WEBVTT - Yes on Prop 50 | Angela Rye SoloPod 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.760 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.800 Reezon Choice Media. Hello, everyone, we are just about to 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.600 get started. We have a really important conversation today was 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:16.120 one of my favorite commentators. This is a special edition 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:21.000 of Native Lampods, my solo pod. I'm Angela Rye and 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.360 we are going to go ahead. Shout out to Daniel 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.080 in the comments Welcome home. That is our official. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.360 Song writer and rapper. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.640 So I want to go ahead and get started with 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:33.440 Legally hype A B. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:34.360 Tucker, who is. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.600 One of my favorite attorneys and someone who is absolutely 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:44.040 skilled and brilliant on the issues we're going to discuss today. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.680 I stepped into it yesterday with some of y'all and 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.480 it's fine. We're gonna talk about where I'm wrong, where 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.200 I know I'm right, and I'm sure that Legally Hypo 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.480 have some things to add them, maybe a little different, 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:58.960 So we can go ahead and get started. Now. We 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.160 are talking Prop fifty, which is on the ballot in 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.520 California in this upcoming election on November fourth, and we're 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.400 also talking about you have a new sum So let's 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:13.280 get started. Hey, hey girl, Hey, how are you. I'm 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.640 excited about this so y'a frames your glasses are so cute. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:16.840 I'm going to tell you that in one of the 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.600 posts you put up the other day with a little 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:24.199 will go to yeah, you should have rocked it today. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.039 Since everybody want to be a thug in. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.440 My comments, I know, and I normally do when I 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.720 do my Prop fifty stuff. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:31.960 You called me slipping a little bit. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.880 Hank go hug you. Okay, Well, I want to do 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.440 this first because I think this is the most important thing. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.840 Hearing the objections around timing, I want to start with 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.280 what's most important. The main thing right now is the 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.480 election that's coming up on November fourth. So I would 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.240 love for you to tell people in your labman's terms 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.040 and you gonna lay women's terms, what is Prop fifty and 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.640 why should California voters care and why should the rest 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:57.920 of the country be good allies? 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:58.880 Yeah? 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.080 I mean so, the way I've been framing it for 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.120 my audience is Prop fifty is basically our way to 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.680 buck up against racism in this country. Right, So you 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:12.680 have Republican led states, right, you got red states. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.799 This what we're doing in California. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.760 Is pretty much on the back of where Texas had 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.760 us messed up. They started redrawing their districts so that 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.800 they had the Republicans would have more political power in Congress, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.040 right to a point where people didn't even know that 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.200 that's how representatives were chosen, like, oh, you could read 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.160 all the lines, yes, right, so they read draw them 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.640 so that black people and brown people would basically have 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.360 less of a stay in their boat, right, and so 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.919 we wouldn't have the same type of representation when we 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.160 got to Congress. So what California said where Prop fifty 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.320 was like, okay, bet Texas, we got some for you. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.160 You want to read. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.800 All your lines, we can get our pencils and we 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.520 can redraw them too, but we're gonna one up you 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.000 with that one, as opposed to just slick slick this 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.200 in our constituents, right, slick dis in Californias and being like, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:02.839 we just gonna do what we want to do. We're 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.919 gonna let California choose. Is this what you want to 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:05.720 do do? 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.120 They went low, do you want to squabble up? 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.160 So went Prop fifty is basically California's way to squabble 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.359 up against Texas and say no, we're not gonna play 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.600 with you like that. We're gonna we're gonna balance out 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.400 the score, right, And what we're gonna do is, if 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.120 y'all still some Republican seats, we're gonna make them seats 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.200 Democrat in California, and it's gonna be even, it's gonna 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.920 be balanced. So it's basically like a head head up 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:30.000 fade against Texas. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.760 Right now, did that make sense? That makes service sense 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.680 to me. It makes perfect sense to me. Now for 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.400 those of you who are like I want to know 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.080 what the Secretary of State's official voter guide says or 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.520 read that to you. Prop fifty authorizes temporary changes to 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:49.880 congressional district maps in response to Texas partisan redistricting legislative 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.080 constitutional Amendment. I want to take this moment to shout 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.800 out Jelanda Jones, who many of us got to know 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.440 from her very fierce advocacy around what was happening in 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.400 Texas and the co coliar I did her first interview 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.320 when she decided to say, okay, well, since y'all don't 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.320 want to do nothing, I'm gonna be right here and 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.800 they so we're gonna lock you on the House Shabor floor. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.320 And she was like, mine, somebody bring me some snacks. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.120 So we're very clear that this is not just something 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.600 that's impacting California as California voters. It is across the country. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.320 The math does not really math for us. I think 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.360 we should be honest about that. Yeah, in a lot 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.640 of ways, this is going to be an uphill battle. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:31.640 But yes, unquestionably vote yes on Prop fifty. For additional 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.520 information on Prop fifty, the guest voters, that's the only 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.040 information I'm willing to give you right now is at 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.960 Stop Election Rigging dot com. This is a ballot measure 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:47.000 that is being championed by Governor Gavin Newsom. It is 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.040 also a ballot measure that was passed and that's how 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.000 it got on the ballot to begin with, by the 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.360 California State Legislature. So let's be very clear about that now. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.080 This is where the trouble began, your friend. So yesterday, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.600 first of all, I want to shout out our new 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:05.159 social team. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.440 But our new social team is with all the smoke. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.120 Okay, so they are captioning things in ways then you know, 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.799 maybe I wouldn't capturing it that way, but it's fine. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.160 It's a learning lesson. We're learning a pattern. And there 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.880 was a lot of engagement on the posts, and I 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.279 thought it was actually healthy because there are folks who 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:25.560 do have misinformation on what's going on in California, not 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.320 really clear about what happened with Gavin Newsom last week. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.039 And the reparations measures that we're calling reparations measures that 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.320 I actually have an argument for, they're not necessarily reparations 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.440 as we would normally see them. And then the timing, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.200 So some of the things that came up sis is 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.080 folks felt like I shouldn't have posted that video because 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.839 the timing is bad given the Prop fifty vote, which 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.479 is in two weeks now, it's roughly two weeks. And 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.000 then of course early voting has already began here, folks 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.040 who are mailing in ballots are already mailing in ballots, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.200 so they're like, why you got to do this right now? 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.800 Why you messing with Gavin right And then the other 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.400 thing that came up is somebody said, well, I don't 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.000 know why you're doing this. We're never getting reparations. Not 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.920 willing to see that point. And then the other thing 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.680 that has come up quite a bit is why would 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.919 you attack Gavin Newsom when he's the only fighter we 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:23.040 have against Donald Trump, and I think that some of 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:28.799 my issue with that is I think that people have. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:30.840 To walk into gum at the same time. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.919 And when I say that, people are like, all right, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:38.080 well you you are saying that we can walk at 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.240 your gum, but people can't ever really discern or decipher 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:42.640 what's on a ballot what's not. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.799 And I would just say to that, I resent that. