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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Oh, we got a lot for

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Speaker 1: you guys today. We gotta talk about a question that

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Speaker 1: I was asked, what does spring practice actually do for you?

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Speaker 1: Is this even a worthwhile time? And then the same

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Speaker 1: actually impacts recruiting in football as well. So Queen's College

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Speaker 1: actually think that their coach and other coaches being upset

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Speaker 1: We also have to talk about who is the top

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Speaker 1: these five star freshmen, these high four star freshmen.

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Speaker 2: But we never look at the age right.

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Speaker 1: And then the NFL Draft, there is a trend because

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Speaker 1: The question that I was asked, was what does spring

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Speaker 1: practice do for you? Because a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: looking at Kurt Signetti. He was like, I don't even

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Speaker 1: use all my spring practices. Our practices are like all

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Speaker 1: So the reason why spring practice matters, in my personal

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Speaker 1: That's where your confidence to go into the fall and

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Speaker 1: finished watching a bunch of players that you played with

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, or players that you played against. After my

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Speaker 1: freshman year at Oregon, I was one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: So going into spring ball, going against other players, it

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Speaker 1: Don't play football from like if you play football basically

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Speaker 1: Now for newer coaches, I believe that in terms of

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Speaker 1: trying to wonder, oh are these freshmen who checked in

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Speaker 1: So it gives you the opportunity to identify developmental players

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Speaker 1: Drive up the price, because I guarantee you if Queens

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Speaker 1: It is selfish, It is selfish, and it is not right.

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Speaker 1: Nevada Football's head coach Choke. He just recently said his

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Speaker 1: sales pitch in recruiting is, Guys, I know you were

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Speaker 1: We will develop you and go get And his quote

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Speaker 2: Coach, you get a better job, you.

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Speaker 1: Make more money. This is a rising tide lifts all ships.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop living in a scarcity mindset. Let's start living

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Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of coaches out there

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Speaker 1: Look at what at what happened at a school like

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Speaker 2: Their quarterback, Kayden Pinnick. He's at UC Davis.

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Speaker 1: You see, Davis can only pay him, you know, seventy

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Speaker 1: Washington State and all these schools come come offering seven,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand million dollars, are you supposed to say no,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It's different if the finances are close, right,

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Speaker 1: If you're saying, all right, some school offers the school

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Speaker 1: that that's the ceiling for what they can pay. Another

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. These coaches don't really notice it.

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Speaker 1: So, Ralph, there's been a lot of people who have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is what I really wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: So I find that interesting because you the natural thinking

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think that you have guys who

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Speaker 1: So I think that that that's why the younger players

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Speaker 1: Ralph And part of this goes back to the age

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: But if you think about it, they're a year older

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Speaker 3: What do you think the what do you think youth

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Speaker 3: high school level. They both have multiple years of eligibility left.

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Speaker 3: And there's some people who say that Dylan Tieneman would

439
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: have as well, that he would have had multiple years

440
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: of collegiate eligibility left. I've seen him listed as a junior,

441
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: and I've seen him listed as a red shirt sophomore

442
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: in certain places. But what do you think it's worth? Like, so,

443
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: if Caleb Blomo, same tape, same exact tape, but he's

444
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: twenty three and not twenty one at the time of draft,

445
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: what do you think that's worth to some of these teams?

446
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: Nothing is different, not a single thing is different. If

447
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: Kleb Blomu or Colton Hood is twenty three with the

448
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: tape they have now versus twenty one, dang.

449
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: Oh, then they're gonna say, oh, man, you know, between

450
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: his last two years, we feel like he should have

451
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: got a little bit better. All of a sudden, the

452
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: quote unquote flaws in his game looked much much bigger,

453
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: much bigger.

454
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: Because that and that's so wild, because like, what is

455
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: the difference between training a twenty one year old and

456
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: a twenty three year old on the same skill sets

457
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: with the same coaching, Like, what, genuinely, what is the difference?

458
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: I wonder?

459
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: No, I think it's more perception than anything else. And honestly, Ralph,

460
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: like this reminds me a lot of this whole thing

461
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: when obviously he relates to my kids, but also when

462
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: I was coming out in the draft, I was twenty

463
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: one until like right before the draft started. I got

464
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: played in my last college football season at twenty one,

465
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: and then and then I turned twenty two right in

466
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: April of that way, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I turned

467
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: twenty two that year, right right before the draft in April.

468
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: So at that age, I feel like your body's in

469
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: a good spot.

470
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: You are.

471
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Speaker 1: I've definitely wasn't mature enough to be going to the NFL,

472
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: but a lot of times your talent and God given

473
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: ability takes you to places you're not mentally, emotionally and

474
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: spiritually ready for. But if I had to choose between

475
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: drafting a younger player and an older player right twenty

476
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: three and older, if I've had a it also depends

477
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: on the position too, right, because it's the physical traits,

478
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Because if I see somebody who is productive on film,

479
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: but then they also have explosive traits like special traits,

480
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: then yes, I'm going to draft you high. But a

481
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: lot of times teams they get so focused it's kind

482
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: of like the five Star thing Ralph, where they're sitting

483
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: there drafting I'm sorry, where they are ranking five star

484
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: players based upon their traits more than anything else. This

485
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: reminds me of when I was coming out in the draft.

486
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I was twenty one years old. I played my last

487
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: season at twenty one, and then got drafted at twenty

488
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: two years old.

489
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

490
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Mature enough to be in the league for sure, because

491
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: a lot of times your god given ability takes you

492
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: to places that you're not mentally, emotionally and spiritually ready for.

493
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: But physically I was good. I was ready to go.

