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Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within

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Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star and Frisco.

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Speaker 2: Today is Thursday, March seventh, and we are forty nine

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Speaker 2: days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Under fifty days to go.

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Speaker 4: Until the futures of the NFL are decided across every

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Speaker 4: thirty two of the organizations.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lte. We've

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Speaker 2: got Zach Walchuck back in action. Congratulations, Daddy Walchuck's buddy.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to you as well.

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Speaker 4: How about that just down here in the corner, just

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Speaker 4: four babies new, got it, got it done.

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Speaker 3: Look, hey, I guess you found out the triplets came.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, look this corner now it's mine between Nick,

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Speaker 2: Zach and myself.

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Speaker 4: Yep, there are four new babies the world. Congratulations Nick, well, John,

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Speaker 4: good job, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: It's a blessing. She's amazing, Yeah, unbelievable, great stuff.

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Speaker 4: And within forty eight hours of each other, we were

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Speaker 4: just trying to line it up for draft time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, she knew she's like, look, I was scheduled to

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Speaker 2: come close to the draft, probably about two weeks before.

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Speaker 2: I said, baby girl, can you come a little bit

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Speaker 2: earlier so I'm in ample shape to make.

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Speaker 5: Sure we can run those three days. Boom, good to go.

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Speaker 6: Do one of the players cough on you or something?

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Speaker 6: Did you catch something?

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Speaker 2: Clearly something in the water.

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Speaker 6: I don't even think it's in the water. I think

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Speaker 6: it's airborne. How many kids that were born from the

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Speaker 6: team and then outside of the.

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Speaker 2: Same time within four days of waltsha and less than

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Speaker 2: a week after ours were born? So yeah, yeah, airborne.

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Speaker 5: Bennett my son who sophomore in Texas now, he was

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Speaker 5: born three days after the four draft. And I remember

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Speaker 5: Parcels asking me, He goes, you're gonna be here for

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Speaker 5: that draft? I said, my kids being born, No, you

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Speaker 5: could do this by yourself and he's like early. I'm like, yeah, really,

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Speaker 5: it's my only kid, what what do you mean? But yeah,

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Speaker 5: then it held off till the Uh. It's always funny.

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Speaker 5: Draft weekend is uh is we celebrate after the drafts.

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Speaker 5: That's awesome. So it's kind of cool. But congratulations to everybody,

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Speaker 5: thank you. That's awful nice and it understood the sign.

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Speaker 4: We've got Nick Harris, Brian brought us Asha Morrison. I'm

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Speaker 4: Kyle Omens with Chris Beam in the back. And there's

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Speaker 4: plenty to get to. We talked about the combine a

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Speaker 4: lot on Tuesday. Most of that hay.

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Speaker 2: Is now in the barn. Now you're looking ahead to

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Speaker 2: thirty visits, you're looking ahead to Dallas Day, you're looking

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Speaker 2: ahead to these these individual meetings with players, Brian, and

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Speaker 2: this is a crucial time because now you have at

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Speaker 2: least you would think all of the medical information.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have.

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Speaker 2: Some guys some yeah, exactly, some measurements, some right, measurables

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Speaker 2: across the board. Right now, it's about getting to know

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: And we're to the point now where everybody came back

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Speaker 5: from the combine. You settled in. They'll start to get

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Speaker 5: the number. Uh, they've got their own numbers. They'll get

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Speaker 5: those plugged into their uh to their machines. Uh, they'll

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Speaker 5: get all that, they'll get their tags ready for the

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Speaker 5: meetings that are they're about to have.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the thirty visits. Those come pretty quickly, and

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Speaker 5: we'll start to see a bunch of guys have to

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Speaker 5: do the shuttles, all those the ones there, all those

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Speaker 3: Of that stuff.

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Speaker 5: There'll be a lot of that going on right now.

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Speaker 5: So it is it's a it's a really really really

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Speaker 8: I think for the the biggest thing that you could

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Speaker 8: love and scouting is context and data. Yeah, and Combine

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Speaker 8: over the course of the next month, this is when

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Speaker 8: I mean that's there's a big, big three day period

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Speaker 5: Well, it's the time too when there's draft meetings, and

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Speaker 5: I mean, you guys would be just finding these draft

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Speaker 5: And that's what it really comes down to. You know,

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Speaker 5: you go in that room, you close the door, you

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Speaker 5: watch the tape. There's some guys that go up on

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Speaker 5: the guy I'm about to present. You know, see, you

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Speaker 5: don't window dress your board. You know, have an honest opinion,

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Speaker 3: You know, don't. I mean, I just encourage people.

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Speaker 5: If you're doing this like you know we are, and

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Speaker 5: And that way, I'll tell you what you will. You'll

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Speaker 6: This is the time where things start. Guys start to

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Speaker 6: To make a little bit more sense than comparisons. But

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Speaker 6: I did have a question for mostly you, Brian, but

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Speaker 6: everybody can answer when I mean, okay, so some guys

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: Is there something to be said about the discomfort of

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Speaker 6: it puts you in. And because of course at the

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Speaker 6: they've been at their whole career or whatever the case

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Speaker 6: may be. There's some comfort that comes with that. Do

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Speaker 5: You know what, it's a it's a great question because

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Speaker 5: the guys, the quarterbacks that threw you appreciate because they're

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Speaker 5: not comfortable with These receivers are thrown to. They're lined

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Speaker 5: then some that are dropping everything in sight, you know,

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Speaker 3: Of players will tell you the way.

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Speaker 5: That the combine it drags you. It drags you from

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Speaker 5: thinking about Okay, Now I got to catch a plane

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it is a it is a tough, tough thing.

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Speaker 5: I we We've always done this though, even going back

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Speaker 5: to the early nineties when I first started here. It

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Speaker 5: you're still going to drive to Baton Rouge, You're still

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Speaker 5: drive to Austin, Texas. If these kids don't work out,

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Speaker 5: that's fine. I'm still I'm gonna catch it. And if

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Speaker 3: Fine, you know.

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Speaker 5: But the guys that shine at the Combine, you kind

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Speaker 5: of kind of see them in a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a different light because now it's televised. Now there's crowd,

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Speaker 5: now there's pressure, now there's those are the guys you're like,

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Speaker 5: oh wow, big stage, that guy, Yeah yeah, that guy,

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Speaker 5: you know, And I trust me, I just want everybody

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Speaker 5: at the Combine to do medical. That's why I got

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Speaker 5: upset with the Caleb Williams thing. I just you know,

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Speaker 3: I need that medical man.

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Speaker 6: Isn't he Isn't he only doing it to the teams

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Speaker 6: that are really interesting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, team that wants to

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Speaker 5: move up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's the problem I have. That's the problem.

