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Speaker 1: You gotta come to be empty. And I said, no, guest,

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Speaker 4: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineker. I

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Speaker 4: hope you're doing fine. I hope you're doing well. I

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Speaker 4: I'm relaxed, I've got my slippers on, and I'm so

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just so happy about today's guest. Just

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Speaker 4: a wonderful beam of light. Jen DeAngelo. Welcome to. I said,

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here. Jen.

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Speaker 4: How are you you look? You're I mean, right before

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Speaker 4: we got into this, I mentioned that you've got this

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. This is a new window.

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Speaker 2: Before we started, and.

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Speaker 4: Then I demanded that you keep the rest to yourself

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Speaker 4: until we began recording, because this is also a window podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm glad that I can finally shed some light

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Speaker 4: So, oh yeah, this is it's all been building up

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Speaker 4: After this episode, there will be nothing left to look

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Speaker 4: forward to. So now, when you say it's a new window,

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Speaker 4: Or was it a bad window and this is now

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Speaker 2: There were two bad windows that have been replaced by

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Speaker 4: Oh and probably energy efficient.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Previously the windows were very old single pane windows,

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Speaker 4: Would it actually burn you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was a thing. We've lived in this after

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Speaker 4: So great timing, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: But yes, it used to be a thing that you

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Speaker 4: No, that's where you would have just come to make

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Speaker 4: What was the final straw? Was it just we're tired

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was, we were tired of burning. There

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Speaker 4: And was there a lot of research into the windows

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Speaker 2: Windows dot net is a deep, dark secret.

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Speaker 4: It's Microsoft Windows ninety five dot com. No, it's a

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Speaker 4: It's Mervin's. I'm the president of Mervyn's ink now, and

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Speaker 4: so I've been trying to get into the domain name game.

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Speaker 4: And if somebody buys it before me, you know what,

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Speaker 2: News I now am finally.

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Speaker 4: The leader of Mervyns. Are you familiar with Mervins? No,

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Speaker 4: Mervins is a or was a department store, kind of

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Speaker 4: Okay, So this was Mervyn's was largely Midwest West Coast.

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Speaker 4: Murvn's is now mine, and I hope that you're reclaiming.

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Speaker 4: You became Jen California. Yes, exactly, I'm now Bridger California.

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Speaker 4: For sure, we're getting sunburned in our own homes and

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Speaker 2: So I had to incorporate very quickly. And I had

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Speaker 4: the dimensions we're talking about here, I'm going to open

437
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 4: it up. Oh what is this? Is this? I mean,

438
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 4: what I see right now is a box that says

439
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: Tapas Cheese fondue. It's a box with two forks, a

440
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 4: tea light. It's got everything you need to make fond

441
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: But there's also the chance that there's something else in

442
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: this box. Is this what I'm looking at? Are we

443
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: talking about fondu here? Or Am I going to open

444
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 4: this and there's a hamster?

445
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: We are talking about fondu here?

446
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: Oh this is fantastic. Tell me everything.

447
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, first of all, i'd like to say that

448
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: I brought this to your home, and then as I

449
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: was walking home, I remembered that you had previously said

450
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: on the podcast that you are lactose intolerant, and so

451
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: now I am poisoning you.

452
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: Jen. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not

453
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: lactose intolerant.

454
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: You aren't.

455
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 3: No.

456
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: I think somebody's been on here that's been lactose intolerant.

457
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: I can eat whatever I want.

458
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: Not all right, you said you were lactism intolerant.

459
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: Oh I can, I'm I'm literal.

460
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: No.

461
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 4: Maybe what you're confusing with is the fact that I'm

462
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 4: an adult who drinks milk, because I you know, I

463
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 4: have every night I have some milk with my cookies.

464
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 4: So I'm as far from lactose intolerant as I'm eating cheese.

465
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm eating you know, yo corpting. Oh, I'm fully open

466
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: to lactose. I mean, I think you can lose that

467
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 4: ability as you get older, Is that true?

468
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: I think? So you have to rethink this gift because

469
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: I really I got excited about the idea that it

470
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 2: would hurt you.

471
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: Well, that's your uncle coming through, that's your.

472
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I've perfected the serial killer method by making it

473
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: slow and untraceable.

474
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: Over years of fondue parties. Bridge and Wininger eventually died

475
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: at age ninety eight. Gen strikes well.

476
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: I Also the other thing about this gift is that

477
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: when you ask what's inside, I'm actually slightly nervous because

478
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: I'll be completely honest with you. This gift is from

479
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: my garage.

480
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: There could be a whole spider's nest.