494
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: And so if I had to choose between drafting a

495
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: twenty three year old who has good tape and the

496
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: measurables are for real, Like the measurables are jump off

497
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: the screen for you, and he's twenty three or an

498
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: underclassman whose measurables jump off the screen. I'm probably gonna

499
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: draft a twenty three year old because I want more

500
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: mature guys. And but usually the physical freaks don't stay

501
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: in college for four years, you know what I mean, Like,

502
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: your freakiness gets you out early. Like I was a

503
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: junior when I came out. Imagine, like Anthony Richardson, you

504
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: get so enamored. Oh my god, look at him, Look

505
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: at him, big old arm throws it through the roof.

506
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Speaker 2: They ignored the.

507
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: Tape, and they ignored the tape a lot of times,

508
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: like when they drafted Matt Jones and Jacksonville.

509
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Like like the.

510
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: Tape said, yes, he should be a draft pick, but

511
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: not you know, middle of the first round.

512
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: But that's what they're looking for in the first round.

513
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: Though.

514
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Speaker 1: Ralph is freakish, especially at the top of the first round. Freakish,

515
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, looking good getting off the bus for the

516
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: more like you have to have it an elite at

517
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: least one, but probably multiple elite traits and usually physically

518
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: imposing to get drafted that high.

519
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: It's just wild to me how much how much it

520
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: flips right from from the first round where at like

521
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: the youngest players available mostly are getting taken to then

522
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: just skip to the third round, skip to the third

523
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: round the NFL draft. Take the last three drafts, and

524
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: this will tell you exactly who nflgms are and how

525
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: they operate, because you know, we just established that it's

526
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: like a three to one likelihood of a twenty one

527
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: or younger being taken over a twenty three year older

528
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: in the first round, but when you get to the

529
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: third round, it is very, very different. Three years ago,

530
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: twenty players in the third round were twenty three or older.

531
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: Only three we're twenty one or younger. In two years

532
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: ago that was twenty two to five in favor of

533
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: twenty three plus year old prospects. And just this last year,

534
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five draft was fifteen twenty three year

535
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: olds to six twenty one or younger. And there's a

536
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: guy who covers college football. He's super talented. We got

537
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: to get him on this show. His name is Sean

538
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: Jaya Rajah and he wrote this awesome article last year.

539
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: This is last April leading up to the NFL draft

540
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: to talk about the effect of the fact that you

541
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: actually have less twenty one or unders coming out that

542
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: if you go back to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft,

543
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty eight underclassmen went into the draft

544
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: and twenty eight when undrafted, so one in five basically

545
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: is going undrafted. But if you fast forward to the

546
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four NFL Draft, only fifty eight underclassmen entered

547
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: and only five went undrafted, so it went from one

548
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: in five to one in ten and the number got

549
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: cut in half.

550
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Speaker 1: So now the question is does that make the league better? Like,

551
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: does that put a better product in the NFL because

552
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: guys are older because they're opting for an additional year

553
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: Because it's clear the number supported that more players are

554
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: opting for because they can get paid for that senior

555
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: year of college. I believe that that makes the draft

556
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: competition that much tighter, right because you are competing against

557
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: more seasoned players. And then also it makes the NFL

558
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: product better because you're gonna have less busts, or technically

559
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: you should because players are more developed when they come

560
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: in and you don't have to develop them at the

561
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: same rate that you used to.

562
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Speaker 3: And there's got to be. I mean, you've been in

563
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: this situation. I haven't clearly, but there's got to be

564
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: no worse feeling. As a fan, it feels pretty terrible.

565
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: So there's got to be no worse feeling than the

566
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: doubts that creep in as the rounds are going on

567
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: that you left eligibility on the table and you're not

568
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: getting drafted where you thought you were going to get drafted.

569
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I do you know what? It's funny?

570
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: I did think about that, like months and years after

571
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: the draft. I had a second round grade going the

572
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: fourth round. Very beginning of the fourth round set up

573
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: character issues, even though I had never been in trouble.

574
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: But still I always think about what would have happened

575
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: had I gone out the next year, And granted my

576
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: life has turned out really well, I may have and

577
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I always look at things like a blessing, whereas had

578
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: I gone out Because I have spinal synosis, and when

579
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: I finished playing, I go to the back doctor like, YO,

580
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: looking at this, MRI, I'm surprised you were able to

581
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: walk in here. People would crawl in here looking with

582
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: it with neck and back in Myriyes, that looked like this.

583
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: So I look at it as a blessing. I got

584
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: a chance to play, you know, six years in the league,

585
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: then have a cup of coffee with the Giants, and

586
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: then go to the UFL and play for a season.

587
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: If I go earlier, I may go to a situation

588
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: where I don't go to Jacksonville where we're mainly a

589
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: running team. I go somewhere and I'm catching fifty sixty

590
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: seventy balls a year and then I break my neck.

591
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: Youar me? That could have been the thing?

592
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: Is that me being in a system that was more

593
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: fit for me where I catch more balls exposes me

594
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: to more risk, more hits, which could have put me

595
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: in a worse position after. So I try to look

596
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: at things as a positive and not.

597
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: Look at it.

598
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, things could have been so great had

599
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: I come out.

600
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: Who is yours?

601
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: I have?

602
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: But then I might not have my kids, I might

603
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: not have my wife, I might like the things could

604
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: have worked out?

605
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: Is butterfly fac very true? But I know you're a human,

606
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: and I know you're a football fan. Who is your

607
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: poster child for should have stayed? Should have stayed one

608
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: more year? I'll give you mine. I'll give you mine

609
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: while you think about it, Okay, as a man by

610
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: the name of Brett Smith, and of course you're not

611
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: going to be surprised by this. Brett Smith was the

612
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: Mountain West Freshman of the Year in twenty eleven. He was

613
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: a three year starter at Wyoming from twenty eleven to

614
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen. Eighty eight hundred passing yard, seventy six touchdowns,

615
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: sixteen hundred USh yards, twenty touchdowns. He was a monster.

