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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reezon Choice Media. Hello, everyone, we are just about to

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Speaker 1: get started. We have a really important conversation today was

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite commentators. This is a special edition

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Speaker 1: of Native Lampods, my solo pod. I'm Angela Rye and

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Speaker 1: we are going to go ahead. Shout out to Daniel

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Speaker 1: in the comments Welcome home. That is our official.

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Speaker 2: Song writer and rapper.

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Speaker 1: So I want to go ahead and get started with

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Speaker 1: Legally hype A B.

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Speaker 2: Tucker, who is.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite attorneys and someone who is absolutely

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Speaker 1: skilled and brilliant on the issues we're going to discuss today.

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Speaker 1: I stepped into it yesterday with some of y'all and

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Speaker 1: it's fine. We're gonna talk about where I'm wrong, where

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Speaker 1: I know I'm right, and I'm sure that Legally Hypo

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Speaker 1: have some things to add them, maybe a little different,

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Speaker 1: So we can go ahead and get started. Now. We

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Speaker 1: are talking Prop fifty, which is on the ballot in

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Speaker 1: California in this upcoming election on November fourth, and we're

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Speaker 1: also talking about you have a new sum So let's

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Speaker 1: get started. Hey, hey girl, Hey, how are you. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about this so y'a frames your glasses are so cute.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that in one of the

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Speaker 1: posts you put up the other day with a little

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Speaker 1: will go to yeah, you should have rocked it today.

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Speaker 1: Since everybody want to be a thug in.

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Speaker 3: My comments, I know, and I normally do when I

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Speaker 3: do my Prop fifty stuff.

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Speaker 2: You called me slipping a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Hank go hug you. Okay, Well, I want to do

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Speaker 1: this first because I think this is the most important thing.

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Speaker 1: Hearing the objections around timing, I want to start with

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Speaker 1: what's most important. The main thing right now is the

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Speaker 1: election that's coming up on November fourth. So I would

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Speaker 1: love for you to tell people in your labman's terms

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Speaker 1: and you gonna lay women's terms, what is Prop fifty and

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Speaker 1: why should California voters care and why should the rest

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Speaker 1: of the country be good allies?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean so, the way I've been framing it for

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Speaker 3: my audience is Prop fifty is basically our way to

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Speaker 3: buck up against racism in this country. Right, So you

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Speaker 3: have Republican led states, right, you got red states.

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Speaker 2: This what we're doing in California.

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Speaker 3: Is pretty much on the back of where Texas had

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Speaker 3: us messed up. They started redrawing their districts so that

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Speaker 3: they had the Republicans would have more political power in Congress,

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Speaker 3: right to a point where people didn't even know that

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Speaker 3: that's how representatives were chosen, like, oh, you could read

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Speaker 3: all the lines, yes, right, so they read draw them

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Speaker 3: so that black people and brown people would basically have

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't have the same type of representation when we

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Speaker 3: got to Congress. So what California said where Prop fifty

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Speaker 3: was like, okay, bet Texas, we got some for you.

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Speaker 2: You want to read.

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Speaker 3: All your lines, we can get our pencils and we

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Speaker 3: can redraw them too, but we're gonna one up you

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Speaker 3: we just gonna do what we want to do. We're

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Speaker 2: They went low, do you want to squabble up?

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Speaker 3: So went Prop fifty is basically California's way to squabble

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Speaker 1: Right now, did that make sense? That makes service sense

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Speaker 1: to me. It makes perfect sense to me. Now for

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Speaker 1: what the Secretary of State's official voter guide says or

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Speaker 1: So we're very clear that this is not just something

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Speaker 1: But yes, unquestionably vote yes on Prop fifty. For additional

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Speaker 1: information on Prop fifty, the guest voters, that's the only

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Speaker 1: information I'm willing to give you right now is at

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Speaker 1: Stop Election Rigging dot com. This is a ballot measure

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Speaker 1: that is being championed by Governor Gavin Newsom. It is

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Speaker 1: also a ballot measure that was passed and that's how

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Speaker 1: California State Legislature. So let's be very clear about that now.

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Speaker 1: This is where the trouble began, your friend. So yesterday,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I want to shout out our new

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Speaker 2: But our new social team is with all the smoke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they are captioning things in ways then you know,

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Speaker 1: It's a learning lesson. We're learning a pattern. And there

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Speaker 1: do have misinformation on what's going on in California, not

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Speaker 1: really clear about what happened with Gavin Newsom last week.

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Speaker 1: And the reparations measures that we're calling reparations measures that

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Speaker 1: so they're like, why you got to do this right now?

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Speaker 1: Why you messing with Gavin right And then the other

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, people are like, all right,

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Speaker 1: Because, like, first of all, if you a black girl

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Speaker 1: in America, we learned how to double dutch, that is

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Speaker 1: And I think that that is actually a great disservice

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Speaker 2: So here's my issue. I want to know why.

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Speaker 1: We cannot say we should vote yes on Prompt fifty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I agree, So I don't think that we're

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Speaker 3: They either learn how to walk and then learn how

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Speaker 3: What we're finding out is a lot of people are

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Speaker 3: check minded, right that Okay, well we're not explaining to people,

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Speaker 3: you know about Prop fifty. People are unable to separate

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Speaker 3: Prop fifty from Gavin Newsom, and there in lies the issue.

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Speaker 3: Why Because Gavin is the face and that's all people understand, right,

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Speaker 3: Gavin is the face of Prop fifty. Gavin is the governor. Right,

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Speaker 3: people don't understand it's levels to this. It's the whole

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Speaker 2: He andrew map the.

