1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: and we've got a lot to talk about on the 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: show today, including some breaking news on Hunter Biden, also 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: this big rail vote. But even more shocking than that 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: is the fact that Senator Cruz apparently, and we're gonna 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: confirm this fist bumped with Bernie, says I before I 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: deal with Hunter Biden. Senator, I just seem to know 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: this really happened. This wasn't fake news on the internet. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: It is true and accurate. Bernie and I fist bumped 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: on the floor of the Senate today. And if it 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: rapture alert. If you're not right with the Lord, get 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: right with the Lord, because when things like this happened, 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: you never know what could happen next. We're gonna deal 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: with that vote in a moment. But Senator, there's some 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: fireworks that happened this week and it has been spreading, 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: and that is you asking questions, some pretty tough questions 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: in a Senate confirmation hearing that dealt with the issue 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: of Hunter Biden. Now before I play this clip of 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: it's questioning set the stage for everybody to understand what 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: this was about, and this confirmation and why it mattered 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: and it was relevant to bring up Hunter Biden. Well, 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: this was in a hearing for the Senate Foreign Relations 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Committee this week, and in particular, I was questioning an 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: individual named George Kent, who was a State Department employee, 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: and he was a senior State Department official that handled 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: things concerning Ukraine. He's been now nominated by Joe Biden 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: to be the ambassador to Estonia. So he was having 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: his confirmation hearing. And you may remember George Kenty. He 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: wears a bow tie and he was one of the 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Democrats star witnesses in the impeachment of Donald Trump, and 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: he had all sorts of bad things to say about Trump. 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: But he also said in front of the House and 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: sworn testimony that he had raised with the Biden and 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: the Obama White House concerns about Hunter Biden's being on 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the board of Barisma, and that that the Office of 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: the Vice President blown him off and said, we don't 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: have time to deal with this, And so I questioned him. 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I had a posterboard behind me with a picture of 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: his sworn testimony saying that he had told the White 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: House that it raised the appearance of conflict of interest, 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: and so I questioned to begin under oath on that. 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: And one of the things he was saying was, well, 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: Biden didn't do anything to benefit the corrupt oligarch who 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: had who was paying Hunter Biden a million bucks a year, 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: and that's just not true, and so I questioned about that. 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: I want to play this and one of the things 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: that you're going to play is one of my favorite 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: pieces of audio that just shows not just the corruption 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: of the Biden crime family, but the arrogance of the 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: Vice president at the time, where he was basically saying 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: to the Ukraine, unless you get rid of the prosecutor 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: that's investigating this that coming that my son's on, you're 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: not getting any money from the United States of America. 54 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: You read that quote when when Biden was had left 55 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: the vice presidency and was literally bragging about how much 56 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: power he had to get this done. Here is that 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: back and forth and then the Democrat shutting you down. 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: It's interesting someone who disagrees with you, mister Kent is 59 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And I want to read from what he 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: said on January twenty, twenty eighteen at the Council of 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Foreign Relations. Quote this is Joe Biden speaking, and I 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: went over, I guess the twelve thirteenth time to Kiev, 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: and I was supposed to announce that there was another 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: billion dollar loan guarantee. And I'd gotten a commitment from 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Porschenko and yet Yatsenyuk that they would take action against 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the state prosecutor, the prosecutor that was investigating Barisma, and 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: they didn't. So Biden continues, I said, no, I'm not 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: going to We're not going to give you the billion dollars. 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: They said, you have no authority, you're not the president. 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: The president said, I said, call him. I said, I'm 71 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars. I said, 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: you're not getting the billion dollars. I'm gonna be leaving here. 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: And I think it was about six hours. I looked 74 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: at them and said, I'm leaving here in six hours. 