WEBVTT - #60 - Wheeler Walker Jr. 

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome to episode sixty of the Bobby Cast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to us by a Sleep number and Blue Apron.

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<v Speaker 1>So Wheeler Walker Jr. Is here. Before we started this,

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<v Speaker 1>Before you say anything, I want to say, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not people are gonna hear this and go

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<v Speaker 1>check out your music, and if they do, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them blaming me because it's not music that even

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to. I think it's funny, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to it because I don't occurse in my real life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just a big disclaimer everybody's listening to I

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<v Speaker 1>have no I have no interest in Wheeler Walker Junior's

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<v Speaker 1>dirty music other than I think it's funny to read

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<v Speaker 1>the titles. Now, you can say whatever you want, Alright, cool, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want. I'm gonna keep it clean for this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna lie. It's definitely not the first

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<v Speaker 1>interview I've done with it that starts with a disclaimer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's the That's the bummer for me is

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta sit down for interview and then the interviewer

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<v Speaker 1>spends ten minutes apologizing before I have a chance to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I appreciate you having me on and having

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<v Speaker 1>me on, you know, over to your place and doing this, um,

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<v Speaker 1>because my new the thing with my new record, and

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<v Speaker 1>the first one was kind of just like kicking my

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<v Speaker 1>foot into nationale and see what I could do. And

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<v Speaker 1>this one, I'm truly trying to, you know, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of the conversation, you know in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Bones and well yeah, but I but I want

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to insult the other country acts as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I used to because in my head I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be sitting next to him at the Grammys and

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<v Speaker 1>it gets it gets a laugh when I say it.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I'm here to stay and I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to out sell Sky Luke Combs. His album

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<v Speaker 1>comes out the same day as mine, and I've decided

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<v Speaker 1>he's my enemy because his album comes out the same

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<v Speaker 1>day as mine. But I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't think I don't think he's a bad dude.

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<v Speaker 1>But your album comes out the same day as mind

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, I'll find something bad about you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you thinking about a song? Hurricane? Um? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I guess it was it was, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the stuff I like and don't it's closer

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<v Speaker 1>to real music than then not really, you know who

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<v Speaker 1>don't like? To me, I don't like it's weird because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people think because I make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of a lot of pop country. But what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>odd is I love I do love good pop music

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<v Speaker 1>and I love good country music. And why the two

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<v Speaker 1>coming together? I don't. It makes me so angry. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say. And I don't think I'm any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of purist. But my favorite Taylor Swift record was nine nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked that album. And uh, I thought Bangers

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<v Speaker 1>was great, that Miley Cyrus record. So I like good

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<v Speaker 1>pop and I love Michael Jackson. I just gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>down the good pop music, you know, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>good pop music. I just don't for some reason. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a Did you have Brandy Clark on your podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was talking to her recently and it's not her,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not her quote, but someone gave her a quote

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<v Speaker 1>recently because it's hard. We're just trying to define what

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<v Speaker 1>what is country music? And she said someone defined to

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<v Speaker 1>her country music it's whatever white people are listening to. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a pretty good description, just because that these

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<v Speaker 1>these days, who knows what is country and what's not

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<v Speaker 1>country because it's you know, are you country? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I I claim I am, but in some ways it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's part of my thing. I claim I'm

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<v Speaker 1>made more country to anybody else, but it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really for me to sit. You know. June two, my

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<v Speaker 1>Alms coming out. We have official seal of disapproval from

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Bones. No, it's not disapproval. I don't disapprove of

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<v Speaker 1>because I personally think it's hilarious. But I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to put my Yeah, I'm not gonna put my Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you should go buy it. As you go check it out, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>give me what's your quote? Then? All right? My quote

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<v Speaker 1>is this stuff is crazy. Don't you don't approve of it?

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't approve. Okay, if I said as, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying, I'm gonna use it like a sticker on

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<v Speaker 1>the record. Here's my quote, stuff is crazy and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't approve. I'll take that. Yeah, I'm gonna use that whatever. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all you want. I said it, But secretly I

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<v Speaker 1>do I approve because you just said you said both

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<v Speaker 1>into the money that part you can't use the record.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna. I'm gonna when I leave here on a tweet,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't approve Bobby Bones correct but for quotations, but

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<v Speaker 1>secretly you can do quotations. But secretly I do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just just did the podcast with Bobby Bones quote. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>this quote. I don't approve parentheses, but secretly, secretly he does.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. What if you're quote to me? He sasically,

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<v Speaker 1>I do secretly, Okay, that's part of the quotote, But

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<v Speaker 1>secretly I do. You might get like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of borrow laptop of this, clean up the third

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<v Speaker 1>album and I'll play it. Yeah, you have my give

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<v Speaker 1>me a song not right now? I hope, hope. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>whiler does great. Well, here's my This leads to my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Will probably get cut from the podcast. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a song you love, can you just play it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing gets cut from the podcast the way ever, it's

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<v Speaker 1>our one role. Nothing gets cut. I got to a

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<v Speaker 1>fight with Jake going right here, big one. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>as long we're talking about Jake going, uh, can we

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<v Speaker 1>get it's my I got a message for Jake going,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get his uh? His his cell phone? My

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone number out of his phone two in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He facetimes me the other I'm like, dude, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my underwear. Like he's on the road. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I just met John Dale, you know, the golfer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, we're playing your stuff. He loves it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a text brother, you know FaceTime. I'm like, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that's where I am, like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>also haven't seen Jake going tweeting about him. I loves

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<v Speaker 1>my record. It's just I gotta wake up at two

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. Answer at FaceTime, how do you get

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<v Speaker 1>your number? I met him at a Here's here's an

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<v Speaker 1>important thing to learn about Wheeler. So I played a

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<v Speaker 1>a c M A party that was like the quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote the anti CMA party full of hipsters. And my

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<v Speaker 1>thing is I always want to be the opposite. If

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<v Speaker 1>I hear it's ton me a bunch of hipsters, I go.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually asked my friends, I go, who would be

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<v Speaker 1>the list least hip person to have at this party.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do that with them, and they go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the most a real corporate guy, because they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be anti corporate this party. Well, they go, how

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<v Speaker 1>about Jake Owen. I look, he's following me on twere.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, you wanna do a duet and make all

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<v Speaker 1>these hipsters mad? And he's like, he shows up and

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<v Speaker 1>we sang a song together. You know, it's just anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who was a fan I want to. I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to lose any fans I have. You know, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you get I how you get people though, Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't care? Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to lose the fans I had, But yeah, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>talked me into a clean third record, not even a

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<v Speaker 1>whole claim record. If you get me something that's funny

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a decent song, or it's just a decent song.

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<v Speaker 1>You ask me if I can play whatever, I play

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<v Speaker 1>whatever all the time. Well, Summers in Kentucky's a pretty song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I've heard it, it's not i'ven't read the lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>before I heard it. Could you post it them online?

