Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast. Training camp starts
Speaker 1: today and we are juice stuff. We break down the roster,
Speaker 1: who's on the bubble and tan It gives you the
Speaker 1: best way to know if someone's gonna make the team.
Speaker 1: It all starts right now, Water Bias. Welcome into the
Speaker 1: Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Pulsing here with Fred Spot
Speaker 1: and Santana Mossino. Boys. Yes, how has summer been? I
Speaker 1: feel like I haven't seen you in a very long time.
Speaker 1: Some have been summery been summering.
Speaker 2: Hey, I've the DMV has been on fire fire.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about one hundred degrees hundre degrees hunting back
Speaker 3: to bat actual temperature. Yeah, and That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: But then I went to Chicago and Chicago eighty degree
Speaker 3: for five days.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 2: I could not believe because I used to go there
Speaker 2: in the summer.
Speaker 3: As a kid, that my family is there and it
Speaker 3: would just bare be hot. But it was just like
Speaker 3: And then I was going to the people in they
Speaker 3: were like, Na, this's a cool summer for us.
Speaker 2: We didn't have the cool o there.
Speaker 3: My daughter had an AU tournament out there was kind
Speaker 3: of a beast U.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is she ja like her dadds.
Speaker 4: Impossible to know she's a smooth just.
Speaker 3: Saying she Jai like her daddy. Guess what, logan. I
Speaker 3: love to see a score, but I love to see.
Speaker 1: A talk trash like you talk about.
Speaker 2: Oh, I just see it.
Speaker 3: I just sit in there. I just cried and stay
Speaker 3: like I don't even care about the imagine.
Speaker 1: You know what's wild is I hate it when my
Speaker 1: son talks trash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you didn't get what He's just gonna be
Speaker 3: so opposite and you see, I'm gonna be here, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be cheered for him.
Speaker 2: You don't your dad ain't nothing.
Speaker 1: It's true, and.
Speaker 4: I'm just opposite. I hate trash. I love making my
Speaker 4: duty to embarrass you mama and your daddy. I just
Speaker 4: call him at one time.
Speaker 3: I love to see it from her because they're telling
Speaker 3: me that she emotionally connected to the game, like she
Speaker 3: cares like she she made when they lose.
Speaker 2: She just she want to know. She's passionate about it.
Speaker 3: And I feel like if your kids passionate about something,
Speaker 3: you don't have to ask them to do.
Speaker 1: It talking to other team or is she like talking
Speaker 1: to her like?
Speaker 3: First of all, she's giggly, She's very giggly, fun nice,
Speaker 3: But when the game start, she ain't doing all this
Speaker 3: smile no more.
Speaker 2: She very competitive.
Speaker 4: So tell me this, and I wanted to ask you
Speaker 4: this a long time ago. How is she now seeing
Speaker 4: how much of this? I guess you could say.
Speaker 2: Love. She begins showing love.
Speaker 4: But traction that Wnba has been getting from everybody now, I.
Speaker 2: Think she don't really get.
Speaker 3: She's such a fan of the game that she don't
Speaker 3: get caught up in what I'm gonna do. Then, I
Speaker 3: think she's just so happy to be where she at now,
Speaker 3: Like I think her feet is on the ground. Like
Speaker 3: we was talking in Chicago, she had a good game
Speaker 3: with like nineteen points, and she was like powering.
Speaker 2: And stuff, like what are you powdering about? Y'all won
Speaker 2: the game? You had a good game.
Speaker 3: She's like, Nah, missed too many shots, left a lot
Speaker 3: of baskets on the board that I supposed to have
Speaker 3: had like five more steals.
Speaker 2: She's literally just turned sixteen two days ago.
Speaker 1: That's also I guess, yes.
Speaker 3: Because she holds her self account and I think that's
Speaker 3: the biggest thing with her. And like I told her,
Speaker 3: as long as you your own biggest critty. You ain't
Speaker 3: got worried about what nobody else saying.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because you know, I do all the training,
Speaker 1: and I do the coaching and stuff, and like you,
Speaker 1: you want kids to walk self starters and self motivated.
Speaker 1: You were talking about crocodiles and you were in Florida.
Speaker 4: About I was asking him about because I was watching
Speaker 4: the news in Florida where I thought it was an alligator
Speaker 4: that just showed up on shore at the beach, and like,
Speaker 4: that's fresh, that's all we said. So I'm like, man, free,
Speaker 4: you know everything. I dang, he.
Speaker 2: Doesn't know a lot of them.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know it existed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He does know a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was just real for me to see
Speaker 4: that and then just to know that's why I haven't
Speaker 4: been going to the beach for nothing, because I don't
Speaker 4: want to see no sharks shocks up on the shore.
Speaker 3: Now, Well that because the water is warming up. If
Speaker 3: the water warms up, that they changed they food because
Speaker 3: they food comes close to the inlands. They gonna come
Speaker 3: close to the inland. That's just what we you. I
Speaker 3: guess one day we're gonna finally say it's people glo
Speaker 3: global warming.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if that's true, because
Speaker 1: I know some churchs don't like the worm of water.
Speaker 2: Well, it depends on what shock.
Speaker 3: And he had the smallert sharks stay in the warmer water,
Speaker 3: the colder I mean, the biggest sharks stay in cooler water,
Speaker 3: the bigger preying.
Speaker 1: Up in Cape cod which you always roast because you.
Speaker 3: Know what logan is, older person cause and say you
Speaker 3: know what fellas won't be in this week, going make case.
Speaker 1: I mean you were, you were, you were talking about
Speaker 1: Chicago like it was the Bahamas a second ago shown Chicago.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they did today city, but they
Speaker 3: just ran a mop over the city. They cleaned that
Speaker 3: city up. Man down to Chicago looks great. Man, I'm
Speaker 3: telling you that they don't even stink.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well that's enough summer recap.
Speaker 3: Yeah we did nothing so god Miami.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, we got a bunch of stuff we
Speaker 1: got to promote. So first off, we got a historical podcast, right,
Speaker 1: Hale's Tales. Yes, and we just had the Joe GiB
Speaker 1: Hiring episode or that's coming up. Jason, I'm confused.
Speaker 2: They just first high.
Speaker 1: Make sure you say that I know what you want
Speaker 1: to talk about the second hiring.
Speaker 3: Because oh yeah, they I can't wait till they do
Speaker 3: that tales so I can narrate it.
Speaker 1: We did it on the last episode, right, he talked
Speaker 1: about it if we did our own little mini Hale's tails.
Speaker 3: About the Hiss tales when they want to do it
Speaker 3: correct though, I'm gonna be there rating it started on
Speaker 3: the summer day. I was bored and nothing to do
Speaker 3: out there, and I just hit Coach Gibbs on the brain.
Speaker 1: Is that the last one? Or is there another one
Speaker 1: coming up? Two more?
Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, how many stories get the tail?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure he ain't involved in none of them, because is
Speaker 3: involved in one of them.
Speaker 4: Actually, I had to about facing its.
Speaker 2: Jay, Sorry for I love dude.
Speaker 1: I love how bad Fred wants to be in on this,
Speaker 1: like so badly. Friends like Jason, Please please let.
Speaker 3: Me make Jason like to see me hate it though.
Speaker 3: It's something, It does something, his hair perks.
Speaker 2: Something and everything like you Finally Fred hated though, and
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: So obviously that's a great show that's in our that's
Speaker 1: on our normal YouTube or not YouTube that's on our
Speaker 1: normal podcast feeds like Apple and Spotify. And then the
Speaker 1: big news drum roll, we got our People's Choice Podcast Awards.
Speaker 1: So apparently I didn't know this, but this is a
Speaker 1: big deal. And Tanna found out because he texted a
Speaker 1: bunch of people and they said, it's a big deal, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: people's choice. Yeah, people, the critics, the people. You better
Speaker 1: believe the critics would vote for that choice.
Speaker 3: But I hate critics because they don't know what to
Speaker 3: hear they talking about. Most of dad, the people know
Speaker 3: what they like. You can tell people what they like
Speaker 3: and consume the people.
Speaker 1: That's true. So the way this works is they have
Speaker 1: like a panel of experts and they vote on ten
Speaker 1: shows and we are one of those ten shows. And
Speaker 1: so now no more expert voting. It's only fan voting.
Speaker 1: So you can go online. There's a website. Jason, do
Speaker 1: you know the website because I don't know it.
Speaker 2: Podcast Awards dot com.
Speaker 1: Oh, easypasy. It's also in the description. So we need
Speaker 1: you guys to vote.
Speaker 4: Vote.
Speaker 1: All you need is an email, Tell your friends, tell
Speaker 1: your family, everybody to vote, because we could potentially win.
Speaker 1: If they want to win.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, and we want to win. This is
Speaker 3: the best podcast you get. What other show did you get?
Speaker 2: The smooth guy, the brain and just me At the
Speaker 2: end of the day, this is.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 3: So go out there vote for us, and when you
Speaker 3: do that, we are going to meet you at training
Speaker 3: camp and we're going to get a picture with all
Speaker 3: of us with you, and we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna actually sit down and chat with you too.
Speaker 1: Have to they have to prove it. Do they have
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Speaker 2: Yes, they should by sending.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got some merch left over.
Speaker 4: We got come most shirts left.
Speaker 6: I'm not above anything here, so we're this is a
Speaker 6: big deal. We're up against some ESPN podcasts and NFL
Speaker 6: Network podcasts and we're just we're a small market, well
Speaker 6: not a small market, but compared to the whole country.
Speaker 6: This is we're a small little group here.
Speaker 1: Because it recording closet.
Speaker 6: This is Daniel versus Eliath. So our fans really need
Speaker 6: to turn out for us. But I think what they
Speaker 6: can do.
