1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Welcome for Gang, and welcome to primetime on today's show. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: That's right, the Cardinals make their primetime debut coming up, 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: and really it's about time. There is no team playing 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: better than the Cardinals, but they will be tested on 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. Mike Jarecki has his three keys to victory. 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: What must happen for this team to run its record 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: day No, it's Cardinals Cover two, Episode four eighty six, 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts. 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Going for Hopkins One hand to catch in a muchdown 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. Well it's 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: not quite a football Friday, but MJ we've got a 15 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: game and a matter of hours. Thursday Night Football, the 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: first prime time telecast for the Arizona Cardinals. And I'll 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: say this, it's taken a while, but now what we 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: have seen through seven weeks, the rest of the nation 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: will be able to see exactly. And I always think 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were more of the more entertaining teams, kind 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: of can't miss Kyler Murray. And you know, obviously when 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: they're playing on a Sunday afternoon, whether it's at ten 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: am or one twenty five, you know a lot of 24 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: fans are watching the national games. But now they're going 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: to get the national platform here and so against a 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: really good opponent. No, I'm looking forward to it. I 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: anticipate we're going to see some Packer fans. I was 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: told they're bringing out their sponsors over two hundred and 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna play golf on Friday and lay at the pool. 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't see them going to the Washington State Arizona 31 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: State game, even though it sounds like Jalen Thompson's going 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: to be there anyway. So yeah, this is just you 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: know the fact that you got one team on a 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: six game winning streak, another out of seven thirteen and 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: one overall, I mean, you couldn't ask for a better matchup. 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: This game to me is bigger than the Bucks and 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks and Cowboys first week, and I think it's 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: bigger than the Bucks and the Patriots based just shine 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: one individual. It's just unfortunate that it's on a short 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: week because you would like these two teams to be 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: about as healthy as you possibly can here entering week eight, 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: and of course with the full preparation. But it is 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: what it is. The schedule makers, if you will, picked 44 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: a fine contest even before this season, but now thirteen 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: and one combined record between these two teams, and really, 46 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals certainly have the weights of the 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: NFC West on their shoulders because if you look Sunday 48 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: Night Football, forty nine Ers lost Monday Night Football Seahawks 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: lost now third straight primetime game feature in an NFC 50 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: West opponent. The Cardinals want to make sure that the 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: division does not go oh for as far as front 52 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: of a national television audience. But that's that's just us 53 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: thinking out loud, and it's good that the division was 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: featured a lot over the past several days. Yeah, it's interesting, 55 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: as I actually went back and looked at the according 56 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: to the prognosticators, whether it's Football Focus or the over 57 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: and under was eight and a half of the Cardinals 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: and everyone had a dead last in the division. And 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: again I understand, I mean, you get a healthy, Jimmy Garoppolo. 60 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: They had expectations to get to the Super Bowl. And 61 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: then you look at the Rams bringing in Matthew Stafford. 62 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: They were already kind of already team, and then Seattle 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson doesn't go down, you know, but hey, I 64 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: got the way I look at it is our gain 65 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: and their loss. Exactly things happened. What you can't predict 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: when the schedule comes out in the off season is 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: injuries and then just certain teams rising up in certain 68 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: teams falling, and the Cardinals certainly the ladder and fortunate 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: for us, not the former. Before we get into MJ's 70 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: three keys to victory, the X factor and the intangible 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: for this contest, just a quick injury item, and the 72 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: only concern for the Arizona Cardinals is at the center position, 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: something we've been talking about here for a while on 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover Too, presented by Hunday Proud partner of the 75 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. We know Rodney Hudson is out at least 76 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: one more game. He is trending, according to head coach 77 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, to be ready next week against the forty 78 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: nine ers. But that's next week. So this week once 79 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: again Max Garcia, though he is dealing with an achilles issue, 80 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: and the question is if Garcia is unable to snap 81 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the football, who is the center. Well, it's Sean Harlowe, 82 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: a former fourth round draft pick of the Atlanta Falcons 83 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen. He would be at the backup. 84 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: And then if you're looking for contingency plans, you got 85 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh and Calvin Beecham, according to Kingsbury, who can 86 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: play center. But as Kingsbury said, quote, hopefully we don't 87 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: get to that point end quote. And he also mentioned that, 88 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of hopeful that maybe Rodney Hudson 89 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: could return next week, but there was no guarantees and 90 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: so he is rehapping. And you know, they talked about 91 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, having you know, too deep at each position, 92 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: and it's definitely been tested this year, whether it's COVID, 93 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: whether it's injury. You know, I mean, you know, at 94 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: this point, Josh Shones is your starting right garden. We'll 95 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: see what happens, but hopefully he's a bounce back game 96 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: for him. But yeah, you know the good thing about Harlowe, 97 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I guess it took a ton of snaps in the 98 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: preseason and people go preseason, well, those are live snaps. 99 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: And then when Justin Pugh was out with COVID, he 100 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: was playing left guard next to hump and Hudson. He 101 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: learned a lot there watching him play. Doesn't look like 102 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: it's too big for him. It's just not a household name, 103 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: and we never thought that he would be one of 104 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: the starting five during the season, maybe an extra blocker, etc. 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: Like that. So but again, you know, Kugler is going 106 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to play the best guys. And one thing I noticed 107 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: during the game was, you know, Kingsbury come back. Obviously 108 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: he puts a lot of emphasis on Wednesday, Thursday and 109 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: Friday's practice for the game plan. Is there were times 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: when Kugler would come over to him and all of 111 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, the Cardinals were running the football. So you know, 112 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: obviously Cliff just getting back and got the play sheet 113 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: and everything else, and he kind of fought a little 114 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: dust discombobulated maybe in the first quarter. But Kugler was 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: in his ear a lot during that game based on 116 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: what he was able to see in practice, and that's 117 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: something that you don't have that particular week in where 118 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Kingsbury said he felt a little disconnected because the first 119 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: time running through those plays was actually a game day. 120 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: There was no prep for him on the football field. 