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I was like I mentioned in this and

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it. I was like, that's funny. Can't play

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<v Speaker 1>it on the radio, but it is pretty. The entitle

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<v Speaker 1>is And then halfway through we go a little I

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<v Speaker 1>go a little it's a little medical, all right, Wheeler

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<v Speaker 1>Walker Jr. June second. I'm a fan. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I met you. Well, I appreciate it, man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, like all seriousness, like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of what you do because you're you're doing something different,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pushing the boundaries. Well, and I'm the first to

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<v Speaker 1>admit that I I hit you pretty hard at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and you took it like a champ and then we

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<v Speaker 1>we worked through it. And I always like when it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny for me to you know, like say like

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<v Speaker 1>you like you worked, you didn't do anything you did

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<v Speaker 1>was sit there while I ripped on you. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know you turned me around. But I guess through reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, and and also not caring not to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get up. What's up with you? And Dylan Scott?

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<v Speaker 1>That one is real? That one I got really upset

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<v Speaker 1>because to me, the Grand ol opertors a sacred place.

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<v Speaker 1>He brought chewbacka mom on stage of the Grand ol Operty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know Hank Williams Seniors banned

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<v Speaker 1>from the Grand ol Opry and Chewbacca moms up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, again, you don't have to be the most

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<v Speaker 1>pure country arts in the world. But chewbacka Mom ain't

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be on stage of the Grand Ol Operation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I ripped on him and then I got word

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<v Speaker 1>that and I said, I when I when I make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of someone on Twitter, I don't tweet one tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>I do about fifty. And I'm like, Chewbacca Mom, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the reason chewbacka Mom got on stage at the grand

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<v Speaker 1>Ol Operate. You're my enemy now. And someone from his

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<v Speaker 1>label contacted my drummer and said, you know, like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell him to knock it off? Which is just

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<v Speaker 1>gets me going again. I mean, it doesn't take much

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<v Speaker 1>for you to not get in my you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't bring Chewbacca Mom on stage at the grand Ole

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<v Speaker 1>operating your pone. Don't take Chewbaca Mom anyway. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be playing on the radio. Cool with that? What this

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<v Speaker 1>part you just said? I like it? Sure? I like

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a that's a good reason to be

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody. Yeah, because I take I take the grand Ope.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like I said, my family coming here from

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville and the from my family been in Nashville since

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<v Speaker 1>they went to the Grand operating the whole days, and

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<v Speaker 1>to know that Hank Williams Sr. Is not a member

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<v Speaker 1>and that and not like my aunt is really close

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<v Speaker 1>with Crystal Gale and she just got in. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying they made Chewbaka member, but Cheebaka Mom being on

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<v Speaker 1>the Grand Opery stage, that ain't right. He blocked you

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, and he's blocking on Twitter. Now I can't

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm missing out on all the good Chewbaca Mom. Juice.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone's going on with Chewbaca Mom, I I am

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<v Speaker 1>gonna know record together. You haven't heard heard well that

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<v Speaker 1>I heard he was taking her on tour. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really hear that. No, No, he said he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take her on to I think he would never do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that well, I don't even know. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what if I went to I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably go to that show to see. If

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<v Speaker 1>if I heard that Chewbaka Mom was doing it was

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<v Speaker 1>playing the country show and that Chewbacca mask, I'd probably

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<v Speaker 1>be in the front row. I mean, can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>how crazy that would love? I can. I'm not terribly

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<v Speaker 1>moved by the thought. Of it. Yeah, remembers Chewbacama came

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<v Speaker 1>out of the CMT Awards and I was just like

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<v Speaker 1>this joke old Yet, Like I said, being fat and

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<v Speaker 1>putting on a Chewbacca mask is not a career. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how's that you can make a living doing that? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I wasting my time writing songs for I should

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<v Speaker 1>have just been fat and bought at Chewbacca mask. You

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<v Speaker 1>still can't? There's still time. Oh yeah, I can eat,

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<v Speaker 1>I can buy a mask, but I ain't got the

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got the goods she's got. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that special something that Chewbaca Mom has that

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Scott obviously found him liking and I love doing

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<v Speaker 1>it ripping on guys like. I've never heard a note

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<v Speaker 1>of his music, nor will I ever. But would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to hear something and decide for yourself? Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the answer is no, but now I really want to. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the songs? Are his songs about Chewbaka Mom. His

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<v Speaker 1>whole album is called Me and the Chew Chewlie. Here's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a single, My girl? This is It's like Top

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<v Speaker 1>twenty right now, taking a long time to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, But it's the top twenty song. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. This is um, Dylan Scott, I can

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<v Speaker 1>already tell us this crap. I hate this bon Jovi country. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm oh my god. You should hear talking to her

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<v Speaker 1>mama on the phone. This is this was, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a this is good as a garage band recording it.

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<v Speaker 1>This This is made on garage band with like the

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<v Speaker 1>country filter or something. This is this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>god awful. This there like then let's let's wait for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You should see a smile. When she called the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>he sounds pretty good. I don't want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>she saved me. My girl. It's called my Girl, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the first song they ever called my Yeah. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>girl in the passenger seat. When the down dance in

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<v Speaker 1>the round called in a scene, that's my girl sipping

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<v Speaker 1>crown is sprite and a ball cap turned back. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>She got me and I can't. Maybe girl, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>turn it again. And they getting all the guys for

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<v Speaker 1>she mute with them but a bit. They don't see

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<v Speaker 1>what I see when I see my girl. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Dylan Scott. Okay, can I give you my my

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<v Speaker 1>grade F strong f. That was horrible and uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what he deserves Chewbacca mom. I honestly think Chewbacca mom,

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<v Speaker 1>that is better than that. Yeah. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>prefer that song. He was wearing a Chewbacca mask. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was god awful. We don't have to agree on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You like. You like that song, I don't us like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't growing on me fully yet, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>just like Itah, no problem with it. Well, I got

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<v Speaker 1>some problems with it. Yeah, that that's just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've heard this is the just the most

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<v Speaker 1>generic thing I've ever heard. So, okay, you're here. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like ole to know who you are listening to this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very I can't even retweet you sometimes, although I

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<v Speaker 1>think it thinks they're very funny. Oh yeah, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very vulgar. I'm very vulgar, and I really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of anger and frustration that led

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<v Speaker 1>to the making of this, the first record, in the

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<v Speaker 1>second one, which is I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of musicians, I think I know that

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<v Speaker 1>do this. A lot of songwriters, you know, they'll write

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<v Speaker 1>the dirty version. There's like let's let's record it, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go clean it up. I'm like, what if we made

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<v Speaker 1>a record, we didn't do that second process or we

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned it up. I go, it's two. You know it's two.