Speaker 3: It I think we got a chance because we got
Speaker 3: fans all over the United States, all of the world.
Speaker 2: We got fans in our screare in London, all of
Speaker 2: them coming.
Speaker 3: Hey, show us some love. You know we the best.
Speaker 3: Don't lie to yourself, tell the truth.
Speaker 1: All you need is an email to vote. So let's see, Yes,
Speaker 1: a couple of emails.
Speaker 2: That's a couple of votes.
Speaker 4: We'll take it. Even if you don't like us, Just
Speaker 4: vote for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done that before. Maybe you show us proof.
Speaker 6: And when you email that hawk outside at gmail dot
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Speaker 2: Voted. Yeah, I've voted.
Speaker 1: And then obviously everyone wants to take a picture of
Speaker 1: Fred and we'll do that, no problem.
Speaker 6: So yeah, well we'll show you love.
Speaker 2: You show us love. We'll show you show love back.
Speaker 2: That's just where it is.
Speaker 1: And amongst all this love showing yeah, I love. We've
Speaker 1: got some really really exciting football related stuff happening.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: You know what it is, yep, training camp. It started today.
Speaker 1: Beginning the beginning of it all.
Speaker 3: Do y'all still get you still get kind of tingling,
Speaker 3: inchy and anxious?
Speaker 2: It is that no reason.
Speaker 1: I was trading some of my NFL guys last week
Speaker 1: and like they were all up in the thing. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we got I was like, thank god, I do that.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, like two days ago,
Speaker 3: I was like Chicago just zoned out.
Speaker 2: And then something came on like Training Captain this week,
Speaker 2: like oh.
Speaker 1: My god, like it's just this like Spider Send.
Speaker 2: Like it turned me on and I'm like, man, you know.
Speaker 3: What, like it's game time now, like and it ain't
Speaker 3: in shape, Like you know, that's the worst thing you
Speaker 3: want to do, show up not in shape. So I
Speaker 3: think were on the same clock as them. Now that
Speaker 3: we work, we were still on the same clock.
Speaker 4: Definitely on the same clock. And one of the things
Speaker 4: that I'm loving about to see that I'm in now
Speaker 4: is I ain't got to worry about practicing, So I
Speaker 4: get that all that vibration, that tingly feeling. But look,
Speaker 4: I come here and chat a couple of times with
Speaker 4: you guys, and I'm back in there. I worried about
Speaker 4: that test running, none of that.
Speaker 1: And the great thing about it is you guys can
Speaker 1: come out to training camp for free, I think, and
Speaker 1: watch practice and get that same vibe you know some
Speaker 1: of you guys are high school football players. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe I had in a while come out and get
Speaker 1: it here. Yeah, Washington, because I mean the vibes around
Speaker 1: the building right now front.
Speaker 3: Are they are electric? Yeah, they are electric, and you
Speaker 3: can see it. Everybody's smile. Everybody's on the up and up.
Speaker 3: The energy is different. Like even with the players, man, like,
Speaker 3: there's so many guys did not even lead it someone
Speaker 3: like we've been walking past these guys the whole time.
Speaker 3: Some of that tells me something is brewing and you
Speaker 3: need to come see what the rock got cooking.
Speaker 4: What you gotta think about it? It's new, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, you know one of the things
Speaker 4: that you've been around organizations and teams where when you
Speaker 4: when you kind of basically change everything Queen slate protocol.
Speaker 4: You got all these new bodies, you got these new staff,
Speaker 4: damn new building. Everything is kind of like new. So
Speaker 4: I'm getting that new feeling vibe. You know that new car.
Speaker 3: Fit field ain't nothing like that new Cosmel Cocker ugly,
Speaker 3: but I got that new costumeil in there.
Speaker 1: And coach Dan Quinn was on the Get Lid podcast,
Speaker 1: I guess with me and g and you coined the
Speaker 1: term that he's gonna steal and what is it called building?
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything about Washington Commander's start with the word.
Speaker 1: Building, which just said, right, I mean we are building.
Speaker 3: Like when y'all come watch training camp, y'all gonna notice
Speaker 3: these cranes and all these other stuff and these these
Speaker 3: construction guys because we're making this facility better because we builded.
Speaker 3: You gonna see the guys at them Pena's in the
Speaker 3: front office then walking on the sideline talking to other
Speaker 3: guys in the front office. You know why, because they
Speaker 3: builded and the owners they won't be at practice all
Speaker 3: the time because they're gonna bild it at the game stadium,
Speaker 3: trying to get in up to date because we builded.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, we're moving forward.
Speaker 3: And to do that sometime you got to tear the
Speaker 3: old stuff down and build something new.
Speaker 1: And that's what we were saying too, right, like just
Speaker 1: like it's everything is new. Everything's exciting, and I think
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, one of the questions on
Speaker 1: here is what's the difference between this season last season
Speaker 1: and like literally everything is new. Like obviously the owner
Speaker 1: was here last year with this is the first year
Speaker 1: that he's got to kind of put his stamp on it,
Speaker 1: get his people in the area, got Adam Peters. The
Speaker 1: team is new, the coaching staff is new, the buildings
Speaker 1: are new, and I think that does a lot to
Speaker 1: promote like optimism and optimism and energy and like ten
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been a part of
Speaker 1: a team like this, it's totally like reconstructing, Like was
Speaker 1: that was that how I was like when Mike was here?
Speaker 4: Sort of yeah, I think we kept more guys than
Speaker 4: that this staff did this year coming in, but you
Speaker 4: had that same feeling, you know, and especially having a
Speaker 4: new quarterback and McNab coming over that same year, so
Speaker 4: that was like something that was new for me and
Speaker 4: fresh and just you know, just watching that guy's you know,
Speaker 4: his career, playing against him in college. We was both
Speaker 4: in the Big East. He played at Syracuse. I'm playing
Speaker 4: for Miami, and to have him coming in it just
Speaker 4: opened my eyes, like, look, I get a chance to
Speaker 4: learn from McNabb, seeing what he did over there with
Speaker 4: all those other guys.
Speaker 3: And feeling give you your f like I gotta be
Speaker 3: a concrete quarterback, you know what I'm saying, no doubt, Fred,
Speaker 3: have you read anything like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I play here of the life like I've went through, so.
Speaker 1: That's a question. It was almost have you ever been
Speaker 1: here with a new owner anywhere anywhere you play, JOm.
Speaker 3: Rod I did in Minnesota, Ziggie Wilf had just bought
Speaker 3: the team from Red McConn.
Speaker 2: And what was that?
Speaker 4: Like he was.
Speaker 3: Feeling his way out and like, I think what we
Speaker 3: got with this ownership group is these guys already own
Speaker 3: other teams. Like when it came to Ziggie Wilf, they
Speaker 3: were brand new to sports. They had made they millions
Speaker 3: and billions doing something else and now they're into sports.
Speaker 3: So he was called I watched him called around to
Speaker 3: owners and see what should I do. First thing they
Speaker 3: told him is you're gonna have to get out the metro.
Speaker 3: Don it stinks we had to wear stadium in football.
Speaker 3: Now they got one of the best stadium. They were like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to rebuild the practice facility, one of
Speaker 3: the best practice Like so Ziggie Wiff and the will
Speaker 3: family took their time to line everything up while still
Speaker 3: trying to put a competitive football team out there. And
Speaker 3: I think that's the big challenge with ownership is I
Speaker 3: got to do a lot of business. Let me just
Speaker 3: lead the football to the football.
Speaker 1: That's kind of definitely what it feels like here, right.
Speaker 1: You mentioned what you're building, Yeah, kind of rants you
Speaker 1: just went on. Is that okay, called a ramp ye
Speaker 1: buildings around you know what I'm saying, Like, it's all
Speaker 1: these new things happening, and it's just if I've never
Speaker 1: been a part of a new ownership group before and
Speaker 1: so to see it kind of from this angle and
Speaker 1: like all the things that are going into making this
Speaker 1: football team better, it's just it's extremely ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Like people got to understand, like a calendar in football
Speaker 3: that twelve months.
Speaker 2: Go by quick.
Speaker 3: We just blinked and we were just finishing up the
Speaker 3: game last year, the last game of the year. Now
Speaker 3: we back history in the fresh new year, and I
Speaker 3: don't think we see how fast it come.
Speaker 2: As players.
Speaker 3: I think now that we don't got older and we
Speaker 3: just took a step back. We're like, man, the dude
Speaker 3: don't really get but like a month and a half,
Speaker 3: it's not really much to it. That's why I give
Speaker 3: little Tower the player. They say, you know what, I
Speaker 3: take a break when my career is old. Week Like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay disciplined the whole year round.
Speaker 1: So obviously the newness is something to be pretty excited about. Patanna,
Speaker 1: what are you most excited to see in this training camp?
Speaker 4: You know what what I'm and it might be odd
Speaker 4: for me to say this because I'm an offensive guy,
Speaker 4: but I'm looking forward to see our defense. I think
Speaker 4: our dark defense is really I'm looking forward to. I
Speaker 4: want to see that to nacity that I saw Joe
Speaker 4: with and you know, you know those guys play with
Speaker 4: over there in Dallas and Dallas. You know, I feel
Speaker 4: that some of the things that we saw in mini
Speaker 4: camp and in OTAs it just gave us a sneak
Speaker 4: peak of how things are going to be when they
Speaker 4: put on pads. And as we all know, we saw
Speaker 4: last training camp that our defense got out to a
Speaker 4: start and our offense had to catch up. That normally
Speaker 4: happens because the defense reacting to things, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean offensively, You know, if you're not putting your
Speaker 4: whole game plan in against your guys, things gonna be generic.
