1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: by searching app tests car. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Booming Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fine. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I hope you're having a great day. We 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you join us. Fun day, crazy day, interesting day, 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: and a day in which congratulations to the Milwaukee Bucks, 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: congratulations and you're like, wait, we make congratulations. You traded 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: for Miles Turner and you waved Damian Lillard and okay, hey, 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I heard the update from Buyer. Hey Dan, 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: how are you? I understand the sentiment from Jannis. Okay, 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: but let me let's let's just cut the brass tacks, okay. 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Jiannis Aintennacupo is a tremendous player. He seems like an 17 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: incredible human being. 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: He really does. 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: But he quite obviously knows nothing about team building because 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: his fingerprints were all over the Damian Lillard acquisition and 21 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: it didn't work, and it wasn't gonna work, and they 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: did a really good thing. 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: Right, they did a really good thing. 24 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: Like if you remember back, if you just use Michael 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Jordan as your guide. Michael Jordan was furious that the 26 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls traded away Charles Oakley for medical Bill Cartwright. 27 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: That was his nickname, Medical Bill Cartwright. 28 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: But you know what happened with the Chicago Bulls when 29 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: they traded Charles Oakley for medical Bill Cartwright. The Chicago 30 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Bulls win NBA championship because they knew at the time 31 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: they had Horace Grant, who was a better, less expensive 32 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: power forward who was incredible defensively, and at the time 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: you needed one of those old man centers. And medical 34 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Bill Cartwright, even though he had this weird shot where 35 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: he wound up and then he shot it like over 36 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: his head. It was like the weirdest shot ever, but 37 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: it went in. He could scored just enough and they 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: won their first couple of championships with Bill Cartright as 39 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: their starting center. That Charles Oakley was best friends to 40 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: protector of Michael Jordan. But you know what he didn't do. 41 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: He didn't help him win a championship. It doesn't make 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: him a bad person doesn't make a bad player. It 43 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: just wasn't a fit. And they had Horace Grant, who 44 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: was a better defensive player, less ego, less money, younger, 45 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: and then oh yeah, by the way, Horace Grant, when 46 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: he could be a free agent, he left, he went 47 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: to Orlando, and then they figured out in the next 48 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: time round they had Dennis Rodbin as their power forward. 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Look Damian Lillard. 50 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: It didn't fit. 51 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: It didn't work when he was healthy, Tours Achilles ten 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: and so next year is a wash anyway, So a 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: guy who isn't a particularly good defender started to get 54 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: a little bit over the hill, was overpaid and wasn't 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna really play or help you next year, Like all right, boohoo, 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: sorry he's gone, Like this is show business, not show friends. 57 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: It's time to move on. And the same thing for 58 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: the Inn and Pacers. Oh they should be upset, like no, 59 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton's Tours Achilles tenont he's not gonna give you 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: anything of anything next year. Next year is gonna have 61 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: to be rebuild, reconfigure, and maybe Halle comes back at 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: the end of the year and maybe by the second year. 63 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: You know again, you're talking. 64 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: About twenty what seven twenty eight, Maybe by then Halliburton's 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: back to being who he was in the playoffs, and 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: now you go go for it. But this is really 67 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: about the Milwaukee Bucks. They won a title and then 68 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: they were kind of frustrated, and then they did kind 69 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: of what we talked about the Steelers doing. 70 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: They went all in. 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: And at the time I did say I don't think 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: it works, because, yes, Drew Holliday offensively and star power 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: wise appears to be inferior to that of Damillard, but 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: he does all the other little things that actually wins 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: you basketball games, and Dame is the best player on 76 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: an average team. 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: And it played out as such. It didn't work. It 78 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: just didn't work. It' stop. 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: Fantasy sports doesn't work that way. You don't take thirty 80 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: points with the Blazers and put it on the Milwaukee 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: Bucks and go, hey, Giannis. It tracks all this attention. 82 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: He likes to pass the ball. He needs better shooters. 83 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: Here's the best shooting point guard outside of Steph Curry 84 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: in the NBA. And you know, you put thirty points 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: with thirty points and it's sixty points. 86 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: That's not how it works. 