WEBVTT - Inside the Ton: The Mamas

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<v Speaker 1>Bridgerton The Official Podcast is a production of Shondaland in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Bridgerton the Official Podcast, your exclusive peak

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<v Speaker 2>behind the curtain of Shondaland's Bridgerton series. I'm Betsy Beers,

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<v Speaker 2>executive producer Bridgerton, and I'm also your host of Inside

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<v Speaker 2>the Time, a deep dive into the genesis and journey

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<v Speaker 2>of some of the most beloved characters from the show.

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<v Speaker 2>For the third installment of this four part special, we're

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<v Speaker 2>meddling in the business of Violet Bridgerton and Portia Featherington,

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<v Speaker 2>two widow mothers of the Tongue who on the surface

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<v Speaker 2>really could not be more different from one another, But

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<v Speaker 2>one thing they have in common, Both mamma's are determined

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<v Speaker 2>to do what they think is best for their children.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be joined by the remarkable writers and bona fide

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<v Speaker 2>Bridgerton scholars, author Julia Quinn and showrunner Jess Bronell. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>also hear from the actors Ruth Gemmel and Polly Walker

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<v Speaker 2>on the intersection of these legendary matriarchs. But first, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>let's recall the recent events in the lives of Lady

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<v Speaker 2>Violet Bridgerton and Lady Porscha Featherington. Lady Porsha Featherington has

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<v Speaker 2>spent the better part of the past two seasons and

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<v Speaker 2>brailled in scandal. Wow, there has been a lot of scandal. First,

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<v Speaker 2>she welcomed to pregnant Marina Thompson into her home, and

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<v Speaker 2>while Porsche tried to marry her off before the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the time learned her secret, Lady Whistledown had other plans. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Porsha's husband gambled away all their money and he passed away,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving them nearly destitute. What is a widow to do? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>turns out the new Lord Featherington proved to be another disappointment.

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<v Speaker 2>Lady Featherington tried her best to sway things in her

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<v Speaker 2>and her daughter's favor, but Lord Featherington, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>was far from the gentlemen he made himself out to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But through her cutting intellect, Portia found a way to

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<v Speaker 2>send him back to America, narrowly avoiding another full blown scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only that, she successfully married off two of

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<v Speaker 2>her daughters. Now dearest Penelope still remains. Meanwhile, we've watched

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<v Speaker 2>as Lady Violet Bridgerton peers off her brood on the

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<v Speaker 2>marriage mart A favorite of the Ton, Violet herself set

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<v Speaker 2>an enviable example, having made a star cross love match

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<v Speaker 2>with her late husband Edmund. Since his untimely passing, her

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<v Speaker 2>garden has yet to bloom. If you get my drift.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been much more preoccupied with helping her children find love,

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<v Speaker 2>and after her great success marrying Dafning off to the Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>Violet had a bumpier time convincing Anthony to follow his heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Now after successfully settling Antony with this perfect match Kate,

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<v Speaker 2>Lady Bridgerton has only got six more children to help

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<v Speaker 2>find the same happiness. And by the way, Lady Bridgerton

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<v Speaker 2>has had to navigate her own shrif of scandals brought

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<v Speaker 2>upon her family by Colin, Antony and Eloise, But the Bridgertons,

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<v Speaker 2>they always seem to land on top. Lady Bridgerton and

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<v Speaker 2>Lady Featherington are absolutely totally two of my favorite characters

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ton. I had the opportunity to continue my

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<v Speaker 2>character chats with the amazing Julia Quinn, author of the

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<v Speaker 2>Bridgerton series. Julia and I talked about the matriarchs as

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<v Speaker 2>they were conceived in the books. What motherhood looked like

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<v Speaker 2>in the regency era and the ways readers might even

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<v Speaker 2>be smarter than writers. Okay, let's take just talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about you know, two of my favorite people

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, Lady Featherington and Lady Bridgerton. How different

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<v Speaker 2>are these two as mothers? I mean, come on, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're so different.