Speaker 4: So I think our defense being where they at right now,
Speaker 4: if I had to say today, who do I think
Speaker 4: have the better side without even watching them play, I
Speaker 4: would say defense. I would say defense because you look
Speaker 4: at the leaders we have at linebacker, you look at
Speaker 4: the guy we have at the front line, you look
Speaker 4: at the guys we have in the back end. All
Speaker 4: those guys, I think they're considerably better than what we
Speaker 4: have offensively, because one offensively, they got to get they
Speaker 4: have to jail, you have to know how.
Speaker 2: To time in the area.
Speaker 4: All these plays be on time with the ball, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. They have so much other things
Speaker 4: to learn. So normally defenses jump out in training car fast.
Speaker 4: Being that we have a defense that's going to play
Speaker 4: with that tenacity, that kind of attitude that you know,
Speaker 4: Joe whistpoke on, I'm pretty sure they're going to shop
Speaker 4: on our offense. And I want to see our offense
Speaker 4: rise to the challenge.
Speaker 1: And we got to see that today and you guys
Speaker 1: can see that too when you tune into our live
Speaker 1: show of practice which is on our YouTube page. Yes,
Speaker 1: Jason's giving me the yes, so make sure you check
Speaker 1: that out. It's awesome. We got great access, great coverage.
Speaker 1: So if you can't make it out to practice, make
Speaker 1: sure you join us to watch practice and watch that
Speaker 1: defense come to life. You know with us?
Speaker 2: Can we all agree that a sandwich? Right?
Speaker 1: Is there something to agree to list? Okay, sorry, you're
Speaker 1: not done.
Speaker 3: Can we agree that the most important part of a
Speaker 3: sandwich management whatever?
Speaker 2: You know, what's good that ain't get stuck right now? Now?
Speaker 2: The question is the most important part of a sandwich
Speaker 2: is what's in the middle, right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Because I can eat an open face sandwich with no bread,
Speaker 3: but it's still gonna have the middle right. That's how
Speaker 3: defenses are. We get better when the middle of the
Speaker 3: defense is better. I think about San Francisco, their linebackers,
Speaker 3: everything else go. Think about the Baltimore Ravens, but they
Speaker 3: had with Queen him make everything go. Every time I
Speaker 3: bring up a top five defense, it's gonna be some
Speaker 3: linebackers in there giving your team that identity.
Speaker 2: Your defensive line that show.
Speaker 3: That's that's show intimidators like these, the guys that make
Speaker 3: the quarterback uncomfortable. But the linebackers make everybody uncomfortable. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about running back linemen, wide receivers, tight ends. They
Speaker 3: reach out and touch everybody a T and T. So
Speaker 3: at the end of the day. No matter what we
Speaker 3: had last year. Once you make solidify out that middle
Speaker 3: like that, that's a plus two for the front and
Speaker 3: a plus two foot of back. I meaning they gonna
Speaker 3: make them two times better because of what you got
Speaker 3: in the middle. And then you ain't just get talent,
Speaker 3: you got some brain trust in there too. With Bobby Wagler,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, whatever.
Speaker 2: They could have been like last year, they're gonna meet
Speaker 2: that peak this year.
Speaker 4: Hey man, you just put us out on my face.
Speaker 4: Pretty good man. How he breaks that, I gotta give
Speaker 4: you your credit, right.
Speaker 1: And so for all your analytics stords out there are like, well,
Speaker 1: linebackers are devalued. They're not important when you look at
Speaker 1: the analytics. Now, let's look at the math. If you
Speaker 1: have a top ten linebacker at the position.
Speaker 2: Top ten defense, it.
Speaker 1: Elevates the defense. It elevates more than any other position
Speaker 1: on the defense. So I know, friends has a lot
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff, but good linebackers is and valuing them
Speaker 1: and valuing them appropriately. And it's just about whether we
Speaker 1: think Bobby Wagner and Frankie Louvu are those top ten
Speaker 1: type guys. But I think they definitely could be.
Speaker 3: Great lineback and cores can cover up a bad pass
Speaker 3: rush and a bad coverage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, and especially you know Frankie Louvu is his
Speaker 1: ability rush the pastor can wait to watch that.
Speaker 3: Jamie Davis, Like, this is what I want everybody to
Speaker 3: understand on Christmas. When we get those new toys, we
Speaker 3: love them new toys, but don't forget about the old toys. Like,
Speaker 3: don't forget about the old toys. You remember that that
Speaker 3: he you know what, he is just as fun as
Speaker 3: they Joe you got, So don't forget about Jamie Davis.
Speaker 2: They were time. You say Frankie Louvo, don't forget when
Speaker 2: you say Bobby Wagon, don't you.
Speaker 3: Forget about drum pain. People got to understand. For all
Speaker 3: the new pieces we got, the old ones, we kept
Speaker 3: the studs. We kept the studs and guess what, don't
Speaker 3: happen to them because everybody got better around them.
Speaker 2: They will get better. So don't forget about Jamie Davis
Speaker 2: and the rest of those old heads.
Speaker 1: And so for me, high level again, linebackers defense in
Speaker 1: general love both of those. I'm just excited to see
Speaker 1: kind of the staff come together, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And how they kind of guide practice and and you know,
Speaker 1: guide the joint practices and guide the preseason. And because
Speaker 1: they as much as the team's gotta jail, they gotta
Speaker 1: jail too. And if they gel kind of in the
Speaker 1: same way like good coaching can elevate bad players or
Speaker 1: I think that's something that I think the staff is
Speaker 1: capable of doing. But it's about how they come together.
Speaker 3: And uh, because we know how it is, it gets
Speaker 3: shippy over under.
Speaker 2: No, this ain't any fight. This is gonna be a
Speaker 2: verbal spar you know, the offensive coordinator defensive coordinating over another.
Speaker 3: How many days before Cliff keyesby and Wit go verbal
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 4: For some reason, I don't see that in Wit though
Speaker 4: he seemed like one of those guys he can even
Speaker 4: though he might get fired up, he know how to
Speaker 4: bring it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can see him taking the lift from
Speaker 3: Cliff and just looking at it.
Speaker 4: Though he looks like one of those guys that he
Speaker 4: might harp on his guys. Yeah, but he was worrying
Speaker 4: about about no coach, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's a good question, though.
Speaker 2: Question because because everybody get the ball.
Speaker 4: So since you say over and under, I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: three days day, I'm gonna say I take the but
Speaker 4: I say you take the over. I mean I said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I take the over. I take the over.
Speaker 2: But I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think I'm gonna see that all.
Speaker 2: I think. I think we go see it because I
Speaker 2: can see Kingsby.
Speaker 1: You know, we saw you come.
Speaker 2: The head coach.
Speaker 4: Now they get into a fight. Yeah, they get into
Speaker 4: a fight, which I think that might happen, you know,
Speaker 4: because we talked about this, but you have like the
Speaker 4: defense defense off and not the coaches. Now, I was like, god,
Speaker 4: if you know, because we talked about you know, hearing
Speaker 4: the guys say, man, you know I'm competing more now.
Speaker 4: You know, it's competitive, but a lot different than what
Speaker 4: it was before in the past. And so with that
Speaker 4: being said, most of the teams that I've been on
Speaker 4: that had had great talent, we got into a little
Speaker 4: spar matches here and there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So if now I would see a coach saying, hey, man,
Speaker 4: get your guys. Yeah, because we don't have to talk
Speaker 4: about hurting nobody.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, say, the only time we
Speaker 1: saw it get chippy during ot mini camp was when
Speaker 1: the players I think it was Terry or somebody started
Speaker 1: talking to the defensive sideline. That was the only time
Speaker 1: we got a little chippy.
Speaker 2: But but but we know that's coming. We know this
Speaker 2: coming doing training camp, and I'm telling you it's gonna
Speaker 2: be the defense that sparks it all.
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna say, oh, you're saying four days?
Speaker 3: Is that I'm saying, so what each other said three
Speaker 3: days and less before the first the first scuffle.
Speaker 1: If you're like, I think six is no.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna say three days because.
Speaker 3: Since you still like each other after, we're gonna have
Speaker 3: them playing so fast with their hair on fire. And
Speaker 3: you know it's gonna be one vetter to be like,
Speaker 3: hey man, you need you need to slow down, need
Speaker 3: to come down.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: This is how we played all this, this this new
Speaker 3: world that we're gonna do. Something's gonna happen. Something that's
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Me from the players more more so than the coaches.
Speaker 4: But I think you know, you got to think about
Speaker 4: the d Q is one of those guys too that
Speaker 4: he already fled up, start up.
Speaker 1: But like I will say, playing sure, he's to.
Speaker 4: Tell them guys like, look, we don't need you guys
Speaker 4: out of control because you gotta you know, tame, tame
Speaker 4: your guys. So we so they don't see us going
Speaker 4: at each other. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What is a you know, like he s he's an emotional,
Speaker 1: passionate guy right likes football. But you know, if you
Speaker 1: got in a fight down Atlanta, watch out. Yeah, no fighting.
Speaker 1: He no, he wasn't with that. No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. Fights good from morale. Man, break's
Speaker 1: having a camp. Let's get it going a little bit right.
Speaker 2: More swopping lip paint.
Speaker 4: It showed us in college. And I know it's just different, different,
Speaker 4: you know, but it showed us in college who we were.
Speaker 4: As soon as the one broke out in the field,
Speaker 4: coaches broke that thing up, sent us up to our rooms.
Speaker 4: And I remember that same received course I had that
Speaker 4: thtory abody I was telling you about. He came to me.
Speaker 4: He said, I found my dogs.
Speaker 2: Dogs. You gotta let dogs off the least, she said,
Speaker 2: I found my dog.
