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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Thursday Night Football Eve. It's Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live here on a Wednesday, ready

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Speaker 2: to carry you into the twenty four hour countdown period

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Speaker 2: which will begin in about five hours from now. Then

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Speaker 2: we're twenty four hours from kickoff, give or take.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So we're getting close.

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Speaker 2: We are getting close. It came up fast as expected.

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Speaker 1: Nice short week.

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Speaker 2: It's I like it well after last week's game. Yes,

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Speaker 2: can't get here soon enough. Some of the players are

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Speaker 2: even saying that even though their bodies might not be Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of that right off the rip, we have

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Speaker 2: some player designations already for tomorrow night's game, none of

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Speaker 2: them really coming as much of a surprise, but Dawson Knox,

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Speaker 2: Quinton Morris, and Baalon Specter have all been ruled out

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Speaker 2: of tomorrow Night's game against the Bucks by head coach

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott. The final injury report designations will be released

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Speaker 2: this afternoon at some point, which will list everybody else

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Speaker 2: because we know we've got some other players who have

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Speaker 2: been limited in practice this week, like Jordan Phillips, who's

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Speaker 2: had a back problem, and Oliver still coming back from

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Speaker 2: the tow injury. So we'll have to see what their

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Speaker 2: official designations are. Are they questionable, they not even listed,

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Speaker 2: or they good to go. So we'll get that a

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Speaker 2: at three o'clock. The other information to pass along, the

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Speaker 2: Bills brought back defensive tackle Ili Anku, who was signed

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Speaker 2: to the practice squad. He was on Buffalo's practice squad

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Speaker 2: earlier this season, but got poached off of it by Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: and then Atlanta released him earlier this week, so he

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Speaker 2: was available. Bill signed him back to the practice squad

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Speaker 2: six three three, twenty five six year veteran. He's been

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Speaker 2: here on a couple of stints before and has been

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Speaker 2: called upon on game day at times to be a

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Speaker 2: run stuffer. And knowing how shorthanded they are on the interior,

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Speaker 2: knowing Jordan Phillips is nursing a back injury at Oliver

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Speaker 2: a practice squad elevation tomorrow to play on obvious rundowns.

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't surprise me a bit. They need the big

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Speaker 1: body in there at six three three twenty five on

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Speaker 1: Kup is exactly that, and he's got some familiarity with

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Speaker 1: it in some chemistry with these guys. It's not something

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen this team do before to every right

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Speaker 1: a bunch of positions. So yeah, that's it's standard operating

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. Meanwhile, at the tight

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Speaker 2: end position, Steve, you're down Dawson Knox and Quinton Morris,

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Speaker 2: which would virtually assure that for the first time this season,

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Speaker 2: undrafted rookie Joel Wilson tight end will be elevated from

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Speaker 2: the practice squad for tomorrow night's game as well. You're

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Speaker 2: not going to go into the game with just Dalton

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Speaker 2: going to need a third, even if it's just to

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Speaker 2: fill a special team's role or something like that. God

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Speaker 2: and God forbid one of those guys goes down with

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Speaker 2: expecting the undrafted rookie at of Central Michigan, Joel Wilson,

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Speaker 2: out for those if and when they happen. They may

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Speaker 2: not happen till tomorrow, but those are our best guesses

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Speaker 1: Joe Wilson six four to twot fifty rookie out of

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Speaker 2: I liked him in training candid too, A sure handed player.

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Speaker 1: He he looked the part, didn't look out of place,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, certainly, it's a great opportunity for him. Don't

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Speaker 2: Together pretty well too, Like he's got a thick bill,

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Speaker 2: he's not really wiry. Yeah, he can run a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he doesn't run like Kincaid runs,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too. He should be after two months

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Speaker 2: Bill's practice updates presented.

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Speaker 1: By Leading Tom We don't know if it is or.

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Speaker 2: Not Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. So there we

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Speaker 2: are with your practice updates.

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Speaker 1: What if they don't activate him, what if they go

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Speaker 1: like and then they activate Tyrrel shavers a receiver Isabella

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Speaker 2: Sure it's one of those dudes. You're going five shaver,

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Speaker 2: yeah shait, yeah, exactly where ten personnel You're going the

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Steve just wants to spread him out and throw it everywhere. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: it could happen. Uh, let's go around the NFL. Here briefly,

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Speaker 2: Steve presented by Kalida Healthy, Official Healthcare System of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Because there were some really weird things that

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Speaker 2: happened in the league yesterday. You got the Titans deciding, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to play Will Levis our

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Speaker 2: rookie quarterback this week. Ryan Tannehill's hurt and he's out.

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Speaker 2: But they also have their other quarterback, Malik Willis. Malik Willis,

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Speaker 2: is that right? Yeah? Why I'm getting hung up on

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Speaker 2: Malik Cunningham from the Patriots, so I wanted to make

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Speaker 2: sure I had that right. So head coach Mike Vrabel

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Speaker 2: an interesting development. Then out of nowhere, veteran receiver Marvin

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Speaker 2: Malik Cunningham. Now they did say. Belichick did say yesterday

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Speaker 2: It was lunacy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they it's although, you know, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: And then Marvin Jones wasn't the only player to just

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Speaker 1: A hard game, man, I don't believe. I don't question

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Speaker 1: it's a hard game to play, man. It hurts right,

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Speaker 1: and I have no disparaging right man, Good for you,

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Speaker 2: Colts owner Jim Ersa is again making waves with comments. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: for those that missed the game, the Colts were the

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Speaker 2: the officiating department of the league contacted the Colts and said, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 2: Jim irsay that he had to comment, so he did

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Speaker 2: and says, incorrect calls lead me to believe that we

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Speaker 2: should get to a place where any play is reviewable

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Speaker 2: How much do you think that would bog down a

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Speaker 2: three hour game, Steve? Where do you think we would

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Speaker 1: All right, Well here's the thing. I told you this

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Speaker 1: a while you'd get a game and in the third

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Speaker 1: because as everybody saves those challenges until the game is

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Speaker 1: they do their broadcast with about five cameras. The NFL

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Speaker 2: by Kalida Health. Topic of discussion for you today, uh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so tell us maybe you want to change the

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, go for wide and shift

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Speaker 2: acknowledge defenses play you differently at the end of a

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Speaker 2: half or at the end of a game when you're

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Speaker 2: in that kind of hurry up two minute mode, there's

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Speaker 2: something to be said about getting this offense in a

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Speaker 2: rhythm sooner rather than later, in light of how the

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Speaker 2: last three first halves have gone the last three weeks.

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Speaker 2: So even Stefan Diggs was asked about it yesterday when

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Speaker 2: he spoke with the media, and he essentially said, Josh

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Speaker 2: appears most comfortable in that mode. So there's a ringing

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Speaker 2: endorsement from your top receiver to hey, I think Josh

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Speaker 2: looks pretty good doing that too. So I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: not like he's an abject failure everywhere else. But you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, if that's the strength of

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Speaker 2: his utilize.

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Speaker 1: It, it leads the league in total touchdowns. So but

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Speaker 1: we've said this all before, and you know a lot.

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Speaker 1: Lusman said that, you know, they turn it over a lot.

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Speaker 1: Josh turns it over more than anybody over the last

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Speaker 1: three years. Well, they also scored just about more than anybody.

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Speaker 1: And as long as you're scoring points out, I don't

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Speaker 1: care score. Just keep scoring, you know.

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Speaker 2: Because the alternative is going back to what Tyrod Taylor

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Speaker 2: gave you no turnovers and one touchdown pass a game.

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Speaker 2: And now you're trying to win seventeen thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven. Yeah. Yeah, And this team scores more

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Speaker 1: than anybody over the last three years. They're scoring twenty

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Speaker 1: nine plus a game over the last three years. You

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Speaker 1: gotta I think that where you got to play to

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Speaker 1: your strength and get in your wheelhouse. So I think

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Speaker 1: spread them out and be a little bit more aggressive

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Speaker 1: offensively and put them put them on where they got

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Speaker 1: to find guys, and they have to make some decisions

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Speaker 1: about who's got who and who's where. And I think

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Speaker 1: so I think for me, you shift and then you

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Speaker 1: motion and see what you got.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty one, eight of eight, five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: point fifty open lines for you there to chime in

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Speaker 2: with your game. Plan for a Bill's victory on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: But we lead off with doc in Williamszale. What do

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Speaker 2: you got for his doc?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, glove your show. Try to watch it every day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks you.

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Speaker 4: Questions, I have two questions. Dorsey's getting thrown under the

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Speaker 4: bush here for play calling, who's really calling the play?

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Speaker 4: He has the opportunity Allen does to check off.

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Speaker 2: Well, right when he has a run pass option?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 4: Doled it every time. Every every time a pass player

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Speaker 4: is called, it's either his own pattern or it's a

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Speaker 4: man pattern. I understand that. But how much he plays

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Speaker 4: is a checking off?

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Speaker 1: Well, if he checks off, it's to a play. Ken

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Speaker 1: Dorsey told him to check off too. They have a menu,

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Speaker 1: so he'll go up with have if if he sees this,

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Speaker 1: he'll check to this play. If he sees this other thing,

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Speaker 1: he'll check to another play. But all those plays are

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Speaker 1: they have conversations.

