1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things the 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: election coverage. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: I want to play a couple more cuts of the 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: disastrous MSNBC interview with Stephanie Rule that Kamala did last night, 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: and I want to continue to emphasize to all of 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: you that you should go watch it for yourself. And 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: I know it's painful, but I do think it's important 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: for you to listen to what she's saying because maybe 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: there's persuadable people in your friend or family group who 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: are buying in to the Kamala Harris word salad, or 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: to the idea of brat summer, or the idea that 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: somehow she is going to be able to manage the 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: United States government. Here she is, Buck, Let's have it. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: These are a couple of fun, ridiculous, ridiculous answers. Kamala 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: has evidently learned the word holistic. 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 2: She uses it. 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: I want to play this for you three times in 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: twenty six seconds, all within a nonsensical word salad talking 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: about working people. 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: Listen, some of the work is going to be through 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: what we do in terms of giving benefits and assistance 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: to state local governments around transit dollars and looking holistically 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: at the connection between that and housing, and looking holistically 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 4: at the incentives we in the federal government can create 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: for local and state governments to actually engage in planning 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 4: in a holistic manner that includes prioritizing affordable housing for 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: working people. 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: I want to show yourself in the head when I 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: mean this book holistically. 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 6: Her campaign is a disaster, and if the Republicans can't 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 6: defeat her with Donald Trump, we need to do some 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 6: profound soul. 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: Searching as a party. That's where I am. 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 6: That's why I've been so confident every day of this election, 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 6: ever since they've nominated kam Law I was You'll notice 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 6: I was not celebrating early when he was up against Biden, 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 6: even though I knew he had dementia and all that stuff, 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 6: just because of what's going to make the difference in 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 6: the key states. As we've discussed many times on the show, 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 6: Kamala's a weaker. I know the polls with Biden, but 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 6: I really believe that they could have trodded him out 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 6: there for debate. He would have done better and he 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 6: would have had a rebound. I think Kamala is a 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 6: weaker matchup for Trump and Joe Biden. Was Kamala with 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 6: using the word holistic reminds me. We used to do 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 6: something called the vocabulary. 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 5: Work word of the day. 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope to see you not sporadically from clueless, remember. 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: Yes, And we had to use we had to write 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: sentences and every now and then a teacher would be like, 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: you guys are just mailing it in because you know, 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: you would use you know, we discussed the whatever the 55 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: word was, you would use it in a sentence and 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: it would be like using the definition of the word 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: in the sentence and we would get, you know, marked 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: off or whatever. It is definitely the case that she 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: is trying to pretend to be intelligent by using a 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 3: word that she just learned as many times as she could. 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: Now there's another. 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: It's just one thing just to be oh, did you 63 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 5: want to go to a call? 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: Or I've got another I've got another funny way. 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 6: We'll do the other clip and then I'll tell you 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 6: what I'm what I'm thinking here, go ahead. 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: There has been a discussion about whether Kamala actually worked 69 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: at McDonald's. There is no evidence that she did work 70 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: at McDonald's. By the way, you would think there'd be 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: a pay stub out there. You would think there would 72 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: be some coworker. I don't know about you, Buck, I've 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: had multiple jobs in my life that were like retail 74 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: kind of focused. I worked at American Eagle, I mentioned 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: Abercrombie and Fitch before I worked at Media Play. Okay, 76 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: all three of those jobs I. 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 6: Just a Clay and my wife both worked at Abercrombie, 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 6: which people who work there. I love to tell you 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 6: because back in the day you had to be good 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 6: looking to work at Abercromby. 81 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: Producer Ali worked at McDonald's. Let me just say this, Buck, 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: I believe today you could find a coworker of mine 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: at all three of those places and they would say, yes, 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: I worked with Clay Travis, we had you know, like X, 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: Y and Z Right. 86 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: There would be. 87 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: Multiple coworkers that would remember working there. If I were 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: running for president of the United States, they would be 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: super easy to find. Right on social media to be 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 3: coming out. Why has no one who worked with Kamala 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: Harris she's a good looking girl. When she was working 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: at McDonald's buck you, if you're a teenager, you would 93 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: remember a pretty girl that worked alongside of you at 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: a place like McDonald's. I'm just gonna say, if you're 95 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: a dude, if you're a straight guy, none of them 96 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: have come out and said, oh yeah, a unique name 97 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: like Kamala, none of them can remember working alongside of 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: her at McDonald's. That would be an interesting question. I 99 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: would just point out here is Stephanie rule quit a 100 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: questioning Kamala about her McDonald's job. 101 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: Listen, first, one, just a fact check because your opponent 102 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: there is a literal day, there's no such thing. 103 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: As a little job. 104 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: Okay, fair, fair, because your opponent almost every day seems 105 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: to be talking about this. 106 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 7: So I just want to ask you, yes or no? 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: At any point in your life. 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: Have you served to all beef patties, special sauce, let 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: us cheese pick those onions on. 110 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: But I'm looking at a McDonald's yes or no, that's it. 111 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: I have Okay, now the other job, but it was 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: not a small job like I do guys. 113 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, okay, she worked at the fries. 114 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous way to ask a question. That's not 115 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: a fact check. A fact check would be that is 116 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: Kamala's story. I just think it's important even in the 117 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: way that that question is asked. That's important fact check. 118 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: That's not a fact check. That is asking Kamala the 119 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: same story that she's already told in asking her to 120 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: reinforce that that is her story. 121 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: That is not a fact check. 122 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 6: But I also think that the Kamala that you are 123 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 6: seeing in this campaign, whether it's in the most puff 124 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 6: piece interview or the fact that you know they're hiding her, 125 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 6: I have like a little a little bit of sympathy 126 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 6: for her position Clay, because she's she's playing a role 127 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 6: that is not how she has thought as an adult 128 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: for her entire life in public. Certainly, what I mean 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 6: is when she speaks about these things, I think part 130 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 6: of why she's falling back so heavily on like holistically 131 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 6: and fair share and and and these things is because 132 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 6: she's not telling people. You know, if if someone asked 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 6: you a question, or you asked me a question, we 134 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 6: don't think about how this will sound to them. We 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 6: just answered the question, right, because I'll tell them what 136 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 6: we think. She can't tell people what she thinks. Put 137 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 6: aside that she's not particularly cognitively elite. 