Speaker 4: He was sitting here the whole time he was he
Speaker 4: was barking, But I found I saw him out dad,
Speaker 4: and here in the battle and he said, and now
Speaker 4: I know who want to go to walk And that's
Speaker 4: it's set the table. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I remember when Chad Morten first walked up on the
Speaker 2: practice field.
Speaker 3: I'm marking an I'm marking there.
Speaker 2: I see a dog with a tail took between I
Speaker 2: gotta get it. Listen, man, that's the fun part of football.
Speaker 3: Like what other sport besides like boxing, do you get
Speaker 3: to take off your aggression.
Speaker 2: On your team?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: It is a special sport.
Speaker 2: It's a specials a special sport. Jesus.
Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about coaches there, coaches, high
Speaker 1: level stuff. Now let's talk about the players on this
Speaker 1: roster specifically. So I think, you know, like one of
Speaker 1: the things about training camp and like off seasons, like
Speaker 1: who's gonna make the team? Who's gonna make the team.
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to tell today, but I
Speaker 1: do think, but I do think there are guys that
Speaker 1: you know that are gonna make the team.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, like I went through and on my little spreadsheet
Speaker 1: here sopress idiots.
Speaker 3: Before we even start this, I just want to tell
Speaker 3: everybody because I'm tired of my eighties and my daughters
Speaker 3: I'm tired of my friend.
Speaker 2: Don't call me up by Sam Hartman. All right. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's single. I don't know, but you
Speaker 2: gotta stop asking me. All right now. I know my
Speaker 2: teammates when I was on the team. Oh, I know
Speaker 2: how my tea was throwing. Have y'all seen Fred Hartman? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am. Listen, I'm sick of time. The grocery store
Speaker 2: yesterday in.
Speaker 1: The fruit set, someone saw you were Sam Harvey.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they didn't like, Fred, how you doing
Speaker 2: what you think we're gonna do this year? Like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be good. I cannot You're in the fruit
Speaker 2: fruit sext. You know, I was buying fresh fruit. Then
Speaker 2: she's like, by the way, what about that, Sam Hartman.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what about it?
Speaker 3: Then I can see this lady over the another lady
Speaker 3: that when't even with her like Sam Hartman.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, is it like this,
Speaker 2: Yes it is, Yes, it is. I seen people have
Speaker 2: to come by looking at him run down the field
Speaker 2: in his hair.
Speaker 3: And slow motion bounce up and down. It's it's something
Speaker 3: to something.
Speaker 1: Something something to it.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Hey, I don't know. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 4: we have.
Speaker 7: These guys that make the team like this all the time.
Speaker 7: That's because they're attractive. Listen, we hey, Sam Harmon or
Speaker 7: regular face? Is this Sam Hartman a regular quarterback name?
Speaker 3: Or a different that I ain't met, but one Sam Hartmon.
Speaker 3: That's a different name. All right, that's a different name.
Speaker 4: You said always the names will tell you who.
Speaker 2: So a heart throb. Name's Sam Hartman. Yeah, oh, heart
Speaker 2: throw everywhere. I know.
Speaker 3: I should be his I should be his agent. I
Speaker 3: can give him all kind of contracts. Imagine giving your
Speaker 3: girl a Sam Hartman card for Valientie Day.
Speaker 6: Jason, So, speaking of Sam, My, my wife's best friend
Speaker 6: went to Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: So he's a big Notre Dame. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: So she my wife goes, hey, can my friend and
Speaker 6: I come and meet Sam Harmon?
Speaker 2: Your friend? Your friends certainly can't. What you're saying, you
Speaker 2: don't tell.
Speaker 1: I told Kelly. I told Kelly, my wife, that same story.
Speaker 1: She's like, she's like, how attractive this guy be? She
Speaker 1: pulls out her phone watching her. She goes, oh my, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all on.
Speaker 2: The cushion the text for sale Hartman. Right now, I
Speaker 2: really do love this.
Speaker 3: Now I know how people feel when I got here
Speaker 3: as a rookie, I really do understand that.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Question three. I love it, Sam Hartman.
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman, all right, so lord ha mer, we took
Speaker 1: a little little detour and there.
Speaker 4: Gonna get hisself in there involved in that. I'm kind
Speaker 4: of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I told you, like, I haven't been under this much
Speaker 3: tech with questions in.
Speaker 2: A long time. I'm like, do y'all think he's gonna
Speaker 2: start or something.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, want to, like, you know, they just
Speaker 4: hope he make the ruster where he can wear your.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's just like what okay?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: So I would the way the way the segment started
Speaker 1: was to talk about people that were gonna for sure
Speaker 1: make the team. Sam Hartman is not one of those people.
Speaker 1: If we start on offense the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: I say, Terry McLaurin and Johan Dotson, Luke McCaffrey receivers, right,
Speaker 1: they're gonna make the team. I say guarantee, guaranteed, and
Speaker 1: then I said probably o Z right, I'm.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure I want a guarantee number three.
Speaker 1: Al right, So then we go zach Ertz, Bensonatt John Bates.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we go with that bass blocker, so not just
Speaker 3: drafted ty Alright.
Speaker 1: Then we go offensive line, Cornelius Lucas, Brandon Coleman, Nick Algharetti, Yep,
Speaker 1: Tyler Pattish Ye, Sam Cosmy, Andrew Wiley, Yeah, Brian Robinson Jr.
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, and then Jayden Daniels Yes. And I think
Speaker 1: those guys, so that's fifteen guys. I think those guys
Speaker 1: for sure make the team right on offense. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense? So then if we go to receiver and
Speaker 1: you sayyone's like, oh, what's the position? Battle? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Battle? Terry number one?
Speaker 1: Right, Terry, And.
Speaker 3: We still don't know who number three is, just Tone,
Speaker 3: even though he's gonna make team as a draftee, we
Speaker 3: don't know is he the two number three?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: But then I look and I say, of the receivers,
Speaker 1: I think Oz is probably gonna make it all right,
Speaker 1: because three Because the reason I think that is because
Speaker 1: I think he can return kicks and soakn Luke McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: And then you say, then for all you fans watching
Speaker 1: at home keeping track of receivers, now, now you've got
Speaker 1: about twelve guys who are fighting for two spots.
Speaker 3: So and you got one of those bitteran returner is
Speaker 3: jameson Crowded. It showed that I got some left in
Speaker 3: the tank.
Speaker 1: But if but if those other two guys can return.
Speaker 2: Then all right they separate.
Speaker 1: So just so you know, we got Dax Milton, Janmy Brown,
Speaker 1: Mitchell Tinsley, Tamir Bird, Devon Davis, Rice and Tremaine Rosemy
Speaker 1: Jack Saint, Kasmi Allen, So eight guys.
Speaker 2: Allen is a return.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if those other two guys can return,
Speaker 1: you just cross those guys off the list.
Speaker 4: These other guys.
Speaker 2: I think it's a wide open race now.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what I'm saying when people say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a position battle, it's like those those first three guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in yeah, question would be too is and and
Speaker 4: this is just because you can do this with both groups.
Speaker 4: You can do this with the running backs too. If
Speaker 4: one of those receivers can return kicks and punts right now,
Speaker 4: it makes his chances greater.
Speaker 2: Alley, Yeah, now, but which one and receivers play gunner?
Speaker 2: The next question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then you go like Diami and then Brice
Speaker 1: and Tremaine play gunner and then roseby Jack saying before
Speaker 1: the hamstring played gunner. So it gets real tight, real quick.
Speaker 1: And that's why everyone says. I was listening to a
Speaker 1: show today and they were like, oh, why does special
Speaker 1: teams matter? Like why, like, why is it so hard
Speaker 1: to play special teams? And let me just say, you
Speaker 1: play teams. I played teams, everybody, Yeah, it is hard
Speaker 1: to play specialis.
Speaker 2: For one play, but one play in between all those out.
Speaker 1: Of play and like you got to be a little
Speaker 1: bit messed up in the head to play teams. And
Speaker 1: so when we go through this listener, we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy can play teams, but this guy might not
Speaker 1: be able to. It's because you're looking for that physicality,
Speaker 1: that toughness, that grit, that want to And that's why
Speaker 1: I think even though we got four guys, we got Terry, Johan, Luke,
Speaker 1: and Oz making the team. And we'll see those four
Speaker 1: those those remaining two spots, three spots. The guy's got
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of stuff.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to play a lot.
Speaker 1: Of right, Like they got to be good on teams.
Speaker 1: So that's where like again that battle comes into So
Speaker 1: when you're when you're a fan watching the receivers, it's like,
Speaker 1: ooh uh, you know, Mitchell Tinsley caught that pass touchdown,
Speaker 1: But I'm watching Brise and Tremaine make a tackle as
Speaker 1: a gunner. And which is gonna be more valuable in
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 2: Probably the latter, Yeah, because he ain't gonna have a
Speaker 2: chance to catch out.
Speaker 3: Okay, And when people got to understand the mindset of
Speaker 3: special teams, I want you all to do this first.
Speaker 3: Everybody gets drafted from college with the style on their team.
Speaker 3: I don't care how small the school was, I don't
Speaker 3: care how big this team the school would they would
Speaker 3: not play. They ain't play swash teams since high school.
Speaker 3: People get to the league haven't played special team.
Speaker 2: From high school. And now this is how you're gonna
Speaker 2: make a team.
Speaker 3: Like if the starter's gonna have to play smash team,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to play speach team. That's what makes
Speaker 3: special teams so hard and other thing about it. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be this select group of guys who only make
Speaker 3: their money for special teams, and they will bend you
Speaker 3: over backwards.