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Speaker 2: Call two plays in the huddle essentially.

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Speaker 1: Some of them. Yeah, they'll call two plays in the

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Speaker 1: huddle and they'll be a checkoff player or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: they're all put in by Ken Dorsey. Now now Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott as a head coach has the has the you know,

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Speaker 1: authority to chime in a run that run it here

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Speaker 1: or pass it here. And he may have he may

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Speaker 1: have a deep enough knowledge of the offense to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I isolate Digs here, get the ball to Digs or

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Speaker 1: put the ball in his hands or this guy's hands

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Speaker 1: or that guy's hands or whatever now. But I have

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Speaker 1: no idea how often he does that, if at all,

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Speaker 1: during game time. Uh, most coaches kind of stay away

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Speaker 1: from that, but certainly all of them do that once

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Speaker 1: in a while. They weigh in, and he'll also McDermott

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Speaker 1: will also get in Ken Dorsey's here and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: listen if it's third, if it's second and ten, and

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Speaker 1: he says, hey, listen, if we get to fourth and

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Speaker 1: less than two, we're gonna go for it. So use

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Speaker 1: that in your subsequent second and third down calls that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have fourth down if it's close, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. So if they'll get out ahead of

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Speaker 1: it like that. But all the plays that are called,

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Speaker 1: and all the plays that Josh checks to are Ken

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Speaker 1: Dorsey plays. I maybe there's situations where Josh goes off

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Speaker 1: script and says, I wanted to call this I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: call this, well, yeah, and you can probably do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that happens on occasion, and there are other instances.

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Speaker 2: And dan Orlowski from ESPN when he was on with

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Speaker 2: us yesterday in his weekly appearance here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: talked about how Josh chose not to hit hot routes

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Speaker 2: in the game last week against New England. Not every time,

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Speaker 2: but there are a few instances where the hot route

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Speaker 2: was there to beat a blitz and he chose not

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Speaker 2: to utilize it. That's a decision making error on the

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Speaker 2: quarterback's part and has nothing to do with the offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator and what he called, because the play was there

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Speaker 2: to be made based on the play that was called,

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Speaker 2: and the quarterback chose not to make the throw for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason. But that's that's why Doc called because I

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Speaker 2: think he feels that Ken Dorsey's getting an untold amount

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Speaker 2: of the blame for some of the struggles of the

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Speaker 2: offense when it can't be all on him.

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Speaker 1: They're all they're all they all carry a responsibility. The

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Speaker 1: head coach, the offensive coordinator, and the quarterback. They all

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Speaker 1: carry a responsibility for the offensive game plan and how

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Speaker 1: it's implemented and where the quarterback makes the right decision,

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Speaker 1: and once the ball is snapped, it's on the quarterback

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Speaker 1: to make it work. Getting him to that point is

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, and set in the philosophy of the

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Speaker 1: offense is the head coach. So they all kind of

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Speaker 1: have this realm of responsibility and they all have to

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Speaker 1: work together, and the offensive coordinator in the quarterback have deep, long,

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Speaker 1: extended conversations about why they're going to get into a play,

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Speaker 1: why they're going to call it in this certain situation,

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Speaker 1: what they're thinking when they call it, so that the

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Speaker 1: quarterback knows what he's doing and why. And when you

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Speaker 1: know why, that means you can also if it's not there,

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Speaker 1: you know where your answers are going to be if

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Speaker 1: if they got you. So, yeah, it's not And I

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Speaker 1: know we've said it earlier in the week after Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night sk We tend to oversimplify things like you know,

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Speaker 1: fire kindor see fired Sean McDermott. You know, nobody's saying

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Speaker 1: bench Josh Allen, But you know what I mean that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. When it's all three of them ultimately

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Speaker 1: that are responsible for how this thing works, it's it's

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Speaker 1: oversimplification unless you're sitting there on the headsets and you

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Speaker 1: can hear somebody mess it up and call the wrong

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Speaker 1: player or you know, do something stupid. We'll never know

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Speaker 1: if they do or not, but that's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside here for a break, but

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Speaker 5: It's a short week, so you know, if this we're

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Speaker 5: obviously I'm under two. We'd be happy to answer, even

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Speaker 5: going back to last week, but we've we've moved on

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Speaker 5: right now, and it's important we do that because we're

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Speaker 5: playing in two days here. So you know, our mindset

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Speaker 5: has to continue to be play offense in all three

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Speaker 5: phases and and so that attacking mindset is important offensively,

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Speaker 5: defensive and special teams.

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Speaker 6: The system that we have in place that allows us

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Speaker 6: to still have some some pretty complex calls. Our guys

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Speaker 6: know it. You know, we get some smart and tough

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Speaker 6: guys on this offense that you know, we feel like

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Speaker 6: can play multiple positions. So that's you know, we can

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Speaker 6: keep it as simple as possible and just kind of

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Speaker 6: run based stuff. And I feel like we have a

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Speaker 6: pretty good planning.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's already going for me. You know, Sundays

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Speaker 7: our hardest. We got a quick game on Thursday. Today's

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Speaker 7: today's Tuesday. But it's actually Friday for us, so getting

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Speaker 7: ready to play a really good time for Bay team

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Speaker 7: and all our focuses on there.

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Speaker 8: It's probably just the limited amount of time you get

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Speaker 8: to hone in on like really the little things. You're

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Speaker 8: not trying to make too much of a complicated game.

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Speaker 8: Kind I'll probably say, like usually we have the time

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Speaker 8: to like study and kind of like flip the pages.

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Speaker 8: I guess, like more so when it's a short week,

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Speaker 8: you plan fast and you kind of keep it real

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Speaker 8: really like not small, but still have an open play book.

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Speaker 8: But it's like all the stuff that we know we're

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Speaker 8: good at, we're playing fast and not thinking that's much.

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Speaker 8: And it's like you're a little bit fresher, Like I

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Speaker 8: know it's a smaller week, but you're not practicing as much,

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Speaker 8: like doing a little bit more walkthrough rather than just

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Speaker 8: putting a lot of ground on your body. So guys

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Speaker 8: are probably a little fresher, even though we had a

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Speaker 8: game on Sunday, so and it's just you know, you

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Speaker 8: get it up for it, you know, Thursday night football.

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Speaker 9: It is honestly a great thing, you know because as

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Speaker 9: a competitor, you hate losing. You hate when things go

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Speaker 9: and go bad. But I'm thankful that we have a

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Speaker 9: short week because we can get back on our on

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Speaker 9: our grind just real quick. And as you see, like

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Speaker 9: we're a day and a half out and we're practicing

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Speaker 9: like this our.

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Speaker 8: Second practice, So just keep keep the play calling condensed.

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Speaker 8: We just got doing the game, you know, a couple

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Speaker 8: of days ago, so you know, lighting a load on

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Speaker 8: the guys physically and mentally to be.

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Speaker 1: Able to go out there and play street.

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Speaker 3: We've been uh, this is the National Football League.

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Speaker 10: We've been a part of some tough losses around here

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Speaker 10: for going on seven years.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we know what type of guys they

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Speaker 3: have inside of this building.

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Speaker 10: Guys that care, Guys that want to win, so they're

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Speaker 10: gonna do everything they can to put into work. So

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Speaker 10: you know, that's just the message to the team and

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Speaker 10: from the top down, keep it in the work. So

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Speaker 10: we've got there and get a win on Thursday night,

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Speaker 10: sit here and.

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Speaker 3: Talk about it.

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Speaker 10: Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and even Sunday morning. You can get

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Speaker 10: out there Thursday night and you can get playing and

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Speaker 10: uh and and get a win under your belt and

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Speaker 10: play well and get that bad taste out of your

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Speaker 10: mouth way sooner than us and that game.

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Speaker 5: You know, the first the first twenty four hours are

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Speaker 5: tough going into a short week because you're you're we're'n rest.

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Speaker 5: But I think at the end of the days, it's

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Speaker 5: how you approach it, right, So it's a mental challenge,

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Speaker 5: and you got to look at it like, hey, this

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Speaker 5: is this is a great opportunity for us, and we

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Speaker 5: approach it with great energy and we look forward to

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Speaker 5: playing at home where we've played well this year and

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Speaker 5: in front of our fans. So to me, it's a

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Speaker 5: great opportunity. It's gonna be great weather like it is

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Speaker 5: today and no better time in Western New York than

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Speaker 5: this Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: All right. So that's soundbits presented by Tim Horton's get

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Speaker 2: the app Get Rewards. And while that was going on,

657
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Speaker 2: the Bills Wednesday injury report came out with final designations

658
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Speaker 2: and as we knew, Dawson Knox, Quentin Morris, Baylenspector all

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Speaker 2: out with injuries, questionable for tomorrow night. Ed Oliver with

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Speaker 2: the tow injury. He was limited in practice all week,

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Speaker 2: including today. Jordan Phillips good to go coming off the

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Speaker 2: back injury. He was a full participant in practice today

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Speaker 2: along with everybody else on the injury report who is

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Speaker 2: listed as good to go. So we'll have to keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on oliver status as we get closer to

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Speaker 2: game time and when the inactive list comes out an

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Speaker 2: hour and a half before kickoff, Hopefully he is good

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Speaker 2: to go for the game tomorrow. Knowing they're shorthanded at

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Speaker 2: tight end, they do have one on the practice squad,

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Speaker 2: undrafted rookie Joel Wilson, and then you also have defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Eli Ankou on the practice squad. So in the

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Speaker 2: event that Ed Oliver is available but may not be

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Speaker 2: able to go the whole game, maybe you call him

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Speaker 2: up to help in some of the run stuffing aspects

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Speaker 2: of the effort tomorrow night. But let's get to the

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Speaker 2: phones at eight oh three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number

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Speaker 2: to get on board, and we go to Steve and

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Speaker 2: Tanawanda next.