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<v Speaker 1>Was two thousand and sixteen when did my first record.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, we got a YouTube, we got sell

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<v Speaker 1>like radio, we got podcasts. Why do I need the radio?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I need tell? You know? I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to on fallon? And I was a little wrong on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um I was off five, but I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>help him in the extra four million copies maybe. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the titles here? Uh? Fu By

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<v Speaker 1>when he hits Yeah, it's a big one. That's got

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<v Speaker 1>eaten p and kicking a Yeah, that's fan favorite. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was that was the one that broke. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that uh, that was what got us

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<v Speaker 1>our tony redneck s um blank on my face, which

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<v Speaker 1>is actually you make it sound worse. Ah, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>better off beating off. There's that. That's that. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>I can say that you can say radio. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>we can say whatever we want. It's just if you say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you have thirty minutes to go outside and play Give

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<v Speaker 1>a Kick thirty they really have like forty five. If

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<v Speaker 1>I tell Eddie to get to work it four thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really got to four. So I was like, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>we have big sponsors. You know, you can't come in here.

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<v Speaker 1>I see you're putting your videos on you know, explicit websites. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's the thing too, is um Well, my thing

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<v Speaker 1>is always for people to just be honest to who

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<v Speaker 1>they are. That's why I what I I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>that the fact that you don't cust in your your

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<v Speaker 1>life and don't cost on the like, to me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>being authentic. That's to who you are. You know, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be different if I don't like the guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>just really I don't have as much problem as the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just really clean in real life, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it were some crazy persona on air that would bother me,

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<v Speaker 1>probably just as much. I think the first time we met,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember start taking that CMT s right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>c m T Awards and you had just put out

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<v Speaker 1>your first record. Yeah, and I'd ripped. I had ripped

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<v Speaker 1>on you quite a bit on a on a I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say on Twitter, but probably everything yeah and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, that's funny, like if I find it

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<v Speaker 1>when someone makes the time to put me in their heart,

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<v Speaker 1>good or bad. Well you want the first The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I became aware of you that got me

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<v Speaker 1>push me on the other side is in a I

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<v Speaker 1>usually listen to. I don't like other people's opinions of people,

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<v Speaker 1>except when I hear the same thing over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kept hearing a lot of people say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know your name coming up is like, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>likes to push buttons. I go after Like the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>person said that, I was like, I got the I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I've picked this guy wrong, you know, because I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of you as this you know, goody goody pushing pop

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<v Speaker 1>I mean posh pushing you know pop country onto the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if that's wrong. Though, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, I don't know that you were wrong about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well the button pusher part, which I don't know about,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what intrigued me. Which is and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could tell explained to me where that that reputation came from.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a button push your thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what happens if you just say how you feel

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<v Speaker 1>enough people get piste off. You give enough opinions, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to make someone upset. This is the world

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<v Speaker 1>of opinions anymore. It's either have all the opinions or

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<v Speaker 1>none of the opinions. You'd obviously angered enough people that,

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<v Speaker 1>um it came back to me that I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to talk to this dude because he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who angers people is like, I want to meet

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<v Speaker 1>I don't anger people. Didn't for the sake of angering people,

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<v Speaker 1>angry people just because I haven't. If you're angering people

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<v Speaker 1>just because you're being honest, then that's why. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I did. I don't I don't set out

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<v Speaker 1>to make anybody that ever, but I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that person. I don't want to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>someone on the radio who's worried about everything. They're gonna say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen. But then again, I don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose. But I've been in a few and I

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<v Speaker 1>have people, but I've really got into fights with them

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<v Speaker 1>buddies with that now, you know, because it's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, and probably went over a little bit, or

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<v Speaker 1>you probably were a little too sensitive and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>cool exactly. Well, my my favorite one is I went

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<v Speaker 1>real hard especially, I mean at the beginning, I went

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<v Speaker 1>real hard on at Old Dominion, and they tweeted back

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<v Speaker 1>something to me that I thought was funnier. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well they win. I'm never gonna I'm never gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>anything to them again. You know, like, you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of someone if they'd make fun of the Ruins,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the eight mile, Like Eminem, you go at yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing else to say. Yeah, I was like, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>I go. I don't know that I'm gonna listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Old Dominion all night, but I ain't gonna make fun

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<v Speaker 1>of them again. You know who do you like? Um? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously other than the old stuff. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think who's out there right now? You know who

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<v Speaker 1>your audience wouldn't know. It's not that like Margot Price

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<v Speaker 1>has played the show. Yeah, I love I love Brandy

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<v Speaker 1>and you had her on. I love um, I love

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<v Speaker 1>really like John Party, um like Stapleton obviously obviously all

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<v Speaker 1>of America does. And uh, you know I'm Sturgil, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and is Bill who? These are something? I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Outsiders that Europe is. My favorite is

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<v Speaker 1>someone you actually you had on your show, which I

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<v Speaker 1>love that you had her on. My favorite album the

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<v Speaker 1>probably the past year or so was Laurie McKenna's album Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Burton the Rifle, Yeah I got. I love that record. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had her on as a writer and an artist

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<v Speaker 1>because I love it. I love it so much. But kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know she writes everything. Yeah, that's a new thing

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<v Speaker 1>that It's been really cool lately a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>songwriters have kind of been putting out their own records.

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<v Speaker 1>That because Lorie's records great, Natalie Hemby's record is great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because, you know, because being around you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>hear their demos and I you always wonder, like, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you put out a record? And that Pete they're

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<v Speaker 1>finally starting to do it. I love when that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not as angry right now as I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you might be. Yeah, I don't. People are always

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<v Speaker 1>surprised because usually unless I just got someone just got

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<v Speaker 1>angry at me when I walked in. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad mood because I've done interviews where I just

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<v Speaker 1>got like one recently, I just found out because my

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<v Speaker 1>album is now banned from Walmart. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get it wrong. I don't care if I get wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually Walmart cam Art best I think. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>got that news right before an interview last week, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole interview was angry. But right now, do you

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<v Speaker 1>see that coming? Like, don't you make it and go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get banned it probably eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the places. Yeah, but I thought I was gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance of beating this Luke Combs jerk. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it. I mean, yeah, I know what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>which is it's weird for me to really Um, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be seriously mad about it. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I can't call up a publicist or manager

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<v Speaker 1>and go, how in the world did that happen? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that dumb, although I'm pretty dumb, But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I try because I really want to. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Other thing people don't believe about it. I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to compete with these guys. And I could say it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fair, you know, it's not a level playing field,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did. I did it to myself. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have pornographic titles on a record, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in places if they don't want take pornographic anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh totally yeah, I mean, I um, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>use it you and you do use it your advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a fun game you play where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm banned here. Uh, let's go to their website and

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<v Speaker 1>trash it. Yeah, I mean, I think the part that

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<v Speaker 1>angers me is when, because I know it's people listening

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<v Speaker 1>right now are laughing at me, that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken seriously as an artist with titles like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, especially the new records, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say serious things, but in the way that I talk

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<v Speaker 1>because I cursed all I want to talk, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I want to sing the way I talk. So

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<v Speaker 1>it would be untrue to myself to sing instead of

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<v Speaker 1>fub is seeing you know, love you girl, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>miss you girl, or something. It wouldn't it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>how I It's not my natural inclination to do it

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I don't know. I don't people know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about your history that where'd you grow up. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from Kentucky, all right, so you grew up a Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>But I love it here and I've most of my

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<v Speaker 1>families from here. By the way, this isn't I was

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<v Speaker 1>just saying this is a must be noon new area

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville house. Well, I'm saying this area. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>won't say exactly what the area. They get too many

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<v Speaker 1>people come about with guns. I was gonna say kind

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<v Speaker 1>of about the address. I'll tweet the addressing, tweet a

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<v Speaker 1>picture in the front of the house. Um, so you

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 1>grew up with Kentucky. Like, are you a real I mean,

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how good are you are musically? Um? Like,

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>are you do you consider yourself like an A level musician?

