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Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast. Training camp starts

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Speaker 1: today and we are juice stuff. We break down the roster,

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Speaker 1: who's on the bubble and tan It gives you the

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Speaker 1: best way to know if someone's gonna make the team.

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Speaker 1: It all starts right now, Water Bias. Welcome into the

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Speaker 1: Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Pulsing here with Fred Spot

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Speaker 1: and Santana Mossino. Boys. Yes, how has summer been? I

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Speaker 1: feel like I haven't seen you in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: Some have been summery been summering.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I've the DMV has been on fire fire.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about one hundred degrees hundre degrees hunting back

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Speaker 3: to bat actual temperature. Yeah, and That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: But then I went to Chicago and Chicago eighty degree

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Speaker 3: for five days.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 2: I could not believe because I used to go there

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Speaker 2: in the summer.

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Speaker 3: As a kid, that my family is there and it

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Speaker 3: would just bare be hot. But it was just like

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Speaker 3: And then I was going to the people in they

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Speaker 3: were like, Na, this's a cool summer for us.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have the cool o there.

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Speaker 3: My daughter had an AU tournament out there was kind

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Speaker 3: of a beast U.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she is she ja like her dadds.

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Speaker 4: Impossible to know she's a smooth just.

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Speaker 3: Saying she Jai like her daddy. Guess what, logan. I

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Speaker 3: love to see a score, but I love to see.

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Speaker 1: A talk trash like you talk about.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I just see it.

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Speaker 3: I just sit in there. I just cried and stay

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Speaker 3: like I don't even care about the imagine.

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Speaker 1: You know what's wild is I hate it when my

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Speaker 1: son talks trash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you didn't get what He's just gonna be

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Speaker 3: so opposite and you see, I'm gonna be here, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna be cheered for him.

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Speaker 2: You don't your dad ain't nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's true, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm just opposite. I hate trash. I love making my

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Speaker 4: duty to embarrass you mama and your daddy. I just

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Speaker 4: call him at one time.

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Speaker 3: I love to see it from her because they're telling

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Speaker 3: me that she emotionally connected to the game, like she

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Speaker 3: cares like she she made when they lose.

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Speaker 2: She just she want to know. She's passionate about it.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like if your kids passionate about something,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to ask them to do.

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Speaker 1: It talking to other team or is she like talking

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Speaker 1: to her like?

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Speaker 3: First of all, she's giggly, She's very giggly, fun nice,

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Speaker 3: But when the game start, she ain't doing all this

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Speaker 2: She very competitive.

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Speaker 4: So tell me this, and I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 4: this a long time ago. How is she now seeing

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Speaker 4: how much of this? I guess you could say.

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Speaker 2: Love. She begins showing love.

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Speaker 4: But traction that Wnba has been getting from everybody now, I.

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Speaker 2: Think she don't really get.

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Speaker 3: She's such a fan of the game that she don't

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Speaker 3: get caught up in what I'm gonna do. Then, I

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Speaker 3: think she's just so happy to be where she at now,

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Speaker 3: Like I think her feet is on the ground. Like

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Speaker 3: we was talking in Chicago, she had a good game

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Speaker 3: with like nineteen points, and she was like powering.

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Speaker 2: And stuff, like what are you powdering about? Y'all won

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Speaker 3: She's like, Nah, missed too many shots, left a lot

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Speaker 2: She's literally just turned sixteen two days ago.

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Speaker 1: That's also I guess, yes.

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Speaker 3: Because she holds her self account and I think that's

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Speaker 3: as long as you your own biggest critty. You ain't

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because you know, I do all the training,

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Speaker 1: and I do the coaching and stuff, and like you,

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Speaker 1: You were talking about crocodiles and you were in Florida.

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Speaker 4: About I was asking him about because I was watching

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Speaker 4: that just showed up on shore at the beach, and like,

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Speaker 4: that's fresh, that's all we said. So I'm like, man, free,

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Speaker 4: you know everything. I dang, he.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't know a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know it existed, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: He does know a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was just real for me to see

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Speaker 4: that and then just to know that's why I haven't

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Speaker 4: want to see no sharks shocks up on the shore.

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Speaker 3: Now, Well that because the water is warming up. If

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Speaker 3: the water warms up, that they changed they food because

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Speaker 3: they food comes close to the inlands. They gonna come

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Speaker 3: close to the inland. That's just what we you. I

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Speaker 3: guess one day we're gonna finally say it's people glo

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Speaker 3: global warming.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if that's true, because

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Speaker 1: I know some churchs don't like the worm of water.

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Speaker 2: Well, it depends on what shock.

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Speaker 3: And he had the smallert sharks stay in the warmer water,

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Speaker 3: the colder I mean, the biggest sharks stay in cooler water,

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Speaker 3: the bigger preying.

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Speaker 1: Up in Cape cod which you always roast because you.

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Speaker 3: Know what logan is, older person cause and say you

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Speaker 3: know what fellas won't be in this week, going make case.

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Speaker 1: I mean you were, you were, you were talking about

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Speaker 1: Chicago like it was the Bahamas a second ago shown Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they did today city, but they

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Speaker 3: just ran a mop over the city. They cleaned that

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Speaker 3: city up. Man down to Chicago looks great. Man, I'm

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Speaker 3: telling you that they don't even stink.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well that's enough summer recap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we did nothing so god Miami.

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Speaker 1: But uh yeah, we got a bunch of stuff we

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Speaker 1: got to promote. So first off, we got a historical podcast, right,

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Speaker 1: Hale's Tales. Yes, and we just had the Joe GiB

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Speaker 1: Hiring episode or that's coming up. Jason, I'm confused.

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Speaker 2: They just first high.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you say that I know what you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the second hiring.

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Speaker 3: Because oh yeah, they I can't wait till they do

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Speaker 3: that tales so I can narrate it.

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Speaker 1: We did it on the last episode, right, he talked

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Speaker 1: about it if we did our own little mini Hale's tails.

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Speaker 3: About the Hiss tales when they want to do it

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Speaker 3: correct though, I'm gonna be there rating it started on

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Speaker 3: the summer day. I was bored and nothing to do

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Speaker 3: out there, and I just hit Coach Gibbs on the brain.

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Speaker 1: Is that the last one? Or is there another one

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Speaker 1: coming up? Two more?

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Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, how many stories get the tail?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sure he ain't involved in none of them, because is

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Speaker 4: Actually, I had to about facing its.

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Speaker 2: Jay, Sorry for I love dude.

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Speaker 1: I love how bad Fred wants to be in on this,

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Speaker 1: like so badly. Friends like Jason, Please please let.

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Speaker 3: Me make Jason like to see me hate it though.

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Speaker 3: It's something, It does something, his hair perks.

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Speaker 2: Something and everything like you Finally Fred hated though, and

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: So obviously that's a great show that's in our that's

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Speaker 1: on our normal YouTube or not YouTube that's on our

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Speaker 1: normal podcast feeds like Apple and Spotify. And then the

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Speaker 1: big news drum roll, we got our People's Choice Podcast Awards.

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Speaker 1: So apparently I didn't know this, but this is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. And Tanna found out because he texted a

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Speaker 1: bunch of people and they said, it's a big deal, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: people's choice. Yeah, people, the critics, the people. You better

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Speaker 1: believe the critics would vote for that choice.

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Speaker 3: But I hate critics because they don't know what to

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Speaker 3: hear they talking about. Most of dad, the people know

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Speaker 3: what they like. You can tell people what they like

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Speaker 3: and consume the people.

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Speaker 1: That's true. So the way this works is they have

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Speaker 1: like a panel of experts and they vote on ten

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Speaker 1: shows and we are one of those ten shows. And

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Speaker 1: so now no more expert voting. It's only fan voting.

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Speaker 1: So you can go online. There's a website. Jason, do

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Speaker 1: you know the website because I don't know it.

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Speaker 2: Podcast Awards dot com.

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Speaker 1: Oh, easypasy. It's also in the description. So we need

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Speaker 1: you guys to vote.

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Speaker 4: Vote.

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Speaker 1: All you need is an email, Tell your friends, tell

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Speaker 1: your family, everybody to vote, because we could potentially win.

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Speaker 1: If they want to win.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, and we want to win. This is

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Speaker 3: the best podcast you get. What other show did you get?

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Speaker 2: The smooth guy, the brain and just me At the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, this is.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 3: So go out there vote for us, and when you

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Speaker 3: do that, we are going to meet you at training

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Speaker 3: camp and we're going to get a picture with all

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Speaker 3: of us with you, and we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna actually sit down and chat with you too.

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Speaker 1: Have to they have to prove it. Do they have

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Speaker 1: to prove that they?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they should by sending.

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Speaker 5: That email at what that hawk hawk outside at gmail

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Speaker 5: dot com thank you to give us proof that you

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Speaker 5: did it, so then we can provide you with what

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Speaker 5: we need to to pay you and show you thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got some merch left over.

