00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: You gotta come to be empty. And I said, no, guest, your presence is presents enough. 00:00:31 Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 1: To surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 4: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineker. I hope you're doing fine. I hope you're doing well. I hope you're not in a rush to get anywhere, or chasing up for a bus or anything like that. That would be terrible. Didn't get an enormous amount of sleep last night. I woke up with a numb leg, and you know how that goes, the terror that you're going to have to have it amputated in the morning. But everything's fine now. I'm drinking a little bit of coffee. I'm relaxed, I've got my slippers on, and I'm so I mean, I'm just so happy about today's guest. Just a wonderful beam of light. Jen DeAngelo. Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:33 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here. Jen. 00:01:36 Speaker 4: How are you you look? You're I mean, right before we got into this, I mentioned that you've got this beautiful window with that tree outside it, so it's very a pleasant scene to look on. 00:01:46 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. This is a new window. Before we started, and. 00:01:52 Speaker 4: Then I demanded that you keep the rest to yourself until we began recording, because this is also a window podcast. 00:02:00 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm glad that I can finally shed some light on the window issue that you've been meaning to discuss for many episodes. 00:02:07 Speaker 4: So, oh yeah, this is it's all been building up to this. I promised listeners episode one that we would get into window installation, and we finally made it here. After this episode, there will be nothing left to look forward to. So now, when you say it's a new window, does that mean that wall was formerly just a wall and then they had to cut a hole in it? Or was it a bad window and this is now a good window? 00:02:30 Speaker 2: There were two bad windows that have been replaced by one large good window. 00:02:35 Speaker 4: Oh and probably energy efficient. 00:02:38 Speaker 2: Yes. Previously the windows were very old single pane windows, so it was like having no windows at all. The sun would come straight through them and burn us. 00:02:50 Speaker 4: Would it actually burn you? 00:02:52 Speaker 2: Yes, it was a thing. We've lived in this after five years and the entire time we've known we've needed to get any windows, and we finally did it ripe of quarantine. 00:03:04 Speaker 4: So great timing, beautiful. 00:03:07 Speaker 2: But yes, it used to be a thing that you could not sit in our living room from about four o'clock until the sunset. 00:03:15 Speaker 4: No, that's where you would have just come to make your dinner. Just place it in front of the windows and you're ready for dinner. 00:03:22 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, so in that sense it was energy efficient. 00:03:27 Speaker 4: What was the final straw? Was it just we're tired of burning or we've got to get in there between the dusk hours. 00:03:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was, we were tired of burning. There was last summer, I think there was like a really bad heat wave and it was horrible. We were like, we really should make it so that we have at least minimal insulation that we can combat this. 00:03:53 Speaker 5: Wow. 00:03:54 Speaker 4: And was there a lot of research into the windows or was it just you contact one eight hundred windows or w UW dot windows dot net and they just tell you wish one to get. 00:04:04 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, I think www dot windows dot net is a great business idea because to my knowledge that doesn't really exist. 00:04:12 Speaker 4: I'm an early investor. 00:04:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad we could come to a business agreement. 00:04:18 Speaker 4: I wonder what Windows dot Net leads to. I hope I'm not promoting some sort of you know, dark web website that leads you into some sort of horrible black market or something. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is how all your listeners become radicalized. Windows dot net is a deep, dark secret. 00:04:39 Speaker 4: I finally, Forfield Windows dot net, I have to imagine that maybe that was purchased early on by Microsoft. But you can't. You can never tell. And does anybody have a dot net anymore? That's the real question. 00:04:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, now you can have dot anything. 00:04:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you wanted to, you know, have a dot net Windows dot net for example, or Breacher dot net. I don't know if that's taken, but I'll obviously be looking after the podcast. 00:05:07 Speaker 2: Do you own any domains for your name? 00:05:11 Speaker 4: I don't. I recently looked into it, and because I have an s corp and the name of it, I actually don't know if I should reveal it because I don't want someone snatching up the domain name. 00:05:25 Speaker 5: But it's oh, jesuz, Windows, its Windows. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: It's Microsoft Windows ninety five dot com. No, it's a the name of a defunct company that went out of business in about two thousand and eight. And when I formed this corporation, I just you know, they ask you for names, and I threw the name out to whoever did this for me, and thinking there's no way that I'm going to get it. And now I'm the president of this company, I can't I'm going to reveal it. It's Mervin's. I'm the president of Mervyn's ink now, and so I've been trying to get into the domain name game. And if somebody buys it before me, you know what, good for you? I can't tell anyone what. 00:06:12 Speaker 2: News I now am finally. 00:06:16 Speaker 4: The leader of Mervyns. Are you familiar with Mervins? No, Mervins is a or was a department store, kind of along the lines of a J. C. Penny or a Cole's, but it was more of a where did you grow up? 00:06:31 Speaker 2: Right outside Philadelphia? 00:06:32 Speaker 4: Okay, So this was Mervyn's was largely Midwest West Coast. I think they had a few locations in the on the East Coast, but for the most part they stuck it out here. Then eventually they rebranded as Mervin's California. I think as an attempt to make it cool or not depressing, and it ultimately didn't work, and I think that maybe Target swallowed them up. But now so it's reemerging. Murvn's is now mine, and I hope that you're reclaiming. I hope that they don't come after me. I mean, I don't even know who would come after me at this point. The company went out of business twelve years ago. 00:07:13 Speaker 2: But I like the idea of just slapping California on something to make it cool, right in some ways, that's what I did. I moved to California and made that my personality. 00:07:23 Speaker 4: You became Jen California. Yes, exactly, I'm now Bridger California. We're sunny, we're beachy, we're you know, hitting the surf. Is that what you say? 00:07:36 Speaker 2: We're surf something? 00:07:37 Speaker 4: For sure, we're getting sunburned in our own homes and that sort of thing. Do you have a corporation? 00:07:43 Speaker 2: So I had to incorporate very quickly. And I had always wanted it to be a skeleton because I was thinking that if I ever have a title card, it'll be a skeleton walking across the screen. And then he trips and falls and his bones Skeleton. 