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money. Well, 76 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: son of a bitch, he got fired. Let me ask 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: you something. Do you think Joe Biden holding a billion 78 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: dollars hostage to force the Ukrainian government to fire the 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: prosecutor that is investigating the corrupt oligarch who's paying his 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: son a million dollars a year. Did getting that prosecutor 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: fired benefit that oligarch? Thank you, Senator Cruz. Senator Van 82 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: are you going to allowhim to answer the question, Madam Chairman, 83 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: I am not going to allow him to answer the question. 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: And why are you covering for the vice president? Do 85 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: you not want to answer that question? He said that 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: the vice president, I think the benefit. I think it's 87 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: unfortunate for you, Senator Cruz, to put in position that 88 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: are uncomfortable the nominees to be our ambassador. This is 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: because testimony sort testimony. I understand that president that he 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: is going to raise those concerns anytime. Was his testimony 91 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: crew or false? Biden did nothing to benefit the oligarch. 92 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I want to answer the question, why are you afraid 93 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: of him answering the question? I'm not. I just want 94 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: to move on. But you won't let him answer. I asked, yes, 95 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: no question. Will you allow him to answer the yes 96 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: no question? Yes, you can answer yes or no. Thank you. 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: The prosecutor who was fired by the Ukrainian Parliament did 98 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: nothing to investigate Slatchevsky and everything the Vice President, Biden, 99 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: the State Department, and the US embassy did acted in 100 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: good faith to reduce corruption and help the Ukrainian so 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: firing him did not benefit the old Thank you, Senator Cruz, 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: Senator van hollend I was shocked by how fast they 103 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: decided to go past you on that one has that 104 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: happened to you very often? I mean, how does these 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: rule work for people that don't understand the rules? Okay, 106 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: So the person sharing the hearing was Jeane Sheheen as 107 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: a Democrat senator from New Hampshire, and she realized that 108 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: the question I asked was a real problem because it 109 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: showed real corruption on the part of Joe Biden, so 110 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: she didn't want him to answer. But this is where 111 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: the Democrats, frankly, they're just not very good at this. 112 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: They're not very good at being chairman because they're so 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: obviously scared of it that it is very unusual. It 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: pretty much never happens that if you ask a witness 115 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: a question, a chairman in the Senate won't won't let 116 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: the witness answer. But she didn't want the answer, and 117 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I guess she thinks that I'm just going to roll 118 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: over and meekly go Okay, I don't want an answer 119 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: to my question. But it's like, no, you are transparently 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: covering up for Joe Biden, and it's obvious to anyone watching. 121 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: And you know the kind of way she stammers, well, well, 122 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: well you're making the witness feel uncomfortable. Well you know what, 123 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: that's actually what you're supposed to do when you're questioning 124 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: someone for a confirmation hearing. And when she finally gave 125 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: in and realized how obvious it was that she was 126 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: trying to cover up for a Joe Biden, she said, 127 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: all right, you can answer. He gives the smarmiest, most 128 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: dishonest answer. He makes perfectly clear that he is nothing 129 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: but a partisan hack when he's like, oh, the prosecutor 130 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: that was investing in the getting the oligarch wasn't actually 131 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: investigating the oligarch. That's not true, and Joe Biden only 132 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: wanted good government. Really, then why did his son get 133 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: a million bucks a year when he didn't know a 134 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: damn thing about oil and gas and he couldn't speak Ukrainian. 135 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: He was there for one reason, which was to get 136 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden to get the prosecutor fired, and it was 137 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: a good investment. That oligarch is glad he paid Hunter 138 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Biden that money and Jean Shaheen they don't want the 139 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: American people to know about it. I also think it's 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: important that people understand this ambassadorship right now is probably 141 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: more important than it's been in a long time because 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: it's right there and aston yet dealing with that's going 143 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: on in Ukraine, dealing which has happened Russia. This matters 144 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: right now. That's one of the other reasons why this, 145 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: the question you asked, was so important. Well, and I 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: will say his answer, look Kent as someone who there 147 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: are a whole bunch of State Department bureaucrats who liked 148 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: to hold themselves out as nonpartisan and just principled public servants. 149 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Well his answer, and by the way, he did actually 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: demonstrate some courage what Obama was president, and that he 151 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: raised the issue with the White House and said, hey, 152 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm worried about this, but now he's decided he hates 153 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And so everything Joe Biden did was honorable. 