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Speaker 3: First Okay, I'm pretty sure he didn't sit in that meeting.

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Speaker 3: he is the face, right, all they see is two faces,

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Speaker 3: Chump and Gavin, two white boys duking it out. And

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Speaker 3: that's where we come here to educate and say, Gavin

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Speaker 3: is one thing. Gavin is the artist and Prop fifty

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You ain't really gotta like the artists. You ain't gotta

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Speaker 3: like everything they do, how they move, but that song

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Speaker 4: Right, So it's teaching people, look this this my gem

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Speaker 2: You gotta do that.

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Speaker 1: And so what my my urging would be, since you're

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Speaker 1: Make sure you know that right now is not the midterms, baby,

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Speaker 3: That's the whole purpose of the First Amendment is to

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Speaker 2: For something to turn for us.

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Speaker 3: We see everybody else getting loud and proud and ignorant

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Speaker 3: Black people don't like it and they disagree with it,

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Speaker 3: And I think that's I think that's it too, because

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Speaker 1: I think that he has been a formidable sparring partner

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Speaker 1: So what he did approve was a study. And this

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Speaker 1: And he said, nah, I'm good, I'm gonna take a study.

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Speaker 1: Bertie had a study. San Francisco did a study. People

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Speaker 1: Maybe they got reparations in Ebston, they got them in Charlottesville,

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Speaker 2: Happen in Tulsa.

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Speaker 1: It's not what we want, but it is something. So

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Speaker 1: We come into both.

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Speaker 2: We got to do both.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's see.

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Speaker 2: Who we got in here.

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Speaker 1: If you all are interested in raising a point, let's

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Speaker 1: the conversation, will likely be blocked from further speaking with

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Speaker 1: either of us. Make sure that you have factual information,

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Speaker 1: otherwise either one of us is liable to cut you off.

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Speaker 2: We can't even help it. It's the attorney innur.

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Speaker 1: The thing. We have to make sure that we are

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Speaker 1: having respectful factual discourse. Yes, it's prop fifty all day,

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Speaker 1: but we also want to hear that wherever you are,

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Speaker 1: you take care of black people. I take my nails

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Speaker 1: after that shut out so to get them paid.

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Speaker 3: Look you see, I got my hands down. Normally talk

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Speaker 3: on my hands, but yeah, you know, okay.

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Speaker 1: If you want to win in, make sure you send

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Speaker 1: it a request and I'm gonna put you in. There

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Speaker 1: were some people who had already requested. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they are still wanting to.

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Speaker 2: We do look k and eye glasses time. They said,

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Speaker 2: it's the glasses for me. We look at you and.

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Speaker 1: Our little friend jerious hijerious. Okay, So if anybody wants

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Speaker 1: to win in what have.

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Speaker 2: You, let's let me see.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 1: Let's see it's y'all they do. You know, I want

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Speaker 1: us to be great. We're gonna have to answer your

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Speaker 1: questions in the comments because for whatever reason, every time

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Speaker 1: I try to add another person to the chat, it

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Speaker 1: kicks off the entire life.

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Speaker 3: It's so frustrated. But attain like they watch it. We know,

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Speaker 3: not chopping to have you on the list. I'll put

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Speaker 3: the big wretch.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, but I you know, this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was in here just over and over again, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna acknowledge him.

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Speaker 2: So he feels seen. He's just like delete the post.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that kept coming up

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Speaker 1: to people, are like, well you said this, and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: See what you don't understand about me is I'm a

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Speaker 1: truth teller. No matter what, I'll tell the truth about

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Speaker 1: me and let you know, like, hey, I messed up.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who just came in, I said.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I do see as challenging

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Speaker 1: is I didn't love the name of the sticker that

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Speaker 1: was across our video from our social team. But it's fine.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was a betrayal. I think it's not.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not town and Mount to sitting at

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Speaker 1: home and not voting on Prop fifty. You should vote. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm Prop fifty. But they're different. They're different, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think that we should conflate the two issues. We

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Speaker 1: have an obligation to be accountab with the voting booth.

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Speaker 1: He has an obligation not to for sake, Black people

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Speaker 1: who have been the Democratic Party's base in every city,

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Speaker 1: in almost every city in most states throughout the Union.

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Speaker 1: And there's just an obligation.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If people have questions, we're gonna have to answer them

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 3: Yea son said, I'm new to politics. What do you

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Speaker 3: want me and other black men to do? Vote and

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Speaker 3: then talk to each other about it. And if you

494
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Speaker 3: don't understand it, find somebody you know, find a trusted source.

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Speaker 2: You know on this source you can follow me to get.

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Speaker 3: The information a way that you can understand it and

497
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Speaker 3: ask questions. That's one issue, like, don't be afraid to

498
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Speaker 3: ask questions, especially if you don't understand what's going on.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna help you more than anything. Because you don't

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Speaker 2: ask questions.

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Speaker 3: If you let somebody feed you a bunch of bullcraps,

502
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Speaker 3: at some point it's gonna start sounding good to you.

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Speaker 3: So make sure you ask questions and get clarity. But

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Speaker 3: vote yes on Prop fifty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, And if you're in California and.

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Speaker 3: You have a felony, you may it will be eligible

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Speaker 3: to vote as long as you are not inclustrated. So

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Speaker 3: just because you got a feeling, you don't mean you

509
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Speaker 3: don't need to go and cast your votes.

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Speaker 2: You should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. I love that, somebody said, And now

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to find it. They say, Oh, I'm from Oakland, California.

