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Speaker 1: Comedy saved me.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's why you're doing what you're doing. How

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Speaker 2: comedy saved me. It saved me so many times. It

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Speaker 2: saved me from depression. It got me through dental school.

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Speaker 2: I used to draw on my walls. They treated me

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Speaker 2: so badly that I get to talk about that now

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Speaker 2: at dental conferences. They want to hear my story because

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Speaker 2: they tortured me in dental school. I was banned from

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Speaker 2: school because I grew a mustache.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of Comedy Saved Me. I'm your host,

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Speaker 3: Lynn Hoffman, here to explore the power of laughter in

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Speaker 3: overcoming life's challenges and shining a light on the moments

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Speaker 3: when humor.

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Speaker 1: Truly saves us.

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Speaker 3: Each week, we dive into meaningful conversations with comedians, storytellers,

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Speaker 3: and creative minds who remind us that even when times

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Speaker 3: are tough, there's always something we can find to smile about. Today,

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Speaker 3: we are joined by the multifaceted comedian, author healer Jeffrey Gurian.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited to even say this with a remark.

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Speaker 3: Journey from dentistry to stand up stages and decades spent

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Speaker 3: chronicling the world's funniest people, which you can see anytime

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Speaker 3: you want on his Comedy Matters TV show. Jeffrey's life

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Speaker 3: is a true testament to the healing power of humor. Together,

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Speaker 3: we'll delve into this inspiring story uncover lessons laughter has

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Speaker 3: taught him. No matter what we're up against, comedy can

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Speaker 3: help us all find hope.

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Speaker 1: That is the message of this show.

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Speaker 3: And I'm so excited to welcome doctor Jeffrey Gurian, Yes,

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Speaker 3: a real doctor and comedian to Comedy Save Me.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey, Welcome, Thanks so much, Lyne.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing with an introduction like that,

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Speaker 2: I better be good.

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Speaker 1: You better be goot.

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Speaker 3: No, Honestly, I wanted to start off by saying that

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Speaker 3: I watched this beautiful documentary. I'm in the middle of

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Speaker 3: producing a documentary with some friends of mine and so

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Speaker 3: I know what work goes into them. And your documentary

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Speaker 3: called who the Fuck Is Jeffrey Gurian? And I love

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Speaker 3: being able to say that because that's really the title,

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Speaker 3: although it just says f but you know, when can

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Speaker 3: you do that publicly? It was just such a beautiful documentary,

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Speaker 3: and I wanted to say congratulations on that and everything

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Speaker 3: in your life and career because it seems as though

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Speaker 3: the seeds that you planted have have come back to

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Speaker 3: root in all these beautiful ways. So I would like

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Speaker 3: to implore everyone listening right now, when this show is done,

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Speaker 3: just go check this show out.

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Speaker 1: The documentary.

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Speaker 3: It's I don't know how they did it, but in

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes ish they put quite a beautiful story together.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for saying that. You know, when

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Speaker 2: I watch it, it actually it brings tears to my eyes.

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Speaker 2: It's a very big honor for somebody to do something

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Speaker 2: like that about you. And how it came about. This

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Speaker 2: young filmmaker contacted me and he said, you have an

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Speaker 2: interesting story and would you be open to me doing

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Speaker 2: a doc about you? And I agreed to meet with him.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a big risk when you do that.

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Speaker 2: You never know how you're going to be portrayed. People

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Speaker 2: can make you look really weird and stuff. And anyway,

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Speaker 2: I met with the guy and I had a sense

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Speaker 2: of trust, which is why I opened my life to him.

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Speaker 2: It's a very odd thing to see your whole life

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Speaker 2: unfurl in a film on the screen, you know, starting

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Speaker 2: from when I was a child. Footage that he had

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Speaker 2: of me playing the piano, and you know, from when

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Speaker 2: he did. You know, I didn't find any fault with it.

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Speaker 2: It was very heartwarming to me. And as I said,

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Speaker 2: when I watch it, it brings tears to my eyes.

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Speaker 2: The music, the whole thing is it was really very masterful.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 3: And it brought tears to my eyes too, and I

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Speaker 3: do believe it will for anyone who watch.

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Speaker 1: It's homework.

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Speaker 3: If you're listening to this podcast, that is homework for

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Speaker 3: you to go watch that for no other reason than

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Speaker 3: to discover a wonderful human being on this planet.

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Speaker 1: And very funny too.

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Speaker 2: Don't find it. And it led to something possibly very

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Speaker 2: very big, even bigger than that. I'll just say that

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Speaker 2: of comedy, he just signed on to produce this a

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Speaker 2: it's a progrem it's a special thing about me. As

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Speaker 2: a result of that documentary, it's in the process. They're

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Speaker 2: pitching it to networks. But a production company saw it

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Speaker 2: he saw it, he said, I want to produce this.

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Speaker 2: His words were, I would do it for free, and

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Speaker 2: But his production company is behind it and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be Dale Hugley presents Jeffrey Gurian Wow something. But

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Speaker 2: it's as a result of that doc. So you never

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Speaker 2: know what happens in life, you know.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't.

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Speaker 3: Can you share a little bit with our congratulations? Wow,

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Speaker 3: that is really big news, and even more on top

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Speaker 3: the show, which is equally as exciting. Well, we'll definitely

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Speaker 3: get to but before we do, can you just share

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Speaker 3: with our listeners a little bit about how you found

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Speaker 3: your way into the world of comedy, especially because, as

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Speaker 3: I mentioned upfront, you were going to be a dentist

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Speaker 2: Are a dentists A nasty rumor that started the day

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Speaker 2: I'm an EmPATH. I feel things more deeply than I

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Speaker 2: And for some reason, that's become my whole life. I

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Speaker 2: My first happiness book, I don't know if you saw it.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, do you think can I

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Speaker 2: I don't mean that in an egotistical way, but people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I only want to support people. That's what I

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Speaker 1: Such a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: What I mean, what was the first moment that you

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm on the bord of this group called Laugh

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Speaker 2: you know, And as an EmPATH, it was very hard

436
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: for me to see people that were so ill. And

437
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: I performed and I made them laugh, and it was

438
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Speaker 2: a great feeling. It was a wonderful gift that you

439
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: can you know, laughter, it's not just the cliche that

440
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: laughter is the best medicine. It's so important. It releases endorphins,

441
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: it changes your whole moved, you know. I realized that

442
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: when I got started from Saturday Night Live. Can I

443
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: tell you that story, because that's a crazy story.

444
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Speaker 3: Please tell me about that story, and then I'm gonna

445
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you my notes that I got from

446
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Speaker 3: your from Just go ahead, tell me the story.