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Speaker 4: We got come most shirts left.

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Speaker 6: I'm not above anything here, so we're this is a

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Speaker 6: big deal. We're up against some ESPN podcasts and NFL

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Speaker 6: Network podcasts and we're just we're a small market, well

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Speaker 6: not a small market, but compared to the whole country.

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Speaker 6: This is we're a small little group here.

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Speaker 1: Because it recording closet.

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Speaker 6: This is Daniel versus Eliath. So our fans really need

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Speaker 6: to turn out for us. But I think what they

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Speaker 3: It I think we got a chance because we got

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Speaker 3: fans all over the United States, all of the world.

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Speaker 2: We got fans in our screare in London, all of

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Speaker 2: them coming.

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Speaker 3: Hey, show us some love. You know we the best.

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Speaker 3: Don't lie to yourself, tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: All you need is an email to vote. So let's see, Yes,

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Speaker 1: a couple of emails.

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Speaker 2: That's a couple of votes.

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Speaker 4: We'll take it. Even if you don't like us, Just

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Speaker 4: vote for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done that before. Maybe you show us proof.

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Speaker 6: And when you email that hawk outside at gmail dot

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Speaker 6: com and maybe we'll put you in a raffle for America.

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Speaker 2: Voted. Yeah, I've voted.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously everyone wants to take a picture of

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Speaker 1: Fred and we'll do that, no problem.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, well we'll show you love.

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Speaker 2: You show us love. We'll show you show love back.

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Speaker 2: That's just where it is.

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Speaker 1: And amongst all this love showing yeah, I love. We've

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Speaker 1: got some really really exciting football related stuff happening.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is, yep, training camp. It started today.

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Speaker 3: Do y'all still get you still get kind of tingling,

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Speaker 2: It is that no reason.

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Speaker 1: I was trading some of my NFL guys last week

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, like two days ago,

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Speaker 2: And then something came on like Training Captain this week,

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Speaker 1: My god, like it's just this like Spider Send.

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Speaker 2: Like it turned me on and I'm like, man, you know.

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Speaker 3: What, like it's game time now, like and it ain't

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Speaker 3: think were on the same clock as them. Now that

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Speaker 3: we work, we were still on the same clock.

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Speaker 4: Definitely on the same clock. And one of the things

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Speaker 4: get that all that vibration, that tingly feeling. But look,

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Speaker 4: I come here and chat a couple of times with

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Speaker 4: that test running, none of that.

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Speaker 1: And the great thing about it is you guys can

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Speaker 1: watch practice and get that same vibe you know some

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Speaker 3: Are they are electric? Yeah, they are electric, and you

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Speaker 3: can see it. Everybody's smile. Everybody's on the up and up.

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Speaker 3: The energy is different. Like even with the players, man, like,

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Speaker 3: Some of that tells me something is brewing and you

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Speaker 4: What you gotta think about it? It's new, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, you know one of the things

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Speaker 4: that you've been around organizations and teams where when you

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Speaker 4: when you kind of basically change everything Queen slate protocol.

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Speaker 4: You got all these new bodies, you got these new staff,

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Speaker 4: damn new building. Everything is kind of like new. So

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Speaker 4: I'm getting that new feeling vibe. You know that new car.

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Speaker 3: Fit field ain't nothing like that new Cosmel Cocker ugly,

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Speaker 1: And coach Dan Quinn was on the Get Lid podcast,

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Speaker 1: I guess with me and g and you coined the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything about Washington Commander's start with the word.

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Speaker 1: Building, which just said, right, I mean we are building.

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Speaker 3: Like when y'all come watch training camp, y'all gonna notice

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Speaker 3: You gonna see the guys at them Pena's in the

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Speaker 3: trying to get in up to date because we builded.

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Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, we're moving forward.

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Speaker 3: And to do that sometime you got to tear the

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Speaker 1: And that's what we were saying too, right, like just

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Speaker 1: like it's everything is new. Everything's exciting, and I think

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Speaker 1: you know, like you know, one of the questions on

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Speaker 1: here is what's the difference between this season last season

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Speaker 1: and like literally everything is new. Like obviously the owner

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been a part of

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Speaker 1: that was that how I was like when Mike was here?

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Speaker 4: Sort of yeah, I think we kept more guys than

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Speaker 4: had that same feeling, you know, and especially having a

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Speaker 4: that was like something that was new for me and

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Speaker 3: And feeling give you your f like I gotta be

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Speaker 3: a concrete quarterback, you know what I'm saying, no doubt, Fred,

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Speaker 3: have you read anything like that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I play here of the life like I've went through, so.

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Speaker 1: That's a question. It was almost have you ever been

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Speaker 3: Rod I did in Minnesota, Ziggie Wilf had just bought

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Speaker 2: And what was that?

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Speaker 4: Like he was.

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Speaker 3: Feeling his way out and like, I think what we

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Speaker 3: other teams. Like when it came to Ziggie Wilf, they

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Speaker 3: were brand new to sports. They had made they millions

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Speaker 3: So he was called I watched him called around to

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Speaker 3: told him is you're gonna have to get out the metro.

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Speaker 3: Don it stinks we had to wear stadium in football.

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Speaker 3: Now they got one of the best stadium. They were like,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to rebuild the practice facility, one of

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Speaker 3: the best practice Like so Ziggie Wiff and the will

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Speaker 3: family took their time to line everything up while still

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Speaker 3: I think that's the big challenge with ownership is I

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Speaker 1: That's kind of definitely what it feels like here, right.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned what you're building, Yeah, kind of rants you

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Speaker 1: just went on. Is that okay, called a ramp ye

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Speaker 3: Like people got to understand, like a calendar in football

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Speaker 3: that twelve months.

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Speaker 2: Go by quick.

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Speaker 3: We just blinked and we were just finishing up the

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Speaker 2: As players.

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Speaker 3: I think now that we don't got older and we

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Speaker 3: it's not really much to it. That's why I give

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Speaker 1: So obviously the newness is something to be pretty excited about. Patanna,

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Speaker 1: what are you most excited to see in this training camp?

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Speaker 4: You know what what I'm and it might be odd

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Speaker 4: but I'm looking forward to see our defense. I think

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Speaker 4: want to see that to nacity that I saw Joe

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Speaker 4: So I think our defense being where they at right now,

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Speaker 4: All these plays be on time with the ball, you

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Speaker 4: Being that we have a defense that's going to play

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Speaker 1: And we got to see that today and you guys

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Speaker 1: that out. It's awesome. We got great access, great coverage.

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Speaker 1: So if you can't make it out to practice, make

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Speaker 2: Can we all agree that a sandwich? Right?

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Speaker 1: Is there something to agree to list? Okay, sorry, you're

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Speaker 3: Can we agree that the most important part of a

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Speaker 2: You know, what's good that ain't get stuck right now? Now?

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Speaker 2: The question is the most important part of a sandwich

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Speaker 2: is what's in the middle, right?

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Speaker 3: Because I can eat an open face sandwich with no bread,

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Speaker 3: but it's still gonna have the middle right. That's how

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Speaker 2: Your defensive line that show.

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Speaker 3: That's that's show intimidators like these, the guys that make

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day. No matter what we

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Speaker 2: They could have been like last year, they're gonna meet

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Speaker 2: that peak this year.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, you just put us out on my face.

444
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Speaker 4: Pretty good man. How he breaks that, I gotta give

445
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Speaker 4: you your credit, right.

446
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 1: And so for all your analytics stords out there are like, well,

447
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,600
Speaker 1: linebackers are devalued. They're not important when you look at

448
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 1: the analytics. Now, let's look at the math. If you

449
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,639
Speaker 1: have a top ten linebacker at the position.

450
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Speaker 2: Top ten defense, it.

451
00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,959
Speaker 1: Elevates the defense. It elevates more than any other position

452
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Speaker 1: on the defense. So I know, friends has a lot

453
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Speaker 1: of crazy stuff, but good linebackers is and valuing them

454
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Speaker 1: and valuing them appropriately. And it's just about whether we

455
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Speaker 1: think Bobby Wagner and Frankie Louvu are those top ten

456
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Speaker 1: type guys. But I think they definitely could be.

457
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Speaker 3: Great lineback and cores can cover up a bad pass

458
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Speaker 3: rush and a bad coverage.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, and especially you know Frankie Louvu is his

460
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Speaker 1: ability rush the pastor can wait to watch that.

461
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Speaker 3: Jamie Davis, Like, this is what I want everybody to

462
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,360
Speaker 3: understand on Christmas. When we get those new toys, we

463
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,200
Speaker 3: love them new toys, but don't forget about the old toys. Like,

464
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 3: don't forget about the old toys. You remember that that

465
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Speaker 3: he you know what, he is just as fun as

466
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Speaker 3: they Joe you got, So don't forget about Jamie Davis.

