1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: myself LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: fs R. 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: Get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Cause I'm a simple can man. 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 4: Why are you getting in the yard? 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: Just a simple kind of man. Bruh getting him in zoom. 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't know how to do. 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how to get into stream yard and 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: zoom at the same time. 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: The fact that we've got to do both, it's so weird. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: I would have done the yard, but. 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Lee's like, well, we need to do zoom so that 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: I have it in better quality so that we can 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: do it for our podcast. 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're in the bolt yesterday. 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: No I wasn't. You were. 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: I went into one earlier and then I went into 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: the other, and my I only. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Have one camera. Lee, I know that I have one camera. 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 5: I know that I was very impressed. 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: I was not. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 5: I promise you you were. But that's okay. 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: You could see me on both Lee, Yes, I couldn't 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: see you, and I don't know how that worked. 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 5: Probably because you went yard first and then and then zoom. 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: But that's okay, that's all good. 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: You've been drinking, Lee, that's all I'm gonna say. You're lying. 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: You know what I was lying. 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: Lee. 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: You're lying, and you might as well drink you already 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: have anyway. 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 6: You know what's interesting that as well, Lee gets combative 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 6: when he's sober, he's drunk or drinking, he's actually like 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 6: a good time Lee. Lee is not a nice person 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 6: when he's sober. 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 5: That's very true, very defensive. 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like it's like, oh all the all the 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 6: realities of your life, people call you out on. 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: One time if he told the truth once, like it's 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: the problem is Lee is not believable because he always lies. 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 7: He's an only child, to which plays a portion of that. 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 5: That's true. 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 4: I mean, the guy might be going through withdrawals on 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: the air, and when we are not letting him slide 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: for a. 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 5: Second that you guys are driving me back to the bottom. 54 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's your fault. 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 7: You did this. 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: You guys want this. 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 4: I'll go back at least least pitching a no hitter. 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: And you guys are trying to lay down bunts. You 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: ought to be ashamed of yourself. Come on, you guys 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: are gonna make him drink. 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: You guys are manifesting. 62 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 4: You gotta knock it off. 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 7: I'm not doing I'm not doing anything. I'm rooting for Lee. 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: Oh thanks, buddy. It is a two pros cup of 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. I just like LaVar 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: at least that's one thing. And LeVar is like Lee, 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: you've been drinking, like rolls down the window. 68 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: You've been drinking tonight, sir, God, please step out the car. No, 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: I haven't, please step out. 70 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 7: Oh so funny. 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: So coffee is good this morning, Jonas, Oh yeah, it's 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: really good. 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: You got that good cup of joe. Mmm, all right, 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: cheers to everybody out there having a couple. 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Of Hey, hey, look at you text mess. 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: It's not a sho'd be coming through right now here. 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Just a quick. 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 7: So I told you he's all one today. 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. 80 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: Went to the batting cages. 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: I ice in my back, man, I'm backing, doctor say 82 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: I need a bachiotomy. 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: Man. 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: All right, so let's talk about a reunion that may 85 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: or may not be happening anytime soon. This whole back 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: and forth between Bill Belichick and the Patriots and Scouts 87 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: aren't allowed to go to North Carolina and Belichick feels 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: that he's not allowed back in Foxborough. The whole thing 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: is turned into a bit of an issue, probably one 90 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: that Mike Rabel doesn't want to have to discuss. But 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: unfortunately he was on with Wee I in talking about 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: this situation of Belichick and whether or not he'd be 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: allowed back in Foxboro, and it went like this. 94 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 5: Again, nothing surprises me. 95 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: I would imagine that that that Bill. 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 8: I mean, he came back for the best of my 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 8: knowledge Tom's ceremony, so that I would I guess he's 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 8: welcome back based on the fact that he was there. 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 6: So I'll just go by that since his departure as 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 6: the head coach here, he's been back, and I'll leave 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 6: it at that. 102 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: Has he maybe been out shopping or something at the 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: Patriot Place and not allowed not allowed to walk to 104 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 105 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: Does his key card still work? 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: Well? 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: No, when you get fired, the key card does not work, 108 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: and I went back. 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 7: I went back. 110 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't work, the fingerprint doesn't work, the key card 111 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: doesn't work. 112 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: So that was the first thing they do. They don't 113 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: want you coming up in there messing up the place. 114 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 9: Man. 