Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode sixty of the Bobby Cast,
Speaker 1: brought to us by a Sleep number and Blue Apron.
Speaker 1: So Wheeler Walker Jr. Is here. Before we started this,
Speaker 1: Before you say anything, I want to say, first of all,
Speaker 1: I do not people are gonna hear this and go
Speaker 1: check out your music, and if they do, I don't
Speaker 1: want them blaming me because it's not music that even
Speaker 1: I listened to. I think it's funny, but I don't
Speaker 1: listen to it because I don't occurse in my real life.
Speaker 1: This is just a big disclaimer everybody's listening to I
Speaker 1: have no I have no interest in Wheeler Walker Junior's
Speaker 1: dirty music other than I think it's funny to read
Speaker 1: the titles. Now, you can say whatever you want, Alright, cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want. I'm gonna keep it clean for this podcast,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna lie. It's definitely not the first
Speaker 1: interview I've done with it that starts with a disclaimer.
Speaker 1: You know. That's the That's the bummer for me is
Speaker 1: I gotta sit down for interview and then the interviewer
Speaker 1: spends ten minutes apologizing before I have a chance to talk.
Speaker 1: But um, I appreciate you having me on and having
Speaker 1: me on, you know, over to your place and doing this, um,
Speaker 1: because my new the thing with my new record, and
Speaker 1: the first one was kind of just like kicking my
Speaker 1: foot into nationale and see what I could do. And
Speaker 1: this one, I'm truly trying to, you know, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be part of the conversation, you know in the
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones and well yeah, but I but I want
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to insult the other country acts as
Speaker 1: much as I used to because in my head I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting next to him at the Grammys and
Speaker 1: it gets it gets a laugh when I say it.
Speaker 1: But um, I'm here to stay and I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to out sell Sky Luke Combs. His album
Speaker 1: comes out the same day as mine, and I've decided
Speaker 1: he's my enemy because his album comes out the same
Speaker 1: day as mine. But I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you don't think I don't think he's a bad dude.
Speaker 1: But your album comes out the same day as mind
Speaker 1: your mind, I'll find something bad about you. You know,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about a song? Hurricane? Um? I
Speaker 1: mean I guess it was it was, you know, as
Speaker 1: far as the stuff I like and don't it's closer
Speaker 1: to real music than then not really, you know who
Speaker 1: don't like? To me, I don't like it's weird because, um,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think because I make
Speaker 1: fun of a lot of pop country. But what's what's
Speaker 1: odd is I love I do love good pop music
Speaker 1: and I love good country music. And why the two
Speaker 1: coming together? I don't. It makes me so angry. It's
Speaker 1: hard to say. And I don't think I'm any kind
Speaker 1: of purist. But my favorite Taylor Swift record was nine nine.
Speaker 1: I really liked that album. And uh, I thought Bangers
Speaker 1: was great, that Miley Cyrus record. So I like good
Speaker 1: pop and I love Michael Jackson. I just gonna go
Speaker 1: down the good pop music, you know, and I love
Speaker 1: good pop music. I just don't for some reason. I
Speaker 1: think it's a Did you have Brandy Clark on your podcast?
Speaker 1: Because I was talking to her recently and it's not her,
Speaker 1: it's not her quote, but someone gave her a quote
Speaker 1: recently because it's hard. We're just trying to define what
Speaker 1: what is country music? And she said someone defined to
Speaker 1: her country music it's whatever white people are listening to. Well,
Speaker 1: that was a pretty good description, just because that these
Speaker 1: these days, who knows what is country and what's not
Speaker 1: country because it's you know, are you country? I mean,
Speaker 1: I I claim I am, but in some ways it's not.
Speaker 1: I mean that's part of my thing. I claim I'm
Speaker 1: made more country to anybody else, but it's it's not
Speaker 1: really for me to sit. You know. June two, my
Speaker 1: Alms coming out. We have official seal of disapproval from
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones. No, it's not disapproval. I don't disapprove of
Speaker 1: because I personally think it's hilarious. But I'm not going
Speaker 1: to put my Yeah, I'm not gonna put my Hey,
Speaker 1: you should go buy it. As you go check it out, Well,
Speaker 1: give me what's your quote? Then? All right? My quote
Speaker 1: is this stuff is crazy. Don't you don't approve of it?
Speaker 1: But I don't approve. Okay, if I said as, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, I'm gonna use it like a sticker on
Speaker 1: the record. Here's my quote, stuff is crazy and I
Speaker 1: don't approve. I'll take that. Yeah, I'm gonna use that whatever. Great,
Speaker 1: it's all you want. I said it, But secretly I
Speaker 1: do I approve because you just said you said both
Speaker 1: into the money that part you can't use the record.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna when I leave here on a tweet,
Speaker 1: I don't approve Bobby Bones correct but for quotations, but
Speaker 1: secretly you can do quotations. But secretly I do. Okay,
Speaker 1: just just did the podcast with Bobby Bones quote. Here's
Speaker 1: this quote. I don't approve parentheses, but secretly, secretly he does.
Speaker 1: I do. What if you're quote to me? He sasically,
Speaker 1: I do secretly, Okay, that's part of the quotote, But
Speaker 1: secretly I do. You might get like a like a
Speaker 1: kind of borrow laptop of this, clean up the third
Speaker 1: album and I'll play it. Yeah, you have my give
Speaker 1: me a song not right now? I hope, hope. Oh
Speaker 1: whiler does great. Well, here's my This leads to my question.
Speaker 1: Will probably get cut from the podcast. But if you
Speaker 1: have a song you love, can you just play it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nothing gets cut from the podcast the way ever, it's
Speaker 1: our one role. Nothing gets cut. I got to a
Speaker 1: fight with Jake going right here, big one. By the way,
Speaker 1: as long we're talking about Jake going, uh, can we
Speaker 1: get it's my I got a message for Jake going,
Speaker 1: can we get his uh? His his cell phone? My
Speaker 1: cell phone number out of his phone two in the morning.
Speaker 1: He facetimes me the other I'm like, dude, like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm in my underwear. Like he's on the road. He goes,
Speaker 1: I was, I just met John Dale, you know, the golfer.
Speaker 1: He's like, we're playing your stuff. He loves it. Like
Speaker 1: that's a text brother, you know FaceTime. I'm like, anyway,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's where I am, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: also haven't seen Jake going tweeting about him. I loves
Speaker 1: my record. It's just I gotta wake up at two
Speaker 1: in the morning. Answer at FaceTime, how do you get
Speaker 1: your number? I met him at a Here's here's an
Speaker 1: important thing to learn about Wheeler. So I played a
Speaker 1: a c M A party that was like the quote
Speaker 1: unquote the anti CMA party full of hipsters. And my
Speaker 1: thing is I always want to be the opposite. If
Speaker 1: I hear it's ton me a bunch of hipsters, I go.
Speaker 1: I actually asked my friends, I go, who would be
Speaker 1: the list least hip person to have at this party.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that with them, and they go, well,
Speaker 1: the most a real corporate guy, because they were trying
Speaker 1: to be anti corporate this party. Well, they go, how
Speaker 1: about Jake Owen. I look, he's following me on twere.
Speaker 1: I go, you wanna do a duet and make all
Speaker 1: these hipsters mad? And he's like, he shows up and
Speaker 1: we sang a song together. You know, it's just anyone
Speaker 1: who was a fan I want to. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to lose any fans I have. You know, that's how
Speaker 1: you get I how you get people though, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: if you don't care? Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted
Speaker 1: to lose the fans I had, But yeah, no, you
Speaker 1: talked me into a clean third record, not even a
Speaker 1: whole claim record. If you get me something that's funny
Speaker 1: and it's a decent song, or it's just a decent song.
Speaker 1: You ask me if I can play whatever, I play
Speaker 1: whatever all the time. Well, Summers in Kentucky's a pretty song.
Speaker 1: It's I've heard it, it's not i'ven't read the lyrics
Speaker 1: before I heard it. Could you post it them online?