481
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: There could be there could be spiders, There could be

482
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, a mouse or something. There could really

483
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: be anything, and I'm I went into my garage thinking

484
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: I had a gift in mind. Okay, but I was like, oh,

485
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: there's a funny piece of what is essentially trash that

486
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 2: I can give a bridge. And I went into the

487
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: garage looking for it, and it was I know that

488
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: somewhere in the garage there is a Suburbicon lunch bo

489
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: filled with other promotional Suburbicon swag.

490
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: Suburbican now available on DVD.

491
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: I assume it's your favorite film, of course.

492
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: Wait, how did you come across this Suburbicon swag.

493
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought that I have a vague

494
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: memory of someone having it somewhere and being like I

495
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: don't want this, and me saying I'll take that because

496
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: I feel like there's some funny use for it. Eventually

497
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: to six or seven years later, I was going to

498
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: give it to you for this podcast, but then I

499
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: couldn't find it. But my husband thinks that he had

500
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: it for some reason.

501
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 4: Well he's a suburbicon head.

502
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. He spent a lot of money to

503
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: buy it. So yeah, So I looked around for the

504
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: Suburbicon lunchbox and then I couldn't find it. But then

505
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: I found this fond box and I thought, okay, great,

506
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: a little fondu set its fun.

507
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: Do you have you ever made fondue? Was this, like,

508
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: I mean, in all honesty, was this like a wedding gift?

509
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: Was this a garage gift? Was left in your garage?

510
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: Came in the garage. I think that this actually might

511
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: be like a white elephant gift that.

512
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: I got interested at some point. This is an interesting

513
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: white elephant realm where it's like usable and not fully crappy,

514
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: but also not usable. It's it's in that weird area

515
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: where it's like, oh yeah, this is an item that

516
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: people buy, right, it's not something you found at that

517
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: I mean maybe it's at the dollar store. It doesn't

518
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: look like it could be purchased at the dollar store,

519
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: so it's like not, but then it kind of ends

520
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: up in your garage.

521
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's sort of like I it feels like

522
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: if you are going to make fun do at home,

523
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: that's something you probably already know about yourself. Yes, you're

524
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: not going to get the FUNDU said, and then go

525
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: You're right.

526
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: This has unlocked something in me that I now need

527
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: to dip things in Milton cheese.

528
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: It's a very specific snack, but you know, we're stuck

529
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: at home. I thought maybe maybe we'll enjoy having a

530
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: little tap us on.

531
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: Do you never know? I mean, it's hard to even

532
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: say what size of I mean, this looks like it

533
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: could hold any level of cheese. I mean it's a oh,

534
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: it says zero point four to four pounds. I don't

535
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: know what that means. I don't know. That must be

536
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: the weight of the pot itself. I can't imagine that's

537
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: how much cheese holds a quarter pound of cheese.

538
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: The thing that I find a little bit concerning is

539
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: that it comes with a tea light, right. I don't

540
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: really trust the strength of a tea light to melt cheese.

541
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: No, I will happily put my finger in a tea light,

542
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 4: you know, like that's not gonna I mean, I don't

543
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: know that that's going to be the strength required to

544
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: melt an entire block of cheese. Unless this is something

545
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: where they say set it up three days before and

546
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: allow cheese to slowly melt, which feels like it would

547
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: require a little too much planning, especially level of cheese.

548
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: But this is very intriguing. Are you a cheese eater.

549
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm a big time cheese eater. Cheese.

550
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: What kind of cheese are you eating?

551
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: I mean, really, any kind? I love a grete breeze, Oh.

552
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 4: A good Brie, and I feel like Brie is a

553
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: fond cheese. Is that right? It melts easily.

554
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't know actually if it melts or I don't

555
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: think it. Yeah, I don't know. Every time I am

556
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 2: required to recall a fact on a podcast, I get

557
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: very nervous because I'm very aware of people listening and screaming, yes,

558
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: Bree melts, but my instinct is that bree doesn't melt

559
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: well soft. It is very soft. But yeah, when I

560
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: think of a melty cheese, I think of like a Fontina.

561
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: Or Gere.

562
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: Right, I feel like Greere is maybe a fondue.

563
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe thinking of Greere rather than yeah, maybe that's

564
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: the one that I'm thinking just kind of melts no

565
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: matter where you put it tea like.

566
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also thinking of a baked bree, which does

567
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: get melty, but it's not super right.

568
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: Oh, I love a baked bree. When am I going

569
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: to have a baked bree next. That's really what we're asking.

570
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: Nobody can say for yourself. Have you ever been to

571
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: one of those Pondux restaurants. What's it called the melting pot,

572
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: the melting pot. I was going to call it the

573
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: hot pot or the pot Central, but the melting Pot.

574
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: Have you been to one of those?

575
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I have, So I I think of myself as like

576
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: a big fondue person, and yet I still.

577
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: So, you're getting rid of your pots? You just have

578
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: a five gallon bucket? Yeah, another thing in your garage.