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Speaker 1: I've voted yes and mailed my ballot already. Good, tell

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Speaker 1: your mom and take your friends, make.

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Speaker 2: Sure that they all go vote.

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Speaker 1: Now here is this other issue. I think it's important.

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Speaker 1: I think that we should be able to criticize, to challenge,

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Speaker 1: to hold accountable our elected officials. We started talking about

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Speaker 1: that on the last live that just surprisingly and somehow

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Speaker 1: went out.

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Speaker 2: But I think that we've got to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to do both things, and part of that

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Speaker 1: is being really informed. So at the top of the

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Speaker 1: last live, we talked about what Prop fifty was. There's

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Speaker 1: somebody in here asking if they can vote for Prop

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Speaker 1: fifty even though you live in New Jersey. You can't

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Speaker 1: if you're not a California voter. But there should be

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Speaker 1: some version of it that comes out of New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: You all have an election.

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Speaker 1: If you're registered to vote in New Jersey, there's an

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Speaker 1: election that's very very important. It's your gubernatorial election. That is,

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Speaker 1: who is going to be the next governor of New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: That is very very important because it will dictate this

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Speaker 1: outcome and how New Jersey responds to this same thing

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Speaker 1: that California has responded to, which is this nationwide decimation

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Speaker 1: of black political power. What Donald Trump is doing, in

537
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Speaker 1: lockstep with Republican legislatures, with Republican governors, is trying to

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Speaker 1: prevent us from being able to exercise our franchise and

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Speaker 1: if we do, having to vote for people who don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily represent our best interests. So one of the things

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Speaker 1: that's super scary to me a B is being a

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Speaker 1: former executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus. They're talking

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Speaker 1: about the caucus could be shrunk its sixty two right now,

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Speaker 1: it should be sixty three, but Gray Abbott wanted to

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Speaker 1: wait until November four to fill So that's your turner

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Speaker 1: seat after he passed. May God rest his soul. But

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Speaker 1: what they're saying is we could end up with half

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Speaker 1: the size of the caucus. That we could end up

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Speaker 1: with only thirty somethings members of the caucus. That is devastating.

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Speaker 1: There were more than that when we were celebrating the

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Speaker 1: fortieth anniversary of the CVC when I was the ED.

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Speaker 1: So that's also very very very important for us to understands.

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Speaker 1: California is doing its part, but this isn't just on California,

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Speaker 1: this is itself.

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Speaker 2: The nation has a responsibility to respond.

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Speaker 3: Because we'll also lose our political capital, right and our

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Speaker 3: political seniority within the CVC right Congression of Black Caucus.

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Speaker 2: That's another major thing.

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Speaker 3: So when you talk about people sitting on these different committees,

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Speaker 3: in different committee assignments, you know, we got seniority in

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Speaker 3: those places, so we have voices in them, put in

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Speaker 3: those on those assignments. For a reason, these people would

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Speaker 3: love to put black folks in some RinkyDink assignment. And

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Speaker 3: not that none of them like they all matter, right,

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Speaker 3: but they would love to make sure we don't have

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Speaker 3: access to things like oversight, right, like they don't want

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Speaker 3: to send in those positions judicial whatever the you know,

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Speaker 3: they will do everything they can to keep us out

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Speaker 3: of there. And so again this affects everybody, but it's

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Speaker 3: separate again, voting.

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Speaker 2: For Prop fifty, voting in favor.

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Speaker 3: Of voting yes on Prop fifty is separate from criticizing

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Speaker 3: a politician, right, holding them accountables, hold an accountable here

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Speaker 3: that we should.

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Speaker 2: Also like reframe that like if so.

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Speaker 1: For example, ABA, you know this, counselor when you have employees,

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Speaker 1: somebody works for you and they're not doing they're not

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Speaker 1: performing as you want them to perform you want them.

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Speaker 1: You're saying, hey, you didn't turn in your weekly report

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Speaker 1: last week, and I need to know what you did.

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Speaker 1: You get the.

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Speaker 2: Information on what they did, and you're like, well what

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Speaker 2: was you doing? Us?

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Speaker 1: Asking people who work for us.

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Speaker 2: Who we pay with our taxpayer dollars is the same.

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Speaker 1: As reviewing your employee. How are they performing? Did they

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Speaker 1: meet the mark, did they meet the goal, did they

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Speaker 1: meet the deadline? Did they perform as you expected them

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Speaker 1: to perform? You laid out what you wanted. Now this

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Speaker 1: is the part where I think is on us. But

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Speaker 1: you lay out ideally what you want, and you judge

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Speaker 1: them based on whether or not they meet the needs,

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Speaker 1: the priorities, the objectives that you.

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Speaker 2: Laid out for them.

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Speaker 1: When they do not do that, you can hold them accountable.

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Speaker 1: You can challenge them in a meeting, you can challenge

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Speaker 1: them in a public forum, or you can challenge them

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Speaker 1: at the ballot box by not voting for them. Now,

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Speaker 1: the other thing that's been scary to me is the

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Speaker 1: number of people who thought that Gavin Newsom was up

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Speaker 1: for reelection, because that's not what we were talking about. Now,

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Speaker 1: to AB's earlier point, you might have been the face

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Speaker 1: of Prop fifty. He might have been the first one

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Speaker 1: to say I'm feeling froggy and I'm leap unless go Texas,

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Speaker 1: which was great, but like, he's not running for office

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Speaker 1: right now. He is telling us to find our voting

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Speaker 1: power and to recognize that, to realize that, to exercise

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Speaker 1: it by supporting Prop fifty. That is a different ball

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Speaker 1: of wax. Completely.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And I think that's where we need to separate,

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Speaker 3: right and we have to stop. I understand that people

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Speaker 3: are on different levels when it comes to their civic education,

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Speaker 3: but we don't learn if we don't speak up. And

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Speaker 3: in addition to that, this is the other thing. If

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Speaker 3: you have never said nothing, it would have been a

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Speaker 3: whole hooping negross.