Speaker 1: You're like, I was like I mentioned in this and
Speaker 1: I heard it. I was like, that's funny. Can't play
Speaker 1: it on the radio, but it is pretty. The entitle
Speaker 1: is And then halfway through we go a little I
Speaker 1: go a little it's a little medical, all right, Wheeler
Speaker 1: Walker Jr. June second. I'm a fan. I told you
Speaker 1: the first time I met you. Well, I appreciate it, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I said, like all seriousness, like I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of what you do because you're you're doing something different,
Speaker 1: you're pushing the boundaries. Well, and I'm the first to
Speaker 1: admit that I I hit you pretty hard at first,
Speaker 1: and you took it like a champ and then we
Speaker 1: we worked through it. And I always like when it's
Speaker 1: it's funny for me to you know, like say like
Speaker 1: you like you worked, you didn't do anything you did
Speaker 1: was sit there while I ripped on you. And then
Speaker 1: you know you turned me around. But I guess through reputation,
Speaker 1: I guess, and and also not caring not to be
Speaker 1: able to get up. What's up with you? And Dylan Scott?
Speaker 1: That one is real? That one I got really upset
Speaker 1: because to me, the Grand ol opertors a sacred place.
Speaker 1: He brought chewbacka mom on stage of the Grand ol Operty.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know Hank Williams Seniors banned
Speaker 1: from the Grand ol Opry and Chewbacca moms up there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, again, you don't have to be the most
Speaker 1: pure country arts in the world. But chewbacka Mom ain't
Speaker 1: supposed to be on stage of the Grand Ol Operation.
Speaker 1: So I ripped on him and then I got word
Speaker 1: that and I said, I when I when I make
Speaker 1: fun of someone on Twitter, I don't tweet one tweet.
Speaker 1: I do about fifty. And I'm like, Chewbacca Mom, you're
Speaker 1: the reason chewbacka Mom got on stage at the grand
Speaker 1: Ol Operate. You're my enemy now. And someone from his
Speaker 1: label contacted my drummer and said, you know, like, can
Speaker 1: you tell him to knock it off? Which is just
Speaker 1: gets me going again. I mean, it doesn't take much
Speaker 1: for you to not get in my you know, just
Speaker 1: don't bring Chewbacca Mom on stage at the grand Ole
Speaker 1: operating your pone. Don't take Chewbaca Mom anyway. This will
Speaker 1: be playing on the radio. Cool with that? What this
Speaker 1: part you just said? I like it? Sure? I like
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a good reason to be
Speaker 1: for somebody. Yeah, because I take I take the grand Ope.
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, my family coming here from
Speaker 1: Nashville and the from my family been in Nashville since
Speaker 1: they went to the Grand operating the whole days, and
Speaker 1: to know that Hank Williams Sr. Is not a member
Speaker 1: and that and not like my aunt is really close
Speaker 1: with Crystal Gale and she just got in. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they made Chewbaka member, but Cheebaka Mom being on
Speaker 1: the Grand Opery stage, that ain't right. He blocked you
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and he's blocking on Twitter. Now I can't
Speaker 1: and now I'm missing out on all the good Chewbaca Mom. Juice.
Speaker 1: If someone's going on with Chewbaca Mom, I I am
Speaker 1: gonna know record together. You haven't heard heard well that
Speaker 1: I heard he was taking her on tour. You didn't
Speaker 1: really hear that. No, No, he said he was gonna
Speaker 1: take her on to I think he would never do that.
Speaker 1: I heard that well, I don't even know. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what if I went to I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I would probably go to that show to see. If
Speaker 1: if I heard that Chewbaka Mom was doing it was
Speaker 1: playing the country show and that Chewbacca mask, I'd probably
Speaker 1: be in the front row. I mean, can you imagine
Speaker 1: how crazy that would love? I can. I'm not terribly
Speaker 1: moved by the thought. Of it. Yeah, remembers Chewbacama came
Speaker 1: out of the CMT Awards and I was just like
Speaker 1: this joke old Yet, Like I said, being fat and
Speaker 1: putting on a Chewbacca mask is not a career. Like,
Speaker 1: how's that you can make a living doing that? Why
Speaker 1: am I wasting my time writing songs for I should
Speaker 1: have just been fat and bought at Chewbacca mask. You
Speaker 1: still can't? There's still time. Oh yeah, I can eat,
Speaker 1: I can buy a mask, but I ain't got the
Speaker 1: I ain't got the goods she's got. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't have that special something that Chewbaca Mom has that
Speaker 1: Dylan Scott obviously found him liking and I love doing
Speaker 1: it ripping on guys like. I've never heard a note
Speaker 1: of his music, nor will I ever. But would you
Speaker 1: like to hear something and decide for yourself? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: sure the answer is no, but now I really want to. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are the songs? Are his songs about Chewbaka Mom. His
Speaker 1: whole album is called Me and the Chew Chewlie. Here's that.
Speaker 1: Here's a single, My girl? This is It's like Top
Speaker 1: twenty right now, taking a long time to get there,
Speaker 1: to be fair, But it's the top twenty song. Now
Speaker 1: here we go. This is um, Dylan Scott, I can
Speaker 1: already tell us this crap. I hate this bon Jovi country. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm oh my god. You should hear talking to her
Speaker 1: mama on the phone. This is this was, this is
Speaker 1: a this is good as a garage band recording it.
Speaker 1: This This is made on garage band with like the
Speaker 1: country filter or something. This is this is this is
Speaker 1: god awful. This there like then let's let's wait for it.
Speaker 1: You should see a smile. When she called the baby,
Speaker 1: he sounds pretty good. I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: she saved me. My girl. It's called my Girl, yeah,
Speaker 1: the first song they ever called my Yeah. That's my
Speaker 1: girl in the passenger seat. When the down dance in
Speaker 1: the round called in a scene, that's my girl sipping
Speaker 1: crown is sprite and a ball cap turned back. Good.
Speaker 1: She got me and I can't. Maybe girl, you're gonna
Speaker 1: turn it again. And they getting all the guys for
Speaker 1: she mute with them but a bit. They don't see
Speaker 1: what I see when I see my girl. There you go,
Speaker 1: there's Dylan Scott. Okay, can I give you my my
Speaker 1: grade F strong f. That was horrible and uh, you
Speaker 1: know what he deserves Chewbacca mom. I honestly think Chewbacca mom,
Speaker 1: that is better than that. Yeah. By the way, I
Speaker 1: prefer that song. He was wearing a Chewbacca mask. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was god awful. We don't have to agree on everything.
Speaker 1: You like. You like that song, I don't us like it.
Speaker 1: It hasn't growing on me fully yet, but I don't
Speaker 1: just like Itah, no problem with it. Well, I got
Speaker 1: some problems with it. Yeah, that that's just it's just
Speaker 1: I mean, you've heard this is the just the most
Speaker 1: generic thing I've ever heard. So, okay, you're here. I'd
Speaker 1: like ole to know who you are listening to this.
Speaker 1: You're very I can't even retweet you sometimes, although I
Speaker 1: think it thinks they're very funny. Oh yeah, no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm very vulgar. I'm very vulgar, and I really you know,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of anger and frustration that led
Speaker 1: to the making of this, the first record, in the
Speaker 1: second one, which is I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: because a lot of musicians, I think I know that
Speaker 1: do this. A lot of songwriters, you know, they'll write
Speaker 1: the dirty version. There's like let's let's record it, let's
Speaker 1: go clean it up. I'm like, what if we made
Speaker 1: a record, we didn't do that second process or we
Speaker 1: cleaned it up. I go, it's two. You know it's two.
Speaker 1: Was two thousand and sixteen when did my first record.
Speaker 1: So it's like, we got a YouTube, we got sell
Speaker 1: like radio, we got podcasts. Why do I need the radio?
Speaker 1: Why do I need tell? You know? I don't need
Speaker 1: to on fallon? And I was a little wrong on that.