579
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: I've gotten a much nicer fon two sets, so I'm

580
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: getting rid of the garage one. But uh, yeah, I

581
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: have always thought of the melting Pot as being like

582
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: a really amazing restaurant that also was where all the

583
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: cool kids would go and have their birthday parties in

584
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: middle school.

585
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: Oh right, of course that feels very birthday party, yeah.

586
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: Focused, but I never went had a sad reveal of

587
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: my middle school years, and so I always like the

588
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: melting Pot about it so good. And then my husband

589
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: and I were in Pasadena running some errand or something,

590
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: and there's a melting pot there, right, And I was like,

591
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: we have to go, and we went, and I'm sorry

592
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: to say I found it horrible.

593
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: It was horrible about it.

594
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: It's just the cheese was weird. It was just a

595
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: weird It just really wasn't good. It made me question

596
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: if I really like fondue at all.

597
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: Wow, they're really doing a horrible job as a restaurant.

598
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: If they are de converting people from fondue, they should

599
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: be kind of a bridge to a life of fondue.

600
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: And it sounds like they're turning people away from it.

601
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: That's what you would think. I mean, it is entirely

602
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: possible that I really am just not a fondue person

603
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: and that I really just like cheese on its own,

604
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: not it over a candle.

605
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: And what I mean, I also imagine the quality of

606
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 4: the product dipped into the fondue is important. What did

607
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: they have you dipping in their fondue?

608
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: I think it was just bread mostly. I'm trying to

609
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: remember what else there was, And yeah, I think the

610
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: bread was maybe not so great.

611
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 4: How is this a full restaurant if they're just serving

612
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: you like old bread and low quality melted cheese.

613
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: It must have been something else. I just can't really remember.

614
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: This is a few years ago, but yeah, there must

615
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: have been other things. But then I'm also sort of like,

616
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: what else would I want to dip in cheese?

617
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: Right? I mean you don't want to. It's not like

618
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 4: you want a little cube of chicken to be dipping

619
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 4: in the cheese or something that sounds horrifying or like.

620
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: A carrot or something. I just don't really know.

621
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: It feels like, I mean, with the box that this

622
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 4: came in, it seems like people are going to be

623
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: dipping some sort of it's like a pair wrapped in

624
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: some type of meat, some sort of oh, like a yeah,

625
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you, a thinly sliced

626
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: ham or something, yeah, cushido or something, right exactly. So

627
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: maybe that's something that the fondue melting melting pot is

628
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: what it's called, could look into a fruit wrapped in meat.

629
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: That's something maybe if I were to take over the company,

630
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: that's what I would approach them with. They're kind of

631
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 4: the Benny Hanna of cheese. Would you say, it's kind

632
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 4: of I could say, so there's a little bit of

633
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 4: a showy element to it or something.

634
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like you're sort of yeah, I was

635
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: about to say, you're doing it yourself. But you don't

636
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: cook your own food, if any Hanna, you just want

637
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: to be.

638
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: Commandeer the grill.

639
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: I usually try to like I would like to do

640
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: the onion volcanoes.

641
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: Please, your arms are just covered and burns. Oh wow, Well,

642
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: I look forward to trying to melt some cheese. And

643
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: I guess you can also do chocolate. Uh you know, uh,

644
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: melted chocolate. That's a whole other territory where you get

645
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: into like the chocolate fountain, which I just think is

646
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: despicable invention.

647
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: Surely a thing of the past now, certainly I feel

648
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: like post COVID, right, putting a chocolate.

649
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: Everybody's standing around without a mask, dipping something into a

650
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 4: communal food fountain doesn't quite feel right for our times.

651
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe that's something we could look for.

652
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: There'll be a revival, maybe once we find a way

653
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: to vaccinate ourselves. Or I'm maybe I buy stock in

654
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: chocolate fountains now and just back and watch as the

655
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 4: money rolls in and people are going to be desperate

656
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: to be sharing a fountain.

657
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: I think that, oh for sure.

658
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 4: Weddings, funerals, birthday parties, you want to have a fountain

659
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: of low quality chocolate.

660
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: I think I worked on a show that had a

661
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: chocolate fountain on stage every tape night. It was a

662
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: multi ye tape nights, and they would have to unplug

663
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: it every time we rolled.

664
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: Oh, it would like just become still. That is a

665
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 5: terrible idea, was really horrible. Yeah, I can't was it

666
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: the caterer's idea?

667
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, it was here.

668
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: And did you ever use the fountain?

669
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: I did, uh. I dipped a couple of pretzels in it,

670
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: and yeah, it really is just not not for me.

671
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm not a big chocolate person in general, right, and

672
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: intermittently running chocolate fountain quality chocolate is probably not going

673
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: to be for me no matter what.