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.240
<v Speaker 1>B level musician? Well, anyone who just strumps and sings.

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean my albums both albums were recorded live um

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>to tape, you know. So anything you're hearing is me.

0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 1>There's no auto tune, there's no you know, the second one,

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>especially there. I didn't rerecord any lines, you know, So

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>what you're hearing on the album is is who I am. So, um,

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>don't you wanna give me like a guitar to have

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>me give me a test here? No? I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to because again I see your your first record, which

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I did listen to all and I think it's really funny.

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>It's the thing it's not. It's not fun I would

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>put out, but I think it's really funny that redneck

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>s s is an expert, so you put it out.

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And I remember sitting the studio with Addie, my producer,

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.640
<v Speaker 1>listening to songs, laughing a lot. They go on, man,

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:18.399
<v Speaker 1>this is funny, but people listen to it to go

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>is this guy even real? Like do you like do

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you really play? Yeah? These songs? Well, I think sometimes

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Well I didn't want to be on the comedy charts,

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and I got I got an argument with the people

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 1>who distributed my record. They called me up and like

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>tell me, because to me it was I want to

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>only want to be on the country charts. And we

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 1>got in a big argument like it's not comedy, don't

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>put it and they're streaming like I'm not on the comedy,

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>don't put me on the comedy charts. And halfway through

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the argument I realized it. By the way before, I

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 1>keep yelling and you know, blowing out my voice, what

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>number am I on the comedy charts? And they're like

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 1>number one. I was like, all right, keep me on

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the comedy charts. You know because to me it's not.

0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>It's to me it's really serious stuff that I'm singing about.

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm just using bad words. You know it's not. But

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 1>how was that serious that you're singing about? For example,

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in the song ah, let's see fighting, Well, that's about

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you picked the worst one. Yet I'm just picking one

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>fighting and farting and nothing with fart I mean that one.

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I want that was the worst one, that you picked

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the worst one, because anything with farting is not gonna

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>be serious. But so that was your one moving to comedy,

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that's all. That was your one. No, I don't think

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>it's my one moving to comedy, but it was all

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of It's kind of an f you to to Nashville

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to music rows. Okay, that's interesting. So you're angry at

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the whole establishment, which I am too. When I got

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>into the studio, I'm like, I'm unsuccessful, and this is

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 1>my middle finger to music. Row in my middle and

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make the song so catchy and good that

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.959
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna have to listen to them, and no

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>matter how dirty they are, I'm gonna sell. I'm gonna

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>out sell all these guys, which I didn't do so

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.479
<v Speaker 1>I failed, but I'm gonna out sell these guys with filth.

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>How high on their country chart? Did you ever get

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>debuted a number nine? Which wasn't bad? I mean, we're

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was expecting number nine hundreds, so especially

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 1>for a first record. So I mean, by the way,

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:12.959
<v Speaker 1>lad as a podcast you canna listen to. It's very

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>vulgar and dirty. I actually recommend you don't listen to it. So,

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's it exists, it's weird, it's ante that long.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I've already gotten a lot of non recommendations. Yeah, that's

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>what you want, though, it's like being kicked out of stores.

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Like if you you'd rather have people non recommended, then

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>not mention it. Yeah, like I encourage people not to

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>check it out. Yeah, and while you while you're at it,

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>don't listen to Bobby Bones. Yes, that's my favorite thing.

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have those and people saying listen to it.

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I bought a bunch of billboards and didn't tell

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>anybody about it, and they all said go away Bobby Bones,

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and I hit it for years into a book and

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>everyone thought certain artists that bought them are record labels,

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and I put up all over town, huge billboards. It's

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a go away Bobby Bones, that's it. That's a pretty

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>good Now you got me thinking, yeah, And so everyone

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>was like, who's upset of Bobby? Is it? This artist

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>that I had to fight with? Is that this record label?

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Is that the other ready of stations? And forever they

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>stayed and nobody knew until I put on my book

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and the people were pisted, like Flora George Line went

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>on satellite and bash me because they were like, ain't

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>putting up billboards about himself? Not understanding? I don't know.

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't put them up about me. I did put

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>them up about me, but in your own controversy. Yes,

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Controversies all I love controversy. Yeah, well, you

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>know these billboards still up. Let's get some fill, but

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>they cost too much. I have to leave up. That's

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing is because I put my albums out of myself,

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of ideas that don't ever that

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>we can't pay for because it costs too much money.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Let me talk about you get commercials in your podcast yet, no,

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>we got we gotta offer. Some dog food company wanted

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and then I had that. I told

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>him my idea what I wanted to do with the

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>dog food, and then they disappeared. Okay, let me talk

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>about Let me talk about sleep number. One of my

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>favorites here obvio sleep number and if you go into

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a sleep number store and adjusts on each side. So

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you married, by the way, No girlfriend? All right, Oh

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that's right, you have X wife. She's somebody sings on

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>your record as your ex wife, but it's not really

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>your ex wife. Right. Well, my ex wife's did sing

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>on it, but then she took her name off, she

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>took her vocals off, but we'd already made the artwork,

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>so her name's on it. But it's a country singer

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I love called Nicki. Her name is Nicky Lane. She

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>sings on the track and it's it's uh, that one's

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>called cheating. I'm just calling from my head. What's what's

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>it called. It's called messing or messing her, but it's

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's the dirty word of messing around. That's what

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>it is. Effing around. Yeah, that was why I did

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>a shame. Okay, The bed adjust on each side, so

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>it's right for both of you. The sleep number adjust

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a firmness and comfort and sports. So you're sleep number setting.

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>It's perfect for both couples with optional sleep i Q

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>technology attract your sleep, it helps your sleep. And so

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>my setting is thirty and my sleep i Q score

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>last night was in the nineties. So you want to

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>find a sleep numberstorinary, you can right now. There's a

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>big deal semi annual sell where a Queen C two,

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>mattress is six and you'll only find sleep number in

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the fifties. Sleep Number stores nationwide and you can tell

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>him you herd to hear on the Bobby Cast and

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>there you go, sleep number. I have one my bedrooms,

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like right over there. Really, can I take it for

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>a test? Dride whatever. I'd like to meet some of

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>the girls on your radio show. They look. Am I

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>wrong to say that I started? I think I followed

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter or something or Instagram? Is a lot of

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>the girls who are on your show? Might wrong? Just

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 1>say that there's a lot of attractive women on your show? Yeah,

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody in our show keeps himself a pretty

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>good shape. Who what are the women? Women names? Again?