616
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: He had a year of eligibility left he decided to

617
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: come out. He went undrafted, got a camp invite to

618
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in twenty fourteen, but spent twenty

619
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: fourteen with the Toronto Argonauts. Was in Canadian football for

620
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: the next three years. He only really played for the

621
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: Saskatchewan rough Riders in twenty fifteen, so he never really

622
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: got any run. He could have been Wyoming's all time

623
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: great as a as a quarterback. Instead, he finished his

624
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: career with fifteen career professional touchdown passes, all in the CFL.

625
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, he's my biggest what if of all time.

626
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: For me.

627
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: And this is a kid I know, and I'm wishing

628
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: the best for him, But I would say Amar Bailey

629
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: in basketball, goes to UCLA freshman year, comes out pretty

630
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: sure he's gonna be a second round draft pick, but

631
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: he goes anyway. And I wanted him to stay at

632
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: UCLA for another year. Nil was there. It could have

633
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: made big money in college too, and I think that

634
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: that second year would have put him. When you're a

635
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: second round pick in the NBA, unless you come out

636
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: and just absolutely kill it, it's tough to stick. And

637
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of what he's dealing with. And so I

638
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: wish him the best, but I definitely wish he had

639
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: stayed at school one more year.

640
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: Well you might get your wish because he was on

641
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: an official visit to Grand Canyon University like three weeks ago.

642
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but I don't know if that's gonna

643
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's gonna it pan out with

644
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: the way that it's panned out for a lot of

645
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: other you know, guys who've come come back.

646
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: You know who ruined this the whole, Like I'll go

647
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: in a second round will be a blessing? Is your

648
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: boy that he went to high school.

649
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: With Gilbert Ratings, Yeah, yeah, because he instead of great,

650
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's worked out for for Jo Kich Draymond Green,

651
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: but I think Draymond Green was out of eligibility.

652
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: But still like it's worked out for some players, but you.

653
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 4: Can't pnd them going last in the draft, being a

654
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: top three player, only having a two year deal and

655
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: getting a sixty six million dollar contract by the time

656
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Speaker 4: you're twenty one.

657
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: Yes, like I think Gilbert, I think anybody who is

658
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: trying to follow in Gilbert Arena's footsteps got to have

659
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: like really strong legs to be able to carry the

660
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 3: clown shoes that it takes. Like he he is a

661
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: true pioneer, an absolute true pioneer in everything he does.

662
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: Not a role model though Charles Barkley style, don't do.

663
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: It as a fact.

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Speaker 1: But I want to take to take this before he

665
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: finishes conversation into the recruiting world. So when it comes

666
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: to holebacks, right, I want you guys to start paying

667
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: attention to the age of recruits, age of recruits and

668
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: because the older ones, like guys who were nineteen their

669
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: senior year, when we get twenty year old freshmen, those

670
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: guys typically don't pan out the same way that that

671
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: other guys do. So I want you all to pay

672
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: attention to that so, Ralph, how often actually I know

673
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: because we've talked about it, But tell everybody how often

674
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: you actually like look at the ages of players when

675
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: you're looking at recruits.

676
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: I don't have to. All I have to do is

677
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: say something good about a player to a parent that

678
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: is not of that kid, and I will find out

679
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: the age of that kid immediately.

680
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: That's that is a bro that is number one. Because parents,

681
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: the first thing that you say is, yeah, yeah.

682
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: He's he's he's he's young though, yeah he's young, or man,

683
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: he's an old kid, like he's a he's a double

684
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: hole back, Like we're not even acknowledged, Like there's a

685
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: sense of we're not even acknowledging what you're doing with

686
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: double holdbacks, and there's a yeah, or even sometimes if

687
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: you're an older, young one time holdback, they're like, yeah,

688
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: it's different. So yeah, you are right, Ralph. The parents

689
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: will definitely tell the story on you.

690
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, and it doesn't even have to be the parents.

691
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 3: And this has been my life, Love, I've existed in

692
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: this recruiting space since twenty twelve, and it's not even anything.

693
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: This is just an observation. It's nothing I asked for.

694
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: I usually don't get into it. Three of my four

695
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: kids are holdbacks, not even for athletic reasons. They're like yours.

696
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: They win in early to see if they can hang.

697
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: The COVID year happened and I was like, six of

698
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: us can't use the internet at the same time. So

699
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: we took a year off. We went, we went high king,

700
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: we enjoyed ourselves right.

701
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: And so.

702
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: I have a bunch of kids. I have three boys

703
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: who will be eighteen for their entire senior year. But

704
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: I remember one high school football game I was covering,

705
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: and it will definitely come up in conversation. If you

706
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: ask a parent, I'll be like, nah, I really like

707
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: this kid. They'd be like, you know, they're a year

708
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: Like there's a dB. There's a back at UCLA right

709
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: now who I've never been able to say anything good

710
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: about without people bringing up his age ever, and people

711
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: they could probably find out if they looked. But there

712
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 3: was a quarterback, Jacob Conover and one of my favorite

713
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 3: high school quarterbacks of all time, and he was playing

714
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: in the playoffs his senior year of high school and

715
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: the other school's opposing student section. This is actually where

716
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: Caleb Lomu went to school, who we just talked about earlier.

717
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: The opposing student section brought like a walker and a cane.

718
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: And because the day of the playoff game was his

719
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: nineteenth birthday, so like November of his senior year, he

720
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: was turning nineteen, and they sung him Happy Birthday and

721
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: they had like boxes of poly dent and they were

722
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: like they had like bright haired wigs, and so like

723
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: people will just tell you, they'll they'll just tell you.

724
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: Jaden Rashada's first call. It start as a freshman. He

725
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: turned twenty like during that game, and it was a

726
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: very big topic of conversation. And so you don't have

727
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: to you don't have to say much. People will just

728
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: bring it up. But when somebody's young, it's the exact

729
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: same way. He'd be like, hey, you know this kid

730
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: is playing up right, And that's the same in basketball too.

731
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: You know this kid's playing up It just comes up.

732
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 3: People are obsessed with age.