674
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 4: But maybe you place it on a dark sound stage

675
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 4: surrounded by strangers and people who could be running their

676
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: fingers through it at any point. That's that's my pitch

677
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: to you. I don't know what to say that. I mean,

678
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: I bless the caterer that thought that would be a

679
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: fun idea. You know that somebody thought this will be

680
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 4: fun and then everyone just had to go along with it.

681
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: And my heart is now breaking, but we all need Fortunately,

682
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: the fountain is probably going to go away and we

683
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that strange moment in time

684
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: that we all kind of went through and had to

685
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 4: deal with.

686
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: Jen will no longer be terrorist.

687
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: I feel like it's time to play a game. I

688
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: want to play a game. Do you feel like playing

689
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: Gift or a Curse or Gift Master?

690
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow?

691
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 4: Is yours?

692
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: I think gift or occurs?

693
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I need a number from you between one and

694
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: ten seven. Okay, time for me to go calculate. While

695
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: I'm calculating the items for you for Gift or a Curse,

696
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: You're going to do whatever you want with the microphone.

697
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 4: You can promote something, you can recommend something, you can

698
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: tear down an enemy. Do what you want to do.

699
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: I'll be right back.

700
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I feel inclined to tear down an enemy.

701
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: But now I'm trying to think of an enemy that

702
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: I have. Oh boy, I'm trying to think. What do

703
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: I hate right now? Hmm? I hate? Oh boy, I'm

704
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: really blowing it. I have the mic. This is my

705
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: responsibility to fill this time. Jeez, I guess I'm gonna

706
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: switch your promotion. I get Okay, here's my enemy. It's

707
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: social media. So I'm not going to promote my social media.

708
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: I want to tear down social media. It's making me

709
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: just so annoyed to look at it all the time.

710
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: So this isn't funny. I thought it would be fun

711
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: to tear down social media, but of course it's not.

712
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: We all know, we all know what it is. I'm

713
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: just going to promote the idea of going on a

714
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: long walk. I think that that that's really nice. I

715
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: feel like we could all use a long walk. So, yeah,

716
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: go on a long walk.

717
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: Jen, you fumbled it a little there. I mean you

718
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: admitted it to yourself. You you it just didn't feel

719
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: like you had a clear path forward, and so you struggled,

720
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: but eventually recommended a nice thing, which is the long walk. Everybody,

721
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: get out. Use your legs. Such a wonderful form of exercise.

722
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: It doesn't even feel like it. You're just moving along

723
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: seeing the world, and.

724
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: You can walk around looking at stuff.

725
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, take a look at whatever you want. Put in

726
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: some music. Do you listen to music while you're walking?

727
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Do you listen to something?

728
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do, and sometimes I just go for a

729
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: stroll right nothing?

730
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for me, I the music is an occasional treat.

731
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: But for the most part, I'm doing kind of just

732
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: let's think about the world situation. But that's neither here

733
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 4: north because right now we're gonna play gift or a

734
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: curse in Jen, I'm gonna name three things, three items, whatevers,

735
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna tell me if there are a

736
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: gift or a curse and why, And then I'm going

737
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: to tell you that you're if you're correct or incorrect,

738
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: because there are correct answers. Okay, So first up, gift

739
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 4: or a curse? Talking to yourself?

740
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: Oh I I mean I think it's a gift. Why

741
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: I can't really? Oh boy, this is a real indictment

742
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: of UCB. I'm a formally trained improviser, and I'm floundering.

743
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: I'm always looking for a reason to indict UCB. You know,

744
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: let's put the training to work. Jen, You've just committed

745
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 4: to telling everyone that you think talking to yourself is

746
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 4: a gift. What's something? What's such a gift about it? Well?

747
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: I was thinking that, like, you know, it applies that,

748
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: like you're never really going to be bored with yourself

749
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: if you're sort of able to uh fill the space

750
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: a little bit. Like I think that like if you're

751
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: not talking to yourself? Are you just sort of like

752
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: standing in a dark room staring at a wall with

753
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: no thoughts in your head at all?

754
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: Right?

755
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 2: Right, But of course talking to yourself can go very dark,

756
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: very quickly if you're really having like a real conversation

757
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: or a back and forth.

758
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: Okay, well, do you have anything else to say about

759
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 4: talking to yourself or do you want to know the truth?

760
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: I would to say one last thing in defense of

761
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: talking to yourself as a GIF. Okay, I feel like

762
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: I do it for example, like when I'm looking for

763
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: something and I'll just be like, oh, where did I

764
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: leave that thing? It wasn't over there, and it helps

765
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: me just sort of like sort through my thought process.

766
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: I think that that's good use of it.

767
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: Right.

768
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's all I have to say. Now, please,

769
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: I have you're gonna tell me I'm wrong.