Speaker 1: Um I was off five, but I think it would
Speaker 1: help him in the extra four million copies maybe. But um,
Speaker 1: what are some of the titles here? Uh? Fu By
Speaker 1: when he hits Yeah, it's a big one. That's got
Speaker 1: eaten p and kicking a Yeah, that's fan favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that was that was the one that broke. That
Speaker 1: was the one that uh, that was what got us
Speaker 1: our tony redneck s um blank on my face, which
Speaker 1: is actually you make it sound worse. Ah, let's see
Speaker 1: better off beating off. There's that. That's that. That's one
Speaker 1: I can say that you can say radio. The thing is,
Speaker 1: we can say whatever we want. It's just if you say, hey,
Speaker 1: you have thirty minutes to go outside and play Give
Speaker 1: a Kick thirty they really have like forty five. If
Speaker 1: I tell Eddie to get to work it four thirty,
Speaker 1: he's really got to four. So I was like, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: we have big sponsors. You know, you can't come in here.
Speaker 1: I see you're putting your videos on you know, explicit websites. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's the thing too, is um Well, my thing
Speaker 1: is always for people to just be honest to who
Speaker 1: they are. That's why I what I I appreciate you
Speaker 1: that the fact that you don't cust in your your
Speaker 1: life and don't cost on the like, to me, that's
Speaker 1: being authentic. That's to who you are. You know, it'd
Speaker 1: be different if I don't like the guys who are
Speaker 1: just really I don't have as much problem as the guys.
Speaker 1: It was just really clean in real life, and then
Speaker 1: it were some crazy persona on air that would bother me,
Speaker 1: probably just as much. I think the first time we met,
Speaker 1: do you remember start taking that CMT s right, yeah,
Speaker 1: c m T Awards and you had just put out
Speaker 1: your first record. Yeah, and I'd ripped. I had ripped
Speaker 1: on you quite a bit on a on a I
Speaker 1: was gonna say on Twitter, but probably everything yeah and everything.
Speaker 1: But to me, that's funny, like if I find it
Speaker 1: when someone makes the time to put me in their heart,
Speaker 1: good or bad. Well you want the first The first
Speaker 1: thing that I became aware of you that got me
Speaker 1: push me on the other side is in a I
Speaker 1: usually listen to. I don't like other people's opinions of people,
Speaker 1: except when I hear the same thing over and over.
Speaker 1: And I kept hearing a lot of people say, you
Speaker 1: know your name coming up is like, you know, he
Speaker 1: likes to push buttons. I go after Like the fourth
Speaker 1: person said that, I was like, I got the I got.
Speaker 1: I've picked this guy wrong, you know, because I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of you as this you know, goody goody pushing pop
Speaker 1: I mean posh pushing you know pop country onto the world.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that's wrong. Though, to
Speaker 1: be fair, I don't know that you were wrong about that.
Speaker 1: Well the button pusher part, which I don't know about,
Speaker 1: which is what intrigued me. Which is and maybe you
Speaker 1: could tell explained to me where that that reputation came from.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a button push your thing. I
Speaker 1: think what happens if you just say how you feel
Speaker 1: enough people get piste off. You give enough opinions, eventually
Speaker 1: you're going to make someone upset. This is the world
Speaker 1: of opinions anymore. It's either have all the opinions or
Speaker 1: none of the opinions. You'd obviously angered enough people that,
Speaker 1: um it came back to me that I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk to this dude because he's he's
Speaker 1: anyone who angers people is like, I want to meet
Speaker 1: I don't anger people. Didn't for the sake of angering people,
Speaker 1: angry people just because I haven't. If you're angering people
Speaker 1: just because you're being honest, then that's why. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what I did. I don't I don't set out
Speaker 1: to make anybody that ever, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: listen to that person. I don't want to listen to
Speaker 1: someone on the radio who's worried about everything. They're gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But then again, I don't do it
Speaker 1: on purpose. But I've been in a few and I
Speaker 1: have people, but I've really got into fights with them
Speaker 1: buddies with that now, you know, because it's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, and probably went over a little bit, or
Speaker 1: you probably were a little too sensitive and now we're
Speaker 1: cool exactly. Well, my my favorite one is I went
Speaker 1: real hard especially, I mean at the beginning, I went
Speaker 1: real hard on at Old Dominion, and they tweeted back
Speaker 1: something to me that I thought was funnier. I was like,
Speaker 1: well they win. I'm never gonna I'm never gonna do
Speaker 1: anything to them again. You know, like, you can't make
Speaker 1: fun of someone if they'd make fun of the Ruins,
Speaker 1: it's the eight mile, Like Eminem, you go at yourself.
Speaker 1: There's nothing else to say. Yeah, I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: I go. I don't know that I'm gonna listening to
Speaker 1: Old Dominion all night, but I ain't gonna make fun
Speaker 1: of them again. You know who do you like? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously other than the old stuff. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think who's out there right now? You know who
Speaker 1: your audience wouldn't know. It's not that like Margot Price
Speaker 1: has played the show. Yeah, I love I love Brandy
Speaker 1: and you had her on. I love um, I love
Speaker 1: really like John Party, um like Stapleton obviously obviously all
Speaker 1: of America does. And uh, you know I'm Sturgil, you know,
Speaker 1: and is Bill who? These are something? I guess maybe
Speaker 1: some of the Outsiders that Europe is. My favorite is
Speaker 1: someone you actually you had on your show, which I
Speaker 1: love that you had her on. My favorite album the
Speaker 1: probably the past year or so was Laurie McKenna's album Yeah,
Speaker 1: Burton the Rifle, Yeah I got. I love that record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had her on as a writer and an artist
Speaker 1: because I love it. I love it so much. But kids,
Speaker 1: you know she writes everything. Yeah, that's a new thing
Speaker 1: that It's been really cool lately a lot of these
Speaker 1: songwriters have kind of been putting out their own records.
Speaker 1: That because Lorie's records great, Natalie Hemby's record is great.
Speaker 1: It's because, you know, because being around you know, I
Speaker 1: hear their demos and I you always wonder, like, why
Speaker 1: don't you put out a record? And that Pete they're
Speaker 1: finally starting to do it. I love when that happens.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not as angry right now as I
Speaker 1: thought you might be. Yeah, I don't. People are always
Speaker 1: surprised because usually unless I just got someone just got
Speaker 1: angry at me when I walked in. I'm not in
Speaker 1: a bad mood because I've done interviews where I just
Speaker 1: got like one recently, I just found out because my
Speaker 1: album is now banned from Walmart. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get it wrong. I don't care if I get wrong.
Speaker 1: Actually Walmart cam Art best I think. And I just
Speaker 1: got that news right before an interview last week, and
Speaker 1: the whole interview was angry. But right now, do you
Speaker 1: see that coming? Like, don't you make it and go,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get banned it probably eighty percent of
Speaker 1: the places. Yeah, but I thought I was gonna have
Speaker 1: a chance of beating this Luke Combs jerk. But um,
Speaker 1: it's just it. I mean, yeah, I know what you're saying,
Speaker 1: which is it's weird for me to really Um, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't be seriously mad about it. You know. It's
Speaker 1: not like I can't call up a publicist or manager
Speaker 1: and go, how in the world did that happen? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not that dumb, although I'm pretty dumb, But um,
Speaker 1: I try because I really want to. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Other thing people don't believe about it. I really want
Speaker 1: to compete with these guys. And I could say it's
Speaker 1: not fair, you know, it's not a level playing field,
Speaker 1: but I did. I did it to myself. You know,
Speaker 1: when you have pornographic titles on a record, like you're
Speaker 1: gonna be in places if they don't want take pornographic anything.
Speaker 1: Oh totally yeah, I mean, I um, but you can
Speaker 1: use it you and you do use it your advantage,
Speaker 1: like it's a fun game you play where it's like
Speaker 1: I'm banned here. Uh, let's go to their website and
Speaker 1: trash it. Yeah, I mean, I think the part that
Speaker 1: angers me is when, because I know it's people listening
Speaker 1: right now are laughing at me, that I want to
Speaker 1: be taken seriously as an artist with titles like that.