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Speaker 2: Who would have been like.

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Speaker 1: People nothing out flouting right.

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Speaker 3: So then the one time, not saying that this is

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Speaker 3: the only time, but the one time were like, okay,

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Speaker 3: well this discacle, this is specifically for black people, and

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Speaker 3: we're speaking up people that you trust, you know, in

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Speaker 3: leadership positions.

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Speaker 2: Then spoke up and said so that now you're like.

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Speaker 1: But you should have said it, say tomorrow, next week, I.

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Speaker 3: Can tomorrow or just catch up, because if not, we're

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Speaker 3: going to continue to be left behind. And I think

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Speaker 3: this also puts it on us as leaders, us as communicators,

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Speaker 3: right those of us who understand what's happening to also

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Speaker 3: have those conversations. And I've been screaming this since the

632
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Speaker 3: Pop fifty stuff went down. We got to talk to

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Speaker 3: people who we don't necessarily always agree with or always

634
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Speaker 3: want to talk to, or who don't look like us.

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Speaker 2: We have to get outside of our circles.

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Speaker 3: My number one thing with Prop fifty, which is why

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Speaker 3: I always earn my goals when I do, we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about Prop fifty because I told them, folks, I want

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Speaker 3: to talk to the auntie who come outside with her

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Speaker 3: shower capone and her cigarette hanging out her mouth. She

641
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Speaker 3: got a three leg dog named Toto, and all she

642
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Speaker 3: wears flip flops right yup.

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Speaker 2: Because she's a.

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Speaker 3: Voter too, and this is going to affect her and

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Speaker 3: she may not be in my inner circle of people,

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Speaker 3: but I have to know how to communicate with her

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Speaker 3: because what happens to her is going to have an

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Speaker 3: effect on me. So I have to educate her and

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Speaker 3: the best way I possibly can and inform her this

650
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Speaker 3: is what's going on. But in addition to that, I

651
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Speaker 3: also have the responsibility to give you the tool and say,

652
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: but if they got you messed up, for me to

653
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Speaker 3: say something about it, right, I cannot make you feel

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Speaker 3: shackled to a vote.

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Speaker 2: That's not how it's words. Stuff feels slavery.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. So I want to go into

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Speaker 1: this because a lot of this is where when you

658
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Speaker 1: started talking about this part, because they probably missed your

659
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Speaker 1: whole Prop fifty part, which is the problem with the

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Speaker 1: sound by culture we live in. Right, we did a

661
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Speaker 1: whole thing on why it's so important to vote for

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Speaker 1: Prop fifty. What is Prop fifty Red Street? From the

663
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Speaker 1: official Voter's Guide from the Secretary of State's website.

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Speaker 2: We passed that, Yes, we passed that. Now we're in

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Speaker 2: the nuance.

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Speaker 1: Of what it takes for people to feel seen in

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Speaker 1: the process. So for those of you in the comments,

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Speaker 1: let me make something really clear to you. I've spent

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Speaker 1: my life's work doing this. I just spent my entire

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Speaker 1: summer and part of the spring, going to state after state,

671
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: city after city, listening to and hearing from people, not

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Speaker 1: talking to them about voting, but just asking them how

673
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: they're doing, just asking them what they need and where

674
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: we kind of meet that. I think we mess up

675
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: right now. Ab is we will come at somebody and

676
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh, what is somebody you doing? I need

677
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: you to go vote. We didn't ask them how they're doing.

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Speaker 1: We didn't ask them about their child who's incarcerated. We

679
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: didn't ask them about that student loan debt that they're carrying.

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Speaker 1: We didn't ask them about the food as if they're

681
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Speaker 1: living in We didn't ask them if they have clean

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Speaker 1: drinking water. And my argument is the only way to

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Speaker 1: grow the base, to grow the pull of voters is

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you're taking care of people's basic

685
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: needs and not bypassing them. When somebody has a disagreement

686
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Speaker 1: or something that is worthy of a response, you don't

687
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: just say, oh, you just ignorant and your timing is off.

688
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: That's not what we do. I think that there's something different.

689
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Speaker 1: There's somebody in the comments right now saying we're bad

690
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: mouthing the governor. No, we do. We're asking the governor

691
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Speaker 1: to think tactically about what he's doing. If you need voters,

692
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: if you need to engage in the politics of addition

693
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Speaker 1: and multiplication, what you don't do is something that is

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Speaker 1: going to cause them to sit down right before a

695
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Speaker 1: critical election, the critical election for the other folks in

696
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: the there who are saying, well, who do you have?

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00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: If it's not Gavin, then who is it? Gavin is

698
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: not on the ballot, friends, So you want to be

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Speaker 1: the person engaged in educating the folks who you need

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Speaker 1: to get to the ballot box for Prop fifty And

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Speaker 1: you don't even know it's not a mid term You

702
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: don't even know that Gavin Newsom is not on the ballot.

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00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: You're telling me that we're doing the same thing that

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Speaker 1: we did to Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: No ideaable.

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Speaker 1: What you don't know is that's a big sister to me.