733
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: Get that.

734
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: That's a fact, and everybody's gonna be able to relate

735
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: to that one. Hey, but you guys, though, in just

736
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: a minute, it is top ten time here on the show,

737
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: So make sure you keep it like, subscribe, share, get notifications,

738
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: Tell a friend, about the show. This is unafraid show,

739
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: all right. Now, it's top for us to have fun.

740
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: And we got a top ten list for you guys today,

741
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: our top ten most unbelievable performances by people that were

742
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: very unexpected. And this comes on the hills of Bam

743
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: out of Bayo for the Miami Heat scored eighty three

744
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: points in a game and Ralph as a Kobe got

745
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: it made me upset. I don't know why it was

746
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: such a hater moment inside of me. I wasn't mad

747
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: at Bam at of Bayo. I was mad at Eric Sposter.

748
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: I was mad at the Washington Wizards because this was

749
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: gross they were following at the end of the game.

750
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: It was a bush league performance and it was horrible. Right.

751
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: But if I was bamed my mic no, it took

752
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: myself out of the game. I would have done the

753
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: honorable Kobe thing when Kobe took itself out with sixty

754
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: one points against the Dallas Mavericks.

755
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: But I digress.

756
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: But can I tell you that I hated it as

757
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 3: I and I'm not. I spent most of my life

758
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: as a basketball fan on the receiving end of the

759
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: stuff that Kobe would do and I don't know, Like

760
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: for me, it didn't have as much to do with

761
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: Kobe as it did like just the general erosion of

762
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: NBA defense and like the game has been solved, like

763
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: bam Adebayo has point guard handles, like it's just a

764
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: game where everyone can do everything.

765
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: And it made.

766
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: Fowling in the last three minutes of a game.

767
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: Yes, up, nasty, unethical. I feel you nasty. I get

768
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: all that, But do you know what I kind of

769
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: liked about it?

770
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: What was there, Like.

771
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: It's been a minute since the Kobe fans have lost

772
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: their mind on the internet.

773
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Dude, it it felt like an attack.

774
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: It felt like an attack on Kobe because we're like,

775
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: oh my god, bam scored eighty three and then I

776
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: went and looked forty three free throws.

777
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 2: It was gross. It was gross.

778
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: But you know how, you know, all these kids are

779
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: nostalgic for like twenty sixteen, Like everybody's like the world

780
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: was good up until twenty sixteen. Yeah, that's how it

781
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: gave me the nostalgia of like I remember twenty sixteen

782
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 3: when Kobe fans wouldn't shut up. They're just mad about

783
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: something all day every day, and they do a lot

784
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: of season.

785
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gave Steve Nash two ridiculous MVPs Insteadico because

786
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: they hated him at the time.

787
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: It was terrible.

788
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 3: Disagree. You can keep your championship rings. I want my

789
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: twenty points, ten assists MVPs back to back, Thank you

790
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 3: very much.

791
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: God. That was the worst, the worst MVPs of all time.

792
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: But let me explain to you guys how crazy bam

793
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: at of Bayo's game was. So we got a math man,

794
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: a stack guy put it out, said bam out of

795
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: bio broke math. His eighty three point game was eight

796
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: and a half standard deviations above his career average, or

797
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: one in fifty three quadrillion, and based on career averages,

798
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: it's like Patrick Mahomes passing for nine hundred and fifteen yards,

799
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: which doesn't seem impossible in like in a come where

800
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: it was the old overtime rules. Justin Berlander throwing two

801
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen pitches in a start that only feels

802
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: possible in softball, and Chamberlain grabbing seventy nine rebounds, which

803
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't know against people who's playing against it probably

804
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: feels possible. And then he said, for the math peeps,

805
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: no scoring points in the NBA isn't a perfectly normal distribution. Yes,

806
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: events like points and in the NBA game are more

807
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: susceptible to extreme outliers. On the high side, Yes, external

808
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: factors in circumstances impact results, So don't be a gatekeeper,

809
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: is what he has said. So with that said, we

810
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: have our top ten list of things that we saw

811
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: in sports that we were just like, wait, wait what

812
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: he did?

813
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: What? Or she did what? I'll go first, Ralph my first.

814
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever forget where I

815
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: was and what I was doing. In nineteen ninety when

816
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson went to go fight Buster Douglas in Tokyo

817
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: and Buster Douglas knocked out Mike Tyson, it was like

818
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: knocking out Samson. It was like knocking out the strongest man,

819
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: the most feared man in the universe. And then you

820
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: realize we're all We're all just mortal men. So that

821
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: was a humbling experience.

822
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna counter with twenty fourteen World Cup because that's

823
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 3: really the only time I watched soccer is when the

824
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: World Cup comes along.

825
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: Me too, I'm the big soccer fan in the entire world.

826
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: During World Cup.

827
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course of course, and then I don't even think.

828
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: I don't even think about it the rest of the year.

829
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: But I will give you the date. July first. It's

830
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: the middle of summer, and we had just come off

831
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: a draw against Portugal and the United States of America Americans, correct,

832
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: So what do you think I was, Yeah, so we

833
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: had just come off a draw against Portugal. We beat Nigeria,

834
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: and it was like, oh, are we like, do we

835
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: have a chance because Portugal is legit and we were

836
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: heading into a match against Belgium, and so I like,

837
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 3: I sat down on the couch, I like cleared my day.

838
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 3: It's the middle of summer, but like, I am locked

839
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 3: in on this. And then I watched Tim Howard break

840
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: the record for saves in a World Cup match.

841
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: Oh yes, because they were just and it was an

842
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: assault on the on the goal. Oh yeah, no, it

843
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: was defense that you've seen.

844
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: It was one on the entire country of Belgium. It

845
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: was what it was one v everyone and we think

846
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: we lost in overtime to Belgium to one, but Tim

847
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 3: Howard still got man in the match. So Tim Howard

848
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: breaking the saves record for me, that came out of nowhere.