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Amy is my man host? Yeah? No, na a, Yeah,

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that's I thought she's very really pretty. I saw picture

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>of her. She tweeted out some article she wants some

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>award or something, and then said I always noticed this stuff.

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Or sayce she said she graduated college when she was

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like twelve years old. I mean not twelve, but it

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was something crazy. I'm like you guys in the high

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>school like fifteen or sixteen and in college, I'd like

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to find a real smart woman, you know, to bounce

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>me out. How do you tell girls about your Like

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>if they say, hey, what do you do for a living?

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>You talk about this this music. Um, you know, what

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed is the best thing for with with with

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>girls about the Wheeler stuff is as you're you're seeing

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that this side of me, which is if you put

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>out music like this and you're not a complete, um degenerate,

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>they think they reached, you know, they got past the

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>dark side and the soft cuddy inside, which is not

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that hard to get to. So they think I'm some

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>crazy bad dude, and then they I can surprise them

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>by being nice and it kind of works. What was

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it that I do so mad at everybody? Like in Nashville, Like,

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>what what was it? It said? I think, Uh, the

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>one word I use is failure. You know, your failure,

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>My failure. Yeah. I spent a lot of time trying to,

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, make it and it just didn't happen. Um.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I had some record company issues and

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I had UM, I had some bad deals I signed.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at the end of the day, your career

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is your fault. But I was just so angry. I'm like,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put this anger onto onto a record. And

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>my hope being UM, that are there people out there

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>who as angry as me and like listen to the

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of music which I think you know, they answered

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of angry people around America right now.

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>So you you go out and you're doing a whole

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>uh wheeler tour. Yeah, we're doing a tour. We're doing

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a three dates the week of the release, and then

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>we're waiting a couple of weeks and we're gonna do uh,

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess, like a whole another tour. I don't know

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>if you get this a lot with your when you tour,

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>right when people just when you announce the tour, all

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>yours like eight million comments, why aren't you coming to

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>my city? It's like, anyhow touring works, you know. I

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to explain that to people and people just think

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you pick cities. Yeah, and you don't really just go

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I'll go there. We'll just think about like

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>if I was a kid and like what I tweet Actel,

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, come to so in Kentucky? You know, like

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in acts would reading go tell his major? This guy

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Wheeler wants us to play a lesson and make sure

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it happens, Like, well, what do the thing is gonna happen?

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And now we're booked in l A one, but let's

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>go to lex to this day. I mean, we don't

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>want we don't meant this little kid Wheeler, we don't

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>mess up mess with him. So um yeah, it drives me.

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just like you think your real country

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and you ain't playing in Texas. I'm like, they didn't

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>rub me to Texas, wait me to do and there

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a venue available in the area that I could

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>get to in time. Yeah, what I didn't call up?

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's do a tour and make sure we stay out

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>of Texas. Do you know a lot of country artists

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>stay out of Texas really because of the Texas country scene. Yeah,

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, there's all I know. I was

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna see the options. I know artists who really don't

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>leave Texas and that's why, because what happens is some

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Texas artists will vilify the Nashville artists. So

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Nashville artists going to Texas, they've been trained

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>by the Texas country artists that that's all bad. That's

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting because we actually actually had a good time doing

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Texas on the last were But yeah, it's funny. It's

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>funny for you to say that, because not I forget

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that I'm in Nashville because I'm such an outslayer that

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I am to that I'm a Nashville artist still, which

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I just have no pride take pride

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:17.239
<v Speaker 1>in that. But um yeah, I guess you would get

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>territorial because I've heard before that there are people who

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>make millions of dollars just in Texas. Just I want

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to say millions. Very comfortable. I would say, Also, you

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>only gotta you gotta you know you have to buy

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>a house in Texas that you're gonna cost that much

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to buy a house in Texas. Listen,

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I live in Austin for it's the greatest. And when

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I go and we play Texas it's awesome for us

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>because weird Mike's everybody's Texan. I grew up in Arkansas. Yeah,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I know that because the basketball battles be battles. Really

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>about that too, by the way, Yeah, well, thank well.

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm very passionate about Kentucky basketball and I'm and I

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>make no apologies about it. But it's also the one

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that I can make fun of people and I'm

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna win. It's only one of the few arguments

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm gonna win. Kentucky basketball is a thing.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>This music and the new record comes out Jean second

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Old Wheeler. It's called what's the difference in the First

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Record and the Second Record? To me, the second record

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is well, the main thing is the second records better?

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's um to me, it's really more focused because

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a you know, it's a famous thing. The first records.

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>You's got twenty years to make the first record in

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>six months to make the second record. But I used

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that to my advantage and made it much more focused.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Second records really about everything that happened from the first

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>record to the second record. So it's really um a,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>it's really a snapshot of that portion of my life.

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, it was it's an album about

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I call a wheeler because it's an album about growing old.

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, this new world that we're living in right now,

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a man out of time, you know,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like going to gigs and girls asking me from my

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>snapchat and I don't even know what that, you know,

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what what I got it now, I

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what at the time, just you know, trying

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to play this type of music in this new world

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>was very strange to me and being you know, and

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it, you know, being I felt like

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I was too old, Like why wasn't I doing this?

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't this happen when I was twenty three? You know,

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>why didn't happen you were twenty three? What were doing

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>at twenty three? Um? I was just about you know,

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. I was just stepping on my own feet.

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get out my own way, you know. So

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>it was probably a lot of um and a lot

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of insecurity, and a lot of blaming things and other people,

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a labeled big deal goes bad and I,

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, say it's their fault when I actually actually

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the songs weren't you know, it wasn't good.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think people are gonna hear this

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and hear a more sensitive side. You bring it out

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of me. But Wheeler, Yeah, I thought you were gonna

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>come in right a lot me on fire. No, I

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>mean seen looking forward forward to it a bit. Yeah,

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean I could, but I mean I wasn't. I'll

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I wasn't expecting is coming in and

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>having you tell people not to buy my record or

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to listen to my podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I think people

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't yeah anymore anymore. Great, but they should sleep on

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that bed, absolutely, they should what kind of bed is

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>And not only that they should they should buy Blue Apron.

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.400
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0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:30.759
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0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.680
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0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.879
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0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.839
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0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.479
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0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a better way to cook. I feel like they're

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 1>with the Luke Combs having the number one and maybe

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>suck a little bit out of you know, like you

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>thought you had a shot at beating and well, that's

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the thing is I've kind of I don't know if

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you noticed. My thing was to kind of battle him

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to the top of the charts. Now he's gonna number

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>one song, it's gonna be impossible. So that battle may

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>have already been been one. But may I lose the battle,

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>but win the war. Let's check back in a year.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>And so you sold more. I saw you. I'm playing

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it too. I saw you're playing Faster Horses and that

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>was real because you've done the fake things were like,

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>look look at Wheeler I'm starting wheeler Fest. I started.

