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Speaker 1: All Star Game. Hello everybody, and welcome to a live

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Speaker 1: edition of Dodgers' Territory. We are your hosts, that is

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Speaker 1: Clint Pesius. I am Alana Rizzo. Don't forget to get

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Speaker 1: the questions in. We have a special guest today, Eric

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Speaker 1: Carros Clint will be joining the show, and don't forget

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Speaker 2: Course, tubin.

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Speaker 1: As my guy likes to say, all right, before we

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Speaker 1: get to Eric Carros Clint, let's get into blue balls.

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Speaker 2: This bumps me out.

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Speaker 1: But I tell you what, when Mooki got hit, I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, I mean, right after we got the

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, my friend is the most the most

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously they both suck. Yamamoto is the bigger

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Speaker 4: tristeps been hearing it's a rotator cuff. You never want

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Speaker 4: to hear that for a pitcher. So that one, Uh,

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Speaker 4: we know this team has some pitching depth, but I

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, right you're looking at it, and again

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Speaker 1: it doesn't require surgery, so let's not get ahead of

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Speaker 1: ourselves here. But the problem is, it's like if the

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Speaker 1: in the Colorado Rocky Series. Clint, I think think in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. You can withstand Mookie being gone, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's giving shades of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 4: like to avoid the name online Trevor Bauer, but they

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Speaker 4: We've seen with this team, how this team responds in

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Speaker 4: They could withstand Mookie Betts being gone for let's say

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Speaker 4: I'll go to twenty twenty one again, a bad season

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Speaker 5: I'm going silver lining on this.

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Speaker 1: I'm going, yes, finally, if finally your dreams have come true.

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Speaker 1: You have been clamoring and calling for Miguel Rojas to

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Speaker 4: tough weekend. They take two or three from the Royals,

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Speaker 4: but tough weekend for the Dodgers. And these ugly headlines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget to like and subscribe, follow us on

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Speaker 1: Dodgers territory. This is no gloom. Things could be worse.

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Speaker 1: You could be a Giants fan.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, there you go.

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Speaker 1: There's the silver lining. As we're always reminded, we appreciate that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't see Francisco Lindor and a daughter universe. There's

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Speaker 5: Let's let's put me on the il now.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's just try to nip this in the button

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's easy to paint things with the

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Speaker 2: Of course, Muki is on there. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Of course, show hey always.

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Speaker 5: Going to be that leading vote kitter whatever league he's in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ta Oscar Hernandez should be starting. I mean he

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Taoscar Hernandez isn't representing the National

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Speaker 2: It's a popularity contest.

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Speaker 1: That's why Vladimir Guerrero Junior is the leading vote getter

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Speaker 1: Disrespect to him. He was an MVP candidate. No disrespect

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Speaker 1: He's the number one league getter or number one vote

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Speaker 1: You don't have to get out, get on your computer.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'd like to welcome in a fourteen year

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. I hate that

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Speaker 2: Broke his hand.

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Speaker 3: Well, so the crazy thing is is I I was

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Speaker 6: Mookie Betts has just been hit. Oh he's down and paid,

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Speaker 3: And you know it's look, I guess the good thing,

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Speaker 5: A couple of devastating blows there.

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Speaker 4: You've been in the clubhouse, You've been in the locker room,

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Speaker 4: How does this affect a team knowing that you're losing

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Speaker 6: These guys get back. But as far as how do

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Speaker 6: And I think that's just what's going on here in LA.

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Speaker 6: That means giving away some games during the regular season.

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Speaker 1: So be it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dodgers fans really don't like that. They expect to

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Speaker 3: Oh you know Corbyn Burns and William Domas over in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 3: Decisions don't have to be made for another month, and

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Speaker 3: where he's played some very good defensive second base.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's starting to swing the bat better.

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Speaker 3: Rojas is going to get the bulk of the reps.

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Speaker 3: Keith Hernandez is going to get some reps over there.

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Speaker 3: You know, they do have some guys d Tray Sweeney

439
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Speaker 3: down in Triple A. You know, does he eventually get

440
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Speaker 3: a look? You know, it's one of the things where

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that they revisit the situation at short

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Speaker 3: with Gavin. I wouldn't be right for Gavin quite frankly.