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: And then again, it's not a good thing, but it 88 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: would definitely help the Bucks. Argument tears as achilles tendon. 89 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: So you get to go. Sorry, it may look bad, 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: it may feel bad, you may not like it, but 91 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: it's the only way this thing works is if we 92 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: just wash our hands of it and move on and 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: try something else. So they went and got Miles Turner, 94 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: who's an elite shooting center. Gives them rim protection and 95 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: space for Giannis to play inside the lane. And now 96 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: they got to figure out what they want to put 97 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: around those two. 98 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: And Gianni isn't happy. 99 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you were really happy when we picked up 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard and that didn't work. You're really happy when 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: we hired the assistant coach. You were ready that you 102 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: most wanted and that didn't work. So we're gonna do 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: what we think is in the best interest of our team. 104 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: And when we've done that in the past, we've competed 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: for and actually won an NBA title. I don't know, 106 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: that's that's that's my take on the basics of those moves. Buyer, 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: you're a native Wisconsin kans Wisconsin conson. Because consonite you are, 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: you do watch way more Bucks games than any of us. 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: What do you think about the moves. 110 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: I think it is the first progressive move made by 111 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: this front office in maybe the Yannis era because Doug 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: when they were put into the position of being a contender, 113 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: if you will, when Giannis was the super stardom stuff. 114 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to say it was easy to get 115 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: Drew Holliday or it was easy to get Damian Lillard, 116 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: but you just give up a bunch of stuff, give 117 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: up a bunch of draft picks, and you bring in 118 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: the player. And it doesn't take a lot of creativity 119 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: to do a good deal because you don't care about 120 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: the whether you're getting the better end of the deal 121 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: or not. You're just looking for the star player. And 122 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: so now they were at a where they were really, really, 123 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: really really put in a corner because of his injury, 124 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: because of his contract, and I am just happy as 125 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: a fan that they made a decision that just wasn't 126 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: an easy decision or a decision that you think that 127 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: would be common in the NBA. This has gone against 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: the grain. I don't know why Giannis is so upset 129 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: about it. Damian Lillard, I think was shocked, but by 130 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: all accounts from Chris Haynes, he's happy with the outcome, 131 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: he gets his one hundred and thirteen million dollars, he 132 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be in Milwaukee. He can rehab on 133 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: his own. He's already getting calls from teams as a 134 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: free agent. Seems to be a pretty good deal for 135 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: Damian Lillard. So there's no reason for Giannis to be 136 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: disappointed on how this went down. But I just give 137 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: them kudos because Doug I always felt they took the 138 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: easy way out. They didn't produce their young players, they 139 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: didn't try to develop guys. Seems like they gave up 140 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: on guys way too early that they would draft. And 141 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: that was all signs of teams who just were kind 142 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: of in that mode of thinking they were in championship mode. 143 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: So let's just, you know, throw caution to the wind 144 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: and try to get the best players, and who cares 145 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: what we give up. This is the first move that's 146 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: contrariant to all of that, and it actually is refreshing. 147 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Okay, because you heard it from Dan Byer noted wisconsinit. 148 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just said I agree with you, Doug. No, 149 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: I mean I could have it was. 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yours was far more eloquent. Mine was a 151 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: little bit more terse and yours was substantive providing history 152 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: of this franchise in the last decade, So I actually 153 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: thought it was really good to buttress my remarks. Anyway, 154 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: I do think I know why Giannis is upset about it. 155 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: I think there's two parts. Part one is like, I 156 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: think Jana still wants to be the good guy. So 157 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're trained, Dave. That's like the hold 158 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: me back, hold me back on that. 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I agreed, I think that's a. 160 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: Little bit of it. 161 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: But I also think that it was kind of his idea, right, 162 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: And I don't care who you are and how little 163 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: ego you want to have when it's your idea and 164 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't work and everybody comes to the conclusion of 165 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work. 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel good. It just doesn't. And I think 167 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: that's the other possibility. 