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.800 Because, like, first of all, if you a black girl 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.560 in America, we learned how to double dutch, that is 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.560 better than walking into and at the same time. Okay, 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.400 they might not know about double dutch, but I know 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.719 about double dutch. And I think like, if we can walk, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.200 we can drive, we can wrap while we drive it, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.080 we can stop at the light, we can signal, we 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.760 can do multiple things at once. And right now we're 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.200 in an environment where we got to walk into gum 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.200 because of the shut Now we got to walk into 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.600 gun because of the attacks on the Monica MacIver and 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.440 Tis James and Fannie Willis who they're now going after. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.200 We have to walk into gum because we are seeing 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.760 trouble on every side. Not to mention this man has 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.360 decided to tear a hole in the in the east 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.600 wing of the White House and is seeking his own 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.480 reparations restitution from the Department of Justice to the tune 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.400 of two hundred and thirty million dollars. That would be 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.560 our taxpayer dollars. But every time black folks need something, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.840 my good sister, we have to wait our turn, wait 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:43.400 in line. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:44.160 It's not time. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.880 And I think that that is actually a great disservice 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:47.640 to our folks. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.600 So here's my issue. I want to know why. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.920 We cannot say we should vote yes on Prompt fifty 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.360 because that is in our strategic best interest, that is 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.000 in a line with our political power, that ensures that 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.280 we have access to the ballot box. And then when 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.960 we go, there are people who think and hopefully also 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.440 look like us when we go, because what they've done 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.200 in Texas and what they're doing in North Carolina, what 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.200 they're doing in Missouri, and what they're doing in Indiana 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:21.760 and Texas absolutely is racist. Yeah. So if that's the case, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.840 we have to have people who will be filters in 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.640 combat that. But I want them to keep that same 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.520 energy when black people need to be made whole. So 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.280 now that's what I wanted to say about that. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.880 Yeah, So I agree, So I don't think that we're 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.600 incapable of walking and chewing gum, right, But going back 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.160 to the driving analogy, like you still have to learn 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.320 how to drive, and everybody hasn't got their lesson, I 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.959 think is what the argument is in the comment section, right. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:50.240 So I don't think. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.319 That you're wrong in addressing it, right, putting it out 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.280 there and being like we need to look at both 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.560 sides of this. But I think what people are concerned about. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.960 But it seemed like what I read comments people are 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.760 concerned about is what we're learning is a lot of people. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.880 Just can't walk and choose them right. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.439 They either learn how to walk and then learn how 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.080 to chew, right, or didn't learn how to walk and 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.320 learn how to chew and now we're having to teach 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:16.360 them simultaneously. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.160 Majority, I don't want to say majority. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.240 What we're finding out is a lot of people are 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:26.319 more civically illiterate than we probably assume. So I think 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.839 it's more of a concern from those who are one 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:33.680 check minded, right that Okay, well we're not explaining to people, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.680 you know about Prop fifty. People are unable to separate 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.720 Prop fifty from Gavin Newsom, and there in lies the issue. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.560 So why let's talk, let's stop, let let's be right there, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:44.400 let's be right there. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:49.720 Why Because Gavin is the face and that's all people understand, right, 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.520 Gavin is the face of Prop fifty. Gavin is the governor. Right, 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.240 people don't understand it's levels to this. It's the whole 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.080 state legislator that had to write this and redraw this. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:00.679 He andrew map the. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.679 First Okay, I'm pretty sure he didn't sit in that meeting. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.720 They probably the legislative sat in that meeting, decided what 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.400 they wanted to do and then put it on his 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.880 desk and said this will be rolling with. Right, But 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.959 he is the face, right, all they see is two faces, 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.400 Chump and Gavin, two white boys duking it out. And 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.120 that's where we come here to educate and say, Gavin 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:26.600 is one thing. Gavin is the artist and Prop fifty 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.920 is the song. So you're gonna have to separate the 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:29.840 artists from the song. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:30.440 Right. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.439 You ain't really gotta like the artists. You ain't gotta 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.120 like everything they do, how they move, but that song 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:36.760 is a. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.400 Banger right there. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.800 Right, You don't gotta agree with everything they wear or 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.240 how they speaking, how they talk. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.200 And matter of fact, if they do somebody line, you 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.160 should call them out. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.600 But that doesn't mean that this one here right here 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:50.840 ain't no banger. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:56.439 Right, So it's teaching people, look this this my gem 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.160 might even gonna hold you, But I ain't gonna sit 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.600 at dinner right with. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.040 The artists because I don't really fool with you like that, Right, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.600 That's what we have to get people to like recognize 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.720 as we start to as we work towards doing better 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.920 at educating people about how civics works and the bureaucracy 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.560 of it all. But also at different levels, people only 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.560 know executive, judicial, and legislative. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.520 They don't know who where. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.440 I also question if they even know that, because that's 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.840 the point. Right, Like you are talking about like they're 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.560 like timing, I'm like, I didn't choose the timing if 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.360 I were if I were on his team, and I don't. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.080 Know that you would do this, but if I would 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:41.800 have if I'm. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.959 On his team, I'm saying, Hey, if you're waffling at 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.000 all about doing what's in the best interests of black 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.920 folks right now, you should hold this until after the election. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.760 That's what I would do. And then that's not I 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:54.240 don't know if. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.480 Peoples advised that and didn't listen or what. But I'm like, y'all, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.000 I'm not the timing issue here. This happened last week 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.079 for Mamaria's birthday. We got reparation vetos. Do you understand? 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.760 And my thing is this, like he has one role 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.160 and as an executive, he has to sign into a 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:17.040 lot or veto legislation that comes to him from the 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:22.480 state legislature. That is important to understand. In addition to that, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.240 we have a role as the citizens. We can say 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.640 that ain't cool. I don't like that. I'm gonna hold 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.880 you accountable on that. But what I'm not about to 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:35.120 do over here is lose my political power. I'm not 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.040 going to be further restricted. I'm not gonna have ninety 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.840 Gavins now or worse, ninety Trumps right, because you're not 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.440 going to represent my best interest. So I'm gonna make 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.760 sure you do. And the only way I can make 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.080 sure you do is tell you what my agenda is. Now, 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.600 here's the real issue on timing. I'm not your timing problem. Friends, Okay, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.560 we have not been in alignment on what a black 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.679 agenda looks like. We would say and maybe you might 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.160 be a little younger than me, so you may not 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:09.199 remember this. But when when Barack Obama was sworn into office, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.040 black people are like, finally we about to get free, y'all. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.360 Now people wrote articles like, oh, we're post racial now right, 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:21.440 racism is over. It's bad hallelujah. They said, Okay, now, 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.760 I know he's black. But what we gotta do is 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.719 we gotta wait till the second term. See, because in 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.560 the second term, that's when black people gonna get free. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.280 Howbolition is going to be realized when Barack Obama's second 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:39.800 term comes. And what we don't always understand is that 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.679 there are windows of opportunity. If you lose a majority, 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.719 the window is gone. If you lose you know, the 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.640 running make the window could be gone. If you lose 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.560 a particular outline an issue, the window is gone. So 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.480 what we have to understand is there is never a 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.960 bad time a poor time to seek justice. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.319 You gotta do that. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.319 And so what my my urging would be, since you're 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.920 talking about people being typically engaged, is one for the 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.400 folks who think they are political strategists and have no 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.280 political background whatsoever. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.439 I'm fine with that. You could educate you too. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.040 Make sure you know that right now is not the midterms, baby, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.000 midterms are in twenty twenty six. If you want to 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.400 be a political strategist and advise people, make sure you 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.200 let them know that their obligation is to go to 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.960 the polls. That's their role, but they also that's not 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.320 the only role we have as citizens. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.560 We also have a role to hold the. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.000 Elected officials accountable, whether we voted for them or not. Right, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.840 I want to vote, But if that wasn't your person, 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.680 that's not the person that you wanted. They still work 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.680 for you because your taxpayer dollars pay them, and so 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.480 you have every right to hold them accountable because you're 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.680 accountable at the ballot box. Right. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:52.800 But I think also like. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.800 Sorry not to cut you off, but like also emphasizing 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:01.200 that part of your civic engagement and civic duty is 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.320 to have discourse and disagreement and to be able to 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.240 call out government. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:05.560 Right. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.440 That's the whole purpose of the First Amendment is to 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.680 be like, oh, you got me messed up. I need 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.360 to say something about this, And it does not benefit 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.640 us not to speak up, because what happens is we 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.120 play quiet, and we play passive and then we get 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.120 passed over, but it's our opportunity, right. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.960 For something to turn for us. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.840 We see everybody else getting loud and proud and ignorant 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.800 and whatever, and they get exactly. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.840 What they're asking for, right, So we also have to. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.520 Be mindful of if we don't say nothing, they don't 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.280 know we watch it, you know what I mean? Like 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.880 I always tell people, if that is your RSVP, if 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.200 you don't speak up and say nothing, you're not URSVP. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.680 So why should they care about your issues? So as 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.280 things go down the timeline right and we start stretching, 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:50.000 he starts seeking other positions and other opportunities. We didn't 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:54.040 forget how you did us back in October of twenty 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:59.760 twenty five, right when you got aspirations for another day 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.960 in the future, right, Like that needs to be done. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.040 It's also a learning lesson for Gavin and his team 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.480 as well, because if you didn't pay attention to the 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.680 fact that this could have caused could cause a ripple. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.440 Effect that none of us won't. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.600 You'll pay attention to it later and know better than 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.080 to do some crazy stuff like that ahead of time. Right, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.080 Like you said, the tiiny issue is not on you. 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.360 His team put that out there. They allowed it to 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.720 be out there. He signed that paper on whatevery date 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.040 he signed it. He knew somebody was gonna have to 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.880 say something about it. What you shouldn't underestimate is the 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.880 power of the black voice to call you out about 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.840 it and people to feel some type of way you 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.520 should be put on notice that what you did is. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:38.000 Out of line. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.560 Black people don't like it and they disagree with it, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.840 and that could be an issue for you later, even 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.720 if it's not one with regards to Prop fifty right now. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.920 And I think that's I think that's it too, because 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.080 what I and I even said is somebody was like, 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.080 why don't he come on the show. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:53.400 I was like, he's welcome on the show. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.200 I want to hear his justification for this right and 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.720 I want to say, like, I think Prop fifty your idea. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:01.040 You know. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.360 One of the reasons why I think Prop fifty has 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.520 been hitched to Gavin Newsom is because he was like, oh. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.480 You're doing that, I got answers. I love that. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.040 I think that he has been a formidable sparring partner 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:16.080 with Donald Trump. Formidable. I also think he can do 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.840 better by black people. Yeah, it is not either or 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.400 it is both. In you can be a formidable opponent 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.640 to this fascist and you can also do right by us. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.040 That is just what it is. And I don't want 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.920 I'm not in the mentality or and I no longer 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.119 have the interest to wait my turn. We've been waiting 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.960 our turn since sixty nineteen. We've been waiting our turn 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.720 for something that belongs to us because we ask her to. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.560 We'd ask to be here to begin with. And so 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.399 I think the other thing that I want to do, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:45.760 and then I want to I want to lest some 0:17:45.760 --> 0:18:00.240 folks in. I want to just touch briefly on on 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.200 the bills that he did veto, because I think it's 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.960 worth people in understanding. I also kind of don't like 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.439 the fact that they're called reparations bills because they're not 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.119 traditional reparations packages. Folks got creative, and I want to 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.560 also apply the legislators that dropped these bills. So again, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.720 this is not about voting no on PROD fifty vote 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.359 yes on PROD fifty, to be very clear, because I 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.160 know people get confused when too much time goes back. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.919 So Assembly Bill seven was introduced by Assembly Member Isaac 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:35.040 Bryant past the legislature. This was for post secondary education 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:41.200 admissions preference for descendants of slavery. Right, they have Assembly 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.400 Member Tina mckinner AB fifty seven. This is the California 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.280 Dream for All program for descendants of formerly enslaved people. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.040 And this is this is a measure that also passed. 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:58.080 Tina is based in Inglewood. Here's yeah, Okay, we keep going. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.359 The next one by Tina mckinnery is civil Rights, the 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:07.919 Civil Rights Department racially addressing racially motivated imminent domain. And 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:13.600 then there are two more Assembly members shaw D El Harary. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.640 I think I'm saying that right, a Department of Consumer 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:21.160 Affairs measure and licensing in particular that would give preference 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:26.359 to applicants who are descendants of slaves and of enslaved people, 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.479 I like to say. And that Assembly Bill seven sixty 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.400 six by doctor lache Sharp Collins. This was with state 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:38.080 agencies and departments that involve ensuring DEE and I included 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:45.080 in strategic plans with state departments. Now, this is my point. 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:50.639 This is something that these are bills that, like, we 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:55.240 had measures like this that protected us at least three 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.680 of the five on the federal government level, these things 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.359 have been eliminated. So if you want to be a 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.080 formidable opponent against Donald Trump, that means you have to 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.280 bring back the things that he's eliminated. That means you 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.320 have to protect us on the state level where we're 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:14.600 no longer covered. That is the theme. Formidable opponent is 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.600 not just sparring, it's not just trolling in Twitter. It's 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:22.000 also making sure that your policies are the antithesis of fascism. 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.879 So what he did approve was a study. And this 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:29.400 is my other beef. Fopa all that smoke for Wes Moore, 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.040 for Governor Wes Moore and Maryland for saying, I'm veat 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.679 on in this study because we juste studied enough, we 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.480 are clear, and I'm gonna tell y'all that's my guy. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.040 I was mad at him. I was like, you can't 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.040 beat all this because the message is is bad and 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:43.640 he was like, no, I'm ready to move to action. 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.560 So I'm like, okay, well what's the action. So here's 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.160 this is the exact opposite situation. Black people introduce measures 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.720 to say here are the actions we would like to see. 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:54.800 And he said, nah, I'm good, I'm gonna take a study. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.200 Bertie had a study. San Francisco did a study. People 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.800 are saying that reparations is not likely in this environment. 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.560 Maybe they got reparations in Ebston, they got them in Charlottesville, 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.880 thinks our good brothers Wes Bellamy. We've seen it. 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:10.720 Happen in Tulsa. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.560 It's not what we want, but it is something. So 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.080 I need the people who are saying they represent us 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.439 to be moving in the right direction. That makes us 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.600 something like Prop fifty easy because we're seeing our political power, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:22.240 because we're. 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:23.960 Feeling empowered in other areas as well. 