467
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Speaker 2: They were time. You say Frankie Louvo, don't forget when

468
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 2: you say Bobby Wagon, don't you.

469
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Speaker 3: Forget about drum pain. People got to understand. For all

470
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Speaker 3: the new pieces we got, the old ones, we kept

471
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Speaker 3: the studs. We kept the studs and guess what, don't

472
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Speaker 3: happen to them because everybody got better around them.

473
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Speaker 2: They will get better. So don't forget about Jamie Davis

474
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Speaker 2: and the rest of those old heads.

475
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Speaker 1: And so for me, high level again, linebackers defense in

476
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Speaker 1: general love both of those. I'm just excited to see

477
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Speaker 1: kind of the staff come together, you know what I'm saying.

478
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Speaker 1: And how they kind of guide practice and and you know,

479
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: guide the joint practices and guide the preseason. And because

480
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Speaker 1: they as much as the team's gotta jail, they gotta

481
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 1: jail too. And if they gel kind of in the

482
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 1: same way like good coaching can elevate bad players or

483
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Speaker 1: I think that's something that I think the staff is

484
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Speaker 1: capable of doing. But it's about how they come together.

485
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Speaker 3: And uh, because we know how it is, it gets

486
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 3: shippy over under.

487
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Speaker 2: No, this ain't any fight. This is gonna be a

488
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: verbal spar you know, the offensive coordinator defensive coordinating over another.

489
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Speaker 3: How many days before Cliff keyesby and Wit go verbal

490
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Speaker 3: hold on.

491
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Speaker 4: For some reason, I don't see that in Wit though

492
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Speaker 4: he seemed like one of those guys he can even

493
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Speaker 4: though he might get fired up, he know how to

494
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Speaker 4: bring it.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can see him taking the lift from

496
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Speaker 3: Cliff and just looking at it.

497
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Speaker 4: Though he looks like one of those guys that he

498
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Speaker 4: might harp on his guys. Yeah, but he was worrying

499
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Speaker 4: about about no coach, you know what I'm saying.

500
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Speaker 1: That's a good question, though.

501
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Speaker 2: Question because because everybody get the ball.

502
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Speaker 4: So since you say over and under, I'm gonna say

503
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Speaker 4: three days day, I'm gonna say I take the but

504
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 4: I say you take the over. I mean I said, yeah, yeah,

505
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 4: I take the over. I take the over.

506
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Speaker 2: But I don't think.

507
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Speaker 4: I don't I don't think I'm gonna see that all.

508
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Speaker 2: I think. I think we go see it because I

509
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: can see Kingsby.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, we saw you come.

511
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Speaker 2: The head coach.

512
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Speaker 4: Now they get into a fight. Yeah, they get into

513
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Speaker 4: a fight, which I think that might happen, you know,

514
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 4: because we talked about this, but you have like the

515
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 4: defense defense off and not the coaches. Now, I was like, god,

516
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Speaker 4: if you know, because we talked about you know, hearing

517
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Speaker 4: the guys say, man, you know I'm competing more now.

518
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 4: You know, it's competitive, but a lot different than what

519
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 4: it was before in the past. And so with that

520
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Speaker 4: being said, most of the teams that I've been on

521
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Speaker 4: that had had great talent, we got into a little

522
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Speaker 4: spar matches here and there, you know what I mean.

523
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Speaker 4: So if now I would see a coach saying, hey, man,

524
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Speaker 4: get your guys. Yeah, because we don't have to talk

525
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Speaker 4: about hurting nobody.

526
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, say, the only time we

527
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Speaker 1: saw it get chippy during ot mini camp was when

528
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Speaker 1: the players I think it was Terry or somebody started

529
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Speaker 1: talking to the defensive sideline. That was the only time

530
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Speaker 1: we got a little chippy.

531
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Speaker 2: But but but we know that's coming. We know this

532
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Speaker 2: coming doing training camp, and I'm telling you it's gonna

533
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Speaker 2: be the defense that sparks it all.

534
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Speaker 1: Like you're gonna say, oh, you're saying four days?

535
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Speaker 3: Is that I'm saying, so what each other said three

536
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Speaker 3: days and less before the first the first scuffle.

537
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Speaker 1: If you're like, I think six is no.

538
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Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna say three days because.

539
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Speaker 3: Since you still like each other after, we're gonna have

540
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 3: them playing so fast with their hair on fire. And

541
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Speaker 3: you know it's gonna be one vetter to be like,

542
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: hey man, you need you need to slow down, need

543
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Speaker 3: to come down.

544
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Speaker 2: Now.

545
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Speaker 3: This is how we played all this, this this new

546
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 3: world that we're gonna do. Something's gonna happen. Something that's

547
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: gonna happen.

548
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 4: Me from the players more more so than the coaches.

549
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: But I think you know, you got to think about

550
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Speaker 4: the d Q is one of those guys too that

551
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: he already fled up, start up.

552
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Speaker 1: But like I will say, playing sure, he's to.

553
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Speaker 4: Tell them guys like, look, we don't need you guys

554
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 4: out of control because you gotta you know, tame, tame

555
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 4: your guys. So we so they don't see us going

556
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Speaker 4: at each other. You see what I'm saying.

557
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Speaker 1: What is a you know, like he s he's an emotional,

558
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: passionate guy right likes football. But you know, if you

559
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: got in a fight down Atlanta, watch out. Yeah, no fighting.

560
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: He no, he wasn't with that. No, no, no, no, no no.

561
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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. Fights good from morale. Man, break's

562
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: having a camp. Let's get it going a little bit right.

563
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 2: More swopping lip paint.

564
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Speaker 4: It showed us in college. And I know it's just different, different,

565
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 4: you know, but it showed us in college who we were.

566
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Speaker 4: As soon as the one broke out in the field,

567
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 4: coaches broke that thing up, sent us up to our rooms.

568
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Speaker 4: And I remember that same received course I had that

569
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Speaker 4: thtory abody I was telling you about. He came to me.

570
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Speaker 4: He said, I found my dogs.

571
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Speaker 2: Dogs. You gotta let dogs off the least, she said,

572
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Speaker 2: I found my dog.

573
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Speaker 4: He was sitting here the whole time he was he

574
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Speaker 4: was barking, But I found I saw him out dad,

575
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Speaker 4: and here in the battle and he said, and now

576
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Speaker 4: I know who want to go to walk And that's

577
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Speaker 4: it's set the table. You know what I'm saying.

578
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Speaker 2: I remember when Chad Morten first walked up on the

579
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Speaker 2: practice field.

580
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Speaker 3: I'm marking an I'm marking there.

581
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Speaker 2: I see a dog with a tail took between I

582
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Speaker 2: gotta get it. Listen, man, that's the fun part of football.

583
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: Like what other sport besides like boxing, do you get

584
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: to take off your aggression.

585
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: On your team?

586
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 4: Man?

587
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: It is a special sport.

588
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: It's a specials a special sport. Jesus.

589
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Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about coaches there, coaches, high

590
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: level stuff. Now let's talk about the players on this

591
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: roster specifically. So I think, you know, like one of

592
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: the things about training camp and like off seasons, like

593
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: who's gonna make the team? Who's gonna make the team.

594
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to tell today, but I

595
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: do think, but I do think there are guys that

596
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: you know that are gonna make the team.

597
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

598
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: So, like I went through and on my little spreadsheet

599
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Speaker 1: here sopress idiots.

600
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Speaker 3: Before we even start this, I just want to tell

601
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: everybody because I'm tired of my eighties and my daughters

602
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm tired of my friend.

603
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: Don't call me up by Sam Hartman. All right. I

604
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: don't know if he's single. I don't know, but you

605
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: gotta stop asking me. All right now. I know my

606
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: teammates when I was on the team. Oh, I know

607
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: how my tea was throwing. Have y'all seen Fred Hartman? Yeah,

608
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: I am. Listen, I'm sick of time. The grocery store

609
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: yesterday in.

610
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: The fruit set, someone saw you were Sam Harvey.

611
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they didn't like, Fred, how you doing

612
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: what you think we're gonna do this year? Like, oh, yeah,

613
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna be good. I cannot You're in the fruit

614
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: fruit sext. You know, I was buying fresh fruit. Then

615
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: she's like, by the way, what about that, Sam Hartman.

616
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, what about it?

617
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: Then I can see this lady over the another lady

618
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: that when't even with her like Sam Hartman.

619
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, is it like this,

620
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: Yes it is, Yes, it is. I seen people have

621
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: to come by looking at him run down the field

622
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: in his hair.

623
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: And slow motion bounce up and down. It's it's something

624
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: to something.

625
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: Something something to it.

626
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Hey, I don't know. Hey, Hey,

627
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: we have.

628
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 7: These guys that make the team like this all the time.

629
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 7: That's because they're attractive. Listen, we hey, Sam Harmon or

630
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 7: regular face? Is this Sam Hartman a regular quarterback name?