168 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Sure, you know, it's like, first you hired my coach, 169 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: the guy I wanted to be coached, and you fired 170 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: him before the season was done. And then my guy 171 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, like then you get rid of him, basically 172 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: tell me you're like then, you know, people make it 173 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: about especially this generation. I'll I'll go to a the 174 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Playbook of Jason Stewart. 175 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Hold on. 176 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: Ah gen Z. Gen Z is so used to being 177 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: told yes that when they're told no, they freak out. 178 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Here's Joanna's sort of your gen Z e being told, hey, dude, 179 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: we love you, but we're not gonna take your ideas 180 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: anymore because they not so much. 181 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 182 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 183 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio apps. 184 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. You brought this to 185 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: our tension, Dan Byer yesterday that I don't know this 186 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: part of the WNBA All Star selection. The players get 187 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: to vote and Caitlin Clark was voted as the ninth 188 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: best guard in the WNBA by WNBA. 189 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: Players, Right, yes. So then you're sitting there going like, 190 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: oh boy, here we go. 191 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: And then you're like, well, you know, I mean, I'll 192 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: just kind of be honest when I saw the poll. 193 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't watch the WNBA except occasionally when Kitlin Clark 194 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: is playing, right, I mean, can we just be honest, Sam, 195 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: I accept the fact that you do, but the rest 196 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: of us and most of the rest of the world 197 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: do not. 198 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: I don't watch I don't watch games outside of Fever games, honestly, Okay, yeah. 199 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Right, So like Skyler Diggins, like I remember 200 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: her from Notre Dame, I can't tell you I've ever 201 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: seen her play professional basketball. I have no idea if 202 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: she's awesome or if she's just okay or whatever. But again, 203 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: like she's the player's rank curve way ahead, and everybody 204 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: else fans and media does not like. I don't know, 205 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: So I don't say, you're like, wow, that's weird. 206 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: Ninth. 207 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: That feels like they don't like her, right. It feels 208 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: like they're trying to even out the hype train. Like okay, 209 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: what I want to be fair, Maybe she is the 210 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: ninth best card, you know, not having the greatest year 211 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: in the world. 212 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe. Then I saw this. 213 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: Video which was part of a story I saw in 214 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: the New York Post. Don't know where you guys saw it. 215 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: Where the Sparks. That's the LA team. Who are they 216 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: playing Sam? Because they weren't playing the Fear, They're playing 217 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: the Chicago Sky. So you have Kelsey Plum And for 218 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: people don't remember, Kelsey Plum was the nation's all time 219 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: leading score in women's basketball history Vision one women's basketball 220 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: history before she was passed by Kaitlyn Clark, which is 221 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: again part of my argument for stop saying it's about 222 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: her being white. Kelsey Plumb is white and it didn't 223 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: change Sabrina Ynescu white like again, highly touted college player, 224 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: very good WNBA player, but she hasn't received the attention 225 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: of Caitlyn Clark. So it's more than just about color 226 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: of her skin or whether or not you're straight. Kelsey 227 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Plum is straight. She was married to what's his name 228 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: who got retired from the rear, Darren Waller, right, So 229 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: there's something else as to why people are attracted to 230 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: her game and why people watch her. She has a 231 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: little bit that it. It's the passing, it's the logo shots, 232 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: it's the branding that took place four years in college, 233 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: in two final years, in the final four. But I 234 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: wanted to be fair and be like, well, it's not. 235 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: They don't all hate her, they get it. Then I 236 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: saw this. This is Kelsey Plump. She's getting ready to 237 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: take on the Chicago Sky. It's at Staples Center. She 238 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: sees a fan who's wearing a Caitlin Clark shirt. 239 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: It says this says do better. 240 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you come to a game, yeah, you gotta 241 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: wear our gear. 242 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Like what, She's not Michael Jordan. 