Speaker 1: But to me, especially the new records, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say serious things, but in the way that I talk
Speaker 1: because I cursed all I want to talk, and I
Speaker 1: just I want to sing the way I talk. So
Speaker 1: it would be untrue to myself to sing instead of
Speaker 1: fub is seeing you know, love you girl, you know,
Speaker 1: miss you girl, or something. It wouldn't it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: how I It's not my natural inclination to do it
Speaker 1: like that. So I don't know. I don't people know
Speaker 1: anything about your history that where'd you grow up. I'm
Speaker 1: from Kentucky, all right, so you grew up a Kentucky
Speaker 1: But I love it here and I've most of my
Speaker 1: families from here. By the way, this isn't I was
Speaker 1: just saying this is a must be noon new area
Speaker 1: in Nashville house. Well, I'm saying this area. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: won't say exactly what the area. They get too many
Speaker 1: people come about with guns. I was gonna say kind
Speaker 1: of about the address. I'll tweet the addressing, tweet a
Speaker 1: picture in the front of the house. Um, so you
Speaker 1: grew up with Kentucky. Like, are you a real I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how good are you are musically? Um? Like,
Speaker 1: are you do you consider yourself like an A level musician?
Speaker 1: B level musician? Well, anyone who just strumps and sings.
Speaker 1: I mean my albums both albums were recorded live um
Speaker 1: to tape, you know. So anything you're hearing is me.
Speaker 1: There's no auto tune, there's no you know, the second one,
Speaker 1: especially there. I didn't rerecord any lines, you know, So
Speaker 1: what you're hearing on the album is is who I am. So, um,
Speaker 1: don't you wanna give me like a guitar to have
Speaker 1: me give me a test here? No? I just want
Speaker 1: to because again I see your your first record, which
Speaker 1: I did listen to all and I think it's really funny.
Speaker 1: It's the thing it's not. It's not fun I would
Speaker 1: put out, but I think it's really funny that redneck
Speaker 1: s s is an expert, so you put it out.
Speaker 1: And I remember sitting the studio with Addie, my producer,
Speaker 1: listening to songs, laughing a lot. They go on, man,
Speaker 1: this is funny, but people listen to it to go
Speaker 1: is this guy even real? Like do you like do
Speaker 1: you really play? Yeah? These songs? Well, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: Well I didn't want to be on the comedy charts,
Speaker 1: and I got I got an argument with the people
Speaker 1: who distributed my record. They called me up and like
Speaker 1: tell me, because to me it was I want to
Speaker 1: only want to be on the country charts. And we
Speaker 1: got in a big argument like it's not comedy, don't
Speaker 1: put it and they're streaming like I'm not on the comedy,
Speaker 1: don't put me on the comedy charts. And halfway through
Speaker 1: the argument I realized it. By the way before, I
Speaker 1: keep yelling and you know, blowing out my voice, what
Speaker 1: number am I on the comedy charts? And they're like
Speaker 1: number one. I was like, all right, keep me on
Speaker 1: the comedy charts. You know because to me it's not.
Speaker 1: It's to me it's really serious stuff that I'm singing about.
Speaker 1: I'm just using bad words. You know it's not. But
Speaker 1: how was that serious that you're singing about? For example,
Speaker 1: in the song ah, let's see fighting, Well, that's about
Speaker 1: you picked the worst one. Yet I'm just picking one
Speaker 1: fighting and farting and nothing with fart I mean that one.
Speaker 1: I want that was the worst one, that you picked
Speaker 1: the worst one, because anything with farting is not gonna
Speaker 1: be serious. But so that was your one moving to comedy,
Speaker 1: that's all. That was your one. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's my one moving to comedy, but it was all
Speaker 1: of It's kind of an f you to to Nashville
Speaker 1: to music rows. Okay, that's interesting. So you're angry at
Speaker 1: the whole establishment, which I am too. When I got
Speaker 1: into the studio, I'm like, I'm unsuccessful, and this is
Speaker 1: my middle finger to music. Row in my middle and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the song so catchy and good that
Speaker 1: people are gonna have to listen to them, and no
Speaker 1: matter how dirty they are, I'm gonna sell. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: out sell all these guys, which I didn't do so
Speaker 1: I failed, but I'm gonna out sell these guys with filth.
Speaker 1: How high on their country chart? Did you ever get
Speaker 1: debuted a number nine? Which wasn't bad? I mean, we're
Speaker 1: you know, I was expecting number nine hundreds, so especially
Speaker 1: for a first record. So I mean, by the way,
Speaker 1: lad as a podcast you canna listen to. It's very
Speaker 1: vulgar and dirty. I actually recommend you don't listen to it. So,
Speaker 1: but it's it exists, it's weird, it's ante that long.
Speaker 1: I've already gotten a lot of non recommendations. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you want, though, it's like being kicked out of stores.
Speaker 1: Like if you you'd rather have people non recommended, then
Speaker 1: not mention it. Yeah, like I encourage people not to
Speaker 1: check it out. Yeah, and while you while you're at it,
Speaker 1: don't listen to Bobby Bones. Yes, that's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have those and people saying listen to it.
Speaker 1: Because I bought a bunch of billboards and didn't tell
Speaker 1: anybody about it, and they all said go away Bobby Bones,
Speaker 1: and I hit it for years into a book and
Speaker 1: everyone thought certain artists that bought them are record labels,
Speaker 1: and I put up all over town, huge billboards. It's
Speaker 1: a go away Bobby Bones, that's it. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: good Now you got me thinking, yeah, And so everyone
Speaker 1: was like, who's upset of Bobby? Is it? This artist
Speaker 1: that I had to fight with? Is that this record label?
Speaker 1: Is that the other ready of stations? And forever they
Speaker 1: stayed and nobody knew until I put on my book
Speaker 1: and the people were pisted, like Flora George Line went
Speaker 1: on satellite and bash me because they were like, ain't
Speaker 1: putting up billboards about himself? Not understanding? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't put them up about me. I did put
Speaker 1: them up about me, but in your own controversy. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's it. Controversies all I love controversy. Yeah, well, you
Speaker 1: know these billboards still up. Let's get some fill, but
Speaker 1: they cost too much. I have to leave up. That's
Speaker 1: the thing is because I put my albums out of myself,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of ideas that don't ever that
Speaker 1: we can't pay for because it costs too much money.
Speaker 1: Let me talk about you get commercials in your podcast yet, no,
Speaker 1: we got we gotta offer. Some dog food company wanted
Speaker 1: to do it, and then I had that. I told
Speaker 1: him my idea what I wanted to do with the
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Speaker 1: you married, by the way, No girlfriend? All right, Oh
Speaker 1: that's right, you have X wife. She's somebody sings on
Speaker 1: your record as your ex wife, but it's not really
Speaker 1: your ex wife. Right. Well, my ex wife's did sing
Speaker 1: on it, but then she took her name off, she
Speaker 1: took her vocals off, but we'd already made the artwork,
Speaker 1: so her name's on it. But it's a country singer
Speaker 1: I love called Nicki. Her name is Nicky Lane. She
Speaker 1: sings on the track and it's it's uh, that one's
Speaker 1: called cheating. I'm just calling from my head. What's what's
Speaker 1: it called. It's called messing or messing her, but it's
Speaker 1: but it's the dirty word of messing around. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. Effing around. Yeah, that was why I did
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Speaker 1: like right over there. Really, can I take it for
Speaker 1: a test? Dride whatever. I'd like to meet some of
Speaker 1: the girls on your radio show. They look. Am I
Speaker 1: wrong to say that I started? I think I followed
Speaker 1: on Twitter or something or Instagram? Is a lot of
Speaker 1: the girls who are on your show? Might wrong? Just
Speaker 1: say that there's a lot of attractive women on your show? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think everybody in our show keeps himself a pretty
Speaker 1: good shape. Who what are the women? Women names? Again?
