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P and C Bank 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: National Association Member FDIC. 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: Well documented they give back to the senior class of 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: Worehouse and then I recently saw that the parents as 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: well of some of the students. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: Their tuitions were their student loan debt. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: Also taking care of One of the things I heard 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: you speak about, and I haven't I've never heard it 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: was broadband deserts. 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and how. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: HBCUs are disproportionately affected by having board band deserts not 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: a topic that I've heard discussed, you know, nationally or 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: even in you know, amongst communities, about how that affects 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: students long term and how it affects communities and education. 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: Can you talk about your efforts to try to combat that. Yeah, 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: it's a great question. 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: We've been talking about what is really the Fourth Industrial 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: Revolution that's occurring today. Every industry is being digitized, every 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: single one. I mean you just look in our studio 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: here and how much of this equipment is now digital 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: versus what it was even eight years ago where it 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 4: was analog, right, The capacity to edit okay, the capacity 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: to deliver streaming real time, you know, phase time around 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: the world, your program that wasn't you know something you 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: could do ten years ago, twelve years ago? 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: Okay? 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: Digitizing everything every industry. This is again, this whole fourth 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: Industrial Revolution is changing the economic landscape of this planet. 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: But yet our HBCUs eighty. 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 4: Percent of them are in broadband deserts. How are you 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: going to participate if you don't have access to the 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: tool of progress the principal tool of progress today in 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: the economy. 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: And that is a big problem. 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: And that's one that we decided to take on, and 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: I decided to take on and bring some partners to 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: take on. 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: To go get after this. We have to enable all 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: of our. 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: Citizenry to participate in this next generation of opportunity. The 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: US today, you own, our borders are basically closed, okay, 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: you know, we've got immigration laws and political conflict that 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 4: in essence, we are not importing labor anymore. And as 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: we need to grow as society, we need people. I 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: just tell people the biggest issue, the most scarce asset 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: we have on this planet today are software programmers. There's 57 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: eight billion people on the planet. There's only twenty six 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: million of us who write software. 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: For a living. 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: And it is that software that is required to digitize 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: every industry on the planet. Automotive, healthcare, demands thanking, all 62 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: of it is now requiring tools and systems that are. 63 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: Digital in nature. 64 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: But yet one of the greatest infrastructures for training people 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: historically black college and universities eighty percent of them don't 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: have broadband access where our kids can learn the tools 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,559 Speaker 4: of this craft in a way that they can participate 68 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: effectively long term. And if we don't get this right now, 69 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: eight years from now, ten years from twenty years from now, 70 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: the market of change and opportunity and transformation will have 71 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: been gone so far that we won't be able to 72 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: participate in this next way. We didn't get to participate 73 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 4: in the great economic opportunity that was America in owning 74 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 4: land okay. Many of our families were unpaid labor okay, which. 75 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: Created massive wealth. 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: And then you had gi Bill Home Set Act, Southern 77 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: Home Set Act. We didn't participate in that proportionately. We 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 4: didn't get a chance to participate in the asset accretion 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: in real estate because of redlining in those dynamics. And 80 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: so now here we are corporate America started to expand. 81 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: It has taken a while for us to get and. 82 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: We're still not even there fair share of opportunity to 83 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: participate as professionals environment and now you're going through the 84 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: fourth Industrial Revolution. If we don't participate here, it's going 85 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: to be the same dynamic. That's why it's so essential 86 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: that we equip our children and our communities with the tools, 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: and they need to insist that those tools be provided 88 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 4: and insist that they learn and train and develop ways 89 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: to participate in this economy, in this digital economy, what 90 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 4: percentage of your viewership you think is listening on some 91 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: digital device or digitalment ablement Yeah, your business relies on it, 92 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: so why shouldn't your community participate in it? And right 93 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 4: now those schools are being starved at those resources. You 94 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: can say conscious, unconscious, whatever it is, but the fact 95 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: is it is there. That's what we have to do 96 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: about it. Look, I'm going to do my part. You 97 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: guys got to continue to your part and make sure 98 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: that your viewership demands that our HBCUs have access to broadband, 99 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: every one of them, not just the big ones, every 100 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: one of them, so that our kids could learn and 101 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: participate and have the ability to now take what they 102 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: know and deliver business systems solutions into their community to 103 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: make their small and medium businesses in their community and 104 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: the education of the kids in our community more effective 105 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: than what it is today. 