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Speaker 11: What do you got for a Steve, Hey, gentlemen, I

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Speaker 11: was I was just gonna touch on what Tasker was

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Speaker 11: saying earlier. I mean, I don't want to I definitely

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Speaker 11: don't want to see injuries, right, but doctor uh Dawnsin

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Speaker 11: Knox's injury might be a little bit of a blessing

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Speaker 11: in disguise. It's going to be forcing their hand into

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Speaker 11: eleven personnel. I think they'd play way better out of it.

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Speaker 11: Josh has a more open field to be able to

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Speaker 11: take off and run if he wants to. But also

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Speaker 11: going back to the last game, Josh also has to.

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Speaker 12: Pick up that hot lead. I mean there was two

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Speaker 12: incidents where they brought the guy up the middle of

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Speaker 12: the uneven and he had a hot read on where

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Speaker 12: he overthrew knocks in the end zone. I think it

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Speaker 12: was surefield at like the five yard line, and the

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Speaker 12: other hot red that he just wanted to scramble. He

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Speaker 12: threw it wide to digs on the sideline. I mean,

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Speaker 12: if he picks up them hot rege and just takes well,

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Speaker 12: the defense is given them when they're bring him the

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Speaker 12: extra guy. But I do want to see him run more.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to see him good hurt. But that

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Speaker 12: was how the offense was working for the last three years.

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Speaker 12: You know, Josh would extend them drives, picking up the

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Speaker 12: nine ten eleven yards. Mahomes does it all the time,

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Speaker 12: and I think that offense would look a little a

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Speaker 12: lot less. I mean, just the last game of the Chiefs,

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Speaker 12: Mahomes extended probably four or five drives. Ty had taken

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Speaker 12: off running, but he did the smart thing and got

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Speaker 12: out of bounce or his slides. That's the thing Josh

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Speaker 12: has to get out of his mentality of being a

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Speaker 12: linebackers taking guys on on the sideline instead of just

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Speaker 12: scooting at a bounce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, no, you're you're on the mark with that,

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. We all agree if they win games.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if Josh runs at every play, if

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Speaker 1: he gets out of bounds or slides and nobody ever

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Speaker 1: hits him, if he stays healthy, nobody. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: We know that sooner or later. When you run and

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Speaker 1: you run and you run, somebody's gonna get a shot

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Speaker 1: at you. Certainly, Josh should be at a point of his

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Speaker 1: career now where he knows how to mitigate that stuff

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Speaker 1: easily slide instead of instead of a first down, it's

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Speaker 1: a second and a half a yard if you slide

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Speaker 1: early and don't take the hit, and so take it.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. So, yeah, everybody's on that page.

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Speaker 1: I think the stuff about the eleven personnel. That's just

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Speaker 1: that's me and Brownie pontificating about what we think will

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Speaker 1: happen given the roster. You know it, certainly eleven personnel

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Speaker 1: makes some sense when you've got a healthy stable of

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Speaker 1: receivers and like one healthy tight end who's seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of action. Right, there's just nobody else you're gonna

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Speaker 1: trust more than the guys that have been there and

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Speaker 1: playing all year.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of hopeful that it means more time on

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Speaker 2: the field for Transurfield. I think he's a guy who's

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Speaker 2: talents you need to explore a little bit more. You

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Speaker 2: haven't through the first seven games of the season, and

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Speaker 2: you might find an answer there that you didn't know

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Speaker 2: you had. Even Deontay Hardy has only been sprinkled in

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Speaker 2: through these first seven games. And you know, to Steve's point,

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Speaker 2: you got to play more receivers in this game because

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Speaker 2: you don't have tight ends, right. So it might be

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Speaker 2: a blessing in disguise because at the very least, you'll

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Speaker 2: find out more about what you have in your receiving

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Speaker 2: corps that you really haven't tapped into a whole lot

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Speaker 2: as of yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, and there's plus there's no going there's

748
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Speaker 1: no bailing out on it if it doesn't work right away.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like make it work.

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Speaker 1: You can't, like all of a sudden conjure up a

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Speaker 1: tight end in the middle of the game if it's

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00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: not going well in three wide. So I'm confident though, too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it. They got enough guys in

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Speaker 1: this locker room to beat anybody in any personnel combination

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Speaker 1: you want to throw at it. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: with Josh pulling the trigger and the guys they've got

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Speaker 1: at these positions in this offensive line. This offense is

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Speaker 1: a handful and the fact that it hasn't been hitting

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Speaker 1: on all cylinders is noticeable to everybody. They've lost two

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Speaker 1: out of the last three games and haven't looked good

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Speaker 1: in any of them offensively, and and it's been mostly

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I think most Bills fans feel

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Speaker 1: this way. It has hasn't been the Jaguars or the

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Speaker 1: team they just played. I can't rein Patriots, can't be

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars or the Patriots that are. You know, we

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Speaker 1: don't blame them. I blame the Bills offense not playing

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Speaker 1: well enough and playing up to its potential. Making, you know,

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Speaker 1: not executing well enough, rather than playing a team that

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Speaker 1: was worthy of beating them. This team stinks against bad

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Speaker 1: teams and plays lights out against the good ones for

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Speaker 1: some reason.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, let's go back to the phones and

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Speaker 2: to Kevin and Hamburg. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 13: Kevin, Hey, guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking

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Speaker 13: my car. The two points the game playing is offensively

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Speaker 13: with a struggling We cannot let Lemonte, David or Devin

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Speaker 13: White terrorize us with a struggling offense like we've had

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Speaker 13: the last few games, because those guys, they were just

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Speaker 13: ruin the offense before it even gets started. Maybe keep

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Speaker 13: a spy on them. You know they always talk about

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Speaker 13: keeping spies and quarterbacks like gall Or Lamar Jackson. Keep

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Speaker 13: a spy on David, maybe even Devin White ones a

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Speaker 13: while to make sure they don't like terrorize the whole

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Speaker 13: Hall fense and defensively, just terrorize bigger Mayfield. I know

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Speaker 13: he's having a little bit better year than he's been

786
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Speaker 13: having the last couple of years, but he's still bigger Mayfield.

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Speaker 13: He eating Allen and eat Mahomes. So if you harass

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Speaker 13: him and terrorize him, I guarantee he'll go back to

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Speaker 13: the bigger when when he's stunk real bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with that. He's on an interception

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Speaker 2: streak right now. He's got something like seventeen games in

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Speaker 2: a row with at least one interception. He'll throw you one,

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Speaker 2: so take advantage of it if you can get it.

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Speaker 2: But you're right about those linebackers because those guys trigger

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Speaker 2: a lot on blitzes. And we heard Dani Rolofski talk

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Speaker 2: about it yesterday. The dropback passing game is a mistake

797
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: against this Bucks defense because those two guys are on

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Speaker 2: you fast. Play action will help you because those guys

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Speaker 2: are so quick twitch that they'll bite on play action

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Speaker 2: a lot and leave you room behind them to make plays,

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Speaker 2: you know, over the middle. But I would anticipate that

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00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: the Bills throw a lot to the perimeter in this

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Speaker 2: game because those two guys in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: field are ballhawks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about Baker Mayfield been on an eighteen

806
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Speaker 1: game interception streak. What do you think they're saying about

807
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: our guy? He'll give you one, two, he'll throw it

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: That's they're the only two quarterbacks since twenty eighteen who

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Speaker 2: have more than sixty interceptions the only two that's that's

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Speaker 2: not nothing.

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Speaker 1: And really, when you're talking about that difference between them

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Speaker 1: is the fact that Josh scores a ton of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Baker doesn't, or at least not to the point that

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Speaker 1: Josh does. Josh overcomes that stuff and he keeps your

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Speaker 1: team on the field and in it. Baker has struggled

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Speaker 1: to be consistent.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, more

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Speaker 2: of your phone calls. Dean and Tonawanda will lead us

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Speaker 2: off when we return, and coming up an hour number two,

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Speaker 2: what's your game plan for a Bill's victory Thursday night?

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Speaker 2: Eight O three oh five fifty the number to get

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Speaker 2: on board. But we go to Dean in Tanawanda to

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Speaker 2: lead us off this segment. What do you got for

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Speaker 2: his Dean?

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Speaker 14: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Just wondering with

838
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Speaker 14: missing hot routes and a couple of overthrows, stuff like that.

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Speaker 14: It's shoulder hurt? Is it stiff? Is it sore? Is

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Speaker 14: it where it should be? Looking at the game plan

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Speaker 14: for this week? He can't just still obviously Diggs with

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Speaker 14: a ball up and down the field, that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 14: But could he possibly be hurt more than more than

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Speaker 14: what they're.