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<v Speaker 3>But yet oh my gosh, can we just take a

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<v Speaker 3>Polly Walker appreciation moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, just have a moment please for one of the

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<v Speaker 2>just an amazing actress and somebody who makes me both

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<v Speaker 2>shudder and love her at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, we need to take a Ruth Gemmel

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<v Speaker 3>appreciation moment too. But I think what Polly does has

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<v Speaker 3>got to be harder because I mean, we just we

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<v Speaker 3>love Violet, we just adore her, every inch of her,

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<v Speaker 3>every inch of her. But then for Lady Featherington, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you hate her half the time and yet you sympathize

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<v Speaker 3>whether she has these moments where like in season one

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<v Speaker 3>when she's talking to Marina at the end, I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, how did she do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Ugh? Oh yeah, And look, I'm just gonna say for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody what you see in season three, it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best sort of film and character journeys I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>in a really really long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just you know, when you can make a

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<v Speaker 3>character who does things that are so unkind still be

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<v Speaker 3>so sympathetic, it's brilliant, both her and the writers for

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<v Speaker 3>the show because in the book she's not nearly a

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<v Speaker 3>big as big a role. So I have to really

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<v Speaker 3>give credit to the screenwriters for, you know, the ways

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<v Speaker 3>that they have expanded her and built her out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and I think even you know, season's went into understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's diabolical, but understanding always why she's doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's that that glimpse of the relationship with her

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<v Speaker 2>husband in season one where you're just oh, this it's

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<v Speaker 2>it lies in such stark contrast, as you said, with

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<v Speaker 2>the Bridgerton's and the relationship Violet had, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>love that died that will never be again. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that that entire contrast is just It's also I think

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<v Speaker 2>for me when I look at this and I say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fascinating to me the different forms of child rearing

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<v Speaker 2>that occurred during this period of time. I mean, can

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<v Speaker 2>you speak to that some because obviously Violet's a very

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<v Speaker 2>different kind of other than Penelope Porsia.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I suspect that PSI, I suspect that there

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<v Speaker 3>weren't that many families like the Bridgertons. To be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you, I don't think that level of involvement was

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<v Speaker 3>that common there. You know a lot of people they

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<v Speaker 3>would see their kids once a day when the nannies

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<v Speaker 3>would bring them out. So that was fairly I think atypical,

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<v Speaker 3>which isn't say didn't happen, but I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>was typical for aristocratic families in that time period.

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<v Speaker 2>The Violet. One of the things which is really always

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<v Speaker 2>interesting obviously about the world is violets say, total anomaly

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<v Speaker 2>as she is for you know, wanting her children to

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<v Speaker 2>marry for love. It's interesting because they're both widows, so

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<v Speaker 2>or at least Porsha becomes a widow or we watch

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<v Speaker 2>or become a widow, and they seem to really navigate

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<v Speaker 2>the world incredibly differently. Okay, this is just a random question.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you come up with names? Because Porscha Featherington

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<v Speaker 2>is such a good name, and the fact it's Porsche.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't even remember did I name her Porsia?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 2>That maybe we did. I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody will let me know, because there are definite books

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<v Speaker 3>where I don't bother giving somebody a first name because

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<v Speaker 3>they're just lady this or that, And I'm like, I wonder,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if I could go the entire book without

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<v Speaker 3>saying what her first name is. It's kind of fun

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<v Speaker 3>for me, Like it's like a little challenge I give

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<v Speaker 3>to myself. So so I may not have, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have learned that I have a finite ability to

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<v Speaker 3>come up with names, because it turns out and apparently

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<v Speaker 3>I had a someone whistled down in my fourth book,

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<v Speaker 3>just as like a dinner party guest totally realize it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no idea. No, I mean so clearly i'd come up

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<v Speaker 3>with that once before. And where did I come with names?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, for you know, I'll do things like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know where I went once? There used to be

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<v Speaker 3>a Facebook group called I went to a proper English

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<v Speaker 3>boarding school, and I would go there and like, look

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<v Speaker 3>at the names of people who are there, because most

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<v Speaker 3>of them were they were either British or they were

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<v Speaker 3>coming from like Hong Kong, and you could usually tell

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<v Speaker 3>which was which and so you come up with these

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<v Speaker 3>you could see these more kind of traditional names. And

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<v Speaker 3>I did during my gap year. I did go to

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<v Speaker 3>a Church of England all girls boarding school, so and

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<v Speaker 3>I still have my little guidebook, I mean, like the

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<v Speaker 3>list of roster, so I can still like look at

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<v Speaker 3>names there, you know, because these would be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>very middle to upper middle class girls. I I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there were any aristocrats there. There may have been