Speaker 1: Amy is my man host? Yeah? No, na a, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I thought she's very really pretty. I saw picture
Speaker 1: of her. She tweeted out some article she wants some
Speaker 1: award or something, and then said I always noticed this stuff.
Speaker 1: Or sayce she said she graduated college when she was
Speaker 1: like twelve years old. I mean not twelve, but it
Speaker 1: was something crazy. I'm like you guys in the high
Speaker 1: school like fifteen or sixteen and in college, I'd like
Speaker 1: to find a real smart woman, you know, to bounce
Speaker 1: me out. How do you tell girls about your Like
Speaker 1: if they say, hey, what do you do for a living?
Speaker 1: You talk about this this music. Um, you know, what
Speaker 1: I've noticed is the best thing for with with with
Speaker 1: girls about the Wheeler stuff is as you're you're seeing
Speaker 1: that this side of me, which is if you put
Speaker 1: out music like this and you're not a complete, um degenerate,
Speaker 1: they think they reached, you know, they got past the
Speaker 1: dark side and the soft cuddy inside, which is not
Speaker 1: that hard to get to. So they think I'm some
Speaker 1: crazy bad dude, and then they I can surprise them
Speaker 1: by being nice and it kind of works. What was
Speaker 1: it that I do so mad at everybody? Like in Nashville, Like,
Speaker 1: what what was it? It said? I think, Uh, the
Speaker 1: one word I use is failure. You know, your failure,
Speaker 1: My failure. Yeah. I spent a lot of time trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, make it and it just didn't happen. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, I had some record company issues and
Speaker 1: I had UM, I had some bad deals I signed.
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, your career
Speaker 1: is your fault. But I was just so angry. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this anger onto onto a record. And
Speaker 1: my hope being UM, that are there people out there
Speaker 1: who as angry as me and like listen to the
Speaker 1: kind of music which I think you know, they answered
Speaker 1: to a lot of angry people around America right now.
Speaker 1: So you you go out and you're doing a whole
Speaker 1: uh wheeler tour. Yeah, we're doing a tour. We're doing
Speaker 1: a three dates the week of the release, and then
Speaker 1: we're waiting a couple of weeks and we're gonna do uh,
Speaker 1: I guess, like a whole another tour. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you get this a lot with your when you tour,
Speaker 1: right when people just when you announce the tour, all
Speaker 1: yours like eight million comments, why aren't you coming to
Speaker 1: my city? It's like, anyhow touring works, you know. I
Speaker 1: wanted to explain that to people and people just think
Speaker 1: you pick cities. Yeah, and you don't really just go
Speaker 1: I think I'll go there. We'll just think about like
Speaker 1: if I was a kid and like what I tweet Actel,
Speaker 1: you know, come to so in Kentucky? You know, like
Speaker 1: in acts would reading go tell his major? This guy
Speaker 1: Wheeler wants us to play a lesson and make sure
Speaker 1: it happens, Like, well, what do the thing is gonna happen?
Speaker 1: And now we're booked in l A one, but let's
Speaker 1: go to lex to this day. I mean, we don't
Speaker 1: want we don't meant this little kid Wheeler, we don't
Speaker 1: mess up mess with him. So um yeah, it drives me.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like you think your real country
Speaker 1: and you ain't playing in Texas. I'm like, they didn't
Speaker 1: rub me to Texas, wait me to do and there
Speaker 1: wasn't a venue available in the area that I could
Speaker 1: get to in time. Yeah, what I didn't call up?
Speaker 1: Let's do a tour and make sure we stay out
Speaker 1: of Texas. Do you know a lot of country artists
Speaker 1: stay out of Texas really because of the Texas country scene. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's all I know. I was
Speaker 1: gonna see the options. I know artists who really don't
Speaker 1: leave Texas and that's why, because what happens is some
Speaker 1: of the Texas artists will vilify the Nashville artists. So
Speaker 1: in the Nashville artists going to Texas, they've been trained
Speaker 1: by the Texas country artists that that's all bad. That's
Speaker 1: interesting because we actually actually had a good time doing
Speaker 1: Texas on the last were But yeah, it's funny. It's
Speaker 1: funny for you to say that, because not I forget
Speaker 1: that I'm in Nashville because I'm such an outslayer that
Speaker 1: I am to that I'm a Nashville artist still, which
Speaker 1: I you know, I just have no pride take pride
Speaker 1: in that. But um yeah, I guess you would get
Speaker 1: territorial because I've heard before that there are people who
Speaker 1: make millions of dollars just in Texas. Just I want
Speaker 1: to say millions. Very comfortable. I would say, Also, you
Speaker 1: only gotta you gotta you know you have to buy
Speaker 1: a house in Texas that you're gonna cost that much
Speaker 1: and you don't want to buy a house in Texas. Listen,
Speaker 1: I live in Austin for it's the greatest. And when
Speaker 1: I go and we play Texas it's awesome for us
Speaker 1: because weird Mike's everybody's Texan. I grew up in Arkansas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that because the basketball battles be battles. Really
Speaker 1: about that too, by the way, Yeah, well, thank well.
Speaker 1: I'm very passionate about Kentucky basketball and I'm and I
Speaker 1: make no apologies about it. But it's also the one
Speaker 1: thing that I can make fun of people and I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna win. It's only one of the few arguments
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna win. Kentucky basketball is a thing.
Speaker 1: This music and the new record comes out Jean second
Speaker 1: Old Wheeler. It's called what's the difference in the First
Speaker 1: Record and the Second Record? To me, the second record
Speaker 1: is well, the main thing is the second records better?
Speaker 1: And it's um to me, it's really more focused because
Speaker 1: it's a you know, it's a famous thing. The first records.
Speaker 1: You's got twenty years to make the first record in
Speaker 1: six months to make the second record. But I used
Speaker 1: that to my advantage and made it much more focused.
Speaker 1: Second records really about everything that happened from the first
Speaker 1: record to the second record. So it's really um a,
Speaker 1: it's really a snapshot of that portion of my life.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it was it's an album about
Speaker 1: I call a wheeler because it's an album about growing old.
Speaker 1: You know, this new world that we're living in right now,
Speaker 1: I feel like a man out of time, you know,
Speaker 1: like going to gigs and girls asking me from my
Speaker 1: snapchat and I don't even know what that, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what what I got it now, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what at the time, just you know, trying
Speaker 1: to play this type of music in this new world
Speaker 1: was very strange to me and being you know, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it, you know, being I felt like
Speaker 1: I was too old, Like why wasn't I doing this?
Speaker 1: Why didn't this happen when I was twenty three? You know,
Speaker 1: why didn't happen you were twenty three? What were doing
Speaker 1: at twenty three? Um? I was just about you know,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I was just stepping on my own feet.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get out my own way, you know. So
Speaker 1: it was probably a lot of um and a lot
Speaker 1: of insecurity, and a lot of blaming things and other people,
Speaker 1: you know, like a labeled big deal goes bad and I,
Speaker 1: you know, say it's their fault when I actually actually
Speaker 1: you know, the songs weren't you know, it wasn't good.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think people are gonna hear this
Speaker 1: and hear a more sensitive side. You bring it out
Speaker 1: of me. But Wheeler, Yeah, I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: come in right a lot me on fire. No, I
Speaker 1: mean seen looking forward forward to it a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I could, but I mean I wasn't. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I wasn't expecting is coming in and
Speaker 1: having you tell people not to buy my record or
Speaker 1: to listen to my podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I think people
Speaker 1: shouldn't yeah anymore anymore. Great, but they should sleep on
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Speaker 1: with the Luke Combs having the number one and maybe
Speaker 1: suck a little bit out of you know, like you
Speaker 1: thought you had a shot at beating and well, that's
Speaker 1: the thing is I've kind of I don't know if
Speaker 1: you noticed. My thing was to kind of battle him
Speaker 1: to the top of the charts. Now he's gonna number
Speaker 1: one song, it's gonna be impossible. So that battle may
Speaker 1: have already been been one. But may I lose the battle,
Speaker 1: but win the war. Let's check back in a year.