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Speaker 3: And again I think, you know, Miguel is going to

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Speaker 3: get the bulk of the opportunity and Keyk is going

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Speaker 3: to spell him to keep him off his legs, and

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Speaker 3: I think that probably works.

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Speaker 6: And they'll find out too.

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Speaker 3: With Mookie. He sees doctor Shin today. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he's already seen him. I haven't heard anything yet,

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Speaker 3: but he is the pre eminent hand specialist and you're

451
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Speaker 3: going to get a better idea after today. How long

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Speaker 3: this is going to be.

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Speaker 6: Is it just a break, is it something that you

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Speaker 6: know something else may need to be done as well.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: But once once you get the results after seeing doctor

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Speaker 3: Shin today, I think it will be a much clearer

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Speaker 3: picture of.

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Speaker 1: What the you just have to do, Eric, what are

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Speaker 1: realistic expectations when Mookie does come back as far as

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Speaker 1: getting his timing and rhythm back. It's not as if

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Speaker 1: he's going to come off the il and be ready

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Speaker 1: to go in MVP form like he was hitting prior

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Speaker 1: to the injury.

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Speaker 2: What's what's realistic to expect there?

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Speaker 6: So again, it just depends on what the diagnosis is.

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Speaker 3: If it is just specific, it's just a break and

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Speaker 3: you put it, you know, you immobilize it.

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Speaker 6: You know, may be down for four to six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: If there's something that you know it's complicated.

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Speaker 3: With, you get into the ligaments and tendons and all that,

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Speaker 3: and then that's something different. One of the things that's

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Speaker 3: that's interesting is that it is on the glove hand,

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Speaker 3: so initially coming back, maybe it's you know, everybody's worried

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Speaker 3: about the swing, well, the impact of the ball hitting

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Speaker 3: that glove and the you know, the pressure that the

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Speaker 3: wrist or hand has to take upon every time you're

479
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Speaker 3: catching a ball. Guaranteed discomfort can promise you there's discomfort,

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Speaker 3: So you know how long till that dissipates how long

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Speaker 3: before you overcome that.

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Speaker 6: So it's not just about the hitting.

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Speaker 3: It's also about the defense, and it's about you know,

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Speaker 3: handling yourself out in the field and catching the ball.

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Speaker 5: There. It does Alano. You want to our friends. Scott

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Speaker 5: Gearman had a.

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Speaker 1: Question he wants to know Eric if Mooky he believes

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Speaker 1: MOOKI will return to shortstop once he returns. I think

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Speaker 1: we answered that right. You don't think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be Gavin Lux. I mean, will they keep Miguil Rojas there?

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, just because of the wear and tear on

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Speaker 1: his legs. Does MOOKI take over when he comes back?

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be up to Mookie and

494
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Speaker 6: it's going to be up to what happens.

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Speaker 3: So if Miguel Rojas proves that he can play and

496
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Speaker 3: he's doing well, then it's going to be up to Mooky, like,

497
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Speaker 3: do I want to come back and you don't engage

498
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Speaker 3: at shortstop? You know, do I want to take that on?

499
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Speaker 3: Do I want to play somewhere else? It's going to

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Speaker 3: really revolve around, you know, how does Mookie physically feel?

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Speaker 6: Where is he mentally?

502
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Speaker 3: And you know, where is where are the options for

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers, and again in a month from now. We

504
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Speaker 3: have no idea where things are going to be. And

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Speaker 3: like I said, you just go back forty eight hours

506
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Speaker 3: ago and you know, the Dodgers were in a much

507
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Speaker 3: different spot.

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Speaker 6: So we know how quick things can turn very.

509
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Speaker 5: Much, you know, shifting gears just a hair.

510
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Speaker 4: We know the Dodgers have another starting pitcher option down

511
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Speaker 4: at the minor leagues. I don't know if you know

512
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Speaker 4: this kid, Jared Karros talk a little bit about, you know,

513
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Speaker 4: getting a chance to see him in you know, at

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Speaker 4: spring training and kind of his development as a as

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Speaker 4: a big league or as a.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we'll call it big league prospect. Give us the

517
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Speaker 5: insights on your boy.