138 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: She can't. 139 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 6: She's she's always you know, it would be like if 140 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 6: someone asked you something, Clay and you were having or 141 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 6: you know, ask me something and said Buck, you know, 142 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 6: as a communist, like as a leftist, what do you 143 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 6: think about this? And I'd have to translate that. I 144 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 6: could do it, but I'd have to stop and think 145 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 6: and translate it into the response that I'm. 146 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 5: Supposed to give. She's doing that this whole campaign. She's not. Really. 147 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 6: The only thing where she's authentic is abortion. That's the 148 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 6: only issue where she's able to give her real opinion. 149 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: You know, it's fascinating because what you're really hitting is 150 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: what I think is the essence of this race. Whatever 151 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: you think about him, Donald Trump is an authentic version 152 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: of himself. He's not being something that he's not. I 153 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: think Kamala is the most fundamentally inauthentic candidate that we 154 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: have ever seen in a presidential race. And she is 155 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: trying to play the role of moderate, which requires her 156 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: to pretend that she never has told us anything else 157 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: about her past, even things simple Like we talked about 158 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: this a little bit earlier in the week. She's saying Oh, 159 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: I've got a gun. You come in my house, I'll 160 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: shoot you, right. I mean, I'm paraphrasing the things that 161 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: she has said. 162 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 5: Buck. 163 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: When she was in San Francisco, she tried to pass 164 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: a measure, work to help pass a measure that would 165 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: have led to the seizure of all handguns in San Francisco. 166 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: That is who she is, and so she has defined 167 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: herself in left wing politics throughout her entire career in California, 168 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: and now when she tries to introduce herself on the 169 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: national stage, she has all this past history and she 170 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: now has to claim that she doesn't mean any of 171 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: the things that she said she believed in before. 172 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 6: That's why she's particularly, you know, not unfluid in the 173 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 6: way that she's speaking about these things. She's having to 174 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 6: think back to what did my handlers say. It's just 175 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 6: like she was in the debate. People said, oh, she 176 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: did such a good job in the debate. Well, I mean, yeah, 177 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 6: if you think that giving if you think that reciting speeches, 178 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 6: not answering questions and not having to be pressed on 179 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: the answers you give makes you a good debater, I mean, 180 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 6: anyone can get up there. You know, we had something 181 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 6: in the speech and debate Team Clay. 182 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: It's very cool. Obviously it was a very cool guy. 183 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: In high school, they. 184 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 6: Called a declamation, and that was for people who memorize, 185 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 6: like Pericles funeral oration or something, or you know, they'd 186 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 6: usually do like a funny speech, but it was a 187 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 6: memorized speech, very different from debate. Kamala Harris is doing 188 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 6: declamation piecemeal. She's talking of she's saying things that she 189 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 6: has learned her memories. It's not what she believes, it's 190 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 6: not what she thinks, it's what she's been told to say. 191 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 6: And you're always going it's almost like if you're somebody 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 6: who isn't fluent in another language and you're having to 193 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 6: translate it. Yeah, you know, like I could figure out 194 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 6: how to ask where do I get Clay's really expensive 195 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 6: steak in French? But it's going to take me a minute. 196 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 6: You know, it's not just going to come out of, 197 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 6: you know, come flying out. So that's what Kamala's that's 198 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 6: her challenge is that she's presenting herself. 199 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 5: If she was able to be full leftist. 200 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 6: I mean, wouldn't that be amazing if she was able 201 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 6: to really just say what she wanted to say about 202 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 6: all this stuff. 203 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: Obviously, she would get destroyed in the. 204 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 5: Election, but I think she would sound better. 205 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: I do think she would sound better. Buck here's the challenge. 206 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: I think she would still run into even if she 207 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: was going full leftist. I don't think she's smart enough 208 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: to articulate full leftist opinions. And by the way, I 209 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: don't think Tim Walls is either. I think that's the 210 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: reason you haven't even seen him do a single interview basically. 211 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: But look, I disagree with Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. 212 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: They're not morons, right, Those are intelligent people who could 213 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: at least try to advocate for what they believe. 214 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: But remember leftism. One of the great benefits of leftism 215 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 6: for those who are its adherents is that it is 216 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 6: all emotion and slogans, right. I mean, if you talk 217 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: to Bernie Sanders about what will really happen when you 218 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 6: get into some of his policies, he's like. 219 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's what's the right thing to do, 220 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: or whatever. 221 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 6: He doesn't it's like, well, Bernie, you're gonna have a 222 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 6: lot of businesses closed down, You're gonna have a lot 223 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 6: less growth, you're gonna have people pour or across the board. 224 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 6: He's like, well, yeah, that's the cost of doing business, 225 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like leftists, I mean, look 226 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 6: at look at AOC. Look at AOC. Does she understand economics? No, 227 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 6: but she is fluent in communism. 228 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we should talk in the next hour. We're 229 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: going to talk with Ran Paul, but we need to 230 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: talk about all the maneuverings going on New York City mayor. Wise, 231 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: Oh we're talking about is AOC potentially going to make 232 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: a run for mayor of New York City? 233 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: Is Oh? 234 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: God, Drew Cuomo, Like, there are a lot of Democrat 235 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 3: decisions to be made. 236 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact 237 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: with Clay and Buck, I. 238 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: Think these charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams 239 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: are super, super interesting. And the New York Post today 240 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: Buck had a cover art that essentially said that Eric 241 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: Adams was being charged because he had been too critical 242 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: of the migrant crisis brought on by the Biden and 243 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris administrations. And you and I were two of 244 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: the first people I heard pointing this out. And I 245 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: think many people now, even who were initially critical of 246 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: that idea that the full indictment has come out, and 247 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: we went through some of the indictment allegations, but a 248 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: big part of it, essentially is he got upgrades on 249 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: Turkish airlines and he got better hotel rooms. Then he 250 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: would have gotten based on his stature as a prominent politician. 