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Speaker 1: Saying, Well, you gotta all I have to say is

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Speaker 1: you got to take him at his word. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be doesn't act like it, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like he's lying to anybody when he says he's

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Speaker 1: not hurt, So you got to take him at his word.

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Speaker 1: He says he's not, and the team and he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's deep. He practiced deep practices this week, I mean

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Speaker 1: practice fully, so practice ful. So that tells you a

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Speaker 1: lot as well.

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Speaker 2: So, and last week they told you they did scans

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Speaker 2: on his shoulder after the Giants game. They came back fine,

856
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Speaker 2: Nothing was structurally wrong with his shoulder. He just said

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Speaker 2: he had some some soreness in there and some pain,

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Speaker 2: and it was just a matter of dealing with that

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Speaker 2: as the soreness went away. Now, if you're playing football

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Speaker 2: every week and you're playing twice in five five days,

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Speaker 2: all that soreness is probably not completely out of your shoulder,

862
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: so you got to deal with it a little bit.

863
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: I get it, though, You're right, but he made some

864
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: throws that was that were uncharacteristically inaccurate. I will say that.

865
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: He always has two or three that are like that, right,

866
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna use two examples as to why I

867
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: think his shoulder's fine. He gets an all out blitz

868
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: in the red zone last week from the Patriots, and

869
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: he puts a load of mustard on the touchdown pass

870
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: he throws to Dawson Knox. Now it gets nullified on

871
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: penalty for the rub route on Latavious Murray, but I mean,

872
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: he put everything he could on that pass to Dawson Knox.

873
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the game, twelve seconds

874
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 2: left the pass, he throws deep over the middle over

875
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 2: fifty yards on a rope to Diggs. Unfortunately, Diggs can't

876
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: come up with the catch. That to me tells me

877
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: his shoulder is fine. So structurally, everything we've been told

878
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: is it is intact. It is not compromised. So if

879
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: he's dealing with a little soreness, he is and seems

880
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: to be doing fine despite the soreness. So I think

881
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: his shoulders, you know, a non issue as far as

882
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: you know, some structural damage that would influence his mechanics.

883
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna miss two or three throws every week, just

884
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: with an accuracy issue. I mean, he overthrew a guy

885
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: fifty yards downfield. I think the arm's okay.

886
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good point too.

887
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

888
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's I get it. A lot of people

889
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: were questioning that after the game, even me during the game.

890
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: But you know, he's saying it, and you gotta take

891
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: him at his word, and he's practicing.

892
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: I just this isn't everybody. I don't I don't want

893
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: to throw everybody in this boat. It's it's just it's

894
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: it's remarkable to me how many times people want to

895
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: find reasons for the performance drop off, even as small

896
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: as it might be in Josh's performance. I'm just going

897
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: to tell you I don't think he played bad last week.

898
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: I really don't. I think there were some good defensive

899
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: calls by Belichick's crew, Girodmeyo, whoever else that put them

900
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: in some bad spots, got them in some bad play calls,

901
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: and they got victimized because of it. But there were

902
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: also some instances where plays were there to be made

903
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: and they didn't make them. So I know people are

904
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: tired of it, but we keep coming back to execution.

905
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: And as I said earlier in the show, there was

906
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: an instance where you dan Orlowski was pointing out the

907
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: coordinators have hot routes called on these plays where the

908
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: blitz is coming and you just got to pull the trigger.

909
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with his shoulder. It's all

910
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: about decision making there. And Josh has an enormously high

911
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: football IQ, which is what makes it even more surprising,

912
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 2: because the guy knows what he's looking at every single snap.

913
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: He usually makes the right call ninety five percent of

914
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: the time, so when that doesn't happen, it comes as

915
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: a surprise. But that doesn't mean we should go looking

916
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: for excuses as to why it is. It's just just

917
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: didn't make the right play, didn't make the right decision.

918
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I'm with you.

919
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm that's all. I mean, I don't think it's You're

920
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: not trying to vilify anybody for it. I'm just saying like, yeah,

921
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just didn't make the right.

922
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: Call, you know.

923
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. And it happens because you know those

924
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: guys over there, they're studying all week on tape, trying

925
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: to stop him from doing what he does every week.

926
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: So I mean, they got good people too, even on

927
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: one of the worst defenses in football. So you just

928
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: got to hope that the good plays outweigh the bad,

929
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: and the good decisions outweigh the ill advised ones. So

930
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: you can be ahead on the scoreboard, your defense can

931
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: go rush their passer because they have to throw to

932
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: catch up in the game. That's the formula for this team.

933
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: And when you're tight on the scoreboard, it makes it

934
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: harder for your defense's pass rush, which had been leading

935
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: the league up until this week in sacks, to really

936
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: get home and wreck a game for an opposing offense.

937
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but when we

938
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: come back at our Number two begins with the Hall

939
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: of Famer Thurman Thomas set to join us next here

940
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo

941
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:48,800
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942
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,360
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943
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome to the hour number two. Chris Brown's

944
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,800
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945
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948
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Speaker 2: us a visit each and every week. Kind of you

949
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: to do that, sir, Good to have you.

950
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: Great to have you.

951
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: Man.

952
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: Ready to be here? Yeah?

953
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: How you doing to be here?

954
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Gona be there tomorrow, absolutely, I am ye.

955
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: Know what time you? What time is Therman Thomas? Show

956
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: up for an eight to fifteen kick?

957
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: Uh?

958
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: Like into the stadium.

959
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, around seventy.

960
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: Like my wife does. Yeah, about a half hour before. Can.

961
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: I ain't got down of stopping here and stopping there. No,

962
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm getting here and I'm going to my seats.

963
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get here about it, and I'm gonna get

964
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: here about eleven, am am.

965
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: One.

966
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: Oh you do. And I told Jay, I said, I'm

967
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna be late because I because once like Park, I'm done.

968
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

969
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm showing up late.

970
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 3: Well I got to show up early tomorrow too, so

971
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: you know I gotta show early four to six.

972
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh you got somewhere heart a thing, a.

973
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 3: Sports Okay, Yeah, it's in the game. It's in the game, right,

974
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 3: it's in the game.

975
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

976
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Be here at four.

977
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: I'll bring you one. Well, we'll have a cigar sometime

978
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: at some point. We'll talk things over.

979
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that.

980
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 2: Hopefully you can do it after as a victory cigar.

981
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: It will be a victory. It has to be a victory.

982
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: It's going to bed by seventeen.

983
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Is this a must win?

984
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely it is. It's a must win. Now, you

985
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: don't want to be four and four. We're already sitting

986
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 3: at the seventh seed and we got a bunch of

987
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: the guys and we haven't even got to the meat

988
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: of our schedule yet. It's a must win. Absolutely, it's

989
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: a must win. And I want to see seventeen doing everything.

990
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: I want to see him doing everything. Release, Release the beast.

991
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: Man, I said. We were saying, because you know Dawson

992
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: Knox wrist surgery. I think Brownie are thinking they can

993
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: quit Morris the wide the wide receiver room is healthy,

994
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: the tight end rooms down to one guy.

995
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: One guy.

996
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: He wants to go ten personnel.

997
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: And go eleven.

998
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't talking about it on.

999
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 2: The way to what and split out James Cook?

1000
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.

1001
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to cover the fullback anywhere I.

1002
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Want on the field. You can't have Kinkaid on the

1003
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: field if it's a ten personnel.

1004
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: Oh, let's count him as one of the ten.

1005
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's go eleven one personnel. Have Kinkaid out there. Yeah,

1006
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: and then let's roll. That's right.

1007
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, And I was telling him tight

1008
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: end too, Yeah, exactly.

1009
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: And they got a guy in the practice squad.

1010
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking too, if the Tampa Bay has a reputation

1011
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: of Brownie was telling us that they would like to

1012
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: blitz a lot of the time. I think he spread

1013
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: them out so they have to you kind of get

1014
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: an idea of what's happening behind who coming from? So

1015
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: who's coming from where help Josh out, spread them out,

1016
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: go shotgun and and go break the huddle at you know,

1017
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, and then call the play at the line.

1018
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: Let's go do whatever man long as seventeen is involved.

1019
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm good.

1020
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: I got news for He's probably gonna touch the play

1021
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: on every offensive snap.

1022
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: Well, I saw something like his first four or five

1023
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: years where you know, his yard per carry was really

1024
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 3: high ten yeah, and now it's the lowest has ever been.

1025
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: He's got fewer than one averaging run a game, less

1026
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: than one designed runs or quarterback sneeze.

1027
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1028
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, here's my thought, here's my thought.

1029
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 3: Waitit wait, okay, hold that thought. If Lamar Jackson can

1030
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: do what he's doing, Josh can do what he's doing,

1031
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: I get it.

1032
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened to each of the last two years, though,

1033
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: get hurt. Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just putting it

1034
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: out there that shouldn't be discussion.

1035
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, listen.

1036
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: Listen to me. Listen to me for a sec.

1037
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: Joshus two hundred and fifteen pounds in a rail.

1038
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: And listen, listener, Why they're doing it this way. Here's

1039
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: why they're doing it this way.

1040
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: Listen to me.