121 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Different scenario this week, although they were only on the 122 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: practice field on Tuesday and a very limit amitted practice. 123 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: It's not full speed. It's walked through tempo. And that's 124 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: another thing Kingsbury brought up. He would much rather see 125 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: these plays practice at full speed or as full speed 126 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: as possible, but that's that's impossible right now because you 127 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: want to make sure these guys are healthy and able 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: to go Thursday. Not so much about running the offense 129 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: or defense on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. Yeah, and 130 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: you know you're allowed to. I think it's eleven padded 131 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: practices over the you know fourteen the first fourteen weeks 132 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: that they were basically just in jerseys and they were 133 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: basically they did their stretching and then you know, I 134 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: think they would about eighty percent. They didn't do really 135 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: hit any hitting any of the bags and some of 136 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: the blocking machines they have there. Um, So obviously recovery 137 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 1: is the most important thing. You know. J J. Watt 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins against short week, I anticipate both are 139 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: going to play like normal. So but yeah, I mean, 140 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: it's the whole recovery. But I'm a big fan of 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: being the home team is really going to help. Man, 142 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: We'll just have to wait and see. Obviously, going against 143 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in football. Yeah, you don't 144 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: have to get on a plane, you don't have to 145 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: stay at a hotel, as far as outside of the norm, 146 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: outside of your own vicinity. Also on the injury front, 147 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence dealing with a cafe issue. He did not 148 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: play last week, listed as a game day decision. Good 149 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: news though. Chandler Jones, Zach Allen activated off the reserve 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen less and according to Vance Joseph and coach Kingsbury, 151 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: both those players ready to go. So after missing some time, 152 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: it would be good to see both of those players back, 153 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: especially going up against this Packers offense. Yeah, and according 154 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: to VJ, you know, you know, Chandler has been out 155 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, a COVID it could affect 156 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: different different guys. We know what Larry went through last 157 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: year and Kennard, so you know, but you know there's 158 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: a report he lost some weight. But according to VJ, 159 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: he's good to go and you know, obviously just having 160 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: them on the field because they don't have David the 161 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Octa Terry at left tackle. They got a second round 162 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: pick from twenty nineteen there, so I gotta think that's 163 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: a matchup that Cardinals will try to attack. It is 164 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday proud partner of the 165 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. All right, let's discuss it here on a Wednesday, 166 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: our normal football Friday edition of Cardinals Cover two. The 167 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: matchup Packers six and one Cardinals seven and oh kickoff 168 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: from State Farm Stadium on Thursday night, five twenty. That 169 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: means pregame coverage begins at one thirty on the Arizona 170 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio network six and one, seven and oh. Yes, 171 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the Packers are expected to be without two of their 172 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: top wide receivers in Davante Adams and also Alan Lazard 173 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: could potentially get Marquez Valdi Scandling back, although he is 174 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: on injured reserve with a hamstring injury. So neither team 175 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: really is at full strength when you get to week eight. 176 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: But as we look at this matchup, MJ, everyone wants 177 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: to know can the Cardinals get to eight No their 178 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: best start and franchise history, whether that was Chicago, Saint 179 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: Louis or here in Arizona. Eight is the magic number. 180 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: So when we talk about keys, but is Mike Jarecki's 181 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: first key here for the Cardinals against the Packers. Well, 182 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: when I say this, it's you know, it's easier said 183 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: than done. But I think you got to make them 184 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: one dimensional. And they got a really good running back 185 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: in Aaron Jones and a Jane Dillon. You got to 186 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: see his cast. He remind me of Larry Centers and 187 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: so he They're got a lot of explosion now and 188 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: they're out with some of their top linemen, including their 189 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: left tackle. You know, obviously if they use the tight 190 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: ends probably to you know, chip to get So I 191 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: just think you got to you got to make them 192 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: one dimensional. And when I say that, you're gonna say, well, 193 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: why would you want Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball around? Well, 194 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying like they're going to benefit if they 195 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: can run the ball. Keep Kyler Murray and the Cardinals 196 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: offense on the sideline. So you know, yeah, I think 197 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: you have to somewhat make them one dimensional. And I'm 198 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: thinking going in, if you can contain the running game. 199 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: I think that will help and put Rogers maybe in 200 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: some situations, but it's I mean, it wouldn't surprise me 201 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: if they were runing for one hundred and twenty five yards. 202 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: The thing is, you know, when they get into the 203 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: red zone and they scoring touchdowns, Rodgers running more. He's 204 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: so smart when it comes to reading defenses. I don't 205 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: think if there's anything he hasn't seen in the past. 206 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Different players, obviously different scheme, but you know, if they 207 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: can hold these guys to less than four yards to carry, 208 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: I think they will go a long way. Just time 209 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: of possession when the Cardinals get the ball, Jones averaging 210 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: four and a half yards to carry, Dylan four point 211 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: four yards per carry. So overall the numbers don't look good. 212 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: The Packers just nineteenth as far as running the football, 213 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: but individually, whenever they touch the football, Jones and Dylan 214 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: very very good. The other thing you got to worry 215 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: about Jones is much like we talk about Chase Edmonds, 216 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: his ability talking about Jones to catch the football out 217 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: of the backfield. He ranked second on the team and 218 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: catches and first in touchdown receptions. That scenario of his 219 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: game that I don't think It's talked a lot about, 220 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: but you know, Banch Joseph and the Cardinals defense very 221 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: aware where Jones is, especially if he doesn't get the 222 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: handoff immediately. There's no doubt about it. And that you know, 223 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have given up some drives where you know 224 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: they got gashed and the key again is again easier 225 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: said than done. It's going to happen just based on 226 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: their athleticism and how powerful Dylan is with his lower extremities. 