Speaker 4: Yea all the time. Though, Man, you can always tell
Speaker 4: the good programs because it didn't matter how much of
Speaker 4: a star you was offensively or defensively. Like I literally
Speaker 4: in the Florida State game, two touchdowns underscored and the
Speaker 4: hundred something that yards, I was a flyer. I was
Speaker 4: running down there making tackles, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's like when you have those big games, coaches
Speaker 4: called upon certain guys like, look, you're gonna need to
Speaker 4: play from you. You my gun or you my fly,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You're one of those guys
Speaker 4: that because we need every guy on the field that's
Speaker 4: going to make a difference in each phase. So that's
Speaker 4: why it's an easier transition for some of those guys
Speaker 4: come from big schools because we're gonna have to play
Speaker 4: to play bunch of teams, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So so you got to take a chance of those guys.
Speaker 4: So the ones who don't fit that quotal, then yeah,
Speaker 4: they won't be the team. Teams is special. You know,
Speaker 4: we got a lot of We got a lot of
Speaker 4: guys I think on this roster that can do so specially.
Speaker 3: I've been saying every play, every series starts and in
Speaker 3: with special teams, not out.
Speaker 2: It's not defense start with special teams with special team.
Speaker 1: So another group that I think is really interesting is
Speaker 1: the offensive line because they usually keep nine. But there's
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes here. And again like there's there's
Speaker 1: names like you know, like Chris Paul or whoever, Brandon Daniels,
Speaker 1: guys that were drafted. But like this new.
Speaker 2: Staff clean slate protocol, they got no love for you.
Speaker 1: I hate to break like.
Speaker 4: You just got to be done.
Speaker 2: This guy right, yeah, yeah, this got throat.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying though, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like it was like he was a draft pickers or
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and it's like they don't care. They
Speaker 1: want the best nine guys to play. So we just
Speaker 1: went through Cornelia Sukus, Brandon Coleman, Nick Algareaty Tyler, Biadis
Speaker 1: sham Cosy, Andrew Wiley. After that, throw it up in there,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 3: Think that's for everybody, and I think his office labor.
Speaker 3: You got to feel good about it because you don't
Speaker 3: feel like no favorites gonna get played.
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
Speaker 1: That's a great point.
Speaker 3: Oh, you can ask for like I got a clean slate,
Speaker 3: And I want to tell people this because I hear
Speaker 3: I love my sports talk radio and I list to
Speaker 3: it out of time, but I hate one track minded
Speaker 3: people that think just because something happened last year, this
Speaker 3: is who you are. No, this office allowed has a
Speaker 3: chance to be ten times better than they was last year.
Speaker 3: It was it was so many bearables in there, all
Speaker 3: them sex went sam, all them sex when the offense
Speaker 3: aligned me. You don't know what the office scheme is.
Speaker 3: You don't know what we move in the pocket more,
Speaker 3: you don't know what it is. Stop saying what the
Speaker 3: weakness of the team is before the season even start.
Speaker 2: That makes me sick to my stomach because what.
Speaker 3: Used to be your script last year could easily be
Speaker 3: your weakness this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like for this one, I think the
Speaker 1: one thing we're going to talk about is left tackle
Speaker 1: here because you got Trent Scott, Cornelis Ugus, Brandon Coleman
Speaker 1: all kind of vying for the same thing. I think,
Speaker 1: like to your point, like, we don't really know what
Speaker 1: the offense is going to look like, so I think like,
Speaker 1: for example, if you want to throw the ball out,
Speaker 1: you probably want Cornellia used to play right, and you're
Speaker 1: going to run the ball more, you probably want Trent
Speaker 1: Scott to play. Yeah, right, and if Brandon Coleman develops
Speaker 1: like and that's a big piece right in terms of
Speaker 1: developmental guys. But that's one running back to me, seems
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. The top two guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then what happens with I'm glad you Chris
Speaker 3: Rodriguez and Wiley and the rest of you do because
Speaker 3: you said something that I think this the people on
Speaker 3: this team have to really say, you know what, I'm
Speaker 3: so happy we got new coaches, but I understand ain't
Speaker 3: no love here, meaning they're only gonna take the people
Speaker 3: who allow them to keep their job as a starting
Speaker 3: coach in his lead.
Speaker 2: If you keep me hired, I'm good.
Speaker 1: And so that's one that I think is really interesting
Speaker 1: because I love Chris Rodriguez. I did a great job.
Speaker 4: I share just something today was put together man.
Speaker 1: Big old hoss, right. But I think they also like
Speaker 1: Michael Wiley and Austin Jones those so I think it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's and then obviously Jermen McNichols to
Speaker 1: it running back, Yeah, any one of those guys depending
Speaker 1: on what they wanted the position.
Speaker 2: Depending on what they already got.
Speaker 3: Because I'm one of those people is I can't repetitively
Speaker 3: get the same skill set, Like you got to think
Speaker 3: about it. B Rob, to me, he'll a bit of slasher.
Speaker 3: He has a little bit of brawler. He's a little
Speaker 3: bit of He can catch the ball.
Speaker 1: That I stay at Minnie Camp the way he caught
Speaker 1: the football in the seam. Yeah, it looked like a
Speaker 1: tight end. Man. He did a great job.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when I look at b Rob, I don't look
Speaker 3: at him as just an a gap b gap run.
Speaker 2: I look at a guy that can do everything.
Speaker 3: Now you got Ikla maybe on the back end, but
Speaker 3: still a great slasher, still a great pass box, and
Speaker 3: still can catch out the back field. So now you say, okay,
Speaker 3: do we want to change a pace back is the
Speaker 3: third back? Do we want to power back since we
Speaker 3: already got that? Yeah, do we want something that wild?
Speaker 3: He brings to the That's the thing about it. Like
Speaker 3: what in then, especially with an outfensive mind like Kingsby,
Speaker 3: Like he's used to his running backs being part of
Speaker 3: the receiving girl.
Speaker 2: So if you not a back that catches a lot,
Speaker 2: does that work against you?
Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, that's why I couldn't set
Speaker 1: it better myself. That's exactly right. And what's interesting too
Speaker 1: is that third back is probably competing with the fourth
Speaker 1: tight end, So he's competing with Armandah Rodgers, Yeah, Cold Turner, Polston, Yankov.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to keep four, I think all
Speaker 1: those guys have a legitimate shot of making the team.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because it just depends on
Speaker 1: what we want to be, right, Colston Yanko played a
Speaker 1: little bit of running back, can play a little full back,
Speaker 1: good teams player, perfect guy, got Amani Rodgers kind of
Speaker 1: the physical freak. But that's the tough part about rosters
Speaker 1: and why camp is so important. I know we saw
Speaker 1: the first day today, but like it's all these pieces
Speaker 1: competing with each other.
Speaker 2: And you break up with a guy like Yanko.
Speaker 3: What about scenarios where you feel like a guy he
Speaker 3: there but he ain't really really to play.
Speaker 2: But I know if I cut him, I see the
Speaker 2: thing we don't somebody's going to sign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, Fred, because I
Speaker 1: think he was so badly miscast at UCLA. He was
Speaker 1: playing running back, yeah, straight running like not full back.
Speaker 1: Tail back, yeah, tailback and I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 1: people were like, he's not a tailback whatever. So I
Speaker 1: think the fact that he is kind of going to
Speaker 1: be under the radar for a lot of teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope you can get in a practice squad, but
Speaker 1: if you think you're gonna lose him and he has
Speaker 1: a good camp.
Speaker 2: But just not him. But what about the the say five.
Speaker 3: Players just right there on the bubble where a guy
Speaker 3: in front of you might be out playing you, but
Speaker 3: I'd rather.
Speaker 2: And lose him.
Speaker 1: Like, so it's as I'm glady said the word bubble, Like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean to you?
Speaker 4: Tannel?
Speaker 1: When you hear the word bubble, what does that mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't even know. I want to think of
Speaker 4: one bubble. You either gonna be here, you ain't bus
Speaker 4: you're the guy on the put you on the cuss
Speaker 4: you that guy? You know what I mean? Because you
Speaker 4: know when I think a bubble, I think about that guy.
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, man, you may have been here and
Speaker 4: you been that guy once once upointed time, but now
Speaker 4: you're in the bubble. Now it's not a for sure
Speaker 4: thing for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Or you may be a guy that we just brought
Speaker 4: in and you on the bubble to making the team.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? So you have you have
Speaker 4: different ways to look at it, but both of them.
Speaker 2: When's the arrow upon it? Yeah? But to me, when.
Speaker 3: When I say bubble, they mean you at that, you
Speaker 3: at the you're on the rim, and you can fall
Speaker 3: in with the.
Speaker 4: Group, you can fall out.
Speaker 2: You can fall out with the group.
Speaker 3: Uh, you might be one injured you away from locking
Speaker 3: on this team. You want healthyer guy away from not
Speaker 3: even being on the team. Like, so when you say bubble,
Speaker 3: I say circumstances. You say bubble, I say your circumstances
Speaker 3: might work in your favor.
Speaker 2: I just seen guys be a bubble guy for ten years.
Speaker 3: But I also see a guy be on the bubble
Speaker 3: for three days and never play again, never being leaked.
Speaker 3: So when it say bubble, you on the cuss and
Speaker 3: the problem me is dead. Where are you special on
Speaker 3: any special teams?
Speaker 2: Like we keep coming back to the special team.
Speaker 3: If you on a bubble, what's gonna make you better
Speaker 3: than that next man?
Speaker 2: Positionally? What do you do on special team?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? And I think you know I was a
Speaker 1: bubble guy for majority of my career, probably ten years,
Speaker 1: you know, nine, ten years, and it's it's stressful and tough,
Speaker 1: but it comes down to can we trust you to
Speaker 1: do it? Do you fill a role like can you
Speaker 1: play teams if we need you to? Indpension one hundred percent?