251 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: And I would just say this, buck, if getting airline 252 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: upgrades in better hotel rooms, then you would otherwise get 253 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: is grounds for politicians to be charged with felonies. I 254 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: think almost every politician in America could be charged with 255 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: a felony, a Republican Democrat, anybody, because I don't know 256 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: about you. I've gotten on a lot of airplanes over 257 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: the years and seen a lot of politicians sitting in 258 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: first class seats. And if you're only making one hundred 259 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: and seventy five thousand dollars a year those upgrades, it 260 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: seems like you may be getting a little bit of 261 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: beneficial treatment. I'll just say that, because or you're paying 262 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: for your camp with your public funds for those first 263 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: class seats. Anyway, saying that, I think that's perfectly okay. 264 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: Certainly I don't like the idea of people trading on 265 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: their political power, but. 266 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: In the grand scheme of things. This is not. 267 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: Menendez taking gold bars to help Egypt. 268 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 6: Well, there's a difference between gross and a crime for 269 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 6: which you should lose your freedom and your reputation, right, 270 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 6: I mean, Morning Joe is gross, But I don't want 271 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 6: them sent to prison. They might want us sent to prison. 272 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 6: But I was watching it this morning, of course, That's 273 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 6: why that's on my mind. There's a big difference. And 274 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 6: I think that when you're talking about these kinds of 275 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 6: of soft benefits, I guess you could call them. This 276 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 6: reminds me of the like I said, the Conrad blackcase, 277 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 6: who was a conservative media mogul, a very very smart writer. 278 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 6: He still I think publishers sometimes National Review in other places, 279 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 6: and they sent him to federal prison under the Honest 280 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 6: Services Frauds Statute, saying that I mean, I can't even 281 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 6: get in all the details right now, but the Supreme 282 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 6: Court nine to oh said, if you guys take this 283 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 6: statute for what it says, you've committed fraud. If you 284 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 6: take a better seat at a restaurant that you're doing 285 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 6: business with, let's say, or better table, because you know 286 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 6: it's influencing you and you're not going to give your 287 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 6: honest services to the company that you're working for because 288 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 6: they gave you a better table. It's insane and the 289 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 6: stuff that with Look, we're not he I'm not like 290 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 6: some huge mayor Eric Adams fan. Right, He's been a terrible. 291 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: Mayor and a joker at best, only decent by the 292 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: standard of not as bad as better than Deblasio. 293 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: Deblasio was a straight up f tried to ruin the 294 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 6: city and did as much damage to New York City 295 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 6: as he could. Deblasio is an F. He was a 296 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 6: cancer on the city of New York as the mayor. 297 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 6: And anybody who voted for him in New York to 298 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 6: my former fellow New Yorkers or people like me that 299 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 6: you used to live in New York, you should feel 300 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 6: ashamed of voting for the bla. Anyone who voted for 301 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 6: Deblasio should feel shame. But anyway, you know, Adams is 302 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 6: like a D plus maybe a C minus. You know 303 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 6: if the Blasio is an F. But Clay they're going 304 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 6: after him. This is the thing that people said, oh, well, 305 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 6: this crime has been going on for a long time. Yeah, 306 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 6: they're talking about when he was Brooklyn Borough president in 307 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, that's almost a decade ago. They're talking about 308 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 6: business class upgrades on Turk Apparently one of our VIPs 309 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 6: sent and Turkish airlines very nice. I didn't know that, 310 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 6: very very nice, world class airline. 311 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: Who knew? 312 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: Who knew? 313 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm just saying Clay was talking some smack about Turkey. 314 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: I came in. 315 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: You just said Turkey wouldn't be in the top twenty 316 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: five countries that I would want to visit. 317 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 6: He's like, the only Turkey I like comes on Thanksgiving. 318 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 6: I'm just saying Clay was taking some shots to Wan audience. 319 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: He positioned, unless you aren't, maybe we have a huge 320 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: Turkish audience. 321 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: I apologize to everyone out there, is anybody like you 323 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: know what I really want to do. You know what 324 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: dream vacation I've had my whole life. I want to 325 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: go to Istanbul. I mean, maybe there are some of 326 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: you out there that are like istan You know there 327 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: is nobody listening. 328 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 6: The number one vacation is Istanbul Constantinople. Now, Istanbul is 329 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 6: one of the most historically rich and significant locations of 330 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 6: any city on the planet. 331 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you the truth, man, I'm just laying 332 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: it down for you. 333 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: It is now I'm going to end up there somehow, 334 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: and people are going to blow me up on social 335 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: media because I'm. 336 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 5: Playing buck go to Turkey. Well, has so much fun, dude. 337 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 6: A lot of guys with mustaches serving a steak is 338 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 6: all I can tell you. 339 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: It'll be a great guy. 340 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: Not in my top twenty five, but if the standard. 341 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: But you mentioned the services investigation, the court and the 342 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: way they examined it. Remember they wouldn't even allow anything 343 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: that was probably ten x this from the Republican governor 344 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: of Virginia. They convicted him basically of the bribery and 345 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: then they were like, this is garbage. 346 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court tossed it back. 347 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 6: That's right, And that was that was Governor Bob McDonald 348 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 6: and even some conservatives. You know, I was doing solo 349 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 6: rate at the time, Clay, and I was like, this 350 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 6: is crazy, this is over itat some conservatives like, no, 351 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 6: like we can't stand for corruption. I'm like corruption. This 352 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 6: guy's like, hey, here's a Rolex and then yeah, if 353 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 6: he signs a law that says that this guy's company 354 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 6: gets some special tax break, that's corruption. But he was 355 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 6: just hanging out with him. 356 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like longtime friends. And again there was 357 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: also they've come after like Clarence Thomas for flying on 358 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: private jets, right, Like, this is ridiculous a lot. 359 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: There was never even an allegation that he did something 360 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 6: as governor for the person who gave him the gift. 361 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 5: Now you could say, you know what I'm saying. 362 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: Like Buck, the quid pro quo in the Eric Adams 363 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: case is that he helped them deal with challenges associated 364 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: with firearms in the Turkish consulate. I mean, are you 365 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: really arguing that that this was some ma I mean, 366 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: that is what That's the only real thing they're able 367 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: to peg of his behavior, Like what did they get 368 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: back for this? 369 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 6: I just better fire alarm treatment. But here's where people 370 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: have started to really hone in on this. You're gonna 371 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 6: tell me that if Eric Adams hadn't ticked off the 372 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 6: White House and hadn't spoken out and became a national 373 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 6: news story multiple days, multiple news cycles over the last 374 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 6: year in the election year, talking about how the migrants 375 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 6: are swamping a city, talking about the migrant crime, how 376 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 6: they're attacking NYPD officers, et cetera, et cetera. All these 377 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 6: different stories that they had had that a federal prosecutor 378 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 6: who works for Biden's DOJ would bring this case now. 379 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 6: The only reason they're bringing this case now is because 380 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 6: Eric Adams has been cast out, if you will, from 381 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 6: the Democrat faithful and no longer has the protection of 382 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 6: King Biden. That's what And it sends a message to 383 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 6: any other Democrats who, by the way, also Clay have 384 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 6: their cities overham with migrants. You better shut your mouth. 