227 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: Is getting to the second level, you know that's gonna 228 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: be something they're gonna have to do. We know the 229 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals are one of the best tackling teams in the 230 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: open field. I think it was Kyle Vanibosch who pointed 231 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: out actually in the preseason. He noticed it right away. 232 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: And I think people are starting to take notice about 233 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker the way they hit and 234 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: he got to give you know, Marco Wilson's more a 235 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: little bit more finessed Iyra Murphy will stick his nose 236 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: in there, and so Robert Alford and when you had 237 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: that kind of combination, if they want to get to 238 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: the second level, and obviously I feel good about them 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: with a tackling, but that's going to allow them to 240 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: move the change if they get to the second level. 241 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: It's not Derrick Henry. It's more like a Dalvin Cook 242 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: when you talk about Aaron Jones. But at the same time, 243 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: to your point, it's not just an arm tackle. It's 244 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be You're gonna have to wrap 245 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: him up and bring him down, and maybe it is 246 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to be a second defender. But he is 247 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: one of those elusive running backs. Not big and powerful, 248 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: but still powerful in the way he runs the football, 249 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: which is more athletic, if you will, when you're comparing 250 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry and now and Aaron Jones. Yeah, 251 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Jones is just more I mean I could see Jones, 252 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: you know. It is more of a downhill runner where 253 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones can you know that if they want to 254 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: run that that zone to the outside. But he also 255 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: can catch the ball to backfield. So if the Cardinals 256 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: are bringing more than they can block, you know, Rogers 257 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: will abate him a little bit, come keep coming, and 258 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: then obviously that pop pass to Aaron Jones the next 259 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: thing you know, he's off to the races. So yeah, 260 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean Cardinals are a smart team. Obviously we talk 261 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: about the physicality and leadership, but they have made them 262 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: out a lot of mistakes that really they haven't beaten 263 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: themselves this year. You know, a certain points in the game. Yeah, 264 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean the other team gets paid. But for the 265 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: most part, just keep everything in front of you, all right, 266 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: So first key, make the Packers one dimensional. It's something 267 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about and it's advanced Joseph Preachers, 268 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: but certainly when you're talking about this Packers offense, you 269 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: take away that run. Yes it's Aaron Rodgers to your point, 270 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: but still you always want that quarterback to throw the 271 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: football because more more bad things, if you will, could 272 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: happen when the quarterback drops back the pass. There's no 273 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: doubt about it. And like I said, you know, in 274 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: Week one, it was interesting because the Saints were practicing 275 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: in Dallas and then their analytics team did a you know, 276 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: like figured out Aaron Rodgers where he successful and Marie 277 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: is and they picked Florida and he's struggled in Florida. 278 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: So they went down there and Playton Jacks Villa, and 279 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: everyone thought he was taking the season the way he 280 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: played that day. He's just had a bad day. And 281 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: then they won six in a row. And you know 282 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:13,119 Speaker 1: they've eaten some you know, quality teams. I think Washington, Taylor, Heinekey, 283 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: he he ran for a ton of yards. I mean 284 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: they give up a lot of yards. You know, some 285 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: of it was big, big chunk yards. But yeah, I 286 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: mean any but like I said, as long as Aaron 287 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers out there, I mean they got a chance. I 288 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: mean every time he steps on the field, and he 289 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: made like guys like Jeff Janis and it was the 290 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: other guy's name like gr Garroumel or something. I mean 291 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: he had two in that one that one possession, so 292 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: he Hill, Randall Cobbs still there. They got players, you know. 293 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: But again again just don't give given him the ball 294 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: in the hands maybe in the fourth quarter, you know, 295 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: the final drive. So yeah, because we've already been there. 296 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: But he hasn't. He hasn't been successful at State Farm 297 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Stadium though it is not it's been his own little 298 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: personal house of horrors, especially his last couple of trips 299 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: to Arizona, although he did mention when he addressed the 300 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers media this week that he did like 301 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: the State Farm Stadium he did like the signage, he 302 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: liked the name. Wasn't sure if Jake was going to 303 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: be there. But you know, if you don't know what 304 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about, bird Gang, google it all right. So 305 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: first key, make the Packers one dimension. Know what's key 306 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: number two? Key number two is going to be the 307 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense. You know, just trying to spart him out. 308 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, you got zach Ertz and you got you know, 309 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: obviously we know who the top four receivers are right now. 310 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: You know last week run run blocking wasn't an issue. 311 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Pass protection was an issue early in that game. And 312 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: when you look at it, you know the Cardinals are 313 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: cutching or break here besides the two wide receivers. But 314 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: you look at Zadarius Smith, he's one of the better players. 315 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Jared Alexander. Jared Alexander, he's one of the best corners 316 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: in football. He doesn't get a lot of credit because 317 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: he plays in Green Bay. I'll put him up there 318 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: with Jay and Ramsey and you know, obviously Stefan Goldman 319 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: when he's healthy. So they're missing a pass rusher in 320 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: one of their best corners. So the Cardinals need to 321 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: be better in pass protection. So they can protect Murray. 322 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Their defensive coordinator is on the Covial list, so obviously 323 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: the games plan has been't put it in, so somebody 324 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: else is making the calls. Like you know, it's not 325 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: going to be the same. I'm sure they're going to 326 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: stick to what they do, but obviously with the different 327 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: guy making the calls, it's going to be just a 328 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: little bit different. So I want to see if the 329 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals can spread them out, considering they don't have their 330 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: one their two best players again Alexander, I looked at 331 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: his stats is in the off season, considering I knew 332 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: that Cardinals were going to play him, and I was amazed. 