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Speaker 5: Like if I'm sitting there and I'm the Giants and

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Speaker 5: I'm looking to move up for a quarterback and I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna get all the way to one, and he's thinking, oh,

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Speaker 5: you're picking six, I'm not going to see you, And

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking, wait a minute, now, i might trade this

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Speaker 5: don't mind him not working out. I just need your

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Speaker 5: medical man. I just need because we've we've done this before,

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Speaker 5: we said it before. We've we've found heart conditions, we

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Speaker 3: Foots, you know, feet, you know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's what we've that's what we've done

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Speaker 5: at the combine. And I need to know these things

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Speaker 5: because my job's on the line here if I you know,

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Speaker 5: if I but the problem with Caleb Wibbs now on

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Speaker 5: his thirty visit, majority of that time is going to

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Speaker 5: be spent him getting a physical and I and I

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Speaker 5: said it today. It's not turning cough, you know, turn

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Speaker 5: your head and cough. It's a pretty extensive physical that

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Speaker 5: he is going.

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Speaker 3: To have to go through.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, that's that's the He could have knocked

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Speaker 5: that all out and we didn't. But you know what,

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Speaker 5: we'll do what we have to do to get these

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Speaker 2: Well, you think about the list of what players just

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Speaker 2: have to go through at the combine too.

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Speaker 5: You look at it all the way through.

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Speaker 3: It's a proda.

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Speaker 3: The combine was designed not to be easy. Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: If you look if yeah, if you look at it,

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Speaker 3: That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bryan, speaking of guys that you like, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Would you rather have this guy or that guy?

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Speaker 3: Okay, and we'll go around.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you two names, and they're they're within

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Speaker 5: Javon Baker or Jalen McMillan. Javon Baker from Central Florida,

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Speaker 2: I love both guys, but I've got j Mac higher

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Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan and I just see like this dude's got it.

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Speaker 2: He smooth, cerebral, the way he moves, Chris route runner,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a dude. If he didn't play at Washington,

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Speaker 2: Javon Baker is an outstanding player as well. His ability

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Speaker 5: I kind of looked at him.

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Speaker 2: But I think Jalen McMillan can do more than Javon Baker.

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Speaker 2: I've got a second round grade on j Mack. I

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love him. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 5: Baker. I've gotten the third So give me j Mack.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you look at the production that Jalen McMillan had

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Speaker 8: those seasons. The thing that separates Jalen McMillan for me

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Speaker 8: I think these guys are very similar in what they

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Speaker 4: Just based off of the fact that he's seen more

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Speaker 6: Interesting when I look at Jalen McMillan, I noticed his

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Speaker 6: I mean Jesus that Pennix really trusted McMillian says something.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he was asked to do a lot more that

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Speaker 7: The next level.

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Speaker 8: He missed a few games just kind of in and out.

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Speaker 2: He could be that wide receiver one B Pennix. Penix's

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Speaker 8: If you don't trust Jalen McMillan, viewers, I mean feel

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Speaker 8: free you have your own opinion. Go watch it, Go

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Speaker 2: The only reason I would go mc millan over Javon

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Speaker 4: And then he comes up and he runs the four

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Speaker 3: Baker, Baker, Baker.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 5: You know what I look at Baker, I look at

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Speaker 3: I see, that's what he looks like to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that's if Jay.

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Speaker 5: He reminded me of the way Jalen Tolbert played a

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Speaker 3: He's a strong handed guy.

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Speaker 5: I mean the production was there with Baker.

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Speaker 8: and yeah, one of those guys this week has been

439
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 8: Ricky Pearsall, and man, he's so much fun. He covered

440
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,200
Speaker 8: he can be a threat from sideline to sideline, in

441
00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 8: between the hashes on the boundary, line him up anywhere.

442
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,920
Speaker 8: He can make things happen. But the same could be

443
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Speaker 8: said for Roman Wilson. And I think when I was

444
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,959
Speaker 8: able to compare those two guys side by side at

445
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 8: the Senior Bowl, Roman Wilson was who stood out to

446
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,560
Speaker 8: me more at that point from a change of direction,

447
00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,199
Speaker 8: from a fluid movement ability, being able to separate at

448
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,400
Speaker 8: the top of his routes. But when you look at Pearsall,

449
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,560
Speaker 8: there's a little bit more body control. Whenever the ball's

450
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 8: in the air, there's a little bit more a fight

451
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 8: and a little bit more aggression of physicality. He's bigger

452
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 8: and that's a byproduct of that.

453
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Speaker 5: I thought Roman Wilson was a guy, and then they

454
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,200
Speaker 5: measured him and he wasn't say.

455
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got these thys. He's not tiny,

456
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 8: he's got these thyes that are like a nack yea

457
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 8: yeah yeah.

458
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,920
Speaker 5: But for me, Oatmeal guy.

459
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,120
Speaker 8: For me, it's really close. But I give the edge

460
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 8: to Wilson just because of that separation ability. I'm always

461
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 8: going to take separation over physicality for me. That's that's

462
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 8: at the receiver position. That's what I would rather have.

463
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,479
Speaker 8: You look at some of the top receivers that are

464
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 8: in the league right now, and who is consistent Tyreek

465
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 8: Hills separation guy, and he's consistent. You look at a

466
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 8: guy like DK Metcalf, physicality guy, probably not as consistent.

467
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 8: And I see a lot more consistency in the NFL

468
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,439
Speaker 8: right now with separation guys rather than physicality guys. As

469
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 8: a result, I'll give the edge to Roman Wilson. But

470
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 8: I think I think Pearcell is being undervalued. I think

471
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 8: he is in this draft.

472
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Speaker 5: Rely, Bully, what do you got man? This was a

473
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 5: tough one for me.

474
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Speaker 2: Uh So, we actually talked about this a couple weeks ago,

475
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Speaker 2: and I went lad McConkie over Roman Wilson. I'm gonna

476
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 2: go Roman Wilson here slightly over Ricky Pearsall, And the

477
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 2: reason is it's the blocking. And I usually just brought

478
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: that up second ago. Roman Wilson is an outstanding blocker,

479
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 2: and to me, that sets him a part in this. Now,

480
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 2: both of these guys can get open. You see the separation.

481
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: I think Pearsall might have some of the better deep speed.

482
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 2: He has one of the best catches I think you'll

483
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 2: ever see. I think it was against Charlotte. He goes

484
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,239
Speaker 2: up there one hand and he just plucks this thing

485
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 2: out of the sky.

486
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

487
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: I think both are pretty solid route runners. But Roman

488
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: Wilson's a track and field guy. But the blocking, to me,

489
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 2: his returnability, he's physical. I think he's got a little

490
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: bit more physicality in his game. Adjust well. I saw

491
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: some third down production from Roman Wilson.

492
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Speaker 11: I like.

493
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Speaker 2: I think both of these guys are good players, like

494
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: the way that Pearsall can adjust the tracks the ball

495
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: in the air. Both have really good, strong natural hands.

496
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go Wilson just a smidgeon ahead of

497
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 2: Ricky Piersoll here.

498
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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up because whenever it comes

499
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 4: to Roman Wilson. He is the smaller prospect, but he's

500
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 4: the more physical of the two, which is really interesting

501
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 4: to me. They're both very good in the finesse game.

502
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 4: But whenever I look at Roman Wilson, I see Marvin

503
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 4: Mims from last year. That's what I see as a

504
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 4: player who.