Speaker 3: Souse out there with my kids in Chicago, blowing bubble,
Speaker 3: saying logan, saying your name.
Speaker 2: Look at them logans in there.
Speaker 7: Hell yeah.
Speaker 1: So we just did the offense. We're gonna run through
Speaker 1: the defense real quick. So I got this is just me.
Speaker 1: You can tell me if I'm wrong. I got Durrance Armstrong,
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler, Doron Payne, Jonathan Allen, Deshn Newton. Is interesting
Speaker 1: because if he starts on the pup, which we'll find
Speaker 1: out we found out.
Speaker 2: I'll probably say he did, but he got a roster.
Speaker 1: He's because it's a college injury. He'd start on the
Speaker 1: non football injury list. What is that? And and I
Speaker 1: have he did a full week of six weeks, but
Speaker 1: he's on that, So that saves your roster.
Speaker 4: Used to be like six six to eight weeks.
Speaker 1: I think it's six weeks, legit. That saves your roster.
Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind when I'm doing this.
Speaker 4: Count.
Speaker 1: Then you got Cleveland Fairer, Frankie Louvi, Bobby Wagner, Jordan
Speaker 1: McGee yep, Mike Sanders, Still Kawan Martin, Benjamin Saint Juice. See,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in a second, Jeremy Chin, Dominie Campton.
Speaker 1: And then we got Emmanuel Forbes and Davis and did
Speaker 1: you say dfo he's on here? DeForest and Percy with
Speaker 1: the other guys I had, I have question marks next
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 3: Yours is getting very intriguing because a couple of questions
Speaker 3: mark you got.
Speaker 2: I think, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: And we're not saying these people are gonna make a
Speaker 1: team that, No, this is just to give you an idea.
Speaker 1: That's seventeen guys. Yeah, so I feel like those guys
Speaker 1: are gonna probably make the team right now. It's about
Speaker 1: like if you look at the D line, yep, right,
Speaker 1: let's go start there, right, you got John Ridgeway versus
Speaker 1: Big Phil versus versus really Noel Pollard, the rookie from
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and Benny Putoye. Right, and so obviously if
Speaker 1: Gerson's healthy, you only keep one of those guys.
Speaker 4: Which way?
Speaker 3: But right, I think so I'm just saying rich Way
Speaker 3: has shown me I'll be there when you need me
Speaker 3: and tell me I don't care if.
Speaker 2: It's the ninety seven player in the game and it's
Speaker 2: my first place.
Speaker 1: I am Red d And obviously dan Quinn and his
Speaker 1: staff drafted him to Dallas. Yes, they know him really well.
Speaker 1: The other one I just want to kind of highlight
Speaker 1: here is Noel Pop Pollard because he has a ton
Speaker 1: of he remember he had the highest pass rush running percentage.
Speaker 1: I think it was the third in the nation. I
Speaker 1: watched the Key and talk about someone with juice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude's got juice.
Speaker 1: And so guys with juice, they didn't make the team.
Speaker 1: I just they just find you know, like your your
Speaker 1: cleming story. You were telling us before the show shot juice,
Speaker 1: he got juice might make the team.
Speaker 4: So just but could he be one of those guys
Speaker 4: that make the practice squad and just be you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Maybe and then like up and down?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But he wasn't a sneaky guy that other people wanted
Speaker 3: to side. So how we got Ridgeway, how we stole
Speaker 3: him from the Cowboy.
Speaker 2: We can put him on the press squad. No, you can't, because.
Speaker 3: We've been We've Benna bring him up, Like, I think
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys.
Speaker 2: If he get going, he won't make it tap right.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is like all those dudes after
Speaker 1: those first three guys are in a competition for one spot.
Speaker 1: And obviously if Treson's I think he is on that list,
Speaker 1: that college injury list, you keep one more. But there
Speaker 1: is a world where Fiderian Mathis does make this team.
Speaker 3: Most definitely, or or John Ridgeway, I say, I ridge
Speaker 3: away on somebody else put it like this. I talked
Speaker 3: about it with coach Queenn doing the get Lab podcast
Speaker 3: makes you glat with me and Michael Jenkins, great promo. Hey,
Speaker 3: we talked about good teams have to cut good plays, absolutely,
Speaker 3: and he like, you can't be afraid that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I think, just to give you the landscape
Speaker 1: of that deep Ed Rusher, Dorn Armstrong, Dante Fowler, Cleveland Ferrell,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, honestly, you probably keep five there.
Speaker 1: So I think kJ Hendrey Andre Jones are in because
Speaker 1: I think that I think starts on the pup list,
Speaker 1: and then John Baptist's seven round pick probably gets the
Speaker 1: practice to get him on the prec squad unless he
Speaker 1: balls out, then he makes it.
Speaker 3: I think you want to book him up. That was
Speaker 3: his thing in college. He was long loans grown, but
Speaker 3: didn't have enough weight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now, okay, so that's it. I think that's
Speaker 1: we feel good about that. But all of those guys
Speaker 1: are competing for a spot. Yeah, they are like who's
Speaker 1: got the most jews, who fits the role linebacker? Same thing,
Speaker 1: Frankie Lou, Bobby Wagner, Jordan McGee, and I'd probably put
Speaker 1: Anthony Pittman above Jamon Davis Lord to think about this though,
Speaker 1: Think about this. He he's a guy, he needs a
Speaker 1: lot of reps to play linebacker, and you're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: put him next to Bobby Wagner. I'd be great. He's
Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot. He played edge rusher this whole offseason.
Speaker 3: This what I want him to be. I've been waiting
Speaker 3: for him to beat us, but it's rush for the
Speaker 3: long Like.
Speaker 1: Think about Fred. Let me just say this to you.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this before you get on your
Speaker 1: from my high. When was the last time you saw
Speaker 1: somebody switch positions. He's not switching in the off season.
Speaker 1: He is. He's playing defensive end. And make the team.
Speaker 2: I have seen it a million times.
Speaker 3: But what I'm talking then, what I'm talking about, you
Speaker 3: can't even tell us what side initiale, what defense are
Speaker 3: we running?
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 1: It's basic?
Speaker 2: Multiple front, multiple fronts, run multiple fronts.
Speaker 3: What they saw in their film is if I exked
Speaker 3: Jamie Davis to check wires, I mean running backs out
Speaker 3: the backfield, he can. If I ask him to stand
Speaker 3: up and run sideline the sideline, he can. I've watched
Speaker 3: it for four years, three years. What I want to
Speaker 3: see him do is use this four four speed to
Speaker 3: get and rush to pass them. I know he can
Speaker 3: do the other things. He's proven to me he can
Speaker 3: do them. Not at a Pro Bowl level, but he
Speaker 3: can do them at a PROS level. I think what
Speaker 3: they're saying is, even with Frankie louver as much as
Speaker 3: I've seen him move him around, I think they're gonna
Speaker 3: have these guys imagine this picture. This we think is
Speaker 3: a DEFENSI end on his team, the Cleveland Farrells.
Speaker 2: Outside of these guys will be a Frankie Louvu and
Speaker 2: the Jamie Davis. I know what they want to do.
Speaker 3: They want to get speed matched up on this with
Speaker 3: Wagner and what's his name sitting back as the perennial
Speaker 3: stand up backers.
Speaker 1: So the reason I say he's a question mark to
Speaker 1: me in addition to this position change is I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I think they do want speed on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so why not put Dominice Campton, Percy Butler, Derrek Forest Chair,
Speaker 1: Mike Sanders still as that extra linebackers. When you watched
Speaker 1: Dallas last year, they're in dime.
Speaker 2: But guess what but bringing it.
Speaker 4: They were bringing guys like following in and they would
Speaker 4: curse the bringing different guys.
Speaker 3: Getting rent on them. And I talked to you and
Speaker 3: they were like, the one thing that we didn't right
Speaker 3: it Dall is we didn't have enough big I mean
Speaker 3: running dudes on the second level. That's why they got
Speaker 3: bigger backers here to be able to take on the
Speaker 3: run like they don't want to get gooded like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, they did play like that.
Speaker 3: They said, we got the right idea, we just got
Speaker 3: the wrong personnel. We need to figure out the personnel
Speaker 3: on the field.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of with Fred on that. I think Jamie
Speaker 4: is one of those guys that he's so athlected. He's
Speaker 4: so afgected. He's very gifted and you can see last
Speaker 4: year is probably his best year that no one give
Speaker 4: him credit for. He was still getting used playing linebacker
Speaker 4: and probably wasn't playing his best, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like he's a guy that I don't think he still
Speaker 4: hasn't reached his ceiling.
Speaker 2: And that's not even close.
Speaker 4: It's still there, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: want I won't be against I think he gonna go
Speaker 4: out there and rate lot of eyebrow showing you the hostel.
Speaker 4: I can do this. I can do this because now
Speaker 4: he's in a situation he like a football, but he's
Speaker 4: a guy that put him on the field on defense they.
Speaker 2: Go chase run wild.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, And that's what I've seen from him
Speaker 4: at the linebacker positions. Half the time he knows what
Speaker 4: he's doing. Halftime he doesn't, but he's somewhere around the ball.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So and so I guess that's what I'm you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of stuff to watch, like does he do that?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because they got guys like
Speaker 1: Pittman had a really good off season, multiple interceptions, played linebacker,
Speaker 1: Louvu McGee really good off seasons. Obviously Bobby had a
Speaker 1: good offseason, and they were playing linebacker, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's something as a fan when i
Speaker 1: come in and I'm watching this and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: what they did in the spring they do now, it's
Speaker 1: like where does does he have a role? Does he fit?
