1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The black Market is an initiative created by eighty five 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Self Media to highlight, amplified and showcase leaders, entrepreneurs, and 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: educators from our community. The show tapes monthly at our 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: studio in Atlanta, Georgia, to submit you in your organization 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: for a consideration called eighty five Self Show dot com 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Fact Slash black Market. We're starting my mother fucking clock 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: putting numbers on the clock. I'm putting numbers on the 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: little footing clock. Numbers on the clock. Clocks on the numbers. 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hot summer. You dance, You gotta 10 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: dance with your shoes if your shoot this journey. Come 11 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: home early and had an old chicken name Shirley. Her 12 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: hair was kind of showing, kind of currently smoothie rubbing 13 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: on her legs. Not a booty, Mike, go dancing. There's 14 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: no chance in no road lancing, man, Hold up, hit 15 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: the brakes. Your meats rat skates said, hold on, hit 16 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: the brakes, you'll beat this dry states that's what she do. 17 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: She doesn't have a car, she doesn't have a towel. Yeah, 18 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: that's just how we're living over here. Man. I'm talking 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: about real black I'm talking about like at your mama house, 20 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: that grease that sit on the stove all the time. 21 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: That's how black we are. I'm talking about. I'm talking 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: about that Christmas when you know you ain't getting ship 23 00:01:52,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: let right, I'm talking about Hm, you know whooping at 24 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: the barbershop? Black? You're black? It was about to be Cat, 25 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: bring me my change back Black. Yeah, this ship right here, 26 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: this ship is for all the people who get to 27 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: work before your partners and clock them into Yeah. This 28 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: is supposed to be the summer that Hunting came back out. Cat. 29 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: You know that right now, this song was supposed to 30 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: be the summer Hunting was supposed to make his comeback. 31 00:02:54,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard. We've got to make 32 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: some ship happen, y'all almost ready. I can tell you 33 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: how your naming them to the trap spot traps. I 34 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: don't know if you heard. I don't know if you know. 35 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're privy to the information. But 36 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: right now the black market is open. Man. We got 37 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: we got somebody real dope and cool and hit with us. Man. 38 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just to throw a few 39 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: titles out, you know, it's digital media content creator you know, 40 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: very well established journalists, writer, documentary filmmaker, cool mans nigger 41 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: who always on the scene. He always know what's going on. 42 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: I see the nigg on Twitter talking ship all the time. 43 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: He'd be like, I like here like my almost ghetto 44 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: TWEE did some political ship that was like what this 45 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: nick going in? Hey, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the trap, 46 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: my man tour and walk a how you do good 47 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: my can good man? Welcome to the trap once again? Formerly, 48 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: how you been I've been good man? Now in the world, 49 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: starting to open up, you know, and getting my gut 50 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: here and breathe a little bit more. What you've been 51 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: up to? Oh man? Um really just getting back into 52 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: um doing my journalism again. I had to do a 53 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: lot of things remotely, and I was getting on my nerves. 54 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: And now I can go out actually see people face 55 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: to face. I'm doing that again. That's good. Yeah, And 56 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: what type of journalism you've been up to doing this 57 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: this pandemic doing a lot of interviews. Um. I managed 58 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: to connect with some people who have been um rocking 59 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: with the things I do, and so I set up 60 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: since I couldn't go out there do interviews anymore, I 61 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: set up a context media website channel and YouTube channel, 62 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: so I just started doing zooms and talking to people 63 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: about some of the things that we were cared about. Bro, 64 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: black list out here be catching hell well sell you 65 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: a lot of press conference were you know the old president, 66 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: he just ignored the black lady questions most of the time. Yeah, 67 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: but you know what, you gotta expect that from somebody 68 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: like that. I think what people have to really pay 69 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: attention to is being Um. Where are people who pretend 70 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: to be your friend and when in vite you win 71 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: and still don't ask you a question but that smile 72 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: at you? Damn bro. I never even knew that black 73 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: journalism was that hard. Maybe all the black journalists should 74 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: just focus on investigative reports. Then no, you know you 75 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: got you got black journalists in every different genre of journalism. 