243 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: But can you imagine if when Michael Jordan was playing, 244 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: people say like, hey, you can't wear Michael Jordan gear 245 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: when you come to a Lakers SuperSonics game, or you 246 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: can't wear Steph Curry gear unless you go to a 247 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Warriors game, and you can't wear Lebron gear unless you 248 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: go to a Lakers game. 249 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: Like what. 250 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't like stereotypes. I don't think anybody does. I 251 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: don't like steroto. I don't like being pigeonholed into the 252 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: this is who you are. Perfect example is me as 253 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: a player, right, I'm a coach's son. I'm a white guy, 254 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: and so most people would think coaches son a great shooter, 255 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: limited athlete, where I was the opposite. I was really athletic, 256 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: could really pass, couldn't shoot again. Stereotypes don't always work 257 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: that way. But stereotype for women are man They are 258 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: the pettiest of petty creatures. They are so insecure that 259 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: it turns into incredible jealousy. It feels like people who 260 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: put the tracker's location on the device. No guy has 261 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: ever said like, hey, let me make sure your location's 262 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: on on your phone. But women, different story. Kelsey Plumb 263 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: perfect example, like living down to the stereotype of women. Wait, 264 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: so she's wearing a Caitlin clarktrict but she's at your game, right, 265 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: where's the downside? Combine that with the story that buyers 266 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: shared with all of us on text, which is the 267 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: women voted her the ninth best guard in the WNBA, 268 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: and you start to understand that this is not a 269 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: media creation. We haven't created this narrative where they're all 270 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: jealous of her. They're all jealous of her, and we're 271 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: all just amazed because guys must hide it better because 272 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: this doesn't happen in real professional sports. That's why the 273 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: WNBA is not a real professional sport, because this doesn't 274 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: happen in real professional sports. You're acting like amateurs, or 275 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: you're acting like the negative stereotypes about women being caddy, jealous, 276 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: insecure creatures. Whatever it is, it's just a terrible look. 277 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Dude, God, 278 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on in the NBA. 279 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: I do think that, like the Lillard stuff in the. 280 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: You know, the the. 281 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Bucks and the Pacers realizing where they are is very 282 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: very interesting. 283 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: Dan, if I was ask you go ahead, I'm sorry, No. 284 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: I think that the Miles Turner deal is interesting in 285 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: a couple of levels. And I think we're looking at 286 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: it from the Milwaukee perspective how it affects the honest 287 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: how it affects other things. But like the Celtics are 288 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: kind of tearing it down after the Tatum injury and 289 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: moving pieces, the Pacers with Halliburton's injury now are in 290 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: quite a different spot to be in. Yeah, and Doug, 291 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: it even goes back to the point something that me 292 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: and the guys were discussing off the air last week 293 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: was the risk of playing in a Game seven for 294 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: Tyrese Haliburton and suffering that injury like it was worth it, 295 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: Like there was no In other situations, you're maybe saying, like, 296 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: oh man, he's gonna miss all of the next season. 297 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 3: But when you have the Game seven NBA Finals, how 298 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: often are you going to get that opportunity to play 299 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: in that game? You risk it and unfortunately they lost 300 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: the risk. But this is also a point of how 301 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: many times. Are you going to get to Game seven? 302 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: And the Pacers makeup right now? Sure looks different than 303 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: it did two weeks ago, considering the injury and now 304 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 3: Miles Turner leaving. 305 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: Well, there's the look. 306 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I think the whole post Achilles ten and they all 307 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: happen in the postseason. So all of these teams are 308 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: saying the same thing we're saying, which is like, hey, 309 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: those guys aren't gonna if they play next year, are not. 310 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Gonna help you? 311 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: Mm hmm yep. 312 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: And so it has inorganically made the Celtics hit refresh, 313 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: made the Pacers hit refresh, and made the Bucks hit refresh. 314 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: Just the reality of the situation. 315 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And no matter how much you can talk you 316 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: want to talk yourself about it, Well, they could be 317 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: back next year, Like dude, nobody's back and the same. 318 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: It takes you a while. Even Kevin Durant, who's come 319 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: back relatively healthy from it, he was out the longest 320 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: period of time of any athlete, professional athlete ever. It 321 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: was basically two years he was out with the achilles, 322 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: and now he's come back healthy. He's a little bit 323 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: older than all of them, but it is it's the 324 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: it's the teams saying we believe in science and we 325 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: believe next year is a lost year. And by the way, 326 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: they all make a lot of money, so there's just 327 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: nothing you can do with the cap and the Bucks 328 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: bit the bullet and bought them out. The Celtics have 329 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: bit the bullet and hit refresh, and the Pacers seem 330 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: to be doing the same as the Bucks. I was 331 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: the same as the Celtics. 332 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Excuse me, really interesting? Yeah, I go ahead. 