00:08:00 Speaker 4: Oh I love that. Titles car kind of like those old like Disney cartoons where the skeletons are playing xylophones and yeah, sort of thing. Oh I love that. 00:08:08 Speaker 2: But I'm sure I'm just a fan of well yeah, I mean, I'm just a fan of skeleton humor in general also, So that was important to me. But when I told when I gave the accountant like a list of names, I was like, I'm interested in skeleton, and he went what I immediately backed off the slightest questioning. I was like, oh, is it weird? 00:08:32 Speaker 4: What exactly? Fun? Accountant? 00:08:34 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's very unfun and we had a lot of issues he and I. He's no longer right good. 00:08:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I mean, I think if I ever have a title card and this will be some really murky legal territory, the dream would be the Mervin's logo. So it just looks like the the whatever television show or movie was produced by this discount department store, and it'll just whatever my work is, no, and don't everything will just suddenly feel like it was some sort of sponsored content by Mervin's or Mervyn's California. But you never know, and I mean, there's a good chance my career falls apart way before I get a title card, so you know, yeah, or maybe MURVNS comes crawling out of the grave and sues me into oblivion after this podcast. Have you had a limbgo numb in the middle of the night. 00:09:24 Speaker 2: Actually last week I woke up slightly different, but I woke up with a very bad elbow pain. Oh yeah, but it was because well I hate to brag, but I've been working out and I think my elbow is just a little bit sore from having done just a bunch of bicep curls with a five pound free. 00:09:49 Speaker 4: Way that'll do it. That is that what's known as tennis elbow. 00:09:56 Speaker 2: So I did some early morning googling find out what that was, and I thought that it might be tennis elbow. But tennis elbow apparently takes a long time to heal, and this went away in a matter of days, So I think it was. 00:10:08 Speaker 4: Just your elbow was just your it's jacked now and so it was just kind of building out. You've got these incredible Also. 00:10:17 Speaker 2: I was alarmed because it was just one elbow, and I thought if it was because of the way it would be both right, and I couldn't really straighten it, and so then I was talking to my husband and I was like, and look, I can straighten this one. And then when I straightened my other one, that one started to hurt. So I was like, well, they just both hurt. 00:10:33 Speaker 4: Now, Well, I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm glad you're working out. I mean, I don't mean to brag, but I think my pain is also from working out. I think we're all trying to work out at home with no guidance or anything, and we're just slowly destroying our body. 00:10:48 Speaker 2: So we're just hurting ourselves. What kind of workout have you been doing? 00:10:51 Speaker 4: I've well, I've already Actually I'm not just going to become a shield for this product, because I've talked about this on the podcast before. But it's a video game called a Ring Fit Adventure, which is it's like a yoga ring that you attach your video game control too, and you also like strap a thing around your leg that you put another video game control into, and then it like leads you through these incredible exercises. I don't know what to tell people at work. I mean, it's worked up until the point that I thought I'd have to have my leg amputated. But you know, you're like you're squeezing this ring, you're doing squats, you're running in place, or doing putting your knees high in the air, and it's incredible and it's very Uh, it doesn't quite feel like working out. I mean, it's still well exhausting and you're sweating and stuff, but you're not like in agony. So but now it's led me down this path where I'm afraid for my life. Let's just be honest. I could be as comes later, right, Yeah, but I am because I have nothing else to do with my time. I'm working out and that sort of thing. What are you doing with your time? 00:12:11 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I'm also playing some video games. I mean Animal Crossing of course, come off of that. There's this game called Katamari Domic dom. Yeah. I guess it's an old game, but I just have is new to me. 00:12:35 Speaker 4: It's delightful. You just you're just essentially rolling a little ball around that gets bigger and bigger as it clicks objects. 00:12:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just cleaning up a whole little world by sticking it to your ball. It's so great. It's so soothing. 00:12:50 Speaker 4: Yes, and it's like the kind of the king that you have to report to, who's. 00:12:54 Speaker 2: He's always very disinterested in you. He's never. 00:13:00 Speaker 4: Wonderful character. I have a postcard of that video game on my refrigerator, which I've had since probably two thousand and five. Oh wow, So it's a very valuable postcard if anyone. 00:13:11 Speaker 2: Brings refrigerator the postcard. 00:13:12 Speaker 4: This refrigerator is gorgeous. It was begrudgingly purchased by my landlord when I said I wouldn't move in with that a refrigerator, so they bought some. This refrigerator probably cost one hundred and fifty dollars and it is. It's literally it sounds like a little monkeys and they're grinding away. At this point, it's on its last legs. So if you come into my apartment, do not steal the fridge, but look at the postcard. That might be worth something. I don't know what to tell you. Okay, so you're playing Katamari. I think it's domasy or damnasy, damacy. 00:13:51 Speaker 2: Whatever that means to you. 00:13:53 Speaker 4: So is this occupying a lot of your time? 00:13:55 Speaker 2: Any sort of I am also, you know, writing than I can and baking a little bit. I've been baking. 00:14:05 Speaker 4: What are you baking? 00:14:07 Speaker 2: I have baked scones a couple of times. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: Oh, just plain scones, cranberry? What what are we talking about here? 00:14:14 Speaker 2: I did some plain some blueberry. 00:14:16 Speaker 4: Oh delicious. 00:14:17 Speaker 2: Yeah. But it was a real chain of events because I I basically I made a pavlova. 00:14:23 Speaker 4: Okay, I just nodded and acted like I hurt the word, but I can't pick. I cannot connect the word to an image, So please tell me what this is. 00:14:32 Speaker 2: I was also, I was. I was the same way. I was like, I think I know what a pavlova is, and then when I saw what it was, I was like, what it's Uh, it's a merangue. It's essentially like a merengue pie crust, oh, with whipped cream and then berries. 00:14:52 Speaker 4: Oh that sounds lovely. 00:14:54 Speaker 2: It's so good. And so I made one of those, and so it says it's meringue. You only need egg wife, right, So then I had leftover egg yolks and then you can use those to make lemon curd. So I did that and then I was like, well, now that I have lemon curd, I need something to put them on, so I'll bake us gune. So that's sort of how I've. 00:15:14 Speaker 4: Been chain reaction, you said off. Yeah, usually if I have left over things, they just go to waste. They get left in the back of the fridge until they're done and then but you've got like three items out of all of this thing. 