447
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you Saturday Night Live comes out. I'm making

448
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: films on the street, you know, super eight with my

449
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: super eight camera, and they're like kind of crazy kind

450
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: of films, like false news items like several men were arrested,

451
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Speaker 2: the smearing cream cheese on the ankles of elderly women

452
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Speaker 2: who were their stockings rolled down like bagels. You ever

453
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: see the old women with the stockings around their act.

454
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: It looked like bagels to me. So I went to

455
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Speaker 2: my dear grandmother. I had two grandmothers. One had a

456
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Speaker 2: great sense of humor. She and her husband owned a

457
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Speaker 2: nightclub growing up, and she had a great sense of humor,

458
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Speaker 2: and she made believe she had a Jewish accent. I

459
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: was so sick. She let me put cream cheese on

460
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Speaker 2: her ankles on my own grandmother, I put cream chrees

461
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Speaker 2: on her angle, and she says, you know, in the

462
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Speaker 2: Jewish religion, we have two kinds of stockings, one for

463
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Speaker 2: milk and one for me. She goes, and this crazy

464
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Speaker 2: man he smears cream cheese on my meat stockings and

465
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Speaker 2: I can't get it off, and I hit the camera

466
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Speaker 2: on the ankles with cream cheese. And I was doing

467
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Speaker 2: like stories, like like two master criminals who disguise themselves

468
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Speaker 2: as inanimate objects to commit their crimes. So it starts

469
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Speaker 2: with two men disguised as coats rob a hat store.

470
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Speaker 2: They come over too. They cut in over the arms

471
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Speaker 2: of two other men and they say, just that natural,

472
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: like where your coats and nobody will get hurt, right,

473
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Speaker 2: I love it. Two men disguise a pair of eyeglasses

474
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Speaker 2: rob a local optometrist. They come in on another man's

475
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Speaker 2: face and I had to beat the guy. I interview

476
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Speaker 2: the victim of the crime and he says, I don't

477
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Speaker 2: know what's going on here. I'm walking into this aptometrist

478
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Speaker 2: to get my glasses adjusted, another pair of glasses jumps

479
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: onto my face and whispers into my ear just that natural,

480
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: like where your glasses and nobody will get hurt. What's

481
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: the city coming to? So I make these films and

482
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Speaker 2: I say, I got to get up to Saturday Night Live.

483
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Speaker 2: So the same way I met Woody Allen. I had

484
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: a lot of balls in those days. I couldn't do

485
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Speaker 2: it now what I did then. I'm driving a pimpmobile

486
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Speaker 2: in I had met a pimp from Maryland and his

487
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Speaker 2: name was Benny, and I was very impressed with his lifestyle,

488
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: and he drove old Cadillac El Dorado with a clear

489
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Speaker 2: bubble over the driver's seat and a clear bubble over

490
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Speaker 2: the passenger seat. I'm like, this is the car that

491
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Speaker 2: I need. So I went to a place in the

492
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Speaker 2: Bronx and I bought a Manda at Orange Cadillac El

493
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Speaker 2: Dorado that had been made for one of the Isley brothers.

494
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Speaker 2: True scurry. I found out later it was really for

495
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Speaker 2: one of the Isley brothers. And I put a Rolls

496
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Speaker 2: Royce grill on it because that's what the pimps drove

497
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Speaker 2: in the seventies. But mine had doctor's plates on a

498
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Speaker 2: DDS plates on the front, so it was very confusing

499
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Speaker 2: to people. Hookers would check out the car, drug dealers,

500
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Speaker 2: cops would follow me. I was married at the time,

501
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Speaker 2: and my wife was like, we're Jewish and we live

502
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Speaker 2: in Scarsdale. Why am I driving an orange Cadillac.

503
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Speaker 4: You know?

504
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: No one got it but me. I totally got it.

505
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: It made perfect sense to me. So I drive up

506
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Speaker 2: to thirty Rock with my films. I throw the doorman

507
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Speaker 2: a few bucks, because in those days you could drive

508
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: right up to the front of the building. There was

509
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Speaker 2: no terrorism. I threw the dormant a few bucks, and

510
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: I said, watch my car. Lorne Michaels is expecting me.

511
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Speaker 2: Lord Michael's the producer of Satay n He had never

512
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Speaker 2: heard of me. Lord Michaels was not expecting me. So

513
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: I snuck into the I snuck past security. I got

514
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Speaker 2: up to Saturday Night Live. Alan's why Belle. I don't

515
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: know if you know the name, but he's become an

516
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: award winning writer, producer, director. In those days, he was

517
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: the main writer for Saturday Night Live. He was playing

518
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Speaker 2: handball on the wall with a guy named Neil Levy,

519
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Speaker 2: who is Lorne Michael's cousin and I interrupted them playing handball,

520
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Speaker 2: and I introduced myself and I say, I have these films,

521
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: and Alan sits and watches the films. To this day,

522
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: decades later, he says he can't get the image of

523
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: cream cheese on the ankles out of his I spoke

524
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Speaker 2: to him this past week. You know, he did the

525
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: kindest thing for me. He didn't just give me the

526
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: phone number of his manager. He called him on my

527
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: behalf wow and he said to it. And his manager's

528
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: name was David Jonas, and who left us in recent

529
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Speaker 2: years at one hundred years old, and at the time

530
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Speaker 2: he was managing Freddie Prinz, who was the star of

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Speaker 2: the show Chico and the Man.

532
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Speaker 1: I love that show.

533
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Speaker 2: So he set me up to meet with David Jonas.

534
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Speaker 2: And David took about a year trying to talk me

535
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Speaker 2: out of it. He goes, you're a doctor. You don't

536
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: need this business. It's a crazy business. You don't want

537
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Speaker 2: to be in the comedy world. You're a doctor. Said.

538
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't take no for an answer, And it took

539
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: me about a year to learn how to write jokes

540
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: because I'm thinking cream cheese on the ankles, which you

541
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: can't do on stage. It's a visual right. So I

542
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: started writing jokes for his comedians Dick Capri and Freddie Roman,

543
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: the guys who did the show Catskills on Broadway, and

544
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: through them I got to meet Rodney Dangerfield, and Rodney

545
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: started doing my jokes on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carr.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

547
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: That's really what started my career. But it was because

548
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Speaker 2: I had the nerve to drive up in a pitmobile

549
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: a Saturday night love and they and they actually did

550
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: that in the documentary. They did it in an animated version.

551
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: If you remember of me fiving this orange cattle, I would.

552
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Speaker 1: Love to have seen that though in real life.

553
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: I'll send you pictures of the car.