333 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 3: I was going to say, the last thing you want 334 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: to do is you said that guy's coming back late, 335 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: Like why would you rush it? You know, like, like 336 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: it's just this, this is so many more problems. There's 337 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: just no point. 338 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: Just tay it's red shirt. Ear get healthy. We'll see 339 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: you in a year, We'll see you here, and just 340 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: don't kid. 341 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: Us as fans. 342 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question for you guys about the 343 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: lebron thing. Okay, obviously I was pretty harsh there yesterday, 344 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: and I still believe it. I just the messaging to 345 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: me is it's just such a miss. So I do 346 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: think there's an alternative idea here from Rich Paul, which 347 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: it's one of those I do hear what you're saying, hey, man, 348 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: he wants to win, and they're they're all in on 349 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: winning on with with Luca in two years. This here's 350 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: a sentence everybody needs to say. Anybody needs to admit 351 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: Lebron James is not a top ten player in the NBA. 352 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: And you're like, whoa blasphemy. 353 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: There were people last year when Lebron would have a 354 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: big night'd be like, Lebron is still the best player 355 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: in the NBA. Lebron James is not a top ten 356 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: player in the NBA. 357 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: I can prove it. Are you ready? 358 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: If any other team had two top ten players in 359 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: the NBA, we. 360 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: Would consider them a favorite to win an NBA title, 361 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: would we not? 362 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably? 363 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So if Lebron is saying, hey, I want to 364 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: win a championship, but the Lakers are trying to win 365 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: a championship in another year, two years or whatever, then 366 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: he and his team are admitting I'm not a top ten, 367 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: top to fifteen player anymore, right, Which, again, if I 368 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: don't even think they realize that's what they're saying. I 369 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: think a good part of it is they're just that 370 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis getting traded wasn't their plan. 371 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: He was their guy. 372 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: Lakers are starting to do their own thing and figure 373 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: it out. It's going to become Luca's team. But regardless 374 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: with Luca's team or whatever, like nobody actually cares any 375 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: other team. You've got two top ten players in the NBA, 376 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: two top fifteen players in the NBA, and you're gonna 377 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: be a favorite, especially in this parody driven era of 378 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: the NBA. So let's all just admit it. He ain't 379 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: there anymore, which is okay, forty years old, doesn't have 380 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: to be. He's an amazing player, but he in a 381 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: top fifteen player. They definitely in a top ten player. 382 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: John Mintcoff joins us here on the Doug Gatlieb Show 383 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: on fox Portradio three and Out is in fact the 384 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: podcast covering the National Football League Steelers kind of unstealers, 385 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: like John, pushing their chips and going all in. 386 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: They I know, you love to gamble. 387 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: They're like the guy who's super conservative, always folding when 388 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: it's just an average to blow average hand, you know, 389 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: not going crazy, not not betting outside of the kind 390 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: of whatever their plan is. And now all of a sudden, 391 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: they're just pushing their chips to the middle, even though 392 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: they don't have King A's high. It does feel Unsteelers, 393 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: like does it not. 394 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 5: I do wonder if the last couple years they've kind 395 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: of stalled out in neutral and they took the approach 396 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 5: of like, you know, not that you know TJ. Watt 397 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: or Minka or some of these guys are content. You know, 398 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: part of the NFL when you don't win is like 399 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: you know, I see the reaction to Dame Lillard right now, 400 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 5: like that's an NFL move towards Achilles. Move on sign 401 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: another guy, like he's not useful to us, the differences 402 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: in the NBA. He'll still get his one hundred and 403 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: fifteen million dollars. And I think, you know, Minka, to me, 404 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: not only he's a good player, but he's a high 405 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 5: level leader. But I also think it's kind of a 406 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 5: shell shock to the locker room, like what's been happening 407 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: in here is not okay, and now everyone's kind of 408 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: on on till like a like a poker player. I 409 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 5: guess which most locker rooms in the NFL are like that. 410 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 5: Look at the Niners. They had been making the Super Bowl, 411 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 5: making a long playoff runs, and this year they got 412 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 5: rid of everybody you know, besides like five or six 413 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 5: core players, and they just kind of keeps everyone. It's 414 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 5: just a nature of the business. And the Steelers have 415 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: never really operated like that. And I do wonder if 416 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: they screw it. I mean, we've gone nowhere with what 417 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 5: we've had. Because I Jalen rams are getting traded wasn't shocking, 418 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: But the moment they said Minka Fitzpatrick was basically why 419 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: they were trading him in the tight end. That was 420 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 5: a pretty eye opening move, wasn't I It was. 421 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: It was really eye opening the whole thing. 