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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three

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Speaker 1: and today we're back with another fresh radio focused episode

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Speaker 1: in which we are hearing from deer hunters all across

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Speaker 1: the country on current deer activity conditions, behaviors, and the

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Speaker 1: tactics that are working right now. All right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X.

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Speaker 1: We're here for a mid November edition of RUT Fresh

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Speaker 1: Radio in which we are getting updates from across the

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Speaker 1: country on deer activity, conditions, behavior, what's happening right now?

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Speaker 1: And Spencer, what's happening right now is that you killed buck. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: my friend, thank you, thank you. Um and I can

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Speaker 1: already tell there's a little bit more energy in this

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Speaker 1: intro by you, Mark, because you also killed the buck. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: we both did it. We finally got the job done. UM.

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Speaker 1: I can't give too many details away because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: share the whole story on the next episode of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: the full episode. But yeah, I killed the buck. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you. It was on the Back forty. We

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Speaker 1: had a great rutt hunt out there, so excited to

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Speaker 1: share that story. And while we're talking back forty, I'll

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Speaker 1: just plug it right now. The first episode of season

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Speaker 1: two of The Back forty just dropped over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: So go over to the Meat Eater YouTube channel check

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Speaker 1: it out. Uh, we're getting good feedback on so far.

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Speaker 1: I'm really happy how things have turned out. And um,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna give you this episode. If you watch it,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you some great background as to you what

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Speaker 1: led to some of the success that I just recently had.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you check that out before listening to

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Speaker 1: our next episode of the podcast because it will give

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Speaker 1: you some nice context. So yeah, I want more details

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Speaker 1: on it though, like um, or episodes every Sunday? Is

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Speaker 1: that correct? And like when do the episodes with hunting start?

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. Thank you, Spencer, You're always on

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Speaker 1: top of it. Um. Yes, the new episodes will be

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Speaker 1: coming out every Sunday from now on through the next

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Speaker 1: two months or so a month and a half or so,

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Speaker 1: I guess. So yeah, this coming Sunday will be another

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Speaker 1: episode and we're gonna have uh, several episodes of prep.

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Speaker 1: So we've got an episode that's all about some of

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Speaker 1: the new habit at work we did this summer. There's

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Speaker 1: another episode about all the hunting preparations we did and

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Speaker 1: some of the strategy behind why we're hunting, where we're hunting,

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Speaker 1: how we're hunting. Uh. And then you're gonna see an

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Speaker 1: episode with my dad. My dad and I had a

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Speaker 1: really cool hunt out there, and as we talked about

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Speaker 1: on a previous episode of the show, he killed his

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Speaker 1: first deer with arshow equipment, his biggest buck ever. Then

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see our rut hunt after that, um, and

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Speaker 1: then one more or two more possibly later in the year.

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Speaker 1: So lots to look forward to and uh so far

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Speaker 1: shaped up to be a really a really cool season

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Speaker 1: Digging Mark already loved episode one and I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to the rest to come. UM, So thanks man. Like,

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Speaker 1: what details can you share so far about the deer

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Speaker 1: that you killed on the back forty? Well, how about

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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you about the dear activity on the

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Speaker 1: back forty which, um, over the last week while we

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Speaker 1: We're dealing with um. And so as we discussed the

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Speaker 1: what we experienced. We saw good activity the first couple

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Speaker 1: I might maybe I'm jumping the gun here, Spencer, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a prediction for the next seven days.

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Speaker 1: That's something that's happened this weekend. Yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: felt like a lightbulb moment this year for just like

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Speaker 1: so so is that what triggered your success? Well, I

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Speaker 1: UM and I was unsuccessful for the first um every

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Speaker 1: makes a big difference. I was bow hunting for the

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Speaker 1: majority of that trip UM, and then the last two

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Speaker 1: see a ton of like textbook rutting activity during that

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Speaker 1: and this is ultimately what really matters, is that bucks

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Speaker 1: look forward to, Spencer, Um, We're coming into a new

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Speaker 1: that some people like to refer to as the lockdown? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: great job of of summing up my thoughts as well.