76 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: It's just that the ones that tend to get more 77 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: shine are the ones who do more sensationalism. Like you know, 78 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: celebrity meeting is always gonna sell. You're never gonna get 79 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: tired of that shit. I did work. I'm tired of it. 80 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't give a ship people regularly as hell if 81 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: you look at it. Yeah, but you know, most people 82 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: like that stuff because you know, it's sensational and it's 83 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: it's just like watching reality TV, you know that stuff 84 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: to eat it up. Yeah, and there's a place for it, 85 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: but it's so problem that you can't really move anywhere 86 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: else on that. That's real. I mean, I guess there's 87 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people who thrive up the celebrity gossip 88 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: and ship, whether it's real or fake. I guess it's 89 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: just the illusion of somebodther living a better life than 90 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: you that makes them feed into that ship. Well, you know, 91 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: it's an escape for some people. And you know, it's 92 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with going on and taking a look at 93 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: what's going on with somebody for a while, you know, 94 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes, and they're moving on to 95 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: something else. But because there's so much of it and 96 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: they keep pumping that stuff out on a daily basis, 97 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: seven you can't. You don't ruin for nothing else. I mean, 98 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: there is, but they don't want to do that. Yeah, man, 99 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: you got your your work feeding in the book about 100 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: cyber bullying. Mhmm. You think that's really I think it's 101 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: real to the point where you gotta understand there's a 102 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: lot of there's a whole generation that grew up online 103 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: and they don't know anything else. And there's a lot 104 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: of people who don't really have any sort of outside 105 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: stimulus outside of being online all the time. Literally, you 106 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: go outside, you see people all that, You see kids 107 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: and strollers like doing this. They don't know anything else. 108 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: So if your world is in there and all of 109 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: a sudden you say something to somebody doesn't like and 110 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: then they create this mob that attack you, then you stop. 111 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: A bullying is real at that point. Now, if you're 112 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: eighteen up, yeah, I don't really believe in it that much. 113 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: You can always turn them, you can always cut your 114 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: phone off. I think I've been bulleted by every demographic 115 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: of people out there on social media. I think I 116 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: probably have individually upset accept the Indigenous people. They let 117 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: everything slade. You know what, if you have any kind 118 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: of presence on social media, anything you say is gonna 119 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: make somebody mad at some point, I know. So you 120 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: can either end up being so wishing washing that you 121 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: don't stand on anything, or you can just be who 122 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: you want to, just keep it moving and they find 123 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: something that's to be mad about in the day, or 124 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: so oh it's crazy people really think that you give 125 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: a funk about their pain is some people, do, you know. 126 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, some people are so tied into 127 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: social media and they're so tied end to being in 128 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: the cyber world, and they really do believe it. Some 129 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: people don't, but they pretend that they do because it 130 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: looks good, just like some people pretend to care about 131 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: certain causes and they really don't. You know. Yeah, I 132 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: ain't wanted them people. There's a lot of ships in 133 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: this world that needs saving. But I think we got 134 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: to save the black people first. You know, that's a 135 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: controversial opinion, depend on who you ask. Don't give a fuck. 136 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: These people ain't gonna do that. We gotta say the 137 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: black people, man, Black people are fucking I don't even 138 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: know what the county is right now. I know it's 139 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: a lot of us left, but leave us alone. We 140 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: got enough ship to worry about. We gotta save us, man. 141 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: Everybody else save themselves. They keep saying that that's the 142 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: way to go. So we're just go ahead to save ourselves. 143 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: But you know what, you go to every other demographic. 144 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: Everybody else knows that except us. Yeah, we're supposed to 145 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: get everybody's life or serving. We're supposed to come save 146 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: everybody else, but when it's time for us to get something, 147 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: we get nothing. Yeah, we need some ship too, You 148 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: need a lot, Yeah, just like you know, like some 149 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: basic civil human rights. You know, we still just need 150 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: we go out. We probably got about thirty or for 151 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: the most civil rights we gotta get. Then we can 152 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: start like really enjoying some of this ship. And they 153 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: cheated us out a lot of them. Yeah, well, America's 154 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: gonna always be American. That's not gonna change. I feel yeah, 155 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: I feel you. But at some point some ship gonna change. 