00:15:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, the courses guns caused a tsunami and. 00:15:36 Speaker 4: You've wiped out a continent at this point, yes, exactly, thousands and thousands have lost their lives. Let's hope that this doesn't this episode doesn't air the day of a giant Oh God, yes, which you know feels right in line with this year. So who knows. We're looking at mid September for this episode. I don't know if that tsunami season or not. But you never know, yeh, can't You never know. Unfortunately, I feel like everything that's said on this podcast eventually becomes true. So there may be some destruction on Jen d'angela's hands. 00:16:11 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, sorry everybody. I guess that's all I can say. I just wanted to make a joke. 00:16:17 Speaker 4: I have to ask, is there any relation to the Golden State Killer Jose. I've been watching the documentary obviously his name is Joseph di'angelo. You obviously haven't. He doesn't have the apostrophe, so there's a chance you may have, you know, a family changed to avoid the negative press. Is that what's going on here. 00:16:41 Speaker 2: Uncle Joe? I when so, I had read Michelle mcmahir's book, right, And yes, I was also just very scared by the Golden State Killer in general, and so yeah, when I caught him, it was so exciting. He was like, oh, they finally found him. And then when I saw his name, I truly was just like, you've got to be kidding me. There's no other I feel like D'Angelo rarely comes up. It's not a very particularly common last name, but yeah, we at least have the different spelling. 00:17:25 Speaker 4: Right, different spelling. Was there any discussion within the family like can you believe this? Or have you all just shied away from this horrible truth? 00:17:36 Speaker 2: Yes, we're all just running away from facing the reality that he is somehow related to us distantly or otherwise. 00:17:46 Speaker 4: D'Angelo was obviously an Italian last name. Yes, are you a strong Italian family or is it? Would you just you know, it's the distant relatives. It's very distant, which is very sad for me. 00:17:58 Speaker 2: My so, my dad's grandparents both came from Italy, and they came over when they were teenagers, and then they lived in Philadelphia, and then my dad's dad just became super waspy. 00:18:20 Speaker 4: The Italians. 00:18:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he would like bring us Canoli's. Oh, but that was sort of the extent of the Italian heritage. 00:18:30 Speaker 4: Are you are you working to embrace your Italian heritage or is this podcast going to be awakening for you? 00:18:37 Speaker 2: If anything, this podcast is encouraging me to turn away from it, to shun it. Forever, I have been working to embrace it. I really want to go. My great grandfathers from Bari, which is southern Italy, and I really want to go there. It looks very pretty. Yeah, we're allowed to travel again. 00:18:59 Speaker 4: Yes Bari. Weiss not to mention. Not to bring up Old Barry on this podcast. Another person no one wants to be associated with. I don't know. I'm bringing. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: Fairy Wise and Josep DiAngelo. Those two people made me who I. 00:19:19 Speaker 4: Am, match made in Heaven. I'm so sorry I'm bringing up some negative names on this podcast, and I'm just gonna We're gonna move on. Because Jen, there is something we have to talk about. Yesterday you text me and you said, Bridger, where do you live in Los Felis? And I gave you my address and you said, I'm headed towards you more or less. Maybe it wasn't that intense. That feels a little Joe DiAngelo, Jen DiAngelo gave me a little more heads up. Eventually you text me. You said, you're outside my apartment. So I put on some shoes, I walked down and there you're standing holding a wrapped box, a box wrapped in what appears to be gift wrap, and actually back up. You had set it down on for me to safely pick up. And you had also, oh god, there's so many now looking back on this memory, there was more to it because you had asked, we're not we're going to get away from this moment, because you had requested a few weeks ago, Emma Thompson was on the podcast and she had given me what's known as some snowballs and teacakes and treats and had given me way too many, and you had said, if you have a single snowball, I'd love to try. And I said, oh, you can certainly have a full box because I've got at least ten, so I in this exchange, I brought down a bag of those and gave them to you. I'm curious. I also told you when I gave you the bag. Unfortunately these expired a month ago, but I'm curreus. I also gave you a tea cake which was not expired. Have you tried any of it? There's no pressure, but there's a little pressure. 00:21:05 Speaker 2: I've tried both of them. 00:21:06 Speaker 4: What did you think? 00:21:08 Speaker 2: Well, so the snowball was amazing. It was everything I'd hoped it would be. Amort expired even expired and so far. I mean, I ate it yesterday, so you know, yeah, if I'm if it's going to kill me, it hasn't yet. But it was funny because I opened the box. You told me they expired a month ago, and I opened the box when the first one that I pulled out was completely deflated and shattered and it looked like absolute trash. It did not look like food, And I thought, wow, okay, they really mean it. 00:21:48 Speaker 4: Can self destruct on. 00:21:49 Speaker 2: The day, Yes, because I was thinking, you know, it says best by June thirtieth. You know that's not a hard and fast rule. 00:21:57 Speaker 4: It aspired and best Buy feel like different things to me. 00:22:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, but but yeah, so I threw that one away. But then the next time I pulled out was perfectly round okay, and it was It didn't taste weird, it was so good. I love marshmallow. I'm so excited to try it. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, And I feel like marshmallow lasts a lot longer than anybody gives it credit for. You know, it's a deeply unnatural product, and I think it's like kind of back to last I did. 00:22:27 Speaker 2: I got slightly worried because I was thinking, oh, it's this is from the UK, and I feel like other countries have better food, not right. 00:22:39 Speaker 4: Not as many natural elements. 00:22:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was thinking perhaps that best Buy means more, right, But again, I'm fine and it was delightful. So if it does kill me, it's worth. 00:22:49 Speaker 4: It good and for me to have killed you. Is there anything better the slow poisoning of gen d Angelo's. 00:23:00 Speaker 2: Exactly with the help of Oscar winner Emmaton, Yes, I mean. 00:23:03 Speaker 4: There's no better. Absolutely, your husband will be talking for years. I mean it's a good first date story for him. It's perfect exactly. Okay. Well, that's good to know. You know, we're in quarantine, and expiration dates kind of have gone out the window. I read an article and it seems like expiration dates are really a little bit of nonsense unless you're dealing with like a dairy or poultry product. Yeah, you're probably You've got a little a little give a little give room. That's not this thing, a little room to wiggle wiggle room. We got there, We got there. I'll always get there. That's my promise to you. So expiration dates, everybody, ignore them. Do what you want to do. We've got to eat. We've got to eat. But anyway, back to our exchange yesterday, Jen, you had left this box. I picked it up and I took my into my apartment and then eventually realized, oh, Jen is going to be on the podcast tomorrow. The podcast is up. Course I said no gifts, so it was a little bit of a jolt to my system. And I assume this gift is for me? Is that correct? 