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Speaker 1: I would never What you should be asking is what

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Speaker 1: Gavin was doing to Kamala Harris. Now we'll hold that

709
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Speaker 1: to November fifth. He was not right or died for Kamala.

710
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: So y'all out here caping for this man and this

711
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: man ain't on the ballot. Prop fifty's on the ballot.

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00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Your voting rights are on the ballot, Your voter representation

713
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: are on the ballot. There's a case before the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court right now where they're probably going to gut Section

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Speaker 1: two of the voting rights at we're the ones that

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Speaker 1: need to support. Barack Obama did a live yesterday with

717
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Speaker 1: and that's great. He should people should vote. Yes, I'm

718
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Speaker 1: Prop fifty. But let me tell you something. We partially

719
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: are in this mess because there are people y'all go

720
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: google who who wanted independent redistricting commissions. So you should

721
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: go and look who those people are, because they're the

722
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Speaker 1: same people who probably thought that we were in a

723
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Speaker 1: post racial era, that we had overcome, that we no

724
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Speaker 1: longer needed affirmative action, that we probably would never get reparations.

725
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: They're probably the same people. I am not willing to

726
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: sacrifice black progress to make a white anybody feel good.

727
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: You're going to have to do us in the best

728
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: needs of my community if you want our votes. That's

729
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: how that works. But on this particular measure, he's not

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Speaker 1: on the ballot. You're on the ballot. Prop fifty is

731
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Speaker 1: about our voter representation, and guess what the reason why

732
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Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter is because Prop fifty and congressional

733
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Speaker 1: redition doesn't impact Gavin either. It impacts whether or not

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00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: someone who looks like ab has a seat to actually

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Speaker 1: run in. Do you understand, Like, let's be very clear

736
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: about what is on the table. So y'all want to

737
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: argue whether or not he's gonna be your next president,

738
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Speaker 1: that's up to y'all. Right, that's fine, but that election

739
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: is three long years away. Donald Trump has made us

740
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: feel like it's been one hundred years. We've been a

741
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: hundred years of slave baby, Like whoa and you want

742
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're not even on that yet.

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Speaker 2: This is the longest twenty years on my life and

744
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: we ain't even a year. And yet you go on.

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Speaker 1: He started on Martin Luther king Day and I had

746
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: a dream of a nightmare ever since, honey, Okay, I

747
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: can't wake up. Yeah, And then that's crazy. They really

748
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: can't understand. And this is so sad, Doug, I see

749
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: you in the comments. We're not bashing your governor. We're

750
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Speaker 1: asking You're asking me about timing. Ask your governor about

751
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: timy why he couldn't hold his veto at least to

752
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: the other side of this vote. If he was gonna

753
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: veto it. He shouldn't have been beatoing these bills anyway,

754
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: and then saying that, well, it's because it violates Prop.

755
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: Two on nine.

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00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: Prop two on nine is an anti affirmative action measure

757
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: from the nineties. Whether or not you're the descendant of

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Speaker 1: an insulat person does not matter in Prop two or nine.

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Speaker 1: If your lawyers know how to argue the thing, right,

760
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: come on, counselor m hm.

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Speaker 2: So that's the point they saying it.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessing, so I'm gonna go here to be I

763
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Speaker 1: was passionate.

764
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Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to get cash.

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Speaker 1: I know it.

766
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Speaker 2: No, it's okay to be passionate.

767
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Speaker 3: I know someone that come and says like, how do

768
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Speaker 3: we make it simpler to combat the GOP? Right? And

769
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Speaker 3: I think again, part of it is, this is us

770
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Speaker 3: simplifying it for you, right, This is us engaging in

771
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: the conversation and saying, okay, well somebody missed something somewhere,

772
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Speaker 3: so let's go back and let's talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Don't be mad at the eight students.

775
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Speaker 3: Right when we come in trying to teach the A

776
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Speaker 3: medio class, right, we do our best. We got to

777
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: work together, right, And it's not to say that you

778
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: know people are dumb, but it's to say that you're

779
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: not as advancing the knowledge. And that'say, okay, we too

780
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Speaker 3: are learning how to recommunicate right to the environment that

781
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 3: we're in now to get y'all ready, get y'all civically

782
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Speaker 3: engaged in in client right. So you also have to

783
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Speaker 3: help us help you by being willing to do the

784
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Speaker 3: work and being willing to learn. And again that goes

785
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Speaker 3: back to asking questions too, because during the election, all

786
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: I did was sit and talk to people, and I

787
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: got called slow, stupid, dumb and retarded so much that

788
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Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm talking about.

789
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Speaker 2: You don't understand. You don't live in the hood no more.

790
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Speaker 3: You elevated da dada, And I'm like, and I still

791
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: have family, I still have friends, I still got issues.

792
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna job.

793
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: I just graduated law school, you know what I'm saying.

794
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: So I still have the same issues. So the reality

795
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 3: is that we doing our best to communicate, but we

796
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: cannot do the work that's supposed to be done right.

797
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: We cannot speak up on behalf of the black community

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00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: just because some people may be confused then that mean

799
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Speaker 3: you need to nudge your neighbor and be like, did

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00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: you get it?

801
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Speaker 1: You got the notes?

802
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

803
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: You need some help.

804
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't quite get it.

805
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: Let me ask the question before you start attacking people.

806
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 3: And then we can't get mad when you go attack

807
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: people and then you get attacked back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but don't look you come

809
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: at me. We're gonna tell for top.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: This is a I think it's a learning experience for

812
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: experience for all of us. But then also like we

813
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: need to stop being concerned about combattling with the GOP

814
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 3: because they full of crap and a lot of these

815
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: you know, Republicans, especially in the House, are maga Republicans.