156 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: I was just old enough to see it. That's the 157 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: cold ship. I don't know. You know, there's no way, 158 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: there's no way to determine that. You know, there's people, 159 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, years ago in the field who thought they 160 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: would never get any further than that, you know what 161 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean. They were fighting, they would run away, but 162 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: they only trying to run away for their own freedom 163 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: and try to take care of their individual needs. They 164 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: never thought that they sees people who are black lawyers 165 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: and black daughters, or you know, black politicians, or black 166 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: people who ran corporations, you know what I mean. You 167 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: may not see them maybe and think we got enough 168 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: of them. Yet some of them people are so disappointed 169 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: because they get on mean, you'd be like, oh, they're 170 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: those kind of black people, and so it's kind of 171 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: like they're not even that. There's a lot of misrepresentation 172 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: out there. Just I don't think we should just have 173 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: to accept people just because of like on our behalf, 174 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: just because of that. If they don't have my interests, 175 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, on the forefront, then they just they're just 176 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: as bad as the mothers he's trying to replace. We've 177 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: got a real bad habit of doing that though. We 178 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: get caught up in the idea of representation and because 179 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: somebody's black that they and they look like us, that 180 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: they're going to take care of this book. I think 181 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: we just have been having a whole lot of the 182 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: wrong kind of black people put into positions that we 183 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: wanted to see real black people there. Well, if you're 184 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: trying to be a real black person, you're not gonna 185 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: get that far unless you have who you war until 186 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: you get into a position where you can do what 187 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: you want to do exactly. Man. But it's a certain 188 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: level of realness they've got to be in anybody in 189 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: any profession. You just can't go along and get along 190 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: with everything that's not health. They though, that doesn't that 191 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: doesn't that's not progress. If you just accept anything and 192 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: let anything be, then what are you doing take care 193 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: of the waters? Well, I mean that's you know, that's 194 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. People got to get out of this 195 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: idea just because somebody looks like you're there for you, 196 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? A lot of people say 197 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: everything that people say, stuff that sounds good, and they 198 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: say things that they think people want to hear, but 199 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: they're out for the bottom line. It's just that's that's it, 200 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: and that's the corporation of how most of this ship works. 201 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: You gotta look out for that bottom line journalism and 202 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: some of the worst than that. M hmm, Like what 203 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: are some of the things that you have to be 204 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,239 Speaker 1: You have the experience on that side of the journalism. 205 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: They know that the public may not be privy to all. Right, Um, 206 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: I started out in journalist and working for mainstream news. 207 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: I work for Hupton posts, I work for a couple 208 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: of the mainstream allets. And what is that experience like? 209 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: Because sometimes hubbings and post their posts some great ship 210 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: and then sometimes you'd be like, who the funk let 211 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: this come out? You was letting this ship come out, 212 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: but you know exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes that 213 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: ship would be so left like who the fuck? Okay 214 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: this and then it's incredible news place too is like 215 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: yeah ship, Huffing and Post, y'all meant that one. Well, 216 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what my story my experience was. I 217 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: started writing for Huffing and Post right about the time 218 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: when um, Mike Brown got killed and ferguson. So the 219 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: beat I was on was like, um, basically it feel 220 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, to race beat. It was 221 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: like because you know, like every other week, somebody was 222 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: getting killed, you know, and there was a story, and 223 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: there was a protest and there was uprising. So I 224 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: was on a lot of those stories. While that was 225 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: a hot story, nobody was a bottom with me that much. 226 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: But then once you started seeing those court cases start 227 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: coming the past, I wanted to start trying to cover those, 228 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: and that's when I started getting pushed back because it 229 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: was like, it wasn't a hot story to talk about 230 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: what was going on in the courts. It was a 231 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: hot story to go out there with a camera and 232 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: shoot people, throwing stuff in the police and quote unot 233 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: setting stuff on fire and um doing all this and 234 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: creating damage. They love that, but nobody really wants to 235 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: talk about what happens after that. You know, how cops 236 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: get off after they basically can kill somebody in the 237 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: street and walk out with their gun and getting not 238 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: guilty verdicts. They don't want to talk about that. So 239 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: I had a lot of pushback with editors for that 240 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: sort of thing. That and I had to deal with 241 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of editors who weren't really from the culture 242 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: who were trying to tell me how to talk about 243 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: black people, like what was this? What were some of 244 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: their pointers who? Um, there was one time I wanted 245 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: to um go into the city. I'm not gonna say 246 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: the city, but there was. There were some brothers in 247 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: the city who had been doing the neighborhood watch. A 248 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: lot of them were like fresh out of prison, a 249 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: lot of them are ex gang members. Um. They didn't 250 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: have any pedigrees, they weren't from college and all the stuff. 