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Speaker 1: But Mark, I'd like to hear you talk about Lockdown

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Speaker 1: a little bit, or what hunters referred to as lockdown

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Speaker 1: bit of both. Um. Basically, it's it's a fancy name

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Speaker 1: it's the lockdown. Let's all go hang out in our

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Speaker 1: There's still gonna be stuff going on. Um, So you

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Speaker 1: be some of the hottest stuff in my opinion, just

432
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 1: because we have we've had that hot weather leading up

433
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: to this, that hot still consistent weather, and now right

434
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: now there's that cold friends coming in. It's raining all day,

435
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: and this next seven days looks like it's going to

436
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: be some pretty awesome stuff. So I'm really looking forward

437
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: to seeing if I'm right about that. But I would

438
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: say right around and nine if I had to guess. Alright,

439
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: Keith would like your optimism. Good luck to even the

440
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: guys from the hunting public. Thanks for joining me, Thank

441
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: you very much, you too, alright, and joining us online.

442
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: Next is Mike on Sucker from Heartland bow hunter in Colorado. Now,

443
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: Mike in Colorado, what would you say the buck activity

444
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten, Oh, man,

445
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: I probably had to say it's been probably uh seven,

446
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: six or seven. Yeah, I mean, um, you know, the

447
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: rest dranking up and and the deer are definitely seeking,

448
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: but it's been it's been kind of knocked back by

449
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: some warmer weather, um lately and uh, you know, so

450
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: the fortunately it cools off in the evenings of the morning.

451
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, overnights of the mornings have been a little

452
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: more productive, but the evenings have been kind of basically

453
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: the last you know, thirty minutes utes an hour movement.

454
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: You tagged an awesome buck this last weekend. Tell us

455
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: about that set up and about that hunt. So, yeah,

456
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: it was. It was a pretty pretty awesome hunt. We're hunting, um,

457
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, basically river bottom ground, so nothing but cotton

458
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: woods and that's about it. And so we actually had

459
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: set up on a fence gap um, on the edge

460
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: of a ag pivot and a bunch of cover to

461
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: our to our south, food to our north, and um,

462
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those deals we had been

463
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: running cameras all along the levee to the river and

464
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: just kind of monitoring movement, trying to see what areas

465
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: bucks were using the most. Obviously it's the rout, so

466
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: they're not crazy patternable, but um, we got got a

467
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: big buck on trail camera the night before, so we

468
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: decided to hang a set and hunt that fence gap.

469
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: And wouldn't you know it, Uh, the sun started to

470
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: go down. I looked over my shoulder back behind me,

471
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: kind of not where I was expecting the deer to

472
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: come from, and I saw a doe. She's running across

473
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: the field and I was like, okay, we've seen this before. Uh,

474
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, just lait and waiting and all of a sudden, boom,

475
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Mary pops out and just worked out perfect. He was

476
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: on the one side of the fence, she was on

477
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: the other, and we were on the fence gap. So

478
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: he came literally right right into our laps at like

479
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: ten yards and uh, I was able to make a

480
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: make a perfect shot and watch him crash and he

481
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: didn't go probably fifty six yards. I know you're a

482
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: big fan of decoy during pre rut and peak. Rutt

483
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: tell us about those setups and how you use a

484
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: decoy in mid November. Absolutely, Yeah. I get's been getting

485
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: a ton of questions lately about decoys specifically, And yeah,

486
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if the ruts going in any sort of capacity,

487
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a a good viable option. And UM.

488
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: I actually was utilizing the decoy quite a bit in Colorado. UM,

489
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: just because it's open terrain, and that's one of my

490
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 1: favorite places to use a decoys where you know, the

491
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: odds of a buck seeing is high. So I don't

492
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: like to use them in tight, tight, thick, you know,

493
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: high cover, tense areas. UM. I use them in open areas,

494
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: typically in areas where you can blind call without deer,

495
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, sneaking in, getting behind you, winning you easily.

496
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: In mid November, What is your ideal rut set up

497
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: like when you go and hit the woods tonight in Missouri?

498
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: What is that going to look like for you tonight?

499
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sitting over a food source. Um that

500
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: it's it's a green food plot. Um, surrounded by a good,

501
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: good cover, really secluded plot. Um. There's betting not not

502
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: too far. The deer aren't really utilizing the plot that much.