Speaker 1: And so you sold more. I saw you. I'm playing
Speaker 1: it too. I saw you're playing Faster Horses and that
Speaker 1: was real because you've done the fake things were like,
Speaker 1: look look at Wheeler I'm starting wheeler Fest. I started.
Speaker 1: I put out a thing called on April Fools. I
Speaker 1: announced wheeler Fest with a bunch of huge artists and
Speaker 1: wheeler Fest dot Com go there for tickets and it
Speaker 1: just had an expletive that led you to preorder my
Speaker 1: new record. And people are supps still mad, you know,
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, and yeah, I was like, that's
Speaker 1: your fault. There's no place to buy tickets. How are
Speaker 1: you gonna go book a vacation on somewhere there's no tickets,
Speaker 1: But yeah, faster Horses, And uh, there was another one.
Speaker 1: I forget what it was. Um, yeah, they're having me
Speaker 1: on late night spots. I guess, you know, adult entertainment,
Speaker 1: although you know these guys. I guess people are getting
Speaker 1: roundy around midnight. I guess I can go on after
Speaker 1: the headliners done, I'm gonna play. I think it's what
Speaker 1: they're saying, that's that would be the headliner. Then of
Speaker 1: the headliner, Well, that's what I said, and that means
Speaker 1: I'm the headliner. They said, no, no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: say that, And I thought at first it may be
Speaker 1: a joke, just because it's what you do. You put
Speaker 1: things out there. Well, I like making enough, like making
Speaker 1: up enough stuff so no one knows what's real. Like
Speaker 1: if I put out number one country album in America,
Speaker 1: I like that people wouldn't even believe me. Haven't you
Speaker 1: noticed that anything that's put online is just fact until
Speaker 1: it's proven otherwise. By the time it's proven otherwise, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's already people's heads. It's fact. We sat
Speaker 1: with the last election. Yeah, I mean, it'sn't it's it's
Speaker 1: true because when you see it, something in like the
Speaker 1: right font, because it looks like what old media used
Speaker 1: to look like. It's just like it was written down
Speaker 1: on my computer. It must be true, you know, It's
Speaker 1: like because I was trying to to um, it looks
Speaker 1: like it's not gonna happen, But I tried to because
Speaker 1: a lot of the this election was a lot about
Speaker 1: fake news and about all that stuff, and so I
Speaker 1: wanted to plant a fake news story about Wheeler, like
Speaker 1: kind of like your Bobby bone, like the Billboard thing.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get a crazy story about myself, playing
Speaker 1: the news that went viral and plant like, you know,
Speaker 1: like that pizza place, what was that thing called pizza
Speaker 1: Gate something like that about me and have it go big.
Speaker 1: Not like that though, not like that. Now. I was
Speaker 1: like a sex I didn't want to get in anybody
Speaker 1: in trouble, but I wanted to. Can I tell you
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do, as long as you don't
Speaker 1: feel like you're running it for later use, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I might want to do it, so I'll keep it
Speaker 1: to myself. But it was something. It was something bad
Speaker 1: that happened to me, and I wanted people I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. I wanted to hire someone to put out
Speaker 1: fake news about me. But it's hard to find these,
Speaker 1: you know, these dudes stay pretty underground. Yeah, they're mostly
Speaker 1: from other countries. Yeah, they are. They all the ones
Speaker 1: I've been finding. It's like I gotta pay them in
Speaker 1: you know, some weird kind of bitcoin. Bitcoin. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. I don't have a lot of bitcoin.
Speaker 1: How's that bitcoin thing work? Basically, you take money and
Speaker 1: you it's a currency exchange. It's just like any other dollar,
Speaker 1: but it goes up it does it like a stock point? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought I may have to if
Speaker 1: my computer gets hit by one of these malware viruses,
Speaker 1: because they did the whole cyber attack and they hit
Speaker 1: all the UK. It's they have FedEx in the United States,
Speaker 1: but all the computers will pop up and it would say, boom,
Speaker 1: we got you. We need three hundred dollars. And what
Speaker 1: you can do is send it to bitcoin. To send
Speaker 1: it to this address. You can't track the addressing bitcoin.
Speaker 1: It's not a real post office box. So it's it's
Speaker 1: how hackers are making money right now. I think they
Speaker 1: made a couple of billion dollars. If someone hacked me
Speaker 1: and they said three inner bucks will unhack you, I'd
Speaker 1: pay you in to seconds. So what I would be
Speaker 1: some way like Durnner Bucks. But how do I know that?
Speaker 1: I gotta come back at me again. And even then,
Speaker 1: you can't be like, here's my credit card, you know,
Speaker 1: take three you know in bitcoin exactly. Yeah, that's I'll
Speaker 1: get bitcoin for that. I get unhacked, I save them
Speaker 1: off files, and I throw that computer away. So you
Speaker 1: you got you bought the bitcoins to get ready for that.
Speaker 1: I'm a whole closet full of bitcoin. It's not a
Speaker 1: real thing, is not a tangible Bitcoin's intangible thing. It's
Speaker 1: it's a bitcoins like credit. So they can't throw it
Speaker 1: to you onto your own stage when you're playing. They
Speaker 1: don't asked to get paid. I can't, can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't put bitcoin in a girl's bottom.
Speaker 1: And I'm at the club. You can't know. Are you
Speaker 1: expecting people to come to your shows? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's the point. That's why I'm doing it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Exit in sold out. Um, we're doing three shows
Speaker 1: that week, and I think it's Exit. It's Nashville doing
Speaker 1: Exit in uh New York Bowery Ballroom and troubad Or
Speaker 1: in l A. I think they're all sold out. New
Speaker 1: York might be you have some tickets, but um, they're
Speaker 1: buying tickets, so that's my thing. I'm playing the shows
Speaker 1: as long as people buy tickets. You're gonna Is this
Speaker 1: the thing you're gonna stick to doing? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: try for album three, four or five? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: it always comes up. Well, I always gonna stay one
Speaker 1: step ahead of them. But unfortunately, like I'm thinking, like
Speaker 1: you know, like the biggest trick I could play right
Speaker 1: now would be to come out with like a clean record,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that. I want. You know, that
Speaker 1: would shock everyone. But is that really the game I
Speaker 1: want to play? I don't know. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you find artists are trying to be your friends?
Speaker 1: You don't attack them? Yeah, I mean I will. I
Speaker 1: won't name their name, but I think people would be
Speaker 1: surprised what country artists have come out privately to me
Speaker 1: through whoever. Like, I just want to let you know
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Like no, I don't want nothing about
Speaker 1: I want you to open a show. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see d I don't want to agreh and just
Speaker 1: want to let you know I'm a fan. I think
Speaker 1: what you just said is the reason why I think
Speaker 1: what they're saying is to leave me, leave me alone.
Speaker 1: But I've met a lot of these dude, you know,
Speaker 1: the big the big guys who are fans of mine.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, can you tweet about it? We're a
Speaker 1: T shirt or something. It doesn't help me. If you're
Speaker 1: a big star and you're a fan, you keep it
Speaker 1: to yourself. Spit it out, dude. To be fair, I
Speaker 1: retweet you when I can because I think it's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good about that. You don't, I mean, you don't care.
Speaker 1: Aubrey Sellers is a big fan. She's a friend I love.