251 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: They were the street casts. But they would make sure 252 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: that these kids got to school and keep out of light, 253 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: um from the drift. The dealers in the hustle, knew 254 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: not messing with them because these dudes are on the street. 255 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to interview them. They told me straight up, 256 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: there wasn't the interesting story. Basically told me nobody wants 257 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: to hear that. Really, what well, these gas now we 258 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: got to get them on the show. That's interesting. Yeah, 259 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: But it's like, damns, But what's the what is the 260 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: goal of mainstream media and news? From your experience, knowing 261 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: that they think that that type of ship is not important. 262 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: What is important? Um ratings, That's what they care about. Ratings, 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: however way they can get them. Even the news, especially 264 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: in news, news are what you want to call mainstream 265 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: news are hard news is a loss leader from most corporations. 266 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna understand, like most news that you get comes 267 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: from maybe two, three, maybe four corporations. Right now in 268 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: the United States, four major corporations control the news that 269 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: you get. So they're concerned about turning over money for 270 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: their shareholders, and they're concerned about getting ratings and whatever. 271 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: They don't really care. I mean, there's a certain level 272 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: of fact checking that has to go on, but they're 273 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: more concerned about getting to a story first and getting 274 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: it right, that's just the truth. If they can tell, 275 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: they can see, they can get paid from a story 276 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: about some they're falling out in the street, they'll sell that. 277 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: And they didn't get paid from somebody throwing a rock 278 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: through building. They'll sell all that. Okay, So what is 279 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: it really then? It's entertainment. So all the people who 280 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: are watching the news who think they're getting legit information, 281 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: it's just simply being entertained. Yeah, for the most part, 282 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: there's exceptions, but for the most part, you're just looking 283 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: at the same thing running over and over and over 284 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: on the loop. Uh. And then when you get into 285 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: black people and how people were put on black people, 286 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: that's a whole another animal, like how do they report 287 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: on black people or lack there they were put on 288 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: black people like the circus. Basically if something like the circus, Yeah, 289 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: you ever noticed, like every time something happens on the 290 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: block or there's a story that happens in the neighborhood 291 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: is not upper middle class. They found the wildest person 292 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: they can find on the street, and they put they 293 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: put the camera in front of them and at them talk. Yeah, 294 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, not to say that person 295 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have a valid point. But you know, they get 296 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: somebody who's going at the food so they can gonna viral, 297 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: and they just trying to find those people because though 298 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a good thing and a bad thing. 299 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: The bad thing is is embarrassing. The good thing is 300 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: these people tell you exactly what the funk happened. I 301 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: want yeah, And then up the gun came out and 302 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: came out of you know, the color run from me. 303 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: I've every god, God came out. Now that's embarrassed in this. 304 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: But that man told you everything that happened in that 305 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: bitch and when the detail left out, I mean, sometimes 306 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: that's funny. Remember the girl the guy who called rescue 307 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: the girls around the house a couple of years ago. 308 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's some of the best. That's one of 309 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: the best ship that has ever happened. You've seen people 310 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: love that did giveaway. The golden part of that interview 311 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: was when that man said, yeah, just man, where is 312 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: that footage Charles Rams over there with the schlick bang 313 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: big real man, Come on, you drop the cigarett out 314 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: of there one time to pick it up. Come on, man, 315 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: come on. He rescued the hell out of them now 316 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: he still ain't get everything he was supposed to get 317 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. And see that's the other part of 318 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: the two. When black people who moved like that get 319 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: to not the riding, they're not able to capitalize on 320 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: stuff like the way somebody who's white or whatever does 321 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: that because you see white people like in the food too, 322 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: and they're walk in the record, they're walking the contracts, 323 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: they're walking too, endorsement deals. I wonder what Charles Rams 324 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: have got The name is more cigarettes. Well, I don't know. 325 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I know he really get the real you know, the 326 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: real like respect that he deserved. He's people's lives right here. 327 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: I have a funny the interview is like