1041
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: They know this is his theory. They know they're going

1042
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: to the playoffs because the ain't enough teams that can

1043
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: beat them that much. They got a tough schedule, but

1044
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: they're getting to the playoffs. I think they keep that

1045
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: stuff all in and when they get the playoffs, when

1046
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: it's all on the line. So now you're getting that

1047
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: student body left with Josh but ball under his arm,

1048
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: let's go. You're getting that when the playoffs come, and

1049
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: when the playoff push comes, they start to unwrap that

1050
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: stuff and add it in and our defenses don't know

1051
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: what to do.

1052
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: We ain't got time to be waiting to the playoffs.

1053
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: That's what I say, Well I got to do.

1054
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a sun because now we're looking at

1055
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: seven games now and every team is looking at Okay,

1056
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 3: we do this to stop them. We do this to

1057
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: slow down their office. We need to put that tape

1058
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: on from the last couple of years. This is what

1059
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 3: they're about now, this is what they're about. Man.

1060
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think it's gotten to a point where

1061
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: defenses are playing them differently now because they're not worried

1062
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: about him taking off and running. If it's man coverage

1063
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: or you know what I mean something like that.

1064
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: They're not worried about I don't think I don't think

1065
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: they're worried about it.

1066
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: It's putting a spy out there on him. Now you

1067
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: got an extra guy in coverage the whole thing. I

1068
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: think they're playing the Bills differently because he is not running.

1069
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone sent me a stat I just said that,

1070
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: like the first seventeen completions or throws or to the outside,

1071
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 3: nothing was in the inside.

1072
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: And that might be the same this week because Devin White,

1073
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: Antoine Winfield and Levante David they shut down the middle

1074
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: of the field. So hey man, look that's where they

1075
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: get all their takeaways.

1076
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at him going like, can't James option?

1077
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 3: Can James Cook run an option route?

1078
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: I think I think he can't, right, I think he

1079
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: can three touchdowns against Ohio State a couple of years ago.

1080
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 3: Hey catch, we got.

1081
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: To Ohio State is not the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with

1082
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: Devin White and no, these jokers, they're not nobody. I'm

1083
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: not Ohio. I'm not saying anything like.

1084
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: The point is he is capable of doing.

1085
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: Alan has scrambled a career low five point five percent

1086
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: of dropbacks compared to eight point three percent in his

1087
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: first five seasons, So it's down perspective.

1088
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: Did you did you see who the legend of the

1089
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: game is?

1090
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: No?

1091
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: I did not. Who is it?

1092
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: You may have heard of him and.

1093
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: Didn't know that. No, wonder he's coming to town, right,

1094
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: all right, good for him.

1095
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: We're good to see him.

1096
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: Good to see him.

1097
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1098
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: See if he can uh deliver in pre game.

1099
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 3: I think he will be able to. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1100
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: I think.

1101
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: Uh. Let's let's go back to the nineties locker room.

1102
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: Who who was Who was the rah rah guy that

1103
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: would fire people up like the legend of the game?

1104
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: Does me?

1105
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 1: Leonard?

1106
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: Leonard Smith first Smith?

1107
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Darryl, Well, yeah that makes sense.

1108
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 3: Darre Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't really pretty much those

1109
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: two guys kind of Darren kind. I wasn't.

1110
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: We were not allowed rock as locker room. We were

1111
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: a pretty business like locker room. I thought.

1112
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we were.

1113
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: Business everybody knows what you think about about it? Yeah, no,

1114
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: I remember not.

1115
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: You know, those guys like Gabe Northern guys would get

1116
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, jacked up a little bit.

1117
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: But you know, well he kind of struck me as

1118
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: a smoke out of the years kind of guy anyway, right,

1119
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: his engine kind of ran a little hot sometimes.

1120
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it did. But no, Yeah, like you said,

1121
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 3: we were a business like I guess that was how

1122
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: we approached it. That's even on the road because you know, yeah,

1123
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: for twelve years on the road I wore suit, So

1124
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: it was business like.

1125
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we were. We were dressed up.

1126
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: We were dressed up every single week. I mean we

1127
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: could be going to New Jersey to Blaye the giants

1128
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: we had had a super.

1129
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: At least didn't get that wrinkled.

1130
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, we were okay, everything was business like. No,

1131
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: you know, I think the man. I can't even remember

1132
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: a guy doing it really besides Leonard Smith his first

1133
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 3: couple of years here. Yeah, but besides that, it was yeah,

1134
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: like that's what said business Yeah.

1135
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, no we gotta do. Nobody's got to shout at

1136
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: us to tell us we're ready. Okay, that's fair. I

1137
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: was curious, Uh, what do we what do we think

1138
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: of no huddle, hurry up to get the offense in

1139
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: a rhythm sooner, Thurmot. That's been a big bone of

1140
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: contention this week. Steph Diggs Yesterday said he thinks Josh

1141
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: is most comfortable in it, which was a pretty That

1142
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: was a pretty ringing endorsement when your number one receiver says, yeah,

1143
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: I think the quarterback looks most comfortable in that.

1144
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1145
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: And I know, and I've told Steve, I know that

1146
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: defenses play you differently at the end of a half

1147
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: or end of a game when you're in that no

1148
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: huddle mode. But what do you think about that at

1149
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: least kickstarting them into some kind of a rhythm sooner

1150
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: in games they're averaging less than four points a half

1151
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: the last three games.

1152
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: Therm, I know, you gotta do something different.

1153
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: Well, what do you think about that? Is that a

1154
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: realistic way to kick you into gear or no?

1155
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1156
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean from the last three weeks,

1157
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: we don't know anything. We can't figure out anything.

1158
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: There were times last week though, when they went hurry up,

1159
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: they moved the I mean, it's not like they didn't

1160
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: move the ball last week. This isn't sticking in the

1161
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: end zone enough.

1162
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first for us, for this football team, I

1163
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 3: think the first drive is critical, really critical. I mean,

1164
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: because look, we're at home, we're Thursday night. Once again

1165
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: primetime game. You know, you go one, two, three and

1166
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: out this game, you might have some booze all the

1167
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, all of the depending on the looks,

1168
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: how it looks, exactly how it looks.

1169
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: Get boot early if they get I know, but come on, man,

1170
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: we know.

1171
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 3: That they have in the last three weeks, so but

1172
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: I think they got to get off to a faster

1173
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it. I don't know.

1174
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: If you ain't nobody put bills three plays in bro,

1175
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: Come on, it could happen if you're on a quarterback

1176
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: sneak on first and ten. Maybe. Yeah, I get this. Yes,

1177
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm fine with the realm of possibilities. Certainly they could

1178
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: come out, stink it up and get booted. You know what,

1179
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. No, I don't think that happens.

1180
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: I think they come out and fly. Okay, that's what

1181
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: I think. That's what I want. While all of it's

1182
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: a possibility, yeah, I think my scenario is more likely

1183
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: to happen. Okay, and you go out there before years

1184
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: was likely to happen. You said, if they if they

1185
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: do this, then this, Yes, you're right.

1186
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: All right, come on, bro. So let's take a look

1187
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: at this differently in terms of kicking the offense into year.

1188
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: I proposed hurry up. You were kind of mixed on it,

1189
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: not sure. What about empty sets because they've used those

1190
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: more the last couple of weeks and they've had some success.

1191
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: What do you think about maybe going to empty set

1192
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: to give Josh some easier reads, gets the defense to

1193
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: declare a little bit more. What do you think about

1194
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: maybe some empty set early to kind of get them

1195
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: into a rhythm. That's fine with me.

1196
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 3: That's fine with me. We can do it. I mean,

1197
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 3: actually I like that. Okay, Yeah, spreading it out a

1198
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: little bit more, because when you spread it out a

1199
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: little bit more like that, now Josh can see those

1200
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: lanes now, Josh, because there's not going to be two

1201
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: linebackers in there. It's probably going to be one linebacker's probably.

1202
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: White, right, right, And that's a lot of the reason

1203
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: why they split the back out, because he pulls a linebacker.

1204
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: There's a linebacker out. So yeah, I will love to

1205
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: see that.

1206
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: I do too, because not just because of what it does,

1207
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: but also because they have done that much out of

1208
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: that formation. Right. But I told Brownie what I would

1209
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: like to see him do is get out in a

1210
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: condensed formation and let the defense get set and then

1211
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: shift out of it. See how they just and then motion.

1212
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: Let because they got some corners that are first and

1213
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: second year guys, let them let them start have to

1214
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: talk and find guys. And I'm sure, and I'm all

1215
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: right confident at the quality of the Bills skill guys.

1216
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: They can find a match up they like. And the

1217
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: object is to dictate. If you want Diggs to get

1218
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: the ball, put him on that guy, move him over there,

1219
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: put that guy, make him adjust and then and then run.

1220
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: Easier said than done. But I think when you get out,

1221
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: you shift, get the defense to communicate and start talking,

1222
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: and then motion, get them to start talking and communicating

1223
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: and make them switch assignments and adjust and make them

1224
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: go deep into their adjustment package. And then you then

1225
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: you snap the ball. And that's it. Takes some time

1226
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: pre snap, so you get like I said earlier, you

1227
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: got to break out of the huddle early. Get up there,

1228
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: let them look at it, and and go from there.