505
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 2: Has some physicality to him, a little bit of beef.

506
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 5: He's not a big but he's wide and he can

507
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 5: go make the contested catch.

508
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 4: Whereas Ricky Pearsall, I'm not saying they compare on the

509
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 4: same talent level, but he's Jackson Smith and jigbu Well.

510
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: I think Wilson a couple of guys that are finess

511
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: like the catch radious might be a little bit better

512
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: for Wilson. It is Pearsol yeah, and Pearsall has better

513
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: body control, yeah, and better ability to go up against

514
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: the defender. Sure, it's it's apples and origins, it's it's

515
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: flavors of ice cream. But for me, I think I

516
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 2: would take Roman Wilson with an edge up.

517
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: I put a mid.

518
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: Second on Roman Wilson and Pearsaw is like a late second,

519
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: so they're right there with me.

520
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 7: Interesting, what do you got?

521
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Speaker 3: I issue?

522
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 8: It's like apples and green apples.

523
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 3: Apples and green apples. It's true, it's not oranges.

524
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: Shore Yeah, no, no, you're good.

525
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 8: I got off the track.

526
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 6: That's okay. No, interesting, because I really felt like that

527
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 6: Roman Wilson because of the physicality aspect of it. I

528
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 6: felt like he could get jammed at the line sometimes.

529
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 6: I felt like he couldn't get off a press consistently

530
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 6: as consistently as what I felt like Ricky did, so

531
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 6: to me that that might be the only thing, and

532
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 6: also to the return ability does make Roman will send

533
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 6: a little bit more appealing from that aspect. I don't

534
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 6: know if Ricky, if that's something that Ricky did, Nick,

535
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 6: is that something that he's done before.

536
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 8: I couldn't speak to that.

537
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 6: Well, Taters, well, I have the speed.

538
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 5: I feel like maybe Pearsall was an.

539
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 6: Okay, that's good to know. But as far as the

540
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 6: like I said, it's just interesting to me because we

541
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 6: did talk about the route running and I personally think

542
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 6: that Ricky is one of the best route runners in

543
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 6: this draft as just a pure feel understanding how to

544
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 6: get guys to open up their hips things like that.

545
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 6: But I did feel like Roman at times if he

546
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 6: didn't win the first step and if he didn't win

547
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 6: the physical, like the physical part of the bump and run,

548
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 6: could you know, be taken off his spot a bit.

549
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 6: And with Ricky, I just think he's just a little

550
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 6: bit more elusive and just a little bit more fluid.

551
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 6: You mentioned the body control. I think that there's a

552
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 6: little bit more there. So for me, I think I

553
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 6: might go Ricky.

554
00:22:52,640 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 5: I didn't even talk to him about that, so that

555
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 5: everything everything she said, I was just kind of sitting

556
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 5: there nodding to myself. You think Ricky gets off the

557
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 5: line better too? Is that the big thing for you?

558
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 7: Man?

559
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: I tell you what, this guy he's got quickness. I

560
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: think he's got speed. I think he makes really sharp cuts.

561
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 5: I think he gets the defender off balance. I think

562
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 5: he'll I think he the circus catches. We talked about,

563
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 5: there's few receivers in this draft that he did have

564
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 5: the skill that this guy has catching the football. They're

565
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 5: both these fun players to watch, yeah, because when you

566
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 5: get him the ball, generally good things happen. And you

567
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 5: can watch Roman Wilson watch the Alabama game and watch

568
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 5: how he wins that game for Michigan. Watch how he

569
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 5: takes himself he absolutely did so.

570
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 3: But do you two are wrong? Over there?

571
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: For guy, they're both play I mean all four of

572
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: the receivers were talked about.

573
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 5: I like them all. How are we doing a break?

574
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: We're good. Let's go one more and then we'll Okay, Okay,

575
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 3: start with you on this one.

576
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 5: How about this one, Let's do it? Okay, Ray running

577
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 5: back Kentucky Blake Koram Michigan running back.

578
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: See it's funny because all of these top to bottom.

579
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: I think this is the easiest one out of all

580
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: of them. We're taking Blake Coorum from Michigan every day

581
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 4: of the week.

582
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: And here's why. Ray Davis is a good runner, runs

583
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: through arm tackles. He's a reliable target in the passing game.

584
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: You're going to have him.

585
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 3: Hold on to the football.

586
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: He had just one fumble in his twenty twenty three season.

587
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 5: I like the way he runs the rock.

588
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 4: He is a reliable ball carrier, but he's not a

589
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: playmaker like Blake Koram. Korum is slippery. Whenever he gets

590
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: to the second level. He gets to the second level

591
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 4: with ease.

592
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: He's got great vision, his inateability and balance, his low

593
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: center of gravity at five foot eleven the way he

594
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: can spin out of tackles and then still have that

595
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: power running ability that Ray Davis.

596
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 4: Has because he can go right through some arm tackles

597
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 4: just like Davis can. And he was the playmaker on

598
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 4: that Michigan team, especially when they needed it. You talked

599
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: about the Alabama game. He had the best run of

600
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: the year against that Alabama defense, barreling through multiple levels

601
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: of defenders and then finding the end zone, getting to

602
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: the pylon inside the Rose Bowl to send them to

603
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: the National Championship game. I think he is the number

604
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: maybe two three running back in the class, and I

605
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 4: have Ray Davis more like talk that talk at seven

606
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: down there.

607
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: I really like Ray Davis. He's a reliable, reliable ball

608
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: carrier and he's going to be a great number two.

609
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: Blake Koram is going to be a number one in

610
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: an NFL offense.

611
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm with you, ditto completely. I've compared. I've compared

612
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 8: to Blake korum On here to Kien Williams, and I

613
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 8: think there's a very similar skill set there as far

614
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 8: as what he could do as being even though he's

615
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 8: five foot eight, being a downhill runner and he's got

616
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 8: ability between the tackles. Does Ray Davis bring those same

617
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 8: type of abilities? Absolutely? Is He probably just as physical. Absolutely.

618
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 8: We talk about the playmaking element and being able to

619
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 8: be consistent in those short yard situations, the receiving element.

620
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 8: I say quorum here. It's not by much though. Ray

621
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 8: Davis is flying up my board. He is, but I'm

622
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 8: taking Korum.

623
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: Go for it, Willie. Ray Davis.

624
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 5: Really, Ray Davis is one of my pet cats. I

625
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 5: love the kid.

626
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: If you watch Ray Davis, hean's Florida. It's one of

627
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: the most dominant games that you will see from a

628
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: running back. He just destroyed the Florida Gators. And it's

629
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: it's not only on the ground, it's in the passing

630
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: game as well. And this dude will go down the

631
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: field and run some routes as a wide receiver. Blake

632
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: Korum is maxed out. The player that you are getting, No,

633
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: he is the player who are getting. Blake Korum is

634
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: smaller than Ray Davis. They're both good that they both

635
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: have the production and ray Davis actually more carries than

636
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: Blake Korum and that's enough for me. I think Ray

637
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: Davis is going to be a better pro. I see

638
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: more upside. I think pass protection is going to be

639
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: a little bit better with Ray Davis. I think he's

640
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: got more receipient upside than Blake Korum does. I think

641
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: both as runners are very comparable when it comes to

642
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: their short area quickness, their physicality. They play behind their pads,

643
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: they can break tackles, they can row through, run through

644
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: a mofo's face. I love Blake Koram. Don't get me wrong.