00:24:20 Speaker 2: It is? 00:24:21 Speaker 4: Do you want me to open it now on the podcast or should I wait? 00:24:25 Speaker 2: I think you should open it now. 00:24:26 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to open it up. It's in a speaking of expiration dates, kind of a Christmas wrapping paper, and but there's Christmas never expires. It's uh, you know it. It lives this year round. So yes, it's kind of a probably like a six by six inch cube set the dimensions we're talking about here, I'm going to open it up. Oh what is this? Is this? I mean, what I see right now is a box that says Tapas Cheese fondue. It's a box with two forks, a tea light. It's got everything you need to make fond But there's also the chance that there's something else in this box. Is this what I'm looking at? Are we talking about fondu here? Or Am I going to open this and there's a hamster? 00:25:18 Speaker 2: We are talking about fondu here? 00:25:20 Speaker 4: Oh this is fantastic. Tell me everything. 00:25:23 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, first of all, i'd like to say that I brought this to your home, and then as I was walking home, I remembered that you had previously said on the podcast that you are lactose intolerant, and so now I am poisoning you. 00:25:35 Speaker 4: Jen. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not lactose intolerant. 00:25:38 Speaker 2: You aren't. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: No. 00:25:39 Speaker 4: I think somebody's been on here that's been lactose intolerant. I can eat whatever I want. 00:25:44 Speaker 2: Not all right, you said you were lactism intolerant. 00:25:47 Speaker 4: Oh I can, I'm I'm literal. 00:25:49 Speaker 3: No. 00:25:49 Speaker 4: Maybe what you're confusing with is the fact that I'm an adult who drinks milk, because I you know, I have every night I have some milk with my cookies. So I'm as far from lactose intolerant as I'm eating cheese. I'm eating you know, yo corpting. Oh, I'm fully open to lactose. I mean, I think you can lose that ability as you get older, Is that true? 00:26:14 Speaker 2: I think? So you have to rethink this gift because I really I got excited about the idea that it would hurt you. 00:26:22 Speaker 4: Well, that's your uncle coming through, that's your. 00:26:27 Speaker 2: Yes, I've perfected the serial killer method by making it slow and untraceable. 00:26:34 Speaker 4: Over years of fondue parties. Bridge and Wininger eventually died at age ninety eight. Gen strikes well. 00:26:44 Speaker 2: I Also the other thing about this gift is that when you ask what's inside, I'm actually slightly nervous because I'll be completely honest with you. This gift is from my garage. 00:26:56 Speaker 4: There could be a whole spider's nest. 00:26:58 Speaker 2: There could be there could be spiders, There could be I don't know, a mouse or something. There could really be anything, and I'm I went into my garage thinking I had a gift in mind. Okay, but I was like, oh, there's a funny piece of what is essentially trash that I can give a bridge. And I went into the garage looking for it, and it was I know that somewhere in the garage there is a Suburbicon lunch bo filled with other promotional Suburbicon swag. 00:27:34 Speaker 4: Suburbican now available on DVD. 00:27:38 Speaker 2: I assume it's your favorite film, of course. 00:27:42 Speaker 4: Wait, how did you come across this Suburbicon swag. 00:27:46 Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought that I have a vague memory of someone having it somewhere and being like I don't want this, and me saying I'll take that because I feel like there's some funny use for it. Eventually to six or seven years later, I was going to give it to you for this podcast, but then I couldn't find it. But my husband thinks that he had it for some reason. 00:28:12 Speaker 4: Well he's a suburbicon head. 00:28:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. He spent a lot of money to buy it. So yeah, So I looked around for the Suburbicon lunchbox and then I couldn't find it. But then I found this fond box and I thought, okay, great, a little fondu set its fun. 00:28:28 Speaker 4: Do you have you ever made fondue? Was this, like, I mean, in all honesty, was this like a wedding gift? Was this a garage gift? Was left in your garage? 00:28:40 Speaker 2: Came in the garage. I think that this actually might be like a white elephant gift that. 00:28:48 Speaker 4: I got interested at some point. This is an interesting white elephant realm where it's like usable and not fully crappy, but also not usable. It's it's in that weird area where it's like, oh yeah, this is an item that people buy, right, it's not something you found at that I mean maybe it's at the dollar store. It doesn't look like it could be purchased at the dollar store, so it's like not, but then it kind of ends up in your garage. 00:29:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's sort of like I it feels like if you are going to make fun do at home, that's something you probably already know about yourself. Yes, you're not going to get the FUNDU said, and then go You're right. 00:29:34 Speaker 4: This has unlocked something in me that I now need to dip things in Milton cheese. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: It's a very specific snack, but you know, we're stuck at home. I thought maybe maybe we'll enjoy having a little tap us on. 00:29:48 Speaker 4: Do you never know? I mean, it's hard to even say what size of I mean, this looks like it could hold any level of cheese. I mean it's a oh, it says zero point four to four pounds. I don't know what that means. I don't know. That must be the weight of the pot itself. I can't imagine that's how much cheese holds a quarter pound of cheese. 00:30:11 Speaker 2: The thing that I find a little bit concerning is that it comes with a tea light, right. I don't really trust the strength of a tea light to melt cheese. 00:30:24 Speaker 4: No, I will happily put my finger in a tea light, you know, like that's not gonna I mean, I don't know that that's going to be the strength required to melt an entire block of cheese. Unless this is something where they say set it up three days before and allow cheese to slowly melt, which feels like it would require a little too much planning, especially level of cheese. But this is very intriguing. Are you a cheese eater. 00:30:50 Speaker 2: I'm a big time cheese eater. Cheese. 00:30:53 Speaker 4: What kind of cheese are you eating? 00:30:56 Speaker 2: I mean, really, any kind? I love a grete breeze, Oh. 00:31:00 Speaker 4: A good Brie, and I feel like Brie is a fond cheese. Is that right? It melts easily. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: I don't know actually if it melts or I don't think it. Yeah, I don't know. Every time I am required to recall a fact on a podcast, I get very nervous because I'm very aware of people listening and screaming, yes, Bree melts, but my instinct is that bree doesn't melt well soft. It is very soft. But yeah, when I think of a melty cheese, I think of like a Fontina. 