770
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 4: Jen, I'm just gonna come right out and tell you

771
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: are absolutely right talking to yourself as a gift. I

772
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 4: love talking to myself. I mean maybe it's also occurs

773
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: in the fact that it's just with each passing year,

774
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: I talk more to myself to the point that like

775
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: I catch myself at you know, wandering around the grocery store,

776
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: almost saying something to myself. And at that point that's

777
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: I think that's when we get into cursed territory. But

778
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: for the most part, everybody should be talking to themselves.

779
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: I mean there's also the you know that it can

780
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 4: get negative quickly. There's a lot of me insulting myself

781
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: or you know a lot of that sort of behavior,

782
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: which is probably probably not the route you want to

783
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: take with talking to yourself. But I think we should

784
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: all just be happy to talk to ourselves. It's a

785
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 4: nice you know, you get to use your voice. You know,

786
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: maybe you go you're in quarantine, you have no one

787
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: else to talk to. Four days of past you haven't

788
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: said a word. You've got to keep the engine running.

789
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: It's like a car. Yeah, exactly, say something to yourself.

790
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: You can try out a new voice, you can try

791
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: out an accent. It's a lot of fun and talking

792
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: to yourself. I think that, you know, it's been a

793
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 4: little bit as a society we've demonized talking to yourself

794
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: or made it seem like it's kind of a shameful

795
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 4: thing to do. But in reality, why not say something

796
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: to yourself If.

797
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: You don't want to talk to yourself. Who else is

798
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: gonna want to right.

799
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 4: Yes, you've got to learn to talk to yourself before

800
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: other people can talk to you. I think that's the rule. Okay, Chen,

801
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: congratulations on getting one right. But we're moving on to

802
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: number two. Now, this is an interesting one. We'll see

803
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 4: if you have any opinion whatsoever. Gift or a curse.

804
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: Roller coaster Tycoon gift?

805
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: I love roller coaster g.

806
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: Well, you're right out of the gate, so you do

807
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: have an opinion on roller coaster Tycoon.

808
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: And why yes, there's the thing with roller coaster Tycoon. One.

809
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun to build a little theme park,

810
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: it's fun to run a little business. And also it

811
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: really reveals to you who you are, because in a sense,

812
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: in roller Coaster Tycoon, you are God. You are omnipotent, omnipresent,

813
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: you know everything that's going on, and you can do

814
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: whatever you want. And so, for example, when I was

815
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: playing roller Coaster Tycoon, I learned that I am potentially

816
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: a monster who only cares about money, because every time

817
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: it rained in my park, I would make the umbrellas

818
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: cost twenty dollars because people would buy it no matter what.

819
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: And then sometimes it would be fun to just make

820
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: my park complete ruin and fire all the janitors and

821
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: just let there be trash and vomit everywhere, and then

822
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: watch people complain and then you clean it all up

823
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: and then everyone's happy again. You know, you get to

824
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: just do whatever you want. There's no consequences, and then

825
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: you can learn sort of your uh, you know, worse

826
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: impulses and correct them in your real life.

827
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: Right, And were you ever like sending some like a

828
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: roller coaster shooting off the track and then it blows

829
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: up halfway across the park?

830
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

831
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: Okay, Jen, I feel like you've made a good statement

832
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: about roller Coaster Tycoon here, so I have to reveal

833
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: that roller Coaster Tycoon is a curse, an absolutely curse,

834
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: because it's so wonderful. I love roller Coaster Tycoon, but

835
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: unfortunately I can't remember the last time I was able

836
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 4: to play Roller Coaster Tycoon because I don't think that

837
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: it's available anywhere, So it's kind of this haunting thing.

838
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: Sure what, I'm sorry to tell you. You can get it

839
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: on your phone. Wait, I in fact have it on

840
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: my phone.

841
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: You're kidding me? What what? Wait? But this I can't

842
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: imagine it's the real roller Coaster Tycoon, our classic. What

843
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 4: I'm looking at roller coaster Tycote right now. She's showing

844
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 4: it to me on her phone and it looks like

845
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: just regular roller coaster tyco Is this a park you've built?

846
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 4: This is a gorgeous desert theme park? Wow?

847
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: What so much?

848
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 4: Well this is going to this is going to be

849
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: now actually just going to double down on curse because

850
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: it's going to be on my phone and my life

851
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: is going to fall apart.

852
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: This huge.

853
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: I love roller Coaster Tycoon and to the point that

854
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 4: I think it's a I mean it's been a haunting

855
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: thing for me for years because I didn't know how

856
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: to play it. Here we go. So now you've given

857
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: me a gift that will eventually Now we're just yeah,

858
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: this this round of gift for of a curse is

859
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 4: kind of a starts as a gift becomes a curse,

860
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: so as.

