe

1103
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 1: with her, because she's really careful about what she says

1104
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: and how she says it, and she's very certain of herself.

1105
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: She's got that level of confidence. And so watching like

1106
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: I actually just watched parts of his season back and

1107
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, of course he picked of course, Like

1108
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: of course it makes sense. But back then it didn't

1109
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: make sense to me because I didn't know the girls

1110
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: that well. Right, I don't even myself in my relationship

1111
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: with him. But sorry, just another thing about Ed, as

1112
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: when Ed and I were on our Happy couple, I

1113
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: always felt uneasy. I always felt like I never knew

1114
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: what was going on behind the scenes. I felt like

1115
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: he had a secret life. I felt like he was

1116
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: always hiding his phone. I didn't think he was being

1117
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: perfectly transparent to my entire relationship with Ed. I always

1118
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: felt like he was hiding something and he was like

1119
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: halfway through our relationship, I was finding he would go

1120
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: to like land saying Michigan for like a work trip,

1121
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: and then he'd get back and find messages on his

1122
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: phone and said, like come to the hot job, I'll

1123
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: show you my awesomeness, and like he was texting several girls.

1124
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes he would come home at like four or five six,

1125
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: like it was. It honestly broke my heart because I

1126
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: truly just want it to work out so bad and

1127
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: it was just like the most got wrenching, heartbreaking thing ever.

1128
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: And I now look back to our happy couple weekend.

1129
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: I should have saw the signs, but I didn't want

1130
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: to fail again like me. And then this happened to

1131
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: add and I was like, oh my god, this is

1132
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: so embarrassing, Like yeah, I mean, and that's the thing

1133
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: I think, just for women to like trust your gut

1134
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: if there's something off and you can't shake it. Like

1135
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: we're much more intuitive than I think sometimes we even realize.

1136
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: And so I get that, um, oh, something you just

1137
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: said about I'm sorry, I left my train of thought.

1138
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: And now, oh you were speaking of, you know, obviously

1139
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: watching Jason season that replayed during the Greatest of All Time?

1140
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: Did you watch most of those the Goat episodes back? No?

1141
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Actually that was the only episode I watched. Is the

1142
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: one that I've been in. I got a level with

1143
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: you guys. I mean, for moms out there who are

1144
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: watching The Bachelor still, I still cannot understand how you

1145
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: can like wake up at five in the morning, do

1146
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: everything with the kids, work all day, come home, make dinner, clean,

1147
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: have your gossil, and put the kids to bed and

1148
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: then sit and watch TV Like I fall asleep every

1149
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: night thirty and then next morning I get up and

1150
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, I did it again. So I

1151
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: haven't been able to tune in to many Bachelor episodes

1152
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: because I just simply can't stay away yet. And I

1153
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: even like listening to podcasts and reading, like I'm like,

1154
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: where can I find the time to do this? But

1155
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: Clara's season I'm especially excited about because she is older

1156
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: and I think more mature. So I think the biggest

1157
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: thing is this is if she did buying love to

1158
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: make that as your main priority and my main priority.

1159
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: This sounds about it when people are going to hate

1160
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: me for this comment, but my main priority isn't like

1161
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: make sure you make this work. That's so what I

1162
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: mean is really dive deep into that because a relationship

1163
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: is clearly unconventional. So really like Ed and I actually

1164
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: did go to like some therapy sessions, I think because

1165
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: we were really struggling with our communication. So really like

1166
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: dive deep into your heart, like is this truly the one?

1167
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: How do you know that? Are there signs? Are their

1168
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 1: red flags? And if you're continent of everything is coming

1169
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: up like a ding ding ding ding ding like this

1170
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: is awesome, then you go for that. And then from

1171
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: a career standpoint, where is there room? Is there any

1172
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: room or space to on top of that, like how

1173
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: does your fiance or a partner feel about you now

1174
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: now that you've got the relationship, how does that person

1175
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: feel that now that you could monetize or take this

1176
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: experience to your favor career wise, if you want to

1177
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: do that, because a lot of people back in the

1178
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: day would say, just focus on the relationship. Don't get

1179
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: caught up in trying to be like rich and famous

1180
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I do think that you can do both.

1181
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: If you love this person and he loves you, and

1182
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: your relate the foundation of your relationship is strong. Should

1183
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: be still room to succeed. There should be no reason

1184
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: why your success and your business should destroy the relationship.