154 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Never mind what he said and sword testimony before the 155 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: House of Representatives. Now he just speaks like he's Korean 156 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: John Pierre giving the Democratic talking points, and I think 157 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: it illustrates that he's a partisan and he's not bothering 158 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: to hide it anymore. One of the perks of her 159 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: doing what she did was now everyone's talking about this story. 160 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: It's gone viral on social media. It would not have 161 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: gone viral if there would have just been a normal 162 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: exchange between you and the nominee. 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Senator, 186 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: you had this vote, and we did our last podcast 187 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: talking about this rail vote, and thing changed in this vote. 188 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: The Senate voted to impose this rail contract. It reject 189 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: the measures granting workers seven paid six days for example. 190 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: This was a contentious vote that passed this resolution posing 191 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: a contract on the freight rail workers. This was a 192 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: big life from the beginning from this administration. They said 193 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: we were never going to get to this point. Everything 194 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: was figured out before the election. Then after the mid 195 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: terms they are like, just kidding. We may have a 196 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: major strike which would be catastrophic to our economy and 197 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: to shipping and everything else that we deal with on 198 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: the rail system. Here now this vote happened. Explain your 199 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: vote and how it's possible that you and Bernie Sanders 200 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: were in essence on the same side of this. Yeah, 201 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: so we had today three different votes on the rail issue, 202 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: and we talked about this in the last POT podcast. 203 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: But what happened is the freight rail companies had been 204 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: in negotiations with their unions for many months and they 205 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: reached an in pass and it went to a Presidential 206 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: advisory Board, which which is allowed understatute, and the Presidential 207 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Advisory Board made a recommendation, and then that recommendation was 208 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: was sent before the unions and of the twelve different unions, 209 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: four of them voted it down. But those four actually 210 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: represent more than half the rail workers in America, so 211 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: it's so it's it's a majority of the rail workers 212 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,239 Speaker 1: voted no, and they didn't want it and their principal 213 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: area of disagreement. So so the deal had some things 214 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: they liked. So it had a twenty four percent pay 215 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: increase over five years. Now, I would note that sounds 216 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: great until you remember that we're having eight percent inflation 217 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: each year under Joe Biden, and that means over five 218 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: years compounded, you're looking at about forty to fifty percent 219 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: inflation to twenty four percent wage increase. That's about half 220 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: of the inflation under Biden. Doesn't sound nearly that good 221 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: when you when you realize what Biden's done to the 222 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: economy generally. But what the workers in particular were upset 223 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: about was sick leave. That that they did not have 224 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: any policy in place where they could get sick leave 225 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: if they got sick. And in particular, if you wanted 226 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: sick leave, you have to put in several days in advance, 227 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: and the problem is you often don't know if you're 228 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: going to be sick several days in advance. You know, 229 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of strange to say, hey, I'm planning 230 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: on having the flu a week from Wednesday, Like like, 231 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: that's not how people, that's not how it's right. So 232 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: now look, the railroads say, well, we've got to run 233 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: a railroad. We got to know what's going on, and 234 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: so it's easier for us logistically if even if you're sick, 235 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: you got to come in. And the workers understandably don't 236 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: like that. Um so more than half of the workers 237 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: voted down the deal. What happened, Well, Joe Biden before 238 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: the election, and you pointed it out this just a 239 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: second ago, had told the American people. This issue has resolved. 