333 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, why does this guy getting more credit? And so, 334 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the fact that they're missing some 335 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: of their top guys, and it's more from the linebacker 336 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: in the corner position than it is from the front floor. 337 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: They have leaned heavily on their rookie out of Georgia 338 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: first round pick twenty ninth overall, Eric Stokes. He got 339 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: a team high eight passes defense and it is a 340 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: secondary that numbers wise, has done very well against the 341 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: past number six defending the past. This season, it is 342 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: going to be interesting how this Packers unit just if 343 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: you will, without Joe Berry, the defensive coordinator, testing positive 344 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: and not with the team. Yes, you're a part of 345 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: the game plan. And we've seen head coaches miss games, 346 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, Kevin Stefanski as far as missing games, but 347 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: different perhaps when it's a coordinator one who is making 348 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: those immediate adjustments and who do the Packers have or 349 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: do they rely on some of their veteran players to 350 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: make those in game adjustments when the guy who set 351 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: up the game plan as the coordinator is not around exactly, 352 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: And again it's just a different voice. But at the 353 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: same time, this is their scheme, this is their system. Now, Yeah, 354 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: when you mentioned you know, maybe they fared well against 355 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: the other teams when it comes through their secondary. Well, 356 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: let's be honest. I mean Tayler Heine Heinekes guy that 357 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: really doesn't throw the ball. He's probably better off running. 358 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: You go back to week one and Jamis Winston he 359 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: kind of so, I don't know if they faced a 360 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: quarterback like Kyler Murray, that's fair. Yeah, they have not. 361 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: They have not faced someone like that as far as 362 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: a true dual threat. If you will, yes, Heineke was 363 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: able to run the football, but him running versus Kyler 364 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: running is completely different, and him throwing versus Kyler throwing 365 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: is completely different. Just see arm strength. The one thing 366 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I do want to mention, and I know he's a 367 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: name that was brought up this offseason, and that's what 368 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell is doing for that Packers defense right now. 369 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Leads the team in tackles. In fact, he's top ten 370 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: I think in the NFL in tackles coming off a 371 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: great game last week thirteen tackles, ten solo, two four's fumbles. 372 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: But one of those players that just can't seem to 373 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: latch on with a team as far as long term. 374 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: He played exceptionally well for the Arizona Cardinals. I don't 375 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: think that can be debated yet when you look at 376 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: what was behind him with Isaiah Simmons and then you 377 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: drafted Zavin Collins, Campbell wasn't needed and less when we 378 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: talked in the offseason, if Jordan Hicks was not going 379 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: to be available and Campbell was still on the market, 380 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: then maybe you just swapped those guys out because you 381 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: did need a veteran at inside linebacker if you were 382 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: going to lose a Jordan Hicks head and have two 383 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: young guyers. But Hicks stuck around and Campbell landed in 384 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Green Bay and he is making the most of his 385 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: opportunity with the Packers. Yeah, and I do think the 386 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals did have a team out there that was willing 387 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: to offer a six round pick, and then all of 388 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, I think they decided they were 389 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: going to go a different direction with a younger player. 390 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: But they thought they had a deal. But again, sometimes 391 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: the best deals are the deals you don't do. And 392 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: I mentioned Hulule Jones recently. You know, I'm glad the 393 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals didn't signed him, but yeah, I mean, and according 394 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers, they asked him, you know, he goes well, 395 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: I know him in from him Atlanta. We played Atlanta 396 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: a few times and he said, I was I was 397 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: shocked that he was running with the twos U in practice. 398 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: And then I would I read, you know, I try 399 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: to read as much as I can based on you know, 400 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: kind of that four games schedule who they're playing. And 401 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: he was attending special teams meetings on his own because 402 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: he thought, you know, if I can help on special teams. 403 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: And now He's more vocal there because you don't have 404 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: Smith and you don't have Alexander, where those guys are 405 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of the elder statesman and their upside and production 406 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: speaks volumes what they do. So um, yeah, listen. I 407 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: if they would have traded Jordan Hicks, I think he 408 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: would have been an option. And but Jordan Hicks has 409 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: played really well and good for Campbell. Hopefully maybe he 410 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: can get a long term deal out of this, because 411 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, he just goes about his business and you know, 412 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: two years, two or three ye years, two years ago, 413 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had given up like seventeen or eighteen touch on. 414 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Last year they go too, And I give a lot 415 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: of credit to him and maybe some of these secondary 416 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: guys that did a good job too. Yeah, defending the 417 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: tied end, Campbell really solidified that. A reminder last season, 418 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: sixteen games wearing that Cardinal's uniform, ninety nine tackles, two sacks, 419 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: So he did what he was asked to do. I 420 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: think he did more than what he was asked to 421 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: do wearing that Cardinal's uniform well, and he also went 422 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: against that Cardinal's offense every day in practice. So I'm 423 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: sure they're picking his brain, you know, keeping in the pocket. 