1185
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: So a lot of right, a lot of people are like, oh, well,

1186
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: she wanted to go and dancing with the stars, but

1187
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: she should just be focusing on that she's engaged. Well,

1188
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: guess what she can do both? Why can't? Well? And

1189
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: men can? Men have been taught to do both, so

1190
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: why can't women? It's just yeah, you just need to

1191
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: know what your priorities are, especially coming from a TV

1192
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: show like no is it your relationship? Is it? Capitalizing

1193
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: on your success in your career like what is it?

1194
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: And find that happy balance. So you speak of success

1195
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: because you are one of, like I've said, the most

1196
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: successful women that I know. You know, career wise, but

1197
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: you also have two beautiful children and amazing fiance, which

1198
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: I want to talk about because we saw you just

1199
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: get re engaged. Yeah, so was that was that plan?

1200
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that. So we have,

1201
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: we got engaged. So our whole relationship has been very unconventional.

1202
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: First of all, Justin is like ten years younger than me.

1203
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: I actually when I met Chested had given up. I

1204
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm starting to find my success as

1205
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: a human. I'm starting to enjoy my alone time. I

1206
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: had guys in every area code and I was proud

1207
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: of it, Like I'm not. I don't I'm not ashamed

1208
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: of that type of my life at all, because I

1209
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: was just confident in myself. I had a boyfriend in

1210
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: like Holland, one in Hollywood while I'm here and Holland, Holland.

1211
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you and men in different countries. Oh yeah, I

1212
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: love it. And I was confident in myself. I had

1213
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: really strong boundaries. My friends came first, my family came first.

1214
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: I came first, and I just was kind of doing

1215
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: my own thing, and I had kind of given up,

1216
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: and I honestly, honestly thought, Okay, when I get to

1217
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: be I was thirty two, when I get to be

1218
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: like thirty six, I'm gonna do the artificial instamination. I'm

1219
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna have babies on my own, and whenever it happens

1220
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: for me a relationship, it happens for me. And I

1221
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: met Justin in the line at a bar and I

1222
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he is cute. I'm like these ten

1223
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: years younger than me, I'm like this like a black widow.

1224
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my next victim. And we

1225
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: started chit chatting, and he was actually so I could

1226
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: tell that he was raised well. You know when you

1227
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: talk to somebody and they're just really raised well and

1228
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: I talk, you just know when you communicate with them

1229
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: that they've got a good heart. And normally what I

1230
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: would do with a nice guy like that as normally

1231
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: I would sabotage it before the first date. I would

1232
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: be like, oh, he's too nice, or he's like I

1233
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: was going for the bad guy, because I knew if

1234
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: I went for the bad guy, I knew how to

1235
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: handle them, and I already set myself up for failure.

1236
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: And I just didn't want to get my heart broken again.

1237
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: And then so I just I was basically self sabotaging

1238
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: myself the whole time in terms of a relationship. But

1239
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: that's all I knew. By the way leaving up to

1240
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: ed most of the guys I dated were like not

1241
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: good guys, not honest guys. Like I did date a

1242
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: few good guys, but not a lot of them. So

1243
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: when I met Justin and then I found out he

1244
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: was like twenty three and I was thirty two, and

1245
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I going to do? Like

1246
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't have babies and you're not ready to babies

1247
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: at twenty three, Like this is a disaster. But we

1248
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: dated for a good four years and I was going

1249
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: to be turning thirty six, and I said, like I

1250
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: would talked about engagement a lot, but I think he

1251
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: just we had a really rough relationship, to be honest,

1252
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: I think because of our age difference and also the

1253
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: difference in our career, like where we were in our

1254
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: own I think he was he came from a post

1255
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: in a boarding background, but then he quit, so he

1256
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: felt like he was always the famous one that had

1257
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: this crazy career and then he quit that and then

1258
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: he's with this girl, and everybody's oh, Jillian this, Jillian that,

1259
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: and he was sort of like, as a man, where

1260
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: do I stand. So we really struggled with in our relationship,

1261
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: and I think that's why we never got engaged, because

1262
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: I think we were both like, I don't know if

1263
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: we're going to get through this. Yeah, And so one

1264
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: day I said to him like, honestly, like I know

1265
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Speaker 1: you haven't proposed yet, but do you think I'm the

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: one that you're gonna have babies with? And he was

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 1: like yes, And I'm like, because my clock is ticking,

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01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: which means your clock is ticking. So we're going to

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01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: make a decision that sorry, sorry, kind of made a decision.