816
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: They came in with Trump. They already believed that they

817
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: have already been sold on that idea and those ideas.

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Speaker 2: That is where they are.

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Speaker 3: We now have to reach to our youth right and

820
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Speaker 3: have these conversations and realize that we having this conversation

821
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Speaker 3: with youth and adults. So now we all have to

822
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Speaker 3: work together in community to communicate and teach each other

823
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Speaker 3: about how democracy works. And part of a democratic society

824
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Speaker 3: is to be able to say, yes, I'm passing my

825
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: vote for this, but I still need to let you

826
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Speaker 3: know you out of pocket.

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Speaker 2: Right when Martin Luther King Jr. It was him and

828
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Speaker 2: Lyndon Johnson, right, they was doing this.

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Speaker 3: They did this all the time. You ain't all the

830
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Speaker 3: way right. I don't agree with how you moving. Black

831
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Speaker 3: people need that right to buy vote. You need to

832
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Speaker 3: sign the vote in the right side, do X, Y

833
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Speaker 3: and Z right. But you we're still calling out your racism.

834
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Speaker 3: We're still calling out.

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Speaker 2: Where you are wrong.

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Speaker 1: Right, both things. The blind s could be a blind spot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I really appreciate about the

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Speaker 1: conversation we're having is like, how do how could if

839
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Speaker 1: we were advising Governor Newsom, what would we have said

840
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Speaker 1: to not have him in the crosshairs around timing that

841
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: y'all are trying to project on me. It's not my

842
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: timing issue. I reported out something he did just last week.

843
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: It's not last year.

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Speaker 1: It was last week again on my mother's eighty second birthday. Now,

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Speaker 1: what I want to say is this, we're both saying

846
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Speaker 1: we would have advised it. Bruh. If you're gonna make

847
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: your wrong decision, make that decision after the November fourth election.

848
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Speaker 1: But really you should reconsider some of the veto notes

849
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Speaker 1: that I'm reading through. When they veto a bill, governors

850
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: respond with their rationale for why in the bill about

851
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: the preferential consideration for descendants of enslaved people. He said,

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00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: they can already do that. I don't need to sign this.

853
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: This law is unnecessary. Just sign it because what it says, right,

854
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: what it says is that, like we have something a

855
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: ab I know you know this. In Congress when a

856
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: bill is submitted, sometimes they have something in the almost

857
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: like a preamble of the bill that's called a sense

858
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: of Congress. The sense of Congress establishes intention. Treat that

859
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: bill like intention, and just sign it into law, you know.

860
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: Just it's one of those things where you're like, I

861
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: want you to know the governor of this state is

862
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: in alignment with you on values because he goes in

863
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: some of these and he argues why his administration has

864
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: already done some of these things, if they've already been done, say,

865
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Speaker 1: these things.

866
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Speaker 2: Have already been done. But here's where we can continue

867
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Speaker 2: to make advances. Not a problem.

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Speaker 1: Again, for those of you who are joining late, we

869
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Speaker 1: are not arguing against Prop fifty, We are arguing yes

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Speaker 1: for Prop fifty, that responsibility belongs to the voters in California.

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00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: But we're also saying that Governor Newsom can make some

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00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: different decisions to grow that base, to grow that.

873
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: Pull of voters, especially when we need them the most.

874
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: And I think that's just what it is, right, And

875
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: I think to the point of growing the base too. Again,

876
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: like we have to talk and we have to speak

877
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: up for that to be a thing. Right, if we

878
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: are silent and were like, no, we don't we don't

879
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: want to off tokaydle Right, we don't have a base, right,

880
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: we don't have a voice because.

881
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: They're gonna be like, oh, y'all stuff.

882
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: They're not chipping off their stuff, so we're not chipping even, right,

883
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: And like you said, the blind spots if you don't

884
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: have people, which is why representation matters, which is why

885
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: Prop fifty is so important, which is why we are

886
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: stressing get out to vote, because if you don't have

887
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 3: people who look like you, think like you, understand your history,

888
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: understand what you're going through, who have done the research,

889
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: who can and will communicate with you, you will not get represented.

890
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: And there will be a lot of blind spots, right,

891
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: and they will be intentional right, and some may just

892
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: be like, oh, you know, we dismissed it, but we

893
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: have to be aware that that is an issue too.

894
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me go to this really quick, Sunshine and CALLI.

895
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: I believe you were dming.

896
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Me as well.

897
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: You say, no one is disagreeing with what you're saying, Angela,

898
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: with all due respect, the timing is the issue. We

899
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: love you and we thank you for all that you do. Sis,

900
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: I love you too. I want you to take a

901
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: monk moment now and just say what timing is the issue?

902
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: Are you mad that my podcast talked about what Gavin

903
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: Newsom had done Monday on Thursday? Are you mad that

904
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: it was just posted yesterday? Are you mad at Gavin

905
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: Newsom for having vetoed these measures three weeks before a

906
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: critical vote, not one where he's on the ballot, but

907
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: where Prop fifty is on the ballot where we need

908
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: to exercise our franchise to demonstrate our power. Who's timing?

909
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Are you mad at? I think y'all are projecting that

910
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: on me because all I did was report out just

911
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: like any news outlet, anybody with an opinion on political matters,

912
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: would report out. Here's the you know what I'm saying,

913
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: Like they're talking about the timing if you said it

914
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: now or three years from now. I'm not gonna wait

915
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: three years for black people to get justice. I'm just

916
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: not gonna do that.