1229
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: You know what, Let's hold if we win a toss,

1230
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: we're probably gonna defer. So let's hope the defense goes

1231
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: out and one, two or three table punts gets everybody

1232
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: really and I'll get a turnover something I don't know,

1233
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: Just to change it up a little bit, you know,

1234
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: let the defense go out first, create some havoc a

1235
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 3: little bit, and you know, maybe get an inception. Who

1236
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: knows what it might be, but let them go out

1237
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: and shut them down first.

1238
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: Couple of times we saw Dalton Kincaid with his most

1239
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: productive game so far last week. James Cook was a

1240
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: part of the attack again last week. What do you

1241
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: think about maybe somewhat of a youth movement on offense.

1242
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: Dick still gets his, but after that it's gotta be

1243
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: Kincaid and Cooked. They've been two of them serious, seriously,

1244
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: like two of the younger guys on offense. But they've

1245
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: been more two of the more reliable guys in terms

1246
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: of making plays, have they not?

1247
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 3: They have been making play I mean you can probably

1248
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: sit up here and say that you know, they've made

1249
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: more plays than Gabe Davis hass I mean talking about

1250
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: ken k week to week by week to week. Yeah,

1251
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: especially Cook. I like his cook game from the start

1252
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: of the season and all the way to now. He's

1253
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: getting better. It seems like he's getting more comfortable. They're

1254
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: using him a little bit more. The only thing that

1255
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 3: I worry about with that is that you know what

1256
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: you see Latavis and there only because of Blitz pick up.

1257
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that god because he's a small guy.

1258
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: He's a small guy, but man, the dude is explosive.

1259
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: He gets open. You know, he's so you can see

1260
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 3: him running now and all of the stuff that happened

1261
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: last year with his first first carry fumble, he was

1262
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: on the bench a little bit. He's not that guy.

1263
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: He's a different guy this year.

1264
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, he does show even if

1265
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: he's a smaller guy, he has shown a willingness to

1266
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: step up and try and take guys on and sometimes

1267
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: he's successful doing it. He's just he's not Latavious murph. Yeah,

1268
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: he's not. Get that.

1269
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: But it all depends on how he positioned his body.

1270
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he could block lawns tailor if he had

1271
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: to on a three step drop. But but I mean,

1272
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: what are you getting better and better?

1273
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: What do you think it says? And we've been talking

1274
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: about this a lot of the target efficiency. I mean,

1275
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: you got three of the guys there's like nine guys

1276
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: who caught passes. Three of them are the only ones

1277
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: who dropped it. Diggs caught half his target, six of twelve,

1278
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: Gabe caught one of five, and Knox caught one of three.

1279
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: But you got kin Kid caught all eight, Cook caught

1280
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: all three, caught all four, Murray caught all both of his.

1281
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: They're reliable.

1282
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: Jhont Hardy caught the one target he had and Sherefield

1283
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: caught the one target he had. Now, certainly, more targets

1284
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: means more opportunities, like, you know, for something to happen,

1285
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: get defended or dropped me whatever. But how much you know,

1286
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: when do you make a change due to those numbers?

1287
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: You know?

1288
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,959
Speaker 1: When when do you like do you guys start having

1289
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: to say, like and we need to get this guy

1290
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: at more, this guy less thing?

1291
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: When do you change?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: And what castes you to I have no idea other

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Speaker 3: than that.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, I have no idea. Well let me

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Speaker 2: I'll let me pose it to you a different way.

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Speaker 2: X So Trent Sherfield was signed here in the off season.

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Speaker 2: He had a very productive spring, really strong training camp.

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Speaker 2: The guy was good enough to be the number three

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Speaker 2: receiver in Miami last year behind two guys named Hill

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Speaker 2: and Waddle, third best option in the passing game in

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Speaker 2: Miami with that offense. We have yet to explore what

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01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: he is capable of in this offense. How opposed would

1305
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: you be, especially being down tight ends right now, to

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01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: maybe take a longer.

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Speaker 3: Look at that.

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01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should be pleasantly surprised with what you find.

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Speaker 3: You could be. You could be. Yeah, I think it

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Speaker 3: right now. Everything's on the table. Everything's on the table.

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Speaker 3: If you have to put him out there to get

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Speaker 3: more playing time and get more involved, you do it

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Speaker 3: because like, look, we got after this, we got ten

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Speaker 3: days and throw out next game. Okay, so go and

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Speaker 3: do it. I think I think we're going to see

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Speaker 3: something different tomorrow night. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Knocks injury, yeah, but Quentin Morris injury. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think if Dawson Knox comes back and we start

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 3: this trend, a really good offensive trend, well you know

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Speaker 3: what I might now, I'm gonna let him sit a

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Speaker 3: little bit until he gets fully healthy. If this change

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Speaker 3: of offense.

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Speaker 2: Works, this surgery means it's gonna be a minute, it's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a while.

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Speaker 2: So so get used to it. You may want to

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: be looking for better answers here because you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: stuck with that going forward.

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Speaker 3: And now with out on the football field, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: get more playing time. Let's let's see him on some

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Speaker 3: routes like the first play of the game against New

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Speaker 3: England where they had knocks run in the corner. Let's

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Speaker 3: see him do that. Now, let's let's see him more downfield.

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Speaker 1: I think we're also and we've been in this spot

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: before with this team, with Josh and Diggs and McDermott,

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Wherever, once in a while in the

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, you get in this point where

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Speaker 1: you feel like your marginal are is gone gone, you

1338
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They're four and three. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you gotta start winning some games. And they've been here before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, where was they were six and seven or

1341
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: one pointers, seven and six, seven and six seven, and

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Speaker 1: then they and then they won out you know, they started,

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01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: they went on a run. That's when they actually got it,

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you do feel a

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: sense of urgency with this season slipping away and the

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: gauntlet of the schedule coming up. Man, oh man, they

1347
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: got to get some things figured out. And that's and

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01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: so the time's out right, and that's that kind of sense, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You got after this game, you got ten days until

1350
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 3: you play your next game. Yeah, it's it's time to

1351
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: flip the switch on. It really is.

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Speaker 1: You're halfway. I mean there's just eighth game.

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight game, man, and and and even with that,

1354
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 3: we're still one of the highest scored team in the league.

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: That's because of the first the hot starts we had

1356
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 3: three and four two, three and four four. That has

1357
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 3: gotten us up there. But if you take away those,

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, we're kind of in the middle or at

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 3: the bottle.

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Speaker 1: It's been a feast or famine kind of thing. Yeah, yeah,

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: they're either thirty seven eight or forty eight fifteen. You know.

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Speaker 2: Defensive question for your therm. We've seen Vaughn for three

1363
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: weeks now on the field. Last week only six snaps.

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01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 2: He insists there is not an issue. There was not

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: a setback. Coach McDermott said, they just have to manage

1366
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: his time on the field better. That could mean any

1367
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: number of things like, hey, he just doesn't have it today,

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: Let's get the healthy guys out there. I don't know

1369
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: what it means we're all guessing. But how long until

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 2: we see the real Vaughn is starting to be a

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: concern for some fans, and I think unfairly so, because

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Speaker 2: as soon as they saw him back on the field,

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 2: they're like, ah, a couple of weeks, they'll be good

1374
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: to go. And he gave us indication addressing the media yesterday,

1375
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: and Sean McDermott echoed this point. It's gonna take some time.

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, trust me.

1377
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you want the real Vaughan sooner rather than later.

1378
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 15: But this situation right here, I was at Vaughn's what

1379
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 15: thirty three, thirty two, thirty three, I was twenty one,

1380
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 15: twenty one when I hurt my knee, And now that

1381
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 15: I see that he's wearing a.

1382
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 3: Brace, it takes a while. Yeah, it takes a while

1383
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 3: mentally to get over that. It took me a four

1384
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 3: year because I started wearing a brace and I wore

1385
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: from my junior year all the way till I retired.

1386
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: But he's not. He don't have ten more years in

1387
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 3: but this is something that he's not used to. He's

1388
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 3: not used to wearing a brace.

1389
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did do an ACL in twenty fourteen.

1390
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 3: Was it the same one.

1391
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it was this. I can't remember if

1392
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 2: it's the same leg or not. I'd have to look

1393
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: it up. Not sure so. But he's been through this

1394
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: rehab before, right, But he wasn't thirty three when he did.

1395
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't thirty three when he was in his prime. Yeah,

1396
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: now he's still a beast.

1397
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: Now, he's still a beast just being on the football field.

1398
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: I mean, and look, we didn't.

1399
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: Have it right, It is questionable for tomorrow night.

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01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: I mean that, Yeah, they got it, there's no question

1401
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: they've got it. One of the imperatives, especially now they're

1402
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: four and three, one of the imperatives is their health.

1403
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: They got to get guys healthier. They got to get

1404
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: Rousseau is not one hundred percent. I don't think you

1405
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: know ed obviously then, And they got to keep stay

1406
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: healthy where they're at. If they start losing more and

1407
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: more bodies.

1408
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: They're not losing They're not losing role players here, they're

1409
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: losing all pro players. Yes, that's the best, right, Like

1410
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 2: the three guys that are out of the lineup, you

1411
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: can make an argument Milano top five at his position

1412
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: in the league. Tredavious White probably top ten at his

1413
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 2: position in the league, day Kwon Jones probably top ten

1414
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: at his position in the league. You lost all three

1415
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 2: of them, not just for a couple of weeks either.