645
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to knock this dog, but I got

646
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: to show some love to Ray Davis. Him and Jalen

647
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: Wright are my two pet running back cats. I will

648
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: stand on the table for you, Ray, Ray, I got.

649
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 5: You, bro.

650
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 6: What do you think about.

651
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: Speed between Ray Davis Ray Davis? I think it's better

652
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: long speed than Blake Orn.

653
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: But I think I think so too.

654
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 6: That's the difference to me, yeah, is that I think

655
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 6: the long speed is just a little bit more. There

656
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 6: are a lot of they're a lot of the same

657
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 6: guy dog Like. I'm watching them and I'm looking and

658
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Speaker 6: I'm like I said, holy receiving quality, because that's right.

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Speaker 6: But I feel like Blake is the same way is

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Speaker 6: that he can wrap you up, he can get open,

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Speaker 6: he can do things like that. He's not afraid the

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Speaker 6: lowest shoulder. That was my knock on Blake to start.

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Speaker 6: Until we talk to some guys at the Shrine Bowl,

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Speaker 6: I didn't know, like this is a physical dude, like

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Speaker 6: people players have said, when he hits you or contact

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Speaker 6: Corn Blake Korm, you can feel him and even with

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Speaker 6: his frame, maybe you don't think that, but I was corrected.

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Speaker 6: You know, you got me in check. So I'm on

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Speaker 6: the fence.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching all twenty two of him against Florida. In

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Speaker 4: this game, you said he took over and he just

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Speaker 4: dropped the pass in the end, he dropped.

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Speaker 5: Touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Watch the full game.

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Speaker 6: Seriously.

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Speaker 5: I think one of them is a fire hydrant and

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Speaker 5: the other is one of those old steel mailboxes, you know,

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Speaker 5: like the big mailbox, Davis. They're they're both. I got

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Speaker 5: this because they're both the same height. Basically, they're both

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Speaker 5: the same I'll tell you what though. The thing that

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Speaker 5: that just it's the speed, it's the finish, it's the

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Speaker 5: you see Korm get caught and that kind of like

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking, dude, you're five eight, you gotta go, And

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Speaker 5: so I feel like he's gonna have to split time

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Speaker 5: that's the difference to me, I do I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like, but I tell you that's why I brought him.

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Speaker 2: So you think Korm has to split fun.

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Speaker 3: I think Kor is gonna have to split time.

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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be for his best interest to

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Speaker 6: split time the way Michigan ran the ball with When

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Speaker 6: you look at Ray Davis, you can say he had

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Speaker 6: as many just as many kids.

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Speaker 3: Three schools.

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Speaker 6: Are they going power? Yeah, like Michigan goes.

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Speaker 3: Power Michigan when he's the Chargers. You know both.

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Speaker 2: question which positions of need are you comfortable going into

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Speaker 2: the season young at via the draft? Not addressing it

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Speaker 2: at all during free agency, but where do you feel

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Speaker 2: like which ones they're going to go young at, which

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Speaker 2: ones they go old at? Whenever they go into the season,

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Speaker 2: Brian kind.

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Speaker 5: Of feel like that, you know, they're either going to

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Speaker 5: play with a new center or play with a new

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Speaker 5: left tackle, So those might be, you know, positions even

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Speaker 5: if they don't draft a tackle, and maybe they like

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Speaker 5: awesome Richards, maybe that's the start that they want to

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Speaker 5: go with. That's still a young guy right there. So Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm comfortable, Yeah, comfortable when they plug and play guys

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Speaker 5: these offensive line and we say it a bunch, they

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Speaker 5: have a really good history with this. So I'm totally

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Speaker 5: okay with the center, and I'll be totally okay with

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Speaker 5: a left tackle whoever they draft.

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Speaker 2: Do you ask the question again, where do you feel

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Speaker 2: like this team going into free agency?

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Speaker 3: We think horse Ducks go young or go old.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about right for this question, where do you

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Speaker 2: feel like they would go old at or go young

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Speaker 2: at whenever they go into the season.

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Speaker 6: I think you got to get younger at d N.

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Speaker 6: And not that the guys d N aren't young. I

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Speaker 6: just think you've seen what they are most of the

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Speaker 6: depth pieces, Fowler, Drin's Armstrong, Like these guys, I think

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Speaker 6: that we have a good grasp of like who who

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Speaker 6: they are as players. So I do think that maybe

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Speaker 6: going into the draft you might want to get younger there. Probably.

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Speaker 6: I mean Tank has had his best season this past year,

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Speaker 6: but I think he's had in a long time. But

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Speaker 6: he is getting older.

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Speaker 5: They might have to go young at defensive tackle if

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Speaker 5: you think about with Masie and then also too, the

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Speaker 5: one that I'm kind of still waiting on and maybe.

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Speaker 3: I'm running out of waiting on is Golston.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, yeah, move him to d N.

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Speaker 8: Please him.

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for him.

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Speaker 5: I feel bad for him because I feel like he's

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Speaker 5: a good player that's they're trying to kind of figure

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Speaker 5: out where he needs to play.

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Speaker 3: And it's probably screwing him up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating because you've seen good flashes from Shauncey Golston,

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Speaker 2: like he definitely has potential to be a good player.

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Speaker 2: I think just to be different on this, because I

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Speaker 2: agree with you on tackle and center, I'll go running back.

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Speaker 2: I think that that that running back room is going

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Speaker 2: to be very very young, and I think that that's

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Speaker 2: a room that that's okay. I think you've seen that

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Speaker 2: be successful in the NFL, where these kids can come

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Speaker 2: in and be productive immediately.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I running back was my answer. Also linebacker as well.

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Speaker 7: Yea.

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Speaker 8: Honestly, I feel like every position of needs that you

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Speaker 8: look at every position, it's going to be young.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's going to be I think the changing in

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Speaker 2: the last seven days of the quote unquote all in

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Speaker 2: approach perspective, it's completely shifted.

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Speaker 4: I think it's completely shifted to back what it has

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Speaker 4: been recently. They're gonna draft, they're gonna draft, have you,

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Speaker 4: They're gonna draft a lot of prospects.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be the all in approach with That's

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Speaker 2: just kind of the feeling I get with.

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Speaker 6: The running back conversation. Obviously, you know there's some talks

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Speaker 6: that maybe Tony Pollard could come back. I know that

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Speaker 6: people say that running backs the easiest transition for these

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Speaker 6: college players and stuff. But this past season, this is

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Speaker 6: a new offense, you know, and Tony has just gotten

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Speaker 6: introduced to it. They even changed a lot of their

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Speaker 6: pass pro sets for the running backs. Is that something?