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I put out a thing called on April Fools. I

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>announced wheeler Fest with a bunch of huge artists and

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>wheeler Fest dot Com go there for tickets and it

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just had an expletive that led you to preorder my

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>new record. And people are supps still mad, you know,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, and yeah, I was like, that's

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>your fault. There's no place to buy tickets. How are

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you gonna go book a vacation on somewhere there's no tickets,

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, faster Horses, And uh, there was another one.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I forget what it was. Um, yeah, they're having me

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>on late night spots. I guess, you know, adult entertainment,

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>although you know these guys. I guess people are getting

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>roundy around midnight. I guess I can go on after

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the headliners done, I'm gonna play. I think it's what

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, that's that would be the headliner. Then of

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the headliner, Well, that's what I said, and that means

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm the headliner. They said, no, no, no, I don't

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>say that, And I thought at first it may be

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.919
<v Speaker 1>a joke, just because it's what you do. You put

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>things out there. Well, I like making enough, like making

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>up enough stuff so no one knows what's real. Like

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>if I put out number one country album in America,

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I like that people wouldn't even believe me. Haven't you

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>noticed that anything that's put online is just fact until

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it's proven otherwise. By the time it's proven otherwise, it

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. It's already people's heads. It's fact. We sat

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 1>with the last election. Yeah, I mean, it'sn't it's it's

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>true because when you see it, something in like the

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>right font, because it looks like what old media used

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.399
<v Speaker 1>to look like. It's just like it was written down

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>on my computer. It must be true, you know, It's

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>like because I was trying to to um, it looks

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like it's not gonna happen, But I tried to because

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the this election was a lot about

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>fake news and about all that stuff, and so I

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to plant a fake news story about Wheeler, like

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like your Bobby bone, like the Billboard thing.

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.479
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get a crazy story about myself, playing

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the news that went viral and plant like, you know,

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like that pizza place, what was that thing called pizza

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Gate something like that about me and have it go big.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Not like that though, not like that. Now. I was

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>like a sex I didn't want to get in anybody

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>in trouble, but I wanted to. Can I tell you

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to do, as long as you don't

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're running it for later use, Well, yeah,

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I might want to do it, so I'll keep it

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to myself. But it was something. It was something bad

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that happened to me, and I wanted people I wanted

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to do. I wanted to hire someone to put out

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>fake news about me. But it's hard to find these,

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, these dudes stay pretty underground. Yeah, they're mostly

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>from other countries. Yeah, they are. They all the ones

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been finding. It's like I gotta pay them in

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, some weird kind of bitcoin. Bitcoin. Yeah, I'll

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>tell you what. I don't have a lot of bitcoin.

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>How's that bitcoin thing work? Basically, you take money and

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you it's a currency exchange. It's just like any other dollar,

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>but it goes up it does it like a stock point? No,

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I thought I may have to if

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>my computer gets hit by one of these malware viruses,

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>because they did the whole cyber attack and they hit

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 1>all the UK. It's they have FedEx in the United States,

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.240
<v Speaker 1>but all the computers will pop up and it would say, boom,

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>we got you. We need three hundred dollars. And what

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you can do is send it to bitcoin. To send

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it to this address. You can't track the addressing bitcoin.

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 1>It's not a real post office box. So it's it's

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>how hackers are making money right now. I think they

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>made a couple of billion dollars. If someone hacked me

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and they said three inner bucks will unhack you, I'd

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>pay you in to seconds. So what I would be

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>some way like Durnner Bucks. But how do I know that?

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta come back at me again. And even then,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>you can't be like, here's my credit card, you know,

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>take three you know in bitcoin exactly. Yeah, that's I'll

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>get bitcoin for that. I get unhacked, I save them

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>off files, and I throw that computer away. So you

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you got you bought the bitcoins to get ready for that.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a whole closet full of bitcoin. It's not a

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.399
<v Speaker 1>real thing, is not a tangible Bitcoin's intangible thing. It's

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a bitcoins like credit. So they can't throw it

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to you onto your own stage when you're playing. They

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>don't asked to get paid. I can't, can't, I can't.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't put bitcoin in a girl's bottom.

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm at the club. You can't know. Are you

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>expecting people to come to your shows? Yeah, I mean

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the point. That's why I'm doing it. Yeah, I

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>mean Exit in sold out. Um, we're doing three shows

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>that week, and I think it's Exit. It's Nashville doing

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Exit in uh New York Bowery Ballroom and troubad Or

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in l A. I think they're all sold out. New

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 1>York might be you have some tickets, but um, they're

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>buying tickets, so that's my thing. I'm playing the shows

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>as long as people buy tickets. You're gonna Is this

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the thing you're gonna stick to doing? Are you gonna

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>try for album three, four or five? Yeah? I mean

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it always comes up. Well, I always gonna stay one

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>step ahead of them. But unfortunately, like I'm thinking, like

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the biggest trick I could play right

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>now would be to come out with like a clean record,

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that. I want. You know, that

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>would shock everyone. But is that really the game I

0:41:58.200 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 1>want to play? I don't know. You know, I don't know.

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you find artists are trying to be your friends?

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't attack them? Yeah, I mean I will. I

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>won't name their name, but I think people would be

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>surprised what country artists have come out privately to me

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>through whoever. Like, I just want to let you know

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan. Like no, I don't want nothing about

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I want you to open a show. I don't want

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to see d I don't want to agreh and just

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 1>want to let you know I'm a fan. I think

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>what you just said is the reason why I think

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying is to leave me, leave me alone.

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>But I've met a lot of these dude, you know,

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the big the big guys who are fans of mine.

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, can you tweet about it? We're a

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>T shirt or something. It doesn't help me. If you're

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a big star and you're a fan, you keep it

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to yourself. Spit it out, dude. To be fair, I

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>retweet you when I can because I think it's funny. Yeah,

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you're good about that. You don't, I mean, you don't care.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Aubrey Sellers is a big fan. She's a friend I love.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I love Aubrey. You guess she's really good. She came

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>in with singing your praises. Yeah, and I think it's

0:42:56.200 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a you know, um, I don't think it. It's gonna

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>In fact, you you're you're you know Stapleton in my podcast,

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>So he's obviously not worried about it. But it's not

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna affect your sales, isn't you know? You know, like

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 1>if I could see why, you know, like Luke Bryan

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 1>ain't canna cover fu b But if he said in

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>an interview that he was a fan of mine, it's

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>not gonna He's not gonna go broke, you know, but

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>why would it benefit him to say he's a fan

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of something that could cost him money. I don't know.