Speaker 1: I love Aubrey. You guess she's really good. She came
Speaker 1: in with singing your praises. Yeah, and I think it's
Speaker 1: a you know, um, I don't think it. It's gonna
Speaker 1: In fact, you you're you're you know Stapleton in my podcast,
Speaker 1: So he's obviously not worried about it. But it's not
Speaker 1: gonna affect your sales, isn't you know? You know, like
Speaker 1: if I could see why, you know, like Luke Bryan
Speaker 1: ain't canna cover fu b But if he said in
Speaker 1: an interview that he was a fan of mine, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna He's not gonna go broke, you know, but
Speaker 1: why would it benefit him to say he's a fan
Speaker 1: of something that could cost him money. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just want. I just want people like that to
Speaker 1: say it. I want. I can't argue why. I can't
Speaker 1: argue why people like that shouldn't say. I mean, I
Speaker 1: understand why they're not, but I want still who publicly
Speaker 1: has been the biggest person to Counting go. I enjoy
Speaker 1: Wiler Walker Jr. Publicly. Um, if we're just playing a
Speaker 1: pure numbers game, I would say I did the Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan podcast because he was a fan of Holy Mackerel.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, And that's bigger than SNL. That's
Speaker 1: Beard is a night show. He uh. Someone told me
Speaker 1: some of his his podcasts get up to ten million downloads,
Speaker 1: So that's bigger than network TV. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The new which I don't need to explain to you,
Speaker 1: we're doing it right now, but this new media is
Speaker 1: it's crazy what you can do out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think if you were a new artist, I think
Speaker 1: going on Joe Rogan would be a better use of
Speaker 1: your time than SNL. Honestly, I understand the prestige of it.
Speaker 1: But as far as what's going to move the needle,
Speaker 1: I think they go that those numbers are just getting
Speaker 1: so big. Right Now, here's the difference, because I agree
Speaker 1: with you, Like, if I had something to promote and
Speaker 1: it was me and I already had a name, I
Speaker 1: would try to go on Joe Rogan because he has
Speaker 1: such a first of all, it's hilarious exactly, he is
Speaker 1: such a loyal if when he says it's good, they
Speaker 1: go by. You know. The difference is when you do
Speaker 1: a SNL, it's not so much to sell, it's to
Speaker 1: sell your peers that they should sell you so it
Speaker 1: verifies you. Yeah, So when it's like the blue check
Speaker 1: on your Twitter. When Maren goes on SNL, I don't
Speaker 1: think SNL sold a bunch of records for her. But
Speaker 1: then some more people were like, oh let me, okay,
Speaker 1: I should get in on this, and the next thing
Speaker 1: you see time you see you in the paper, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know her. So I think they're used for different things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But as far as just moving units, I think nowadays
Speaker 1: podcasts and all these other weirds. Because my thing is
Speaker 1: I like to always say yet like this guy. His
Speaker 1: name is Jehovah Jehovah I would assume not his birth name,
Speaker 1: but he plays video games on the on YouTube and
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, man, I've never done a podcast before,
Speaker 1: but would you skype in? I would like to try
Speaker 1: a podcast, And he has a head a million YouTube followers,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah, just to do a podcast
Speaker 1: and you know, half a million people listen to it.
Speaker 1: Just be open to that, you know, I like to
Speaker 1: be open to that kind of stuff. I'll talk to thee.
Speaker 1: What happened was he was playing my he was playing
Speaker 1: video games while and singing my songs while he was playing,
Speaker 1: and people were listening liked watching him play video games
Speaker 1: while he's saying my songs. Because we were noticing a
Speaker 1: lot of people mentioning Jehovah on my videos. I'm like,
Speaker 1: our people finding God while you mean, it turns out
Speaker 1: this this this uh, this gamer guy was so there's
Speaker 1: like there's unlimited ways to now promote yourself. That's just
Speaker 1: so strange, you know, um, other than I mean, they
Speaker 1: used to be radio only and now it's well, I
Speaker 1: guess I should ask you your opinion on that. Being
Speaker 1: a radio guy like does that worry you or do you? Well?
Speaker 1: I do everything else, so it's all I guess. I
Speaker 1: think it's cool that you do radio. I don't like
Speaker 1: I want to compliment you too much because it roun
Speaker 1: my image, But that you're doing the podcast with the
Speaker 1: radio thing, I think there's there are a million ways
Speaker 1: to promote yourself. I tell artists all the time, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you don't have to have radio to succeed. Well, that's
Speaker 1: why I started the podcast because they were all these
Speaker 1: podcasts helped me out. Was like, wouldn't it be easy
Speaker 1: if I just did my own and then my podcast
Speaker 1: will help me out? But I'm not getting rogue numbers,
Speaker 1: so you won't until you do. It's just I mean
Speaker 1: even for I, I mean before we hit seven figures,
Speaker 1: it took forty episodes. Well you haven't had me on yet.
Speaker 1: This one probably break the all, so can I I'll
Speaker 1: answer you much out radio right now in our format
Speaker 1: and country radio moves and need more than anything else does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's my problem. That's that's where I'm hurting myself.
Speaker 1: And that's why Luck Luke komb singing about the weather's outside,
Speaker 1: so he's me doing a tie in with the Weather
Speaker 1: Channel is there? So I gotta beat this guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't playing country music and doing a
Speaker 1: tie in with the Weather Channel. You're saying that's not country.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. But like, you know, hey, man, you gotta
Speaker 1: check out this new artist on the Weather Channel. No,
Speaker 1: I would be like, you know, man, that's enough. Shut up?
Speaker 1: What about who? While Walker Senior? That's my dad and
Speaker 1: who now wishes he'd called me Carl. He's nothing too
Speaker 1: happy about it, just because he doesn't call himself wheel Walker,
Speaker 1: so years called himself We have a walk and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you must be relations Like, don't even bring it up.
Speaker 1: You know, giving your mom and I headache. You know
Speaker 1: it's enough already. So I actually did my first interview.
Speaker 1: I didn't interview with an Alabama paper last week. They
Speaker 1: won't interview my dad to me and my dad both
Speaker 1: got on a conference call and talked to this guy.
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to read this article. Is me
Speaker 1: with my dad yelling at me for forty five minutes. Well,
Speaker 1: this guy tried to break up and fight, so we'll
Speaker 1: see how it comes out. It was like he was
Speaker 1: listening into a call from back in the day when
Speaker 1: you pick up the phone and two people are on
Speaker 1: it talking exactly and he's like, we have time for
Speaker 1: a question that my dad's yell and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle. We're in the middle. I'm in
Speaker 1: the middle of yelling at what's your mom think about this?
Speaker 1: She mean, she's she's such a sweetheart that she's you know, oh,
Speaker 1: you're selling records, you're selling tickets. Is good? But you know,
Speaker 1: what did I do wrong? Is? Really? I thought I
Speaker 1: raised you right? You know. I see your song is
Speaker 1: going for radio play next week. Yeah, it's going for
Speaker 1: radio ads. It's summer, summer. I can tuck you right.
Speaker 1: Some was in Kentucky. We're gonna see if people will
Speaker 1: have the colonies to play this thing. By the way,
Speaker 1: I can tell you the answer if you want to know.
Speaker 1: You know, they ain't gonna play it. But it's fun
Speaker 1: to try because I'm trying to play the game. But
Speaker 1: are you like trying to play the game again, You're
Speaker 1: doing the opposite that I got in trouble for. Like
Speaker 1: I didn't I in trou for not playing the game.
Speaker 1: I have a question well, you might be asking like,
Speaker 1: that's whatever you want? Are you? Are you? Do you
Speaker 1: get in trouble for playing a song where they're like,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed. I don't mean dirty, I'm just talking about, like,
Speaker 1: especially at first a lot. Here's here's a really good
Speaker 1: example for you. There was yeah the answers yes many
Speaker 1: times earlier in the first couple of years. And so
Speaker 1: there was an artist, it was mostly songwriter in town.
Speaker 1: So I called him. I was like, because I seen
Speaker 1: him on YouTube and I had some friends who had
Speaker 1: written with them a lot, and so I'm like, hey's regrets.
Speaker 1: I called him once and he was in the shower
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, man, let me call you right back.
Speaker 1: This is on the air. Calls me back. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: did you come up and play our show? And he
Speaker 1: didn't have song, didn't have a never record out. I've
Speaker 1: been in bands before, but he didn't have a song.