424 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: You know he's here said than done, but I mean 425 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: he hasn't and he's the closest guy that has probably 426 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: the most intel that changed teams in one year. Cardinals 427 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hunday Proud, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 428 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Mike Dreki's three Keys to Victory. Number one make the 429 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Packers one dimensional. Number two spread the Packers defense out, 430 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: utilize all of the weapons that Kyler Murray has with 431 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: respects to that Cardinal's offense. What's number three, MJ Number 432 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: three is going to be play with a lead. I 433 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: think it's very important the Cardinals play with a lead here. 434 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they can't come from behind, but 435 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: if if the Packers get up, you know, as the 436 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals played in the first quarter last week, and then 437 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, obviously they made adjustments, but if they're down 438 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: by ten or twelve or fourteen points, all of a sudden, 439 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: it's going to change because now they're going to try 440 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: to run the football and they're going to try to 441 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: utilize the clock, and at that point, you know the 442 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: defense is going to have to step up. So I 443 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: just think you know, if you can play with the 444 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: lead and it doesn't have to be three scores, I mean, 445 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: just play with the lead to where you don't have 446 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: to come out of your offense and their defense can 447 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: still do what they want without them lining up and 448 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: running the ball thirty or thirty five times. So that 449 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: that's to me is if you can play with a lead, 450 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: I think it will go a long way. You could 451 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: say that with any team, but with this Cardinal team 452 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: though we've seen it. When they get a lead in 453 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: a fourth quarter, it becomes a you know, really a 454 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: run game. For that. I mean, you're not gonna always 455 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: going to have a four minute drive, but when you 456 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: get it at seven or eight minute mark and you 457 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: have a lead by two or three possessions, it could 458 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: be seventeen points or three scores, that's where they take 459 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: over and that's where they've been really effective, and that's 460 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: where the run blocking comes in. It's been amazing to 461 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: watch this offense as far as transform when they do 462 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: have a lead, because they'll spread you out in the 463 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: first quarter first taff throw the football around the field. 464 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: You get that two score lead, and then all of 465 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's you're still spreading out, but you're running 466 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: the ball between the tackles and it's ball control, and 467 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: you're working the clock and moving the chains. And that's 468 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: something that people haven't seen the first couple of seasons 469 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: underhead coach Cliff Kingsbury. But when you do have, when 470 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: you play with the lead, the playbook opens, and when 471 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: you're down two or three scores, then all of a sudden, 472 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: the playbook shrinks because you have to drop back and 473 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: throw the football. Now, the Cardinals do have the ability 474 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: to get back into games. Week two against the Vikings, 475 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: they trailed, came back and because it is that high 476 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: powered offense, the quick scoring offense, they can get you 477 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: on four or five plays. They can also go ten, eleven, 478 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: twelve plays to score. I really like the fifty fifty balance, 479 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: if you will. At the end of the day, with 480 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: what Kingsbury and the offense have been able to do 481 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: exactly all right, my X factor Chandler Jones. He should 482 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: have had three sacks and maybe in the Cleveland game 483 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: it could have had a couple more. I'm not saying 484 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna have five, but he's going against their backup 485 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: left tackle David Bactieri's is an All Pro player, a 486 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: guy that has protected Aaron Rodgers over the years, and 487 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: so I gotta think he's looking his chops there and 488 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: in fact, if he can get in the backfield and 489 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: maybe he can force a fumble or you know, you know, 490 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: staff from the ball, or let Marcus Golden start eating 491 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: from the other side. But Chandler Jones to me, now 492 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna win that matchup. I don't, I mean again 493 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: coming back from COVID, but I just think you know 494 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: he hasn't he's got he should have fresh legs now. 495 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: I know COVID can affect different guys. Just want to 496 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: make sure and if he's lost some weight, and obviously 497 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: he's probably eating better now, and we didn't hear anything 498 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: about losing his smell or taste. So I gotta think 499 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: he's got a chip on his shoulder because he's still 500 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: stuck where he was in week one. But we know 501 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: he's done a lot of the more different things than 502 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: just fill up the stat sheet at the sack position. 503 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: He's forcing fumbles, he's free, he's free, and Marcus goldenough. 504 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the whole idea of bringing JJ Watton 505 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: and having Isaiah Simmons close to the line of scrimmage. 506 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the whole ideas freeze guys up and 507 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Golden has benefited from it. But he also puts the 508 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: work in and it's not like it comes easy to him. 509 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: He puts the work in every day and that's why 510 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden is really playing well. For the years when 511 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: the Carlos, considering it, only gave up a six round 512 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: pick and as soon as Chandler Jones went down, they 513 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: made that trade. Soon as Max Williams went down, they 514 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: made that trade. They didn't wait. And obviously those are 515 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: two we'll see more about zach Ertz, but we know 516 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: what Golden has done over the last couple of years. 517 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: You know, Chandler Jones is chomping at the bit to 518 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: get back on that football field. You mentioned week one 519 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: five sacks. He doesn't have a sack since, and since 520 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: he's been on the sideline, he's lost the team lead 521 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: in sacks. Marcus Golden has six and he's seen JJ 522 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Watt tie him for career sacks at one hundred and two. 523 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: So you know, within that locker room there's some good 524 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: natured ribbing between all three of them. At the end 525 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: of the day though, it's how do you get that? 526 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: W and I would like to see Chandler Jones again. 527 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to bring down Aaron Rodgers. It is 528 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: though free plug here for the Arizona Cardinals Kickoff magazine. 529 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: It is the Marque matchup Chandler Jones and Aaron Rodgers. 530 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: This will be only the second time they've shared the 531 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: same field. First time was back in twenty eighteen. Chandler 532 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: Jones did record a sack in that contest, the game 533 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: the Cardinals won at lambeau Field. So it would be 534 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: nice to see Chandler Jones one just back on the 535 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: foot ball field and two disrupt lee Packers offense get 536 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: into that backfield, whether it's TFLs or quarterback hits. You know, 537 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: the NFL does a really good job sending out the 538 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: capsule for each week and the kind of give you 539 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: the numbers. His numbers on Thursday Night Football, Oh, they're 540 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: off the charts. I want to say he's had eight sacks. 541 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: I want to say he's got a couple of forced fumbles, 542 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: he's got a couple of fumble recoveries, he's got some 543 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: quarterback hits, some tackle for losses. So again under the lights. 