554
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: I have pictures of your Jeffrey, can you just tell

555
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: me where the hootspa. I hope I said that correctly,

556
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: because if I don't spray it, then I didn't say

557
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Speaker 3: it correctly.

558
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: But what what gave you that I'm not going to

559
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: take no for an answer.

560
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: That creative thinking to just act like you already knew

561
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: these people just to get you know, because that has

562
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: to come from somewhere, Someone instilled this in you, or

563
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: you just naturally knew.

564
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: I wish I had a great answer to that. I

565
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: was just I was so determined. I felt like people

566
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: needed to know who I was. That the only reason

567
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't best friends with Mick Jagger was he didn't

568
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: meet me yet.

569
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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

570
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: Like I finally met Mick one night, and I recently

571
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: met Melanie Hambroke, his girlfriend. I told the other story

572
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: because when my kids were little, they would say, how

573
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: come you're not like the other dads And I'd be like,

574
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: you don't understand if I was Mick Jaguar and they'd

575
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, dad, but you're not. And I told

576
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Mick that story the night I met her. He didn't

577
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: think it was that funny. I thought it was hilarious,

578
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: But Melanie thought it was funny, you know. But I

579
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: don't know so where it came from. I was just determined.

580
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: I felt like I was given this gift of comedy.

581
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: My parents had great sense of humor. My dad used

582
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Speaker 2: to take me to comedy films when I was a

583
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Speaker 2: little kid. He was always laughing. Oh, he was such

584
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: a wonderful person. Man had a great sense of humor.

585
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 2: And maybe that's where I got it from. But I

586
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: was determined because I didn't know one person in show business.

587
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody. So I'm like, how am I

588
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: going to do this? How am I gonna get to

589
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: meet all these people? But that I needed to know? Yeah, yeah,

590
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't know where I got the courage from. Like

591
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: I said, I don't think I could do it now.

592
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean you could in any way, and just a.

593
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 2: Different world I could. They would shoot at me if

594
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Speaker 2: I if I tried to meak at this headday night live,

595
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: now you'd.

596
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Speaker 1: See me on the news and handcuffs.

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00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: You know. It was a much safer world in those days.

598
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: It was people were being set on fire on the subway.

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Speaker 3: It was you know, no, but but still very important

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Speaker 3: just to know for anyone who may want to get,

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00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: you know, into comedy or whatever they want to be.

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Speaker 1: Do what I did. Don't do what Jeffrey did.

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Speaker 2: No, But I had a lot of nerve, is what

604
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I really had a lot of courage to

605
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: go out and do that. Because these people could have

606
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: said to me, who the heck are you get out

607
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: of here? They could have, but for some reason they

608
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: accepted there was only three people that ever wanted to

609
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: meet Woody Allen, Salvador Dally, and the Beach Boys, and

610
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: I met them all. I got to meet them all

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Speaker 2: and spend an evening. I spent an evening with Salvador Dally.

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00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: You know, well, that's another crazy story. But I don't

613
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: want you to run out of time on your podcast.

614
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: But I have a lot of stories.

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Speaker 3: You do, and that's why I was saying that the

616
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Speaker 3: documentary to sum it up as quickly as it was,

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Speaker 3: who the f is Jeffrey gurian Is, I said, my goodness,

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Speaker 3: I would have gone down each one of the segments

619
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Speaker 3: of that documentary. I could have spent hours discussing each

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Speaker 3: element of them alone.

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Speaker 1: But it was so nicely done.

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Speaker 3: It got me so excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: You will be right back with more of the Comedy

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Speaker 4: Save Me Podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Save Me Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Some of the things that I meet no doubt, and

626
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Speaker 3: I have to share this with you because it's so huge,

627
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Speaker 3: and I want you to explain if you could be

628
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Speaker 3: very careful what you spend your time being afraid of,

629
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Speaker 3: because we tend to manifest our biggest fears. Is that

630
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Speaker 3: sort of like people getting in our own way of

631
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: success or those old sayings, be careful what you wish for,

632
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: you know, Can you explain that, because that's really huge,

633
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Speaker 3: just that sentence.

634
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Speaker 2: I'm say that you said that. It's one of the things.

635
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: You know. Stuttering was a very big part of my story,

636
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: and it had to do with thear For some reason,

637
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: I've been leaving a fear based existence for my whole life,

638
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: and I never let it stop me. As a kid,

639
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: I had a lot of fears. I was afraid of

640
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: the dark, and I made myself go in the dark.

641
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: I started stuttering when I was about seven years old,

642
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: and I stuttered through my twenties and beyond. Even after

643
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: I was a doctor, I was still blocking on certain words.

644
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: When I went to college, I made myself run for

645
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Speaker 2: the president of the freshman class. I was only sixteen

646
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: years old. I didn't feel part of I couldn't say

647
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: my name. I could never say Gurian. Most stutters can't

648
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: say their own name. As you can see, not only

649
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: don't I stutter anymore, but you can't even shut me up.

650
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: I have a lot to say. I always taught I

651
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: have a lot to say. But as an avocation, I

652
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: work with stutter as old over the world to teach them,

653
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm not to stutter. When I went to college, as

654
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: I said, I ran for president, telling myself, if I

655
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: could win, I wouldn't have to stutter anymore. And to

656
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: make a long story short, I won. I was the

657
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: president of the whole freshman class of Hunter College, and

658
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: I still stuttered. And it was a great lesson because

659
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: it taught me that outside validation in life doesn't work.

660
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many people tell you that you're

661
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: wonderful and talented and fantastic. It matters what you think

662
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: of yourself. And that started my journey on learning about

663
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: who I was and what thoughts I was holding that

664
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: were not valid for me. It's a very big topic.

665
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: I do a talk called don't Believe your Thoughts. We're

666
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: all holding thoughts that are not valid for us, that

667
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: usually negative that work against us. I created a false

668
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: disability for myself. As you can see, I no longer stutter.

669
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: It's not a genetic problem, and the stuttering community doesn't

670
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: tell people that they can get better. It's a very

671
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: big frustration for me, so I worked very hard to

672
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: cure myself, and it took me years to undo the

673
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: unhealthy thoughts that I was holding. And it's what led

674
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: I hope you don't mind, but it's what led to

675
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: me writing my second book, Fight the Fear, Overcoming Obstacles

676
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: that stand in your way, because I've been battling fear

677
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: for so many years, and other people do too when

678
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: I speak to them. So I started studying spirituality about

679
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: thirty years ago and learned how to process the events

680
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: in my life. Fear is a bully. Fear is the

681
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: thoughts in your head that tell you that you'll never

682
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: be successful, that you're not enough, you're too old, you're

683
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: too young, you're too thin, you're too heavy, whatever, you're

684
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: just not right. It always tells you these things and

685
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: they're not true, and you have to fight against it.