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that sucks. I had that happen. You gotta swipe 116 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: your card. 117 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 6: I remember the only time I've ever been escorted out 118 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 6: like for the most part, like they I mean out, 119 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 6: they were like, all right, is what it is. I'm 120 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 6: trying to think because one of them, like I never 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 6: even went back. 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 7: They just told me. I was like, yeah, I throw 123 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 7: my stuff in a trash bag. I'll just whatever. 124 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 6: But one of them, like when they told me they 125 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 6: escorted me out, like I was, I'm not gonna do. 126 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 7: What everyone thinks something to do freak out. Who's but 127 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 7: that's what they I mean. 128 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 6: But that being said, there, I have seen some guys 129 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 6: get cut who have not handled it well, you know, 130 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 6: like not good like scrining, you know, crying and Mama, no. 131 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: No, please, don't let it go now. 132 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 7: Oh, I have seen that. 133 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: It's a bad moment. 134 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 6: I don't judge, like I don't judge that because I 135 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 6: know that's how much it means to that that person 136 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: and especially to the family everyone else. 137 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 7: But I've seen some stuff. 138 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 6: Now, I've seen some guys who have damaged some stuff 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 6: in the way out. 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Actually, bro, I've seen dudes have to get their hands 141 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: removed from the handles of the door. 142 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: Where I'm gonna go. Wait, really, where I'm gonna go? 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: Where I'm go. 144 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: It's like the guy who's crying too much on shosh 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: Ink and they're dragging him in to beat his ass 146 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: in the cell and he's holding onto the bars. 147 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: No, I mean where I'm gonna go, That's all I 148 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: remember him saying that. I was like, I was like, man, 149 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm in danger because I know 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: him and we we. 151 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: Cool like that. 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: But maybe I was, I don't know. But he was 153 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: not letting go of that handle of that door. Man, 154 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: he was not letting him take him out that front door. 155 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: He would ally they couldn't get him off either. They 156 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: couldn't get him off the door where I'm gonna go. 157 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: That's all I remember. 158 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 6: It took me till year seven before it happened, and 159 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 6: then once it happened, was kind of like it was 160 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 6: weird because when Seattle released me. They were like the 161 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 6: Jets arenna calling and they're gonna sign you. They need 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 6: someone to come in. They've got a rookie quarterback, Geno Smith. 163 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 6: You know, Mark Sandez hurt her shoulder and literally five 164 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 6: minutes later John is It called. So I was like, 165 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 6: all right, everything they said and and everything I experienced 166 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 6: there was that five month period. I was like all right, 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 6: Like they were upfront and honest about stuff. 168 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 7: So whatever. 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 6: Really it was year eight like training camp with the Dolphins, 170 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 6: because like I could have signed, there was a chance 171 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 6: I was going to sign in New England, which was 172 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 6: kind of what I wanted because I wanted to see Belichick. 173 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: I wanted to see Tom Brady, and they were trying 174 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 6: to figure out what they're gonna do with Ryan Mallett 175 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 6: at the time. 176 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 7: God rest of soul. 177 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 6: And even if they would have just had me up 178 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 6: for camp and then they would have released me, I 179 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 6: would have enjoyed that experience more than going to Miami 180 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 6: with Joe Philbin for that that portion of training camp, 181 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 6: Like you know, like I think I got like four 182 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 6: pass attempts that entire that entire preseason. So that was 183 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 6: the only thing that bothered me. The most about it 184 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: was on the way in. There was basically kind of 185 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 6: a lie of like yeah, yeah, I know, you'll get 186 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 6: to compete, blah blah blah. 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 7: That was not the case. Like, that was not the 188 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 7: case at all. 189 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: I was let go from a team. 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean I did ask to be let go because 191 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: I was in so much pain. My knees kept filling 192 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: up with my knees. 193 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 6: I asked to be released once. That's the first conversation 194 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 6: I ever had with John Ellway. 195 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 7: I want to release me somewhere else. Yeah. He was 196 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 7: so caught off guard. 197 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 6: He was like, oh okay, Like like I like, I 198 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 6: don't know if you just thought I was coming into 199 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 6: say Loo and meet him or what. But I was like, yeah, man, 200 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 6: I need to get somewhere I can go play, you know. 201 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 6: And he was like, ah no, we can't do that. 202 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 6: Like everyone likes you. You got a year left during 203 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 6: the deal. I was like, I was like, yeah, man, 204 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 6: I need to get out of here. I was like, 205 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 6: I need to go, I need to play. I'm dying. 206 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 6: I was like, you can understand, you know, I'm dying 207 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 6: over here. Like I don't like being a backup. I'd 208 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 6: rather flame out as a starter than have to sit 209 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 6: and hold a damn clipboard. 