861
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: Anything can I guess it's.

862
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: Very true, very true. Well, oh wow, the revel I mean,

863
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: I am my head is spitting right now. Well That's

864
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 4: what I'll be doing after the podcast, so I look

865
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: forward to that. Okay, so you've gotten one out of

866
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: two so far, so you've got you're headed towards the

867
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 4: final the final item here, gift or a curse? Eating

868
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 4: Family Style? Do you know what I'm referring to here?

869
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: Yes? I for me, this is a gift because I

870
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: like eating a little bit of a lot of things. Right.

871
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: I love Atapa meal, I love just diversity of dishes.

872
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: The family style is exciting for me because you just

873
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: get a bunch of stuff and then you sort of.

874
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: Make your own plate, right right.

875
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: But now I'm thinking it can be a curse because

876
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: sometimes there's not enough. You have to think about the

877
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: ratio of stuff and how much you're taking and if

878
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: you're leaving enough for everyone. Oh boy, I say personal gift,

879
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 2: societal curse.

880
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: Don't I'm not accepting that answer. I need a one

881
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: or the other. Gin I'm not gonna budge.

882
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: I said gift first.

883
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: I'll stick with giftin huge news, enormous news, it's a gift.

884
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: I think eating Family Style is absolutely a gift. I

885
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: mean with tapis you get into some tricky territory because

886
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: it always feels like there's not enough. It's you know,

887
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: you're really but let's head over to a Chinese restaurant

888
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 4: or you know a place where the plates are full

889
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: of food. There's no fear of not getting what you want,

890
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: and you get to try a little bit of everything,

891
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: or try a lot a bit of everything. I think,

892
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: but I don't feel like anybody wants to eat family

893
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 4: style anymore. I feel like I'm just constantly caught in

894
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: a trap when I go out with friends where everybody

895
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 4: orders their own thing. It's every person for themselves, and

896
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: I'm staring desperately at these other plates of food that

897
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: I'd love to try that I'll never get to. I'll

898
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 4: have to come back to the restaurant. I love to

899
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: eat family style, I wrote, friends you have. I've got

900
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: a lot of bad people in my life, and starting today,

901
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be cutting them out one by one using

902
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll start invite well, you know, we're still COVID.

903
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: But and family style again is adjacent to a chocolate

904
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 4: fountain where everybody's touching everything. But uh, once we're able

905
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: to do family style again, I'm going to start. I'm

906
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: just gonna have to start testing people in my life.

907
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say, Jen, you got

908
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: two out of three, Some people get zero out of three.

909
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: Some people very rarely, excuse me, get three out of three.

910
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 4: So I think you're you know, you're uh your I

911
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 4: guess that's a passing grade, and I'm proud of you.

912
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 4: That's all I have to say.

913
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That's all I wanted.

914
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 4: Now, so I feel like I can trust you. Now

915
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 4: we're going to answer a couple of questions. This is

916
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: called I said No questions. People are writing into I

917
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: Said No gifts at gmail dot com. They've got questions

918
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: about gifts, usually about something that they you know, someone

919
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 4: in their life needs a gift and they want to

920
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: give to him. They need the advice of strangers. So

921
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 4: would you help me answer a couple of questions? Of course,

922
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 4: let's do it. Okay, here's the first one, Dear Bridger,

923
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: I was recently dumped by my boyfriend of five months.

924
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: I'm heartbroken. He would now he would now like to

925
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 4: gift me a table. He wants to handmake this table himself.

926
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 4: What the hell does that mean? And should I accept

927
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 4: the handmade table? All the best, Katherine, Catherine. This question

928
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 4: takes a quick turn. This boyfriend or I mean, let's see,

929
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: it's been five months. This feels psychotic to me. I'm

930
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: just gonna put it all out there this, I mean,

931
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: why does he want to give you a table? Was

932
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 4: that the breaking point of the relationship that you didn't

933
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: have a table?

934
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? At my gun instinct is absolutely know. That seems

935
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: like he's trying to be like, yes, we broke up,

936
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: but I'm still a nice man. Look I've given you

937
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: this handmade.

938
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: Table, unwieldy piece of furniture.

939
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you yeah, you gotta say no unless yeah, unless

940
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: you were like, uh, that was the real sticking point

941
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: that he had never made a table.

942
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: Or maybe you're itching for a table. But I mean

943
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 4: what I'm what I'm seeing here is suddenly Catherine, and

944
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: my heart goes out to you. This guy shouldn't have

945
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: broken up with you. You listen to the podcast. You're

946
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: a good person. You're gonna be I mean, are you

947
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: gonna be eating meals alone at this table that this

948
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: jerk has made for you? I don't if he's willing

949
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 4: to put in the effort to make a handmade piece

950
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 4: of furniture, I don't know. Maybe he's gonna put a

951
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: recording device in it. That's something else you have to

952
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: be worried about.