686
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: And what I teach people is you have to make

687
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: that voice or whisper. If you were in a crowd

688
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: of people and somebody was whispering to you, there's a

689
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: good chance you wouldn't hear what they were saying. That's

690
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: how you have to make that part of your mind.

691
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: It's your subconscious mind. Your subconscious mind is your enemy.

692
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: And it's very strange to think that I'm battling with

693
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: my own mind. So I have fears of traveling. I

694
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: have fears of getting lost. So in twenty nineteen, I

695
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: made myself go to Japan all by myself as a challenge.

696
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: I performed in two shows while I was lost every

697
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: single day. Because they say that the Japanese subway system

698
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: is the most difficult in the world. I was lost

699
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: every day, but I never let it stop me. I

700
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: figured out where to go. You know, I have fears

701
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: of getting caught in the rain without an umbrella, probably

702
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: because of my hair. I don't like to get my

703
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: edit it. So I'm walking down the street in Japan

704
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: and it starts to rain out of nowhere. So I

705
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: found the story and I bought an umbrella. I solved

706
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: the problem. You know, I spoke Japanese. Things that other

707
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: people can do comfortably, I must be able to do.

708
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: When I go to the airport. I'm not alone. It's

709
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: filled with millions of people who are traveling. If they're traveling,

710
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: I have to be able to do it as well.

711
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: So I challenge myself on a daily basis. And again

712
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: it's one of the things that I lecture on. I

713
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: have had so many fears, fears of performing, fears of

714
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: getting on stage, fear of having a practice, fear of

715
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: having a family, fear of being a dad. I conquered

716
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: every one of those fears. Not to say that they're gone,

717
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: but I can battle fear on a daily basis. So

718
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: many things can make me uncomfortable. I'll never figure out

719
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: exactly why, and it's not important to figure out exactly why,

720
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: but it is important to look at all the possibilities.

721
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: So I'm always grateful to get an opportunity to talk

722
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: about stuttering, because if anybody out there knows somebody who

723
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: has that problem, just tell them that they can get better.

724
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: That's the message. You don't have to tell people that

725
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: they could be cured. For some reason. The stuttering community

726
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: doesn't like it if you tell them you have a cure,

727
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: but they should know that you can get better, that

728
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: the problem is in here. I realized I'll end it

729
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: on this. I realized one day I didn't stutter when

730
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: I was alone. I only started when I was trying

731
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: to talk to somebody else, which is very common in

732
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: the stuttering community. And I was given the grace to

733
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: figure out you can't have a disability based on your

734
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: location or on who is in the room with you.

735
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: A man with a limp limps in every room of

736
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: his house. He can't go into a room alone and

737
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: walk perfectly. But if I could speak fine when I'm alone,

738
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: then theoretically it means there's nothing wrong with me. And

739
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: I had to confront the fear and undo the negative

740
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: thoughts in my mind to allow myself to free myself

741
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: from the bondage of stuttering. That's a very long answer

742
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: to your question.

743
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: That's incredible, though, because what you were saying in essence is,

744
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: first of all, you have to train your brain to

745
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: think optimistically and look at every challenge in life or

746
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: anything that you're afraid of as just an obstacle you

747
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: have to overcome. There's so many people that when you

748
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: get stuck in the you get stuck in a rhythm

749
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: on the fear just guides you constantly. And I don't

750
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: know if you or even myself sometimes, I mean, yeah,

751
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: I've been afraid of things in the past, but for

752
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: some weird reason, I have this. I always thought it

753
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: was a problem that I was overly optimistic. I was

754
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: too optimistic, I was too happy, I was too excited,

755
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: just the opposite of almost all my friends, who promptly

756
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: didn't want to be friends with me anymore because they

757
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: didn't know how to be happy. And I learned that

758
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: when I was teenagers. So when I talk to someone

759
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: like you who's done all this research and written books,

760
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 3: and you know, it just it all makes so much

761
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: sense that there's so much we just do to ourselves

762
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: that we need to learn.

763
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: It's very hard to objectively look at your own thoughts.

764
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: You know. I have a healing center for a while

765
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: called the Happiness Center, and I teach people to create

766
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: their own happiness center. If you come to my house,

767
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: it's filled with balloons and crayons and toys, and you

768
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: would think that little children lived here. And I do

769
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: it for me. It's very important. My inner child is

770
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: my best friend. When you were a little girl and

771
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: people would come to you ass and say, can Lynn

772
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: come out to play? And you were so happy. That's

773
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: not supposed to stop just because you grow up and

774
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: do serious things. You're supposed to stay connected to that.

775
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: And so when I teach people to create their own

776
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: happiness center, every place where you live, every place you look,

777
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: should be something that makes you feel good inside. Like

778
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: my whole apartment is white, my carpeting is white, my

779
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: piano is white, my car is white. I need brightness

780
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: because as an EmPATH, I'm affected by color, by music,

781
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: by the people I'm with, by the room that I'm in.

782
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm sensitive to everything around me. So I have to

783
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: center my life and make sure that everything there is

784
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: something that makes me happy, and it does. I don't

785
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: keep things around that bring back bad memories. I only

786
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: surround myself. That's my own personal happiness center. And that's

787
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: what I teach people to do.

788
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, now it explains everything about all. Everything

789
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: is so neutral in my life and people make fun.

790
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: Could you put a little something of color around here

791
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: or something? You know, everything's just so and there's no

792
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: yeah there.

793
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: It's interesting how you go into someone's home and it

794
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: can explain a lot about what's going on in their head.

795
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: People live in dark places and they wonder why they're depressed.

796
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what on?

797
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: Like a plant? I need lots of light, sunlight and water. Happiness, Happiness,

798
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. That's what I lecture on. You know.

799
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: In the past few months, I've been a keynote speaker

800
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: at major dental conferences, and the topic they gave me

801
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: was how to survive a career in dentistry using positive

802
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: thinking and humor because dentists have the highest rate of

803
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: suicide and the highest rate of divorce.

804
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: You're kidding.

805
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: I did the divorce. I'm trying to put off the suicide.

806
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: Please, no, we need you.

807
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's just their joke. I'm kidding. I feel good,

808
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: I feel wonderful. You know, my ADHD kicks my butt.

809
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: It creates a lot of confusion. I talk about that

810
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: also so many people. You know, it's very fashionable these

811
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: days for people that say they have ADHD. I was

812
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: actually tested by a neurologist and he said to me,

813
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: you must have had to work ten times as hard

814
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: as everyone else, And it's true I did. In twenty fifteen,

815
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: I had a heart attack, came out of it aware it

816
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: was one of those they called it a widow maker

817
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: heart attack. I guess it was lucky. I wasn't still married, right,

818
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: there was no widow But I was lucky enough to survive.