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:25.320 We come into both. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:26.720 We got to do both. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:28.960 So let's let's see. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:29.600 Who we got in here. 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.560 If you all are interested in raising a point, let's 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.439 say you mad, you mad at something I said, you 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:36.480 mad at something they be said. You want to come 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.280 in and be an an amen corner, We're gonna let 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.719 you in. The rules of engagement are don't call nobody 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.000 out their name. Not only would you get removed from 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.439 the conversation, will likely be blocked from further speaking with 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.760 either of us. Make sure that you have factual information, 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.200 otherwise either one of us is liable to cut you off. 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.200 We can't even help it. It's the attorney innur. 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.680 The thing. We have to make sure that we are 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:05.800 having respectful factual discourse. Yes, it's prop fifty all day, 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.200 but we also want to hear that wherever you are, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:09.880 you take care of black people. I take my nails 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:11.720 after that shut out so to get them paid. 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.840 Look you see, I got my hands down. Normally talk 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:22.280 on my hands, but yeah, you know, okay. 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:23.680 If you want to win in, make sure you send 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.479 it a request and I'm gonna put you in. There 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.399 were some people who had already requested. I don't know 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:28.960 if they are still wanting to. 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.200 We do look k and eye glasses time. They said, 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.000 it's the glasses for me. We look at you and. 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:38.600 Our little friend jerious hijerious. Okay, So if anybody wants 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:39.520 to win in what have. 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.000 You, let's let me see. 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:43.600 Here. 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:48.000 Let's see it's y'all they do. You know, I want 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:49.520 us to be great. We're gonna have to answer your 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:53.600 questions in the comments because for whatever reason, every time 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.600 I try to add another person to the chat, it 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.800 kicks off the entire life. 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:04.760 It's so frustrated. But attain like they watch it. We know, 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.200 not chopping to have you on the list. I'll put 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:10.600 the big wretch. 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:16.720 Listen, listen, but I you know, this is the thing. 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.720 Somebody was in here just over and over again, and 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:19.760 I'm just gonna acknowledge him. 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.000 So he feels seen. He's just like delete the post. 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:23.800 And that's one of the things that kept coming up 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.280 to people, are like, well you said this, and I'm like, no, 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.520 See what you don't understand about me is I'm a 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:31.520 truth teller. No matter what, I'll tell the truth about 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.520 me and let you know, like, hey, I messed up. 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.560 For those of you who just came in, I said. 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.359 One of the things that I do see as challenging 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:43.199 is I didn't love the name of the sticker that 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.520 was across our video from our social team. But it's fine. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.720 You know, it was a betrayal. I think it's not. 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.760 It doesn't it's not town and Mount to sitting at 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.120 home and not voting on Prop fifty. You should vote. Yes, 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.359 I'm Prop fifty. But they're different. They're different, and I 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.480 don't think that we should conflate the two issues. We 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:00.800 have an obligation to be accountab with the voting booth. 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.560 He has an obligation not to for sake, Black people 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.199 who have been the Democratic Party's base in every city, 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.679 in almost every city in most states throughout the Union. 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:11.520 And there's just an obligation. 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:12.639 So I don't know. 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:14.720 If people have questions, we're gonna have to answer them 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:14.879 for me. 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:21.320 Yea son said, I'm new to politics. What do you 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.919 want me and other black men to do? Vote and 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.199 then talk to each other about it. And if you 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:30.280 don't understand it, find somebody you know, find a trusted source. 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:34.160 You know on this source you can follow me to get. 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.040 The information a way that you can understand it and 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.760 ask questions. That's one issue, like, don't be afraid to 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.320 ask questions, especially if you don't understand what's going on. 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:44.840 That's gonna help you more than anything. Because you don't 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:45.479 ask questions. 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.720 If you let somebody feed you a bunch of bullcraps, 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.119 at some point it's gonna start sounding good to you. 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.320 So make sure you ask questions and get clarity. But 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.760 vote yes on Prop fifty. 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.320 Yeah right, And if you're in California and. 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.879 You have a felony, you may it will be eligible 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.800 to vote as long as you are not inclustrated. So 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.240 just because you got a feeling, you don't mean you 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.359 don't need to go and cast your votes. 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:08.840 You should. 0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:14.080 Yeah, exactly, exactly. I love that, somebody said, And now 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.879 I'm trying to find it. They say, Oh, I'm from Oakland, California. 0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.680 I've voted yes and mailed my ballot already. Good, tell 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.800 your mom and take your friends, make. 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.399 Sure that they all go vote. 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:31.600 Now here is this other issue. I think it's important. 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:37.600 I think that we should be able to criticize, to challenge, 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.920 to hold accountable our elected officials. We started talking about 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:46.240 that on the last live that just surprisingly and somehow 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:47.040 went out. 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:48.400 But I think that we've got to. 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.639 Be able to do both things, and part of that 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.000 is being really informed. So at the top of the 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.880 last live, we talked about what Prop fifty was. There's 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.200 somebody in here asking if they can vote for Prop 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.720 fifty even though you live in New Jersey. You can't 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.959 if you're not a California voter. But there should be 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.160 some version of it that comes out of New Jersey. 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.000 You all have an election. 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.600 If you're registered to vote in New Jersey, there's an 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.040 election that's very very important. It's your gubernatorial election. That is, 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.280 who is going to be the next governor of New Jersey. 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.520 That is very very important because it will dictate this 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.400 outcome and how New Jersey responds to this same thing 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.119 that California has responded to, which is this nationwide decimation 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.879 of black political power. What Donald Trump is doing, in 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:37.639 lockstep with Republican legislatures, with Republican governors, is trying to 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.560 prevent us from being able to exercise our franchise and 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.120 if we do, having to vote for people who don't 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.880 necessarily represent our best interests. So one of the things 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.359 that's super scary to me a B is being a 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:52.400 former executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus. They're talking 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.760 about the caucus could be shrunk its sixty two right now, 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.240 it should be sixty three, but Gray Abbott wanted to 0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.760 wait until November four to fill So that's your turner 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.560 seat after he passed. May God rest his soul. But 0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.480 what they're saying is we could end up with half 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.240 the size of the caucus. That we could end up 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:13.680 with only thirty somethings members of the caucus. That is devastating. 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.159 There were more than that when we were celebrating the 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.359 fortieth anniversary of the CVC when I was the ED. 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:24.160 So that's also very very very important for us to understands. 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.480 California is doing its part, but this isn't just on California, 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:28.159 this is itself. 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.760 The nation has a responsibility to respond. 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.719 Because we'll also lose our political capital, right and our 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.400 political seniority within the CVC right Congression of Black Caucus. 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:38.480 That's another major thing. 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.840 So when you talk about people sitting on these different committees, 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.960 in different committee assignments, you know, we got seniority in 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.280 those places, so we have voices in them, put in 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.680 those on those assignments. For a reason, these people would 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:54.159 love to put black folks in some RinkyDink assignment. And 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.680 not that none of them like they all matter, right, 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.359 but they would love to make sure we don't have 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:03.439 access to things like oversight, right, like they don't want 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.679 to send in those positions judicial whatever the you know, 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.240 they will do everything they can to keep us out 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:14.040 of there. And so again this affects everybody, but it's 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.000 separate again, voting. 