422 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: It does track though with Aaron Rodgers hey Man one year, 423 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: like let's go all in. It stands the reason that 424 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, that's the end of Tomlin, right, 425 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: like he rides up in the sunset, goes and does TV. 426 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I do think you know, if there 427 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 5: was a divorce, he would have a ton of suitors, 428 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 5: you know, I mean Miami, probably New York. I mean, 429 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 5: these teams would be all over the guy, So he 430 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 5: would crush on TV. But you know, being a head 431 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 5: coach of the NFL is you know, I mean, it's 432 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 5: about as good of a job in terms of paying 433 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 5: fifteen plus million dollars, the notoriety, the power that comes 434 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: with that, I think there would be people lined up 435 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 5: to get him. I also have been saying like, you know, 436 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 5: this is they're really testing him this year, right, I mean, 437 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 5: DK a ton of personal fouls, you know, Jalen Ramsey, 438 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: Warren as Welcome, a couple of different places, Rogers, they 439 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: got a lot going on. So this is gonna really 440 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: test Tomlin, which his best attribute, right is leadership is 441 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 5: the ability to kind of run a locker room. And 442 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 5: they've really I mean Minca because I texted some buddies yesterday, 443 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, am I missing something? And they're like, no. 444 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 5: In our building, we view Minca is not just a 445 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 5: great player, but a super high intangible leadership, you know, 446 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 5: the team captain type guy. So to replace him with 447 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 5: Jalen Ramsey, now maybe they go, you know down the stretch. 448 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 5: Remember the Steelers defense was not very good and Minca 449 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 5: was playing, So they go, we add two corners, you know, 450 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: in Jalen and in Darius Slay. Let's during the Cow 451 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 5: or at least in my life, the Cow or Tomlin 452 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 5: run their good defenses. They've had tall long corners. Yeah, 453 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: tall long corners and you know, back in the day 454 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: you could have like hard hitting safeties. Those don't really 455 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: exis see more because they're not allowed in a pass rush. 456 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 5: So maybe they think, hey, tall on corners, get up 457 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 5: on you, jammy at the line, Like that's the Steelers 458 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 5: philosophy and t J. Watt and everybody rushed the passer 459 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 5: and hopefully were better on offense, right. I mean that, 460 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 5: that to me is one of their mangals, like we're 461 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 5: just gonna be maybe not like a top five offense, 462 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 5: but we are going to be an offense that down 463 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 5: the stretch last year we kind of are like, what 464 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 5: are we watching that? Clearly ideally because now they got 465 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: multiple tight ends. They draft this running back really high, 466 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 5: I think in the second third round from Iowa, who's 467 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 5: a big physical player. You had DK who you know, 468 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 5: physical freak. You already got Jalen Warren. Like they do 469 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 5: have some offensive pieces if it all comes together. 470 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers doesn't turned the ball over right, 471 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Like the one thing is, for the most part, he 472 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: didn't turn. 473 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: It over. 474 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 5: Before first got to Green Bay, and Rogers' career was 475 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: kind of in a weird spot. They just settled it 476 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 5: down by running that Shanahan offense. Yeah, have to get 477 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 5: a little less, but big plays on offense and running 478 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 5: the ball. That to me and Arthur Smith, the Rooney family, 479 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 5: I mean they they dream about running the football. 480 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 481 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: Darren Waller unretires, unretires, joins the Miami Dolphins. Look, he's 482 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: had a long and winding road to even startom. 483 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what what is it? Was it what he. 484 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Had in the tank when he walked away? Was it 485 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: mental stuff? What are your thoughts on him getting back 486 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: in the league. 487 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: So what I gathered was he just kind of over football. 