00:31:39 Speaker 4: Or Gere. 00:31:40 Speaker 2: Right, I feel like Greere is maybe a fondue. 00:31:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe thinking of Greere rather than yeah, maybe that's the one that I'm thinking just kind of melts no matter where you put it tea like. 00:31:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also thinking of a baked bree, which does get melty, but it's not super right. 00:32:00 Speaker 4: Oh, I love a baked bree. When am I going to have a baked bree next. That's really what we're asking. Nobody can say for yourself. Have you ever been to one of those Pondux restaurants. What's it called the melting pot, the melting pot. I was going to call it the hot pot or the pot Central, but the melting Pot. Have you been to one of those? 00:32:24 Speaker 2: I have, So I I think of myself as like a big fondue person, and yet I still. 00:32:31 Speaker 4: So, you're getting rid of your pots? You just have a five gallon bucket? Yeah, another thing in your garage. 00:32:39 Speaker 2: I've gotten a much nicer fon two sets, so I'm getting rid of the garage one. But uh, yeah, I have always thought of the melting Pot as being like a really amazing restaurant that also was where all the cool kids would go and have their birthday parties in middle school. 00:32:59 Speaker 4: Oh right, of course that feels very birthday party, yeah. 00:33:02 Speaker 2: Focused, but I never went had a sad reveal of my middle school years, and so I always like the melting Pot about it so good. And then my husband and I were in Pasadena running some errand or something, and there's a melting pot there, right, And I was like, we have to go, and we went, and I'm sorry to say I found it horrible. 00:33:28 Speaker 4: It was horrible about it. 00:33:31 Speaker 2: It's just the cheese was weird. It was just a weird It just really wasn't good. It made me question if I really like fondue at all. 00:33:39 Speaker 4: Wow, they're really doing a horrible job as a restaurant. If they are de converting people from fondue, they should be kind of a bridge to a life of fondue. And it sounds like they're turning people away from it. 00:33:50 Speaker 2: That's what you would think. I mean, it is entirely possible that I really am just not a fondue person and that I really just like cheese on its own, not it over a candle. 00:34:01 Speaker 4: And what I mean, I also imagine the quality of the product dipped into the fondue is important. What did they have you dipping in their fondue? 00:34:08 Speaker 2: I think it was just bread mostly. I'm trying to remember what else there was, And yeah, I think the bread was maybe not so great. 00:34:17 Speaker 4: How is this a full restaurant if they're just serving you like old bread and low quality melted cheese. 00:34:24 Speaker 2: It must have been something else. I just can't really remember. This is a few years ago, but yeah, there must have been other things. But then I'm also sort of like, what else would I want to dip in cheese? 00:34:35 Speaker 4: Right? I mean you don't want to. It's not like you want a little cube of chicken to be dipping in the cheese or something that sounds horrifying or like. 00:34:44 Speaker 2: A carrot or something. I just don't really know. 00:34:47 Speaker 4: It feels like, I mean, with the box that this came in, it seems like people are going to be dipping some sort of it's like a pair wrapped in some type of meat, some sort of oh, like a yeah, I don't know what to tell you, a thinly sliced ham or something, yeah, cushido or something, right exactly. So maybe that's something that the fondue melting melting pot is what it's called, could look into a fruit wrapped in meat. That's something maybe if I were to take over the company, that's what I would approach them with. They're kind of the Benny Hanna of cheese. Would you say, it's kind of I could say, so there's a little bit of a showy element to it or something. 00:35:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like you're sort of yeah, I was about to say, you're doing it yourself. But you don't cook your own food, if any Hanna, you just want to be. 00:35:40 Speaker 4: Commandeer the grill. 00:35:43 Speaker 2: I usually try to like I would like to do the onion volcanoes. 00:35:48 Speaker 4: Please, your arms are just covered and burns. Oh wow, Well, I look forward to trying to melt some cheese. And I guess you can also do chocolate. Uh you know, uh, melted chocolate. That's a whole other territory where you get into like the chocolate fountain, which I just think is despicable invention. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: Surely a thing of the past now, certainly I feel like post COVID, right, putting a chocolate. 00:36:24 Speaker 4: Everybody's standing around without a mask, dipping something into a communal food fountain doesn't quite feel right for our times. But you know, maybe that's something we could look for. There'll be a revival, maybe once we find a way to vaccinate ourselves. Or I'm maybe I buy stock in chocolate fountains now and just back and watch as the money rolls in and people are going to be desperate to be sharing a fountain. 00:36:51 Speaker 2: I think that, oh for sure. 00:36:53 Speaker 4: Weddings, funerals, birthday parties, you want to have a fountain of low quality chocolate. 00:36:58 Speaker 2: I think I worked on a show that had a chocolate fountain on stage every tape night. It was a multi ye tape nights, and they would have to unplug it every time we rolled. 00:37:13 Speaker 5: Oh, it would like just become still. That is a terrible idea, was really horrible. Yeah, I can't was it the caterer's idea? 00:37:25 Speaker 2: I guess yeah, it was here. 00:37:27 Speaker 4: And did you ever use the fountain? 00:37:30 Speaker 2: I did, uh. I dipped a couple of pretzels in it, and yeah, it really is just not not for me. I'm not a big chocolate person in general, right, and intermittently running chocolate fountain quality chocolate is probably not going to be for me no matter what. 00:37:46 Speaker 4: But maybe you place it on a dark sound stage surrounded by strangers and people who could be running their fingers through it at any point. That's that's my pitch to you. I don't know what to say that. I mean, I bless the caterer that thought that would be a fun idea. You know that somebody thought this will be fun and then everyone just had to go along with it. And my heart is now breaking, but we all need Fortunately, the fountain is probably going to go away and we don't have to worry about that strange moment in time that we all kind of went through and had to deal with. 00:38:23 Speaker 2: Jen will no longer be terrorist. 00:38:25 Speaker 4: I feel like it's time to play a game. I want to play a game. Do you feel like playing Gift or a Curse or Gift Master? 00:38:34 Speaker 2: Oh? Wow? 00:38:36 Speaker 4: Is yours? 00:38:37 Speaker 2: I think gift or occurs? 