631
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: Or a different that I ain't met, but one Sam Hartmon.

632
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: That's a different name. All right, that's a different name.

633
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: You said always the names will tell you who.

634
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: So a heart throb. Name's Sam Hartman. Yeah, oh, heart

635
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: throw everywhere. I know.

636
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: I should be his I should be his agent. I

637
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: can give him all kind of contracts. Imagine giving your

638
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: girl a Sam Hartman card for Valientie Day.

639
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 6: Jason, So, speaking of Sam, My, my wife's best friend

640
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 6: went to Notre Dame.

641
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: So he's a big Notre Dame. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

642
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 6: So she my wife goes, hey, can my friend and

643
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 6: I come and meet Sam Harmon?

644
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: Your friend? Your friends certainly can't. What you're saying, you

645
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: don't tell.

646
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: I told Kelly. I told Kelly, my wife, that same story.

647
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: She's like, she's like, how attractive this guy be? She

648
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: pulls out her phone watching her. She goes, oh my, oh,

649
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: y'all on.

650
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: The cushion the text for sale Hartman. Right now, I

651
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: really do love this.

652
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: Now I know how people feel when I got here

653
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: as a rookie, I really do understand that.

654
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: Thank you.

655
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 2: Question three. I love it, Sam Hartman.

656
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman, all right, so lord ha mer, we took

657
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: a little little detour and there.

658
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: Gonna get hisself in there involved in that. I'm kind

659
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 4: of you know what I'm saying.

660
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: I told you, like, I haven't been under this much

661
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: tech with questions in.

662
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: A long time. I'm like, do y'all think he's gonna

663
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Speaker 2: start or something.

664
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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, want to, like, you know, they just

665
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 4: hope he make the ruster where he can wear your.

666
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's just like what okay?

667
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 4: All right?

668
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: So I would the way the way the segment started

669
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: was to talk about people that were gonna for sure

670
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: make the team. Sam Hartman is not one of those people.

671
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: If we start on offense the way I look at it,

672
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: I say, Terry McLaurin and Johan Dotson, Luke McCaffrey receivers, right,

673
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna make the team. I say guarantee, guaranteed, and

674
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: then I said probably o Z right, I'm.

675
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: Pretty sure I want a guarantee number three.

676
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: Al right, So then we go zach Ertz, Bensonatt John Bates.

677
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, we go with that bass blocker, so not just

678
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: drafted ty Alright.

679
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: Then we go offensive line, Cornelius Lucas, Brandon Coleman, Nick Algharetti, Yep,

680
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Pattish Ye, Sam Cosmy, Andrew Wiley, Yeah, Brian Robinson Jr.

681
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, and then Jayden Daniels Yes. And I think

682
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: those guys, so that's fifteen guys. I think those guys

683
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: for sure make the team right on offense. Does that

684
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: make sense? So then if we go to receiver and

685
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: you sayyone's like, oh, what's the position? Battle? What's going on?

686
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: Battle? Terry number one?

687
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Right, Terry, And.

688
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: We still don't know who number three is, just Tone,

689
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: even though he's gonna make team as a draftee, we

690
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: don't know is he the two number three?

691
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: Right?

692
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: But then I look and I say, of the receivers,

693
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: I think Oz is probably gonna make it all right,

694
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: because three Because the reason I think that is because

695
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: I think he can return kicks and soakn Luke McCaffrey.

696
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: And then you say, then for all you fans watching

697
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: at home keeping track of receivers, now, now you've got

698
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: about twelve guys who are fighting for two spots.

699
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: So and you got one of those bitteran returner is

700
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: jameson Crowded. It showed that I got some left in

701
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: the tank.

702
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: But if but if those other two guys can return.

703
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: Then all right they separate.

704
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: So just so you know, we got Dax Milton, Janmy Brown,

705
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Mitchell Tinsley, Tamir Bird, Devon Davis, Rice and Tremaine Rosemy

706
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Jack Saint, Kasmi Allen, So eight guys.

707
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: Allen is a return.

708
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if those other two guys can return,

709
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: you just cross those guys off the list.

710
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: These other guys.

711
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a wide open race now.

712
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: But I think that's what I'm saying when people say, oh,

713
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: it's a position battle, it's like those those first three guys.

714
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, in yeah, question would be too is and and

715
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: this is just because you can do this with both groups.

716
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: You can do this with the running backs too. If

717
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: one of those receivers can return kicks and punts right now,

718
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: it makes his chances greater.

719
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: Alley, Yeah, now, but which one and receivers play gunner?

720
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: The next question?

721
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then you go like Diami and then Brice

722
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: and Tremaine play gunner and then roseby Jack saying before

723
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: the hamstring played gunner. So it gets real tight, real quick.

724
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: And that's why everyone says. I was listening to a

725
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: show today and they were like, oh, why does special

726
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: teams matter? Like why, like, why is it so hard

727
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: to play special teams? And let me just say, you

728
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: play teams. I played teams, everybody, Yeah, it is hard

729
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: to play specialis.

730
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: For one play, but one play in between all those out.

731
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Of play and like you got to be a little

732
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: bit messed up in the head to play teams. And

733
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: so when we go through this listener, we're like, oh,

734
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: this guy can play teams, but this guy might not

735
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: be able to. It's because you're looking for that physicality,

736
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: that toughness, that grit, that want to And that's why

737
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: I think even though we got four guys, we got Terry, Johan, Luke,

738
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: and Oz making the team. And we'll see those four

739
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: those those remaining two spots, three spots. The guy's got

740
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of stuff.

741
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to play a lot.

742
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Of right, Like they got to be good on teams.

743
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: So that's where like again that battle comes into So

744
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: when you're when you're a fan watching the receivers, it's like,

745
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: ooh uh, you know, Mitchell Tinsley caught that pass touchdown,

746
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: But I'm watching Brise and Tremaine make a tackle as

747
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: a gunner. And which is gonna be more valuable in

748
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: the end.

749
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: Probably the latter, Yeah, because he ain't gonna have a

750
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: chance to catch out.

751
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: Okay, And when people got to understand the mindset of

752
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: special teams, I want you all to do this first.

753
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: Everybody gets drafted from college with the style on their team.

754
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: I don't care how small the school was, I don't

755
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: care how big this team the school would they would

756
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: not play. They ain't play swash teams since high school.

757
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: People get to the league haven't played special team.

758
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: From high school. And now this is how you're gonna

759
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: make a team.

760
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: Like if the starter's gonna have to play smash team,

761
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to play speach team. That's what makes

762
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: special teams so hard and other thing about it. It's

763
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: gonna be this select group of guys who only make

764
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: their money for special teams, and they will bend you

765
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: over backwards.

766
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: Yea all the time. Though, Man, you can always tell

767
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: the good programs because it didn't matter how much of

768
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: a star you was offensively or defensively. Like I literally

769
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: in the Florida State game, two touchdowns underscored and the

770
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: hundred something that yards, I was a flyer. I was

771
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: running down there making tackles, you know what I mean.

772
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: So it's like when you have those big games, coaches

773
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: called upon certain guys like, look, you're gonna need to

774
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: play from you. You my gun or you my fly,

775
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You're one of those guys

776
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: that because we need every guy on the field that's

777
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: going to make a difference in each phase. So that's

778
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: why it's an easier transition for some of those guys

779
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: come from big schools because we're gonna have to play

780
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: to play bunch of teams, you know what I mean.

781
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: So so you got to take a chance of those guys.

782
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: So the ones who don't fit that quotal, then yeah,

783
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: they won't be the team. Teams is special. You know,

784
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: we got a lot of We got a lot of

785
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: guys I think on this roster that can do so specially.

786
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: I've been saying every play, every series starts and in

787
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: with special teams, not out.

788
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: It's not defense start with special teams with special team.

789
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: So another group that I think is really interesting is

790
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: the offensive line because they usually keep nine. But there's

791
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes here. And again like there's there's

792
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: names like you know, like Chris Paul or whoever, Brandon Daniels,

793
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: guys that were drafted. But like this new.

794
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: Staff clean slate protocol, they got no love for you.

795
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: I hate to break like.

796
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: You just got to be done.

797
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: This guy right, yeah, yeah, this got throat.

798
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying though, it's like it's

799
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: like it was like he was a draft pickers or

800
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and it's like they don't care. They

801
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: want the best nine guys to play. So we just

802
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: went through Cornelia Sukus, Brandon Coleman, Nick Algareaty Tyler, Biadis

803
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: sham Cosy, Andrew Wiley. After that, throw it up in there,

804
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: and I.

805
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: Think that's for everybody, and I think his office labor.

806
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: You got to feel good about it because you don't

807
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: feel like no favorites gonna get played.

808
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: That's a great point.

809
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: That's a great point.