385 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 6: Look what we can do to Adams. 386 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 5: Because otherwise this is they're going back to twenty sixteen. 387 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 6: Like I said, you're bringing this now. You couldn't wait 388 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 6: until late November to bring this case. 389 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: How about just wait until the election, which is in 390 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: June of next year, and let people decide whether they 391 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: want Eric Adams to remain the mayor. But I want 392 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: to play to your point, Buck, this is when he 393 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 3: really kind of a game, became persona non grata with 394 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: the Biden White House when he back in September of 395 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, in a public setting, said hey, this 396 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: is going to destroy the city and the city's budget. 397 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: The migrant surge in New York City cut fourteen. 398 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 8: Let me tell you something, New York is never in 399 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 8: my life. Have I had a problem that I I'm 400 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 8: not seeing ended. 401 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 5: Two, I don't see an ending to this. 402 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 8: I don't see an ending to this. This issue will 403 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 8: destroy New York City. Destroy New York City. We get 404 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 8: in ten thousand migrants a month. One time we were 405 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 8: just in Venezuela. Now we get Ecuador. Now we get 406 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 8: Russia speaking coming through Mexico. Now we get Western Africa. 407 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 8: Now we get people from all over the globe that 408 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 8: made their minds up that they're going to come through 409 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 8: the southern part of the border and come into New 410 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 8: York City. 411 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that was when it started. 412 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: Listen to this book, Karine Jean Pierre was asked about this. 413 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: Hey was the mayor targeted because of his criticisms of 414 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: the Biden administra immigration policy? 415 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: This is cut eight. Listen to her. 416 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 9: Dodge Mayor Eric Adams suggests that he's being targeted by 417 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 9: the Biden administration over his criticism of the migrant crisis. Now, 418 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 9: this is the kind of accusation that's similar to what 419 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 9: we've heard from former President Donald Trump. So what is 420 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 9: the President's reaction to that kind of language being used 421 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 9: from a Democrat. 422 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 10: Look, we have been always very clear The President was 423 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 10: clear even when he was running in twenty twenty that 424 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 10: he was going to make sure that DOJ is independent 425 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 10: and the DOJ is handling this case independently. I'm not 426 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 10: going to go beyond that. 427 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 9: And Adams was also at a reception last night with 428 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 9: the President at the net. 429 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 11: Did they talk. 430 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 10: I can confirm to you that the President did not 431 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 10: see the mayor and they did not speak. 432 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: Oh that's good, Bed, And I didn't know they were 433 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: both at a met gala last night. 434 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: Buck. Here's Donald Trump. Yesterday. 435 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: We talked about the fact that we thought he would 436 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: potentially raise this as an issue at his press conference 437 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: in New York City, Trump said Eric Adams is being 438 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: targeted because he spoke out on the migrant crisis. 439 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: Listen to cut nine. 440 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 6: I watched about a year ago when he talked about 441 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 6: how the illegal migrants are hurting our city and the 442 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 6: federal government should pay us and we shouldn't have to 443 00:21:59,200 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 6: take him. 444 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: And I say, you know what, He'll be indicted. 445 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: Within a year. 446 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: And I was exactly right, because that's what we have. 447 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: We have people that use the Justice Department and the 448 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: FBI at levels that have never been seen before. 449 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 5: So I wish him luck. I don't know anything about 450 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 5: what he did. 451 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Buck, that was I think kind of many people 452 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: across America recognizing that it's not even necessarily the party name, 453 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: it's are you in good standing with the Biden Department 454 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: of Justice or not, because even if you've got a 455 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: D by your name, if you cross them, they want 456 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: to send a message that there is pain and punishment 457 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: coming your way. 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 6: Look at how the Democrats operate, Clay. As a general rule, 459 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 6: they operate like a mafia family. 460 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: I mean they you know, as. 461 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: Long as you do what the apparatus wants, you will 462 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 6: be protected and you'll be taken care of, even if 463 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: you got a you know, on your sword, so to speak, 464 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 6: and maybe go away for all whatever. But if you 465 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: step out of line with the powers that be, they 466 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 6: want to make an example of you. I mean, listen 467 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 6: to what Eric Adams said there. He said, they're destroying 468 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 6: New York City. He didn't say like, hey, we could 469 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 6: use a little more money like for the they're destroying 470 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 6: New York City. And that SoundBite really resonated across the 471 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 6: country because the same thing's happening in Chicago. The same 472 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 6: thing's happening in, you know, a whole range of cities 473 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 6: all across America right now where you're getting all these 474 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 6: migrants that are being busted in or flown in, and 475 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 6: there's just no way to see this, I think other 476 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 6: than this is a huge vulnerability for the Democrats going 477 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 6: into the midterms, and bringing this case when they did 478 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 6: is a shot across the bow to any mayor any 479 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 6: governor any Democrat who thinks they're going to get a 480 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 6: little uh, you know, a little huffy about the migrant issues. 481 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: How shut up? 482 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: How about just honest. I mean, he didn't say anything 483 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: out landish. It's all just the truth. 484 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 485 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 6: You basically it's hey, Democrats, you better go along and 486 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 6: pretend like Kamala Harris hasn't destroyed the border with Joe 487 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 6: Biden and hasn't completely made our sovereignty a joke. Or 488 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 6: we'll come for you too. And that's clay in a sense. 489 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 6: Why is the Eric Adams prosecution right now so powerful 490 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 6: as that messaging, Because first of all, he's got Republicans 491 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 6: basically defending him like you and me. I mean, yeah, 492 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 6: it's like a little slimy some of the stuff he 493 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 6: did fine, but I mean it's not big stuff. I mean, 494 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 6: this isn't like, oh my gosh, lock him up, like 495 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 6: people's businesses were ruined because of this Clay. The message 496 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 6: is sent very powerfully to Democrats. We can get you 497 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: two if we can get Eric Adams on business class upgrades. 498 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: Who do you think you are? 499 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: Business class? I just can't play. 500 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: And even the print quote quid pro quote what they 501 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 3: got help with fire awarms? I mean, this is this 502 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 3: is one of the craziest cases I've ever seen. You 503 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: got a better airplane and a better hotel room and 504 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: what did Okay, well, what did they get? 505 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 2: What did they get him? 506 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: That to you four so you could call and help, 507 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: get fire alarm help. 508 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 6: And he didn't get ten million that This is what 509 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 6: we have to really nail this down. I think he 510 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: got ten thousand dollars of straw donations, which is not good. 511 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you're not allowed to do that. That's a crime, 512 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 6: but it's ten it's a ten thousand dollars crime. They 513 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 6: keep saying ten million dollars because he then like leveraged 514 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 6: that to access state funds. And I'm like, hold hold 515 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 6: on a second. It feels like they're puffing things up 516 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 6: a little bit. 517 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: On this one. 518 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in 519 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis and buck Sexton. 