819
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: And I was back on stage five days later and

820
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: the owner of the comedy clip said to me, what

821
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: are you crazy? You just had a heart attack. I

822
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, but it's hard to get a spot here.

823
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: I didn't want to lose five. Only a comedian would

824
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 2: say something like that, Only a true comedian. Because when

825
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: I left the hospital, they said to me, try and

826
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: make believe this didn't happen, And I'm like, how do

827
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: you make you didn't have a heart attack? It really

828
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: put me in touch with my mortality because it was

829
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: the major artery to the left side of my heart.

830
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: They said it was about ninety five percent blocked. I

831
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: had never been sick a day in the night before

832
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: I was out with the serious XM people because I

833
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: had been a regular and serious exam for a couple

834
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: of years, bringing on special guests. And I was on

835
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: air and we were partying for the holiday. And the

836
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: next day this thing happens to me. And then and

837
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: then March eleventh of twenty twenty, the day they declared

838
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: it a pandemic, That's the day I came down with it. Well,

839
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: as you can tell, I'm a trendsetter, I went right.

840
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 2: I got COVID immediately. I don't want to wait. Well,

841
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: COVID double pneumonia, right.

842
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, the whole thing.

843
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm laughing now, but it was really very serious. The

844
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: ambulance had to take me away I waited two weeks

845
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: to call an ambulance because they were wanting people if

846
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: you had any kind of heart condition, trying not to

847
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: go to the emergency room because the germs were so strong.

848
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: It was when New York was the epicenter of the virus.

849
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: And when the ambulance finally came, I couldn't take the

850
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: pain anymore. I was I never was so sick in

851
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: my life. And when the ambulance came to get me,

852
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: two men in hazmat suits came to my door and

853
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: one of them took my hand. I couldn't believe this

854
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: to this day, and he said to me, don't worry,

855
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 2: You're gonna make it. That small act of kindness meant

856
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: so much to me because I had been alone and

857
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: so sick for two weeks. And he was amazed that

858
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: I could get on the stretcher myself. He said most

859
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: people needed to be carried. And when I laying there

860
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: in the hospital, I was trying to make myself laugh

861
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: because my life is so bizarre. The first two days

862
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: they put me in isolation. The third day they put

863
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: me in a room with three other very sick men,

864
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: and they tell me the guy in the bed next

865
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: to me is from Wuhan, China. I'm like, what like

866
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: that can't even have it.

867
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: But that's impossible the kind of things that happened to me.

868
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: I'm laying there next to patient zero, right, I'm god

869
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: guys coughing and choking into the air with no mask on.

870
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: So when I expressed my concern to the nurse, she

871
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: told me not to worry, and she pointed to a

872
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: thin curtain that was hanging between us, and I'm like,

873
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: excuse me for being so concerned. I said, you know,

874
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: everyone knows if you want to protect yourself from a

875
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: deadly virus, you hang a thin curtain around you. Too

876
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: bad doctor Fauci didn't know about that. I mean, it

877
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: was ridiculous. So I turned. I turned my hospitalization into

878
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: like ten minutes in my act. Wow, that was lucky

879
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: that I survived. As I said, I joke about it now.

880
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: They saved me with hydroxy chloroquin before they politicized it.

881
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: I put myself on zpak, which I like to tell

882
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: people always keep z pack in the house. Yeah, it's

883
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: an antibiotic that's specific for your breathing.

884
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you end up getting pneumonia because you

885
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: wait too long, like most.

886
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and you're supposed to take it for five

887
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: days and I took it for ten days and that

888
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: and the hydroxy saved me.

889
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: So well, thank goodness, you're still with.

890
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: Us, Thank you. But humor is very, very powerful. It

891
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: could change people's lives. And I guess that's why you're

892
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. How comedy saved me. It saved

893
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: me so many times. It saved me from the ran.

894
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: It got me through dental school. I used to draw

895
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: on my walls. They treated me so badly that I

896
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: get to talk about that now at dental conferences. They

897
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: want to hear my story because they tortured me in

898
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: dental school. I was banned from school because I grew

899
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: a mustache, and the dean of the school these days

900
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: told me it was because they were racist and anti Semites.

901
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know that in those days, but I was

902
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: tortured in dental school. So I've been through a lot

903
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: of difficult times and comedy always saved me being able

904
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: to think differently. You know. Comedy is taking things that

905
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: you see every day and pointing out what's funny about them.

906
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: That's why the audience laughs that we have the ability

907
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: to see things that you take for granted. Like now

908
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm talking about rip jens. Rip jens drive me insand

909
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: because the truth is rip jens are just torn pants.

910
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: That's what we all man, just torn pants. If you

911
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: went into a store you saw a sign a sale,

912
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: a big table filled with pants and it said sale

913
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 2: torn pants, there's a good chance you wouldn't buy them.

914
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: You'd probably I'm good, I'm good, you know. But people

915
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: are wearing torn and it's so stupid because the more

916
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: torn they are, the more expensive. There I saw a

917
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: girl withsleek just wearing pockets. That's all that was left.

918
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Both flags were completely gone, just pockets one thousand dollars.

919
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Poor people can never wear ripped jeans. They can't afford there.

920
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: It's like, so it's so silly. Everybody wears riped jeans,

921
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: but to me, I'm seeing torn pants.

922
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: It's funny how your mind works.

923
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: Like that's what comedians do. We take the things that

924
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: you see every day and we see the humor in them.

925
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: You know, something you said to me, or maybe it

926
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: was during the one of the things that I've watched

927
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: of you or read that there are still mornings even

928
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: today that you will wake up and feel a little

929
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't want to know if depression is the word,

930
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: but you just don't feel right and you can't get

931
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: out of your own head.

932
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: Well, how do you do that?

933
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: I mean, for example, I am the happiest person that

934
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: I know, but I still wake up Like just the

935
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: other morning, I woke up and I had this sense

936
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: of gloom and doom and I couldn't shake it, and

937
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to shake it. And you really

938
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: have to work hard with your own mind to fix that,

939
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: and sometimes it's really hard.

940
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: There's a possibility that you're an mpath. Look, we're surrounded

941
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: by stress every day. Every place you look TV, you

942
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: read the newspaper, horrible things. They're such evil in the world.

943
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: It's possible not to internalize some of it. I find

944
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: that I wake up in a positive mood, but if

945
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: I wake look, you may be internalizing stuff. Maybe you're

946
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: an mpath as well, and you're internalizing something from someone else.

947
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: It's confusing to people until they learn about their sensitivity.