1416
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: Now heads out too, there's another all pro caliber guys

1417
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: four out of your eleven starters, probably the five best

1418
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: guys on your damn unit.

1419
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: You don't have it. You don't You got guys well,

1420
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: Tredavious White, Baal Inspector, Justin Shorter, Matt Mulano, Daikwon Jones,

1421
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: Damien Harris, Tommy Doyle, Zach Davidson, some of those guys

1422
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, some of you don't. They're all on ir.

1423
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean the defense has the defense has slipped since

1424
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: those guys have left the lineup. Their run defenses like

1425
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: thirtieth in.

1426
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: The league since we.

1427
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 3: Have rotation.

1428
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 2: Now, fortunately they're playing a team that's twenty ninth in

1429
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: Russia Russian and thirty thirty first in yards per carry.

1430
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 2: So maybe it looks better this week, but I'd like

1431
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: to have it if he can play England.

1432
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't good either either, Yeah.

1433
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 2: So I mean might not mean a hill of beans.

1434
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: How glad they've been.

1435
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 3: I know, I know, we just got but that's why.

1436
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: That's why the offense has to pull on the rope

1437
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: a little bit harder. Now they have to create a

1438
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: margin for error. They got to create a bigger margin

1439
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: for era, knowing your defense is not going to be

1440
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: as air tight as they usually are.

1441
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 3: I think one of the thing when I really when

1442
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,839
Speaker 3: I think back to like when we're we in this position,

1443
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: I can't remember being in you know what year. It

1444
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 3: might have been ninety two where Bruce was out and

1445
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 3: Cornelia's got hurt in the first quarter and we're looking

1446
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 3: over it like, oh my god, We're playing the Saints, like,

1447
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: oh my two of my best guys are gone for

1448
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 3: the rest of the day, and we in offense like

1449
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 3: we got to step it up, we have to step

1450
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 3: it up. And we were going against you know, Pat

1451
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: Squilling and that they had some guys. Then we were like,

1452
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: we got to step our game up. We have to.

1453
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: It's like game or something.

1454
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 3: We win that we lost our best two players. Yeah,

1455
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: you know, and then you see like Mark Pike. I

1456
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: love Mark Pike, but he's not going to rush a

1457
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: pastor like Bruce Smith Mark had.

1458
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 1: I love that guy, but he had one career side.

1459
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: Right, I know, So I mean, it's totally mindset, like

1460
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: you know one versus if I'm the Bills office, I'm

1461
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: like you do. We gotta try to put forty on them. Yeah,

1462
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: we gotta try to put forty on them.

1463
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: I get it.

1464
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: Thanks for popping in.

1465
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 3: He appreciate.

1466
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 2: See you here at the game tomorrow with your eleventh

1467
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: hour arrival, We'll relax. Hopefully we are all enjoying a

1468
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: Bill's victory tomorrow night. That's the Hall of Famer Therma

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: Thomas joining us here as he does every week on

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01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Stay tune. We'll be back with more,

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Speaker 2: including your phone calls and the latest edition of Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: mister Tasker. We'll see what question he has to answer

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Speaker 2: this week coming up next. Stay tuned, all right. One

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Speaker 2: roster note to pass along concerning the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: They have activated running back Chase Edmonds from injured reserve.

1476
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: He hasn't played since Week two, and he is back

1477
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: in the fold. As we know, and as we've told you,

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01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: the Bucks ranked twenty ninth in rushing and Edmunds for

1479
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: most of his career anyway, has been a committee back,

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: hasn't really been a featured guy at any point in

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: his career. Also a fordem grant, Steve, He's a fordham

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Speaker 2: Ram did not know that interesting. He'll be wearing jersey

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01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: number twenty two tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Disinterested.

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Speaker 2: I can tell by your thank you for that invitation

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01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: by ignoring me as I'm passing along the information that

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Speaker 1: Thoughtful, that is important to you and your.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and I understand why you're ignoring me

1490
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Speaker 2: is your favorite memory from the nineteen ninety three Cold

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Speaker 2: Division playoff game against the Raiders?

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: Well, I had an the easy one is I had

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Speaker 1: a kickoff return for almost a touchdown. I caught a

1504
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: knuckleball kick and ran it down. Yeah, you were, I

1505
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: was the up guy. It was. It was, dude. It

1506
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: was so cold that day. You can see it by

1507
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: think the highlights. Bruce like vasiline, the Vasilyne froze on

1508
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: his face. I mean, goodness, gracious, it was really really cold,

1509
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: dangerous cold. And the Raiders were actually pushing us around

1510
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: pretty good in this game. They had us early in

1511
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: the game, and then I got a chance to catch

1512
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: this kick and then got us down. We got a

1513
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: score on the board, and I think that made it.

1514
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: It was ten to nothing or something like maybe thirteen nothing.

1515
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: And this is the play here that they're shown now.

1516
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: And I catch this and I start, I catch it

1517
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: and I'm going the other way so fast. The Raider

1518
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: guys didn't have any idea I even had the ball,

1519
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: so I miss went pop by him, and finally Willie

1520
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: Gold comes and runs the circle around me before he

1521
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: pushes me out of bounds. He's really fast. And the

1522
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: next play, Kenny goes in for the touchdown.

1523
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: Kenny Davis.

1524
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: Kenny Davis. So we're now it's instead of thirteen nothing,

1525
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: we're getting pushed. It's thirteen seven, I think or something.

1526
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: It's you know. And then right before halftime, Andre, who

1527
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: is the legend of the game this week, goes down

1528
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: the middle and gets you know, somebody breathes on him

1529
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: and he goes down like he's been shot, right, and

1530
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: he gets a pass interference call down the middle of

1531
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: the field, and all of a sudden, we get a

1532
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: field goal before halftime. So they've been beating the stew

1533
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: out of us. And it's thirteen ten at halftime and

1534
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: we're only down three. And then in the second half

1535
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: we came out and out and it's out distanced them

1536
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: and they had they literally had guys on their sideline

1537
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: that couldn't go in the game. They were so cold.

1538
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: It was bad. It was bad.

1539
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: I'm looking it up right now. So it says air

1540
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,879
Speaker 2: temperature five degrees winds out of the northwest, it's sixteen

1541
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 2: miles per hour with the wind chill. It was minus

1542
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 2: thirty two.

1543
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: It was so cold. I remember too, I in my well,

1544
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: not in my office now, but I had a picture

1545
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: in my office of me on that kick return, and

1546
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: was after I'd gotten pushed and I was flying through

1547
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: the air in this kick return, and I was looking

1548
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: at the pylon like, it looks like I almost scored, right. Well,

1549
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: I guess it did. But it's interesting because that game.

1550
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: I have an older brother who his claim to fame

1551
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: was that he was at every single home playoff game

1552
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: I played in my career in Buffalo, which there was.

1553
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: There was a bunch of them, right, and he came

1554
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 1: up for every one of them. And then this particular

1555
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: one I never got to see him before the game

1556
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: because because of the weather, he got got put heat. Now,

1557
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: now you're going to Laguardi. Okay, So he's in Laguardi.

1558
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: So he's talking to the agent. Yeah, he goes, how

1559
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: do I get to Buffley because oh Buffalo, they ain't

1560
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: going to Buffalo. I can get you to Rochester. And

1561
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: he goes, hit, my brother, is that closer? He doesn't. Now,

1562
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: he goes yeah. They go well, yeah, So he goes

1563
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: on the plane to Rochester and on the plane He's

1564
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: got Bill's gear on stuff, and Bill's guys, hey going

1565
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: to get Yeah, but I can't, you know. He tells

1566
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: him the story. He goes, hey, well we're driving, you

1567
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: can ride with us. So he goes awesome. Let's go.

1568
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: So well, these guys are going I don't even know

1569
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: if they're going to the game, but they're going to Buffalo.

1570
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: They're in this van, a tool van, like it's in

1571
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: a you know, it's like plain strains. And my brother's

1572
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: sitting on a cooler in the back of this van,

1573
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: like holding on to the mesh the medal John Candy. Yeah,

1574
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: he's holding on to the medals. Caging you know, this

1575
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: thing as they you know, got Holk Bandboygan hanging from

1576
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: the ceiling. You know, it's just going down the highway.

1577
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: And he makes it to the game. And in the

1578
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: picture that I told you about in my in my

1579
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: office down down along behind the bench, I can see

1580
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: my brother in the picture. He made he made it.

1581
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: He made it, he made it. So there you go.

1582
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: I it looks like thirty seconds left in the third quarter,

1583
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 2: you're up twenty two seventeen after a Christy field goal,

1584
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: and the next possession Tim Brown eighty six yard touchdown

1585
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 2: from Hostetler twenty seconds later, and now the Raiders are

1586
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: up twenty three twenty two.

1587
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 12: Wow.

1588
01:20:58,680 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

1589
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: At the end of the third quarter, and then Billy

1590
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: Brooks scores his second touchdown of the game with twelve

1591
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 2: oh five left, and those were the last points scored

1592
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: in the game. Bill's win twenty nine to twenty five.