488 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 5: And you know when I see this, you know, obviously 489 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 5: Miami's a little desperate. You know, I I never because 490 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 5: there's no disputing his talent, like his physical capabilities. He's 491 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: he's a pretty big freak, you know, just in terms 492 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 5: of you know, the size, the athleticism, the speed. He's 493 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 5: been banged up his last couple of years. I think 494 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 5: sometimes if you don't love football, like I mean truly, 495 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady the one. You know what, 496 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 5: once you get banged up, you know, football, it's such 497 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 5: a grind to rehab, to only play, you know, It's 498 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: not like basketball or baseball. Where you get a lot 499 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 5: of games, you just only you only play a small 500 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 5: number of games. I think it kind of puts into 501 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 5: perspective for some of these guys, like do I didn't 502 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 5: like doing this and now these guys are getting so rich. 503 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 5: I think Miami, I don't know where you stand, but 504 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: I can see Miami being a pretty big train wreck. 505 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 5: I had like an assistant GM He's like, look at 506 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: their corner depth. He's like, in this league where everyone passes, 507 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: you know, you can say what you want. Jalen's a 508 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 5: diminishing player, but look who's starting at corner for them? 509 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 5: Like it could be and their defense just hasn't been 510 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 5: that great to begin with. So I you know, I 511 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: know that Raheem moster and is popping off. Like last 512 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: time I checked Jayalen Ramsey was a guy like showing 513 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 5: up late to meetings, you know. So it's like, I 514 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 5: don't know you could argue in this day and age 515 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 5: with the amount of money. Uh. You know, pat Riley 516 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 5: runs like a military operation. Even it's been hard for 517 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 5: him the last couple of years. Maybe just hard to 518 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 5: win in a place like Miami, you know, I mean true, 519 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 5: because even in New York City, those None of those 520 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 5: guys live in the city. You know, you and I 521 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: were at the Super Bowl in Miami. You've probably been 522 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 5: to a bunch. I do wonder if that's a tough 523 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 5: place to build, like a to build a football team 524 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five. 525 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, hey, we thought Raiders would be you know, 526 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: a common thought would be Raiders. Those guys live, you know, 527 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: out in Summerland, and they've had their own off the 528 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: field issues as well. 529 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: It does that city. 530 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: Keeps calling calls the wrong dudes, and those wrong dudes 531 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: get in there and crazy things, sad things. Sometimes just 532 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: distractions can in fact happen. This is the Doug Gottlieb 533 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Radio. John Mittlcoff is in fact 534 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: our guest guest. Okay, last one here. I am super 535 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: super intrigued by the Bengals with all this offensive weaponry, 536 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: but they had such a horrific defense last year. 537 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: How does that work? 538 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 5: Listen? I think sometimes you got to be careful about 539 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 5: making huge generalizations, you know, in the springtime. But it 540 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, their offensive players are back, their offensive 541 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 5: sweet last year. It's been a weird offseason, right, I mean, 542 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: their star pass rusher is I mean very publicly gone 543 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: back and forth to the organization and then the guy 544 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 5: literally drafted to replace them. Him and his agent are like, 545 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: what are you sending us the sign and left man 546 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 5: story mini camp. So you know, the most important person 547 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: on any defense is the guy up front, and they're 548 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 5: two in theory best players on their defensive line. Are 549 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 5: It's one thing to be like a little like TJ. 550 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 5: Watt like wants more money. This thing feels like there's 551 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 5: some like legit animosity for both guys. And I don't know, 552 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: I just you know, if it was Mike Tomlin or 553 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 5: hard Bob brother theg everything be okay. But Zach Taylor 554 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 5: kind of fighting for his job. It feels like like 555 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 5: they scored a lot of points last year and it 556 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: didn't matter. And I you know, they get Al Golden, 557 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: who was excellent at Notre Dame. But you know, I mean, 558 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 5: when you're at top colleges in basketball or football, you 559 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: got the best players, yep, you know, in the in 560 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: the pros, it's everybody yeh players, yeah, the ASCs and 561 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 5: you're a couple injuries away from your roster, you know, 562 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 5: on a side of the ball, looking no different than 563 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 5: a like a four win team, and I say the 564 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: same like the Ravens. Right, So Hell's a huge part. 565 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: It's just it's a difficult spot. My guess is I 566 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: don't know if it goes great for the Bengals now Joe. 567 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 5: I mean, what's Joe Burrow gonna throw fifty touchdowns? He 568 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 5: might have to for them to win ten games. 569 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: That's John Minocoff and if Analyst toasted. Three Now podcasts 570 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: and the Volume podcast, How work John? Great stuff man? 571 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: Love having you on. 572 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: Thanks dog, see you buddy. 