520 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are 521 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: joined now by Ryan Gerdusky, National Populist Newsletter, founder of 522 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: the seventeen seventy six Project Pack, and I've been reading 523 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: his substack I believe it is, which has a lot 524 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: of data and analytics as it pertains to election date 525 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: out there. And Ryan, I want to start with this. 526 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: I think I read this on Friday of Life last 527 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: week or thereabouts, maybe over the weekend. You went into 528 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 3: the cross tabs and kind of looked at the data 529 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: coming out of Pennsylvania and you've compared it to twenty 530 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: sixteen and twenty twenty, and your theory of why these 531 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: polls have drastically under reported Donald Trump's strength and sixteen 532 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: and twenty is older white voters being underrepresented and not 533 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: accurately reflected in poll results. Walk our audience through it. 534 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: I found it to be a really persuasive argument. 535 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 7: Right so on the National Populous Newsletter on Substack, which 536 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 7: is my substack. Nate Cohen, who runs the New York 537 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 7: Times polling stuff at the Sanna University. They had Trump 538 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 7: tied nationally but losing Pennsylvania by four. And the big 539 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 7: question was why Nate Cohen even went through Twitter and 540 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 7: said again was responding to people saying, well, it's not 541 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 7: through this sub group. It's not through this subgroup. And 542 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 7: the group you never mentioned was seniors. In the New 543 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 7: York Times, nationally, Trump is winning seniors by six. This 544 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 7: is a group that he won them by four last time, 545 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 7: and he won them by I think it was nine 546 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 7: the time. Before then, republic seniors had voted Republican in 547 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 7: every election, majority in every election going back at least 548 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 7: twenty five years. So it is a very good assumption 549 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 7: to say seniors will be voting Republican this time as well. 550 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 7: Seniors in Pennsylvania vote to the right of seniors nationally. 551 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 7: So in twenty twelve, Romney won seniors nationally by twelve. 552 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 7: He won seniors in Pennsylvania by fourteen. In sixteen, Trump 553 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 7: won them by nine nationally, ten in Pennsylvania. In twenty 554 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 7: Trump won them by four nationally seven in Pennsylvania, so 555 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 7: they vote to the right. In the New York Times 556 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 7: Siena poll, Trump is winning seniors nationally by six but 557 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 7: losing seniors in Pennsylvania by three. Now I know they say, 558 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 7: don't get sit there, don't get so tied up in 559 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 7: in cross tabs. But at the same exact time, this 560 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 7: is not a crosshub of like Hispanics, which make a 561 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 7: five percent of Pennsylvania, so they have stremely high margins 562 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 7: of error. Seniors in Pennsylvania are a third of voters. 563 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 7: The margin of error is fairly low. He probably will 564 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 7: be winning seniors by close to ten points, which is 565 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: a if the national poll is correct at six, they'll 566 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 7: probably win close to ten points among seniors, and that 567 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 7: thirteen point difference is the margin between him winning or losing. 568 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 7: And I only made a big point of the New 569 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 7: York Times poll is because in all these polling aggregators, 570 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 7: Nate Silva wrote to the White House, the economists, the 571 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 7: New York Times, Cenapol puts a lot, They put a 572 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 7: lot of weight into that polling institution. So when they 573 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 7: all sit there and say, well, Harris's favor to win Pennsylvania, 574 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 7: a lot of it is because of the New York 575 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 7: Times Sanapol, which I think personally has this flaw of 576 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 7: not correctly waiting the senior vote. And it's the same mistake, 577 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 7: I mind you, that they made in twenty twenty and 578 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 7: in twenty sixteen, but more especially in twenty twenty when 579 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 7: they were looking at how Biden and Trump were going 580 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 7: to do. It was the same exact group. Because liberal seniors, 581 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 7: older liberals who like listen Rachel Mattow every day and 582 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 7: thinks she's the voice of God, really love to tell 583 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 7: strangers their opinions on Donald Trump. 584 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 6: Ryan, if you had to assess whether the Kamala campaign 585 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 6: is based on the data aware that they are behind, 586 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 6: they obviously won't say that. 587 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: Is it clear enough? 588 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 6: You think that even that they would know, even if 589 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 6: they won't say it publicly, that they're trailing. And also, 590 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 6: what's your assessment of Kamala with women? 591 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 7: So that's a really great question about Kamala of women, 592 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 7: because the perception out in the media, and I guess 593 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 7: the perception for even myself as a voter, was that 594 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 7: Kamala is going to break all these numbers with women, 595 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 7: record breaking support among women. And I decided on the 596 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 7: Substack national populist newsletter Substack to break down all the polling, 597 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 7: and I broke it down between two sets of polls 598 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 7: polls that have Kamala surging with more than a four 599 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: percent margin of victory nationwide and polls that have a 600 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 7: very very close election, And shockingly, Kamala performs with women 601 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 7: the same exact way. In both sets of polls. She 602 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 7: beats Donald Trump on average by fifteen points, no matter 603 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 7: if the race shows at being very tied or the 604 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 7: race shows that kam Wala blowout the polling. The polling 605 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 7: difference is not among women. She does not perform any 606 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 7: better with women than Joe Biden did or Hillary Clinton did. 607 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 7: It's they both had about a fifteen point margin over 608 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 7: Donald Trump in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, respectively. So 609 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 7: she is not winning over many new women voters. This 610 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 7: whole perception that there's this army of pro choice women 611 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 7: who never voted before and they're voting for the very 612 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 7: first time. That one isn't true historically, but true, it's 613 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 7: not even in the data this time. The entire difference 614 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 7: is among men. The big question is is Donald Trump 615 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 7: going to perform his Joe Biden numbers among men when 616 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 7: he won men by a four point margin or somewhere 617 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 7: around there, or is going to perform among men like 618 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 7: he did against Hillary Clinton, which was at eleven point margin. 619 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 7: That's the entire really difference. And they break into different 620 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 7: subcategories like black men, Hispanic men, YadA, YadA, YadA. But 621 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 7: it's the question of men is how well is Donald 622 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 7: Trump performed with men? Is this the men the main election? 