240 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Everyone's agreed, we fixed it. We now know that was 241 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: a lie. What he did was kick it down down 242 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: the road a couple of weeks to get it past 243 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: election day, and then we were headed to in days 244 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: a nationwide rail strike, which would have a catastrophic impact 245 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: on the economy. The cost of the economy is over 246 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: two billion dollars a day from a rail strike. It's 247 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: actually two point eight billion, close to three billion a day. 248 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: And so what the Biden White House decided to do 249 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: was essentially tell the union workers, go pound sand. We 250 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: don't care that you want this. Biden asked Congress to 251 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: pass legislation ratifying the tentative agreement that had been put 252 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: before the workers that the workers had voted down, and 253 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats, because they are more concerned about being partisan 254 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: than actually about standing up for the workers, decided to 255 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: support Biden in that in that effort. Now we had 256 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: three votes today on this. The first one was a 257 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: vote to delay everything for sixty days and to extend 258 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: what's called the cooling off period for sixty days. And 259 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Congress ought to be deciding this. I 260 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: think negotiations between labor and management ought to be between 261 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: labor and management, and they should work it out, and 262 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: if they've reached it in past, they should go back 263 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: to the bargaining table and try to work it out. 264 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: And so I thought a sixty day cooling off period 265 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: for them to continue to negotiate made an awful lot 266 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: of sense. Let them figure out the right answer to that. Unfortunately, 267 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: the White House whipped against it, and that failed. So 268 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: the Senate decided, we're not going to have a sixty 269 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: day cooling off period. We're going to vote right now. Well, 270 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: what's the reasoning behind that? The White House? I mean, 271 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: you would think they would have wanted to make in 272 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: theory union workers happy. That would have made I would 273 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: assume some union workers happy that sixty day period. What 274 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: was the reason behind the White House saying, now, screw 275 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: the work, that's when we're going to stick with the 276 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: big guys in the big companies. You know, I don't 277 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: really know that. They didn't articulate themselves, they didn't explain themselves. 278 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: I think it was just a question of power, which 279 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: is when Democrats address union workers, they tend to think 280 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: almost exclusively in terms of union bosses, and the union 281 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: bosses are typically hardcore Democrat partisans who are writing all 282 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: the checks to the Democrats, and so Biden and the 283 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: White House think if the union bosses happy, I'm happy. 284 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: In this instance, what happened, the union bosses had had 285 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: negotiated this deal, It was the members who were unhappy. 286 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: It was the members. When they put the deal before 287 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: the members, the members voted it down. And remember, today's 288 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Democrats routinely put policies in place that hurt union members. 289 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: When when Joe Biden the first day in office, canceled 290 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: the Keystone Pipeline, he eliminated eleven thousand high paying jobs, 291 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: including eight thousand union jobs the stroke of a pen. 292 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: The Democrats don't really give a damn about the union 293 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: workers as long as the union bosses are on board. 294 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: I think they believe in just power rather than actually 295 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: caring about the lives of the workers. Well, what you 296 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: and I talked about beforehand is I didn't think Congress 297 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: should be in this business. And actually when we talked 298 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: about it beforehand, you said, well, do you intend to 299 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: vote for Bernie Sanders had a provision to give the 300 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: workers seven day sick leave, and last pat podcast, I 301 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: said no, I wasn't planning to vote for that, and 302 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: the reason was, if you just put that up alone 303 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: on the floor, I'd vote against it because I don't 304 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: think Congress ought to be deciding this. I think we 305 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: ought to have labor and management negotiated and reach an 306 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: agreement between the two of them. Well, once the Senate 307 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: voted down my amendment with Dan Sullivan to delay everything 308 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: sixty days, it became abundantly clear that the Senate was 309 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: going to vote for the White House and Management deal. 310 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: They were just going to say, to hell with the workers. 311 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: We're throwing out what the workers want and we're going 312 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: to force this deal on them. They were just going 313 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: to screw the union members. Once it was clear we 314 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: were going to do that. Then when we were voting 315 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: on the sick leave, listen, I think the request to 316 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: have seven days sick leave over the course of a 317 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: year is a very reasonable request. Um. I didn't think 318 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: the unions were being unreasonable, and given a choice between 319 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: the Senate cramming down a deal that that that benefited 320 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: one side, or being more fair and reflecting the union 321 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: workers reasonable request, I voted for the sick leave. Uh. 322 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: That was Bernie Sanders's amendment, So I supported Bernie in 323 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: that and there were totals of six Republicans voted that way, 324 