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.560 For Prop fifty, voting in favor. 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:24.080 Of voting yes on Prop fifty is separate from criticizing 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:29.600 a politician, right, holding them accountables, hold an accountable here 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:30.560 that we should. 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.600 Also like reframe that like if so. 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.920 For example, ABA, you know this, counselor when you have employees, 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.760 somebody works for you and they're not doing they're not 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.000 performing as you want them to perform you want them. 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:51.560 You're saying, hey, you didn't turn in your weekly report 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.840 last week, and I need to know what you did. 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:54.680 You get the. 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.240 Information on what they did, and you're like, well what 0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.200 was you doing? Us? 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.120 Asking people who work for us. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.080 Who we pay with our taxpayer dollars is the same. 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.719 As reviewing your employee. How are they performing? Did they 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.040 meet the mark, did they meet the goal, did they 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.040 meet the deadline? Did they perform as you expected them 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.280 to perform? You laid out what you wanted. Now this 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.920 is the part where I think is on us. But 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.040 you lay out ideally what you want, and you judge 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.480 them based on whether or not they meet the needs, 0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.000 the priorities, the objectives that you. 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:23.840 Laid out for them. 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.200 When they do not do that, you can hold them accountable. 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.880 You can challenge them in a meeting, you can challenge 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.479 them in a public forum, or you can challenge them 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.040 at the ballot box by not voting for them. Now, 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.040 the other thing that's been scary to me is the 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.040 number of people who thought that Gavin Newsom was up 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.760 for reelection, because that's not what we were talking about. Now, 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.360 to AB's earlier point, you might have been the face 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.000 of Prop fifty. He might have been the first one 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.880 to say I'm feeling froggy and I'm leap unless go Texas, 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:55.480 which was great, but like, he's not running for office 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:59.640 right now. He is telling us to find our voting 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.600 power and to recognize that, to realize that, to exercise 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.560 it by supporting Prop fifty. That is a different ball 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:07.640 of wax. Completely. 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:09.360 Absolutely mm hmm. 0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.960 I agree, And I think that's where we need to separate, 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.400 right and we have to stop. I understand that people 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:21.560 are on different levels when it comes to their civic education, 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.400 but we don't learn if we don't speak up. And 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.920 in addition to that, this is the other thing. If 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.440 you have never said nothing, it would have been a 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.120 whole hooping negross. 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:31.480 Who would have been like. 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:43.080 People nothing out flouting right. 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.800 So then the one time, not saying that this is 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.920 the only time, but the one time were like, okay, 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:52.440 well this discacle, this is specifically for black people, and 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.960 we're speaking up people that you trust, you know, in 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.120 leadership positions. 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.480 Then spoke up and said so that now you're like. 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.440 But you should have said it, say tomorrow, next week, I. 0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:07.320 Can tomorrow or just catch up, because if not, we're 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.360 going to continue to be left behind. And I think 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:14.040 this also puts it on us as leaders, us as communicators, 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.240 right those of us who understand what's happening to also 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.560 have those conversations. And I've been screaming this since the 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.760 Pop fifty stuff went down. We got to talk to 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.640 people who we don't necessarily always agree with or always 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.560 want to talk to, or who don't look like us. 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.320 We have to get outside of our circles. 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.000 My number one thing with Prop fifty, which is why 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.719 I always earn my goals when I do, we'll talk 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.680 about Prop fifty because I told them, folks, I want 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.680 to talk to the auntie who come outside with her 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.520 shower capone and her cigarette hanging out her mouth. She 0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.719 got a three leg dog named Toto, and all she 0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.520 wears flip flops right yup. 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:47.680 Because she's a. 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.360 Voter too, and this is going to affect her and 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.640 she may not be in my inner circle of people, 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.600 but I have to know how to communicate with her 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.600 because what happens to her is going to have an 0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.480 effect on me. So I have to educate her and 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.200 the best way I possibly can and inform her this 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.560 is what's going on. But in addition to that, I 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.520 also have the responsibility to give you the tool and say, 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.400 but if they got you messed up, for me to 0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.520 say something about it, right, I cannot make you feel 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:14.760 shackled to a vote. 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.080 That's not how it's words. Stuff feels slavery. 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.240 And here's the thing. So I want to go into 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:20.960 this because a lot of this is where when you 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.200 started talking about this part, because they probably missed your 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.520 whole Prop fifty part, which is the problem with the 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.400 sound by culture we live in. Right, we did a 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.800 whole thing on why it's so important to vote for 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.360 Prop fifty. What is Prop fifty Red Street? From the 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.000 official Voter's Guide from the Secretary of State's website. 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.200 We passed that, Yes, we passed that. Now we're in 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:39.440 the nuance. 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.440 Of what it takes for people to feel seen in 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.640 the process. So for those of you in the comments, 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.240 let me make something really clear to you. I've spent 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.600 my life's work doing this. I just spent my entire 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.720 summer and part of the spring, going to state after state, 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.040 city after city, listening to and hearing from people, not 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.479 talking to them about voting, but just asking them how 0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.840 they're doing, just asking them what they need and where 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:03.840 we kind of meet that. I think we mess up 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.480 right now. Ab is we will come at somebody and 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.080 be like, oh, what is somebody you doing? I need 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.520 you to go vote. We didn't ask them how they're doing. 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.040 We didn't ask them about their child who's incarcerated. We 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.280 didn't ask them about that student loan debt that they're carrying. 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.000 We didn't ask them about the food as if they're 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.640 living in We didn't ask them if they have clean 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:22.240 drinking water. And my argument is the only way to 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.520 grow the base, to grow the pull of voters is 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.520 to make sure that you're taking care of people's basic 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.000 needs and not bypassing them. When somebody has a disagreement 0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.320 or something that is worthy of a response, you don't 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.320 just say, oh, you just ignorant and your timing is off. 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.560 That's not what we do. I think that there's something different. 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.760 There's somebody in the comments right now saying we're bad 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.680 mouthing the governor. No, we do. We're asking the governor 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.360 to think tactically about what he's doing. If you need voters, 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.959 if you need to engage in the politics of addition 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.600 and multiplication, what you don't do is something that is 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.600 going to cause them to sit down right before a 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.560 critical election, the critical election for the other folks in 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.880 the there who are saying, well, who do you have? 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.960 If it's not Gavin, then who is it? Gavin is 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.040 not on the ballot, friends, So you want to be 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.319 the person engaged in educating the folks who you need 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.440 to get to the ballot box for Prop fifty And 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.840 you don't even know it's not a mid term You 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.040 don't even know that Gavin Newsom is not on the ballot. 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.640 You're telling me that we're doing the same thing that 0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:22.880 we did to Kamala Harris. 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:23.880 No ideaable. 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.279 What you don't know is that's a big sister to me. 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.560 I would never What you should be asking is what 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.400 Gavin was doing to Kamala Harris. Now we'll hold that 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.880 to November fifth. He was not right or died for Kamala. 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.480 So y'all out here caping for this man and this 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.760 man ain't on the ballot. Prop fifty's on the ballot. 