849
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: Because like the only time I'm watching soccer is is

850
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: during the World Cup. I know that we're not good,

851
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's like, do we have

852
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 3: the best soccer player on Earth Team America? But like, yeah,

853
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: I just first that one for me stands out well.

854
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: Your your your first mistake is that you were watching

855
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: men's USA soccer. You should have been watching the women.

856
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: That's a much more enjoyable experience. My next one, number

857
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: three Jeremy Lynn in twenty twelve when he went that

858
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: had the Kobe game at Madison Square Garden and then

859
00:50:53,080 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: also over a twelve game stretch, Lynn sanity happened twenty

860
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: two and a half points, eight and a half sorry,

861
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: eight point seven assists.

862
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: Jeremy Lynn like he broke. He broke.

863
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: He went in in a place that he never was

864
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: able to go back to again.

865
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: And maybe his hit his Harvor his Harvard brain.

866
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: He got too logical, tried to figure out how he

867
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: did it and all this stuff, and he was not

868
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: able to get back to the place that Lynn sanity

869
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: came from. But listen, the desk testament broken clock is

870
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: right twice a day.

871
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: I love Jeremy Lynn. I remember watching that game live,

872
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 3: the Kobe game, and just like that. That was maybe

873
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: the most fun I ever had watching a basketball game

874
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: because it was so so unlikely. And it's also it's cool,

875
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 3: like real basketball fans love when the Knicks do something.

876
00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: I I get it.

877
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: If you're a Celtics fan and you disagree, or you're

878
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: a Sixers fan, you disagree, you want them to be

879
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 3: bad forever. If you're just a basketball fan, like when

880
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: something is happening in New York, the whole sport's more exciting.

881
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 3: My next one happened against your Dodgers. Actually, I'm gonna

882
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: give you a date. I'm gonna give you a date

883
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: and see if you can actually guess what it is.

884
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 3: April twenty third, nineteen ninety nine.

885
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: That's the beginning of the season, early in the season,

886
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. You're a Diamondbacks guy, so it's gotta

887
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: be something with.

888
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: Ninety nine.

889
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if I was a Diamondbacks guy then,

890
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: because that's like year one or two.

891
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't know what happened.

892
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is uh, this is Champo Park versus

893
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: Fernando Tattis Senior. Two great slams in one inning off

894
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 3: the same picture. Oh, two grand slams in one inning

895
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 3: off the same picture.

896
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: Remember chan Ho Park. Oh god, that's atrocious. Oh young,

897
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's that's horrendous. And Tatis was a

898
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: good player, but not that damn good where like like

899
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: he was okay, but he wasn't a dude that you

900
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: would expect to hit two Grand slams, let alone one.

901
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: But I think people get con I think people maybe

902
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: don't remember Fernando tattoss accurately or appropriately. In part of that,

903
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: I think is because of his son, who also has

904
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: a multi home run game against the Dodgers, which is

905
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: another completely insane statistic. But Fernando Tatis had one hundred

906
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 3: and thirteen career home runs, that's it, in all almost

907
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: a thousand games played. So two of those came in

908
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: one inning against the same guy in the middle of

909
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: what was by far, his like by a million miles,

910
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 3: his best season. He had thirty four home runs that year.

911
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 3: He never had over eighteen in any other season. In

912
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: the matrix, He's five eleven, one eighty. Like the likelihood

913
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: of that happening bill never never ever happened again, And

914
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: even Channel Bark still be into the game because the

915
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 3: manager had gotten tossed in the middle of the inning,

916
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: so just no one came and got him. They just

917
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: left him out there.

918
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: Let him.

919
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: They just let a starting pitcher die up there. Yes, wait,

920
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: which which inning was it.

921
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: Early? I want to say it was like third or

922
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: fourth inning? There was Oh no, it was super early.

923
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: If it happened in the first inning, yes, because you

924
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: don't have anybody warmed up everything like that. But thirty No,

925
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: they should have had somebody ready, all right. Number five,

926
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, David Tyres catch in the Super

927
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: Bowl against the undefeated Patriots on the side of his head. Now,

928
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: mind you, I went to the Giants the next year.

929
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: Everybody talked about mind you. They talked about it on television, right,

930
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: but like when people tell the story back, but in

931
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 1: real life, in the locker room the very next year,

932
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: people were still talking. I have no idea how he

933
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: caught that ball. He dropped everything that entire week. And

934
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: also he was mainly a special teams guy, so him

935
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: being in that position was already weird.

936
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: And then him.

937
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: Making a catch like that, a guy who is who

938
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: was notoriously just an average catcher of the football to

939
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: make a catch like, I don't think Jerry Rice could

940
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: have made that catch. Only somebody unlikely could have made

941
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: that catch Angels in the outfield moment. So yes, that

942
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: that was incredible.

943
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: David Tyree career receptions. Do you know how many catches

944
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: he had in his whole career?

945
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: How many years did he play? He?

946
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: I think pretty similar to you. He got He got

947
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: six years, with the last couple being like ten total

948
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 3: games because of injuries.

949
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I might have more more catches than the David

950
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: Tyree did.

951
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: Let me check. I'll pull that up right now. I'll

952
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: be able to tell you if you have more career

953
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: catches than David Tyree.

954
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: So I have nine regular season touchdowns and you need

955
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: something catches.

956
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 3: You had ninety four catches. You had twice as many catches,

957
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: twice as many touchdowns in your career.

958
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: Statement, but he's got a moment.

959
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: Were you for a for a brief moment, were you

960
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 3: on the same roster?

961
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, yep, Yeah, So I saw him and that

962
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: was highly unimpressed as a like, as a guy who

963
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: as a catcher. Now, mind you, was a good football player,

964
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't mistake him for having the best hands

965
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: on the team at.

966
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 3: All, but his name elicits a reaction in every football fan.