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<v Speaker 3>people who were like tangentially involved, but they would have

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<v Speaker 3>had like come from that kind of name pool. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you know, for titles and things like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>would often just look at the addresses, like renames of

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<v Speaker 3>roads and towns and villages and houses and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, the name Featherington is so distinct. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Bridgerton and Featherington are so it's like they're so they're

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<v Speaker 2>so great, but they're so unique, you know, I mean Featherington,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hysterical.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I point out that people have ascribed to me

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<v Speaker 3>doing the easter egg of making them Featherington's because of

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<v Speaker 3>Penelope's quill And.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely was I wish I was that smart?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I tell you, Oh my gosh, I almost hit

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<v Speaker 3>the floor when Mindy Kaling, who you've probably met her

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<v Speaker 3>because you probably know everybody. But I think she's incredible. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Mindy for listening. I think you're incredible. But she tweeted

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<v Speaker 3>at one point, you know, thinking you're a Bridgerton when

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<v Speaker 3>but finding out you're really a Featherington something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, tweet like again, I'm doing what

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing where I'm like making like gestures that nobody

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<v Speaker 3>can see. But that was like incredible. You know the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that like people like know what these family names

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<v Speaker 3>mean in terms of vibes and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, yeah, no, it's it is and it

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<v Speaker 2>you really do sort of set up these patterns of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, immediately how you feel about somebody because the

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<v Speaker 2>Bridgertons have a solid name. It's a bridge. The feather Tints,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that we find feathers that dressed worthy

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to being quills. So somewhere, if I was

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<v Speaker 2>your psychiatrist, I would say, oh, I don't know something

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<v Speaker 2>about your deep subconscious apparently is projecting things.

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<v Speaker 3>You are definitely reading more into this than like I

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<v Speaker 3>ever ever planned. But okay, you can you can who

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<v Speaker 3>knows I was always the person in English class in

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<v Speaker 3>high school going like, why do you know we analyze this,

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<v Speaker 3>but why do we think the author was actually thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about any of this one like she wrote it and so,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the teacher being like, well does it matter

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<v Speaker 3>if it's how we analyze it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, yeah, I don't know, but it's where

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<v Speaker 2>you can say, like, but how these people are dead?

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<v Speaker 2>We can't even ask them. We'll be right back after

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<v Speaker 2>the shortbreak. Welcome back to Bridgerton the Official podcast. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the fun in going from book to screen is

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<v Speaker 2>expanding and adapting the blueprint of the character laid out

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<v Speaker 2>by Julia's novels. Showrunner Jess Brennell and I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>fleshing out and finding three dimensions to Violet and Portie

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<v Speaker 2>within the scripts and what these two seemingly absolutely totally

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<v Speaker 2>different mamas have in common. So when you read the books,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you take away from the books about the

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<v Speaker 2>mothers of the Ton and how do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>see these characters evolve over the course of seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll say first, when I think about the differences

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<v Speaker 4>between Lady Bridgerton and Lady Featherington, I actually think that

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<v Speaker 4>they have more in common than they do differences. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they both are so devoted to their families. They would

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<v Speaker 4>do anything for their kids. Lady Featherington just has had

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more bad luck than Violet. She had a

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<v Speaker 4>loveless marriage, she's had financial woes, and she probably never

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<v Speaker 4>had a good example of what love looks like if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm guessing. So, she loves her children I think, just

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<v Speaker 4>as much as Violet, but maybe doesn't know how to

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<v Speaker 4>show it. Whereas Violet, who you know, had the love

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<v Speaker 4>of her father, she knows what it's like to receive

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<v Speaker 4>love and to give love. So in terms of evolution

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<v Speaker 4>for the characters, I would love to see Lady Featherington

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<v Speaker 4>find a way to express that affection and love that

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<v Speaker 4>she has for all of her daughters, but especially Penelope,

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<v Speaker 4>in a more direct way. And you know, for Violet,

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<v Speaker 4>I would also like to see her allow maybe some

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<v Speaker 4>love into her life again that isn't just the love

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<v Speaker 4>of her children, because you know, she's so self sacrificing,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think she deserves to put herself first for once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think, you know, going back to Lady

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<v Speaker 2>Featherington for a second. Two Look, I look at that