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I just want. I just want people like that to

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:33.439
<v Speaker 1>say it. I want. I can't argue why. I can't

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 1>argue why people like that shouldn't say. I mean, I

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 1>understand why they're not, but I want still who publicly

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 1>has been the biggest person to Counting go. I enjoy

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Wiler Walker Jr. Publicly. Um, if we're just playing a

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>pure numbers game, I would say I did the Joe

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Rogan podcast because he was a fan of Holy Mackerel.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, And that's bigger than SNL. That's

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Beard is a night show. He uh. Someone told me

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>some of his his podcasts get up to ten million downloads,

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>So that's bigger than network TV. That's what I'm saying.

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>The new which I don't need to explain to you,

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>we're doing it right now, but this new media is

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy what you can do out there. I mean,

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I think if you were a new artist, I think

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>going on Joe Rogan would be a better use of

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>your time than SNL. Honestly, I understand the prestige of it.

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>But as far as what's going to move the needle,

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I think they go that those numbers are just getting

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>so big. Right Now, here's the difference, because I agree

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>with you, Like, if I had something to promote and

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it was me and I already had a name, I

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>would try to go on Joe Rogan because he has

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>such a first of all, it's hilarious exactly, he is

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>such a loyal if when he says it's good, they

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>go by. You know. The difference is when you do

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a SNL, it's not so much to sell, it's to

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>sell your peers that they should sell you so it

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 1>verifies you. Yeah, So when it's like the blue check

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 1>on your Twitter. When Maren goes on SNL, I don't

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>think SNL sold a bunch of records for her. But

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>then some more people were like, oh let me, okay,

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I should get in on this, and the next thing

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you see time you see you in the paper, you're like, oh,

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I know her. So I think they're used for different things. Yeah,

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But as far as just moving units, I think nowadays

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>podcasts and all these other weirds. Because my thing is

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I like to always say yet like this guy. His

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>name is Jehovah Jehovah I would assume not his birth name,

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>but he plays video games on the on YouTube and

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>he goes, hey, man, I've never done a podcast before,

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>but would you skype in? I would like to try

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.720
<v Speaker 1>a podcast, And he has a head a million YouTube followers,

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, yeah, just to do a podcast

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 1>and you know, half a million people listen to it.

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Just be open to that, you know, I like to

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>be open to that kind of stuff. I'll talk to thee.

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>What happened was he was playing my he was playing

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>video games while and singing my songs while he was playing,

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and people were listening liked watching him play video games

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>while he's saying my songs. Because we were noticing a

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of people mentioning Jehovah on my videos. I'm like,

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>our people finding God while you mean, it turns out

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 1>this this this uh, this gamer guy was so there's

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like there's unlimited ways to now promote yourself. That's just

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 1>so strange, you know, um, other than I mean, they

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>used to be radio only and now it's well, I

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 1>guess I should ask you your opinion on that. Being

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>a radio guy like does that worry you or do you? Well?

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I do everything else, so it's all I guess. I

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's cool that you do radio. I don't like

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to compliment you too much because it roun

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>my image, But that you're doing the podcast with the

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.919
<v Speaker 1>radio thing, I think there's there are a million ways

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to promote yourself. I tell artists all the time, like, hey,

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have radio to succeed. Well, that's

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>why I started the podcast because they were all these

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>podcasts helped me out. Was like, wouldn't it be easy

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>if I just did my own and then my podcast

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 1>will help me out? But I'm not getting rogue numbers,

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>so you won't until you do. It's just I mean

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>even for I, I mean before we hit seven figures,

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 1>it took forty episodes. Well you haven't had me on yet.

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>This one probably break the all, so can I I'll

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>answer you much out radio right now in our format

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and country radio moves and need more than anything else does. Yeah,

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>well that's my problem. That's that's where I'm hurting myself.

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's why Luck Luke komb singing about the weather's outside,

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:25.479
<v Speaker 1>so he's me doing a tie in with the Weather

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Channel is there? So I gotta beat this guy. I mean,

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't playing country music and doing a

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>tie in with the Weather Channel. You're saying that's not country.

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't even know. I don't know what

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:41.919
<v Speaker 1>that is. But like, you know, hey, man, you gotta

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 1>check out this new artist on the Weather Channel. No,

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I would be like, you know, man, that's enough. Shut up?

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>What about who? While Walker Senior? That's my dad and

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 1>who now wishes he'd called me Carl. He's nothing too

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 1>happy about it, just because he doesn't call himself wheel Walker,

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>so years called himself We have a walk and they're like, oh,

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you must be relations Like, don't even bring it up.

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, giving your mom and I headache. You know

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's enough already. So I actually did my first interview.

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't interview with an Alabama paper last week. They

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>won't interview my dad to me and my dad both

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>got on a conference call and talked to this guy.

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.799
<v Speaker 1>And I can't wait to read this article. Is me

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 1>with my dad yelling at me for forty five minutes. Well,

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 1>this guy tried to break up and fight, so we'll

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>see how it comes out. It was like he was

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>listening into a call from back in the day when

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you pick up the phone and two people are on

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it talking exactly and he's like, we have time for

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 1>a question that my dad's yell and I'm like, no,

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>we're in the middle. We're in the middle. I'm in

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the middle of yelling at what's your mom think about this?

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>She mean, she's she's such a sweetheart that she's you know, oh,

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>you're selling records, you're selling tickets. Is good? But you know,

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>what did I do wrong? Is? Really? I thought I

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>raised you right? You know. I see your song is

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 1>going for radio play next week. Yeah, it's going for

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>radio ads. It's summer, summer. I can tuck you right.

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Some was in Kentucky. We're gonna see if people will

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>have the colonies to play this thing. By the way,

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you the answer if you want to know.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, they ain't gonna play it. But it's fun

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to try because I'm trying to play the game. But

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.879
<v Speaker 1>are you like trying to play the game again, You're

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>doing the opposite that I got in trouble for. Like

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I in trou for not playing the game.

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I have a question well, you might be asking like,

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>that's whatever you want? Are you? Are you? Do you

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>get in trouble for playing a song where they're like,

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed. I don't mean dirty, I'm just talking about, like,

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>especially at first a lot. Here's here's a really good

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>example for you. There was yeah the answers yes many

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 1>times earlier in the first couple of years. And so

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>there was an artist, it was mostly songwriter in town.

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So I called him. I was like, because I seen

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>him on YouTube and I had some friends who had

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>written with them a lot, and so I'm like, hey's regrets.

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I called him once and he was in the shower

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, man, let me call you right back.

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>This is on the air. Calls me back. I was like, hey,

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>did you come up and play our show? And he

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:03.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't have song, didn't have a never record out. I've

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>been in bands before, but he didn't have a song.

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 1>He's promoting then, and so it came up and played

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and it was amazing. He left and said, hey, should

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>come up again. Two weeks later, comes up, plays again, amazing.