Speaker 1: Does he do what you're describing or does he or
Speaker 1: does he not pick up the pass rush stuff?
Speaker 2: And I think he picks up the pass rush stuff.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Right as of the Chris cleaning thing, that's why I'm
Speaker 3: so glad you brought Chris up.
Speaker 2: They got the same bodybuild like people thought Chris was
Speaker 2: too small.
Speaker 4: Lad thought he was just like he was talking like
Speaker 4: a basketball.
Speaker 2: He's a tweener, all right.
Speaker 3: And so they had Chris standing up at the beginning
Speaker 3: of training camp. They let him rush the pass against
Speaker 3: Chris Samuels. One practice after that, I have never seen
Speaker 3: Chris Clemens stand up again.
Speaker 2: You know why.
Speaker 3: They understand when his hand is in the dirt when
Speaker 3: he comes off of this ball, that that first step.
Speaker 2: Is quicker than anything you can see.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is I think what they saying
Speaker 3: is with Jamie, he's been used wrong. Let's use him
Speaker 3: right and see can we get it all out of him.
Speaker 3: I think they're more excited about Jamie than most people
Speaker 3: think that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so, I mean I really do, because
Speaker 1: I want these guys to make the team. Fans, because
Speaker 1: you said a couple of names on defense, I was like,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying though, Like they have no
Speaker 1: tie to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no they don't.
Speaker 1: If it don't work, no, no it don't work.
Speaker 2: No it does it.
Speaker 3: But I know they have a tie of good talent,
Speaker 3: and I think he's a good talent.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I think blindbacker obviously because of Jamie Davis.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting and like just how the depth charts
Speaker 1: office right, And then I look at the defensive backs
Speaker 1: and that's like like they're proud. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do, and just I think on the outside,
Speaker 1: I said Benjamin Saint Juice right, seems that way.
Speaker 2: You know what, I can say this about the Juice man.
Speaker 3: Talk to me about him, all right, and this is
Speaker 3: gonna be true and it's gonna always hold up. He's
Speaker 3: with Dan Quinn and dan Quinn loves tall long um coms.
Speaker 3: I talked to him coming out of school. He was
Speaker 3: not effectuated by nothing else about me besides my arms.
Speaker 1: Did he really you talk to you coming out school?
Speaker 2: Just damn dums?
Speaker 1: Where was he?
Speaker 2: Well? Was he? He wasn't green Not at Green Bay?
Speaker 2: Was he at Green Bay? Was he somewhere?
Speaker 3: But he liked like That's why he had brown and
Speaker 3: brown on and Richard like he said, Richard was just
Speaker 3: so good at jamming.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't gonna let Richard play his face.
Speaker 3: He likes conas now, but that he does love ConA
Speaker 3: with thieves.
Speaker 2: He loved hands like he's about turnovers.
Speaker 3: And if I look at a guy and say, who's
Speaker 3: more predicated to have a great.
Speaker 2: Year not a good year? In this defense? Corner wise,
Speaker 2: is it Forbes? Is it Saint Juice?
Speaker 4: To me?
Speaker 2: Is Forbes? Forbes is the corner they like because.
Speaker 3: They like x Y receivers. They like x y receivers
Speaker 3: who get their ball. They don't care about you getting beat.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get beat. But if we get to mid season,
Speaker 3: and let's say, let's say we get to the ten game,
Speaker 3: and Saint Jews has no interceptions. We're used to that,
Speaker 3: and everybody that studied him. He has two interceptions in
Speaker 3: his last seven years of his career, going back to college.
Speaker 3: I don't think that does it for wit Rich like
Speaker 3: his corners to get the ball. I think the starting
Speaker 3: parent is going to be Saint Juice in Forbes off
Speaker 3: for length a long.
Speaker 1: But no Davis David.
Speaker 3: I think it's just third guy in the outside rotation,
Speaker 3: in the inside rotation.
Speaker 2: I think Sandy Square gonna get reps. But I think
Speaker 2: it has started off more, uh, play safety out.
Speaker 1: The nickel.
Speaker 2: I think Kuanna start off the nickel.
Speaker 3: While he wrote tasts his safety, I think they want
Speaker 3: to store him off his safety, I mean corner. So
Speaker 3: when they do start putting him in safety, you wanted
Speaker 3: to win where he's it, he's your peace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so I look at that and I
Speaker 1: say that seems pretty straightforward. Then obviously, like Noig Monogany
Speaker 1: is probably in the mixed there at some point.
Speaker 2: But Mike, Mike Davis, I'm sorry he's not there too.
Speaker 4: But the Davis one of those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but then you got Jeremy Chin, Dominic Campton,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Reeves, Derek Forrest, Percy Butler, Kwan Martin and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: those are the kind of safeties And to me, safety
Speaker 1: is maybe the most compelling position because it seems like
Speaker 1: they all are gonna a lot of those guys will play.
Speaker 1: Five of those guys will play in this defense.
Speaker 4: So you hear be read I see Forrest playing to
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Forrest come back and get his job.
Speaker 1: Do you start again? But I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: we're trying to do with his exercise is like, we
Speaker 1: don't know. That's what's a good thing.
Speaker 4: Don't know.
Speaker 2: That's a good thing that we don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's something I'm excited to see.
Speaker 1: Is you know the Jamon Davis is like, how does
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle shake out? But number one on defense
Speaker 1: to me, safety because they use everybody. You know, they
Speaker 1: got dimes, they got Nickels, they got big, big safety linebackers,
Speaker 1: they got pass rushing linebackers, they got they rotate these
Speaker 1: three kind of in the back end. Jeremy Chin coming in,
Speaker 1: who's got like this perfect body type of what they
Speaker 1: want to do. So I don't know. And then a
Speaker 1: guy that I think could be disrupted on the outside
Speaker 1: is chanoga Enusium the kid from Colorado?
Speaker 2: Right, say that again?
Speaker 1: No, No, that's wrong. I know Anusium?
Speaker 2: Is this? Is it? The academic accolades of the Pulses?
Speaker 2: Is this the pols? And we get all right with.
Speaker 1: So obviously we talked about who's on the bubble, who
Speaker 1: needs to improve? With all that stuff. Really excited to
Speaker 1: watcha offense defense develops. Yeah, and now let's talk about
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of fans coming out to training camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's teach them how to watch practice.
Speaker 2: Let's do that. Let's do that.
Speaker 1: So what are the steps in training camp evaluation?
Speaker 2: Tanna?
Speaker 4: Do you want to start?
Speaker 1: Because I know Fred has been talking this whole time.
Speaker 4: I mean, he has been talking talking too much. I
Speaker 4: think one of the things that that stands out to me,
Speaker 4: I wrote it down, but I won't even go out.
Speaker 4: You should be the top of my head still. And
Speaker 4: this is just from being a receiver some of the
Speaker 4: things I thought they was watching, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: when they when they kind of evaluating what they're you know,
Speaker 4: what they're seeing. I think they see they watching to
Speaker 4: see how can we transfer what we learned in the
Speaker 4: classroom to the field.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, uh.
Speaker 4: One on one competition battles, our battles one on one
Speaker 4: wise and then how are you in that team setting?
Speaker 4: How many plays you're making individually? All right? Do you
Speaker 4: have your alignment and your assignment and when the ball
Speaker 4: coming your way do you make your play?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 4: And when the ball is not coming your way do
Speaker 4: you go out there and make sure you're protecting or
Speaker 4: blocking black side and all that stuff as a receiver.
Speaker 4: That's the kind of evaluation that I think that we
Speaker 4: go through far as you know, you know from I
Speaker 4: guess you can say a coaching level.
Speaker 1: You know, if a fans watching that practice, what you
Speaker 1: look out for.
Speaker 4: So so, if a fan watching practice, they should watch.
Speaker 4: I mean, for the for the most part, friend watching
Speaker 4: the guys they like, you know what I mean, they
Speaker 4: not really caring about.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you're feeling if I'm you try to teach them,
Speaker 3: say this is how you take the most out of
Speaker 3: NFL practice by watching this, this and this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so well this is how I would say. Look
Speaker 4: at it like this. If if I'm telling the fan,
Speaker 4: when you're come into practice and you come in and
Speaker 4: check it out, watch the guys that's holding the water.
Speaker 4: I'm being watch the guys that's holding the water, because
Speaker 4: the guys are holding the water normally going to the
Speaker 4: guys that's making the place. Yeah, this.
Speaker 2: Word level stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm being funny, but by the same time, I'm telling
Speaker 4: you the guys that's holding the water going to the
Speaker 4: guys that's making the place, that's going on the field.
Speaker 4: But to be on, be on, be on, the be
Speaker 4: on the upside of just seeing it's it's gonna be,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be phases in practice, And like I said before,
Speaker 4: you're gonna get the different dress one on one battles,
Speaker 4: watching them one on one battles, you're gonna get the
Speaker 4: ooze in the odds from there. Then when you get
Speaker 4: to the team periods, you're watching your guys, whoever your
Speaker 4: guy is offensively, off, your guy defensively. But to me,
Speaker 4: I don't think a fan really comes to practice trying
Speaker 4: to look at you know what I mean, who's who's
Speaker 4: doing what? They're gonna watch everybody and just want some
Speaker 4: damn aatterograss after the game anyway, And then when you
Speaker 4: tell them this guy, this guy stay on the team
Speaker 4: and this guy getting cut, then they's gonna they're gonna
Speaker 4: settle for that or or be all right with it.
Speaker 4: But I don't think they're out there really trying to evaluate,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Who's who's gonna make the squad?
Speaker 4: You tell me?