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01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: When I turned thirty six, we start trying. But like

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: months before my thirty sixth birthday, it happened and we

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01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: got pregnant. And I think he as like a traditional

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: he's UM's family's Catholic, Catholic, Catholic. Yeah, And I think

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01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: Justin was like, shit, I should have proposed first. I'm like, well,

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01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: I didn't like pregnant. Now there's no one back now.

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01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: I think that always kind of bugged him, like, shit,

1277
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: she's right, I should have proposed first, Like it's okay,

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: Like there's no right a wrong way to do this.

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01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: And so when Leo was about eight months was Christmas,

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: so no August. I've worked over five months old um

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: justin proposed um and we just have been I've been.

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he's terrified of having a wedding, but

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01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: he also is not going to plan a wedding. I

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01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: know he will. I am terrified. I just I don't know.

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm just it seems like such a thing

1286
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: I've been waiting to do my whole life that I

1287
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: feel like, no matter what, it sounds so weird, but

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01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm scared I'm going to disappoint myself, like I don't know, well,

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: and you know, like you are so creative, so I'm

1290
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: sure the ideas that you had in your brain years

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: ago have changed. And you're also juggling like a thousand

1292
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: and fourteen different things right now, so you know it'll come.

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01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm sure me everyone included will want

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01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: to follow along and see yading looks like because it's

1295
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: going to be stunny, like that's just it's gonna regardless,

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01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be like like our weddings was to

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01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: be last August and when coronavirus happened and we had

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01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: to cancel, I was like, oh my god, like there's

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: all these all yeah, there was all these guys that

1300
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: were so devastated, and I was like, thank God, I

1301
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: haven't gone to the gym. I had no idea from

1302
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: was catering. We hadn't even sent out saved the dates,

1303
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: and it was like five months before our wedding. Like

1304
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: I just couldn't. I just couldn't pull it out together.

1305
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: But anyways, so how I got re engaged was when

1306
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: I want to go try and wedding dresses in Vancouver.

1307
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: I went to a see our jeweler to pick out

1308
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: wedding bands and they noticed I had a diamond missing,

1309
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: so they were like, leave us your ring and I

1310
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: left them my grandma's wedding band as well to get

1311
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: polished up and fixed up before the wedding. So they

1312
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: sent it back to us. And it was when coronavirus

1313
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: first started and life was very katotic at home. We

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: didn't have childcare, but I was still working. We weren't

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: bringing packages inside the house and it was a day

1316
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: where I think a lot of jelly box packages were

1317
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: coming in a lot of like approval stuff, and so

1318
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: I had all these boxes on our front port and

1319
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: I had gone to the FedEx guy a few times,

1320
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: and I think I was drinking rose. I had a

1321
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: couple of hosses of wine. So I just went and

1322
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: I had the kids, and the kids were screaming, the

1323
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: dogs were barking. I was on phone call and I'm

1324
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: going through these packages, and our landscaper had stopped by,

1325
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: and I know that I was anxious about her being

1326
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: in the yard with coronavirus. I was like trying to

1327
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: keep the kids away from her and like should she

1328
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: be here? And I kind of said to where I'm like,

1329
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: you know what, it's a weird week, Like let's just

1330
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: not do this for a while. And she was about

1331
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: to leave and she said, do you want me to

1332
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: take your your recycling to the recycling depot? And I

1333
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: was like yes, because Justin is a big germophobe. So

1334
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: I knew Justin wasn't going to be going to the

1335
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: recycling depoacher in the pandemic, and I wanted to get

1336
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: rid of all this cardboard. So I started taking a

1337
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: bunch of boxes and shoving it, shoving them into boxes,

1338
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: and so I the ring, from what I know now,

1339
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: was in a FedEx box. I know it wasn't stolen

1340
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: because it didn't even sail on it. That it was

1341
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: from a jeweler. It was the guy's name, and it

1342
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: was a small box, Like why would somebody? It was

1343
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, but it wasn't in in a heavy ring box.