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:16.720
<v Speaker 1>My boss calls, he goes, hey, we're getting complaints because

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this artist nobody knows who he is, and you're on

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.359
<v Speaker 1>in a hundred cities and you have the unknown artist

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:24.879
<v Speaker 1>that nobody and I was like, but he's so good

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>does that even matter? And that was the argument, he's

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>so good, he's so good. Played one more time and

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you have to stop having them on, so

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>smash cut to about two months later, he's playing the

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Cima with Justin timber Lake. It's Chris Stapleton, and all

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it's like, okay, you know what we're

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna So basically they don't trust you to break new artists.

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>They didn't, and that was the That was kind of

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 1>the final pop. If I were you do you use

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>as examples sometimes? But the thing is I didn't break Chris.

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.720
<v Speaker 1>But but I'm saying, look, but I guess my question

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>is to them, it does them no good for you

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to break an artist, is what you're saying. It doesn't

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>out because the artists that I've had in before, like

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I broke Jansen, Chris Jansen, like he even't even record label.

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>When I played this song Cam she came in. It

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even her single. Burning House wasn't a single. I'm

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>just gonna show up at your station just start playing.

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 1>We had Marin before her songs were even downloadable that

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it was just well, I thought it was cool, you know,

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I thought it was cool for you

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>because like Lorie's albums on a really small label. I

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>thought it was cool for you to have Lori and

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.399
<v Speaker 1>that was really cool. You know, getting that out there

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.840
<v Speaker 1>is cool because that's that obviously had to help. I

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of trouble at first, but then they

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 1>started to say, okay, well he's he's batting pretty high

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's good for the company. Tucker Bethard, you know,

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>his song wasn't even threw him on. So yeah, I know,

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't even more. Now you're just rubbing it in

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>about what what I could get if I if you

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>just showed up with We've had artis show up with

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the guitarsist in the in the lobby and then get

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 1>really upset they couldn't get in the studio. So I could,

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I could, I could play a clean version on my

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 1>acoustic I clean version of what summers in Kentucky? Then

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.279
<v Speaker 1>why not make a clean version for radio? Because you

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>know radio playing to act like a bad bad MF.

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, I gotta go. But a bad m F

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get on the radio. And you don't need the radio.

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>But a bad m F does not get on the radio.

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I know. I again, where were you two years ago

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>when I when I was trying to do you know,

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 1>what kind of song did you have two years ago?

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, when I made the first record, if you

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 1>told me make a clean version and I'll play it,

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I would have done it. But I just assumed no

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>one was gonna play it anyway. That's why I didn't

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, I'll come by place a clean version

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>of Somers in Kentucky. But um, uh, you know uh,

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 1>because I mean the other thing too, is it's hard

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 1>because I'm doing New York Press next week and we're

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna do Stern I think, So it's like there, I'm

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 1>not gonna have to to do it. So then do

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to come back and do Rigor Radio and

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 1>clean it up? My answers probably yeah, because I gotta

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get this. I get I gotta get the this.

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh the lead singer of the Weather Channel off the charts.

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>The fact that you're getting starting is pretty awesome. Um yeah,

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm I was psyched about it. I think to be honest.

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're doing I know, we're doing the after show show,

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:10.279
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm not sure, and then there was the

0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:13.959
<v Speaker 1>possibility of doing the actual Stern maybe the week after.

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, I'm a huge fan. Yeah, I

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>love him. Yeah, even now, I don't know, do you

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I still do? Yeah? And I, Um, I did the

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I did the wrap up show last year and um

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 1>sal and Richard gave me a tour the studio was

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like the best part of my whole my whole, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole promo experience. Like I saw the studio, Howard's desk

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and I had a blast. It was like

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it was better than country music called thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You meet Gary and John? Yeah, because she did the

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:47.799
<v Speaker 1>show with them, right. Yeah. You know I love about

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>about the wrap up show is Gary and John. They'll

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>come in arguing about it's you realize when you're there,

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 1>this is real. They're arguing about what just happened on

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the air, and they sit down and just flip the

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>mics on. They're going like, did you meet j D. Yeah,

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:04.359
<v Speaker 1>so you get to meet it. I'm as you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a super fan. Yeah, I met you. I

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<v Speaker 1>hung out with j D a little bit sal Richard

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<v Speaker 1>Um John Heine and uh hit him with the hind

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<v Speaker 1>and uh uh and boba booie. Um. So it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a heck of a day for me. Satellite

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<v Speaker 1>is playing some of your stuff. Yeah, all all countries

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>playing it? Yeah, Al, who's the host? Mojo Nixon? Mojoe Nixon?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever? Do you ever hear him? Growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>He used to. He had a song that MTV played

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. No, you know that's he. He had

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<v Speaker 1>one called Elvis is Everywhere that people would play. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's also that Dead Milkman song that they used to

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<v Speaker 1>play on MTV a lot with a Dead Milkman. The

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 1>song is called punk Rock Girl. He's just singing about

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.839
<v Speaker 1>punk rock Girl. It's like he's talking about the local

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<v Speaker 1>record store. If you're if your story ain't got Mojoe

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Nixon and your store could use some fixing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying his poetry, but that's how I first heard the

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 1>name Mojoe Nixon. It was the guy in in the

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:02.840
<v Speaker 1>video was mad that the local record store was Karen

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Mojo all right. I was coming out of June second.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope people that are of Mike, How would you

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<v Speaker 1>say this? Who should we tell to check this record out?

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of audience to listen to it prisoners, um, degenerates. Uh,

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>people who hate Dylan Scott but also like to sell

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:26.839
<v Speaker 1>a copy of Dylant Scott's gotta buy it. I ain't

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:31.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna get him one. Um. If you like if you

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like country music and you like you don't and you

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like it, you're you like it your music uncensored, you know,

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>that's this is what this is for you. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind the dirty words and you're sick of people

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to hold back with if you hate what you

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:52.760
<v Speaker 1>just heard, it's this album for you. It's the anti

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Dylant Scott. If people listen to this and yeah, maybe

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the music, but it is paying that

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>ten bucks free record or whatever it is. Is that

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 1>also paying? Is it? Is it money toward or against

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<v Speaker 1>the current state of country music? Absolutely? That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. I'm trying to try to turn this

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<v Speaker 1>into a war. All right. Uh, Wheeler Walker Jr. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are gonna check you out and something

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be mad at me for it, and that's okay.

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 1>And Can I just say one thing. Don't blame don't

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 1>blame Bobby. Don't yell at him. I did bring you

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>up and put you on to be fair so they

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:26.919
<v Speaker 1>could blame me. I got blame for a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. Blame Bobby. I don't care. I didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Um, we're gonna go. We appreciate you coming by.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with the record. Thanks man, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do an interview or I'm here. I'm doing press all day,

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>so everybody wants to talk to you. He's taking the

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 1>headphones off and he's he's done. We haven't even wrapped

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the show. He's out though, all right, Wheeler Walker Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode sixty Mike, all right, there he goes, all right, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, he's out of here and he leaves the room.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, weel Walker Junior, everybody, and he's he's out.