917
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: So I'm so sorry that you think that we have

918
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: time to wait.

919
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Maybe talk to Lamonica mc ivor and Fannie Williams and

920
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: Tis James. There is no time to wait. The more

921
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: that they dehumanize us any And this isn't just on

922
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsommer of the State of California, this across the board,

923
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: across the board.

924
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are.

925
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: Issues that we face for centuries in this country. Our

926
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: humanity has been questioned for centuries. So I can say, hey,

927
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: I am questioning your judgment here, and I can still say,

928
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: but over here you was a g Prop fifty is great,

929
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: but yes I'm Prop fifty. And also, you're not doing

930
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: my people like this over here, right, I'm not waiting

931
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: because our lives are on the line, Like right now

932
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: where you and I are talking, it's somebody that's just

933
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: realizing when this weekend comes, they're not about to get

934
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: their next pay check. TSA Workers have not been getting

935
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: a check since the end of September. Timing is everything,

936
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: and we have to move different. We have to be

937
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: strategic in this moment when the federal government is saying,

938
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: if you do this, we're not checking for you. There

939
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: are a lot of governors, and you know, there's two

940
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: mayors who are saying, finally, just won't.

941
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: Get federal funds. In one of his veto knows.

942
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: He literally says he's not going to be able to

943
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: do this because this is for the californ and Dream

944
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: for All program, where there would have been ten percent

945
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: of the fund set aside for descendants and form of

946
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: enslaved people. He says here that they already made historic

947
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: investments to expand equitable access to home ownership, but he

948
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: also says that expanding the program in this way could

949
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: jeopardize access to federal mortgage markets. Well, here's the thing.

950
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: This is the same federal government that has dismantled or

951
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: decimated or defunded Civil Rights Division offices in every government agency.

952
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: We can't do what the government will approve because the

953
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: government isn't doing what's needed for the people. This is

954
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the same government that is willing to let healthcare premiums

955
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: rise two, three, four, even five times. We can't do

956
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: what what is gonna work for federal funding?

957
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: For me?

958
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: Spoke, we gotta do the right thing.

959
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

960
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

961
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: If people's only issue is timing, then well then we're

962
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: doing good.

963
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 1: I can agree on the substance we just don't agree

964
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: on when you raise.

965
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: I hear that, all right, then we're doing it. Okay.

966
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: You don't like when when it.

967
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 3: Got done, then you could be mad at Gavin Toode

968
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: for signing it right before this happened or not or.

969
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: Not signing it. Yeah, sorry, not signing this, you know.

970
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: Excuse me?

971
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean I need to study.

972
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: If you still can't get federal funding, what we're gonna do.

973
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: And again, like the issues have to get get red

974
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: roads right, we have to.

975
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: Talk about them.

976
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: But if they follow you interpret what you said, we're

977
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: not doing anything that Gavenue is says.

978
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so.

979
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: This is an interpretation issue and not a communication issue.

980
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: Right, understand what she's saying. She didn't even answer me.

981
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm tiring she didn't wrot up a new argument. I

982
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: responded to seeing people in California, they follow you, interpret

983
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: what you said, as we're not doing anything that Gavin

984
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: Newsom says yes to, including Prop fifty. They didn't say that.

985
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: That's all I know about.

986
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: So I think we'll just tell him to say yes

987
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: for me at a B because me and AB said

988
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: say yes to prophem.

989
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: Yes I'm Prop fifty, right, Yes, I'm Prop fifty.

990
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: And I think that they're gonna harm themselves. Gavin Newsom

991
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: is not going to be in a redrawing congressional district.

992
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: He's a governor. This isn't for Gavin Newsom. This is

993
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: for our political power, and he's termed out.

994
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: He's leaving next year.

995
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: He is termed out. Right, this is his last rodeo

996
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: as governor. He got a little bit of time to

997
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 3: get his team together for whatever he decided he's gonna

998
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: do next.

999
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: Right, but he's turned out at this point.

1000
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: He is just a.

1001
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: Face, right, and now we have to learn how to

1002
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: separate the face from the proposition.

1003
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: That's right, that's just what it is.

1004
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: Prop fifty is about us as citizens, as American people, period.

1005
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: Prop fifty is about us, about us having representation, about

1006
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: us choosing our electors and not them choosing us. About

1007
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: people who look like us, think like us, breathe like us,

1008
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: talk like us, and been through what we've been through,

1009
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 3: having an opportunity to go represent us in the federal government.

1010
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: That is what Prop fifty is about. It.

1011
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: Don't gotten when when Gavin Newsom is long and damn gone,

1012
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 3: Prop fifty gonna still be what it is.

1013
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well.

1014
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: Only until twenty thirty.

1015
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: That's the other thing.

1016
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: This is a TIARS thirty six, and so that's the next.

1017
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Thing I want to do.

1018
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, because come twenty thirty, they're

1019
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: going to be going back to our commission.

1020
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: Right, we end up legislators don't have nothing to do.

1021
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: They're going back to looking at the senses, which is

1022
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: when we were supposed to readraw lines anyway, But Republicans

1023
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 3: decided to cheat because they know they can't win during

1024
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six mid terms without cheating. You ain't

1025
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: got to rig the game if you good, if you

1026
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: know what you're doing, if you're balling the way you're

1027
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: supposed to be bothering, you ain't got to inflate your ball.

1028
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: If your skills is.