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.000 Your voting rights are on the ballot, Your voter representation 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.640 are on the ballot. There's a case before the Supreme 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.920 Court right now where they're probably going to gut Section 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.400 two of the voting rights at we're the ones that 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.759 need to support. Barack Obama did a live yesterday with 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:05.640 and that's great. He should people should vote. Yes, I'm 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:09.640 Prop fifty. But let me tell you something. We partially 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.439 are in this mess because there are people y'all go 0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:19.320 google who who wanted independent redistricting commissions. So you should 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.440 go and look who those people are, because they're the 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.960 same people who probably thought that we were in a 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.000 post racial era, that we had overcome, that we no 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:31.240 longer needed affirmative action, that we probably would never get reparations. 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.880 They're probably the same people. I am not willing to 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.680 sacrifice black progress to make a white anybody feel good. 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.239 You're going to have to do us in the best 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.399 needs of my community if you want our votes. That's 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.759 how that works. But on this particular measure, he's not 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.279 on the ballot. You're on the ballot. Prop fifty is 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:55.919 about our voter representation, and guess what the reason why 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.560 it really doesn't matter is because Prop fifty and congressional 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.560 redition doesn't impact Gavin either. It impacts whether or not 0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.160 someone who looks like ab has a seat to actually 0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.400 run in. Do you understand, Like, let's be very clear 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.840 about what is on the table. So y'all want to 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.840 argue whether or not he's gonna be your next president, 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.640 that's up to y'all. Right, that's fine, but that election 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.480 is three long years away. Donald Trump has made us 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.520 feel like it's been one hundred years. We've been a 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:30.000 hundred years of slave baby, Like whoa and you want 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.120 I mean, we're not even on that yet. 0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.279 This is the longest twenty years on my life and 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.279 we ain't even a year. And yet you go on. 0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.160 He started on Martin Luther king Day and I had 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.200 a dream of a nightmare ever since, honey, Okay, I 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.680 can't wake up. Yeah, And then that's crazy. They really 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.439 can't understand. And this is so sad, Doug, I see 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:54.879 you in the comments. We're not bashing your governor. We're 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.280 asking You're asking me about timing. Ask your governor about 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.160 timy why he couldn't hold his veto at least to 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:02.840 the other side of this vote. If he was gonna 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.120 veto it. He shouldn't have been beatoing these bills anyway, 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.799 and then saying that, well, it's because it violates Prop. 0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:10.399 Two on nine. 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.240 Prop two on nine is an anti affirmative action measure 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.880 from the nineties. Whether or not you're the descendant of 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:21.560 an insulat person does not matter in Prop two or nine. 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.520 If your lawyers know how to argue the thing, right, 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.920 come on, counselor m hm. 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:28.360 So that's the point they saying it. 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.560 I'm blessing, so I'm gonna go here to be I 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:31.120 was passionate. 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:32.240 I wasn't trying to get cash. 0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:33.000 I know it. 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.120 No, it's okay to be passionate. 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:37.880 I know someone that come and says like, how do 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.920 we make it simpler to combat the GOP? Right? And 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.960 I think again, part of it is, this is us 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.040 simplifying it for you, right, This is us engaging in 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.600 the conversation and saying, okay, well somebody missed something somewhere, 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.560 so let's go back and let's talk about it. 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:53.839 Right. 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.239 Don't be mad at the eight students. 0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.400 Right when we come in trying to teach the A 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.040 medio class, right, we do our best. We got to 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.920 work together, right, And it's not to say that you 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.399 know people are dumb, but it's to say that you're 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.640 not as advancing the knowledge. And that'say, okay, we too 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.719 are learning how to recommunicate right to the environment that 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.320 we're in now to get y'all ready, get y'all civically 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.600 engaged in in client right. So you also have to 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.640 help us help you by being willing to do the 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.320 work and being willing to learn. And again that goes 0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.640 back to asking questions too, because during the election, all 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.520 I did was sit and talk to people, and I 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.600 got called slow, stupid, dumb and retarded so much that 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:34.960 I don't know what I'm talking about. 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.240 You don't understand. You don't live in the hood no more. 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.040 You elevated da dada, And I'm like, and I still 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.960 have family, I still have friends, I still got issues. 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:44.960 I ain't gonna job. 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.719 I just graduated law school, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.120 So I still have the same issues. So the reality 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.879 is that we doing our best to communicate, but we 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.680 cannot do the work that's supposed to be done right. 0:38:55.800 --> 0:39:00.120 We cannot speak up on behalf of the black community 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.160 just because some people may be confused then that mean 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:04.839 you need to nudge your neighbor and be like, did 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:05.239 you get it? 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:06.280 You got the notes? 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:07.239 You know what I'm saying. 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:07.960 You need some help. 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:09.800 Hey, I don't quite get it. 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.360 Let me ask the question before you start attacking people. 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.760 And then we can't get mad when you go attack 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.359 people and then you get attacked back. 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.839 I don't know about you, but don't look you come 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.719 at me. We're gonna tell for top. 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:23.799 You know what I mean. 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.960 This is a I think it's a learning experience for 0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.759 experience for all of us. But then also like we 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.560 need to stop being concerned about combattling with the GOP 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.320 because they full of crap and a lot of these 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:38.319 you know, Republicans, especially in the House, are maga Republicans. 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.160 They came in with Trump. They already believed that they 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.760 have already been sold on that idea and those ideas. 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:44.719 That is where they are. 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.680 We now have to reach to our youth right and 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.880 have these conversations and realize that we having this conversation 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.480 with youth and adults. So now we all have to 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:58.080 work together in community to communicate and teach each other 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.920 about how democracy works. And part of a democratic society 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.560 is to be able to say, yes, I'm passing my 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.840 vote for this, but I still need to let you 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:08.880 know you out of pocket. 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.640 Right when Martin Luther King Jr. It was him and 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.279 Lyndon Johnson, right, they was doing this. 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.239 They did this all the time. You ain't all the 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.279 way right. I don't agree with how you moving. Black 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.239 people need that right to buy vote. You need to 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.239 sign the vote in the right side, do X, Y 0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:30.880 and Z right. But you we're still calling out your racism. 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.040 We're still calling out. 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:32.800 Where you are wrong. 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:53.480 Right, both things. The blind s could be a blind spot. Yeah. 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.719 One of the things that I really appreciate about the 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.000 conversation we're having is like, how do how could if 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.480 we were advising Governor Newsom, what would we have said 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.080 to not have him in the crosshairs around timing that 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:06.920 y'all are trying to project on me. It's not my 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.920 timing issue. I reported out something he did just last week. 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:10.680 It's not last year. 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.280 It was last week again on my mother's eighty second birthday. Now, 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.520 what I want to say is this, we're both saying 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.839 we would have advised it. Bruh. If you're gonna make 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.200 your wrong decision, make that decision after the November fourth election. 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.640 But really you should reconsider some of the veto notes 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.840 that I'm reading through. When they veto a bill, governors 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.640 respond with their rationale for why in the bill about 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:40.279 the preferential consideration for descendants of enslaved people. He said, 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.160 they can already do that. I don't need to sign this. 