1593
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: That was also I think the game where I actually

1594
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: I tackled Timmy Brown on a punt return and we

1595
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: ended up kind of looking at each other and he's

1596
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: he pointed out because we had played together in the

1597
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl a ton, right, so we knew each other.

1598
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: He pointed at me because he knew if I didn't

1599
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: tackle him, it was going to be a long wait.

1600
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know it then, but as you know, we

1601
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: watch the film back, it looked like he was going

1602
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: to go for a long one. I got him, and

1603
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: he pointed at me, like, you know, kind of you.

1604
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: Guys did a good job on him. We had three

1605
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 2: punt returns for seven yards with a long of six.

1606
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: We had a good we had a good crew back then,

1607
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: back in the day. We hit it on all cylinders

1608
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: and that was That was a fun game.

1609
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: In case you're wondering, oh man, was it cold? In

1610
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: case you're wondering if the weather kept fans away for

1611
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: the playoff game, it did. Total attendance in what was

1612
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: then in eighty thousand seats Stadium sixty one three, about

1613
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 2: twenty thousand people. It said, yeah, I'm watching this one

1614
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: at home.

1615
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: It was cold, man, it was really cold.

1616
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,440
Speaker 2: I mean that's a I mean that's really cold to

1617
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: sit out in for three hours. You know, that's that

1618
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: takes them doing.

1619
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: You got to be ready. You gotta be ready. Guys

1620
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: are running around and they, yeah, we have it better

1621
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: than any players have it better than anybody because they

1622
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: got those they got the space heaters and the benches,

1623
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: the heated benches. But I remember too, I went over

1624
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: and because you know, you don't drink very much when

1625
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,839
Speaker 1: it's really cold, because you don't feel hot and thirsty,

1626
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, but they always tell you got to force liquids.

1627
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: We go over there. I grabbed a cup off the

1628
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: thing and it was like it was like solid rock.

1629
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: It was like a block of ice. There was nothing

1630
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: even to drink because it was like leaking. You had

1631
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: to peel the you had to peel the paper cup

1632
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 1: off the ice cube, right like lick the ice cube

1633
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 1: to get it was because it was freezing that fast.

1634
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: It was that cold.

1635
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember for the perfect playoff game, Bill's Patriots

1636
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: forty seven seventeen a couple of years ago. The guys

1637
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 2: were drinking hot chocolate because that was the only thing

1638
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 2: coming out of the spigot that was still late.

1639
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,879
Speaker 1: They had. They also gave them. They had They had

1640
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: chicken broth. They put on the sidelines too, it which

1641
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: is I don't know, for some sports science reason. I

1642
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: was a sideline guy for that game for Westwood. Dude,

1643
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: it was really cold to that game. It was cold

1644
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: for that game all right.

1645
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: Now, So this Thursday night though, no, great, Oh my gosh,

1646
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. It's supposed to be like sixty.

1647
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: Man. We can't we can't afford to have too many

1648
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: of these games like the Miami game here and then

1649
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: this game here, because people's people start moving in and

1650
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 1: then the neighborhood goes. You know, you just to keep

1651
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 1: people thinking that there's it's snowy and cold here in September.

1652
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: So that is this week's edition of excuse me, mister tasker.

1653
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: Want to take a quick peak at the tweet sheet

1654
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: here in terms of your game plan for a Bill's

1655
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 2: victory on Thursday night. Tweet sheet brought to you by

1656
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

1657
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: Buffalo bills. Capos chimes in with Josh Allen runs a

1658
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 2: little more. The offense shouldn't rely on it. Tyler Bass

1659
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: hopefully gets back on track. Buffalo doesn't defer on the

1660
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: coin toss. Josh throws the rock to at least seven

1661
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: different players. The pass rush gets back on track, getting

1662
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: four sacks. Go Bills. That's a long list.

1663
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: That's a checklist, man, that's all right, that's what we ask.

1664
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 2: If they do all of that, they will win. But

1665
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: that's a lot. Steve says, predominantly eleven personnel with RPOs

1666
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: and play action both mixed in with under center and

1667
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 2: shotgun kN Kaid needs to move up to second in

1668
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: terms of first reads. Oh and let's get some wheel

1669
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:53,879
Speaker 2: routes to cook going. You're welcome in advance game planner. Extraordinary, Steve.

1670
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: That's the humility that really really shines through. Really attractive there.

1671
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: Rob says, sandlot football on offense, stop over thicker, just

1672
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: throw it, already.

1673
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 1: Throw it if there's nothing there running go on one.

1674
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: Mike says, score early and offen all about the offense

1675
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, can you imagine if a coach just

1676
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: went into the room before the game. All right, guys,

1677
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: here's our game plan. Snap early and often sand lot football,

1678
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: Go get them.

1679
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: Here's the plan. Call it. Come again, Josh says, you

1680
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: guys up front, block them up. You guys get open.

1681
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: If nothing's there, I'm running on one. Yeah, let's go.

1682
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 1: You know that's funny.

1683
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason says, throw the ball.

1684
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 3: Bar.

1685
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: They're trying to be more balanced, and it's not working.

1686
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: When they have to throw the ball at the end

1687
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: of games they've been almost unstoppable. That kind of goes

1688
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: to the point where you're trying to talk to thrman

1689
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: about earlier stock go ahead.

1690
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: There's hard. It's hard to get around that logic because

1691
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: it always seems anecdotally to be true as to see

1692
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: as they But here's what happens. You get in these

1693
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: games are one score games, or even if you're down,

1694
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: like the Bills have been in moments where they got

1695
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: to get back into it with a couple of scores. Yeah,

1696
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: they drop back and throw, but the defense is playing

1697
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: a little bit differently, so it always looks different and

1698
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 1: their mindset's different. Early in the games, things are different

1699
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: than they are late in the games, mentally for both

1700
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: teams and for the play calls for both teams. So

1701
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: I get the logic, and it's hard to refute it

1702
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: because you see it every week. Team gets desperate, the

1703
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: other team's got a lead, and they kind of like

1704
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: stand up and kind of like, oh yeah, okay, we

1705
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: got you know. And then the other team's desperate and

1706
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: they start trying some things they wouldn't normally do, and

1707
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: they come through on a couple of them, and all

1708
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's being niptitty pop touchdown, clinkingly plink

1709
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: plink boom down the field, and all of a sudden

1710
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: it's a two point game. Again, Like how did that act?

1711
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: And I get it. This team we've seen do that

1712
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: even when they're not in close games. Drop back, throw

1713
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 1: at score and then let the defense hang on, just

1714
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: do whatever they can do. Get a turnover, get it,

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01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: you know whatever. The margin of air becomes so wide,

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01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: and fans don't like close games. They like big fat wins.

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: So whenever you're not doing that, whenever you're not doing that,

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01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: people are complaining.

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01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: Well in there, checking fingernails down to the well. It

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01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: is what it is. We got to take a break here.

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01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheeet when we return

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Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

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01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. Some final thoughts on the tweets sheet here,

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01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: stock Op says, Bills come out first, few drives and

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01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: use tempo Kincaid as a factor early, have an answer

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01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 2: for simulated pressures and blitz packages. D Line needs to

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01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 2: be hungry. Jay Brissette says digs and kincaid combined for

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01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: sixteen catches and one hundred and seventy five yards. Bruce

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01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: says Josh needs to run several times early to pull

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01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: defenders up and then he'll be able to throw to

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01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 2: open receivers. Kp Kay says, realize that their backs are

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01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: against the wall and play with focus and urgency without

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01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: being reckless. Play like he did against Miami. Some stars

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01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: are gone, but enough remain to win against Tampa Bay.

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01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: And finally, Steve says, hopefully they use tempo early in

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01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: the game to get a lead. The Bills defense plays

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01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: vastly different with the lead then from behind. Would like

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01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: to see Isabella elevated with Knox being out and using

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01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,759
Speaker 2: him as a hot read. Tampa Bay will do similar

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01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 2: things with pressure like New England and Jacksonville did. The

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01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: defense does play vastly different with the lead than when

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01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: it's a tight game or whether when the Bills are

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01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: behind everybody does.

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01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Yes, that's but yes, and the you know, you're right,

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01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on here. We're gonna be on

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01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: tomorrow right before we be on from one to three tomorrow,

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01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,879
Speaker 1: so it's we're gonna kind of be at an extended exactly.

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01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: So there's all of this is going to be going on.

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01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: But I think you know, this is a team that

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01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: it's amazing how all of us kind of seem to

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01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: be on the wavelink of If they get off to

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01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: a fast start offensively, everything else takes care of itself.

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01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's going to be that easy,

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01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: but it certainly looks like it from this end. And

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01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: that's the one ingredient that has been missing, because in

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01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: the second half of games, even the Giants game where

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01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: they didn't score until the fourth quarter, they turn it on.

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01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 1: If they can turn it on when they do, they're

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01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: they're unstoppable.

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01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Right. It's kind of a lot like the Chiefs come

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01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: back from ten point deficits at halftime and then just

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01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 2: boat race people Bills have that capability, they just haven't

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01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: shown it all that much lately. Yeah, Big show tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Field Yates, Dave Moore from the Bucks Radio Network and

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01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: the Football Relationship Hotline. We're here for you. We'll see

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Speaker 2: it one