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Speaker 6: So it's had an opportunity to see him obviously in

519
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Speaker 6: spring and then Dodgers use him in the Freeway Series

520
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Speaker 6: where he got the pitch against the Angels at Angels

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Speaker 6: Stadium and did very well.

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Speaker 3: Started off at Great Legs, was electric there. They moved

523
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Speaker 3: him up to Tulsa Double A. Hiccups in his first start,

524
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: no doubt, but since then he's had four starts here,

525
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Speaker 3: five starts, and it's been just as dominant as he

526
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Speaker 3: was in Great Lakes.

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Speaker 6: So things are going well for him. It's a pitching rich.

528
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Speaker 3: Organization developed pitchers as well as any organization in the game.

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Speaker 6: He's fortunate to be there, and you know, we'll see,

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Speaker 6: we'll see where the road takes him. Well.

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Speaker 1: He has a hell of a dad to learn from,

532
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Speaker 1: obviously as a position player, but just a wonderful family. Eric,

533
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Speaker 1: thank you, We appreciate you taking the time. Best of

534
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Speaker 1: luck against the Colorado Rocky. Safe travels and please no

535
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Speaker 1: more injuries. Okay, put those boys in bubble rout.

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Speaker 6: We'll do. Thanks a lot, guys, take care.

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Speaker 1: All right, Eric Carrols one of the best first basemen

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Speaker 1: in Dodger history. Always a pleasure. Time Now pint for

539
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Speaker 1: last licks maybe.

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 1: This is Peppermint Patty. We introduced you to her a

542
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Speaker 1: couple of days ago. She's a senior gal but still

543
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Speaker 1: has a lot, a lot of life left. She's in

544
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Speaker 1: a good foster home, but we're looking for a permanent home.

545
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Speaker 1: She got a clean bill of health despite being twelve

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Speaker 1: years old. She's a good girl. She's a you know,

547
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Speaker 1: just needs a quiet place to lay guys. Does it

548
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Speaker 1: take a lot of time, doesn't take a lot of energy.

549
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Speaker 1: Just wants to be your snuggle buddy. If you're interested

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Speaker 1: in Peppermint Patty, shout out to us at Guidrysguardian dot org,

551
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Speaker 1: or you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter and

552
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Speaker 1: we can get you more information. I don't know if

553
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: you saw, but the City Connects came out for this

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Speaker 1: year's twenty twenty four. Just let's just stop with the

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Speaker 1: City Connects. I'm not impressed by either one of the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers ones. I hate to say it, but I'm not.

557
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Speaker 1: Did you see the new ones?

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Speaker 5: You know what the initial ones were bad.

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Speaker 4: They kind of improved them ever so slightly when they

560
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Speaker 4: went to the white pants last year and then this,

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Speaker 4: which we saw a couple months ago. We were really

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Speaker 4: hoping it wasn't going to be. These were not going

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Speaker 4: to be you know, we're hoping it'sa like some cheap

564
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Speaker 4: Walmart knockoff. But this is what the Dodgers did, you know.

565
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Speaker 4: Shout out to the social media team for trying to

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Speaker 4: hype these uniforms. But what a terrible day to drop

567
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Speaker 4: something that nobody really wanted. And one thing I absolutely

568
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Speaker 4: detest about these uniforms is that every single digit number,

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Speaker 4: like we saw Freddie Freeman wearing a zero five. That's terrible.

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Speaker 4: That is not a baseball uniform. What are we doing here?

571
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Speaker 4: But safe to say, not very happy with the city

572
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Speaker 4: connects and the timing could have been a little bit better.

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Speaker 5: You're I just think.

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Speaker 1: You're the Los Angeles Dodgers. Okay, that that jersey to

575
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Speaker 1: me is just a little boring. It just kind of

576
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Speaker 1: looks like a like a road kind of No. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a creative bone in my body. It's

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Speaker 1: easy for me to judge. But I mean, I don't

579
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Speaker 1: know that I could create something better. But to me,

580
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Speaker 1: that there's just not enough pizzazz. You're the Dodgers, Like

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Speaker 1: there's so much richness in that city.