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:49.319 This law is unnecessary. Just sign it because what it says, right, 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.320 what it says is that, like we have something a 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.080 ab I know you know this. In Congress when a 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:59.080 bill is submitted, sometimes they have something in the almost 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.439 like a preamble of the bill that's called a sense 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:06.319 of Congress. The sense of Congress establishes intention. Treat that 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.080 bill like intention, and just sign it into law, you know. 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.400 Just it's one of those things where you're like, I 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.719 want you to know the governor of this state is 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.719 in alignment with you on values because he goes in 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.759 some of these and he argues why his administration has 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.719 already done some of these things, if they've already been done, say, 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:24.680 these things. 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.600 Have already been done. But here's where we can continue 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.560 to make advances. Not a problem. 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.440 Again, for those of you who are joining late, we 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.600 are not arguing against Prop fifty, We are arguing yes 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:37.480 for Prop fifty, that responsibility belongs to the voters in California. 0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.080 But we're also saying that Governor Newsom can make some 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.040 different decisions to grow that base, to grow that. 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.040 Pull of voters, especially when we need them the most. 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.400 And I think that's just what it is, right, And 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.880 I think to the point of growing the base too. Again, 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.160 like we have to talk and we have to speak 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.560 up for that to be a thing. Right, if we 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.960 are silent and were like, no, we don't we don't 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:03.839 want to off tokaydle Right, we don't have a base, right, 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.320 we don't have a voice because. 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.360 They're gonna be like, oh, y'all stuff. 0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.600 They're not chipping off their stuff, so we're not chipping even, right, 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.320 And like you said, the blind spots if you don't 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.160 have people, which is why representation matters, which is why 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.560 Prop fifty is so important, which is why we are 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.080 stressing get out to vote, because if you don't have 0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.760 people who look like you, think like you, understand your history, 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.160 understand what you're going through, who have done the research, 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.920 who can and will communicate with you, you will not get represented. 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.160 And there will be a lot of blind spots, right, 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:38.080 and they will be intentional right, and some may just 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:41.120 be like, oh, you know, we dismissed it, but we 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.399 have to be aware that that is an issue too. 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.320 Yeah, let me go to this really quick, Sunshine and CALLI. 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:48.880 I believe you were dming. 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:49.200 Me as well. 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.320 You say, no one is disagreeing with what you're saying, Angela, 0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.719 with all due respect, the timing is the issue. We 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.719 love you and we thank you for all that you do. Sis, 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.759 I love you too. I want you to take a 0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:04.440 monk moment now and just say what timing is the issue? 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:09.840 Are you mad that my podcast talked about what Gavin 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.279 Newsom had done Monday on Thursday? Are you mad that 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.280 it was just posted yesterday? Are you mad at Gavin 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:21.080 Newsom for having vetoed these measures three weeks before a 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.880 critical vote, not one where he's on the ballot, but 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.080 where Prop fifty is on the ballot where we need 0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:29.680 to exercise our franchise to demonstrate our power. Who's timing? 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.759 Are you mad at? I think y'all are projecting that 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.920 on me because all I did was report out just 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:39.600 like any news outlet, anybody with an opinion on political matters, 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:44.000 would report out. Here's the you know what I'm saying, 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.640 Like they're talking about the timing if you said it 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.759 now or three years from now. I'm not gonna wait 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.880 three years for black people to get justice. I'm just 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:53.719 not gonna do that. 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.400 So I'm so sorry that you think that we have 0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:58.080 time to wait. 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:03.640 Maybe talk to Lamonica mc ivor and Fannie Williams and 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.000 Tis James. There is no time to wait. The more 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.920 that they dehumanize us any And this isn't just on 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.000 Gavin Newsommer of the State of California, this across the board, 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:14.840 across the board. 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:16.200 Yeah, these are. 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.359 Issues that we face for centuries in this country. Our 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:23.879 humanity has been questioned for centuries. So I can say, hey, 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.439 I am questioning your judgment here, and I can still say, 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.040 but over here you was a g Prop fifty is great, 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.480 but yes I'm Prop fifty. And also, you're not doing 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:37.960 my people like this over here, right, I'm not waiting 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.359 because our lives are on the line, Like right now 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.640 where you and I are talking, it's somebody that's just 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.319 realizing when this weekend comes, they're not about to get 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.480 their next pay check. TSA Workers have not been getting 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.400 a check since the end of September. Timing is everything, 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.680 and we have to move different. We have to be 0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.880 strategic in this moment when the federal government is saying, 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.880 if you do this, we're not checking for you. There 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.040 are a lot of governors, and you know, there's two 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.360 mayors who are saying, finally, just won't. 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.920 Get federal funds. In one of his veto knows. 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:09.759 He literally says he's not going to be able to 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.080 do this because this is for the californ and Dream 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.880 for All program, where there would have been ten percent 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.719 of the fund set aside for descendants and form of 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:25.040 enslaved people. He says here that they already made historic 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.080 investments to expand equitable access to home ownership, but he 0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:33.320 also says that expanding the program in this way could 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:38.080 jeopardize access to federal mortgage markets. Well, here's the thing. 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:43.120 This is the same federal government that has dismantled or 0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:49.160 decimated or defunded Civil Rights Division offices in every government agency. 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.279 We can't do what the government will approve because the 0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.520 government isn't doing what's needed for the people. This is 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.680 the same government that is willing to let healthcare premiums 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:04.799 rise two, three, four, even five times. We can't do 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.280 what what is gonna work for federal funding? 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:07.560 For me? 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.520 Spoke, we gotta do the right thing. 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.400 Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. 0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:14.880 Yeah. 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:20.680 If people's only issue is timing, then well then we're 0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:21.239 doing good. 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:26.479 I can agree on the substance we just don't agree 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:27.040 on when you raise. 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.040 I hear that, all right, then we're doing it. Okay. 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:31.200 You don't like when when it. 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.399 Got done, then you could be mad at Gavin Toode 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.759 for signing it right before this happened or not or. 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:41.279 Not signing it. Yeah, sorry, not signing this, you know. 0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:43.120 Excuse me? 0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:45.600 Yeah, so I mean I need to study. 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:49.239 If you still can't get federal funding, what we're gonna do. 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:54.080 And again, like the issues have to get get red 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:55.520 roads right, we have to. 0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:56.360 Talk about them. 0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.319 But if they follow you interpret what you said, we're 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.600 not doing anything that Gavenue is says. 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.040 Okay, so. 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.760 This is an interpretation issue and not a communication issue. 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.680 Right, understand what she's saying. She didn't even answer me. 0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.960 I'm tiring she didn't wrot up a new argument. I 0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:17.920 responded to seeing people in California, they follow you, interpret 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:21.440 what you said, as we're not doing anything that Gavin 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.920 Newsom says yes to, including Prop fifty. They didn't say that. 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.240 That's all I know about. 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.160 So I think we'll just tell him to say yes 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:30.959 for me at a B because me and AB said 0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:31.880 say yes to prophem. 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.920 Yes I'm Prop fifty, right, Yes, I'm Prop fifty. 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.080 And I think that they're gonna harm themselves. Gavin Newsom 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.240 is not going to be in a redrawing congressional district. 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:42.960 He's a governor. This isn't for Gavin Newsom. This is 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.279 for our political power, and he's termed out. 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:46.960 He's leaving next year. 