00:38:39 Speaker 4: Okay, I need a number from you between one and ten seven. Okay, time for me to go calculate. While I'm calculating the items for you for Gift or a Curse, You're going to do whatever you want with the microphone. You can promote something, you can recommend something, you can tear down an enemy. Do what you want to do. I'll be right back. 00:39:00 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I feel inclined to tear down an enemy. But now I'm trying to think of an enemy that I have. Oh boy, I'm trying to think. What do I hate right now? Hmm? I hate? Oh boy, I'm really blowing it. I have the mic. This is my responsibility to fill this time. Jeez, I guess I'm gonna switch your promotion. I get Okay, here's my enemy. It's social media. So I'm not going to promote my social media. I want to tear down social media. It's making me just so annoyed to look at it all the time. So this isn't funny. I thought it would be fun to tear down social media, but of course it's not. We all know, we all know what it is. I'm just going to promote the idea of going on a long walk. I think that that that's really nice. I feel like we could all use a long walk. So, yeah, go on a long walk. 00:40:10 Speaker 4: Jen, you fumbled it a little there. I mean you admitted it to yourself. You you it just didn't feel like you had a clear path forward, and so you struggled, but eventually recommended a nice thing, which is the long walk. Everybody, get out. Use your legs. Such a wonderful form of exercise. It doesn't even feel like it. You're just moving along seeing the world, and. 00:40:35 Speaker 2: You can walk around looking at stuff. 00:40:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, take a look at whatever you want. Put in some music. Do you listen to music while you're walking? Do you listen to something? 00:40:43 Speaker 2: Sometimes I do, and sometimes I just go for a stroll right nothing? 00:40:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for me, I the music is an occasional treat. But for the most part, I'm doing kind of just let's think about the world situation. But that's neither here north because right now we're gonna play gift or a curse in Jen, I'm gonna name three things, three items, whatevers, and then you're gonna tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why, And then I'm going to tell you that you're if you're correct or incorrect, because there are correct answers. Okay, So first up, gift or a curse? Talking to yourself? 00:41:20 Speaker 2: Oh I I mean I think it's a gift. Why I can't really? Oh boy, this is a real indictment of UCB. I'm a formally trained improviser, and I'm floundering. 00:41:41 Speaker 4: I'm always looking for a reason to indict UCB. You know, let's put the training to work. Jen, You've just committed to telling everyone that you think talking to yourself is a gift. What's something? What's such a gift about it? Well? 00:41:54 Speaker 2: I was thinking that, like, you know, it applies that, like you're never really going to be bored with yourself if you're sort of able to uh fill the space a little bit. Like I think that like if you're not talking to yourself? Are you just sort of like standing in a dark room staring at a wall with no thoughts in your head at all? 00:42:18 Speaker 4: Right? 00:42:19 Speaker 2: Right, But of course talking to yourself can go very dark, very quickly if you're really having like a real conversation or a back and forth. 00:42:30 Speaker 4: Okay, well, do you have anything else to say about talking to yourself or do you want to know the truth? 00:42:37 Speaker 2: I would to say one last thing in defense of talking to yourself as a GIF. Okay, I feel like I do it for example, like when I'm looking for something and I'll just be like, oh, where did I leave that thing? It wasn't over there, and it helps me just sort of like sort through my thought process. I think that that's good use of it. 00:42:55 Speaker 4: Right. 00:42:57 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's all I have to say. Now, please, I have you're gonna tell me I'm wrong. 00:43:01 Speaker 4: Jen, I'm just gonna come right out and tell you are absolutely right talking to yourself as a gift. I love talking to myself. I mean maybe it's also occurs in the fact that it's just with each passing year, I talk more to myself to the point that like I catch myself at you know, wandering around the grocery store, almost saying something to myself. And at that point that's I think that's when we get into cursed territory. But for the most part, everybody should be talking to themselves. I mean there's also the you know that it can get negative quickly. There's a lot of me insulting myself or you know a lot of that sort of behavior, which is probably probably not the route you want to take with talking to yourself. But I think we should all just be happy to talk to ourselves. It's a nice you know, you get to use your voice. You know, maybe you go you're in quarantine, you have no one else to talk to. Four days of past you haven't said a word. You've got to keep the engine running. It's like a car. Yeah, exactly, say something to yourself. You can try out a new voice, you can try out an accent. It's a lot of fun and talking to yourself. I think that, you know, it's been a little bit as a society we've demonized talking to yourself or made it seem like it's kind of a shameful thing to do. But in reality, why not say something to yourself If. 00:44:26 Speaker 2: You don't want to talk to yourself. Who else is gonna want to right. 00:44:30 Speaker 4: Yes, you've got to learn to talk to yourself before other people can talk to you. I think that's the rule. Okay, Chen, congratulations on getting one right. But we're moving on to number two. Now, this is an interesting one. We'll see if you have any opinion whatsoever. Gift or a curse. Roller coaster Tycoon gift? 00:44:52 Speaker 2: I love roller coaster g. 00:44:53 Speaker 4: Well, you're right out of the gate, so you do have an opinion on roller coaster Tycoon. 00:44:57 Speaker 2: And why yes, there's the thing with roller coaster Tycoon. One. It's fun. It's fun to build a little theme park, it's fun to run a little business. And also it really reveals to you who you are, because in a sense, in roller Coaster Tycoon, you are God. You are omnipotent, omnipresent, you know everything that's going on, and you can do whatever you want. And so, for example, when I was playing roller Coaster Tycoon, I learned that I am potentially a monster who only cares about money, because every time it rained in my park, I would make the umbrellas cost twenty dollars because people would buy it no matter what. And then sometimes it would be fun to just make my park complete ruin and fire all the janitors and just let there be trash and vomit everywhere, and then watch people complain and then you clean it all up and then everyone's happy again. You know, you get to just do whatever you want. There's no consequences, and then you can learn sort of your uh, you know, worse impulses and correct them in your real life. 00:46:12 Speaker 4: Right, And were you ever like sending some like a roller coaster shooting off the track and then it blows up halfway across the park? 00:46:19 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 00:46:22 Speaker 4: Okay, Jen, I feel like you've made a good statement about roller Coaster Tycoon here, so I have to reveal that roller Coaster Tycoon is a curse, an absolutely curse, because it's so wonderful. I love roller Coaster Tycoon, but unfortunately I can't remember the last time I was able to play Roller Coaster Tycoon because I don't think that it's available anywhere, So it's kind of this haunting thing. 00:46:44 Speaker 2: Sure what, I'm sorry to tell you. You can get it on your phone. Wait, I in fact have it on my phone. 