810
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: Oh, you can ask for like I got a clean slate,

811
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: And I want to tell people this because I hear

812
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: I love my sports talk radio and I list to

813
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: it out of time, but I hate one track minded

814
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: people that think just because something happened last year, this

815
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: is who you are. No, this office allowed has a

816
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 3: chance to be ten times better than they was last year.

817
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: It was it was so many bearables in there, all

818
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 3: them sex went sam, all them sex when the offense

819
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: aligned me. You don't know what the office scheme is.

820
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: You don't know what we move in the pocket more,

821
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: you don't know what it is. Stop saying what the

822
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: weakness of the team is before the season even start.

823
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: That makes me sick to my stomach because what.

824
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: Used to be your script last year could easily be

825
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: your weakness this year.

826
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like for this one, I think the

827
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: one thing we're going to talk about is left tackle

828
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: here because you got Trent Scott, Cornelis Ugus, Brandon Coleman

829
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: all kind of vying for the same thing. I think,

830
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: like to your point, like, we don't really know what

831
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: the offense is going to look like, so I think like,

832
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: for example, if you want to throw the ball out,

833
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: you probably want Cornellia used to play right, and you're

834
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: going to run the ball more, you probably want Trent

835
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: Scott to play. Yeah, right, and if Brandon Coleman develops

836
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: like and that's a big piece right in terms of

837
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: developmental guys. But that's one running back to me, seems

838
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. The top two guys.

839
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then what happens with I'm glad you Chris

840
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: Rodriguez and Wiley and the rest of you do because

841
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: you said something that I think this the people on

842
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: this team have to really say, you know what, I'm

843
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: so happy we got new coaches, but I understand ain't

844
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: no love here, meaning they're only gonna take the people

845
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: who allow them to keep their job as a starting

846
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: coach in his lead.

847
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: If you keep me hired, I'm good.

848
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: And so that's one that I think is really interesting

849
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: because I love Chris Rodriguez. I did a great job.

850
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: I share just something today was put together man.

851
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: Big old hoss, right. But I think they also like

852
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Michael Wiley and Austin Jones those so I think it's

853
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: a it's a it's and then obviously Jermen McNichols to

854
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: it running back, Yeah, any one of those guys depending

855
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: on what they wanted the position.

856
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: Depending on what they already got.

857
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: Because I'm one of those people is I can't repetitively

858
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: get the same skill set, Like you got to think

859
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: about it. B Rob, to me, he'll a bit of slasher.

860
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: He has a little bit of brawler. He's a little

861
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: bit of He can catch the ball.

862
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: That I stay at Minnie Camp the way he caught

863
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: the football in the seam. Yeah, it looked like a

864
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: tight end. Man. He did a great job.

865
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

866
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: So when I look at b Rob, I don't look

867
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: at him as just an a gap b gap run.

868
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: I look at a guy that can do everything.

869
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: Now you got Ikla maybe on the back end, but

870
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: still a great slasher, still a great pass box, and

871
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: still can catch out the back field. So now you say, okay,

872
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: do we want to change a pace back is the

873
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: third back? Do we want to power back since we

874
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: already got that? Yeah, do we want something that wild?

875
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: He brings to the That's the thing about it. Like

876
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: what in then, especially with an outfensive mind like Kingsby,

877
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: Like he's used to his running backs being part of

878
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: the receiving girl.

879
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: So if you not a back that catches a lot,

880
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: does that work against you?

881
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, that's why I couldn't set

882
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: it better myself. That's exactly right. And what's interesting too

883
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: is that third back is probably competing with the fourth

884
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: tight end, So he's competing with Armandah Rodgers, Yeah, Cold Turner, Polston, Yankov.

885
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: And if you're going to keep four, I think all

886
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: those guys have a legitimate shot of making the team.

887
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because it just depends on

888
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: what we want to be, right, Colston Yanko played a

889
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: little bit of running back, can play a little full back,

890
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: good teams player, perfect guy, got Amani Rodgers kind of

891
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: the physical freak. But that's the tough part about rosters

892
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: and why camp is so important. I know we saw

893
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: the first day today, but like it's all these pieces

894
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: competing with each other.

895
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: And you break up with a guy like Yanko.

896
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: What about scenarios where you feel like a guy he

897
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 3: there but he ain't really really to play.

898
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: But I know if I cut him, I see the

899
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: thing we don't somebody's going to sign.

900
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, Fred, because I

901
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: think he was so badly miscast at UCLA. He was

902
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: playing running back, yeah, straight running like not full back.

903
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: Tail back, yeah, tailback and I'm sure a lot of

904
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: people were like, he's not a tailback whatever. So I

905
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: think the fact that he is kind of going to

906
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: be under the radar for a lot of teams. Yeah,

907
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: I hope you can get in a practice squad, but

908
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: if you think you're gonna lose him and he has

909
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: a good camp.

910
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: But just not him. But what about the the say five.

911
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Players just right there on the bubble where a guy

912
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: in front of you might be out playing you, but

913
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: I'd rather.

914
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: And lose him.

915
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: Like, so it's as I'm glady said the word bubble, Like,

916
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: what does that mean to you?

917
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: Tannel?

918
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: When you hear the word bubble, what does that mean?

919
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't even know. I want to think of

920
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 4: one bubble. You either gonna be here, you ain't bus

921
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: you're the guy on the put you on the cuss

922
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: you that guy? You know what I mean? Because you

923
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: know when I think a bubble, I think about that guy.

924
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, man, you may have been here and

925
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: you been that guy once once upointed time, but now

926
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: you're in the bubble. Now it's not a for sure

927
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 4: thing for you.

928
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

929
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: Or you may be a guy that we just brought

930
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: in and you on the bubble to making the team.

931
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? So you have you have

932
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: different ways to look at it, but both of them.

933
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: When's the arrow upon it? Yeah? But to me, when.

934
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: When I say bubble, they mean you at that, you

935
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: at the you're on the rim, and you can fall

936
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: in with the.

937
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: Group, you can fall out.

938
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: You can fall out with the group.

939
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 3: Uh, you might be one injured you away from locking

940
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: on this team. You want healthyer guy away from not

941
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: even being on the team. Like, so when you say bubble,

942
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: I say circumstances. You say bubble, I say your circumstances

943
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: might work in your favor.

944
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: I just seen guys be a bubble guy for ten years.

945
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: But I also see a guy be on the bubble

946
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: for three days and never play again, never being leaked.

947
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: So when it say bubble, you on the cuss and

948
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: the problem me is dead. Where are you special on

949
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: any special teams?

950
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: Like we keep coming back to the special team.

951
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: If you on a bubble, what's gonna make you better

952
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: than that next man?

953
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Positionally? What do you do on special team?

954
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? And I think you know I was a

955
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: bubble guy for majority of my career, probably ten years,

956
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, nine, ten years, and it's it's stressful and tough,

957
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: but it comes down to can we trust you to

958
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: do it? Do you fill a role like can you

959
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: play teams if we need you to? Indpension one hundred percent?

960
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 3: Souse out there with my kids in Chicago, blowing bubble,

961
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: saying logan, saying your name.

962
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: Look at them logans in there.

963
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 7: Hell yeah.

964
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: So we just did the offense. We're gonna run through

965
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: the defense real quick. So I got this is just me.

966
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: You can tell me if I'm wrong. I got Durrance Armstrong,

967
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler, Doron Payne, Jonathan Allen, Deshn Newton. Is interesting

968
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: because if he starts on the pup, which we'll find

969
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: out we found out.

970
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 2: I'll probably say he did, but he got a roster.

971
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: He's because it's a college injury. He'd start on the

972
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: non football injury list. What is that? And and I

973
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: have he did a full week of six weeks, but

974
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: he's on that, So that saves your roster.

975
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 4: Used to be like six six to eight weeks.

976
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: I think it's six weeks, legit. That saves your roster.

977
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind when I'm doing this.

978
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 4: Count.

979
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Then you got Cleveland Fairer, Frankie Louvi, Bobby Wagner, Jordan

980
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: McGee yep, Mike Sanders, Still Kawan Martin, Benjamin Saint Juice. See,

981
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in a second, Jeremy Chin, Dominie Campton.

982
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: And then we got Emmanuel Forbes and Davis and did

983
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: you say dfo he's on here? DeForest and Percy with

984
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: the other guys I had, I have question marks next

985
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: to them.

986
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: Yours is getting very intriguing because a couple of questions

987
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: mark you got.

988
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: I think, let's talk about it.

989
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: And we're not saying these people are gonna make a

990
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: team that, No, this is just to give you an idea.

991
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: That's seventeen guys. Yeah, so I feel like those guys

992
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: are gonna probably make the team right now. It's about

993
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: like if you look at the D line, yep, right,

994
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: let's go start there, right, you got John Ridgeway versus

995
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Big Phil versus versus really Noel Pollard, the rookie from

996
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and Benny Putoye. Right, and so obviously if

997
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Gerson's healthy, you only keep one of those guys.

998
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: Which way?