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: so most most Republicans voted on the other side. But 325 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: but I was, I was, I was proud to stand 326 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: with with with the union workers. Wait, what precedent does 327 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: this set moving forward? Knowing now? And I'm talking about 328 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: from a union perspective, because this could be, in my opinion, 329 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: a civil war brewing that they didn't see coming. If 330 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: if if the Democratic Party is the party of unions, right, 331 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: and that's what they always say. I mean, we saw 332 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: this as a big issue in Michigan and the governor's 333 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: race there. We saw this in Virginia. We've seen this 334 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: in other places like that. But this was a big 335 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: quote union moment, and the White House said to the unions, Uh, 336 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: screw you, guys, We're gonna We're gonna go with with 337 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: your employer, not with you. I think this could be 338 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: catastrophic for them moving forward. Look, I certainly think if 339 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: you're a if you're a rail worker, you're paying attention 340 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: to this. And by the way, the state with the 341 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: most rail workers is the state of Texas. They're about 342 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand freight rail workers in the state of Texas, 343 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I was proud to stand with them. 344 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: And I think what this reveals, and it's something the 345 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: Democrats reveal day in and day out, is is that 346 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: they their view of unions as long as the union 347 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: bosses are in their back pop get, they're happy and 348 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: they're willing to just screw the workers all day long 349 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: if they think the bosses will be okay with it. 350 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Does this strengthen or wink in the union bosses the 351 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: fact that they couldn't get this deal done on behalf 352 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: of their workers? Does this make the workers basically say, 353 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: all right, well, you guys don't do anything for us. 354 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: We know who you'd take your orders from. You know, 355 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. You would certainly think they're going to 356 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: be some workers who are pissed off U and I 357 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I would understand why they're pissed off. I think wanting 358 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: to have the ability to take a sick day if 359 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: you're actually sick is not a particularly crazy request for 360 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: a worker. And it was really quite striking that the 361 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Biden White House got virtually every Democrat to to march 362 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: off a cliff. It was interesting right after I cast 363 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: the vote on the sick leave. I walked over to Bernie. 364 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: You mentioned the fist bump. I walked over to Bernie 365 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: and he stuck his fist fisp out and gave me 366 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: a fist bump. He was actually the one who initiated it. 367 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: And I said, Bernie, I just voted with you. And 368 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if that hurts me more, 369 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: if it hurts you more, well, and they were even 370 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: they were even all in on Chris Hayes on MSNBC. 371 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes was talking to Bernie Sanders about this vote, 372 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: and there was a there was a pretty darn funny moment. 373 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: Take a list and for everybody that probably missed it 374 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: because you weren't watching MSNBC. So there's a Dear Colleague 375 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: letter out from Speaker Pelosi about the votes tomorrow, and 376 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: they're saying there will be two votes, a vote on 377 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: the deal, a vote on seven days paid sick leave. 378 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: So then I guess the question that comes and comes 379 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: to the Senate. I assume Majority Leader Chuck Schumer will 380 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: will probably have two votes. Can you get ten Republicans? 381 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: You got Ted Cruis and Mark Rubio, you know, basically 382 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: all but singing the international tongue in cheek because they're 383 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: doing they're doing it in a kind of trolling fashion. 384 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: I thought you would appreciate that center Bernie there because 385 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: he's laughing. And you know, this is when politics it 386 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: just gets weird and it makes me happy at the 387 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: same time that it's not every day that you and 388 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: I would be ever would ever imagine we're sitting here 389 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: talking about you fist bumping Bernie Sanders and this type 390 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: of almost like Saturday Live humor on a real news channel. 391 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: For that moment, well, when I went over and Bernie 392 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: fist bumped me, he said, I, you know, I always 393 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: knew you were a socialist, but listen, it is not 394 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: being a socialist to stand with working men and women. 