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<v Speaker 2>and she didn't have an inheritance. She never got like

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<v Speaker 2>a step up. She from what I can tell from

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<v Speaker 2>season one, that was not an ideal marriage. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>created a whole load of problems. They're heading towards being,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, broke, And people say, oh, she's conniving and terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think in a way in regency world, she's

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<v Speaker 2>just resourceful because she has to figure out ways of being.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, she's a social climber because she needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be a social climber. It's not and if you even

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<v Speaker 2>want to call what she does climbing, it's just be

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<v Speaker 2>included to a large degree, you know. And it is

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of market contrast with Violet. The flip side

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<v Speaker 2>for Violet is she did have the perfect love and

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<v Speaker 2>she did. She has involved, and I think engaged all

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<v Speaker 2>of her efforts and emotions in raising her children and

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that they are well taken care of. So

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<v Speaker 2>watching her get to a place where, I mean, eventually

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<v Speaker 2>the kids will be out of the house, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to take while we have a lot of children, y'all, soo,

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<v Speaker 2>but you do sort of feel like she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to get to a place where she she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>she does something besides worry about two's going to get

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<v Speaker 2>married and how this is going to work and that

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<v Speaker 2>they get married for love, because that's also a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of responsibility, this getting married for love thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, she's going to have to pick up more

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<v Speaker 4>than just like a pottery hobby, you know, the last years. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's going to be enough to

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<v Speaker 4>get her through. Her entire meaning in life is about

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<v Speaker 4>her kids, and I think it's going to be tough.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, on the Lady Featherington comparison, who's to

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<v Speaker 4>say if Violet had the same financial woes that Lady

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<v Speaker 4>Featherington had, she wouldn't start like a fake gem mind

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<v Speaker 4>scam with her cousin.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's totally possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, and I know, I know we saw in Queen Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 2>If you all have seen Queen Charlotte, it's Lady Danbury

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to help Violet get along with her life.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, there's there's some heavy stuff that's happened between

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<v Speaker 2>the two of them, which everybody deals with with either

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<v Speaker 2>strong SIPs of unknown liquor or tea. And I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it sort of opens the door to what is

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<v Speaker 2>what does Violet really think about everything?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Which I think is also where where is her head at?

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<v Speaker 2>And and I think I think I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>more of Lady Danberry and Violet too, because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a relationship that we've dug into sort of superficially.

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<v Speaker 2>But Queen Charlotte, then we got a whole nother layer

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<v Speaker 2>in there, and we are further to go there. The

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I feel like we got in Queen Charlotte

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<v Speaker 2>was this idea that there's a lot of there's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit unfinness business between Lady Danbury and Lady Bridgerton,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like we've had in the past couple

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<v Speaker 2>of seasons we sort of scraped the surface on their relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been very it's busy. Mama's trying to get the

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<v Speaker 2>marriages working and the conniving in season one of making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that Simon behaved, and then you know, season two,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the sort of it's helping her navigate, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>sticking her bigfoot, Lady Danbury's big foot in the Edwina

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<v Speaker 2>Kate situation, going Edwena's right for for Anthony, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>sort of progressing. But I think Queen Charlotte's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like up for obvious reasons for all of you who

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<v Speaker 2>saw it burst open this world, I think I'm just excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything to say about like season three

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<v Speaker 2>and where you think that relationship's going to go or

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<v Speaker 2>what you're excited to see.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, first of all, I'm really grateful to Shonda

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<v Speaker 4>for the backstory of their relationship on Queen Charlotte because

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<v Speaker 4>it gives us so much more depth between those two women.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in seasons one and two, like it made

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<v Speaker 4>sense why Lady Danberry was so involved in season one

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<v Speaker 4>because she has that connection to Simon. In season two

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<v Speaker 4>she also had a connection to the Sharmas. But when

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<v Speaker 4>we got to season three, we were going she always

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<v Speaker 4>ends up involved in a Bridgerton relationship. What reason are

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<v Speaker 4>we going to create this year? And it's no, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to manufacture anything. There is this real depth

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<v Speaker 4>between these two women, between these two families, and Lady

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<v Speaker 4>Danberry has a real reason for her connection to the Bridgertons.