948
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: What am I feeling and what am I feeling that

949
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: someone else that I picked up from someone else. When

950
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: I do healing work, I have to protect my heart chakra,

951
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: that I don't internalize someone else's negativity. Very easy to

952
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: do that. What I do is I make a gratitude

953
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: list all the things that I'm grateful for. It's very

954
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: important to be grateful for things. Self pity is one

955
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: of the worst things that a human being can do

956
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: for themselves, to feel sorry for yourself. Anytime I've ever

957
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 2: done that, I walk out in the street and God

958
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: puts some unfortunate person in front of me to show

959
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: me how lucky that I am. I have a very,

960
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: very long gratitude list. There are things that I've wanted

961
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: in my life that I don't have for a long

962
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: time now. But what I've learned is that I'm not

963
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: the ultimate victim of the universe. If I don't get

964
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: what I think I'm supposed to have, it's not because

965
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: I'm being punished. It's because I'm supposed to have something

966
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: better than that. And if I got what I thought

967
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: I wanted, I wouldn't be available for the really good

968
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: thing that's coming to me. The problem is I have

969
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: to have patience, and as human beings, we have no patience.

970
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: We want everything right now. So I've come to understand that,

971
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm studying spirituality for thirty years and

972
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: it's taught me how to process the events in my life.

973
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: And I understand the path that I've been on. I

974
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: understand it much better than I used to. You get

975
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: what you get. You get what you're supposed to get,

976
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 2: not necessarily what you want, but what you're supposed to have.

977
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: And you don't lose anything you're supposed to have either,

978
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, on a very personal note, divorce is very painful.

979
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: But my ex wife is a wonderful person, and she

980
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: adopted two other children. She remarried and adopted two other

981
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: children and had another daughter of her own, and those

982
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: two children needed to be adopted, and that little girl

983
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: needed to be born. That little girl recently had twins

984
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: of her own. All those things couldn't have happened had

985
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: I stayed, And sometimes you only see that in retrospect. Well,

986
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: we're all friends. Hollidays come and we celebrate everything together

987
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: with my kids, my ex wife and her husband and

988
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: their kids, and I have a very big extended family

989
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: because of the print that I've spoken to you about,

990
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily comedic principles, but spiritual principles. And I try

991
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: and lead my life that way. And when you do that,

992
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: you wind up with a much bigger life than you

993
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: thought you'd have, because people very often hate each other

994
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: when they break up. And for me, like she's the

995
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: mother of my children, there's no greater gift. No one

996
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: else ever gave me any kind of gift that even

997
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: comes close to that, And so I value that and

998
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: so I honor her. You know, I tell her. I

999
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: don't know if she likes to hear it when, but

1000
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: I tell her. I tell her all the time that

1001
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful for her because she gave me that

1002
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: amazing opportunity, and not everybody has that opportunity. And you know,

1003
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: so being grateful is a key to getting out of

1004
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: that gloomy state. If you wind up waking up like that,

1005
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: sometimes could just be a bad dream too. You know,

1006
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: you can pick up something that you heard or so

1007
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: it's why when you dream, there are people in your

1008
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: dream that you never met before. They're probably people you

1009
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: passed on the street that you don't know.

1010
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: Oh how interesting.

1011
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: Our minds are like video recorders. They record everything. I'm

1012
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: very big talking about cellular memory, every single thing that's

1013
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: happened to you since your born Lynn is still inside

1014
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: of you. It's the reason why you could hear a

1015
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: song you like and you remember the boy you liked

1016
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: in the third grade, or you spell a perfume and

1017
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: you like my kindergarten teacher wore that perfume. You know,

1018
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: it's sensory dejavus. There's no thought involved. It happens automatically. Yeah,

1019
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: And so we get triggers all day long, and you

1020
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: never know what triggers a weird thought, And subtly you

1021
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: can be happy and suddenly you could feel sad and

1022
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: you won't even know why, and it could be a

1023
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: bit of a song. Somebody walks by that reminds you

1024
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: of somebody you used to know. You walk by thirteenth

1025
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: Street and you had a relationship on thirteenth Street, and

1026
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: just seeing that sign bring something back to you. We're

1027
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: very delicate instruments.

1028
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: We sure are.

1029
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I feel like you should be sending

1030
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: me an invoice at the end of this podcast.

1031
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: Well, I have a feeling that you are an EmPATH.

1032
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: When I read about you, you do so many interesting things.

1033
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised because it seems that what I'm

1034
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: saying resonates with you that you get it. I'm not

1035
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: saying stuff that you don't understand.

1036
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: No, I get it.

1037
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: I think the one thing where I realized that something

1038
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: was going on was I don't I can't handle large crowds.

1039
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: Not because I'm afraid of anything. Current day. You know,

1040
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: large crowds of people and.

1041
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 2: An energy can be overwhelming, but I.

1042
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: Never knew that.

1043
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 3: And someone told me that, and I was like, that

1044
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 3: makes so much sense. I'm feeling all of everybody else's

1045
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: energy and I don't. I'm like, my brain is going

1046
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: crazy because I don't know which way to turn.

1047
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe there, maybe you're.

1048
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: Just the signs of an EmPATH that you feel too much.

1049
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: You take in. I'm like an antenna for people's feelings.

1050
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: I still I feel more than I want to. So

1051
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: I've had to learn to censor my life. If I

1052
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: encounter someone who I get a negative vibe from, I

1053
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: eliminate that. I don't allow them in anymore wherever I can. Sometimes,

1054
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: if you're doing a big project, some of them slip in.

1055
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: You can't quit everything you're doing just because somebody is negative.

1056
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: But when there's a choice, you have to try and

1057
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: protect yourself.

1058
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: You are so right about that that that's what makes

1059
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: work work sometimes instead of fun. Now you've interviewed and written,

1060
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: and thank you so much for all that. I know

1061
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: you're also on a time schedule too, so I want

1062
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: to I have so many more.

1063
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Quotable Please, I'm not in a hurry. This is very

1064
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: lucky to me. Take as much time as you need.

1065
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, You're so generous. You've interviewed and written

1066
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: for legendary comedians. Can you tell us maybe about a

1067
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: particularly memorable encounter that may have deeply impacted you, maybe

1068
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: somebody like you know who may have gotten in your

1069
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 3: way with SNL or have you ever confronted that? But

1070
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: do you know or any even anecdotal you know something.

1071
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: I've been given the gift and to meet all the

1072
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: people that I've been inspired by in the comedy world,

1073
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: written for them, worked with them. You know Milton Burle.