967
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: Correct, don't remember where you were when you saw that?

968
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: Do you want to know where I was when I

969
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: saw that?

970
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: Where?

971
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 3: At the New England Patriots Super Bowl after party setting up?

972
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: That place was quiet, well, hell, that place was quiet

973
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: as hell.

974
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: The ball trapped here, and you're just like, come on, man,

975
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: ain't no way.

976
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: Earth Winding Fire was backwards.

977
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

978
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: Earth Wind and Fire was sound checking on stage. Alicia

979
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: Keys was hanging out in the in the ballroom, on

980
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: the floor. Everybody was staring at one big screen. No

981
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: one said a damn word. I was at the New

982
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 3: England Patriots super Bowl after party setting up when that happened.

983
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: Wild night, Yes, sir, all right. Next up for me,

984
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 3: I got a question for you. Do you know where

985
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 3: Curry College? Is?

986
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: Never even heard of? Curry College?

987
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: I you and probably most most people outside of Milton, Massachusetts,

988
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 3: where it is located. Where this football season this year,

989
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: a five foot nine, one eighty pound running back from

990
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: Goose Creek, South Carolina, a very good D three running

991
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: back who finished his college career with seven thousand yards rushing,

992
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: went into a game his this is his senior year.

993
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: He went into a game coming off of back to

994
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: back monster performances. He was against New England College. They

995
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: won by fifty five. He had sixteen carries for two

996
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen yards. And then Maine Maritime, which I've

997
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 3: also never heard of, they beat sixty to nothing. He

998
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: had fifty carries for one hundred and seventy nine yards.

999
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: He's coming off to monster performances, and they they are

1000
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: playing nichols not Nickels, State, just Nicholsky, who came in

1001
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: at two and three, and they gave this man, Monty Curry,

1002
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: the running back Monty Curry. They gave this man the

1003
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: ball twenty times. Okay, what do you think he did

1004
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: with those twenty carries, George.

1005
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 1: Well, he just had fifty for one seventy nine, which

1006
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: ain't which it's a deecit.

1007
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen fifteen carries for one seventy nine the week before.

1008
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you said fifty fifteen fifteen Oh oh okay, okay, okay, okay,

1009
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: So we're getting.

1010
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: Upset, so give him five more carries the next game.

1011
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: What do you think he did.

1012
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: If he did something absurd?

1013
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: Because he's on this list, let's go four hundred and

1014
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: twenty yards.

1015
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: Okay, twenty carries five hundred and twenty two yards smashed

1016
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: the ncublea single game record seven touchdowns.

1017
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: What where was the transfer portal?

1018
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: He had no where was playing against He had no

1019
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: business playing against these people?

1020
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: Where's the news?

1021
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: Yo? Yeah?

1022
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: He had back to back sixteen hundred yard seasons going

1023
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: into a senior year. Stays at Curry College. Ran for

1024
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: twenty four hundred yards this last season, and five hundred

1025
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: and twenty two of them came in one game.

1026
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: Why did we not know about this? Bro?

1027
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 3: Like, why wasn't it news? Why wasn't it Sports Center?

1028
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing it, But the ncublea record for

1029
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: most rushing yards in one game right now is by

1030
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: a guy named Monty Quinn from Curry College. And it

1031
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: happened on just twenty carries twenty six yards of carry.

1032
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: Bro.

1033
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: That's like when my anti ball and and Melvin wait

1034
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: wait Melvin, oh god, he played in San Diego, Melvin Gordon,

1035
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: they rushed for four hundred yards in like back to

1036
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: back weeks. It was like four oh seven and four

1037
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: to twenty six or something like that. It was crazy

1038
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: all right.

1039
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: I would be very fascinating to find out if Monty

1040
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: Quinn ends up on an NFL roster like as a

1041
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: call in or something like that, just off of this

1042
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 3: year's performances.

1043
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1044
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: Next one for me, I have to get a name

1045
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: pronunciation right, because the Internet helped me with this one.

1046
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: But I but it was funny because I remember seeing

1047
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: footage of this. But I was like, bro, this is crazy.

1048
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: So a bb Bkilas, Yeah, a bb Bikilas won the

1049
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: Olympic marathon in nineteen sixty in Rome and set a

1050
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: world record. That doesn't sound all that impressive, right until

1051
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: you realize that it was done barefoot, barefoot, Yes, twenty

1052
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: six point two miles barefoot and set a world record.

1053
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 3: I can't even walk to the trash can bearfoot without problems?

1054
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: Ralph, Ralph.

1055
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: If when I have people at my house, because we

1056
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: don't have shoes in the house, so you either have

1057
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: to wear some house slippers, like some only house only

1058
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: slippers or something. Bro, if I walk around my house

1059
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: for a whole day on these hardwood floors without something

1060
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: under my feet, my back is going to collapse. It

1061
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: is going to feel like like the gates of hell

1062
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: are in my lower back. And this man ran an

1063
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: entire marathon and set a record, yes instead of word

1064
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: you know.

1065
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: You know how many people probably got injured because of him?

1066
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: Bro, It's that's crazy.

1067
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: It's it's like old boy in the NFL now that

1068
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: won't put shoes on.

1069
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 3: Who walks into the stadium on that dirty cement?

1070
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: Mccollins, Yes, Bro, that's nasty. It's nasty.

1071
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: It might be effective because Troy, Troy Poler model used

1072
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: to train with no shoes on two in the off season.

1073
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,959
Speaker 1: But still, bro, like you, you can't be walking around

1074
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: that dirty ass feet. Bro, imagine the cow Oh god,

1075
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: how callous must your feet be for you to be

1076
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: able to run twenty six point two miles without injuring

1077
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: your feet?

1078
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: One misplaced rockets over Like, I don't understand. That's insane.

1079
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: That might be that might belong higher on this list.