210 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 7: And he's like, oh no, you know, respect that. But 211 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 7: you know, I just got here. 212 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 6: Let me just you know, because you when you're John Elway, 213 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 6: you're used to people like naturally just like wanting to 214 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 6: come to meet you, you know, and then you get 215 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 6: in that position where like, no, now you're making decisions, 216 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 6: it's entirely different. 217 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 7: Hold on, that's a good move. That's a good move you. 218 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: Got. 219 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, what the hell? 220 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: All I'll say is I had five years left on 221 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: my deal and it would have got two super Bowls 222 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: if I had stayed. 223 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: But well, this coffee sure is good, man, Yeah, sure 224 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: is good. 225 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,479 Speaker 4: Make sure you wash it afterwards. 226 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna drink it. Oh, like, I don't know 227 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: what you're talking about. 228 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 7: You'll wash it out. 229 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: So the the Belichick Patriots fiasco, By the way, North 230 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: Carolina did win this past weekend, I just want to 231 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: point that, so, you know. 232 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: Such a non story. 233 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: Who I know, Charlotte, I didn't even know they played again, Charlotte, Charlotte. 234 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: I was still on Week one with them. 235 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: But it's like this story and Patriots scouts not being 236 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: allowed at North Carolina practices and Belichick thinking he's not 237 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: allowed at at in Foxborough at the Patriots facility, Rabel 238 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: having to talk about it. All of that superseded everything 239 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: that went on in North Carolina, you know, Belichick winning 240 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: his first game as a college coach like that, like 241 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: nowhere to be found. But this is and I'm just 242 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: trying to figure out at some point, you just got 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: to move on. It's over. It didn't work out, and 244 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: now he's at North Carolina. But it does feel like 245 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: Belichick's holding on to this grudge. If all this is true, 246 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: and who knows, I mean, you know, based on the information, 247 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: it seems like it is, but it just feels like 248 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 4: he's holding on to a grudge as opposed to just listen, man, 249 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: my focus is over here. Who cares what's going on 250 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 4: with doing good to the Patriots. It's done. 251 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: I tend to think I tend to think that this 252 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: is a story that will ultimately forever be even if 253 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: there's even if it becomes clear that they're like think 254 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: about when they did the roast and everybody was like, oh, well, 255 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: maybe they are all cool. They're all in the same place, 256 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: Da da dad, this that and the other like, even 257 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: if there does seem to be a coming back together 258 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: of sorts that takes place, it will always be a 259 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: story because of how everything played out, from from the 260 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: beginning to all of the Super Bowl runs, to how 261 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady left, to. 262 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: How it ended to how it went after. 263 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: It's one of the more like they make all of 264 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: these TV shows about Aaron Hernandez, they always do it 265 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: about like people that do killings and stuff like that. 266 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: I tend to think that this is one of those 267 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: type storylines more. 268 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: It's way more. 269 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: This is a way better storyline to do multiple Like 270 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: why do you have to do multiple TV shows on 271 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez? 272 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: Do multiple? 273 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: Multiple TV shows on the relationship of Bill Belichick, Robert 274 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: Kraft and Tom Brady, Like I would watch every single 275 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: one of those. Like the documentary they did, I watched it. 276 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: But if they were to do like you know, like 277 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: the way they do the docuseries and stuff like that, 278 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: and they all, right, this TV network did it, this 279 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: network shows do it, then this third network shows, I 280 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: would watch all three. And the reason why is because 281 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: just like why it's always getting reported on, this is 282 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: one of those types of topics that it's always going 283 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: to be interesting because you start to ask yourself, how 284 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: the hell did they have all that success if they 285 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: were really at odds like this? 286 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: And I would want to know more and more. 287 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: Details as it applied to what the relationship dynamics were. 288 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: Who was who with who? Like who was closer? Was 289 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Tom closer to Bill? Or was Tom closer to Robert? 290 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: Or was Robert closer to Bill? Or was Robert closer 291 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: to Tom? 292 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 6: Like? 293 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: Was there somebody in there that we didn't know about? 294 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: Like Mike Rabel? Was there another guy? Was it Gerrod Mayo? 295 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: Who was it? 296 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: There are other people that were involved that made a 297 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, made this story what it is. 298 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: Is it ty Law? What was ty Law's part in 299 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: all of this? I don't know. Was it Big Willie Mack? 300 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: I need to know. I would watch it. 301 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: The story continues to focus on on these three main characters, 302 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: but there are other guys, and Mike Rabel got brought 303 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: into it. 304 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: Well, here's go, here's the problem. They did do something 305 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: like that about the Patriots, and it was Bob Kraft's 306 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: production company who did it. And they threw Belichick under 307 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: the bus. And that's why all his former players came 308 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: out and defended him and said no, he was not represented. Well, 309 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: and Robert Kraft's like, well, I didn't know anything about it, dude, 310 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: it's your production company. And I think that probably is 311 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: what put the nail on the coffin for Belichick and 312 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: how he feels about Robert Kraft. And they could do 313 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: the toast on stage at the Tom Brady Roast all 314 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: they want. It just seems like Belichick's never going to 315 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: get over this. He's got a red ass about it 316 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: as he should. 