1029
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: On point, if the people agree with you and they

1030
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: rocking with what you're saying, if you have as many

1031
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: black people jumping over to the Republican bandwagon as you said,

1032
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: if you have as many black men jumping over, if

1033
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: you have as many Latino men and women jumping over

1034
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: to your bandwagon as you said, and if the only

1035
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: people voted for Democrats are as y'all say, illegals and criminals,

1036
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: then you shouldn't have nothing to worry about. You had

1037
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: everything in the world to worry about, which is.

1038
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: Why they let off the gun.

1039
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 3: And every Republican state is trying to figure out where

1040
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: they can grab some more seats.

1041
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: You don't have to cheat.

1042
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: If it's cool people have voted the way they wanted

1043
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: to vote. But a lot of these red states have

1044
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: been jerrymander and the reality is they are are undoing

1045
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 3: the things that civil rights leaders y'all, granny's y'all auntie,

1046
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: your great auntie, your great grandmother who marched.

1047
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: And may have gotten beat right and may have.

1048
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: Gotten ridiculed, may have lost their job, may have gotten threatened.

1049
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: The people whose houses got burned down because they wanted.

1050
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: The right to vote.

1051
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: And now all we gotta do is show up and

1052
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: mark yes on Prop fifty that have that opportunity and

1053
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: we're arguing.

1054
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: About not criticizing some white man.

1055
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: That's the issue.

1056
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: It's not about Timy, It's about where our minds are

1057
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 3: at right now. We have to fight for ourselves. The

1058
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: white man ain't gonna save us, so he might have

1059
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: to get cussed out from time to time, whether we

1060
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: agree or disagree. They ain't got no problem telling us

1061
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: how they feel about.

1062
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 2: Us at no point in time.

1063
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: Before a trial, after a trial, before an election, during

1064
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: the election, in the middle of an election where we

1065
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: ain't even thinking about an election, they do it at

1066
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 3: all times. It is us who have to get out

1067
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: of the mindset. We gotta be cool and shut the

1068
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: job around Messa.

1069
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: We not slaves no more.

1070
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: But if we continue to think that like that, they

1071
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: will have control over us and the way, we will

1072
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: never come out of this.

1073
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: So right about now, our focus is yes on Prop.

1074
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: Fifty so that we continue to have our rights and

1075
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: we continue to have an opportunity to fight. We cannot

1076
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: fight with our hands tied behind our back. They are

1077
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: dismantling devoting rights at They plan in our face every

1078
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: which way. And we see here arguing about telling the

1079
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: white man you out of line for some stuff that

1080
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: Ain't got nothing to do with him and everything to

1081
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: do with us.

1082
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm done well, I agree, and with that, the doors

1083
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: of the church are open.

1084
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: We began and we'll end.

1085
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: This Instagram live There will also be available as a

1086
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: special episode of Native Lampid, a solo pod. Y'all have

1087
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: me working this week. I already did Tuesday, but AB

1088
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: came through us and assists. I'm really troubled by some

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Speaker 1: of the things that I'm seeing, particularly just the division

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Speaker 1: amongst our folks. I think that we can say vote yes.

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Speaker 1: I'm Prop fifty again. It's a bill that authorizes our

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Speaker 1: proposition that authorizes temporary changes to congressional district maps in

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Speaker 1: response to texas As partisan redistricting efforts. It is a

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Speaker 1: legislative constitutional amendment. It requires an action by the voters.

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Speaker 1: And at the same time, we are requiring that those

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Speaker 1: who we pay, who are in elected office, who pay

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Speaker 1: them with our hard earned taxpayer dollars, that they also

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Speaker 1: are accountable to us. But they also taking a consideration

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Speaker 1: what we need for policy. And here's one more thing

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Speaker 1: I'll just add, y'all, I want you to continue engaging

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Speaker 1: in this conversation. Don't play politics as a zero sum game.

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Speaker 1: You don't win that way. It's all about nuance, It's

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Speaker 1: all about what's in the gray. And it's important for

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Speaker 1: you to be educated throughout. When people are trying to

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Speaker 1: educate you and you still find that their position is

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Speaker 1: different than yours or there's a slight disagreement or a

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Speaker 1: slight variation, you ain't got to call people out their names.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got to disrespect people. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: come at people and start talking about out. You know,

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Speaker 1: oh you sold out? Are you getting paid to do this?

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Speaker 1: Let me be clear for both of us. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to talk about me and my sister here. Don't

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Speaker 1: nobody pay us for our positions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we walk.

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Speaker 1: Up like this. Okay, we're very clear about who we are,

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Speaker 1: what we stand for, and we are going to collectively

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Speaker 1: work towards deliberation of our people at all times, especially

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Speaker 1: in these dangerous and unprecedented times. So yes, bo, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm Prop fifty and that is the least you can do.

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Speaker 1: I urge you to get involved. I urge you to

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Speaker 1: make demands. A shout out to state to the people.

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Speaker 1: We had a black papers policy project that was led

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Speaker 1: by David.

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Speaker 2: Jermaine Johns, Doctor David Johns got.

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Speaker 1: Over one hundred policy experts to write more than thirty

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Speaker 1: five black papers. You can see what an agenda will

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Speaker 1: look like when we come together. That then got pulled

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Speaker 1: off in six weeks. We can do hard things. It's

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Speaker 1: our version of Project twenty twenty five, and it's one

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Speaker 1: that advances the needle on our stuff because we have

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Speaker 1: every right to make demands of this government. We built

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Speaker 1: this thing. We're gonna make sure that we are seen,

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Speaker 1: heard and protected by this thing, and if not, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna build a new one. That's that on that Welcome home, y'all,

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Speaker 1: Love you, ad love you, thank you for having me,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sis, I'll take you care. Bye bye. Native

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