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<v Speaker 4>So knowing that allowed us to go a lot deeper

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<v Speaker 4>with them in this upcoming season and we're continuing on

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, in a small way, from the spin

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<v Speaker 4>off to look further under the hood and focus not

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<v Speaker 4>only on their relationship in terms of meddling and scheming

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<v Speaker 4>with the kids, but what do they actually mean to

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<v Speaker 4>each other and why is something that we will be

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<v Speaker 4>poking at even further.

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<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, I can, I can hardly wait. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>so funny together.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, every time I'm on set with Adua,

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<v Speaker 4>I just tell her I go master class, masterclass, and Ruth, like,

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<v Speaker 4>Ruth brings so much humor to lines that I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>realize were funny, just these minute expressions on her face.

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<v Speaker 4>She's They're both incredible to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and I I mean, I can watch Lady

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<v Speaker 2>Danbury read a whistle down for like six hours, just

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<v Speaker 2>the same shot. It's it's it's all good to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all good. So in the business called show, there's

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<v Speaker 2>an old adage that ninety percent of directing is casting. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say Bridgarton requires a whole lot from every department truly,

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<v Speaker 2>but our cast is constantly wowing us with their brilliance.

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<v Speaker 2>Polly Walker, who plays Porsche, and Ruth Gemmel, who plays Violet,

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<v Speaker 2>are absolutely no exception to that fact. These women are

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<v Speaker 2>such incredible actresses. They are capable of stealing a scene

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<v Speaker 2>with just a look. Here's a peek into Polly and

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<v Speaker 2>Ruth's thoughts on the complex and fascinating women they portray.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Lady Featherington herself, Polly.

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<v Speaker 6>I always get slightly hurt on Porsche's behalf when people go,

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<v Speaker 6>oh my god, she's so horrible and she's so mean,

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<v Speaker 6>and she's so pushy, and she's such a terrible mother.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think I totally disagree. I think that she's

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<v Speaker 6>a very good mother. It wasn't the era of her

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<v Speaker 6>sentiments and for talking through one's feelings. You know, her

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<v Speaker 6>role was to get her daughters married in the best

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<v Speaker 6>way possible, and she accomplishes it with very with no

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<v Speaker 6>help from anyone. Actually that's not true. She has help

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<v Speaker 6>from Valley, her and Penelope. You know, they've been on

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<v Speaker 6>a journey in their relationship, for sure. I mean she

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<v Speaker 6>certainly kind of overlooked her, and you know, imagine that

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<v Speaker 6>she would never marry and she'd just be her little

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<v Speaker 6>companion through life and with her books, which she would

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't understand why anyone would want to read a book,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know she'll be with her and she'll keep

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<v Speaker 6>her company. So I think she underestimated Penelope massively, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>but Penelope was a dark horse and kept things hidden.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the divine Lady Bridgerton Ruth Well.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess where we left off was Queen Charlotte, and

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<v Speaker 5>it became very obvious that having witnessed two of her

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<v Speaker 5>children fall in love and be happy. I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>really resonated with her how much she misses her husband,

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<v Speaker 5>how much she misses that intimacy, And with her great

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<v Speaker 5>friend Lady Danbury. I think they realize that it's time

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<v Speaker 5>that she sort of steps back into society. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>where we meet her. They've already she's already kind of

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<v Speaker 5>announced to Lady Danbury if you like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>she'd like to see a bit of life again. Really,

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<v Speaker 5>So that's where we are. And you know, also there

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<v Speaker 5>is the usual thing of I have another child out

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<v Speaker 5>in society, and I never stop with my intent on

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<v Speaker 5>marrying them all off. I always go back to and

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<v Speaker 5>dip in and out of the books. And I know

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<v Speaker 5>we're very different. We've sort of taken storylines in slightly

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<v Speaker 5>different ways now, and so going back to the books

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<v Speaker 5>is helpful. And unhelpful. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 5>I've always loved in the books is that she makes

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<v Speaker 5>all her children dance with Penelope. She keeps sort of

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<v Speaker 5>bringing her in the fold, and I absolutely think she

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<v Speaker 5>knows where this is heading. I mean, she's one of

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<v Speaker 5>these women who just understands her children better than the

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<v Speaker 5>children do.

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<v Speaker 4>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much to my special guest Ruth Gemel,

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<v Speaker 2>Polly Walker, Jess Brownell, and Julia Quinn. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Betsy Beers, and thank you for listening to Inside the Time.

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