317 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 6: I mean, he got fired like that, like ultimately, and 318 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 6: and LeVar, you're right, like you talked about this, you know, 319 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 6: we we kind of talked about how he would leave. 320 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 6: And I think after all this time, you know you 321 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 6: can say par ways whatever else he got fired. I mean, 322 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 6: he wasn't a mutually agreed upon It wasn't like yo, 323 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 6: this is time. Like you can tell he didn't want 324 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 6: to leave, or you can tell whatever the conversation was 325 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 6: between Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick had everything to do 326 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 6: with how he's acting now. You know where I'm sure 327 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 6: Bill had a vision, he had a plan. He thought, 328 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 6: you know, with all the success they had there, that 329 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 6: he would have been given some Grace to try to 330 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: find the next Tom Brady, and maybe that's Drake May 331 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 6: you know what was he one draft away? 332 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? 333 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 6: I just you know, I think the hard thing is 334 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 6: is Bill made some really questionable decisions during that period 335 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 6: of time, and with Tom winning in Tampa, it looked bad. 336 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 6: And obviously, you know, as you pointed out Levart, Tom 337 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 6: was probably closer with Robert Craft at the end because 338 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 6: of how Bill Belichick handled things with him. You know, 339 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 6: And I don't know if the strain on Tom Brady 340 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: and Bill Belichick's relationship, if Tom looks back and says, yeah, 341 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 6: maybe that play to roll in the issues with my family. 342 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 6: You know, where other guys were able to miss time 343 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 6: in the off season, but I wasn't given that same opportunity. 344 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 6: You know, who knows what the stories are behind the scenes. 345 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 6: But however Bill Belichick is acting now, it has everything 346 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 6: to do with how the breakup was. So look, they're 347 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 6: one and one by the way at un C. Hopefully 348 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 6: they can build from there. You know, Geo Lopez was back, 349 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 6: their quarterback got hurt. I just I have a hard 350 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 6: time believing that they're not going to allow New England 351 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 6: Patriots to have some sort of you know, access to 352 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 6: their to their team. That's their entire pitch, Like Bill Belichick, MIKEA. 353 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 6: Lombardi's entire pitch is that like, who is going to 354 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 6: help prepare you better for the NFL than us? Well, 355 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 6: apparently you're only having thirty one teams look at you, 356 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 6: so pretty much everyone else is going to help prepare 357 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 6: you for at least one extra opportunity that you know 358 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 6: you're not gonna get. 359 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 7: So and anyway, I think my point, can. 360 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: I ask you guys this, do you guys believe that 361 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in some type of way may harbor these 362 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: these feelings that he harbors because he was maybe internally 363 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: not giving the given the credit that he felt he 364 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: was deserving of, and that with all of the speculation 365 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: and discussion points that surrounded who was the real reason 366 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: why they won as much as they did? Do you 367 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: feel as though those feelings that Bill Belichick had has 368 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: something to do with his legacy? 369 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: Like? Am I am I butt hurt? 370 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: Am I am I sitting here feeling the way that 371 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm feeling because it's gonna eventually come out or maybe 372 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: has already come out, that the credit that I feel 373 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm deserving of that would ultimately solidify my legacy as 374 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: a coach and as a participant in this sport. In 375 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: this game could come into question based upon how the 376 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: owner feels about me and what my involvement was. It 377 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: could that because I know the one thing about coaches 378 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: and even players, you come into this game and you 379 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: have to have and if somebody denies it and says 380 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: this isn't true, I think that it's it's. 381 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: Kind of false. 382 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: You have to have a healthy level of an ego 383 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: when you come into playing this game, coaching this game. 384 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: It's very egotistical. It's it's the arena, it's the modern 385 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: day coliseum. 386 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 3: This is you. 387 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: This is the version and variation of going to war 388 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: without being really a military person, going to a real battle. 389 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: We get to see this play out right in front 390 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: of us. They battle of attrition. You know, how strong 391 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: can you be? Who's gonna whoop? Whoose his ass? And 392 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: all this stuff? Could it be that Bill Belichick and 393 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: looking at what took place in his first game at 394 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: UNC where you could clearly say, you know, you could 395 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: if you wanted to, you could take a shot at saying. 396 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: Maybe he wasn't that good of a coach. Maybe isn't 397 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: that good of a coach. I don't. I don't want 398 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: to get into that because that's not me. But you 399 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: could have that opportunity. 