00:46:51 Speaker 4: You're kidding me? What what? Wait? But this I can't imagine it's the real roller Coaster Tycoon, our classic. What I'm looking at roller coaster Tycote right now. She's showing it to me on her phone and it looks like just regular roller coaster tyco Is this a park you've built? This is a gorgeous desert theme park? Wow? 00:47:17 Speaker 2: What so much? 00:47:19 Speaker 4: Well this is going to this is going to be now actually just going to double down on curse because it's going to be on my phone and my life is going to fall apart. 00:47:29 Speaker 2: This huge. 00:47:31 Speaker 4: I love roller Coaster Tycoon and to the point that I think it's a I mean it's been a haunting thing for me for years because I didn't know how to play it. Here we go. So now you've given me a gift that will eventually Now we're just yeah, this this round of gift for of a curse is kind of a starts as a gift becomes a curse, so as. 00:47:52 Speaker 2: Anything can I guess it's. 00:47:54 Speaker 4: Very true, very true. Well, oh wow, the revel I mean, I am my head is spitting right now. Well That's what I'll be doing after the podcast, so I look forward to that. Okay, so you've gotten one out of two so far, so you've got you're headed towards the final the final item here, gift or a curse? Eating Family Style? Do you know what I'm referring to here? 00:48:20 Speaker 2: Yes? I for me, this is a gift because I like eating a little bit of a lot of things. Right. I love Atapa meal, I love just diversity of dishes. The family style is exciting for me because you just get a bunch of stuff and then you sort of. 00:48:40 Speaker 4: Make your own plate, right right. 00:48:42 Speaker 2: But now I'm thinking it can be a curse because sometimes there's not enough. You have to think about the ratio of stuff and how much you're taking and if you're leaving enough for everyone. Oh boy, I say personal gift, societal curse. 00:49:00 Speaker 4: Don't I'm not accepting that answer. I need a one or the other. Gin I'm not gonna budge. 00:49:06 Speaker 2: I said gift first. 00:49:07 Speaker 4: I'll stick with giftin huge news, enormous news, it's a gift. I think eating Family Style is absolutely a gift. I mean with tapis you get into some tricky territory because it always feels like there's not enough. It's you know, you're really but let's head over to a Chinese restaurant or you know a place where the plates are full of food. There's no fear of not getting what you want, and you get to try a little bit of everything, or try a lot a bit of everything. I think, but I don't feel like anybody wants to eat family style anymore. I feel like I'm just constantly caught in a trap when I go out with friends where everybody orders their own thing. It's every person for themselves, and I'm staring desperately at these other plates of food that I'd love to try that I'll never get to. I'll have to come back to the restaurant. I love to eat family style, I wrote, friends you have. I've got a lot of bad people in my life, and starting today, I'm gonna be cutting them out one by one using Maybe I'll start invite well, you know, we're still COVID. But and family style again is adjacent to a chocolate fountain where everybody's touching everything. But uh, once we're able to do family style again, I'm going to start. I'm just gonna have to start testing people in my life. I don't know what else to say, Jen, you got two out of three, Some people get zero out of three. Some people very rarely, excuse me, get three out of three. So I think you're you know, you're uh your I guess that's a passing grade, and I'm proud of you. That's all I have to say. 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That's all I wanted. 00:50:45 Speaker 4: Now, so I feel like I can trust you. Now we're going to answer a couple of questions. This is called I said No questions. People are writing into I Said No gifts at gmail dot com. They've got questions about gifts, usually about something that they you know, someone in their life needs a gift and they want to give to him. They need the advice of strangers. So would you help me answer a couple of questions? Of course, let's do it. Okay, here's the first one, Dear Bridger, I was recently dumped by my boyfriend of five months. I'm heartbroken. He would now he would now like to gift me a table. He wants to handmake this table himself. What the hell does that mean? And should I accept the handmade table? All the best, Katherine, Catherine. This question takes a quick turn. This boyfriend or I mean, let's see, it's been five months. This feels psychotic to me. I'm just gonna put it all out there this, I mean, why does he want to give you a table? Was that the breaking point of the relationship that you didn't have a table? 00:51:47 Speaker 2: Yeah? At my gun instinct is absolutely know. That seems like he's trying to be like, yes, we broke up, but I'm still a nice man. Look I've given you this handmade. 00:51:58 Speaker 4: Table, unwieldy piece of furniture. 00:52:02 Speaker 2: Yeah you yeah, you gotta say no unless yeah, unless you were like, uh, that was the real sticking point that he had never made a table. 00:52:14 Speaker 4: Or maybe you're itching for a table. But I mean what I'm what I'm seeing here is suddenly Catherine, and my heart goes out to you. This guy shouldn't have broken up with you. You listen to the podcast. You're a good person. You're gonna be I mean, are you gonna be eating meals alone at this table that this jerk has made for you? I don't if he's willing to put in the effort to make a handmade piece of furniture, I don't know. Maybe he's gonna put a recording device in it. That's something else you have to be worried about. 00:52:43 Speaker 2: I yeah, it could be a trojan horse. 00:52:46 Speaker 4: Right, or it could also be you know, he puts bed bugs in it and it's there to destroy you. This guy is much like. 00:52:53 Speaker 2: The spiders I put in the fond Kid, right, you don't trusted? 00:52:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a weird move by whatever his name is. And I would not accept a handmade table unless you know. I was getting it from a divorce and I was like demanding our beloved table came to me. But the ex. 00:53:17 Speaker 2: I guess one other potential situation here that we're not considering is that this man is a renowned furniture maker and a lot of money. 00:53:28 Speaker 4: Very true, this could be a money making opportunity. 00:53:32 Speaker 2: Yes, if you think it's going to be an incredible table that you can sell for money, oh and sure take it. 00:53:39 Speaker 4: Absolutely. This is what you do, Catherine. You say, of course I want the table, and then say bring it over Saturday morning. So he's going to be bringing it over Saturday, and say leave it on the lawn. He leaves it on the lawn. Suddenly you've got the beginnings of a garage sale. Put everything else you want to sell out there. You're at least going to sell that table. You're gonna make a little bit of money off. You should at least come out of this relationship with a little bit of extra cash. Sell the table. Absolutely accept this gift. I'm sorry that we even considered the other things this guy is making you. You could become a furniture salesperson. 