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is a passing lead, you know. I

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Speaker 6: do understand that going young is it. Guys can't adapt

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Speaker 6: in things like that. But when you talk about a

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Speaker 6: new scheme being implemented the year before, does that change

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Speaker 6: anything or matter? I guess I'm asking, like, Tony being

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Speaker 6: here is gonna possibly be in here? Could be beneficial

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Speaker 6: for a young player or do you think you should

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Speaker 6: just go completely young and it'll be okay?

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. I mean, I think it could

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Speaker 3: be beneficial.

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Speaker 2: I think that we've talked about that a lot on

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Speaker 2: our show, Brian, where having a veteran in that room

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Speaker 2: still makes a lot of sense. Specifically the improvements that

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard's made as a pass protector. I think that's

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Speaker 2: one thing though, when we've been looking at these running backs,

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Speaker 2: like whether it's Trey Benson from Florida, state. I mentioned

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Speaker 2: Ray Davis from Kentucky, Jalen Right from Tennessee. That's one

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Speaker 2: thing where I am I'm elevating some of these guys

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Speaker 2: to thinking they can be three down players because of

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Speaker 2: how they are in past protection. Because if you do

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Speaker 2: end up having to be that role where this rookie

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Speaker 2: comes in, maybe you're not able to afford to Tony

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Speaker 2: Pollard or some of these bigger named veterans in free

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Speaker 2: agency and bring him back.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to rely on that guy. Can't he

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Speaker 3: come in day one and be a three down player?

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Speaker 3: And I think those running backs can be. I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we're ever going to see a group

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Speaker 5: of running backs and free agency as good as this one.

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Speaker 3: The group and the thing about it is my.

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Speaker 5: Fear, and this is I think it covers what I

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Speaker 5: issue was saying coaches will always bring back what they

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Speaker 5: feel comfortable with, and they don't maybe they don't want

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Speaker 5: maybe they want a young guy to learn behind Pollard

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Speaker 5: and stuff like that. We've learned that we have that

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Speaker 5: Pollard needs somebody to carry the load with him on that.

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Speaker 5: I wish that they would go out and sign a

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Speaker 5: veteran guy. Other than Tony Pollard. Interesting and I wish

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Speaker 5: they would draft a guy. And but to your point,

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Speaker 5: coaches will do things that they're familiar with. You know,

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Speaker 5: this coach is potentially in his last year. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's going to go with players that he feels like

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Speaker 5: can help him potentially keep his job. And Pollard makes

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Speaker 5: a lot of sense because of front office familiarity, and

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Speaker 5: then also to the fact that he's come out and

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Speaker 5: said he's willing to take less money.

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Speaker 3: That's that's music to Stephen Jones's.

875
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Speaker 2: Ears, music to the salary cap Here is there if

876
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: you bring back Tony Pollard and you bring in a

877
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: talented draft pick.

878
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 6: Sure, I'll talk about from a free agent standpoint, you guys,

879
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 6: I guess I know we can't go super deep into it,

880
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 6: but are there there's maybe a free agent running back

881
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 6: outside of Tony poll that you think is an upgrade?

882
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 7: Oh?

883
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, there would be. I think there's absolutely some upgrades.

884
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: I mean, person, we talked about this, yes show on

885
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 5: the break, So Derek, we you know we were talking

886
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: about Yeah, we're talking about names.

887
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: I know what you're doing. I did the same thing.

888
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, just in case we can't mention it because we

889
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: can be freely on the fan.

890
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: We cannot be here.

891
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: Jacobs from the Raiders, I would absolutely love that type

892
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 5: of guy. Guy could catch it, guy that could block,

893
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: guy that could run.

894
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: It's tough off guy. It's sixteen hundred yards.

895
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I think perfect.

896
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: I think we all love the Josh Jacobs. I just

897
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: don't know realistic. I know, that's what I'm saying. That's

898
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

899
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 5: I would love this team to sit there and say,

900
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: you know what if I guess if they're going to

901
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 5: spend money, go spend it on a linebacker, you know,

902
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 5: and then but is.

903
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: That the position I think we'd all want, Like if

904
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: if you had to sacrifice as a linebacker, I would.

905
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 6: Rather Yeah, I would rather them spend the money, bring

906
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 6: back Tony and then bring back and then draft a guide.

907
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 6: Then to not address linebacker in free agency, I find.

908
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like with the running back, every

909
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 4: time I hear the term spend money, I just don't

910
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 4: think they're going to spend money.

911
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 6: How can they not feel the urgency to spend money.

912
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't right now, they don't listen, they just haven't

913
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: made those movies. Yeah, they've They've opened it up yet

914
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: it's not going to be.

915
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: I just don't know right now.

916
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 6: I hope so this next week it's going to be important.

917
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: Maybe it's going to be.

918
00:38:59,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: The next question.

919
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: You can there next question. All right, this is from

920
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: Berner Cowboys Berner twenty two. So you know it's gonna

921
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: be a fun one. Please which scenario would you feel

922
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: more comfortable with going into this first round drafting Memes,

923
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 4: Geiton or Morgan So one of those left tackles to

924
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: be your starting left tackle replacement, Yes, while TJ. Bass

925
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: and brock Hoffman compete for the starting center position. That's

926
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: that's option one. The second option is drafting Graham Barton

927
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: to be the starting center out of Duke while Tyler

928
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: moves to left tackle and TJ. Bass starts at left guard.

929
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 8: Give me option one. There's too much moving in that

930
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 8: second option. I think they could figure it out with TJ.

931
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 8: Bass or brock Hoffman at center. But if you have

932
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 8: a guy like Marius Mems at left tackle, that's going

933
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 8: to solve a lot of problems for you. And they're

934
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 8: an option two. You're moving around a lot of guys.

935
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 8: That's a couple of different starters that you're gonna have

936
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 8: to throw in at different positions. Give me option one.

937
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: There ten times if the center was the Oregon one.

938
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: Yes, Sam Jackson powers Johnson.

939
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so.

940
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 6: Do you not feel that strongly he won a center.

941
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 8: Option and moving Tyler at the left tackle. That's that's

942
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 8: where it gets difficult for me.

943
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 5: And I understand and they're probably not going to do it.

944
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: But to me, I I'm dying at center.

945
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm dying. I'm watching all these teams. I usually told

946
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: the other day, look at all the teams in the

947
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: final four.

948
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 5: What they all do.

949
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: It's fat ass centers run the football.

950
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: It's fat. Yeah. Yeah, you need to be able to

951
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 5: you know, all your tackles, all those tackles you mentioned, Yes, yes,

952
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: bring them, bring them, bring them now. I mean it's

953
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: just fun.

954
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: Because I locked this up in our text, I was like, Okay,

955
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: is it easier to take your center in the first

956
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: round and then you can circle back and get your tackle,

957
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: or is it easier to take your tackle and then

958
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 2: you can circle back and get your center. I'd argue,

959
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: I think center stretch is better than the tackle.

960
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 6: I agree in particular, yes.