503
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: I mean those if they go there they're getting harassed

504
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: by bucks. But it's one of those areas that if

505
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: a buck doesn't already have a dough, um, that he

506
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: might be you know, checking and frequenting just to see

507
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: if you can pick one up. Have you noticed an

508
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: increase or decrease in signmaking over the last week? You know,

509
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: I haven't um noticed specifically, but I can imagine, um,

510
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: you know, as the rug gets you know, towards the peak,

511
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're not going to be just frequenting

512
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: those scrapes as much. I wouldn't think, um, as they

513
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: get you know, most of them get with those are

514
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of isolated and pull trying to pull those away

515
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: from the highly concentrated areas. But um, but I haven't

516
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: specifically noticed noticing things. But I just know typically the

517
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: time of your scrape activities start to be on the

518
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: decline as gun seasons start opening across the Midwest. What

519
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: is a strategy when you're still bow hunting during a

520
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: gun season, Like, what sorts of setups are you doing?

521
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: How is it different that when there's not that gone pressure. Yeah, yeah,

522
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: dear definitely seek uh seek, you know for shelter. Once

523
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: the Orange Army gets out into the woods and so, um,

524
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: you may find better success sticking tighter to bedding areas,

525
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: tighter to cover areas. They're not going to be you know, comfortable,

526
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, running through wide open fields and chasing deer.

527
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's still the rud so they'll still

528
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: do they'll still be crazy things, but um, yeah, you

529
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: may have to be get a little tighter to cover

530
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: and getting some of those spots that maybe you know

531
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: better for those all day type sits going forward. Then

532
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: in the six week or so, what do you think

533
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: that bucket TV is going to be on a scale

534
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: of one to ten in Colorado? Man, uh, in Colorado

535
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: and pretty much anywhere across the Midwest. I think this

536
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 1: whole cold fronts come through and boom, just flip the switch.

537
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the weather, the warmer rather anything going

538
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: to stop the rut from happening. But when the re

539
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: the weather is right and it's time with the peak

540
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: of the rats, it's hard to beat. So we're already

541
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: seeing that through you know, cell cams and and whatnot

542
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: here Missouri. Just see the activity instantly picked up the

543
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: yesterday as the temperature dropping. The cold front came through,

544
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: So it pushed through Colorado the day before, and uh,

545
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: my buddies out there are seeing great buck activity as well.

546
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: And um, actually almost got another one killed yesterday, So

547
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: it's a good thing, a better time to get out there,

548
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: all right, Mike, Well, congrats again on the great deer,

549
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks

550
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: for joining me. Thank you alright and joining us online.

551
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Next is Vince Bodiana from Tennessee. Now, Vince in Tennessee,

552
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity is ben lately?

553
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten? Uh lately, I

554
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: would say the activity is probably right around of six,

555
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: maybe a six and a half, depending on where you are. Um,

556
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: I've started to see a lot of mature buck start

557
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: to pop up in daylight, Um, somewhere around the time

558
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: between you know, anywhere from twelve to five. So I'd

559
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: probably give about a six six and a half for

560
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: the timing of Tennessee's rott. Do you think it's closer

561
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: to states above you, like Ohio and Kentucky or state

562
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: south of you, like Alabama and Georgia. I would say

563
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: it's probably more for the states below me. I actually

564
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: just had a conversation with another gentleman about that, and

565
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: what what we've noticed is run in that last week

566
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: in November into the first week of December is usually

567
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: when I've typically seen the most running activity here in Tennessee.

568
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: What are you seeing for signmaking right now? The biggest

569
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: thing right now that I've started to see is a

570
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: lot of scrape making, um, and then routine checking. I

571
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: feel like, um, you know, I have a lot of

572
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: my cameras on scrapes currently, and I just feel like

573
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: they're hitting them NonStop and routinely checking them daily. Um.

574
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, you know, I have getting a

575
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: lot of daylight at two, Um, starting to see some

576
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, you see some still good rubs and stuff.

577
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: But whatever reason, they're they're hitting the scrapes hard. So

578
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: what phase of the rut would you say that most

579
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: of the the Tennessee is in right now? I would say

580
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: it's probably it's it's getting close to the rut. I

581
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: would say we're still probably in the pre rut phase. Um.