395 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: I believe passionately that that I think Republicans we should 396 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: be to the party of jobs. We should be a 397 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: blue collar party. That's who we should stand and fight 398 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: for and and and so. Uh. You know, I will 399 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: say there are times when Bernie and I overlap, Like 400 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: I can recall one other time where he and I 401 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: voted together, and that was a couple of years ago. 402 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: We both voted in favor of allowing the reimportation of 403 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: drugs pharmaceutical drugs that US farmac companies sell, say to Canada, 404 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: and they sell them really cheap in Canada and really 405 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: expensive in the United States. And I voted and said, 406 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: you ought to be able to and port it back 407 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: to Canada at the cheap levels, because what's happening is 408 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: essentially the big farma companies are using US consumers to 409 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: get their profit, and they're subsidizing foreign overseas sales. And 410 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why the federal government should 411 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: protect their price fixing. And so I happily voted for that. 412 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: Bernie did too. It failed. A bunch of Republicans, had 413 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: a bunch of Democrats voted against it. And where I 414 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: would say sometimes you see the far left and far 415 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: right coming together is skepticism of massive corporate power, and 416 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: in both of those instances you can get some overlaps 417 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: of what would otherwise be strange. Bedfellow. There was a 418 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: very interesting moment that happened, and it was a comparing 419 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: contrast between the White House's opinion on Twitter and how 420 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: they're monitoring Twitter like they're the communist China and watching 421 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: closely what is happening with Elon Musk pushing for more 422 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: free speech on the platform and then comparing it to 423 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: what Apple is doing and how the White House is 424 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: happy to look the other way with Apple, I mean, 425 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: doing things to help the Chinese communist government crack down 426 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: on their people, silenced their people. And there was a 427 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: very interesting back and forth between Martha mcconmull. I'm a 428 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: big fan of hers at Fox and John Kirby in 429 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: front of the White House. I want to play part 430 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: of this because it tells you everything you need to 431 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: know about this White House and the hypocrisy with these 432 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: two big companies and how they're treating them so differently generally. 433 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: And we've been clear about this all around the world. 434 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: We want the individual citizens, no matter what government daily wonder, 435 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: to be able to communicate freely and openly, transparently and reliably. 436 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: And we've we've made that clear with the respect to Iran, 437 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: and we certainly continue to make that clear here with 438 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: respect to Apple. Apple Apples a private company, Martha, they 439 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: have to make decisions and they have to speak for 440 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: those decisions. But but here at the White House, here 441 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: in the administration, we want to see that that individual citizens, 442 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: whether they're protesting or not. But in this case. I 443 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: know that's the context we're talking about, are able to 444 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: communicate freely and openly, But why not say something to 445 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: Apple because we were just told the other day that 446 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: the White House is keeping an eye on Elon Musk 447 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: and Twitter. So why would you say that from the podium. 448 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: You didn't say it, but Queen Jehan Pierre said it, 449 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: and not call Apple out for helping the Chinese government 450 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: to suppress their own people's ability to communicate. Again, I 451 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: think we've been very clear and consistent on this, certainly publicly, 452 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: we've been very open about our desires to be able 453 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: to see citizens communicate. Uh. And you know, Apple, if 454 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: this is a decision that they're making, then they should 455 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: have to speak to that. But we you know, we're not. 456 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: We can't and we aren't in the business of telling 457 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: private companies how to execute their But Twitter company too, 458 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: So why is Twitter getting one treatment Apple's getting another? 459 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: Is my question? Well, these are completely two different circumstances. 460 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: You're talking about the potential, well you're talking about the 461 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: potential for perhaps foreign investment and involvement in the management 462 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: of Twitter. That's a different issue than what we're talking 463 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: about here, which is a business decision by Apple with 464 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: respect to how one of their applications is being used 465 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: influenced by the by a foreign government, and that government 466 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: is China. I mean, Senator, I want to hit pause 467 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: here because I want to get your initial take on this. 468 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: The White House is trying to claim that these two 469 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: companies are totally different in the scenarios They're not. You're you're. 470 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: You're basically telling one company we're really going to look 471 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: at you and may crack down you, and the other 472 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: company is actually doing the bidding of the Chinese