544 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's the first time they're going to 545 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: have the number one crew in the NFL. And I'm 546 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: sure they've probably made that Dallas game gets flexed out. 547 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: Who knows that at the end of the year, depending 548 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: on what they're playing for. But anyways, yeah, so bright lights. 549 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: These guys all enjoy it. There's nothing like Monday night football. 550 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: It's the only game in town. And you know your people, 551 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: you went to school where we're watching, your your school 552 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: teachers are watching. They're all, why I know that guy? 553 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that. So but there's the bright lights, 554 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: and that's that place to be rocking. And we'll see, 555 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: we'll see how many Packer fans there. But Cardinal fans 556 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: protect the nest. Okay, and we've talked about it about 557 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: capitalism and all that other stuff. Listen, what I said 558 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: on the post game Sunday was this is a year 559 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: you want to be at the stadium. I get that's 560 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna pay for half of your tickets, but this could 561 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: be a miracle season. I mean, this team's I mean 562 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in double digits. I mean we still 563 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: got ten games to go, and there's seven and oh 564 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: so do what you want to do. But I'm just 565 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: saying this is a magical season, and so I hope 566 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: Cardinal fans do the right thing. And I know ninety 567 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: eight seven is doing the right thing by giving out tickets. 568 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, code read, So hopefully you get a chance 569 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: to win some tickets, but protect the nest. By the way, 570 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: a win on Thursday would match the Cardinals win total 571 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: from last season. Just let that sink in a little bit. 572 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: Here is we're still in the middle of October. I 573 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: aren't you glad we're not talking five and two and 574 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: six and three. Yeah, quite a difference, all right, So 575 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: we got the X factor Chandler Jones, what you're intangible 576 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: for this Week eight matchup Special Teams. Mason Crosby's struggle 577 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: now it's indoors, it's grass, but you know it's a 578 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: little difficult. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt 579 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: sometimes late in December kicked there, but he's missed extra 580 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: points and so I just think, you know, Rondo Moore 581 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: until field position and Matt Prator can be consistent. Now, 582 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: the thing is Matt Praytor around the year field goal wise, 583 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: he's twelve or fifty. We've know he's tried at sixty 584 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: four and a sixty one. But on the other side, 585 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Crosbie's twelve or sixteen. They're both tied for eleventh, but 586 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Crosbie's has come and press your time. They got lucky 587 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: when they went to overtime. He had missed like two 588 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: or three and then it gets He finally gets the 589 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: one in overtime, and of course Rogers said he knew 590 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: he was going to kick that one when the game 591 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: was on the line. So I just think special teams here, 592 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: maybe you can get a block punt or something like that, 593 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: and not that they needed to create another possession, but 594 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: I think it would go a long way, just kind 595 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: of playing that complimentary football, you know, offense defense, they 596 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: play off each other, and special teams. Maybe then get 597 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: to midfield, you know, give Kyler a short field to 598 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: play with. Rondel Moore has come close. He certainly makes 599 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: it exciting when he is back there returning punts, but 600 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: there have been a couple where, you know, just make 601 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: another guy miss or another key block, then all of 602 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: a sudden he's off to the races for maybe thirty 603 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: thirty five forty yards or maybe he houses it and 604 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: it is a dynamic that we just haven't seen in 605 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: a long time. So perhaps maybe this is the moment 606 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: for Rondel Moore on Thursday. Yeah, and I'm noticing teams 607 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: are sometimes on the punt, you know, he's you know 608 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: the rule as you put your cleats on the ten 609 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: yard line, and then the ball has been bouncing sometimes 610 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the four. I just wish he would hit that first guy. 611 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: Now I know that, you know, there's guys bringing them 612 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: down his neck, and I think we're gonna start to 613 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: see teams uses a coffin corner like kick it to 614 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: the sidelines. So now the sidelines becomes a defensive player. 615 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: Now he has the ability to take it, you know, 616 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: into the middle of the field, but you don't have 617 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of wiggle room if you got a defensive 618 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: player there. So I'm really impressed with his kickoffs. I 619 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: have no problem four yards deep taking it out. He 620 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: usually gets twenty twenty three, twenty five. And but I'm 621 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: with you, it's just a matter of time. And clearly, 622 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: you know he's a weapon on both special teams and 623 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: on the offense. Now we did see, you know, Benjamin 624 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: return kicks this past Sunday against the Houston Texans. I 625 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: wonder if that continues or depends on the rest of 626 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: the roster as fathers, whether you need that active guy 627 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: in uniform as opposed to you know, Benjamin. But it 628 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: does take something off of Moore's plate, especially if we 629 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: see him a little bit more. No pun intended as 630 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: far as on the offensive end, because it is difficult 631 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: you're returning a kick, you're turning a punt and then 632 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: you got to go back out there for first down. 633 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: Definitely want to leave him at punt return though, and 634 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: we'll see the numbers. You know, who's out. Did I 635 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: have to dress another lineman or a tight end? Did 636 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: they go three there? So it's always a numbers game 637 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: for you know. But I'm glad he got his first 638 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: carries last week and that it's nice to see. And 639 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals I think did a good job. Like I 640 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: noticed Shorten Hicks didn't play as much as he has 641 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: and you know they I think some of those guys 642 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: got between five and six nap. See that's a small sample, 643 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: but at least they didn't have to be on the 644 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: field for sixty minutes. All right. So here's what we 645 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: got four week eight. MJ's three keys to victory. Make 646 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: the Packers one dimensional number two, spread out the Packers 647 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: defensively as far as the Cardinals offense is concerned. And three, 648 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: if you can play with the lead, as we've seen 649 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: over the last several weeks, it becomes more of a 650 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: running game for the Cardinals offensively. The X factor Chandler 651 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: Jones and the intangible