he still 328 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: did a great thing. And then like I said, like 329 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: you said, it was here one day, going the next. Yeah. 330 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: So that's why I moved out of mainstream meeting and 331 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: started doing my own thing because I felt like, you know, 332 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: after being on the ground and watch our people able 333 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: to tell stories, I'm like, you know what, the technologist here, 334 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: I can do this myself. I don't really need anybody 335 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: to help me with this, and I can say what 336 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I want to say. That's where that's where technology is 337 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: is pushing everybody to go independent, Like, have you found 338 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: more success on your own terms as opposed to going 339 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: in and having to try to figure out what these 340 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: people in the move for the day? Well, yeah, in 341 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: a way, I mean I found success whereas I have 342 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: freedom to be able to say what I want to say, 343 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: and I can fact check it myself, and I can 344 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: put it out and I don't have to go through 345 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot of filters. But it's hard to do that 346 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: by yourself because you don't have to you're not plugged 347 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: into the apparatus were like, you know, I can toss CNN, 348 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: or I can call um and missing me and say hey, 349 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: put this out. Put this out. So what kind of 350 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: advice are you giving right now to the young, up 351 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: and coming black journalists. Um M, I don't normally give advice, 352 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: but what I would say is everybody has a story, 353 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: and everybody's stories valid, and you have a right to 354 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: tell that story. And don't let anybody who's not in 355 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: your culture, who doesn't know you this way you're from 356 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: telling that story. I mean, everybody has When everybody has 357 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: a right to, you don't have to. You have fifteen 358 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: degrees to be able to tell somebody stories and somebody 359 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: trust you and he's sit down with you. That's all 360 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: you really need. As long as you don't break that, 361 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: you're good kind of kind of literature with your point 362 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: in Two books that may help. UM. One book that 363 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a huge fan of and it's helped me 364 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: out is UM, Gordon Parks's autobiography, Goring Parks. Some dope man. 365 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: Gordon Parks was doing stuff that, Um, it's wild because 366 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: some of the ground he was breaking in the fortists 367 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: in the in the nineteen third is being one of 368 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: the few black photographers and generalists working in mainstream media. 369 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: His photography is so dope. Just like even without the 370 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: context of you know, his writing. It's just got all 371 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: these books in should you can just see where images? Yeah, 372 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: and he was really he was really instrumental. And me 373 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: can teach me how about the power of the image? 374 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: You know, you can you can talk and you can write, 375 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: but that's only going to catch a certain amount of people. 376 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: If you have video and you have technology married together 377 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: and you put these images together and you can show 378 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: people what's really going on, that's, um, that's extremely powerful 379 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: and that says more than just what you can write. 380 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well ship man, let them know where they 381 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: can find you. What we can what we can get 382 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: some links to some of your print media and things 383 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: of that nature. Um, you can find me at the 384 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: site context Media group. That's the website. All my social 385 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: media is context Media and you can find me Torn 386 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Walker mostly on Twitter. I'm on that way more than 387 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: I need to be. But you see everything, Yeah, I 388 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: see a lot, say a lot to me, but better 389 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: for worse. That's where you can find my stuff. That's 390 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: what's up. Anything you want to live with Before we 391 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: wrap it up. You got a question after the last selection, 392 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: and like the way that transpired, where the ethical code 393 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: Black journal journalists gotta stop a lot of people not 394 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna like this, but journal's gotta stop being groupings and 395 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: start being journalists again. There's too much. There's too much 396 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: cheerleading on both sides. If you're there to get the story, 397 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: don't go there to get the story. And I press 398 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: these people. A lot of these people, I know what 399 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about, a lot of these people ran on 400 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm black, ski weed and all this type of stuff. 401 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: If you're gonna go and beating these people's face, you 402 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: need to hit them a hard questions that don't take 403 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: selfish be a journalist. I'm probably not gonna get invited 404 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: to the White House, Donna, now, but I mean you are. 405 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: They got a quota. All Right, you're gonna be in there. Man. 406 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: Don't worry about that White House dinner. You're gonna be 407 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: straight man. Hey, the black market is open, touring Walker. Hey, 408 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: you crass s show, we're out of here. Get your 409 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: journalism game together. GROUPUS, Group bail. My food is here.