Communist 473 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: government and silencing people, and the White House is completely 474 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: looking the other direction. Well, first of all, good on 475 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: on Martha Accallum for for holding them to account. That 476 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: that that was really effective questioning, and it John Kirby 477 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: realized he was in real trouble because what he was 478 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: saying was utterly incoherent. Why has the White House not 479 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: said anything to Apple about their willingly participating in the 480 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist government of pressing and silencing the protesters because 481 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats are in bed with China because they support 482 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: the policy. Look, Apple disabled air drop that they are 483 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: literally the instrumentality of silencing the protesters and they're they're 484 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: acting effectively on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party and 485 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: doing so, I think what they're doing is disgraceful and shameful. Well, 486 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: and a person I won't say that as Joe Biden. Well, 487 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: and you had the Apple CEO walking the halls of Congress. 488 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: He luckily there was a Fox reporter that tried to 489 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: ask the question of the Apple ceo. Here's how that 490 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: went down, and he said nothing and tried to walk 491 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: away from her multiple different directions. Do you support the 492 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: Chinese people's right to protest? He's right there. Do you 493 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: have any reaction to the factory workers that were beaten 494 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: and detained for protesting COVID lockdowns? It's right there, restricting 495 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: air drop access that protesters used to evade surveillance from 496 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: the Chinese government. Do you think it's problematic to do 497 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: business with the Communist Chinese Party when they suppress human rights? 498 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: And there he does, he walks into some other I'm 499 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: assuming Democrats office, the Apple ceo their center. I mean, 500 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: just wouldn't say a word. I mean he's right there, 501 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: he's right next to the microphone. He could have said anything. 502 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: He said not a single word. Well, because they can't 503 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: defend what they're doing because they are in bed with 504 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist you know, even the simple statement I 505 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: stand with the protesters, he can't say why because he's 506 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: manufacturing a lot of his products in China and because 507 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: he desperately wants continued access to the Chinese market. He 508 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: looks at China and he sees dollar bills as far 509 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: as the eye can see. And this is a problem 510 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: with a lot of corporate America, A lot of the 511 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: Fortune five hundred is eagerly complicit with Chinese atrocities, even 512 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: with murder and torture and concentration camps, because that they 513 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: think they can make a buck off of it. We 514 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: see the same thing with the NBA, who's terrified to 515 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: criticize the Chinese Communist Party in any way, shape or 516 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: form for the same reason. It's all about money. But 517 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: what I liked about the questioning with Martha McCullum. McCollum 518 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: is that the utter hypocrisy. What it concerns Twitter? Where 519 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: where Twitter? You know? Karine Jean Pierre said, we're keeping 520 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: an eye on them. And by the way, John Kirby's answer, well, 521 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: we're concerned about foreign ownership of Twitter. No, no, that 522 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: is not what Karine Jean Pierre said. The question that 523 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: was asked by this lefty reporter is Twitter is allowing 524 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: free speech and millions more new people are signing up 525 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: for it. Aren't you worried that all of these people 526 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: are hearing free speech and they might hear quote misinformation, 527 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 1: which is the left's code word for anything they disagree with. 528 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: And that's what Karine Jean Pierre respond responded to with 529 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: We're keeping an eye on it. It wasn't foreign ownership, 530 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: it was that the two are identical. Actually, listen the 531 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: White House, the Biden Harris White House, when a company 532 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: is doing what they want, they're happy with them, and 533 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: when a company is not doing what they want, they 534 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: abuse them. The reason they don't like Twitter is that 535 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: under Elon Musk Twit, Twitter has stopped censoring conservatives, and 536 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: the Biden White House wants their opponents censored. The reason 537 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: they're happy with Apple is the Biden White House is 538 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: perfectly happy with the Chinese Communist government censoring and silencing 539 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: the protesters there. In both instances, it's Democrats supporting censorship 540 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: and using power to silence descending vote voices. How concerned. 