1344
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: It was just in like a smaller like paper box

1345
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: or cardboard books, and so it felt empty. And I

1346
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: remember like now going back, once I realized what happened,

1347
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: I missed my steps. So then ten days later, I

1348
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 1: said to them, where's the ring? Like, I still haven't

1349
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: received my ring. You guys said you were sending it

1350
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. It should be here by now, and

1351
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, yeah, you signed for it on

1352
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: such and such a date, and I'm like, I didn't

1353
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: receive it. And so we tore the house apart. And

1354
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: then I went back into like Justinili and I went

1355
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: and looked at my calendar and I was like, that

1356
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: was the day that all those packages came, and then

1357
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: it was too late. We had like we called all

1358
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: the recycling depots. We went down there, but they were like,

1359
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: our stuff gets processed and then gets put on a

1360
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: boat and it's probably on his way to like Thailand

1361
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: or wherever in your grandma's room was in it too, Yeah,

1362
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: crushes my heart. Well, I mean silver lining if anything

1363
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: out of that stories you got another one, another ring.

1364
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: So we were devastated because that was the ring. That

1365
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: was the ring, and it's my grandma's ring. And that's

1366
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: kind of why a lot of people didn't agree that

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: I asked Justin to repropose. They were like, you'd lost

1368
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: the ring, you should have reproposed. But Justin is very

1369
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: traditional and he wanted this ring to feel just as

1370
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: special as a lost ring. Trying to cry, he was like,

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01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: I don't want you to look at this ring as

1372
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: the replacement ring. I want you to look at this

1373
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: ring as like another special moment. And it doesn't take

1374
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: that much to repropose and show somebody you love them like.

1375
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: It can be something that is a heartbreaking thing, but

1376
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: you can turn it back into a beautiful moment and

1377
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: if you really do love that person, what's the harm

1378
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: and showing them all over again that you want them

1379
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: to marry you again. So I agree, I agree, And

1380
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: so you just see the right words. That's all you

1381
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: need is the right words, maybe a second ring, who knows,

1382
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, well I love that story. I can't

1383
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: wait to be justin because he sounds just like such

1384
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: a stand up guy. But before we have to let

1385
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: you go, I don't want I don't want you to leave.

1386
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: I would just want to keep picking your brain. But

1387
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: I just want to because I feel like our listeners

1388
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: are just gonna love you and they're gonna want to

1389
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: see more of you. So where can we see? Where

1390
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: can they find you? Your site? Everything, so they can,

1391
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, fall in love with you? Like, oh, yes,

1392
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: thank you beca. I appreciate that, and honestly, this has

1393
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: been so awesome. In fact, when I was sitting down,

1394
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: I had to look at the clock and I was like, oh,

1395
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: how come we're not drinking wine like they know? And

1396
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: thirties a little early for me. I probably would have

1397
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: done eleven thirty. So if we do a follow up interview,

1398
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: let's do it in the afternoon so we can have

1399
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: some wine. Yes, if nothing else, I'm gonna FaceTime you

1400
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: and we're going to do that, yeah, anytime. You So

1401
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,440
Speaker 1: thank you so much for allowing me to plug myself Instagram.

1402
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: I think is where my stories I think is where

1403
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm most raw and real and screwing up left, right

1404
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: and center. In fact, if you go on follow me

1405
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: on Instagram right now, hopefully it's not expired. I should

1406
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: save it to my highlights. I don't know if you

1407
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: saw yesterday, but I tried to do a beautiful picture

1408
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: of me and a waterfall on this occasion, and I

1409
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 1: was trying to, like, you know, instagrammers and the waterfall.

1410
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: That hair's wet and they look so sexy. Anyways, I

1411
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: gotta I'm gonna send it to you and you can

1412
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: maybe share it somehow on your guys' thing. I did

1413
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: a side by side of how mind turned note and

1414
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: it's just so bad, Like I'm wearing a white bathing

1415
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: suit and you can like see my camel toe, my ariola,

1416
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: like my face, I look so I've got a double chin.

1417
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: It's just so nasty. And I just side by side

1418
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: with this other blogger that I follow, like how to

1419
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 1: do it and how not to do it. So definitely

1420
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: it's not still on there. I'm trying to find it.

1421
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: Oh miss, please send it to me. Yes. So my

1422
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 1: instant stories are, I think, are where to follow me best.

1423
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: My website is Jillianhairs dot com and we do lots

1424
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: of um, lots of recipes. We're always collaborating with different influencers,

1425
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: different educators. We do a lot of charity work on

1426
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: the website. The jelly box is cool. It's kind of

1427
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: hard to get your hands on one, but you can

1428
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: follow over there. And just taking all the small businesses

1429
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: that we're partnering with whatnot and the cookbook cook I

1430
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: love the cookbook. I love it and it's it's beautiful.