special teams, and you go a 652 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: number of different ways with respects to special teams, which 653 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: we just discussed here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, 654 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. I did want to 655 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: point this up because it certainly has gotten a lot 656 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: of tractions since the news that Adams had been placed 657 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: on the reserve COVID nineteen lists. I want to get 658 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: your thoughts to MJ as far As and I don't 659 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: know who to credit, but now all of a sudden, 660 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: you can't go anywhere when you talk about this matchup 661 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: and not see six and OZO the Packers over the 662 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: last two seasons six and O without Davante Adams on 663 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: the football field. That stat was relayed to Aaron Rodgers, 664 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: and I like what he had to say, because there 665 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: is no one that follows the Packers or the National 666 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: Football League that thinks the Packers are better without Adams 667 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: on the football field. Despite that six and oh mark, 668 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: the Packers are not better without Adams on the football field. 669 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: Yet Aaron Rodgers seventeen touchdowns, one interception, seventy percent completion 670 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: percentage in those six games over the last two seasons 671 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: with Davanta Adams. I you know, it's you say, small 672 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: sample size, but six games is six games over two seasons, 673 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: so it is an odd statistic, but it does make 674 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: you wary of an Aaron Rodgers, someone who is capable 675 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: of uplifting whomever he has as a pass catcher to 676 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: new heights without your number one guy on the field. Yeah, 677 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: one of those games, Aaron Jones had four touchdowns. It's 678 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: one of the beat writers that I actually retweeted out. 679 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: He's the one that came up with as soon as 680 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: they announced that Adams and out, and then Robert Robert 681 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: Tobin or Turbin. He's another guy that had a couple 682 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: of touchdowns. I mean, if you look at the numbers itself, though, 683 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about thirty five thirty eight percent of the 684 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: passing game is Davante Adams and you know, you look 685 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: at Lazard and you know there's a big drop off. 686 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: To me, they don't have a number two. Even though 687 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went to bat for Randall Cobby, he's more 688 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: of a three years a slot guy. So yeah, I 689 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: mean it's if you're talking about thirty five to thirty 690 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: eight percent of their passing offense, I mean six and 691 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: those again, that's not going to mean anything come tomorrow night. 692 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: Adam leads the league in receptions. He's third in receiving yards. Though, 693 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: what advanced Joseph and he rattled off these numbers when 694 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: he was asked about it on Tuesday. He knew all 695 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: of it, but it was interesting to hear him say, quote, 696 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: it's going to force Aaron to obviously play a cleaner game. 697 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: And I think you know, as Aaron Rodgers, you don't 698 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: maybe take as many chances if you don't have Adams 699 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: on the field, because when you know you're throwing it 700 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: to him, you can get it into tighter windows because 701 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: either he's gonna catch it or no one is going 702 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: to catch it. But it is an interesting to cystic. 703 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear it and see it a lot on Thursday, 704 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: and it does make you think, all right, well, maybe 705 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of an easier battle for the 706 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals defensively, but I don't I don't like this when 707 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, you're you're missing players or 708 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: you're missing key guys because you don't want to relax. 709 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: And sometimes a team without it's star can be much 710 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: more dangerous because guys just feel they feel empowered to 711 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: do a little bit more. I'm gonna go to the opposite. 712 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: I think it's where he's going to spread the ball 713 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: around more. He's not going to be forced to look 714 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: at Vante Adams, you know, like, hey, if he could 715 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: single covers and I'm throwing to him, which is very 716 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: similar to Dean Andre Hopkins and aj Green Now, but 717 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: I think he's going to try to get more guys involved, 718 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: and these guys have been waiting for their opportunities, and 719 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, we'll find out who his go to guy is. 720 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: This based on you know, obviously practicing with those guys. 721 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: So but I think he Claire is gonna have to 722 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: spread the ball out and that's where the Cardinals. You know, 723 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: how much tape do they have on some of these 724 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: other receivers, etc. Well, Randall Cobb, who the narrative was 725 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers wanted him back in Green Bay, so 726 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he might become that number one guy. 727 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: They do get Molik Taylor, he's been activated off the 728 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: reserve cover nineteen lists, and they do utilize a lot 729 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: of two tight ends with Robert Ton and Mercedes Lewis. 730 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: Tanyan does have fifteen catches for one hundred and fifty 731 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: five yards and two scores. So yeah, as a defense, 732 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: you don't just key on Adams now all of a sudden, 733 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: you've got to be wary of anyone else that breaks 734 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: the huddle as a pass catcher. Yeah, I'm glad you 735 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: pronounced his name right, so but yeah, I agree. But 736 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: again I think they probably think, you know, we'll utilize 737 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: Dylan and Jones and we'll try to go play action 738 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: and then maybe keep an extra tight end in there 739 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: to block Chandler Jones or Marcus Coldan coming out the edge. 740 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: I think the key for the Cardinals here is another 741 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: key would be try to get some rush up the middle. 742 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: Make Aaron Rodgers take him. We always say vans watches 743 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: take the quarterback off of spot, you know, and make 744 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: him move around where he But again, when I say 745 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: all this stuff, he can he can throw, just like 746 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes side arm. He can throw. I mean when 747 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: you watch him, you're like, this is not normal because 748 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: he'll throw across his body over the middle of the field. 