582
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: But like I said once, that last week in November

583
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: hits it's gonna it's gonna crank up pretty hot. Do

584
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: you do any calling or decoing in Tennessee. I don't

585
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: do any d coining. I do do some calling, um,

586
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: not so much on the rattling side um, you know,

587
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: and it's nothing like the like how you would be

588
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: out Midwest or Iowa or anything like that. I try

589
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: to stay more towards the light side of calling a

590
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: little bit um. I've just seen the word if you

591
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: try to get on too aggressive, they just I don't know,

592
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: it just seems like they're just they're not they don't

593
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: want to partake in the game. And if you kind

594
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: of just do it a little lightly, they're they're more

595
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: a little more interested. As we approach peak RUTT in Tennessee,

596
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: what's your ideal rutt set up? Ideal rut set up,

597
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to set up mostly on the fringe

598
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: of doe betting areas, um. And that's really the strategy

599
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: is just if I feel like if I'm on the

600
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: outside of doe betting areas, there's going to be a

601
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: concentration of the majority of of deer. If there's a

602
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: lot of dose there, the bucks are going to be there.

603
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Now where they're going to be, you know, that's always

604
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: a game during that time, But I feel like that's

605
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: probably going to be the strategy that I'm gonna go with.

606
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: What should hunters in Tennessee be focused on as far

607
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: as food sources. Food sources, I would probably say if

608
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: if you have something that that has a lot of acorns,

609
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, go go hit with the acorns. If you

610
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: have any left standing corn, you know, anything like that. Um.

611
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: And then as soon as we start approaching into you know,

612
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: later in the year, into December, you know, the green

613
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: stuff going forward. Then in the next week or so,

614
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to

615
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Tennessee.

616
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and give it a seven a

617
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: half to eight. And that's only because we've had that

618
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a warm spell, and I think a

619
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: lot of people have. But going into this next week,

620
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: it's not going to drop a lot, but it is

621
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit of a cooler spell.

622
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: Uh I. Just for the time of year, in the phase,

623
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I think that's that's probably gonna kick it off. So alright, Vince,

624
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks

625
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: for joining me, al buddy, thank you, Spencer. Alright, and

626
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: joining us on the line next is Dan Johnson from

627
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: nine fingers chronicles in Iowa. Now, Dan in Iowa, what

628
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity is ben lately on

629
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. Well, for me, Um,

630
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: I tagged out before this cold front hit, So before

631
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: this cold front UM hit, I would say that the act,

632
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: the buck movement, the activities during that warm weather period

633
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: was really close to like a six. I mean, there

634
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: was a lot of young deer on their feet, they

635
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: were moving around, they were checking scrapes, and even some

636
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: big dogs coming off of their first dough. We're on

637
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: the move, But most of the movement was still in

638
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: that morning and evening time frame. Now, but the reports

639
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: that I've gotten today so far, after this cold front

640
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: has come through, that's changed that the deer are moving

641
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: there on their feet. My cell cams are blowing up,

642
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: and it looks like that really triggered a little bit

643
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: more more movement. So I would say probably closer to

644
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: that eight. That's a slammerbuck you killed in Iowa. Tell

645
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: us about that set up and about that hunt. Yeah.

646
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: So you know, my grandpa always used to say, even

647
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: the sun shines on a dog's ass, meaning you know

648
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: it's okay. Everybody gets lucky once in a while, and

649
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I got lucky. I parked

650
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: my truck next to a pond, and next to this

651
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: pond was a big block of really thick timber. And

652
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: I was on the ground walking to where I was

653
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: going to hang my tree stand that night, and I

654
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: noticed some antlers coming up and uh, I shot him

655
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: from the ground at twenty five yards walking to where

656
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna go. But where I was going to

657
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: go was this little transition area that's really thick and

658
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: typically holds a lot of doughs before they you know,

659
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: they kind of bed there, but they also staged there

660
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: before they head out to the big egg fields, So

661
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: it was it was just kind of downwind of a

662
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: good staging or betting area. You said, your cell cams

663
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: have been blowing up today. If you were to hit

664
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: the woods today November eleven, what would your ideal set

665
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: up be. I'm going to where the does are, man.