106 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 5: I want to just follow up on that on the 107 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 5: HPCU thing, because you got a lot of headlines when 108 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: you do more house, when you paid off the student loans. 109 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 5: But when we were in LA and I heard you 110 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: speak about that, and I realized that it wasn't It's 111 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 5: a little bit more complicated, which actually led to something else, 112 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: another initiative. So can you talk about that because people 113 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 5: just saw he paid off everybody student loans. 114 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: But that's not actually the full story, right, Yeah, So 115 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: the next thing, so what I. 116 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: Hell, Like all things, it's not as easy as you 117 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: think to pay off somebody's loans. 118 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: And everybody's like, what are you talking about? Who would 119 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: have thought? 120 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: Because yeah, whould have thought, right, Because if you pay 121 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: off somebody's loan, either you're giving them a gift orther 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: they're receiving a gift. Now they got to pay taxes 123 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: on it. So there's a burden to them or an 124 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: increasing burden to you. So you've got to actually architect 125 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: a system to do that effectively so that doesn't create 126 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: the burden in that process. What I learned is over 127 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: sixty percent of African American wealth. 128 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: Goes towards servicing student loans. 129 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: Okay, you come out, you've got sixty eighty one hundred 130 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: and twenty thousand dollars with the student loans. 131 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: Now you're paying interest on those loans. 132 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: Something happens in your family to use your job, whatever, 133 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: and now that compounds and it can be decades before 134 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: you've paid off those student loans. That inhibit you're a 135 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: ability to buy stocks, bonds, a house, invest in a business. 136 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: You see what I mean, and I was like, well, 137 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: that's just unconstable because most of the student loans are 138 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: paying back to the United States government. Yeah, African Americans 139 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: paying money back to United States government to pay our 140 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: student loans. 141 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: How y'all feel about that? That's crazy? 142 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: Crazy, Yeah, y'all should think about that, right, talk about that, right. 143 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: So then I thought, well, what's a better way to 144 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: do it? This is what's the better equilibrium system. The 145 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: better equilibrium system is to create a fund. It's called 146 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: the Student Freedom Initiative. We raise money, I put in 147 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: a bunch of money, and now these students borrow from 148 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: the fund. 149 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: Okay, let's make. 150 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: Sure it fits our condition. Our condition often is that 151 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: we often aren't paid as much as corresponding white students. 152 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: So let's make sure that the interest rate is below 153 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: parent plus loans. 154 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: At a minimum, at a minimum and every now and 155 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: you have life interruptions. 156 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, if there's a life interruption, you know, parent ailing, 157 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: we've got to go back take care of that parent. 158 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: Then we can actually stop those payments in that period 159 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: of time. Parent plus now you're gonna pay whether you 160 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 4: work it or not. And then compounds and all that, 161 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 4: so you can stop it during that period of time. 162 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: And if you decide to go work in a community 163 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: to be a teacher like you were, right, okay, and 164 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: you're making below a certain amount, but you're doing good 165 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: for the community. You do that for twenty years and 166 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: that's forgiven. But rather than pay that money back to 167 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: the government, it pays back into the fund and then 168 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: that fund can relend that capital and that's. 169 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: A virtuous cycle. Okay. 170 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: So that's a student Freadom initiative, is okay, And so 171 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: that our students can borrow from this fund and they 172 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: pay back into that fund. 173 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: They can be reborrowed. 174 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 4: So now you're taking care of your own community through 175 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: your work in that regard, that's what it is. 176 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: And the money goes back to the next generation of students, right, 177 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: my graduates from my school being false. 178 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 3: Bad drop drop mic drop bagdrop earners. 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