749 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: I mean, but he gets away with it because he 750 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: knows I got a guy wide open and I'm going 751 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: to target this area. So as as long as he's 752 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: on the field, man, you gotta be in your p's 753 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: and q's. He is fun to watch and you are 754 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: never out of it. When you have an Aaron Rodgers 755 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. There are a handful that you could 756 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: say about that Drew Brees, a Peyton Manning to Tom 757 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: Brady throughout the years that even you go into the 758 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter down two scores or even three scores, be 759 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: careful because especially at State Farm Stadium, we've seen it 760 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: in playoff game after playoff game with Aaron Rodgers and 761 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: the Packers, they are never out of it as long 762 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: as he is upright. Yeah, and I expect the Cardinals, 763 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: whether they win the toss or not, I expect them 764 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: if they can pick up a first down or two 765 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: or you know, pick up you know, you know, first 766 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: down or on second down, they pick up a first down, 767 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: then they go with the Murray up offense. They go 768 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: with the up tempo office for night. They can't substitute, 769 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: so they got to try to figure it out. So 770 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: that's who they are. And you know, like I said, 771 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to a matchup. I like the Cardinals 772 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: in this game. Just from a standpoint of just Craig, 773 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this point. You can agree or disagree. 774 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: The Cardinals would not be seven to oh without their defense. Correct. 775 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: And as much as we talk about Kyler Murra in 776 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: the offense, it's the defense that I've been more impressed with. Yes, 777 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: it's the numbers, but it is everyone on that defense, 778 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: not just the eleven starters, but the guys that come 779 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: in off the bench, if you will, that have maintained 780 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: that standard that they set early on. And I'll go 781 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: back to week one at tennessee JJ Watt walking off 782 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: the field the prize that was expected. It was a 783 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: surprise to me, to be honest, Yet we've seen it 784 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: now weekend and week out. They are they are stopping, 785 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: slowing down and sometimes shutting out more times than not. 786 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: Opposing offenses well, I mean when you're putting up over 787 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: the four one hundred yards and you know, but six 788 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: of the seven games or five of the six seven 789 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: or five of the seven games, the offense grabs the headlines. 790 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: I get it. And plus it's fantasy football, and you've 791 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: got Kyler Murray playing like an MVP, and you got 792 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: hop out there who's kind of sacrificing some targets and 793 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: touches for touchdowns. You know, Christian Kirk's having a great year. 794 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm fine with that. I mean, that's that's 795 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: their offense, and it's exciting, and you know it's must 796 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: TV when Kyler's out there. But I just think without 797 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: that defense, they would not be unbeaten. Right now, number 798 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: one scoring defense, number one defending third down, number one 799 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: defending fourth down with twelve stops, most in the league, 800 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: and number three defending the past, which again it's year three. 801 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: Something Vans Joseph also discussed and Darren Urban's got a 802 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: story up on asy Cardinals dot com. We remember the 803 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: struggle year one, got a little bit better in year two, 804 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: but now here you are being patients and the continuity 805 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: on staff on the foot ball field on why this 806 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: defense is where it's at right now. Yeah, and that's why, 807 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, some teams got to be patient. I'm sure 808 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: you know. Cardinal fans weren't very happy when in five 809 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: and eight games, and I get it. Nobody was happy 810 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: last year. I mean it was. It was Debbie Downer 811 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: after the season, just like could have been, would have been, 812 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: should have been, didn't happen. But I'm telling you what 813 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: happened in weeks sixteen and seventeen is a blessing in 814 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: disguise because Steve kim rolled the sleeves up and said, 815 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm not letting this happen again. Would have happened in 816 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen that that the focus was, we're not 817 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: going through this anymore. Third year with the head coach, 818 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: third year with the quarterback, third year in the same 819 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: system with the defense. Yeah, we're not going through this anymore. 820 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: So it was a blessing in disguise. Actually, what happened 821 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: late in the year last year, although I don't want 822 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: to go through Week sixteen against the forty nine ers 823 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: at home, that that was that was painful, even from 824 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: the press box to oh listen, it was disappointing. You're 825 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: five and two and six and three, and you know 826 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: after the how Murray plays is I don't know, just well, well, 827 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, Brian Fullery's in Belichick kind of. You know, 828 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: they mucked the game up. They didn't need to score 829 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: a ton of points. I mean everything to us through 830 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: was inside the inside the numbers because he's left handed. 831 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: But there's no way we should have lost to Cam Newton. 832 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: Like yeah, but anyways, I really think that that was it, Like, Okay, 833 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: we're on notice here. It's not that it's now or 834 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: never because Steve's looking two or three years. But it 835 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: was a huge offseason for the Cardinals, huge and they 836 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: checked a lot of boxes. Week eight, Thursday Night Football 837 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: Primetime five twenty the kickoff from State Farm Stadium one 838 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 1: thirty pm. Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 839 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals get to eights and o as they 840 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: host the six and one Green Bay Packers, the NFL's 841 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: second oldest rivalry behind only the Cardinals and the Bears. 842 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: And some more history which is on the Cardinals side. 843 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: They have one three straight at home over the Green 844 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Now that does include postseason, but the Cardinals 845 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: certainly have the ability, and they know they can beat 846 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 1: this Green Bay Packers team. Yeah, but all that really 847 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter until we see what happens tomorrow. And I mean, 848 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure Rogers, I don't know if he pays attention 849 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: to that kind of stuff, But like I said, he's dangerous. 850 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: Just just don't don't make it a one possession game 851 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter where he has the ball. Now, 852 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: I trust a defense, but I'm just saying he has 853 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: the ability to pull off. You know, he's kind of 854 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: like Houdini at times. All these numbers, all these stats 855 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: will be discussed, all goes out the window once the 856 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: game is kicked off. What was that? Oh yeah, other 857 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: than that, all things are good. Yeah, we learned that. 858 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: And I took a different approach based on Tom Brady saying, 859 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: you know what, I know, the Cardinals lost hat in 860 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: a row, and I'm like, I'm not going there this year, 861 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: hammer versus Now. I'm just what happens on game day, 862 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: And again, the most talented team doesn't always win. It's 863 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: a team that plays the best on that day. And 864 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: on that note, we will put a lid on this 865 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday proud partner 866 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 867 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Almahundro For Mike Jarecki, I'm Craig Reel Lou. 868 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.