573 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: For over forty years, thank you. 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Come up next to the Doug 591 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show. One of the best deals so far in 592 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: the NBA. 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Just like the presets, 603 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: and you're ready to out preset Fox Sports Radio. You 604 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: in the iHeartRadio app and you always pop up on 605 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: top of your screen. It's get to damn Bayer and 606 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: play a game. 607 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 608 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: All right, Doug, let's get right to it. The game 609 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: today is rank him, all right, Doug. Rank your three 610 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: favorite NBA deals so far. Doesn't have to be just signings, 611 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: could be releases, could be trades. What do you like 612 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: so far in this NBA off season? 613 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: Uh? 614 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: Number three would be I like Damian Lillard being released. 615 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: I just do. 616 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: I understand our image of Damian Lillard is that of 617 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: a superstar of Dame time. But if it just didn't 618 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: work and then he's hurt and everybody's the better because 619 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: of it. So yeah, I mean sometimes saying that didn't 620 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: work is that kind of the smartest thing you can 621 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: possibly do. 622 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: I can't wait for another twenty years from now and 623 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: the Bucks swing a deal with a team from the 624 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest to try to, you know, put them over 625 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: the top again and it fails, just like Gary Payton's 626 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: deal with all Ray Allen. No, Gary Payton go to 627 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: Milwaukee and Ray Allen going to Seattle. I was going 628 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: to be exciting then it wasn't same as this same 629 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: sort of feelings. 630 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: There you go, Kevin Durant to the Rockets at two, 631 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: not because I think he's old Kevin, that he's the 632 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant of ten years ago, but I just also 633 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: they had a young player who look good in stats, 634 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: but ain't gonna help you win. Whereas Durant has some flaws, 635 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: but he's a hooper, you know what he is. 636 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: He can offend just well enough. He's won championship games. 637 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: I really like it. I just I just I just 638 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: makes sense to me, makes sense to me. 639 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: And the best move, I guess, the best move in 640 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: the NBA so far this offseason. Again, I don't know 641 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: if everybody agrees with the order of these moves, but 642 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: the ones that have been made that I do like 643 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: is I like Miles Turner to the Bucks because in 644 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: order to win, you have to have space for Giannis 645 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: and order for my and then Myles Turner has to 646 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: be able to shoot threes. Like I just think that 647 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: thing fits. So those those are the ones. 648 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: All right, Doug, rank your three favorite new WNBA cities. 649 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: Is the league is at thirteen teams right now, gonna 650 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 3: go to Feen, but you got Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia, Portland, 651 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: and Toronto. Maybe you're in the Sophie Cunningham camp. But 652 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: rank your top three of those five? 653 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? 654 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: Again, And I didn't I didn't hear I saw I 655 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: read her remarks or like a headline of them. But 656 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: my my take would be if you're the w n 657 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: B A be different. They will embrace you if you're 658 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: in if you're a market that doesn't have an NBA team, 659 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: a Nashville for example, Right, Tennessee's had great basketball history. 660 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: Why not? But anyway, if I have to rank those summer. 661 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 3: Cities, just any any way of those five. 662 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: I know, I'm trying trying to figure out what they 663 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: already had to Who is the I know? Toronto, Cleveland, Portland. 664 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia, Portland, Toronto. 665 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 5: J. 666 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 2: Philly Okay three Portland two Toronto one. 667 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: Never been to Tronto to me, neither, I've been that 668 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: poor Portland was a war zone. 669 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: All right, we'll wrap it up with this, Ranke. Your 670 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: three favorite watercraft anything from a surfboard, boogie board all 671 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: the way up to your yachts. What do you like? 672 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 2: Cruise ships, surfboard three? Okay, uh, wake boat to jet 673 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 2: ski one. 674 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: There it is pontoon boat. Honorable mention. And that's game time. 675 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: Game. 676 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: This is game time on the Dug Gottlieb Show. 677 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: Almost died to pontoon boat day before my wedding. I 678 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: just tell you the story up coming, wasn't the boat's 679 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: fault drinking and boats shifting away? Coming next to the 680 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: Doug Otley Show. We've all regrets, but only Dan has 681 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: buyer's remorse. 682 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 2: That's next.