961
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: Say the center stretch better than I think because I

962
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: don't know I don't. I'm not as high on some

963
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: of these other tackles that are going to and he's

964
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: higher on some of these centers. I like Bowlimmer. I

965
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: think I could buy in on a Cedric Van Pryan

966
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: right some of these other centers.

967
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: I think Zach Frazier could stretch to the second around

968
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: Zack Frazier Westerginia.

969
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 3: Because of the injury with the leg. Maybe Paswap Minnesota.

970
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: I can, yeah, we can do.

971
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 2: I think you're better off at twenty four taking your tackle,

972
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: whether it's mems, your guiding whoever they want to take there,

973
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: and then you circle back at fifty six, or if

974
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: you want to move up to your point if you

975
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: get a pick swap, I think you can address center,

976
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: maybe even in the third round if you wanted to.

977
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 6: I agree, And I also think that there's some offensive

978
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 6: linemen that are guards that maybe you can move to center.

979
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 6: There are a few that are later down. I think

980
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 6: the guards are a little bit more rich, and those

981
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 6: middle rounds, there's some guys that we even have the

982
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 6: pleasure to see at the Shrine Bowl. Then maybe, But

983
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 6: as far as the question goes, I'm gonna go with

984
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 6: the first off option. Because even though I think TJ.

985
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 6: Bass is capable of being a starter, I the depth

986
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 6: on your offensive line is valuable. Like we've seen it.

987
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 6: We've seen it too much in this league in the

988
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 6: past couple of years. How many injuries have been taking

989
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: place and things like that. And I'm like, if you

990
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 6: have an adequate backup center, if you have an adequate

991
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 6: backup guard, yo, don't I understand that they you want

992
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 6: to push them to a starter that can maybe be

993
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 6: an eventual thing. But sense having that depth is so

994
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 6: valuable and knowing for a fact that when he comes

995
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 6: in there, you're not about to have to change your

996
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 6: game plan. You don't have to change around everything for him.

997
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 6: I just it's invaluable. And as far as Tyler Smith goes, respectfully, cut.

998
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 5: This out, bro, Like, let this kid him where he's

999
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: going to be.

1000
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 6: I think that his versatility is valuable and it's something

1001
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 6: that we love. But at some point in time, we

1002
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 6: got to ask ourselves if we are hurting this kid's

1003
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 6: development just swipping him back and forth like he a pink.

1004
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: But they don't move him back and forth.

1005
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 6: They don't. But it's always a conversation and that, but it.

1006
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: Won't be anymore.

1007
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: If you move him back to left tackle, that's the

1008
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: end of that conversation for the rest of his career.

1009
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 8: That the conversation wins.

1010
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: But the cons that's okay, that's what you drafted him

1011
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 5: to be.

1012
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: You drafted him to play guard for a couple of

1013
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: years and then swing out the tackle when tis That's

1014
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: what they told us.

1015
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: That was what they also told us that all in too,

1016
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 5: they are so told.

1017
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but coach Slari came in here during the

1018
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: draft last year in this room instead, I always looking

1019
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: at Tyler as a tackle and they played guard all

1020
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: year and they didn't want to move them.

1021
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 6: I know it's by necessity and things like that. I

1022
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 6: just think this is his third year, let's find him

1023
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 6: a home.

1024
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 3: Okay, you're not going to breathe.

1025
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 8: I think to all valuable points. A little bit of

1026
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 8: that plays into me choosing Option one here as well.

1027
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 8: A big thing is I trust. I have a lot

1028
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 8: of trust in TJ. Bass and broke Off. I do

1029
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 8: think those guys too. I think those guys can be

1030
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 8: started hanging out with.

1031
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: Scouts again, having too.

1032
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 10: But that.

1033
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Fixes Tyler and then TJ. Batch, and then you drafted

1034
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: your hangout starter.

1035
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 6: I think, I agree, get starter crap, Zach mar is

1036
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 6: getting long and so yo having him be able to

1037
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 6: come in this season, and none of us was like

1038
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 6: Jesus Christ, I think putting TJ. Bess out there, like

1039
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 6: none of us felt like that. It's invaluable. It's invaluable.

1040
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 6: And there are teams that are kicking themselves because they

1041
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 6: let this kid go undrafted.

1042
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: Said, I think he can be a starter.

1043
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 6: I do, but I just don't know if I want

1044
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 6: him to do it right away because that depth is

1045
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 6: showing is it's shown its value towards the end of

1046
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 6: the season for the last couple of years.

1047
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: I'm just that's just me kind of along the same

1048
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 5: real quick, Can I talk you out, Bruce real quick?

1049
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: Yes or no?

1050
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: If if you take your tackle and the centers there

1051
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 5: in the second round, but one of those top linebackers

1052
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 5: from the second round.

1053
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 6: If you go out in free agency, it won't matter.

1054
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're not. We're not playing free agency.

1055
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: Just we're drafting. Now we're drafted.

1056
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm taking the linebacker.

1057
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: I'm taking the line, I'm taking the center offensive lines.

1058
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 6: I think you take the linebacker because the linebackers are

1059
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 6: better at the top.

1060
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: To me, they are and Wilson, they would be the

1061
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: best player on the board at that point, is what

1062
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: you're saying.

1063
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I'm taking the center.

1064
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 6: I think you can find this and again I would

1065
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 6: have to take the linebacker. I'm taking the linebacker. I

1066
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 6: think you can find a center later, or you can

1067
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 6: find a guard that's serviceable that you can convert to

1068
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 6: a center.

1069
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: I definitely do, don't disagree, but if I got the

1070
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: center graded higher line of strimmage to me is always

1071
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: to be the factor.

1072
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 5: And I love Cedric grag which Carolina.

1073
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's that's different though that's the higher graded player.

1074
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: I think it's more likely that Edrian Cooper or Junior

1075
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: Colston are going to be higher graded than the centers

1076
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: that are on the board whenever they get to that pick.

1077
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 8: Do you love Cedric Gray on the Cowboys? I feel

1078
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 8: like it'd be a really bad fit here. You think so,

1079
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 8: I think so. I think I think the problems that

1080
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 8: you have in that linebacking core he just adds to that.

1081
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 5: Really. Yeah, you think he could be like Eric Kendrick

1082
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 5: nix on to something could be I think it will.

1083
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 5: I know you need to Mike.

1084
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: But I like Cedric grad I just think he's a

1085
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: good player.

1086
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 8: I think he's going to be a great player, and

1087
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 8: the right system.

1088
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: He can fit.

1089
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 6: With Zim, I think he can fit.

1090
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: He went to the Buccaneers.

1091
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 8: It's not even, it's not even with Zim about the

1092
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 8: personnel that they have in that line back room, what

1093
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 8: they need. I don't feel like Gray fits that. That

1094
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 8: would be a waste of a linebacker pick.

1095
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 5: Carolina, we're talking about right, Yeah, I think, yeah, give

1096
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: me a good player. I'll find him.

1097
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: I understand, and I think that you can make your trust.

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00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 5: I do.

1099
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: I just believe in the kid.

1100
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 5: Nick is over here just digging a grave, he said.