1431
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: It has some amazing recipes in it. So yes, I

1432
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: highly highly recommend. But Jillie, it was so fun to

1433
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: have you. Thank you. I feel like this has been

1434
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 1: a good part walk down memory lane, part therapy session,

1435
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: part business consulting, like all of the things wrapped up

1436
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: into one. So thank you for joining us on our

1437
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: happy hour. We love you. We have to have you back.

1438
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: I would love to come back. Thank you for having me.

1439
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: You guys, I'm so excited that everybody else got to

1440
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: experience Jillian because she's from a different bachelorette era, but

1441
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: and we got to know her at the reunion and thereafter.

1442
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: But people are understanding why she was the bachelorette, why

1443
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: she's accomplished all that she has and why she's so

1444
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: freaking fantastic. She truly is, I want to say, jack

1445
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: of all trades. She's doing it all. She but like

1446
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: just her charisma and kindness, Like you can really hear

1447
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: that when you anytime I talk to her, I just

1448
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: feel like I'm floating kind of because she's just so

1449
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: positive and she's crushing it. So I mean also too,

1450
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: I want to say, if you guys don't follow her

1451
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram, check her out because her page is beautiful,

1452
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: like you can get her presets. Like just she's just

1453
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: doing it all. And to this day, Rachel, we're still

1454
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: in our bachelor group chat. We still are like, when

1455
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: can we go to Jillian's and have like another bachelorte

1456
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: reunion without the cameras, just us girls on the lake

1457
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: in Canada. So that still has to be planned because

1458
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: because that's eks happening. She lives in the middle of nowhere,

1459
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: she said, She's not like in a big city. You

1460
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: know what I love to since you mentioned the bachelortte chats,

1461
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: what I also love is we'll be talking about something,

1462
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, like gossiping, and Jillian's like, what why did

1463
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, should you're taking over the world, like right,

1464
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: like you are literally Oprah slash Mark the Steward all that.

1465
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: So it's like, we get it, we'll update you. But

1466
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: I love how she's like, where have I been? Oh?

1467
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: It never fails, whatever the news is. That's her response. Yes,

1468
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: she's so funny. But also I want to say, like,

1469
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: maybe we'll have a good place to go in November

1470
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: depending on how things turn out. So listen, there's several

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Speaker 1: there's several trips floating around in the Bachelorette group chat

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Speaker 1: to do, so one of these is gonna stick for sure.

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Speaker 1: You guys, We truly truly hope you enjoyed that interview,

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Speaker 1: and we're really gonna love going down this journey with

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Speaker 1: former bachelorettes because we want you to get to know

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Speaker 1: them the same way that we did. We want him.

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Speaker 1: We also want you to see how they paved the

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Speaker 1: way for us and are the reason that we became

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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette and they set such a great example for us.

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Speaker 1: And I also love that they're from a different error

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Speaker 1: when it doesn't seem to be as influenced by social media.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, the stakes just seem to be

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Speaker 1: just a little bit different. So anyways, we hope you

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Speaker 1: guys enjoyed this as well. We're bringing you so much

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Speaker 1: more on Bachelor Happy Hour and you know you guys,

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Speaker 1: you know the routine. We love to hear from you,

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Speaker 1: So please please continue to communicate with us on social

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Speaker 1: find us at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram. On Twitter

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Speaker 1: We started off the show, We topped off the show

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Speaker 1: with burning questions that you guys sent us. We love

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Speaker 1: to do this. We want to create this community and

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Speaker 1: we want it to be free flowing and very open

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Speaker 1: between Becca, myself and our listeners. Also, don't forget to

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Speaker 1: register to vote. Don't forget if you are out of

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Speaker 1: state like me, to request your apps and tee ballots

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Speaker 1: early the election that's coming up so soon. We are

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Speaker 1: less than sixty days here at folks. If you need

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Speaker 1: some more information on how to register, please visit www

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Speaker 1: dot rock the Vote dot org. It's so important, you guys,

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Speaker 1: that we use our voice. We cannot stress enough how

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Speaker 1: important it is to vote. It is your right, so

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Speaker 1: definitely do it once again. That address is www dot

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Speaker 1: Rock the Vote dot org for more information, don't just vote,

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