999
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: But right, I think so I'm just saying rich Way

1000
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: has shown me I'll be there when you need me

1001
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: and tell me I don't care if.

1002
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: It's the ninety seven player in the game and it's

1003
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: my first place.

1004
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: I am Red d And obviously dan Quinn and his

1005
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: staff drafted him to Dallas. Yes, they know him really well.

1006
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: The other one I just want to kind of highlight

1007
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: here is Noel Pop Pollard because he has a ton

1008
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: of he remember he had the highest pass rush running percentage.

1009
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: I think it was the third in the nation. I

1010
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: watched the Key and talk about someone with juice.

1011
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude's got juice.

1012
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: And so guys with juice, they didn't make the team.

1013
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: I just they just find you know, like your your

1014
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: cleming story. You were telling us before the show shot juice,

1015
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: he got juice might make the team.

1016
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 4: So just but could he be one of those guys

1017
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: that make the practice squad and just be you know

1018
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: what I mean?

1019
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Maybe and then like up and down?

1020
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1021
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 3: But he wasn't a sneaky guy that other people wanted

1022
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: to side. So how we got Ridgeway, how we stole

1023
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: him from the Cowboy.

1024
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: We can put him on the press squad. No, you can't, because.

1025
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: We've been We've Benna bring him up, Like, I think

1026
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys.

1027
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: If he get going, he won't make it tap right.

1028
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is like all those dudes after

1029
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: those first three guys are in a competition for one spot.

1030
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: And obviously if Treson's I think he is on that list,

1031
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: that college injury list, you keep one more. But there

1032
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: is a world where Fiderian Mathis does make this team.

1033
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: Most definitely, or or John Ridgeway, I say, I ridge

1034
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: away on somebody else put it like this. I talked

1035
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 3: about it with coach Queenn doing the get Lab podcast

1036
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: makes you glat with me and Michael Jenkins, great promo. Hey,

1037
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: we talked about good teams have to cut good plays, absolutely,

1038
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: and he like, you can't be afraid that.

1039
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1040
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: And so I think, just to give you the landscape

1041
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: of that deep Ed Rusher, Dorn Armstrong, Dante Fowler, Cleveland Ferrell,

1042
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, honestly, you probably keep five there.

1043
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: So I think kJ Hendrey Andre Jones are in because

1044
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: I think that I think starts on the pup list,

1045
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: and then John Baptist's seven round pick probably gets the

1046
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: practice to get him on the prec squad unless he

1047
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: balls out, then he makes it.

1048
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: I think you want to book him up. That was

1049
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: his thing in college. He was long loans grown, but

1050
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: didn't have enough weight.

1051
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now, okay, so that's it. I think that's

1052
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: we feel good about that. But all of those guys

1053
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: are competing for a spot. Yeah, they are like who's

1054
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: got the most jews, who fits the role linebacker? Same thing,

1055
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Frankie Lou, Bobby Wagner, Jordan McGee, and I'd probably put

1056
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Pittman above Jamon Davis Lord to think about this though,

1057
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Think about this. He he's a guy, he needs a

1058
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: lot of reps to play linebacker, and you're like, oh, man,

1059
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: put him next to Bobby Wagner. I'd be great. He's

1060
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot. He played edge rusher this whole offseason.

1061
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: This what I want him to be. I've been waiting

1062
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: for him to beat us, but it's rush for the

1063
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: long Like.

1064
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Think about Fred. Let me just say this to you.

1065
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: Let me just say this before you get on your

1066
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: from my high. When was the last time you saw

1067
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: somebody switch positions. He's not switching in the off season.

1068
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: He is. He's playing defensive end. And make the team.

1069
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: I have seen it a million times.

1070
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: But what I'm talking then, what I'm talking about, you

1071
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: can't even tell us what side initiale, what defense are

1072
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: we running?

1073
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1074
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: It's basic?

1075
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: Multiple front, multiple fronts, run multiple fronts.

1076
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: What they saw in their film is if I exked

1077
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: Jamie Davis to check wires, I mean running backs out

1078
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: the backfield, he can. If I ask him to stand

1079
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: up and run sideline the sideline, he can. I've watched

1080
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: it for four years, three years. What I want to

1081
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: see him do is use this four four speed to

1082
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: get and rush to pass them. I know he can

1083
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: do the other things. He's proven to me he can

1084
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: do them. Not at a Pro Bowl level, but he

1085
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: can do them at a PROS level. I think what

1086
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: they're saying is, even with Frankie louver as much as

1087
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: I've seen him move him around, I think they're gonna

1088
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: have these guys imagine this picture. This we think is

1089
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: a DEFENSI end on his team, the Cleveland Farrells.

1090
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: Outside of these guys will be a Frankie Louvu and

1091
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: the Jamie Davis. I know what they want to do.

1092
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: They want to get speed matched up on this with

1093
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: Wagner and what's his name sitting back as the perennial

1094
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: stand up backers.

1095
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: So the reason I say he's a question mark to

1096
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: me in addition to this position change is I agree

1097
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: with you. I think they do want speed on the field. Yeah,

1098
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: so why not put Dominice Campton, Percy Butler, Derrek Forest Chair,

1099
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: Mike Sanders still as that extra linebackers. When you watched

1100
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Dallas last year, they're in dime.

1101
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: But guess what but bringing it.

1102
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: They were bringing guys like following in and they would

1103
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 4: curse the bringing different guys.

1104
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: Getting rent on them. And I talked to you and

1105
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: they were like, the one thing that we didn't right

1106
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: it Dall is we didn't have enough big I mean

1107
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: running dudes on the second level. That's why they got

1108
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: bigger backers here to be able to take on the

1109
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: run like they don't want to get gooded like that.

1110
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: Yes, they did play like that.

1111
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: They said, we got the right idea, we just got

1112
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: the wrong personnel. We need to figure out the personnel

1113
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: on the field.

1114
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: I'm kind of with Fred on that. I think Jamie

1115
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: is one of those guys that he's so athlected. He's

1116
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 4: so afgected. He's very gifted and you can see last

1117
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: year is probably his best year that no one give

1118
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: him credit for. He was still getting used playing linebacker

1119
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: and probably wasn't playing his best, you know what I mean.

1120
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: Like he's a guy that I don't think he still

1121
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: hasn't reached his ceiling.

1122
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: And that's not even close.

1123
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 4: It's still there, you know what I mean. So I

1124
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: want I won't be against I think he gonna go

1125
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: out there and rate lot of eyebrow showing you the hostel.

1126
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 4: I can do this. I can do this because now

1127
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: he's in a situation he like a football, but he's

1128
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: a guy that put him on the field on defense they.

1129
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Go chase run wild.

1130
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, And that's what I've seen from him

1131
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: at the linebacker positions. Half the time he knows what

1132
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: he's doing. Halftime he doesn't, but he's somewhere around the ball.

1133
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.

1134
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: So and so I guess that's what I'm you know,

1135
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: in terms of stuff to watch, like does he do that?

1136
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because they got guys like

1137
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: Pittman had a really good off season, multiple interceptions, played linebacker,

1138
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: Louvu McGee really good off seasons. Obviously Bobby had a

1139
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: good offseason, and they were playing linebacker, you know what

1140
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's something as a fan when i

1141
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: come in and I'm watching this and I'm looking at

1142
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: what they did in the spring they do now, it's

1143
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: like where does does he have a role? Does he fit?

1144
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Does he do what you're describing or does he or

1145
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: does he not pick up the pass rush stuff?

1146
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: And I think he picks up the pass rush stuff.

1147
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying.

1148
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: Right as of the Chris cleaning thing, that's why I'm

1149
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: so glad you brought Chris up.

1150
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: They got the same bodybuild like people thought Chris was

1151
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: too small.

1152
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: Lad thought he was just like he was talking like

1153
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: a basketball.

1154
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: He's a tweener, all right.

1155
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: And so they had Chris standing up at the beginning

1156
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: of training camp. They let him rush the pass against

1157
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: Chris Samuels. One practice after that, I have never seen

1158
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: Chris Clemens stand up again.

1159
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: You know why.

1160
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: They understand when his hand is in the dirt when

1161
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: he comes off of this ball, that that first step.

1162
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: Is quicker than anything you can see.

1163
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is I think what they saying

1164
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: is with Jamie, he's been used wrong. Let's use him

1165
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: right and see can we get it all out of him.

1166
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 3: I think they're more excited about Jamie than most people

1167
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: think that.

1168
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so, I mean I really do, because

1169
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: I want these guys to make the team. Fans, because

1170
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: you said a couple of names on defense, I was like,

1171
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying though, Like they have no

1172
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: tie to him.

1173
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no they don't.

1174
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: If it don't work, no, no it don't work.

1175
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: No it does it.

1176
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: But I know they have a tie of good talent,

1177
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: and I think he's a good talent.

1178
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I think blindbacker obviously because of Jamie Davis.