541 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Do you think Democrats are in Congress and the White 542 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: House that they not only can they not controlled Twitter 543 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: any longer, but Twitter is going to quite possibly expose 544 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: what they were doing behind the scenes with Twitter. I 545 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: think that's one of their biggest fears, is that the 546 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is going to put all this out there 547 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: and it's going to show a level of collusion that 548 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: would only be described before you see it in your 549 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: life as the most extreme quote alt right conspiracy theories 550 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: that show that the Democratic Party was working hand in 551 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: hand the media, was working hand in hand with Twitter, 552 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: and that would also mean big tech obviously Facebook and others, 553 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: and that we're going to find out that they were 554 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: influencing elections, including maybe even on the local state level 555 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: where they were silencing candidates and possibly again from what 556 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: we've seen from Elon Musk, that the throttling of candidates 557 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: and the not allowing for your the people that follow 558 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: you to see things. I mean, if you're doing that 559 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: nationwide and you really think about this and you're tweeting 560 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: as a conservative, right, let's use let's use a perfect 561 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: example in Georgia right now. If herschel Walker tweets and 562 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: no one sees it, but Raphael Warnock tweets, and everybody sees, 563 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: especially in a geographical area that's important to him, aka Georgia, 564 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: because that's where people can vote. And this is what 565 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: Elon Musk in the last twenty four hours seems to 566 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: be tipping his hat to a little bit that this 567 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: was far beyond just censoring or silence and information. The 568 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: whole entire system center may have been rigged. Yeah, listen, 569 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: I think when this information is revealed, I think it 570 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: is going to exceed the most fevered paranoid fantasies. I 571 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: think it was so thoroughly corrupt, it was so blatant. 572 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: I think big tech oligarchs believe they're utterly unaccountable, and 573 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: I am thrilled. I think it's one of the most 574 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: important things. It's one of the things I've urged Elon 575 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: to do, which is make it public, make it transparent, 576 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: just shine the light. And I think you're going to 577 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: see lots and lots and lots of communications from Democrats 578 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: saying silence this person because I don't like what they're saying. 579 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: We know that doctor Fauci communicated in writing repeatedly with 580 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook, and he could have been the 581 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: first one, right, I mean, let's connect those dots for 582 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: people quick center if a guy that really no one 583 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: knew about, right I mean Faucci. And then he becomes ultimate, 584 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: massively famous, and then he starts using these back channels 585 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: to silence and censor people in certain things and certain 586 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: ideas and certain theories. He didn't just think that was 587 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: possible out of thin air. Somebody had to explain to 588 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: him how the system worked. Hey, man, we do this 589 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: all the time. Hey, this is how you do it. Hey, 590 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: here's the contact, this is how we roll this out. Well, 591 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: to be fair, at that time, Fauci was pretty famous 592 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: because it was during COVID, so he was already front 593 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: and center. He was the face of the response of 594 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: medicine in the government. But Faucci so like one of 595 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: the things in writing that he asked Zuckerberg to do 596 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: is silence is suppress anyone saying that the origins of 597 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: COVID were the Wuhuan Institute for Virology, the Chinese government lab. 598 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: Now we now know that the overwhelming weight of the 599 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: evidence suggests that is in fact the origins of COVID, 600 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: So Fauci was literally asking him to suppress true information 601 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: because it didn't fit his political narrative. We also know 602 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: that the FBI asked Facebook too, and I believe Twitter also, 603 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: yeah and well, to censor stories about Hunter Biden's laptop 604 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: because they said it had all the hallmarks of Russian 605 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: and misinformation. We now know that's false, that the hundred 606 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: Biden laptop story was true, and yet big Tech was 607 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: more than happy to operate on behalf of the deep 608 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: state at the FBI and silence it. I think Elon's 609 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: making this public. It's one of the reasons why Democrats 610 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: are freaking out. You know, Jim Carrey is leaving Twitter. 611 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh the world will be so empty without his ostentatious leftism. 612 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: You know, Hillary Clinton is freaking out. It's one of 613 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: the reasons, by the way, you know, the the the 614 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: corporate America behemoth that is fighting Twitter, the artist that 615 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: would be Apple. Apple was the single largest advertiser on Twitter. 616 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: They've halted all their advertising, which is a huge blow 617 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: to Twitter. 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