1101
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 3: He said it would be a waste of a pick

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00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: if his name gets called.

1103
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 4: Just remember this episode because you're gonna.

1104
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: Get tagged in it.

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00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 3: Forteen.

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00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 5: I don't think they're.

1107
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: Gonna be funny.

1108
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 5: Is and then we have to go around the room

1109
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 5: and talk about what we think about the player.

1110
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: You get to just hick, what do you got?

1111
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: Well, this is what was on the board.

1112
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 9: There you go.

1113
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 5: Now, that would be a bad I got.

1114
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 6: Don't even speak that and say.

1115
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 5: No, no, I'm gonna lose my motion all right, really

1116
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: really really really quickly.

1117
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: Ye, Brandon says, coming out of college, where would Tyler

1118
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: Smith rank as a prospect compared to the rest of

1119
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: this tackle class this year?

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00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: So based off of.

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00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: Where you had him when he was picked, where would

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00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: he fall out of that twenty two class compared to

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00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: this twenty four class.

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Speaker 3: Brian, Well, I'll tell you what.

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00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 5: I I didn't have him right because I had third

1126
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: round grade on him. So I have nine guys ahead

1127
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: of him right now. If you look at my board,

1128
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 5: if you'd say, but if you want to just if

1129
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: you want to play h you know, kind sight twenty twenty,

1130
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 5: play alt fuck, I'd probably take I'd probably take four

1131
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 5: guys ahead of him, though, is what I would do.

1132
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 3: The fifth guy he would be ahead of Latham.

1133
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: For me, is where he would be as a tackle,

1134
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 5: as a guard tackle.

1135
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, tackle, that's where we watched him, right, yep, Yeah,

1136
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: that's where he was listed.

1137
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 8: As I was not covering the draft at this point,

1138
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 8: and I'm not going to b s you guys, so

1139
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna let chill them. I'm gonna defer to

1140
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 8: you guys on this one.

1141
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 6: I wouldn't come in the draft either.

1142
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: Just answer the question even if we weren't in then

1143
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: if you weren't in the room, seventh, he would be

1144
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: seventh behind forshanu Olt, Latham, log of Mimes, and Guitton.

1145
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: I think I would have had a Morgan. I'd have

1146
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: him kind of in that mix as well, at a

1147
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: different order. I'm just about I didn't think that Tyler

1148
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: Smith was going to beat what Tyler Smith is.

1149
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 6: I agree on, That's all I mean, don't get me wrong.

1150
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 6: The night that they drafted him, I had a tantrum.

1151
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 6: But when I like actually went back and looked at

1152
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 6: him and I was like, oh, this guy, if he

1153
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 6: was a guard, Yeah, I think he would have went.

1154
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: I think he could even win high the Yale tackle

1155
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: and I'm not even gonna try and pronounce his name. Yeah,

1156
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: a lot of Tyler Smith, Like that's the guy if

1157
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: you don't take an offensive tackle at twenty four. I

1158
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: would be totally on board with the Yale offensive tackle

1159
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: as the guy that can be Kingsley. Yeah, can you

1160
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: just say Kingsley s because I don't. I mean, let's

1161
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Speaker 2: be Yu from By. Oh sorry, I'm looking at the

1162
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 2: wrong one. I don't love him, but the Yale kid Kieran, Yeah,

1163
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: Kieran a majority.

1164
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: It's an interesting name.

1165
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: Six, but that dude, the build, the body type reminds

1166
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: me a lot of Tyler Smith.

1167
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 5: All right, let's get to some more.

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Speaker 3: We got one more.

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Speaker 5: Would you rather, Brian, Let's get after it. Yeah. Would

1220
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 5: you guys want an edge, a corner or a guard?

1221
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 8: I think we talked a lot of where are we

1222
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 8: picking this pick? Or is it just in general?

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00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 3: Just in general?

1224
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 8: Edge, corner guard, edge, corner guard.

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00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 3: I'd say edge.

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00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: That's a sneaky need in my opinion, I think corner

1227
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: is too.

1228
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 5: I'm good either either one of the defense.

1229
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 8: Though I agree I'm taking I'm taking corner.

1230
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: Chef's choice.

1231
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 3: What are you cooking? Cooking edge?

1232
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 13: All right?

1233
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: Mohammed Kamara Colorado State or Marshall Neeland Kneeland?

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00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 11: Uh?

1235
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 5: From where Western Michigan, Michigan, Western Western Michigan.

1236
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 6: Right, I have watching him last night?

1237
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 11: Bro?

1238
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 10: You want this?

1239
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: Is I think this? I think Neeland is your guy?

1240
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 5: Right?

1241
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 6: No, not necessarily, I just watched him last night.

1242
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: Okay, do you want to you want to leave us

1243
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: off on?

1244
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 12: Oh?

1245
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 6: Yeah sure?

1246
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 5: Uh Kamar or Neel either or who would you rather? Yeah?

1247
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 8: I think this was easy for This is an easy

1248
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 8: one for me.

1249
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: I mean I'm not I'm not high on Neil.

1250
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 8: I'm he doesn't like him.

1251
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: You know what it is? It's it's it's not that

1252
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't like the player. Dane's top one hundred. I

1253
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: think he's got him way too high. He's small that

1254
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: I just mo. Kamara is a dude that like you

1255
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: see him take over a game, especially against Colorado. Like

1256
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: all you got to do is watch the Colorado game.

1257
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: He's an absolute stud. The production throughout his career is there?

1258
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 5: The hands?

1259
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 3: To me is what really separates these two?

1260
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 9: Well?

1261
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 3: Kamara, Yeah, he plays for violin hands.

1262
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 6: He's a tad. He's a Ta's got the quickness off

1263
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 6: the ball, That's what it is.

1264
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 5: And Niland does have the hand fakes. He can set

1265
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 5: up lineman with his rush.

1266
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: He can get the bull rush, he can push a

1267
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: tackle back into the lap of quarterback plays across the line.

1268
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: They move him around a lot, but he just doesn't

1269
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: always set the edge for me. And maybe it's because

1270
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: of his size. I just there was a lot of

1271
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: hype around Neeland. Maybe my expectations were just too high.

1272
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: I didn't love him. I've got a three on him.

1273
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: I think Kamara is a guy that can maybe sneak

1274
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: into even the second round. The leverage, the base, the strength,

1275
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: I think more. Kamara is an absolute stud. I love

1276
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: that dude.

1277
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I think, obviously because of the size, the

1278
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 6: change of direction is better with Marshaan Kneeland and the UH.

1279
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 6: They both have really high motors, and of course you

1280
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 6: put the of course you put these two together, Brian,

1281
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 6: you play too much. But yeah, I do think the

1282
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 6: change of direction and being able to stop and go

1283
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 6: is a little better with Marshan. But as far as

1284
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 6: the motor goes, they're both looney tunes. Both are and

1285
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 6: the pursuit is just relentless.

1286
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: He's got the kneeling's got the traits. I just he's

1287
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: got to get stronger than me at the next level,

1288
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: and he can.

1289
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 5: He's big though this six three, but he's skinny.