Speaker 1: He's promoting then, and so it came up and played
Speaker 1: and it was amazing. He left and said, hey, should
Speaker 1: come up again. Two weeks later, comes up, plays again, amazing.
Speaker 1: My boss calls, he goes, hey, we're getting complaints because
Speaker 1: this artist nobody knows who he is, and you're on
Speaker 1: in a hundred cities and you have the unknown artist
Speaker 1: that nobody and I was like, but he's so good
Speaker 1: does that even matter? And that was the argument, he's
Speaker 1: so good, he's so good. Played one more time and
Speaker 1: they're like, you have to stop having them on, so
Speaker 1: smash cut to about two months later, he's playing the
Speaker 1: Cima with Justin timber Lake. It's Chris Stapleton, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, okay, you know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna So basically they don't trust you to break new artists.
Speaker 1: They didn't, and that was the That was kind of
Speaker 1: the final pop. If I were you do you use
Speaker 1: as examples sometimes? But the thing is I didn't break Chris.
Speaker 1: But but I'm saying, look, but I guess my question
Speaker 1: is to them, it does them no good for you
Speaker 1: to break an artist, is what you're saying. It doesn't
Speaker 1: out because the artists that I've had in before, like
Speaker 1: I broke Jansen, Chris Jansen, like he even't even record label.
Speaker 1: When I played this song Cam she came in. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even her single. Burning House wasn't a single. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna show up at your station just start playing.
Speaker 1: We had Marin before her songs were even downloadable that
Speaker 1: it was just well, I thought it was cool, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I thought it was cool for you
Speaker 1: because like Lorie's albums on a really small label. I
Speaker 1: thought it was cool for you to have Lori and
Speaker 1: that was really cool. You know, getting that out there
Speaker 1: is cool because that's that obviously had to help. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of trouble at first, but then they
Speaker 1: started to say, okay, well he's he's batting pretty high
Speaker 1: and it's good for the company. Tucker Bethard, you know,
Speaker 1: his song wasn't even threw him on. So yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I don't even more. Now you're just rubbing it in
Speaker 1: about what what I could get if I if you
Speaker 1: just showed up with We've had artis show up with
Speaker 1: the guitarsist in the in the lobby and then get
Speaker 1: really upset they couldn't get in the studio. So I could,
Speaker 1: I could, I could play a clean version on my
Speaker 1: acoustic I clean version of what summers in Kentucky? Then
Speaker 1: why not make a clean version for radio? Because you
Speaker 1: know radio playing to act like a bad bad MF.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta go. But a bad m F
Speaker 1: doesn't get on the radio. And you don't need the radio.
Speaker 1: But a bad m F does not get on the radio.
Speaker 1: I know. I again, where were you two years ago
Speaker 1: when I when I was trying to do you know,
Speaker 1: what kind of song did you have two years ago?
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when I made the first record, if you
Speaker 1: told me make a clean version and I'll play it,
Speaker 1: I would have done it. But I just assumed no
Speaker 1: one was gonna play it anyway. That's why I didn't
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I'll come by place a clean version
Speaker 1: of Somers in Kentucky. But um, uh, you know uh,
Speaker 1: because I mean the other thing too, is it's hard
Speaker 1: because I'm doing New York Press next week and we're
Speaker 1: gonna do Stern I think, So it's like there, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna have to to do it. So then do
Speaker 1: I want to come back and do Rigor Radio and
Speaker 1: clean it up? My answers probably yeah, because I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta get this. I get I gotta get the this.
Speaker 1: Uh the lead singer of the Weather Channel off the charts.
Speaker 1: The fact that you're getting starting is pretty awesome. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I was psyched about it. I think to be honest.
Speaker 1: So we're doing I know, we're doing the after show show,
Speaker 1: and then I'm not sure, and then there was the
Speaker 1: possibility of doing the actual Stern maybe the week after.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I'm a huge fan. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love him. Yeah, even now, I don't know, do you
Speaker 1: I still do? Yeah? And I, Um, I did the
Speaker 1: I did the wrap up show last year and um
Speaker 1: sal and Richard gave me a tour the studio was
Speaker 1: like the best part of my whole my whole, the
Speaker 1: whole promo experience. Like I saw the studio, Howard's desk
Speaker 1: and everything, and I had a blast. It was like
Speaker 1: it was better than country music called thing for me.
Speaker 1: You meet Gary and John? Yeah, because she did the
Speaker 1: show with them, right. Yeah. You know I love about
Speaker 1: about the wrap up show is Gary and John. They'll
Speaker 1: come in arguing about it's you realize when you're there,
Speaker 1: this is real. They're arguing about what just happened on
Speaker 1: the air, and they sit down and just flip the
Speaker 1: mics on. They're going like, did you meet j D. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you get to meet it. I'm as you can say,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a super fan. Yeah, I met you. I
Speaker 1: hung out with j D a little bit sal Richard
Speaker 1: Um John Heine and uh hit him with the hind
Speaker 1: and uh uh and boba booie. Um. So it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a heck of a day for me. Satellite
Speaker 1: is playing some of your stuff. Yeah, all all countries
Speaker 1: playing it? Yeah, Al, who's the host? Mojo Nixon? Mojoe Nixon?
Speaker 1: Do you ever? Do you ever hear him? Growing up?
Speaker 1: He used to. He had a song that MTV played
Speaker 1: for a while. No, you know that's he. He had
Speaker 1: one called Elvis is Everywhere that people would play. And
Speaker 1: there's also that Dead Milkman song that they used to
Speaker 1: play on MTV a lot with a Dead Milkman. The
Speaker 1: song is called punk Rock Girl. He's just singing about
Speaker 1: punk rock Girl. It's like he's talking about the local
Speaker 1: record store. If you're if your story ain't got Mojoe
Speaker 1: Nixon and your store could use some fixing. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying his poetry, but that's how I first heard the
Speaker 1: name Mojoe Nixon. It was the guy in in the
Speaker 1: video was mad that the local record store was Karen
Speaker 1: Mojo all right. I was coming out of June second.
Speaker 1: I hope people that are of Mike, How would you
Speaker 1: say this? Who should we tell to check this record out?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of audience to listen to it prisoners, um, degenerates. Uh,
Speaker 1: people who hate Dylan Scott but also like to sell
Speaker 1: a copy of Dylant Scott's gotta buy it. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get him one. Um. If you like if you
Speaker 1: like country music and you like you don't and you
Speaker 1: like it, you're you like it your music uncensored, you know,
Speaker 1: that's this is what this is for you. If you
Speaker 1: don't mind the dirty words and you're sick of people
Speaker 1: trying to hold back with if you hate what you
Speaker 1: just heard, it's this album for you. It's the anti
Speaker 1: Dylant Scott. If people listen to this and yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: I don't like the music, but it is paying that
Speaker 1: ten bucks free record or whatever it is. Is that
Speaker 1: also paying? Is it? Is it money toward or against
Speaker 1: the current state of country music? Absolutely? That's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do. I'm trying to try to turn this
Speaker 1: into a war. All right. Uh, Wheeler Walker Jr. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna check you out and something
Speaker 1: they're gonna be mad at me for it, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: And Can I just say one thing. Don't blame don't
Speaker 1: blame Bobby. Don't yell at him. I did bring you
Speaker 1: up and put you on to be fair so they
Speaker 1: could blame me. I got blame for a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You know what. Blame Bobby. I don't care. I didn't care.
Speaker 1: All Right, Um, we're gonna go. We appreciate you coming by.
Speaker 1: Good luck with the record. Thanks man, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do an interview or I'm here. I'm doing press all day,
Speaker 1: so everybody wants to talk to you. He's taking the
Speaker 1: headphones off and he's he's done. We haven't even wrapped
Speaker 1: the show. He's out though, all right, Wheeler Walker Junior,
Speaker 1: Episode sixty Mike, all right, there he goes, all right, buddy,
Speaker 1: all right, he's out of here and he leaves the room.
Speaker 1: All right, weel Walker Junior, everybody, and he's he's out.