400 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Is this a situation where Bill Belichick is like the 401 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: whole butt hurt thing is, don't draw the history books up, 402 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: minimizing and diminishing who I am and what I represent. 403 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: It possibility that robber Craft diminished his impact and his 404 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: involvement in the success they had and tried to push 405 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: it more towards Tom Brady. 406 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: And will continue to like think about that and will 407 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: continue to do so. And who's more relevant At some 408 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: point if Robert Craft doesn't, you know, obviously age takes over. 409 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: But I mean if if say, for instance, you know, 410 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: something were to happen to one of them, They're both 411 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: getting up there in age, right, something happens, what is 412 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: the story that's written? 413 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: How? How is the story told? 414 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: And I can guarantee you Robert Kraft does not want 415 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: to play second fiddle to Bill Belichick. And that might 416 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: be what the problem here is is that maybe Bill 417 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: Belichick is looking at Robert Kraft like, I don't want 418 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: to play second fiddle to you. In fact, I don't 419 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: want to play second fiddle to Tom Brady. So whatever 420 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: that narrative is that was playing out internally, it might 421 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: be the reason why. 422 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick has such hard feelings. 423 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Because all you really want when you do something great 424 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: in life, when you do it really well, all you 425 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: want to do is be acknowledged for what it is 426 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: that you did. You don't want that to be diminished, 427 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: and you don't want that to be taken away from 428 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: And I get that feeling that that's what Bill Belichick feels. 429 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: That's what Robert Kraft is doing, or how he feels 430 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: about the situation. 431 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: And to and Tom Brady's cot in the middle is 432 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 4: two parents fighting. 433 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: Wow, while he becomes more and more famous because he 434 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the one that participates, he he 435 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: emerges as the one that that's Chrispy clean because he 436 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: doesn't have to participate in that back and forth. 437 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm just I just wonder if that's the case. I 438 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: don't know. 439 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: I asked it as a question, but I guess I 440 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: was given a statement, but I don't know anyway, Just 441 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: a thought, just a thought. 442 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 6: I think you're giving some statements this morning. If you 443 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 6: know that I'm making statements. I know you've made some 444 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 6: statements to me this morning, So. 445 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Make some statements, baby frame. 446 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: By the way, Uh, we're excited to announce a brand 447 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: new YouTube channel for the show. 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We had 455 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 4: some interesting comments regarding speculation about his starting quarterback and 456 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: you'll hear him next here on FSR. 457 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 458 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 459 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 460 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 461 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: Hey what's up everybody? It's me three time pro. 462 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: Bowler LeVar Arrington, and I couldn't be more excited to 463 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: announce a podcast called Up on Game? 464 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: What is Up on Game? 465 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: You add along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Huschman, 466 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Burds. 467 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: You can only name a show with that type of 468 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: talent on it. Up on Game We're going to be 469 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen 470 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: to Up on Game with me lebar Arrington, TJ. Houchman's 471 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Ouda and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast 472 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast from. 473 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: It's just a good that's that Boston right there. That's 474 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: that bastard swing it. 475 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: What a brutal song. 476 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's so old now that he's actually like 477 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: Will Smith, Like people don't even realize they started off 478 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: doing music. 479 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, at the same time. Damn, what do you mean 480 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: with Joe old ass like this song and Will Smith 481 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 4: like they were making music at the same time. This 482 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: might have been sold Will This might have been before 483 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: Will Smith. 484 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: No, No, no, Will Mark. Yeah. 485 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: Will Smith is probably before before that. Will Smith is 486 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: before Marky Mark. 487 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: Least see what came out first? Well, Fresh Prince of 488 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 4: Bell Fresh Principle. 489 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: Well that's the Fresh Prince the Rapper. 490 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: His music was out before Marky Mark I can tell 491 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: you that one hundred percent. But I'm just saying they 492 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: they're so old and they've been around so long that 493 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: you could ask a kid like, did you know that 494 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: you know that those two dudes did did music, not 495 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: not where you know, not actors. 496 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 4: Well, it's like Charles Barkley was a great player, Oh 497 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: for it. 498 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny, but that's true. 499 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: Like people you would have never to know him today, 500 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: you wouldn't think that he was as dominant, like one 501 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: of the best in the league. Like at one point 502 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: one year they said he was better than Michael Jordan 503 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: and got I think he got MVP, didn't yeh of 504 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: the league? 