1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Daybat podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: you listen. It's Friday, the twenty eighth of June in London. 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepcare Coming up today, President Biden delivers a 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: faltering debate performance as Donald Trump doubles down on falsehoods, 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the MF last, the US over the size of its deficit, 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: and increasingly protectionist policies. Let's start with a roundup of 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: our top stories. President Joe Biden and former President Donald 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Trump have held their first head to head debate in 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: the run up to November's election. The two men clash 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: on everything from the economy, to foreign policy, abortion, and 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: even the quality of their golf game as they each 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: sought to win over undecided voters. But it was the 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: repeated stumbles by President Biden that caught the attention of many, 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: with a performance that exacerbated concerns about his aim. Here 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: is one such stumble on healthcare during the CNN debate. 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: person eligible for what I've been able to do with 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: the with the COVID, I excuse me with dealing with 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: everything we have to do with Look if we finally 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: beat Medicare. 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: The shaky performance threatens to wound Biden's already sputtering campaign, 23 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: fueling Republican attacks that, at the age of eighty one, 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: the oldest president in the US history, is not fit 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: to serve another four year term. Trump sort of capitalize 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: on Biden's missteps, taking a swipe at his rival during 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: the exchange on immigration. 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: There are forty fewer people coming across the border illegally. 29 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: It's better than when he left office. And I'm going 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: to continue to move until we get the total ban 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: on the total initiative relative to what we're going to 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: do with more patrol and more President Trump, I really 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: don't know what he said at the end of those sentence. 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: I don't think he knows what he said either. 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Trump's performance during the CNN debate was not without missteps, though, 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: and when asked about Americans struggling with opioid addiction, the 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: former president talked about immigration and Russia's detention of a 38 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal reporter when it comes to the matter 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: of policy, Though the dividing lines between the two men 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: were clear, with former President Trump repeatedly and awkwardly sidestepping 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: questions about whether or not he would respect the results 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: of the election. Here is CNN moderator Dna Bash asking 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: the question for a second time and the response. 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: President Trump, as they come back to you for a 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: follow up, The question was, will you accept the results 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: of this election regardless of who wins? 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: Just to finish what he said, if I might Russia, 48 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: they took a lot of end from Bush. They took 49 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: a lot of land from Obama and Biden. 50 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: They took no land, nothing from Trump. 51 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 5: Nothing he knew not to do it. 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: Former President Trump also repeated numerous untruths during the debate, 53 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: fullsely claiming credit for a cap on Medicare insulin prices 54 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: and also saying that the January sixth writers were invited 55 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: into the capital by police, and President Biden was keen 56 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: to draw a clear distinction on the area of trust 57 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: with his rival, focusing on Trump's many legal challenges the crime, So. 58 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: You are still charged with and think of all the 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: civil pedelies you go. How many billions of dollars do 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: you own? Civil penalties for molesting a woman of public, 61 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: for doing a whole range of things of having sex 62 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: from a porn star on the night while your wife 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: was pregnant. I mean, what were you talking about? You 64 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: have the morals of an alley cat. 65 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: But despite some strong moments, Democrats publicly and privately expressed 66 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot in the aftermath over Biden's performance. Speaking on 67 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: condition of anonymity, one Democratic lawmaker told Bloomberg that the 68 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: president appeared a shell of his former self and that 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: the party must have a conversation about replacing him on 70 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: the ballot. Now moving on, but also focused on the US, 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: the IMF has criticized the United States for running deficits 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: that are too big, being weighed down by debt, and 73 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: increasingly aggressive trade policies. Despite referring to the world's largest 74 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: economy as robust, the fund slightly downgraded its estimates for 75 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: growth for this year by a tenth of one percent 76 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: to two point six percent. The IMF Managing Director, chris 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: Alina Georgieva, added that the US Federal Reserve should proceed 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: carefully when it comes to rates. 79 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: The policy rate should be lowered only after there is 80 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: a clear evidence that inflation is sustainably returning to the 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 4: two percent target. 82 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: The IMS Chrysillina Gyorghieva. Speaking there, the Global Financial Watchdog 83 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: also cautioned that unsustainable US boring and competition with China 84 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: are creating risks for the world's economy. 85 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 5: Now. 86 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: The leaders of France's three main political parties have taken 87 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: part in another televised debate there. Speaking during the event 88 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: on France too, the participants focus on international relations. Jordan Bardella, 89 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: from the far right National Rally, vowed to protect Ukraine. 90 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 6: So my position is simple, supporting Ukraine to avoid an 91 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 6: escalation with Russia, which is I remind you in nuclear power. 92 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 6: If tomorrow I become Prime Minister, no French soldier will 93 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 6: be sent to Ukrainian soil. 94 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Bardella's commitment to avoid deploying French troops to Ukraine 95 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: was echoed by the Socialist Party's first section Olivier. Forrey Ilia, 96 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: there are red wines. 97 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 7: Sending ground troops is absolutely not requested, either by Zelenski 98 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 7: nor the Ukrainians. 99 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 6: It's absolutely useless. 100 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: Olivier fore the speaking through a translator, he went on 101 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: to criticize President Macran's approached the conflict. Meanwhile, the serving 102 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Gabrielle Attal emphasized the consequences of a Russian victory. 103 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 7: If Russia won over Ukraine, it would also be terrible 104 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 7: for the daily lives of the French. Energy bills would 105 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 7: explode with more destabilization, and there would be a very 106 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 7: significant wave of migration to Europe. 