1179
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: It's really interesting and like just how the depth charts

1180
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: office right, And then I look at the defensive backs

1181
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: and that's like like they're proud. I don't know what

1182
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna do, and just I think on the outside,

1183
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: I said Benjamin Saint Juice right, seems that way.

1184
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: You know what, I can say this about the Juice man.

1185
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: Talk to me about him, all right, and this is

1186
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 3: gonna be true and it's gonna always hold up. He's

1187
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: with Dan Quinn and dan Quinn loves tall long um coms.

1188
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: I talked to him coming out of school. He was

1189
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 3: not effectuated by nothing else about me besides my arms.

1190
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Did he really you talk to you coming out school?

1191
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: Just damn dums?

1192
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Where was he?

1193
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: Well? Was he? He wasn't green Not at Green Bay?

1194
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Was he at Green Bay? Was he somewhere?

1195
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: But he liked like That's why he had brown and

1196
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 3: brown on and Richard like he said, Richard was just

1197
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: so good at jamming.

1198
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: But I wasn't gonna let Richard play his face.

1199
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: He likes conas now, but that he does love ConA

1200
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: with thieves.

1201
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: He loved hands like he's about turnovers.

1202
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: And if I look at a guy and say, who's

1203
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: more predicated to have a great.

1204
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: Year not a good year? In this defense? Corner wise,

1205
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: is it Forbes? Is it Saint Juice?

1206
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: To me?

1207
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: Is Forbes? Forbes is the corner they like because.

1208
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: They like x Y receivers. They like x y receivers

1209
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: who get their ball. They don't care about you getting beat.

1210
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna get beat. But if we get to mid season,

1211
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: and let's say, let's say we get to the ten game,

1212
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: and Saint Jews has no interceptions. We're used to that,

1213
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: and everybody that studied him. He has two interceptions in

1214
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: his last seven years of his career, going back to college.

1215
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't think that does it for wit Rich like

1216
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: his corners to get the ball. I think the starting

1217
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 3: parent is going to be Saint Juice in Forbes off

1218
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: for length a long.

1219
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: But no Davis David.

1220
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: I think it's just third guy in the outside rotation,

1221
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: in the inside rotation.

1222
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: I think Sandy Square gonna get reps. But I think

1223
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 2: it has started off more, uh, play safety out.

1224
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: The nickel.

1225
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: I think Kuanna start off the nickel.

1226
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: While he wrote tasts his safety, I think they want

1227
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: to store him off his safety, I mean corner. So

1228
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 3: when they do start putting him in safety, you wanted

1229
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: to win where he's it, he's your peace.

1230
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so I look at that and I

1231
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: say that seems pretty straightforward. Then obviously, like Noig Monogany

1232
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: is probably in the mixed there at some point.

1233
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: But Mike, Mike Davis, I'm sorry he's not there too.

1234
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: But the Davis one of those guys.

1235
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but then you got Jeremy Chin, Dominic Campton,

1236
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: Jeremy Reeves, Derek Forrest, Percy Butler, Kwan Martin and uh yeah,

1237
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: those are the kind of safeties And to me, safety

1238
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: is maybe the most compelling position because it seems like

1239
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: they all are gonna a lot of those guys will play.

1240
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Five of those guys will play in this defense.

1241
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 4: So you hear be read I see Forrest playing to

1242
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Forrest come back and get his job.

1243
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: Do you start again? But I think that's the thing

1244
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: we're trying to do with his exercise is like, we

1245
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: don't know. That's what's a good thing.

1246
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: Don't know.

1247
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: That's a good thing that we don't know.

1248
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's something I'm excited to see.

1249
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: Is you know the Jamon Davis is like, how does

1250
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle shake out? But number one on defense

1251
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: to me, safety because they use everybody. You know, they

1252
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: got dimes, they got Nickels, they got big, big safety linebackers,

1253
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: they got pass rushing linebackers, they got they rotate these

1254
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: three kind of in the back end. Jeremy Chin coming in,

1255
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: who's got like this perfect body type of what they

1256
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: want to do. So I don't know. And then a

1257
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: guy that I think could be disrupted on the outside

1258
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: is chanoga Enusium the kid from Colorado?

1259
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: Right, say that again?

1260
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: No, No, that's wrong. I know Anusium?

1261
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: Is this? Is it? The academic accolades of the Pulses?

1262
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: Is this the pols? And we get all right with.

1263
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: So obviously we talked about who's on the bubble, who

1264
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: needs to improve? With all that stuff. Really excited to

1265
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: watcha offense defense develops. Yeah, and now let's talk about

1266
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of fans coming out to training camp.

1267
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1268
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: Uh, let's teach them how to watch practice.

1269
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: Let's do that. Let's do that.

1270
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: So what are the steps in training camp evaluation?

1271
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: Tanna?

1272
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: Do you want to start?

1273
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: Because I know Fred has been talking this whole time.

1274
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: I mean, he has been talking talking too much. I

1275
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: think one of the things that that stands out to me,

1276
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 4: I wrote it down, but I won't even go out.

1277
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: You should be the top of my head still. And

1278
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: this is just from being a receiver some of the

1279
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 4: things I thought they was watching, you know what I mean,

1280
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: when they when they kind of evaluating what they're you know,

1281
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 4: what they're seeing. I think they see they watching to

1282
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: see how can we transfer what we learned in the

1283
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 4: classroom to the field.

1284
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, uh.

1285
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 4: One on one competition battles, our battles one on one

1286
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 4: wise and then how are you in that team setting?

1287
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 4: How many plays you're making individually? All right? Do you

1288
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: have your alignment and your assignment and when the ball

1289
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: coming your way do you make your play?

1290
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: Not?

1291
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: And when the ball is not coming your way do

1292
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: you go out there and make sure you're protecting or

1293
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 4: blocking black side and all that stuff as a receiver.

1294
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: That's the kind of evaluation that I think that we

1295
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: go through far as you know, you know from I

1296
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 4: guess you can say a coaching level.

1297
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: You know, if a fans watching that practice, what you

1298
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: look out for.

1299
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: So so, if a fan watching practice, they should watch.

1300
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 4: I mean, for the for the most part, friend watching

1301
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 4: the guys they like, you know what I mean, they

1302
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 4: not really caring about.

1303
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

1304
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: If you're feeling if I'm you try to teach them,

1305
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: say this is how you take the most out of

1306
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: NFL practice by watching this, this and this.

1307
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, so well this is how I would say. Look

1308
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 4: at it like this. If if I'm telling the fan,

1309
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: when you're come into practice and you come in and

1310
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 4: check it out, watch the guys that's holding the water.

1311
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: I'm being watch the guys that's holding the water, because

1312
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 4: the guys are holding the water normally going to the

1313
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: guys that's making the place. Yeah, this.

1314
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: Word level stuff.

1315
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 4: I'm being funny, but by the same time, I'm telling

1316
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 4: you the guys that's holding the water going to the

1317
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 4: guys that's making the place, that's going on the field.

1318
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 4: But to be on, be on, be on, the be

1319
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: on the upside of just seeing it's it's gonna be,

1320
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: it's gonna be phases in practice, And like I said before,

1321
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna get the different dress one on one battles,

1322
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: watching them one on one battles, you're gonna get the

1323
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: ooze in the odds from there. Then when you get

1324
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 4: to the team periods, you're watching your guys, whoever your

1325
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 4: guy is offensively, off, your guy defensively. But to me,

1326
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: I don't think a fan really comes to practice trying

1327
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: to look at you know what I mean, who's who's

1328
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 4: doing what? They're gonna watch everybody and just want some

1329
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: damn aatterograss after the game anyway, And then when you

1330
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: tell them this guy, this guy stay on the team

1331
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: and this guy getting cut, then they's gonna they're gonna

1332
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: settle for that or or be all right with it.

1333
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: But I don't think they're out there really trying to evaluate,

1334
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Who's who's gonna make the squad?

1335
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: You tell me?

1336
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 3: I think I think this is what you gotta do.

1337
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: First of all, fans, keep up with the schedule. Understand

1338
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 3: the schedule of practice. Once you understand the schedule of practice,

1339
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 3: understand what's relevant and what's irrelevant. There looking at ver

1340
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: what's relevant, I'm gonna tell him sort out with what's

1341
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: not ra When we're scratching before practice, that's not.

1342
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: That's not relevant.

1343
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: Now, Jewels, you'll see us do our individual drills, and.

1344
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: It's boring to y'all.

1345
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 3: This backpilling, this cuttin, it's coming out of breaks, just

1346
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: doing this this tedious running this route, getting at the

1347
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: top of the block.

1348
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: Stem like they are, y'all not gonna be into that.

1349
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: Now when we get into the one on ones competition,

1350
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: this when y'all are gonna start to really get your

1351
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: Your ears are gonna start to.

1352
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 4: Perk up oo's and as all right.