666
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm going as tight to bedding with the best possible

667
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: access as I can. Like I said, Man, this cold

668
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: front just came through Iowa and it's one of those

669
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: blue bird days out and it's cold. Now the deer

670
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: are going to be moving uh, and so you find

671
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: the dough groups and that's where you find the bucks

672
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: and maybe even even some of us really unorthodox spots

673
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: where maybe a big buck maybe I was pushed the

674
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: dough that they're trying to breed and uh or looking

675
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: for some of these spots where some of these bucks

676
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: have just came off one of their first possibly second

677
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: dough and they're looking for that next one to breed.

678
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: So I'm getting as close to betting as possible. What

679
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: have you seen for signmaking in the last week or so? Yeah, man,

680
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: that's a real good question, because the sign activity from

681
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: this this early, this first couple of days of October

682
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: and the last couple of days or the first first

683
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: couple of days in November, last couple of days of

684
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: October when the scraping really starts to increase. My my

685
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: scrapes have really kind of dried up, not necessarily all

686
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: the way, but they're still you know, once a deer

687
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: is passing by, he's not going out of his way

688
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: to lay sign anymore unless he's right there. So I'm

689
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: finding the active sign near the betting areas. We're coming

690
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: into a phase of the rut that a lot of

691
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: the hunters identify as lockdown. Do you put any stock

692
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: into the lockdown phases? That's something that you care about

693
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: when you're getting into the woods in mid November. Yeah, dude,

694
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: it's the rut. I mean this, this lockdown phase is

695
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: almost trickery to a hunter's brain. You know, it's like, well,

696
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: it's lockdown, so I better stay out. It's ridiculous, just

697
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: like the October lowell the deer or they're they're doing

698
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: something and you need to get into your best stance.

699
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: You need to have your access still needs to be great.

700
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: You need to follow the wind direction, and you need

701
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: to get into the pinch points, into those travel corridors,

702
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: into those staging areas, into those betting areas, and hunt right.

703
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: Lockdown is only good if you're hunting one specific buck,

704
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: because there's a whole bunch of other bucks out there

705
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: that are aren't breeding and they are looking for deer.

706
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: So don't worry about any type of lockdown faith As

707
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: we approach peak rut. Do you care about food sources

708
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: at all on the state like Iowa? I mean, there's

709
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: food all over, so it's never really a concern. I mean,

710
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: it's never really a big point of interest unless I'm

711
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: doing some October one tip hunting. So the only time

712
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I really focus on food is early season, in late

713
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: season right now, again, just like broken record man, get

714
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: into the betting areas, get into the travel corridors, those

715
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: terrain features that hold deer, because do you're going to

716
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: come through them at some point in the day, find

717
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: the does, find what they're doing. Set up almost like

718
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: you're hunting does, and you're gonna you're gonna find the

719
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: box man going forward. Then in this next week or so,

720
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: what do you think that BUCKETTT is going to be

721
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Iowa? So

722
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: based off historical data from trail cameras and from my experience,

723
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna slow down. But because you know a majority

724
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: of the does by the end of next week are

725
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: going to start, you know, they're gonna be bread. But

726
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: the big dogs, the mature bucks, the you know in Iowa,

727
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: the four or five, six, seven year olds, they're gonna

728
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: be on their feet. And there's this time frame when

729
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: there's still maybe a handful of doughs that are are

730
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: coming into heat where the biggest mature bucks are gonna

731
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: be zombies and they're gonna be walking all over the

732
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: place looking for that last dough before they stop running

733
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: all together. The activity level between one and ten is

734
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: probably gonna go down to a five, but you're gonna

735
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: have your best chance of connecting on a big mature cruiser.

736
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, great intel, Congrats again on the buck,

737
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining me, absolutely man, And that concludes

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Speaker 1: this week's episode of rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Keith,

739
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Michael Vince and Dan for joining me, and thank you

740
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: guys for listening. As you heard Dan say in our

741
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: last call there, don't put too much stock into the

742
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: lockdown phase. Um, mid November is still an amazing time

743
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: to be in the woods, so I hope you get

744
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: a chance to get out and take advantage of it

745
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,960
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