1074
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: A lot of people who were listening to this may

1075
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: not even know who Milton Burle was. Mister Television. Yeah,

1076
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: greatest entertainers of all time. The reason he was called

1077
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: mister the Television was because people bought TVs to watch

1078
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 2: his show in the nineteen forties, before there was TV.

1079
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: He had one of the first big shows the Texico

1080
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: Star Theater, and he was my sponsor in the Friars Club.

1081
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: As a little kid, i'd watch him on the Ed

1082
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: Sullivan Show, and Milton Burrell became a friend of mine.

1083
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: He saved my life once. I was very depressed and

1084
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: he I'll never forget. I was get home on a

1085
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: very cold winter day and my phone was ringing. This

1086
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: was before cell phones. I got home from teaching and

1087
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: I was feeling really sad, and as I was opening

1088
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 2: my door, my phone was ringing already and I was

1089
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: trying to get to it before it stopped ringing. And

1090
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: I picked it up and it was Milton Borough and

1091
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: he said to me he was being honored and he

1092
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: wanted me to come as his guest. I think it

1093
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: was an honor from the Friars Club Man of the

1094
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: Year or something like that. And it was so amazing

1095
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: to me that I went from being so sad and

1096
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: depressed to being so happy that a man like that

1097
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: would think to call me. We actually became friends, you know,

1098
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: and I got to write for him, and I got

1099
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: to write for Woody Allen. I'm not Woody Allen, for

1100
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: Rodney Dangerfield and Joan Rivers and Gilbert Gottfried and Richard

1101
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: Belzer and Andrew Dice Clay and one of the few

1102
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: people that ever got to write for Dice, And he

1103
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: says that openly there was a time I wouldn't say

1104
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: who I wrote for, because it's not to take anything

1105
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: away from them. They did most of their own material.

1106
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: But they worked with me, you know. And I got

1107
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: to work with Nicroll and John Mulaney. Oh yes, they

1108
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: had me open their Broadway show and they made me

1109
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: this jacket which, oh my gosh, an exact replica of

1110
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: the Guardian Angels jacket that Curtis Sleewer wears. Who's running back,

1111
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: But my jacket says Gurian Angels. And Nick Roll and

1112
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: John Mulaney made this for me, see on the front,

1113
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: the exact replica of the Guardian Angels. So they didn't

1114
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 2: know that I was friends with Curtis Sleewer. They mentioned

1115
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: him in their Broadway show. I used to be Curtis's dentist,

1116
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: and he says it, so it doesn't matter that I

1117
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: say that, get out of He's my friend for thirty

1118
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: years and he's got to win for mayor. By the way,

1119
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: So as a surprize to Nick and John. I brought

1120
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: Curtis to the Broadway show and he wore his Guardian

1121
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 2: Angels jacket and I wore my Gurian Angels jacket.

1122
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: Guryan Angels.

1123
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: I almost feel like you should have some hot chicks

1124
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: and Gurian Angels jackets too, like Charlie's.

1125
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: They made up Gurian Angels t shirts and they got

1126
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: two models to wear them to the opening night. I've

1127
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: had a lot of amazing experiences, and we did the

1128
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: show in Montreal and they had me they do too

1129
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: much tuna? Were they prank?

1130
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, this is more homework for

1131
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: those listening to the show. Besides who the f is

1132
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: John gury and you have to look up Nick Croll

1133
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 3: and John Malaney doing too much Tuna with you because

1134
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: that is so funny the.

1135
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: Person to be pranked, it's a strange thing to put

1136
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: on your resume. But I'm the very first person to

1137
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: be pranked with too much tuna. Nick and John think

1138
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: it's very funny to give people the tuna sandwich. That's

1139
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: about this toll. And I'm the first. They brought me

1140
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: out to La to do it. On Comedy Central. It

1141
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: went viral, and then we did it in Montreal at

1142
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: the Just Pha Laffs Festival, which is the biggest comedy

1143
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: festival in the world, and they had me give the

1144
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: tuna sandwich to Jet Appatow, the King of Hollywood.

1145
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: I'll get out of the King of Hollywood Movies.

1146
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 2: When they were ready to give in this sandworis, they said, Jeffrey,

1147
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: come out and I was wearing my Gury and Angels

1148
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: jacket with the big tuna sandwich to give it to

1149
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: Jet Appatow.

1150
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 3: Did you know what you were going to say? Or

1151
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: was it totally outlived?

1152
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 2: Totally odlived? And I thought I did something wrong.

1153
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: You were so funny.

1154
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: They stopped shooting after this. That can take and they

1155
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: were doing other sketches and they did a lot of

1156
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: takes and I'm like, did I do something wrong? And

1157
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: They're like, no, we love what you did. We don't

1158
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: want to change it because I refuse to be praank. Yeah,

1159
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: you were franking you And I'm like, no, you're not.

1160
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: This is good.

1161
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it this way, this is a perfect

1162
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: tune to say it. I'm like, no, this cameras all around,

1163
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not looking. I'm not looking you know, Oh.

1164
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: My god, you were amazing. I had to know.

1165
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it seemed like it was it was impossible

1166
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: that it could be that funny without being scripted, but

1167
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: it really is.

1168
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: It just happened. And like I said, I was worried

1169
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: that I did something wrong, and they had me back

1170
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: a couple of times. I wound up doing a thing

1171
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: with Laura dern Andy, Amy Poehler and Seth Rogen and

1172
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: Katy Perry. It was Katy Perry's comedy debut and I'm

1173
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: on the red carpet doing crazy stuff with him.

1174
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: For those listening who might be in pain or pursuing

1175
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: a dream that seems impossible, what message do you hope

1176
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: that they would take away from from your journey in life.

1177
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: I know that's a big question.

1178
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: But I have an answer. I have an answer to everything, Okay.

1179
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: Perseverance is very important. If you believe in yourself, if

1180
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: you truly think that you have a gift, then you

1181
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: owe it to yourself to persevere. The entertainment business is very, very,

1182
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: very difficult. You have to be able to handle rejection.

1183
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: Not everyone is good for whatever they think they're going

1184
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: out for. At some point you have to have a

1185
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: clear picture of yourself and realize that maybe you're not

1186
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: what you think you are. But if you really believe

1187
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: that you have talent, then you have to take it

1188
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: as far as you can take it without driving yourself crazy.

1189
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: You have to have balance in your life, you know.

1190
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: I was lucky. I couldn't get a job as a waiter,

1191
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: so I went to dental school. It's important to have

1192
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: a second career, something to fall back on if you're

1193
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: only looking at getting into show business. It's a very

1194
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 2: very hard feel to break into and make a name

1195
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: for yourself, and you have to be really tough and creative.

1196
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: People are very sensitive, so it makes it very very hard.