623 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 7: Because with women it seems fairly unchanged completely. When it 624 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 7: comes to the voting data, look, we're starting to see 625 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 7: early votes come in. A lot of states do not 626 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 7: have voter registration by political party, like Virginia. Virginia has 627 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 7: already had one hundred and fifty thousand people vote in it, 628 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 7: but we don't know if the Republicans or Democrats because 629 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 7: they don't register voters by party. We just know if 630 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 7: their conservative districts or their liberal districts. And a lot 631 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 7: of conservative districts voting. Early voting turnout is over one 632 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 7: hundred percent of where it was in twenty twentieth this time, 633 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 7: and in some liberal districts they have hit that point 634 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 7: and they've even surpassed it, like in fair Fact City. 635 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 7: But what we're looking at right now is a lot 636 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 7: of mail in data, and the mail in data in 637 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 7: the ballot requests in Pennsylvania, Democrats are down fairly large. 638 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 7: The numbers are about four percentage points than they were 639 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 7: back in twenty twenty. In North Carolina they were down 640 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 7: a big, big, big time. As far as people with 641 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 7: early mailer ballot requests, does that mean that they won't 642 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 7: vote at all because they didn't get the early ballot requests? 643 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 7: I don't know. But the early ballot requests for Democrats 644 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 7: where they're going to mail in tons of votes and 645 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 7: basically have these votes ready to account it on election day, 646 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 7: that doesn't look like it's happening so far. 647 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: We're talking to Ryan Gardusky. Okay, two parter here for you. 648 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: Ryan Buck and I both believe that Joe Biden is 649 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: going to outperform Kamala. That is, Biden's twenty twenty numbers 650 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: are going to outperform Kamalas twenty twenty four numbers. I'm 651 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: curious if you would agree with that. That's nationwide, not 652 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: on an individual state basis. Second part of this question, 653 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: if you had to place a wager right now, would 654 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: you place a wager on Trump to win in twenty 655 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: twenty four based on the data analytics as you see it, 656 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 3: or would you place a wager on Kamala to win. 657 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: It's too I think, kind of essence of the election questions. 658 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: But first, how will Kamala do compared to Biden. 659 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 7: Well, she's almost certain to get lower because Trump's numbers 660 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 7: have basically been stagnant. I think he got forty six 661 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 7: point two percent the first time, forty six point eight 662 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 7: percent the second time. Trump's numbers are fairly fixed. I 663 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 7: have a very difficult time seeing how if you voted 664 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 7: for him in sixteen, and how you voted for him 665 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 7: in twenty that to all of a sudden, you're not 666 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 7: going to vote for him in twenty four. That's when 667 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 7: they show these huge swings away from college educated whites. 668 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 7: I think to myself, and now I don't have any 669 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 7: data to prove this, but I think he when forty 670 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 7: four percent of that group in two straight elections. I 671 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 7: don't really see how many of them are going to 672 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 7: sit there and be like, oh, you know, this third 673 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 7: time that got gone, you know, a bridge too far. 674 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 7: So she's most certainly going to be doing worse. The 675 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 7: question is how much of the independent vote, the third 676 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 7: party vote is going to be taken up of her. 677 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 7: Of her numbers the third party vote was detrimental to 678 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 7: Hillary in twenty sixteen, there was a much smaller part 679 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 7: of it, and a lot of those anti Hillary voters 680 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 7: just went to o'biden. I would say She's probably run 681 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 7: forty nine percent in the polls, and Trump's are forty 682 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 7: seven or forty eight percent, but that's really where it is. 683 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 7: So yeah, she'll be much lower. She'll be lower by 684 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 7: a good point point and a half percent. What Buck 685 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 7: was saying in the previous segment of Hispanic support increasing 686 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 7: or Black support increasing. If the numbers are real and 687 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 7: Hispanic supporters are increasing, you may see a situation where 688 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 7: New York or Los Angeles are significantly tighter, but that 689 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 7: does not bear out into an electoral victory. The only 690 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 7: state that really matters right now is Pennsylvania, because if 691 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 7: Trump wins North Carolina and Georgia, as he's favored to, 692 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 7: Pennsylvania flips the entire map. So judging based on Pennsylvania, 693 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 7: I think based on the Mullerberg poll that just was 694 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 7: released and the Washington Post poll, and I think of 695 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 7: the era in the New York Times poll, I think 696 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 7: I would say Trump, in my opinion, is probably favored 697 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 7: to win Pennsylvania, not by much. It's not going to 698 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 7: be a landslide, but that number in Pennsylvania would give 699 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 7: him the electoral college two seventy he needs. 700 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 6: And who would the votes be he assuming Trump is 701 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 6: ahead and does end up winning in Pennsylvania, Ryan, is 702 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 6: it again that basically white guys, white guys who are 703 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 6: non college educated, who are the difference makers. 704 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 7: You're gonna see an uptick in places like Yes One. 705 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 7: The white vote in Pennsylvania matters immensely, especially the senior vote. 706 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 7: But you see the numbers and registrations moving significantly. I 707 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 7: think in one county they say there's four thousand more 708 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 7: registered people that they've not tabulated yet. You're going to 709 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 7: see Trump uppick in Hispanic cities and secondary cities like Redding, 710 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 7: like Lancaster, like Bethlehem. These are huge Hispanic populations. They 711 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 7: experienced fifteen to twenty point swings from sixteen to twenty. 712 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 7: You'll see that again, probably maybe at a smaller level, 713 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 7: but you'll still see an upswing in those areas. You 714 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 7: won't see the numbers coming out of Pittsburgh and Philly 715 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 7: that I think people are expecting to sit there and 716 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 7: see and then Trump is going to have to do 717 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 7: his sixteen numbers in rural counties and manage to have 718 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 7: enough medium to big size county victories Eerie County, Landcaster County, 719 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 7: York County to upset and upstage the numbers coming out 720 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 7: of the coller counties Delaware County, for example, or Montgomery County. 721 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 7: Montgomery County is the big one. It's it's an absolute 722 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 7: Republican killer, is Montgomery County. So if if Kamala breaks 723 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 7: out of Montgomery County with you know, a forty forty 724 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 7: five point victory, that would be a very very hard 725 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 7: number to overcome. 726 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 5: But this is the Virginia stuff. 727 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 6: By the way Ryan started started to interpret at the end, 728 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 6: this is really I'm very curious. Virginia seems much closer 729 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 6: than a lot of people would have anticipated at this point. 730 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 6: I believe Governor Youngkin has a sixty percent approval rating 731 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 6: in the state, which the Republican in state like Virginia 732 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 6: is really solid. Is Virginia a long shot for Trump 733 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 6: or is it not a shot for Trump? 734 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 7: It's still a long shot because of how the liberal 735 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 7: counties outside of Washington, DC, those super blue counties Fairfax 736 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 7: for example, had four times the amount of early voters 737 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four for the first day of early voting, 738 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 7: then they did in twenty twenty However, the Red counties, 739 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 7: the Red counties in smaller areas, they're experiencing overall one 740 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 7: hundred percent increase in early voter turnout. So it's not 741 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 7: like just the left is mobilized and the right is 742 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 7: and they both are equally mobilized. We have to just 743 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 7: see where those key demographics are breaking. How much are 744 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 7: hispanics breaking, are Black men breaking, and how much are 745 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 7: men period breaking? Because the women numbers are very, very 746 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 7: fairly even as I said the top of the segment, 747 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 7: the women numbers aren't where it's moving. It's about men. 748 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 7: Do men come out for Trump in the numbers at 749 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 7: some of the polls that say it's a tied election, 750 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 7: do or do they kind of la are their lackluster? 