1290
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: Context sixty seven.

1291
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 6: But the hands on, folks, You seeing guy's head snap

1292
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 6: the play.

1293
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I got downs. Do you see

1294
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: a bendy guy you with kneeling?

1295
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 10: No?

1296
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 6: No, he has a little bit. He has a little

1297
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 6: bit though, just enough, but nothing crazy.

1298
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 7: Now, yeah, do you?

1299
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like he's a better run defender

1300
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: than he is a pass rusher.

1301
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: I agree with that completely, and I think that it

1302
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: builds off of his side.

1303
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: Because he'll rush himself out of rush lanes. He'll get

1304
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: caught too upfield.

1305
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 6: For me, well, the rushing, a lot of the pass

1306
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 6: rushing from him is just because he's not quitting.

1307
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 7: On the play.

1308
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 6: That's a true fancy or anything. It's just he plays

1309
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 6: through the wrestle, plays through the whistle. That's why he's

1310
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 6: getting to the quarterback because of the pursuit, not because

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Speaker 6: of the pass.

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00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: Because he'll work back around to the ball. Because of

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00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: initially with his rush, he's going way too wide.

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Speaker 6: I think you're a hater.

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00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to level expectations on him now. I

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00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: think his expectations have gone way too high for me.

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Speaker 7: Do you do you?

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00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 6: Does it remind you of oh do from last year?

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 6: Was his name Tater Tots?

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00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: Donald not?

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00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 6: I don't this went crazy at the combine?

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00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 5: I like defens.

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00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no no. I liked

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00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 6: him earlier. I can remember his name was he blew

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00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 6: the combine out the water. He had like the fastest

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00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 6: time we've seen from a big man in like years,

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00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 6: Tater Tots.

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00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 8: While while y'all are thinking there, I'm gonna go ahead

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 8: and throw my when you when you when. I watched

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00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 8: film on both of these guys, and I love pinning

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00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 8: these guys against each other here because of them both

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00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 8: being a group of five guys playing similar competition. Kamara.

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00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 8: Kamara stands out because of his violence and his pursuit.

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00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 8: Y'all mentioned the pursuit. I think he's he's he's always

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00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 8: running like a chicken with its heads cut off. I

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00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 8: love that about Kamara. When you watch Niland, there's a

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00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 8: little bit more precision. You're not going to see the

1339
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 8: flashy plays, but you're gonna see him doing what needs

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00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 8: to be done to get things done. Then I see

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00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 8: both of these guys during shrine Bol Senior Bowl week,

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00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 8: and Neeland was what stood out to me because of

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00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 8: his size, him being able to get around the edge.

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00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 8: I saw a little bit of that bend at Senior

1345
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 8: Bowl that I had asked about kind of going into it.

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 8: And then when I see both of these guys test

1347
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 8: and what they weigh in at and their height and everything.

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00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 8: I love Muhammed Kamara. And this is tough for me

1349
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 8: to say, but I don't think he has a future

1350
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 8: in the NFL because of being six foot one. And

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00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 8: I wish there was a little bit more to love there.

1352
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 8: Like I wish there was a little bit more length.

1353
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 8: There's not that length, So I just worry he's gonna

1354
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 8: get overpowered at the next level. And I kind of

1355
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 8: came to that conclusion a few days ago. I was like, man,

1356
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 8: that sucks because he's was a really good college player.

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00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 8: For that, I have Neeland a little bit higher just

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00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 8: because of traits. I'm going to buy into the traits

1359
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 8: when it comes to this.

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 6: To your point, I think the length matters a little

1361
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 6: bit in the run game.

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00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: He just likes being wrong. Yeah, that's what it is, projection, projection,

1363
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: and I wrote that down for Marshawn nieland people are gonna.

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00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: Like him for that.

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00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been on an island.

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00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: I want the production and Kamara's got that. You're right,

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00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: Neiland's taller, welcome. I think tomorrow is more filled out

1368
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: with his frame. Neeland's a little bit skinny for me,

1369
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: but the violent hands man, I think Kamar is going

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00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: to be able to win at the next level.

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Speaker 8: I want to throw this out really quick. This is

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00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 8: just a testament to what Western Michigan has done with

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00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 8: their developing over the course of the last few seasons.

1374
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 8: So in a two recruiting class cycle twenty eighteen and

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen, Western Michigan Brandon Fisk they had signed before

1376
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 8: he transferred to Florida State. Jaden Reid who they had

1377
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 8: signed and he transferred to Michigan State, was a second

1378
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 8: round pick last year. Chase Brown who they signed and

1379
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 8: he transferred to Illinois later in his career and he

1380
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 8: was a fifth round pick in twenty twenty three. Linebackers

1381
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 8: Ir Barnes, who was a sixth round pick in twenty

1382
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 8: twenty three, still out of Western Michigan and now they

1383
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 8: have Marshawn Neeland. I mean, this is a really really

1384
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 8: impressive group of guys up there Western Michigan that staff

1385
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 8: do a really good job developing. That's whenever I was

1386
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 8: on the recruiting beat, that was one you kind of

1387
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 8: pay attention to in the Midwest as far as Okay,

1388
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 8: if if Western Michigan is offering this guy really early on,

1389
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 8: then there's something here. There's traits, there's uhe yeah, come.

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 6: Come home.

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 4: Final question before we wrap things up in this one

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 4: specifically for Aisha off of Twitter on the twenty Uh,

1393
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: would you rather fight twenty duck sized horses or one

1394
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 4: horse sized duck?

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00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: This is from Twitter on the twenty Which one would

1396
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: you rather do?

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00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 6: One horse sized duck?

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00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 5: Why?

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00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 9: Is that?

1400
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 6: Because I'm just gonna take guy's legs?

1401
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1402
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 8: What about what about twenty duck sized braiden fisks or

1403
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 8: one braiden fisk sized duck?

1404
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 6: I don't think nobody want to deal with so to

1405
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 6: be thinking he's going to be like a ninja turtle

1406
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 6: or something like that?

1407
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: Is this?

1408
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 3: That's another dude? Braiden fist needs to get more love.

1409
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it.

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00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 5: Talk about sweat.

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00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: Yes, give me fish all.

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00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 6: Day, his little swaggy so he got some swags.

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: On, got some swag. There's fisk, there's Chris Beam, just

1414
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: getting up some b roll as we're wrapping up the show.

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00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: Crazylow mo too.

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: That's some nice looking be roll, Very nicely done, Chris Beam.

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Speaker 2: All right, that does it for us here on the

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Speaker 2: Draft Show. We'll be back on Tuesday. We're less than

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Speaker 2: fifty days away from the NFL Draft. Gets your studying

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Speaker 2: ready to rock.

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Speaker 4: We've got Dallas Day coming up, got some thirty visits

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00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: to talk about, and of course everything's still falling out

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00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 4: from the NFL combine for.

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Speaker 2: Zach Walchuk, Nick Harris, Brian brought us Aisha Morrison Chris

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00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomen saying so long,

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Speaker 2: we will see you next Tuesday on The Draft Show.

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