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Speaker 2: I do. I mean, I do like the hats. The

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Speaker 2: hats are pretty sick.

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Speaker 6: I just don't like.

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Speaker 1: I just don't like the jerseys. I just think they're

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Speaker 1: a little block I mean, I think the first ones

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Speaker 1: we had a couple of years ago were too much.

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Speaker 1: It was too it was too dark, it was too

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Speaker 1: these are just these are just too blow We need

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Speaker 1: something like in the middle. These The hats are dope.

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Speaker 1: I'm with Jose, I think the hats are pretty dope.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say trash on the rest of the stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I just think they're I think we missed the mark.

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Speaker 2: Powder blue was right there.

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Speaker 4: You remember those powder blue uniforms. It might have been

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Speaker 4: just before or maybe it was your first season covering

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Speaker 4: the team.

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Speaker 1: No, I wasn't there yet, but I remember the powder blue.

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Speaker 5: It's literally a uniform.

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Speaker 4: Fans have been begging for online for the last decade plus.

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Speaker 4: They want the powder Blues back, but I guess Dodgers

602
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Speaker 4: aren't taking They're not taking inquiries at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Does Chris makes a good point, though, Just bring back

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Speaker 1: the old school Brooklyn jerseys. Why not as the city

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Speaker 1: connect Yeah. I like the hats, which they weren't navy,

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Speaker 1: though the rest of the UNI yuck. You know.

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Speaker 4: I would other see players weekend back with the names

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Speaker 4: on the back of the jersey, a little bit of

609
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Speaker 4: fun for the players, as opposed to these. I want

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Speaker 4: to call them monstrosities because you don't want to crap

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Speaker 4: on artists. Somebody put time and effort and work into this.

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Speaker 4: But like that Chris Froza, you're saying with the fun

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Speaker 4: fetti sprinkles, the sprinkles in there.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a little rough. It's a little rough.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 1: I understand that you I was asleep, but I I

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Speaker 1: didn't know. I actually I wasn't asleep yesterday. But you

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Speaker 1: had an emergency show last night because of your reaction

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Speaker 1: to Mookie getting hit.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What the hell I was doing. But so you felt

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Speaker 1: that strongly, huh, that now I wasn't drinking straight. You

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Speaker 1: felt that strongly that you had to have a show.

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Speaker 5: We did.

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Speaker 4: No, We did an emergency show on Saturday to kind

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Speaker 4: of complained about that loss, the the Yamamoto situation. And

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Speaker 4: then this morning I dropped a video talking about MOOKI

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Speaker 4: kind of, you know, getting into more thoughts just because

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Speaker 4: I know there's gonna be there's so much talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I want to get the Mookie thoughts in the tank

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Speaker 4: out of the way early. I got another stream coming

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Speaker 4: up at four pm as a pregame show today on

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Speaker 4: All Dodgers. By the way, check it out All Dodgers

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Speaker 4: with with Clint cs Hey.

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Speaker 5: That's me.

636
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: Where we're taking fan calls. You know, I have our

637
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: voicemail hotline and people people have they've called in there.

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00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of an unease uh in the

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00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: Dodgers fan base right now. So you know another thing

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Speaker 4: people want people want you on the show. And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: we already do a show together, and.

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Speaker 2: She's a night. I'm I'd be happy to come on

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Speaker 2: your show that much. On your show, by the way,

644
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: really look it up. Well that's fine too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Justin Turner was on Foul Territory earlier

646
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: before Dodgers Territory today, So check that out. That episode

647
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: is about to drop a me It's already out there.

648
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: You can take a listen to that. And Ken on

649
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Fair Territory also gives us thoughts about everything going on

650
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Speaker 1: with the Dodgers. Clint and I will be back together

651
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: on Thursday for Dodgers Tear Toy at twelve pm Pacific

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Speaker 1: three pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 5: Bye,