953
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: I yeah, it could be a trojan horse.

954
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: Right, or it could also be you know, he puts

955
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 4: bed bugs in it and it's there to destroy you.

956
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: This guy is much like.

957
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: The spiders I put in the fond Kid, right, you

958
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: don't trusted?

959
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a weird move by whatever his name is.

960
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: And I would not accept a handmade table unless you know.

961
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: I was getting it from a divorce and I was

962
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 4: like demanding our beloved table came to me. But the ex.

963
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: I guess one other potential situation here that we're not

964
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: considering is that this man is a renowned furniture maker

965
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: and a lot of money.

966
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 4: Very true, this could be a money making opportunity.

967
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: Yes, if you think it's going to be an incredible

968
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: table that you can sell for money, oh and sure

969
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: take it.

970
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely. This is what you do, Catherine. You say, of

971
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: course I want the table, and then say bring it

972
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 4: over Saturday morning. So he's going to be bringing it

973
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 4: over Saturday, and say leave it on the lawn. He

974
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 4: leaves it on the lawn. Suddenly you've got the beginnings

975
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: of a garage sale. Put everything else you want to

976
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: sell out there. You're at least going to sell that table.

977
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 4: You're gonna make a little bit of money off. You

978
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: should at least come out of this relationship with a

979
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 4: little bit of extra cash. Sell the table. Absolutely accept

980
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: this gift. I'm sorry that we even considered the other

981
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: things this guy is making you. You could become a

982
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 4: furniture salesperson.

983
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: That's one other suggestion. Oh okay, and this is a

984
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 2: little evil. Oh I'm excited on the off chance that, Catherine,

985
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 2: if this man really broke your heart or anything, and

986
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: you are inclined to get some sort of revenge, you

987
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: should say absolutely, I would love to have the table,

988
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: just so you know I've moved. And then you give

989
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: him the address of some sort of far away field,

990
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: so he goes through other tuble of making the table

991
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 2: and then coming to deliver it, and you've sent him

992
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: just on a wild goose chase, and then he just

993
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: has a table.

994
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 4: That's great, he's rented a moving the scenario. But then

995
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: I also do think, Catherine, you'll have to move because now, wow,

996
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 4: you've got an angry ex boyfriend with a table despair,

997
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: and who knows what's going to happen in that case.

998
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: But I mean, it might be worth sending him to

999
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: an empty field with.

1000
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: The tape you're inclined to get revenge and start your

1001
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: life a new in a new city, with a new name.

1002
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: You can do it that.

1003
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: Way, Beautiful Catherine, you have so many options here boggles

1004
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: my mind. Move forward with one of those plans, and uh,

1005
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: you know, go find somebody who's not going to make

1006
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 4: you a table after he breaks up with you. Next question, Okay,

1007
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: this is uh hello Bridger. I need help finding the

1008
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 4: perfect gift for my fiance on our wedding day. I

1009
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 4: want to start our marriage off strong by giving him

1010
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 4: a thoughtful gift as we separately primp for our vows.

1011
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: We'll be getting married at a private wooded elopement with

1012
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: just us, an efficient and a photographer. My fiance is

1013
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 4: my soulmate and we've been together almost ten years, so

1014
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: I want it to be special. I thought it would

1015
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 4: be cool to give him something he could actually wear

1016
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: at the wedding, like cuffler, but that doesn't seem like

1017
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 4: a soulmate gift. What's the right gift? Please help? Warm regards, Jordan. Jordan,

1018
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 4: just reading through this email, I'm saying you're going to

1019
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 4: be in the woods. You want him to be wearing something?

1020
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: I mean, what better? I mean, let's just start off

1021
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: with a cloak. If you're going to be standing in

1022
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 4: the woods getting married, that feels you've got a photographer.

1023
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: Suddenly you've got kind of an eleven wedding. Does that feel?

1024
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 4: I mean, that's at least somewhere to begin.

1025
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: Yes, some sort of ceremonial cloak, for sure.

1026
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful velvet cloak. Any color you choose, maybe

1027
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 4: a jewel.

1028
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: Tone yes, a jewel tone yes, and then some sort

1029
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 2: of jewel probably broach.

1030
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 4: Oh, I love that.

1031
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: That's Jordan. I have to say, this is this is

1032
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 2: meant to be that this question has come in. I

1033
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: married someone who I had been with for nine years,

1034
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: and I also got very stressed about what to give

1035
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 2: him on our wedding day because it is a very

1036
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: stressful thing. You feel like it has to be something

1037
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 2: so great and indicative of your love, but yet you've

1038
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: probably exchanged many gifts up until them, and you have

1039
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: all these other things to worry about. I went with

1040
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: we did not exchange vows in our ceremony, so I

1041
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: wrote our vows in a little notebook and gave that

1042
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: to him with the promise of going on a trip

1043
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: that he really wanted to go on. So it was like,

1044
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: we'll go on this trip. So, yeah, you could always

1045
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: go for some sort of experience things.