505 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 10: Yeah, so Good Vibrations came out in ninety one, the 506 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 10: same year as Summertime by Will Smith. But but but 507 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 10: Will Smith was around since eighty five. 508 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not even close. 509 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, his first his first Like, look up, parents, 510 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: don't understand that's the one that launched him. That's got 511 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: to be eighty five, eighty six. I mean it's the eighties. 512 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 5: Eighty eight, just early eighty eight. 513 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: Lee just look up the same time, though, Lee, just 514 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 4: look up bad Will Smith's song and go to like 515 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 4: scroll through the pages and you can find oh that song, 516 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: they're listed somewhere. 517 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, girls ain't nothing but trouble that. 518 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 10: Eighty five another rough one, parents don't understand like you said, 519 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 10: eighty eight rough one. 520 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: There you go. Those are some really good songs. 521 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 5: Solo careers started in ninety seven. 522 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: There you go. So it is the same time. It's 523 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: basically basically in essence, the same time. 524 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 4: So could listen to all that, But more importantly, you 525 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: could listen to this show on some LG speakers. The 526 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 4: lgx Boom Grab is the portable speaker the powers your 527 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: hustle from morning coffee runs to midnight rooftop hangs. Enjoy 528 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 4: vibrant sound with up to twenty hours of playback, and 529 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: now save twenty five at LG dot com with code 530 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: fall twenty five. That's Fall twenty five. Bring the boom 531 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: X Boom. All right, So we're going to have a 532 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: brand new feature here on the show coming up at 533 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: about twelve minutes from now. An embarrassing admission by one 534 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 4: or two members of the show will be happening here 535 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: at about twelve minutes from now. But Steve Sarkesian, the 536 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: head coach at Texas, was being asked about, you know, 537 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: some speculation that maybe arch Manning was dealing with a 538 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: little bit of an injury or something like that, and 539 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 4: the interaction with like this with the. 540 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 5: Media, arch Manning seemed to be having some throwing pains. 541 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 8: By the according to who, arch Arch said that to you? No, oh, 542 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 8: according to who, it just looked like he was He 543 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 8: doesn't have. 544 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: Any Is there an explanation to why he was a 545 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: luck like that? 546 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 9: I don't know. 547 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 8: I've never filed I've never filmed any of you guys 548 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 8: when you're using the bathroom, so I don't know what 549 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 8: faces you make when you're doing that. 550 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: Okay, well there's that. 551 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 6: If you've seen the video, it looks like he's wincing, 552 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 6: and that that's not the only one. There's a couple 553 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 6: of times, a couple at different times you could see 554 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 6: him wincing when he throws and it looks like he's 555 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 6: in pain. And like I said that, this narrative has 556 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 6: been out there since the Ohio State game. You know, 557 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 6: Sarks probably doing what he can to protect him because 558 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 6: Arch wants to play, He wants to tough through this. 559 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 7: It's not good though. I mean, I will say this. 560 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 6: I went back and watched him film from last year, 561 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 6: just watching him throw, and it did seem like he 562 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: had a little more zip on the ball last year. 563 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 6: So I'm not sure what's going on. You know, again, 564 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 6: Sarks in a tough position because he's got to protect 565 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 6: his player. If he's choosing to play through an injury, 566 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 6: can't you know, let it out there that he's playing 567 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 6: banged up and you know that the truth is that 568 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 6: he might might not want to make an excuse for 569 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: anything that's not happening or not going the way they 570 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 6: want to. So it's gonna be something to follow the 571 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 6: rest of the year. But what's unfortunate is at the 572 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 6: end of the year he ends up getting a surgery 573 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 6: or something. I think that equally looks bad because then 574 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 6: it's like, all right, well, you were playing throughout the 575 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 6: season knowing that you need to get a surgery at 576 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 6: the end of it. I mean, players do that from 577 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 6: time to time. But I don't know. I just like, 578 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 6: if he's got such a bright future, why not, you know, 579 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 6: put things on pause, let him get healthy and let 580 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 6: him come out on the other side and allow him 581 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: to be the player we think he's going to be. 582 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: Is it by context the facial expressions. 583 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: That he made, because I look, I saw the videos 584 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: as well, and listen, you could clearly and easily draw 585 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: the conclusion that maybe something is sore, maybe it was 586 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: painful for him to throw the ball. But the ball 587 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: on that the particular video that I watched, the different 588 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: angles that they showed, the ball dropped short like and listen, 589 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm not a quarterback, but if do you make a 590 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: facial expression? Does a facial expression like that ever happen 591 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: when you know you threw a ball badly coming off 592 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: of your hand and it's like oh, like ah, Like 593 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: in my mind it's like can I draw a different 594 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: context to it? 595 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: And and and that would be my question. 596 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: Now I don't know because I don't do quarterbacking, but 597 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: I would pose that to you. 598 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 7: It's a good question. 