1080
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: My next one is my introduction to pro football. Now,

1081
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 3: some people might disagree with this, but it was such

1082
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 3: an absurd performance that it got me hooked. And then

1083
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 3: to this day, I've never seen it again. So I

1084
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: feel tricked. I really feel deceived. And you and I

1085
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: might have actually talked about this before because this happened

1086
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: in I want to say, November of nineteen ninety six.

1087
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 3: I'm twelve. You didn't still mine, Okay, I got nervous.

1088
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: There's zero chance this would have ever come up on

1089
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: your radar. You're gonna make fun of me for even

1090
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: for even having it. But I was a huge NBA

1091
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: fan as a little kid, and I loved baseball, loved

1092
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: Tony Gwinn, loved the Atlanta Braves. Football was not on

1093
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 3: my radar until like a little bit ninety five, and

1094
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: definitely ninety six. Ninety six was my football awakening. I

1095
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: was twelve years old. Wyoming was good, Arizona State was good.

1096
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 3: I had this little Sony radio that I used to

1097
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: listen to games on, so I didn't even watch this

1098
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 3: game on TV. I listened to the entire thing on

1099
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: the radio. My introduction to the NFL came on November

1100
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: twenty fourth, nineteen ninety six, when Boomer asiasin quarterback of

1101
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. I got the date wrong. It was

1102
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: November tenth. Boomer Assison, quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals. This

1103
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: was his statline, George thirty five of fifty nine. Okay,

1104
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: five hundred and twenty two yards, three touchdowns, four interceptions

1105
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 3: in an overt against the then Washington Redskins.

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01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: Kay, I'm some failing to see how this feels.

1107
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: Of So okay, so it's absurd in in the context

1108
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: of what was happening at the time. Boomerasiasin was in

1109
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: the twilight of his career.

1110
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: He this was only his second game played. Uh, it

1112
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: was only his third start of the season, and it

1113
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: was toward the end of the season. No, it's and

1114
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: it has a little bit not to do with him.

1115
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 3: It has to do with everybody around him. Five hundred

1116
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: and twenty two yards passing no receiver over one hundred

1117
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: yards what?

1118
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he had he is absurd.

1119
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: He was he was dotting up everybody, and I like,

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01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: and again you have to understand, this is my first

1121
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: experience with football. So what's my takeaway from this?

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01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: George Boat, Yes exactly. He started.

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01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: He started approximately nine more games before his career was over.

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: So like Andy Dalton having stat line.

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01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: Yes, like right now? Yeah, yeah, and it being somebody's

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01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 3: first time the Arizona Cardinals win. So what was my assumption?

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01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are good and Boomers size is the best

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01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: quarterback ever, even though he threw.

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01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: Exactly Yes, the Cardinals are good and Boomer Assizon is

1130
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 3: the best quarterback ever.

1131
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: Wow, I could not have been more wrong about anything.

1132
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 3: No, this was the two free nights in Vegas in

1133
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: exchange for going to a timeshare seminar. That's what this

1134
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: was in my life. And I have been under the

1135
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 3: umbrella of this expensive ass timeshare for the last thirty

1136
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 3: years because of Boomer as siasin on some random November

1137
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 3: Sunday and it And if you look back at his career,

1138
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 3: is his only five hundred yard passing game. He only

1139
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 3: had like four where he went over four hundred. He

1140
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: had no essentially no career after that. I think he

1141
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: ended up like suing the organization, leaving the team early

1142
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: that same year. And the Cardinals have been in the

1143
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: last thirty years like the worst franchise. Yeah, imaginable. So

1144
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: that one really sticks out to me because it doesn't

1145
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: match up with the entire experience I've had since then.

1146
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that makes a lot of sense, all right.

1147
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: My last one, number nine, nineteen eighty eight, the Super Bowl,

1148
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: the Washington then Redskins versus the Denver Broncos do you

1149
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: know whose name I'm about to mention.

1150
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: Does the Super Bowl?

1151
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Yes, man rushed for two hundred and four yards and

1152
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: two touchdowns while being a rookie and only rushing for

1153
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six yards on the season prior

1154
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: to that. Give me the name Timmy Smith. Timmy Smith.

1155
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: So one of the Washington running back got hurt, so

1156
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: then Timmy Smith has to start. And this is the

1157
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: Doug Williams year.

1158
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 3: That's right, that's your boy.

1159
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 2: Yep. And so wait, hold on, wait did Doug Williams winning?

1160
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, I'll get him to

1161
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: edit this out.

1162
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: Timmy Smith.

1163
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was.

1164
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let me see Super Bowl twenty two.

1165
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: Step on his Wikipedia right now. This is absurd. Texas

1166
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,480
Speaker 3: Tech running back Mike Leach would be so disappointed.

1167
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So, so here's the crazy part about this, Ralph, Actually,

1168
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: let me see the time. It was about twenty five minutes.

1169
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1170
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: So, Ralph, this is the same Super Bowl that Doug

1171
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: Williams got the Super Bowl MVP. So you're probably like, George,

1172
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: how could if he have gotten the Super Bowl MVP

1173
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: and the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl?

1174
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: If Timmy Smith backup ran for two hundred and four

1175
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: yards on twenty two carries. Well, it's because Doug Williams

1176
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: went eighteen for twenty nine for three hundred and forty

1177
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: yards and four touchdowns and a pick. That's how So

1178
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: he's some kind of way outshine this incredible performance. So

1179
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: that makes it even more unheralded that it didn't even

1180
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: get you the Super Bowl MVP. And mind you, he

1181
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: still holds the record for most rest of the yards

1182
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl?

1183
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

1184
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: Yep?

1185
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 3: So I didn't know about this, and I looked it

1186
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: up as you were talking. This man's Wikipedia following the

1187
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 3: greatest performance of all time is a little depressing. It's

1188
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 3: a little bit depressing. Why he Okay, so he holds

1189
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: out after that and says, I need a new contract.