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.520 He is termed out. Right, this is his last rodeo 0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:52.960 as governor. He got a little bit of time to 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.479 get his team together for whatever he decided he's gonna 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:56.160 do next. 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.400 Right, but he's turned out at this point. 0:48:58.640 --> 0:48:59.440 He is just a. 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.560 Face, right, and now we have to learn how to 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.799 separate the face from the proposition. 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.480 That's right, that's just what it is. 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:15.080 Prop fifty is about us as citizens, as American people, period. 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:19.480 Prop fifty is about us, about us having representation, about 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:24.040 us choosing our electors and not them choosing us. About 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:27.040 people who look like us, think like us, breathe like us, 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.200 talk like us, and been through what we've been through, 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:33.320 having an opportunity to go represent us in the federal government. 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.320 That is what Prop fifty is about. It. 0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:39.800 Don't gotten when when Gavin Newsom is long and damn gone, 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.799 Prop fifty gonna still be what it is. 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.280 Yeah, right, well. 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:46.360 Only until twenty thirty. 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:47.080 That's the other thing. 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.200 This is a TIARS thirty six, and so that's the next. 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:50.560 Thing I want to do. 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.879 Yeah, I was gonna say, because come twenty thirty, they're 0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.120 going to be going back to our commission. 0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.799 Right, we end up legislators don't have nothing to do. 0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.680 They're going back to looking at the senses, which is 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:06.239 when we were supposed to readraw lines anyway, But Republicans 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.760 decided to cheat because they know they can't win during 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.680 the twenty twenty six mid terms without cheating. You ain't 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.600 got to rig the game if you good, if you 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.200 know what you're doing, if you're balling the way you're 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:18.600 supposed to be bothering, you ain't got to inflate your ball. 0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:20.440 If your skills is. 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.560 On point, if the people agree with you and they 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.960 rocking with what you're saying, if you have as many 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.400 black people jumping over to the Republican bandwagon as you said, 0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:30.960 if you have as many black men jumping over, if 0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.319 you have as many Latino men and women jumping over 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:36.080 to your bandwagon as you said, and if the only 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.840 people voted for Democrats are as y'all say, illegals and criminals, 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.040 then you shouldn't have nothing to worry about. You had 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.560 everything in the world to worry about, which is. 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.040 Why they let off the gun. 0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.839 And every Republican state is trying to figure out where 0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:51.160 they can grab some more seats. 0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:52.200 You don't have to cheat. 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.239 If it's cool people have voted the way they wanted 0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.239 to vote. But a lot of these red states have 0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:01.000 been jerrymander and the reality is they are are undoing 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:05.400 the things that civil rights leaders y'all, granny's y'all auntie, 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:08.600 your great auntie, your great grandmother who marched. 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.799 And may have gotten beat right and may have. 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.680 Gotten ridiculed, may have lost their job, may have gotten threatened. 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.040 The people whose houses got burned down because they wanted. 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:17.840 The right to vote. 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.279 And now all we gotta do is show up and 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.120 mark yes on Prop fifty that have that opportunity and 0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:24.320 we're arguing. 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.040 About not criticizing some white man. 0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:27.840 That's the issue. 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:31.080 It's not about Timy, It's about where our minds are 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.799 at right now. We have to fight for ourselves. The 0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:37.799 white man ain't gonna save us, so he might have 0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:40.080 to get cussed out from time to time, whether we 0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.600 agree or disagree. They ain't got no problem telling us 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:43.600 how they feel about. 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.879 Us at no point in time. 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.560 Before a trial, after a trial, before an election, during 0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:52.800 the election, in the middle of an election where we 0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:55.080 ain't even thinking about an election, they do it at 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:57.399 all times. It is us who have to get out 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.520 of the mindset. We gotta be cool and shut the 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:01.560 job around Messa. 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:03.200 We not slaves no more. 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.279 But if we continue to think that like that, they 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:07.680 will have control over us and the way, we will 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:08.440 never come out of this. 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.719 So right about now, our focus is yes on Prop. 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.120 Fifty so that we continue to have our rights and 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.000 we continue to have an opportunity to fight. We cannot 0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.399 fight with our hands tied behind our back. They are 0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:24.600 dismantling devoting rights at They plan in our face every 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.719 which way. And we see here arguing about telling the 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:31.880 white man you out of line for some stuff that 0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:34.319 Ain't got nothing to do with him and everything to 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:36.080 do with us. 0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:39.680 I'm done well, I agree, and with that, the doors 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:40.680 of the church are open. 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:42.280 We began and we'll end. 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:45.319 This Instagram live There will also be available as a 0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.960 special episode of Native Lampid, a solo pod. Y'all have 0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.480 me working this week. I already did Tuesday, but AB 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.400 came through us and assists. I'm really troubled by some 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.960 of the things that I'm seeing, particularly just the division 0:52:57.000 --> 0:53:00.239 amongst our folks. I think that we can say vote yes. 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.040 I'm Prop fifty again. It's a bill that authorizes our 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:07.480 proposition that authorizes temporary changes to congressional district maps in 0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:11.759 response to texas As partisan redistricting efforts. It is a 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:16.040 legislative constitutional amendment. It requires an action by the voters. 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:19.319 And at the same time, we are requiring that those 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.719 who we pay, who are in elected office, who pay 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:24.600 them with our hard earned taxpayer dollars, that they also 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.560 are accountable to us. But they also taking a consideration 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.880 what we need for policy. And here's one more thing 0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:33.360 I'll just add, y'all, I want you to continue engaging 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:37.000 in this conversation. Don't play politics as a zero sum game. 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:40.439 You don't win that way. It's all about nuance, It's 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.799 all about what's in the gray. And it's important for 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:46.160 you to be educated throughout. When people are trying to 0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.480 educate you and you still find that their position is 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.320 different than yours or there's a slight disagreement or a 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:55.240 slight variation, you ain't got to call people out their names. 0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.279 You ain't got to disrespect people. You don't have to 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.960 come at people and start talking about out. You know, 0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.520 oh you sold out? Are you getting paid to do this? 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.120 Let me be clear for both of us. I'm gonna 0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.839 talk to talk about me and my sister here. Don't 0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:09.480 nobody pay us for our positions. 0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:11.920 Okay, we walk. 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:14.719 Up like this. Okay, we're very clear about who we are, 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.879 what we stand for, and we are going to collectively 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:21.440 work towards deliberation of our people at all times, especially 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:25.520 in these dangerous and unprecedented times. So yes, bo, Yes, 0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.239 I'm Prop fifty and that is the least you can do. 0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.520 I urge you to get involved. I urge you to 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:34.800 make demands. A shout out to state to the people. 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.040 We had a black papers policy project that was led 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:38.840 by David. 0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:41.879 Jermaine Johns, Doctor David Johns got. 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:44.960 Over one hundred policy experts to write more than thirty 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:48.080 five black papers. You can see what an agenda will 0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.480 look like when we come together. That then got pulled 0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:53.439 off in six weeks. We can do hard things. It's 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:56.319 our version of Project twenty twenty five, and it's one 0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:59.440 that advances the needle on our stuff because we have 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:02.920 every right to make demands of this government. We built 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.439 this thing. We're gonna make sure that we are seen, 0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.279 heard and protected by this thing, and if not, we're 0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:13.280 gonna build a new one. That's that on that Welcome home, y'all, 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.520 Love you, ad love you, thank you for having me, 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:20.080 Thank you, Sis, I'll take you care. Bye bye. Native 0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.280 Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with Reezon 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:27.200 Choice Media. 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