599 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 6: I think the difference for me is is when he 600 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 6: starts to make that face, it's like as he's throwing it, 601 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: and and and it's it's almost as if like you 602 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 6: can tell it's it's bothering him. And and and here's 603 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 6: the problem is now the media is onto it. They're 604 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 6: only going to shoot his face when he throws more, 605 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 6: which how again, you can't hide it. 606 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't have that. If you're in pain, you're 607 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: gonna like you're in pain. You can't hid it. Well, 608 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: I would say. 609 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: This, it actually could work to his advantage if that's 610 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: what it is. And to me, I really would would 611 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: be curious as to why would you not just be 612 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: like if if I'm seeing this right, somebody on Sarks 613 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: Sarks staff should be making sure that they sit him 614 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: down to see exactly what it is that they're talking about, 615 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: which I which I would imagine they did, and for 616 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: the sake of for you as a coach one and 617 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: for him as a player, say what it is. Say 618 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: what it is, that's not you don't have to make 619 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: if his arm is sores, shoulder, or his elbow or 620 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: whatever it may be a hand, whatever it is. 621 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: If that's what, if that's why. 622 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: He was playing the way he was playing, and he 623 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: wasn't playing at that higher level that everybody was anticipating 624 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: and expecting, just say what it is, because now you 625 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: can say, you know what, once he gets healthy or 626 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: if it is a surgery type of situation that that 627 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: is looming, then now you can say, well we tried 628 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: it didn't work and moving on and he'll be the. 629 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: Better for it and will be the better for it. 630 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: He'll get healthy, he'll come back and we'll play or 631 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: he's going to get healthy right now and he can 632 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: play through it. But there may be some tense moments 633 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: based upon his you know, what he's dealing with health wise. 634 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to make this one in particular. 635 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get it, you know, but I don't think 636 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: you have to make this one a military secret. Yeah, 637 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: I think you come out looking bad versus looking better 638 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: in the end with something like this. 639 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 4: So he's wincing when he throws the ball in these shots, 640 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: and Sark's response to that is, I don't film you 641 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: guys when you're in the bathroom, so I don't know 642 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: what kind of faces you make. So what is he 643 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 4: implying that maybe Arch is cutting a fart while he's 644 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: throwing the ball, Like, what does that have. 645 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 7: To do with one? 646 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like? What is he trying 647 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: to imply? 648 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: There you go? 649 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 7: Bruh, I know what you mean. 650 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: I'm just like, what does that have to do with 651 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: a guy wincing while he's throwing a ball? 652 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Here you go? 653 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: It just if he's if he's that defensive because. 654 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: For what it's worth, I always WinCE when I go 655 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: into the rest room. Oh man, when I sit down 656 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: to blow it up, I always like when that action 657 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: starts to take place, I WinCE like and I make noises, 658 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: I grunt. 659 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 7: Give me give you an example. Oh man, that was great, Lee. 660 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: And I had the face to go with it. I'm 661 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: just telling you, it is a WinCE, and it looks painful. 662 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: It's really relief and enjoyment. 663 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 5: Quote for the intro. 664 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna say. Can we usual? I just want 665 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: you to. 666 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: Hold on now. I get carried away. Lee. 667 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: Do you uh you make faces while you're destroying either 668 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: bathroom over there? But you just did a minute ago. 669 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 5: By the way, Yeah, I think you heard that. 670 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. 671 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 10: I don't really keep tabs. It's not like I'm checking 672 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 10: the mirror while I'm doing that. I don't think. 673 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 3: So what do you mean you don't think so? 674 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 5: Oh no, No, I haven't thought about it before. 675 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: Whether I speaking, you're not all the way coherent when 676 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: you're going into the restroom. 677 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: Most times, anyway. 678 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's fair enough. I guess, Yeah, I 679 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: guess I do. 680 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 4: I don't know. 681 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 5: Now I'm gonna think about it. 682 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: I feel like every good ass deserves a good grunt 683 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: or a good facial expression, whether you're a male or female. 684 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: And listen, I don't make it a point to know 685 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: what what women do in the restrooms. I don't know, 686 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: But all I'm saying is I would assume that everybody 687 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: blows it up the same type of way. So if 688 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: you do like I like, anybody says that, go in 689 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: there and it's like yeah, Roses is, oh okay, Rainbow 690 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: done Like, I don't buy that. 691 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you at all. 692 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 6: I'm with you everyone Everyone poops the same. And you 693 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 6: know what else, everyone needs good sleep? Yeah, held need 694 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 6: a good mattress, right, No one more than LeVar this morning. 