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: That was Gabrielle Letao from Immanuel Macons were a Naissance 108 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: party there via a translator. Today is the last day 109 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: of campaigning in France before the first round of voting 110 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: this Sunday. European Union leaders have nominated as of onderline 111 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: for a second time as President of the European Commission. 112 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: The decision comes as part of an agreement on top 113 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: jobs for the bloc's next five year mandate, but will 114 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: still require confirmation in the European Parliament. Speaking to reporters 115 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: following the news, Ursula Vondelion discussed her next steps for me. 116 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 4: This means that I now will seek confirmation from the 117 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: European Parliament on my appointment after presenting my political guidelines 118 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: for the next five years. So there's another step to 119 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: do on the way forward. 120 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Erslavon Delyon speaking there. Alongside her nomination, the 121 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Costa was endorsed as the head 122 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: of the European Council, and the Estonian Prime Minister Kayak 123 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Kalas was picked as the EU's High Representative for Foreign 124 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: Affairs and Security. Fond DeLeon was confirmed for her last 125 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: term as commissioned President by the narrowest margin in the 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: EU's history. Now, let's dig into the main story this 127 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: morning for us, even here in Europe watching closely. They 128 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: were introduced as the forty sixth President of the United 129 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: States and the forty fifth President of the United States. 130 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: Biden and Trump their first head to head debate. We 131 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: did actually seem to learn something new you about the 132 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: candidates running in November's presidential election and joining me now 133 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: to discuss his Bloomberg's John Harney, who is in Washington, 134 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: d C. 135 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: For us. 136 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: John, You're staying up very late to speak to us, 137 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: so we really appreciate it. President Biden looked wobbly right 138 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: from the start. Did he dispel concerns about his age. 139 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: The most important thing he had to do tonight was 140 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: to show that at age eighty one, he has the stamina, 141 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: the acuity, the fitness to take this most important monumental 142 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: job for another four years and he clearly did not 143 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: do it. He came across halting, sure of himself, spoke 144 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: very fast and a very low voice, misspoke several times. 145 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: Now he did improve as the hour and a half 146 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: or on, but clearly did not do what this campaign 147 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: had set out to do. They're the ones that called 148 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: for this debate in the first place. 149 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: So that seems a significant concern then for the Democrat camp. 150 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: The former President Trump has been convicted of forcifying business records. 151 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: He faces three more criminal indictments. Did he stick to facts? 152 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: How did he come across? 153 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: He often did not answer questions that were put to 154 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: him and kept going back to his main themes that 155 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: inflation is out of control and that that's Joe Biden's fault, 156 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: and that the border is wide open, the United States 157 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: is being flooded by migrants, and that the country is 158 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: not respected around the world. Joe Biden is responsible for 159 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: all of this. You know, he certainly was not accurate 160 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: when he spoke about insulin because the insulin was much 161 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: more expensive, and so they're putting out of reach for 162 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people with diabetes. He claimed that he 163 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: had put in place a policy that they'll make it cheaper, 164 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: that wasn't true. He minimized his involvement in the January 165 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: sick insurrection, for which he does face federal charges, and 166 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: he pointed it did not answer clear whether or not 167 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: he would accept the results of this November's election. 168 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: So that's a sort of brief assessment of what they said. 169 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: But in terms of the economy, there does seem to 170 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: be a disconnect, doesn't there between voters and the data, 171 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: something that we focused on, of course, on Bloomberg in 172 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: terms of the you know what they managed to enlighten 173 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,359 Speaker 1: us on when it comes to the economic policies. 174 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: A very unusual debate where two people who on his 175 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: president was president are facing one another a second time. 176 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: So both presented their versions of the economy as superior 177 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: and their opponents as terrible. Joe Biden spoke of the legislation, 178 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: the economic legislation to promote green energy policies and break ships, manufacturing, 179 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: and other industries back to this country and the jobs 180 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: that come with them. Of course, Trump spoke of his 181 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: economic accomplishments before the pandemic and during the pandemic, and 182 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: he pointed out the inflation was much lower. So both 183 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: tried to make their out stewardship as preferable to the 184 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: other guys. 185 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Okay, a last thought then, John, in terms of what 186 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: we'll take away from this, And there's another presidential debate 187 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: that's meant to be coming, obviously we were watching it. 188 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Also for foreign policy, there was some talk of Israel 189 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: and her mass of tariffs on China, also a big one. 190 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: Trump again said that the Ukraine War and the attack 191 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: by him Moss would not have happened under his watch. 192 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: Of course, he's provided all the previous occasions, he said 193 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: it in tonight, no evidence of why that's true. Biden 194 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: wasn't particularly persuasive enough as to what he's done, whether 195 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: you disgree with his policies or not, but he pointed 196 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: out that he has united fifty countries in the effort 197 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: to counter the Russian invasion, and he appointed Ao Heels. 198 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: Was very supportive of Israel, even though of course his 199 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: administration has come into great criticism from other Democrats for 200 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: the Israeli campaign in Gaza, so he had to walk 201 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: up very farline there. And Trump of course was very 202 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: critical of both of his policies of this record on 203 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: both Ukraine and Israel. 204 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 205 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 5: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 206 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apples, Spotify, 207 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 208 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 5: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 209 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,479 Speaker 5: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 210 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 211 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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