1197
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: I was lucky that I had two careers, you know,

1198
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: as hard as it was for me to do both

1199
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: at the same time, it gave me balance, very left brain,

1200
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: very right brain, and when the comedy thing wasn't working,

1201
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: I always had a career to fall back on. I

1202
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: was always doing things, whether I was making people laugh

1203
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: or making them look pretty, I was always doing something

1204
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: to put out positive energy to the universe. So perseverance

1205
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: is key up to a certain point. Then you have

1206
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: to be realistic and you have to say maybe I'm

1207
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: not as talented as I think I am.

1208
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: Good advice from a man who knows one of they

1209
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: call you one of the most connected people in comedy

1210
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 3: they do. Let me ask you, how do you use

1211
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: that platform, you know to inspire joy and kindness?

1212
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: How I use that platform is when people approach me

1213
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: and people do they say, can you help me get

1214
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: a big store for this show or this whatever? To

1215
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: produce shows. Because once in a while I produce shows,

1216
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm able to call the talent directly without going through

1217
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: their manager or agent. I call them first and present

1218
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: it to them and see if they're even interested in it,

1219
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: and then if they are, then I go through a

1220
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: manager or agent because you have to do that out

1221
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: of respect. But it gives me the option of talking

1222
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: directly to the big star themselves. Because fortunately, and again

1223
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: I don't even have an answer how this happened. Nikroll

1224
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: said it in that video. He said, you know more

1225
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: people in comedy than anybody I know, and I'm not

1226
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: even sure how that happened. I was in the right

1227
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: place at the right time, you know. I go through life.

1228
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: My motto is I love everyone until they teach me

1229
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 2: not to. I embrace people you know, and so maybe

1230
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: they feel that I don't know. I've just been lucky.

1231
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: I've been able to meet every better that I wanted

1232
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: to meet in comedy, and I don't know out of

1233
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: the real newcomers, you know, they say, I know all

1234
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: the YouTubers. I knew the comics from the Golden Age

1235
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: and the YouTubers from today. There are people that I

1236
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: read about that I haven't met yet. But there are

1237
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: some people that I met that I didn't even know

1238
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: they knew me. There's one who's so bad. I don't

1239
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: know why I'm blacking on his name. Oh, Troy Bond.

1240
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: So I was. I was performing at the Sunshine Festival

1241
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: in Florida, and everybody was talking about Troy Bond, this

1242
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: new big star, and I was so excited. I was

1243
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: going to go meet him and do an interview with him,

1244
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: because aside from performing, I was interviewing people for the

1245
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: festival and I heard he was in this room, and

1246
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: so I went into the room and as I approached him,

1247
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: he said, Jeffrey Gerkhead, I can't believe that you're here.

1248
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: And when I interviewed him, he said, I can't believe

1249
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to be on comedy Matters TV. I've been

1250
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: watching it for years. I didn't even know. I was

1251
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: excited to meet him and he was excited to meet me.

1252
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: So we took some great pictures together, and he's in

1253
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: this little sizzle reel that they made about me. So

1254
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: it's just funny. I don't have a good answer for it,

1255
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: but I just I love meeting people that are successful,

1256
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: people that are doing things to put positive energy out

1257
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: to the world. That's the best answer I can give you.

1258
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: Well, it's a fantastic one. Used to add it to

1259
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 3: perseverance and gratitude. And you've got a book. Oh, but

1260
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 3: you already wrote that, so we'll have to check out.

1261
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: I wound up with eight books. The last book that

1262
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: I'll want to show you is the book that I

1263
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: wrote after I recovered from COVID, and it's called Facing Adversity,

1264
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: Stories of Courage and Inspiration, and it's true stories of

1265
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: people who overcame tremendous difficulties. We all think we have problems.

1266
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: These people a man born with no arms and legs,

1267
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: who is going to commit suicide at ten years old,

1268
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: and today he's an internationally known motivational speaker married to

1269
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: a beautiful woman and he has four children, and I

1270
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: think I have a rough day sometimes. And this man

1271
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: Nick Voojisitch is his name, No arms and legs. And

1272
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: my whole book is those stories that I collected over

1273
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: a period of twenty years. And while I was recovering

1274
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: from COVID, I was in the house for months, and

1275
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: I said, what can I do? I don't want to

1276
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: waste this time. Time is too precious. How can I

1277
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: turn a negative into a positive? And I took this

1278
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: folded down from my closet that's packed with these stories,

1279
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: and I wrote Facing Adversity and it's part of my

1280
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: Happiness series. Those three books that I showed you what

1281
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: I call my Happiness series, and they've all become bestsellers

1282
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: on Amazon. They seem to resonate with people. They inspire people.

1283
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: That's my thing. I want to motivate people and inspire

1284
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 2: people that no matter what's going on in your life,

1285
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: is a possibility that tomorrow is going to be better.

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Speaker 2: You know that we're not mind readers. Every single person

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Speaker 2: in your life that you know, there was a day

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Speaker 2: before you met them and you had no idea you

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Speaker 2: were going to meet them, and then you met them

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Speaker 2: and something is different in your life, you know, And

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Speaker 2: so it's important for people to hold on to those

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Speaker 2: thoughts so that when things are rough, when you're having

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Speaker 2: a rough day, that you can shift your consciousness and

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Speaker 2: think of something different and be grateful for the things

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Speaker 2: that you do have and realize that tomorrow can be

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Speaker 2: much better. You know. As an EmPATH, I used to think,

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Speaker 2: if I was sad today, I'm going to be sad

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Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. There's no hope for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to be sad and depressed. And I

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Speaker 2: didn't know how to shift my thinking in those days

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Speaker 2: and had to change of thought. And that's what I've

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Speaker 2: learned that thoughts are not facts. Feelings are not facts,

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Speaker 2: and thoughts are not facts, and thoughts our thoughts are

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Speaker 2: not necessarily based on our experience. They're based on our

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Speaker 2: interpretation of our experience. Which is why you can have

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Speaker 2: siblings that are completely different people, and if you ask

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Speaker 2: them about their childhood, you'd think they had different parents.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a whole that's the next podcast. You have

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Speaker 1: to come back. We need to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Come back anytime you want, Liddy, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Gurian just write this name down, just google him

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Speaker 3: and watch everything he's involved in because you will feel

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Speaker 3: better after, I promise. Jeffrey Gurian, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for your time today and coming on comedy saved me

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Speaker 3: and I really do truly hope that you come back

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Speaker 3: and best wishes, good luck with everything you do in

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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 1: And thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Lynn, It's been very special spending this

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Speaker 2: hour with you, and I hope you do ask me

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Speaker 2: to come back. I'd love to come back again. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much.