695 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 6: LeVar needs a good mattress. And I trust the Matches 696 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 6: from their sleep experts to find the purchase mattress from 697 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 6: their premium selection for the great sleep you Deserve as 698 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 6: a mattress for him in the best sale of the 699 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 6: year that makes sleep easy. 700 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 4: It is two pros and a cup of Joe here 701 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, we are going 702 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 4: to debut a brand new feature here on the show, 703 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: and it is a little bit embarrassing. We'll just say 704 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 4: that for one member of this crew. We'll get into 705 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: that for you here on FSR. 706 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 707 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 708 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 709 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 710 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 4: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 711 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: up top next. Now we're a little over ten minutes 712 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: from now. Already bad news for one team in the NFL, 713 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 4: and this is a team who won over the weekend. 714 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: We'll get into that for you here on FSR. 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If you're listening, 721 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: you've got either one league or multiple leagues, or you know, 722 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 4: you're just a degenerate like the rest of us, and 723 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 4: You know, people make mistakes, and it's time for people 724 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 4: on this show to own up to those mistakes with. 725 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: This now, two girls, one. 726 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 4: Cup, sorry up, check this out. 727 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: It's two pros and a cup of joes fantasy cups, all. 728 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: Right, So lead the laps. Got fifteen fantasy leagues? It's true, 729 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 4: I've got one. Brady's a brand new participant in fantasy football. 730 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 4: By the way, Brady, did you win this week? How'd you? 731 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 4: How'd your fantasy league go? 732 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 7: Haven't checked? 733 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 6: You have not checked The backstory here, folks, is my 734 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 6: nephew asked me to be a part of the league. 735 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 6: Didn't want to disappoint him, don't want to say no. 736 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 6: So Uncle Brady signed up and I did an auto draft. 737 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 6: I have not looked at it since. So is this 738 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 6: your I don't even know. I don't even know who's 739 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 6: on my team. 740 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: Is this your nephew's first first league? 741 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know any more details. I 742 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 6: just said yes and I moved on. 743 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 4: I literally forgot to start two players last night. No, 744 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 4: literally forgot to put him in the lineup just I 745 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 4: don't know, just completely forgot. 746 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 9: So it was an empty slot. Yeah, basically did that 747 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 9: cost you the win. No, but if you get down later, yeah, 748 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 9: you weren't close enough. But every point counts because it 749 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 9: gets now to tiebreakers. It's based on totals on your points, 750 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 9: and so even if you lose, you want to accumulate 751 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 9: as many points as possible just in case there's tiebreakers. 752 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 4: And I literally just forgot just week one. Sloppy port 753 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 4: team management, just a bad job by me, and I 754 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 4: ended up butchering my opportunity to get some more points 755 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 4: from last night's game. It's too bad because I like 756 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 4: to wait. What I'll do is I'll wait until about 757 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: fifteen twenty minutes before and then I'll put my players 758 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 4: into the lineup, just because it messes with people's heads 759 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: that I'm in the league with. And then I talked 760 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: about Yeah, backfired on me and I forgot last night. 761 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: So a do you do? 762 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 9: Lee? 763 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 7: I went. 764 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: I did pretty good. 765 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 10: I went four for five out of my five leagues. 766 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 10: But the league that I lost in was pretty miserable. 767 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 10: I was going against Dan Byer here at Fox Sports Radio, 768 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 10: and I would have been doubled by everyone in the league. 769 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 10: I had sixty points and most people scored around one 770 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 10: to twenty. I had one players scored double digits. That 771 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 10: was Chase Brown, And meanwhile I had aj Brown, Vin 772 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 10: Ridley and George Pickens is my starting wide receivers. 773 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 5: Not one of them put over four points. 774 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 10: Meanwhile, I had Save Flowers on the bench, who would 775 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 10: have doubled all three of them together. Uh So that 776 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 10: was pretty miserable. And uh so only up from here 777 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 10: I cannot do that again. 778 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 4: And you've got to own that. That's your fault. That 779 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 4: is my fault that you put those those players. 780 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 10: Absolutely, the save Save Flowers is on my starting roster 781 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 10: from here on out. 782 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 4: I'm telling you. Listen, Brady, you got like get in 783 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: there and start mixing and matching, wheeling and dealing. You 784 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 4: can make trades, you can cut guys, you can be like, 785 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 4: I don't like how you're performing. Just let some guys 786 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: show some guys walking papers. It's funny, sounds sounds cool. 787 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 3: Man. 788 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 6: As soon as I've done watching film and doing what 789 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 6: like normal dudes do, then then don't get to that. 790 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is normal dude stuff. That's what we did. 791 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 4: This is what dudes do, the safe form of gambling. 792 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 4: You guys paint your fingernails too, well, man, Hey, that 793 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 4: was for a good cause. 794 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: Last night. 795 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 6: That's always for a good cause. Tell me, tell me 796 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 6: somebody pants the fingernails. That's not for a good cause. 797 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 3: You're not daddy.