751 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 7: Are the Joe Biden levels where they underperform what expectations 752 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 7: or hopes would be from the trumpet. 753 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: We're talking to Ryan Gardeski. By the way, My theory 754 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 3: on that is just there's a lot of people fed 755 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: up with election advertising and as soon as they can 756 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: get their vote in, whether it's red or blue. They 757 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 3: just want to get the ballots done, and then they're like, 758 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 3: I'm out, I'm not paying attention to this anymore. That's 759 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 3: one theory that I have. Okay, Ryan, question for you, 760 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: will we get any data prior to election day that 761 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: you think could be important in giving it us an indication? 762 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: You mentioned early voting in Virginia. Is there any state 763 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: where we're going to get data that's reliable in any 764 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: way to kind of give us a sense for what 765 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: might be coming prior to election day? Is there anything 766 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: you're waiting for or watching for. 767 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 7: So the Republican early vote right now in Pennsylvania's twenty 768 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 7: six percent. It was lower, I think it was maybe 769 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 7: twenty seven percent, but the Democratic vote went from seventy 770 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 7: to sixty three. So I think those are the numbers. 771 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 7: They're roughly around the numbers. So the numbers in the 772 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 7: early mail in votes in Pennsylvania are five points more 773 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 7: fareable to Republicans than they were four years ago. I 774 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 7: want to see where that trend is moving. If Republicans 775 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 7: can easily cross thirty or maybe thirty one percent and 776 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 7: Democrats in full under sixty percent, that's an extremely extremely 777 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 7: good sign for Trump he's winning in the early mail 778 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 7: in ballot request and a number of small counties. I 779 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 7: also want to see partially where the Amish counties are heavily. 780 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 7: Amish areas are pulling up because they apparently I'm this 781 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 7: big and get out the vote effort on the part 782 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 7: of Amish voters. Pennsylvania is where it's all at. So 783 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 7: that's why I want to see Pennsylvania's early ballad request. 784 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 7: There's already a million. I want to see how far 785 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 7: it goes and how high percentage wise Republicans go up 786 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 7: and Democrats go down. 787 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 2: Ryan appreciate the time. 788 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: I man encourage all of you to go follow Ryan 789 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: on Twitter, by the way, and even mentioned it. Great 790 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 3: job of late on CNN. It's been fun to see 791 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 3: you taking a sore into some of these awful arguments. 792 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 3: So you've been killing it there. 793 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 7: Pank you hell Ya appreciate. 794 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 3: So check out check out Ryan's work at at a 795 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: substaff and go follow in on social media. We'll share 796 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: that certainly on clayanbuck dot com. Thanks Ryan, thank you. 797 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact with 798 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. 799 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 800 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. We roll through the Friday. 801 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: Edition of the show. 802 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 3: If some of you were looking for things to check 803 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 3: out this weekend, maybe you're not going to be like 804 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: me watching a ton of college football, including the Georgia 805 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 3: Alabama game. Maybe you want to balance out your football 806 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: viewing with some documentary viewing. It is a good way 807 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: to spend your time. And the movie is called Vindicating 808 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: Trump and it is by Denesh Desuza. Denesh, appreciate you 809 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 3: coming on with us. Why don't you just make the pitch? 810 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 3: Why should people watch this? What will they learn? What 811 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 3: surprised you while making this film? 812 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: If anything? 813 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 11: I began with the premise that Donald Trump is a 814 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 11: very strange figure because he is so intensely loved and 815 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 11: so intensely hated. There's one group of people that would 816 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 11: be willing to take a bullet for him, and there's 817 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 11: another group of people that will cheer, maybe silently cheer, 818 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 11: when someone tries to put a bullet in. You have 819 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 11: to like go back to Lincoln to find a figure 820 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 11: who is produces this kind of disparate reaction. So how 821 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 11: do you explain it? What is it about Trump that 822 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 11: causes some people to become undyingly loyal to him, and 823 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 11: other people to hate him with such a passion that 824 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 11: they will stop at nothing to get rid of him, 825 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 11: all the way from character assassination to political assassination to 826 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 11: law fair, which is a kind of legal assassination, to well, 827 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 11: now we have two actual assassination attempts. So what we 828 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 11: do in this film, the centerpiece of the film is 829 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 11: a one on one with Trump, in which I set 830 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 11: myself the task of trying to bring out a certain 831 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 11: hidden or private dimension of his personality and character that 832 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 11: he himself tries not to show you. He has a 833 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 11: kind of a manly aversion to showing you his his feelings, 834 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 11: his vulnerability, even the way that his inner mind works. 835 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 11: And so I try very hard, and I think I 836 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 11: succeed in this film and showing you an aspect of 837 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 11: Donald Trump that hasn't been widely seen. 838 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 6: Speaking of Denessh Desuza vindicating Trump as his movie out 839 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 6: in theaters now in Denesh. To that end, my understanding 840 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 6: is Alena Haba and Laura Trump, his daughter in law, 841 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 6: feature pretty prominently to present some of that broader picture 842 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 6: of Trump. And one thing that Clay and I from 843 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 6: our interactions with him professionally and denish, I can tell 844 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 6: you I met Trump in New York the first time. 845 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 6: I think I was thirteen years old. I knew his 846 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 6: kids a little bit growing up in the city, and 847 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 6: I've talked to him, you know, many times since then. 848 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 6: He is actually a very warm and engaging and charismatic guy, 849 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 6: particularly in person. 850 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 11: This is a key point, Buck, because you know, Trump 851 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 11: has certain public qualities and in fact is kind of famous, 852 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 11: and this some people off. He's very egotistical in public. 853 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 11: You know, his economy isn't just good, it's like the 854 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 11: best economy ever. His crowds aren't simply big, they're like 855 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 11: bigger than any crowd ever assembled in human history. So 856 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 11: when people listen to that, they think, well, this guy 857 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 11: must be totally insufferable. But not really. In private, he's 858 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 11: self deprecating. Is he pays attention to you. Even though 859 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 11: he seems in some senses in public to be a 860 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 11: kind of a bully. He never bullies people who are 861 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 11: beneath him. You'll never see him bully a waiter or 862 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 11: bully a doorman in one of his hotels. He only 863 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 11: bullies other eight hundred pound gorillas and usually ones that 864 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 11: are trying to get them. And then the other thing 865 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 11: is that Trump has the supreme virtue of courage. Any 866 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 11: other Republican facing ninety one criminal charges would have long 867 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 11: well facing two criminal charges, would have long fled from 868 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 11: the field. Trump not only hangs in there, he does 869 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 11: his own legal ropodope. He ignores orders, somehow he pushes forward. 