1046
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, what trip did you go on? Can I pry?

1047
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: Well, he actually never even wound up going on it,

1048
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: but mar lies, yes, it felt completely online. He was

1049
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: writing a project that was based in Panama, and I

1050
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: had gone on a couple trips by myself during our relationship,

1051
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: but he had never done that, and so I was like,

1052
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: you can go to Panama and as like a research

1053
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: and like solo trip experience, which will be very great.

1054
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: But then he wound up going to Italy by himself.

1055
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: Oh okay, wow, that's a wonderful gift.

1056
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a very important thing for couples,

1057
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: especially as you go on a trip by yourself every

1058
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: once in a while.

1059
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: I think that that, truly separating, having separate experiences from

1060
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: each other that you can then discuss is infinitely more

1061
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 4: valuable than Oh, I mean, the one thing more valuable

1062
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: is a cloak, but otherwise this is a solid number two.

1063
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 4: I think that that's a great I mean, maybe you know,

1064
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: we're in quarantine, it's hard to travel right now, but

1065
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: you get him, like, let's say you're giving him a

1066
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 4: trip to the Alps. You buy him a ski jacket

1067
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 4: and say you're going skiing in the Alps. Or the

1068
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 4: Alps is the only vacation destination I can think of.

1069
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: I've never been there.

1070
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: And probably the hardest place to get to now and

1071
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: for quite some time.

1072
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 4: But I mean the promise of that is something that

1073
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: Jordan's fiance can really look forward to. Yeah, or another destination.

1074
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 4: Maybe it's real road trip or something road trip. Maybe

1075
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 4: you buy him a motorcycle and send him across the country. Yeah,

1076
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's vacation.

1077
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: Is the cloak is really hard to beat?

1078
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: Maybe Jordan, you wear the cloak in order to reveal

1079
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 4: to him that he's going on an all expense paid trip.

1080
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: Yes, the inside of the cloak is the map that

1081
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: you will follow.

1082
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 4: You give him a cloak and send him to New

1083
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: Zealand where they filmed Lord of the Rings. Oh, he

1084
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 4: care if he likes the movies or the books. It's

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Speaker 4: still a distance you need to walk around. And they're

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Speaker 4: having a wonderful time right now. They don't have COVID,

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Speaker 4: I mean as of recording time. Yeah, I think we've

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Speaker 4: a huge way that my heart is pounding. Jin. I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you our business, this should be our business. This

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Speaker 4: and everything will work out.

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Speaker 2: Advice California dot net.

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Speaker 4: This is Windows dot net. Windows to Theworld dot net

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Speaker 4: by Jen and Bridger Coming soon. Jen, good grief, what

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Speaker 4: a wonderful time I've had with you. It's so lovely

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Speaker 4: getting to chat despite not being able to do it

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Speaker 4: in person. I mean, the last time I did see

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Speaker 4: and I said, Jen, I want you to be on

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Speaker 4: the podcast, thinking oh, eventually we'll get to record this

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Speaker 4: in a studio. Flash forward to months and months later.

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Speaker 4: Here we are with your new Windows. That's all we

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Speaker 4: can do right now. We're all trying our best.

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Speaker 2: We're all doing our best.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: the sponge. You said, I look forward to either making

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Speaker 4: fond or putting it in a garage one or the other.

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Speaker 4: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I am disappointed that it isn't going to

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Speaker 2: cause you intestinal distress. I thought it might.

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Speaker 4: Plenty of other things will find their way to do

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Speaker 4: it so great, you know whatever, Well, everybody, I hope

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Speaker 4: you're going to just go out and have a wonderful day.

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Speaker 4: I hope you've reached whatever destination you're headed to, or

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Speaker 4: cleaned whatever dish that you were washing at the beginning

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Speaker 4: of this podcast, and I'm going to send you out

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Speaker 4: into the world just having a lovely time. So take

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Speaker 4: care of yourself. Goodbye. I said no gifts isn't exactly

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Speaker 4: right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris.

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Speaker 4: The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann. You

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Speaker 4: can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter. At I

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Speaker 4: said no gifts, and if you have a question or

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Speaker 4: need help getting a gift for someone in your life,

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Speaker 4: email me at I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 4: Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you

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Speaker 4: found me, and why not leave a review while you're

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Speaker 4: at it.

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Speaker 1: I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come

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Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no guests, your presences, presents,

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Speaker 1: and

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Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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Speaker 3: dare to surbey me