00:54:15 Speaker 2: That's one other suggestion. Oh okay, and this is a little evil. Oh I'm excited on the off chance that, Catherine, if this man really broke your heart or anything, and you are inclined to get some sort of revenge, you should say absolutely, I would love to have the table, just so you know I've moved. And then you give him the address of some sort of far away field, so he goes through other tuble of making the table and then coming to deliver it, and you've sent him just on a wild goose chase, and then he just has a table. 00:54:52 Speaker 4: That's great, he's rented a moving the scenario. But then I also do think, Catherine, you'll have to move because now, wow, you've got an angry ex boyfriend with a table despair, and who knows what's going to happen in that case. But I mean, it might be worth sending him to an empty field with. 00:55:12 Speaker 2: The tape you're inclined to get revenge and start your life a new in a new city, with a new name. You can do it that. 00:55:18 Speaker 4: Way, Beautiful Catherine, you have so many options here boggles my mind. Move forward with one of those plans, and uh, you know, go find somebody who's not going to make you a table after he breaks up with you. Next question, Okay, this is uh hello Bridger. I need help finding the perfect gift for my fiance on our wedding day. I want to start our marriage off strong by giving him a thoughtful gift as we separately primp for our vows. We'll be getting married at a private wooded elopement with just us, an efficient and a photographer. My fiance is my soulmate and we've been together almost ten years, so I want it to be special. I thought it would be cool to give him something he could actually wear at the wedding, like cuffler, but that doesn't seem like a soulmate gift. What's the right gift? Please help? Warm regards, Jordan. Jordan, just reading through this email, I'm saying you're going to be in the woods. You want him to be wearing something? I mean, what better? I mean, let's just start off with a cloak. If you're going to be standing in the woods getting married, that feels you've got a photographer. Suddenly you've got kind of an eleven wedding. Does that feel? I mean, that's at least somewhere to begin. 00:56:29 Speaker 2: Yes, some sort of ceremonial cloak, for sure. 00:56:33 Speaker 4: It's a beautiful velvet cloak. Any color you choose, maybe a jewel. 00:56:37 Speaker 2: Tone yes, a jewel tone yes, and then some sort of jewel probably broach. 00:56:42 Speaker 4: Oh, I love that. 00:56:44 Speaker 2: That's Jordan. I have to say, this is this is meant to be that this question has come in. I married someone who I had been with for nine years, and I also got very stressed about what to give him on our wedding day because it is a very stressful thing. You feel like it has to be something so great and indicative of your love, but yet you've probably exchanged many gifts up until them, and you have all these other things to worry about. I went with we did not exchange vows in our ceremony, so I wrote our vows in a little notebook and gave that to him with the promise of going on a trip that he really wanted to go on. So it was like, we'll go on this trip. So, yeah, you could always go for some sort of experience things. 00:57:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, what trip did you go on? Can I pry? 00:57:44 Speaker 2: Well, he actually never even wound up going on it, but mar lies, yes, it felt completely online. He was writing a project that was based in Panama, and I had gone on a couple trips by myself during our relationship, but he had never done that, and so I was like, you can go to Panama and as like a research and like solo trip experience, which will be very great. But then he wound up going to Italy by himself. 00:58:19 Speaker 4: Oh okay, wow, that's a wonderful gift. 00:58:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a very important thing for couples, especially as you go on a trip by yourself every once in a while. 00:58:29 Speaker 4: I think that that, truly separating, having separate experiences from each other that you can then discuss is infinitely more valuable than Oh, I mean, the one thing more valuable is a cloak, but otherwise this is a solid number two. I think that that's a great I mean, maybe you know, we're in quarantine, it's hard to travel right now, but you get him, like, let's say you're giving him a trip to the Alps. You buy him a ski jacket and say you're going skiing in the Alps. Or the Alps is the only vacation destination I can think of. I've never been there. 00:59:03 Speaker 2: And probably the hardest place to get to now and for quite some time. 00:59:09 Speaker 4: But I mean the promise of that is something that Jordan's fiance can really look forward to. Yeah, or another destination. Maybe it's real road trip or something road trip. Maybe you buy him a motorcycle and send him across the country. Yeah, I don't know, it's vacation. 00:59:26 Speaker 2: Is the cloak is really hard to beat? 00:59:28 Speaker 4: Maybe Jordan, you wear the cloak in order to reveal to him that he's going on an all expense paid trip. 00:59:35 Speaker 2: Yes, the inside of the cloak is the map that you will follow. 00:59:40 Speaker 4: You give him a cloak and send him to New Zealand where they filmed Lord of the Rings. Oh, he care if he likes the movies or the books. It's still a distance you need to walk around. And they're having a wonderful time right now. They don't have COVID, I mean as of recording time. Yeah, I think we've answered the question. We've nailed both of these in such a huge way that my heart is pounding. Jin. I appreciate you our business, this should be our business. This is our new advice business. And feel free to reach out to me and we'll get your credit card information and everything will work out. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: Advice California dot net. 01:00:25 Speaker 4: This is Windows dot net. Windows to Theworld dot net by Jen and Bridger Coming soon. Jen, good grief, what a wonderful time I've had with you. It's so lovely getting to chat despite not being able to do it in person. I mean, the last time I did see you was outside of the podcast studio weirdly enough, pre COVID, and I said, Jen, I want you to be on the podcast, thinking oh, eventually we'll get to record this in a studio. Flash forward to months and months later. Here we are with your new Windows. That's all we can do right now. We're all trying our best. 01:01:00 Speaker 2: We're all doing our best. 01:01:01 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for the sponge. You said, I look forward to either making fond or putting it in a garage one or the other. It's going to happen. 01:01:13 Speaker 2: I mean, I am disappointed that it isn't going to cause you intestinal distress. I thought it might. 01:01:19 Speaker 4: Plenty of other things will find their way to do it so great, you know whatever, Well, everybody, I hope you're going to just go out and have a wonderful day. I hope you've reached whatever destination you're headed to, or cleaned whatever dish that you were washing at the beginning of this podcast, and I'm going to send you out into the world just having a lovely time. So take care of yourself. Goodbye. I said no gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter. At I said no gifts, and if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're at it. 01:02:14 Speaker 1: I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and 01:02:36 Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me