1190
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: When he comes to camp, he's twenty five pounds heavier

1191
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 3: than he was at the Super Bowl.

1192
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: Had a hell of an off season, Yeah he did.

1193
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: He makes it through the He makes it through the season,

1194
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 3: and Washington's like for they gave him a shot. He

1195
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: lost his starting job. He had four This reminds me

1196
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 3: of Troy Hambrick that he had four hundred and seventy

1197
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: yards in that whole year, and in the off season,

1198
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins offer him a undred thousand dollars, but

1199
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 3: he goes and visits the Phoenix Cardinals at the time

1200
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 3: and fails his physical and then signs with the Chargers

1201
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 3: for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and then gets

1202
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: photographed with a drug dealer and gets released before the

1203
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,520
Speaker 3: season starts.

1204
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 2: They didn't even have social media, so that's a setup.

1205
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 3: I but I do this is this is the thing

1206
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 3: that you'll love, getting photographed with a drug dealer and

1207
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 3: getting released. And this is nineteen ninety At this point,

1208
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: one NFL team calls him. When you think of nineteen

1209
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 3: ninety and drugs, what NFL team do you think gave

1210
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: him a shot?

1211
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions?

1212
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: How about them Cowboys?

1213
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense, this makes sense. This makes all

1214
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,919
Speaker 2: the sense in the world.

1215
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 3: That's insane. I didn't know any of this. That's so fun.

1216
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 3: I mean, part of it was fun. The rest of

1217
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 3: it maybe not so much fun. Yeah, my last one.

1218
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 3: And I debated this and I feel horrible. So here's

1219
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 3: what I didn't do. I was debating between one and

1220
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 3: the other, and I decided against Tony Delk drops fifty

1221
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 3: three in a game.

1222
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1223
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 3: People were like, yeah, he was a great college player,

1224
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 3: but he was not a great NBA player. He scored

1225
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 3: fifty three in a loss to the Kings in the

1226
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: final regular season game of like two thousand and one.

1227
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 3: He did it with only fifteen free throw attempts. And

1228
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: you know how many threes he made in that game, George,

1229
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: in what year two thousand and one? Oh, probably five zero?

1230
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 3: This man scored fifty three.

1231
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: There get buckets.

1232
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 3: He scored fifty three on twenty of twenty seven two

1233
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: point shooting. Love it nasty. I don't know if there's

1234
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: any fifty point games since in this millennium with But

1235
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 3: I didn't go with that one. I just wanted to

1236
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 3: give an honorable mention. My last one is one that

1237
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: tricked me almost as bad as Boomerasias and Tommy Fraser.

1238
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 3: Tommy Fraser's final college football game is the first college

1239
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: football game I ever watched start to finish, okay, ever,

1240
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: and it was the national championship. In early January of

1241
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, I had traveled just in Christmas with

1242
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 3: my grandparents Florida.

1243
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: Mm hm, oh mean stupid?

1244
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, nothing. My first college football game, I'm

1245
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 3: watching start to finish. This man had two hundred yards

1246
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: rushing and two touchdowns and looked like a superhuman. So

1247
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 3: in my head, Tommy Fraser must be like the goat.

1248
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 3: Right he did not have a hundred yard rushing game

1249
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 3: before that? Really, yeah, I have in my head, I

1250
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 3: have always thought that he was out there putting up

1251
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 3: fifty because you know, the most yards he ever threw

1252
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 3: for was thirteen hundred in a season. Even that that

1253
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 3: final year when he finished second in Heisman voting, Nebraska

1254
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 3: didn't pass the ball. No, the most passes he threw

1255
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 3: in a game that year was twenty three.

1256
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: They were a triple option team. That is so crazy.

1257
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: I would have thought he would have had one hundred

1258
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,759
Speaker 1: yards rushing prior to that, because you're running the triple

1259
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: option and your quarterback ends up with a ton of yards.

1260
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: No, he on the season in twelve games had eight

1261
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 3: hundred and three yards rushing and one ninety nine came

1262
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: in the Fiesta Bowl. So, like my whole life, most

1263
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 3: of my life, I grew up thinking like, oh, Tommy

1264
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: Frasier was that dude all four years of college? And

1265
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 3: truth is, he didn't really play his junior year because

1266
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 3: he had the blood clots and stuff like that. Yeah,

1267
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: but he went out on like the absolute highest of highs.

1268
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: He wasn't actually doing that on a regular basis during

1269
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 3: Nebraska's back to back title runs.

1270
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: That's crazy, hey, man, See, this is why history will

1271
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 1: like our memories and the way we remember things.

1272
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh it'll trick you bad. Oh, it'll trick you bad.

1273
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 3: There's somebody who watched their first basketball game when they

1274
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 3: saw Bam had thirty. There's some kid out there who's

1275
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 3: like thirty in the first quarter and their dad turns

1276
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 3: it on and they watched bam Adebayo get triple team

1277
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter.

1278
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Bam is the greatest. He might be

1279
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: the goat. Yep, one hundred percent. That's how. Kids who

1280
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: was it?

1281
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: One of the younger NBA players said that Paul George

1282
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: was his goat, Like, what's how? But if you grew

1283
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,520
Speaker 1: up watching you know, when he was playing in Indiana

1284
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: in your first experiences, or him like on a like

1285
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 1: a week long run of scoring forty eight or something

1286
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: like that, going going hot, then yeah, that can give

1287
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: you that.

1288
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 3: I'm my first I'll tell you this George, the first

1289
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 3: girl that I ever kissed. She done a lot of

1290
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 3: prison time. That's a nice lady to me. She has

1291
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 3: quite a rap sheet, but she can do no wrong.

1292
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: And if I had have been on that jury, she

1293
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 3: was getting off, not kuilty.

1294
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 2: And with that we were end the show.

1295
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, Like share, subscribe, get notifications, Tell a

1296
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: friend about the show. Peace out, Catch you guys later.