1353
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 3: First of all, I like how they do one on

1354
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: ones because they do two on tools here where they

1355
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 3: do wire receiver slot versus corner in slot.

1356
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: So I enjoy that.

1357
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: Make sure you watch that so now you get to

1358
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 3: see people work without all the living being on the field.

1359
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 3: Of course, you love to see Jade drop in at

1360
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 3: sixty yard route where they warming up with the wire receiver.

1361
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: It look good, they feel good. Don't worry about him

1362
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: doing that they do on one on one because he

1363
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: go to trooth about one on one the wire receiver

1364
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: got the whole damn field and we got nothing right.

1365
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest.

1366
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: If you if you're a quarterback close to that wire

1367
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: cver when he catched that ball to knock it down,

1368
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 3: you did your job.

1369
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: Nicks.

1370
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: All you need to worry about this team drills. Like

1371
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 3: when I say team drills, when you see seven.

1372
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: On seven, Sorry, would you say that's the most important thing?

1373
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 4: I was want to say for the fans, for the fans,

1374
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: so no, I would say, and I don't want to

1375
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: take you out. Seven on seven is what the fans

1376
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: like more because you got to think and team especially

1377
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: if we're not thudding, we're not hit them. Watching a

1378
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: running back run through the hole and not get tackled,

1379
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: it's like okay, golf clap, you know what I mean?

1380
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: Seven on seven when you seeing those guys really we

1381
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 4: running routes against each other against So I would think

1382
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: a seven on seven or matchup would be more exciting

1383
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: for you know, for the fan base. But but I

1384
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 4: don't think the team would be something that they're looking

1385
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: forward to because we're not really live, you know what

1386
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: I mean, not really live.

1387
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: But I think once they see us all in unison

1388
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 3: in action like this where they get those now even

1389
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: at the back, not getting here, but if they just

1390
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 3: talked to him a pinch and he he faints one

1391
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: guy like they want this is what they want to see.

1392
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: This where the lights that the cameras are flashing, this

1393
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: where everything's happening all like say, take it in like

1394
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: a practice. Don't leave this practice, like ah, this dude

1395
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: ain't the dude ain't. It's a prectice all right.

1396
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of those like bottom half of the

1397
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: roster guys, in terms of evaluation, in my opinion, team periods,

1398
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the most EVO because they're playing football.

1399
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1400
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: If you're a fan, you want to be like a scout,

1401
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: get your notebook out right. It's hard now because there's

1402
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: no replays. They're all going at the same time. But like,

1403
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: let's say you're watching Brandon Coleman. You know everyone's excited

1404
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: about him. Watch all his pass rush reps. Not in

1405
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: one on ones because he's going to lose some of those. Yeah,

1406
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: how does he do in team? Does he get the

1407
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: combinations communicated? Is he targeting runs correctly? That's where you

1408
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: get a better evaluation receiver? Same thing like you were saying, Tanna, right,

1409
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: because they're playing ball. Are they running routes to win

1410
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: versus coverage? Because in one on ones or seven on

1411
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: seven there's no play action fixed, so the linebackers just

1412
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: get out of the window. Right, Is he getting open

1413
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: in those settings? And I think that to me, like

1414
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: so when someone catches the ball and seven on seven,

1415
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, great, Cool, someone catches the ball in one

1416
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: on ones? Cool, one versus man coverage that's important you

1417
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: get in team. You're getting touches in team. I think

1418
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: that those those weigh those reps more because it's more football.

1419
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: Special feel, And that sounds like a guy who coaches. Yeah,

1420
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, you can tell you know what

1421
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: I mean. Because I'm just gonna be real with you,

1422
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 4: like I know from just being out there amongst the fans,

1423
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 4: because you know, we had a couple of meetings. They

1424
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: talking and he excuse me, my friends they do more

1425
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,479
Speaker 4: talking than Hey, you saw that. They miss the whole

1426
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's why I say,

1427
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, don't get me wrong,

1428
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: that's gonna be. That's going to be practices. Where are

1429
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 4: they are really saying? Okay, this is when things are

1430
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 4: getting critical. Now we're getting ready for a game, getting

1431
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 4: worried for a preseason game. Let's see what guys are

1432
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: out there, who's showing up, who continues to show up.

1433
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 4: And so now we can take that and say, Okay,

1434
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 4: I saw this guy do this two days before this

1435
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: preseason game, so I'm looking forward to seeing him do

1436
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: it and this weekend.

1437
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: The other thing that drives me absolutely no, this is

1438
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: more of a pet peeve, you know, just in general,

1439
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: is when someone's on the old Instagram or you know,

1440
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: Twitter or whatever and they post a video of routes

1441
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: on air or like patent go and I.

1442
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: Was like, look at this catch hate it.

1443
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, but my god, showing why I.

1444
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: Received it tight ends so much.

1445
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: First of all, my high school is over there doing

1446
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: it and y'all give it him.

1447
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, look at Tenor told.

1448
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: Drake's Tom Colin don it's getting mad at me.

1449
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: But told dragging the ball that you.

1450
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, you're talking about it. I hate

1451
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: it too, like the only time like I would because

1452
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 4: I will always repost people things that they put out there.

1453
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: I hated doing it to my guys because I'm like,

1454
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: come on, this is a practice and I remember, I deal,

1455
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 4: but it's.

1456
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: Like it's like even like it's like the worst part

1457
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: of practice.

1458
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: Now I will. So I say this because I did

1459
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 4: this one time when d Hall and me had a

1460
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 4: we had a one on one and somebody saying something.

1461
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 4: I got to post this, you know what I mean.

1462
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 4: I had to repost it, but I gave the hall

1463
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 4: props because I'm like, man, I know this is the hall,

1464
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: not time I ten the hall practicing and the hall.

1465
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: Playing two different people.

1466
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: You know what you got two seconds and a half,

1467
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1468
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 4: So wet in one on one it's no pass rushing,

1469
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: no nothing. But I think that I think what you

1470
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 4: can look at, and that's what fans look at. They

1471
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: just looking at the exciting part that that guy making

1472
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 4: that play. If you don't make the play, then you

1473
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: know they're not worrying about none of that. They want

1474
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: to see the guy make the play.

1475
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,959
Speaker 3: You know what, The only person I can say really

1476
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: feel pressure practice, no matter what the situation is, it's

1477
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 3: the kicker.

1478
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: Because he don't get too much time to shot.

1479
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: He got this one period and if he missed it

1480
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: while they cried, I would, they will boo you.

1481
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: The kicker is the only person that get booed at

1482
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: training camp. Think about it.

1483
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: Who else am I can get beat?

1484
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 4: You remember that period when the coaches bring everybody up

1485
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: and say, all right, you got these last kicks, no

1486
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: practice practice tomorrow.

1487
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: Don't make this little no whisp princes, no whisp prince

1488
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: about seventy three yards? Like, what are you talking about?

1489
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The kicker is constantly underpressure. He

1490
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: don't practice with us, he gonna do nothing. We call

1491
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 3: him up for one period.

1492
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: Dude, that always used to crack me up. When who

1493
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: was it was like ky four bath or something. Yeah,

1494
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: he was here and watching I play with them? Soccer player.

1495
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: He come out there with his golf clubs. They've been

1496
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: doing like chips on the side.

1497
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: They have nothing to do.

1498
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 3: But when your number is called, kick it. You have

1499
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: nothing to do for a quarter. They like, you know,

1500
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: just you know, three seconds left, we need your ship.

1501
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: Should have knocked us in the head. Shank, worst care going

1502
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: around time. He the reason for the season.

1503
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: This is it, Like I'm just saying, it's one of

1504
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: those jobs. We love you when we love you, we

1505
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: hate you when you hate you.

1506
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Is kicking unfair? I don't know. We don't give them

1507
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: no props until we need them.

1508
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Is hard, by the way, it's very very hard.

1509
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. We had a contest.

1510
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. You were terrible. Yeah, check that out.

1511
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: That's on YouTube. One of the funniest things every way.

1512
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: So it was just like he just runs and kicks the.

1513
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: We just I had to say this every time. No

1514
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: one wanted that, but Fred. Fred was like, oh, I

1515
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: can hick your thirty five yard field goal. And I

1516
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: was like, no, you can't. He's like, bet, let's do

1517
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: it right now. And I was like, all right, right,

1518
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: that's what happened, you right, Everyone things I'm picking on

1519
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: Fred Fred brought that on himself. Fred was talking to me.

1520
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: He bulleted me in basketball with a no sh.

1521
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: You said, you getting shower.

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Speaker 3: I would jogging around Chicago to win to see it

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Speaker 3: the other day shirt jogging right now, They're like, I

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Speaker 3: just kept on talking.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: This man for sure? All right, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for today's show. Thanks so much for joining us, And

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. Oh and the podcast words, that's a

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Speaker 1: big one. Make sure you do that too.

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Speaker 2: Please devote Bye.

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