Speaker 3: I think I think this is what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: First of all, fans, keep up with the schedule. Understand
Speaker 3: the schedule of practice. Once you understand the schedule of practice,
Speaker 3: understand what's relevant and what's irrelevant. There looking at ver
Speaker 3: what's relevant, I'm gonna tell him sort out with what's
Speaker 3: not ra When we're scratching before practice, that's not.
Speaker 2: That's not relevant.
Speaker 3: Now, Jewels, you'll see us do our individual drills, and.
Speaker 2: It's boring to y'all.
Speaker 3: This backpilling, this cuttin, it's coming out of breaks, just
Speaker 3: doing this this tedious running this route, getting at the
Speaker 3: top of the block.
Speaker 2: Stem like they are, y'all not gonna be into that.
Speaker 3: Now when we get into the one on ones competition,
Speaker 3: this when y'all are gonna start to really get your
Speaker 3: Your ears are gonna start to.
Speaker 4: Perk up oo's and as all right.
Speaker 3: First of all, I like how they do one on
Speaker 3: ones because they do two on tools here where they
Speaker 3: do wire receiver slot versus corner in slot.
Speaker 2: So I enjoy that.
Speaker 3: Make sure you watch that so now you get to
Speaker 3: see people work without all the living being on the field.
Speaker 3: Of course, you love to see Jade drop in at
Speaker 3: sixty yard route where they warming up with the wire receiver.
Speaker 3: It look good, they feel good. Don't worry about him
Speaker 3: doing that they do on one on one because he
Speaker 3: go to trooth about one on one the wire receiver
Speaker 3: got the whole damn field and we got nothing right.
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest.
Speaker 3: If you if you're a quarterback close to that wire
Speaker 3: cver when he catched that ball to knock it down,
Speaker 3: you did your job.
Speaker 2: Nicks.
Speaker 3: All you need to worry about this team drills. Like
Speaker 3: when I say team drills, when you see seven.
Speaker 1: On seven, Sorry, would you say that's the most important thing?
Speaker 4: I was want to say for the fans, for the fans,
Speaker 4: so no, I would say, and I don't want to
Speaker 4: take you out. Seven on seven is what the fans
Speaker 4: like more because you got to think and team especially
Speaker 4: if we're not thudding, we're not hit them. Watching a
Speaker 4: running back run through the hole and not get tackled,
Speaker 4: it's like okay, golf clap, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Seven on seven when you seeing those guys really we
Speaker 4: running routes against each other against So I would think
Speaker 4: a seven on seven or matchup would be more exciting
Speaker 4: for you know, for the fan base. But but I
Speaker 4: don't think the team would be something that they're looking
Speaker 4: forward to because we're not really live, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, not really live.
Speaker 3: But I think once they see us all in unison
Speaker 3: in action like this where they get those now even
Speaker 3: at the back, not getting here, but if they just
Speaker 3: talked to him a pinch and he he faints one
Speaker 3: guy like they want this is what they want to see.
Speaker 3: This where the lights that the cameras are flashing, this
Speaker 3: where everything's happening all like say, take it in like
Speaker 3: a practice. Don't leave this practice, like ah, this dude
Speaker 3: ain't the dude ain't. It's a prectice all right.
Speaker 1: But in terms of those like bottom half of the
Speaker 1: roster guys, in terms of evaluation, in my opinion, team periods,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the most EVO because they're playing football.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you're a fan, you want to be like a scout,
Speaker 1: get your notebook out right. It's hard now because there's
Speaker 1: no replays. They're all going at the same time. But like,
Speaker 1: let's say you're watching Brandon Coleman. You know everyone's excited
Speaker 1: about him. Watch all his pass rush reps. Not in
Speaker 1: one on ones because he's going to lose some of those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how does he do in team? Does he get the
Speaker 1: combinations communicated? Is he targeting runs correctly? That's where you
Speaker 1: get a better evaluation receiver? Same thing like you were saying, Tanna, right,
Speaker 1: because they're playing ball. Are they running routes to win
Speaker 1: versus coverage? Because in one on ones or seven on
Speaker 1: seven there's no play action fixed, so the linebackers just
Speaker 1: get out of the window. Right, Is he getting open
Speaker 1: in those settings? And I think that to me, like
Speaker 1: so when someone catches the ball and seven on seven,
Speaker 1: I'm like, great, Cool, someone catches the ball in one
Speaker 1: on ones? Cool, one versus man coverage that's important you
Speaker 1: get in team. You're getting touches in team. I think
Speaker 1: that those those weigh those reps more because it's more football.
Speaker 4: Special feel, And that sounds like a guy who coaches. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, you can tell you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. Because I'm just gonna be real with you,
Speaker 4: like I know from just being out there amongst the fans,
Speaker 4: because you know, we had a couple of meetings. They
Speaker 4: talking and he excuse me, my friends they do more
Speaker 4: talking than Hey, you saw that. They miss the whole
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's why I say,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: that's gonna be. That's going to be practices. Where are
Speaker 4: they are really saying? Okay, this is when things are
Speaker 4: getting critical. Now we're getting ready for a game, getting
Speaker 4: worried for a preseason game. Let's see what guys are
Speaker 4: out there, who's showing up, who continues to show up.
Speaker 4: And so now we can take that and say, Okay,
Speaker 4: I saw this guy do this two days before this
Speaker 4: preseason game, so I'm looking forward to seeing him do
Speaker 4: it and this weekend.
Speaker 1: The other thing that drives me absolutely no, this is
Speaker 1: more of a pet peeve, you know, just in general,
Speaker 1: is when someone's on the old Instagram or you know,
Speaker 1: Twitter or whatever and they post a video of routes
Speaker 1: on air or like patent go and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, look at this catch hate it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but my god, showing why I.
Speaker 2: Received it tight ends so much.
Speaker 3: First of all, my high school is over there doing
Speaker 3: it and y'all give it him.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, look at Tenor told.
Speaker 3: Drake's Tom Colin don it's getting mad at me.
Speaker 2: But told dragging the ball that you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, you're talking about it. I hate
Speaker 4: it too, like the only time like I would because
Speaker 4: I will always repost people things that they put out there.
Speaker 4: I hated doing it to my guys because I'm like,
Speaker 4: come on, this is a practice and I remember, I deal,
Speaker 4: but it's.
Speaker 1: Like it's like even like it's like the worst part
Speaker 1: of practice.
Speaker 4: Now I will. So I say this because I did
Speaker 4: this one time when d Hall and me had a
Speaker 4: we had a one on one and somebody saying something.
Speaker 4: I got to post this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I had to repost it, but I gave the hall
Speaker 4: props because I'm like, man, I know this is the hall,
Speaker 4: not time I ten the hall practicing and the hall.
Speaker 1: Playing two different people.
Speaker 2: You know what you got two seconds and a half,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So wet in one on one it's no pass rushing,
Speaker 4: no nothing. But I think that I think what you
Speaker 4: can look at, and that's what fans look at. They
Speaker 4: just looking at the exciting part that that guy making
Speaker 4: that play. If you don't make the play, then you
Speaker 4: know they're not worrying about none of that. They want
Speaker 4: to see the guy make the play.
Speaker 3: You know what, The only person I can say really
Speaker 3: feel pressure practice, no matter what the situation is, it's
Speaker 3: the kicker.
Speaker 2: Because he don't get too much time to shot.
Speaker 3: He got this one period and if he missed it
Speaker 3: while they cried, I would, they will boo you.
Speaker 2: The kicker is the only person that get booed at
Speaker 2: training camp. Think about it.
Speaker 3: Who else am I can get beat?
Speaker 4: You remember that period when the coaches bring everybody up
Speaker 4: and say, all right, you got these last kicks, no
Speaker 4: practice practice tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Don't make this little no whisp princes, no whisp prince
Speaker 2: about seventy three yards? Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The kicker is constantly underpressure. He
Speaker 3: don't practice with us, he gonna do nothing. We call
Speaker 3: him up for one period.
Speaker 1: Dude, that always used to crack me up. When who
Speaker 1: was it was like ky four bath or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was here and watching I play with them? Soccer player.
Speaker 1: He come out there with his golf clubs. They've been
Speaker 1: doing like chips on the side.
Speaker 2: They have nothing to do.
Speaker 3: But when your number is called, kick it. You have
Speaker 3: nothing to do for a quarter. They like, you know,
Speaker 3: just you know, three seconds left, we need your ship.
Speaker 2: Should have knocked us in the head. Shank, worst care going
Speaker 2: around time. He the reason for the season.
Speaker 3: This is it, Like I'm just saying, it's one of
Speaker 3: those jobs. We love you when we love you, we
Speaker 3: hate you when you hate you.
Speaker 2: Is kicking unfair? I don't know. We don't give them
Speaker 2: no props until we need them.
Speaker 1: Is hard, by the way, it's very very hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We had a contest.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. You were terrible. Yeah, check that out.
Speaker 1: That's on YouTube. One of the funniest things every way.
Speaker 2: So it was just like he just runs and kicks the.
Speaker 1: We just I had to say this every time. No
Speaker 1: one wanted that, but Fred. Fred was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can hick your thirty five yard field goal. And I
Speaker 1: was like, no, you can't. He's like, bet, let's do
Speaker 1: it right now. And I was like, all right, right,
Speaker 1: that's what happened, you right, Everyone things I'm picking on
Speaker 1: Fred Fred brought that on himself. Fred was talking to me.
Speaker 2: He bulleted me in basketball with a no sh.
Speaker 1: You said, you getting shower.
Speaker 3: I would jogging around Chicago to win to see it
Speaker 3: the other day shirt jogging right now, They're like, I
Speaker 3: just kept on talking.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This man for sure? All right, that's gonna do it
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