870 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 11: And then look at his spectacular reaction to the two 871 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 11: assassination attempts. I don't think there's a man alive who 872 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 11: would have responded to either assassination attempt and the way 873 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 11: that Trump did. 874 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: We talked about a denesh right after it happened that 875 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 3: even in a Hollywood movie, the person playing president of 876 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 3: the United States would not have been as much of 877 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 3: a badass as Trump was right after that first assassination attempt. 878 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 3: And what you said, I think is so important. Buck 879 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 3: and I have been fortunate to get to know Trump 880 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 3: behind the scenes. I mean, we've had him on the 881 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 3: show a bunch seven or eight times, but we've gotten 882 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 3: to do that at mar A Lago, We've gotten to 883 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 3: do that at Bedminster. And I'll just give you two examples. 884 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 3: I bet that will connect with you based on this movie, 885 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 3: and I would encourage people to go see it. 886 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 2: One buck. 887 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 3: Do you remember when his granddaughter came in at Bedminster 888 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: and he wanted her to go out. She now has 889 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 3: committed to the University of Miami. But he was such 890 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: a normal, every day grandpa. It was just so striking 891 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 3: to me how excited he was to take her out 892 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 3: golfing with him. And you would have never known that 893 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 3: he was the president of the United States formerly, or 894 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 3: that he was running for president of the United States. 895 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 3: His full attention was on her and wanting to know 896 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: how her golf game was going, and wanting to get 897 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 3: out and play with her. The other one, and we've 898 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 3: talked about it on the show, but for people out 899 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 3: there who say, oh my goodness, he's Hitler Denash, you 900 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 3: talked about his ability to focus on people and think 901 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 3: about them. When we finished the last mar A Lago interview, 902 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 3: both of our wives were there and our staff. He 903 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 3: insisted that we take milkshakes with us for the drive 904 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 3: back to Miami from mar A Lago because mar A 905 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 3: Lago had the best milkshakes on the planet, and he 906 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 3: was afraid that. 907 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,720 Speaker 2: We hadn't had anything to eat. 908 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 3: I just the guy is actually really charismatic and very 909 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 3: likable one on one. And also, I would say d 910 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 3: Nash and I bet you saw this with the family 911 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 3: as well. The kids all seem to really adore grandkids 912 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 3: seem to adore him. It's hard to be an awful 913 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 3: person if your kids and your grandkids like you. 914 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 11: Right, Absolutely true, And we do bring out one reason 915 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 11: to have Laura Trump in the program was to have 916 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 11: her talk about this kind of personal side of Trump, 917 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 11: you know, with regard to Trump being a hitler or 918 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 11: a dictator. And by the way, that's the kind of 919 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 11: poisonous rhetoric that convinces would be assassins. Hey, I can 920 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 11: be a hero if I take this guy out, you know. 921 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 11: But the left really says that about him. And yet 922 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 11: what did he do that was dictatorial in his first term. 923 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 11: I mean, he had the opportunity. If he was going 924 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 11: to be a dictator, you think he would have shown 925 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 11: his dictatorial colors. How many prominent Democrats did he indict, prosecute, 926 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 11: lock up? None? So there's no dictatorial stuff coming out 927 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 11: of Trump. 928 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 10: Now. 929 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 11: Trump will joke and say things like, well, I won't 930 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 11: be a dictator, but maybe on the first day now 931 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 11: this guy, this is a shtick. He's a little bit 932 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 11: of a stand up comedian. And for anyone to take 933 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 11: that seriously, there you go. He said he's going to 934 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 11: be a dictator. He said it himself. I mean this 935 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 11: is called pretending to take Trump in a completely different sense, 936 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 11: in which he means normal words, and the dictatorial threat 937 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 11: is coming from the other side. I mean, if you 938 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 11: look at the signature features of totalitarian societies, they have 939 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 11: mass surveillance, they have widespread censorship, they have criminalization of 940 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 11: political differences, political prisoners, trying to lock up the leader 941 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 11: of the opposition party. Well, guess what, it's the Democrats 942 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 11: that are doing all of that. So they accuse Trump 943 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 11: of being a dictator, but I think what they really 944 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 11: mean is that he is the guy that they fear 945 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 11: will foil their dictatorial schemes. 946 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 6: I'll at clanbuck dot com now you can watch the 947 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 6: trailer for Denesh's movie Vindicating Trump and Denesh. I do 948 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 6: think part of what has pushed some very prominent, very wealthy, 949 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 6: and influential Silicon Valley folks. I think this was part 950 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 6: of Elon's move right as well. You know, there are 951 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,720 Speaker 6: a few things but has been the lawfair against Trump, 952 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 6: because anybody who understands how totalitarian societies work, anyone who 953 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 6: understands how free societies on the other side have to work, 954 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 6: I think, recognizes that they didn't just discover all these 955 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 6: crimes that Trump committed in the seventy sixth year of 956 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 6: his life, never having had been charged with any crime 957 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 6: for seventy six years. It's clearly lawfair, and if lawfair 958 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 6: is the future of this country, we actually don't have 959 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 6: rule of law. 960 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 11: This is a critical point. I've been reading Selganned since 961 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 11: Gulag Archipelago, and he talks about what he calls the 962 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 11: Vishinski doctrine, which is this is the one that the 963 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 11: Soviets used. Vishinsky is this guy who basically said, listen, 964 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 11: we since we aren't resent when something happens, or crime happens, 965 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 11: we can never be absolutely sure, so we shouldn't try 966 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 11: to be absolutely sure. What we basically want to do 967 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 11: is basically figure out we can use some fairly elastic rules, 968 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 11: the manipulation of bending of laws to basically get what 969 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 11: we want out of this trial, out of this process, 970 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 11: and think about it, That's exactly what the Democrats do. 971 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 11: They shop around for a blue jurisdiction, they find a 972 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 11: kind of vengeful mob of jurors who kind of want 973 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 11: to get Trump in the first place. They find a 974 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 11: sympathetic judge, so it becomes a wink wink operation between 975 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 11: the judge and the prosecution. So, you know, to the 976 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 11: naive American, they might think, well, there's an actual court. 977 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 11: It looks like a court. You know, they're following the 978 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 11: outward trappings of law. Objections sustained, and therefore it must 979 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 11: be a legitimate process. No, it's not a legitimate process. 980 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 11: And anyone who's looking closely can see that they're going 981 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 11: after Trump for things that they would never go after 982 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 11: anyone else. Of course, one interesting question is why Trump, 983 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 11: Like why only Trump? Why is he the very scary guy? 984 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 11: And I think the answer is that he is a 985 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 11: very strong guy. This came out in the courage that 986 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 11: he displayed with the assassination attempts. Other Republicans are much 987 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 11: more weak need than Trump. So the Democrats don't fear Romney, 988 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 11: they don't fear Paul Ryan. What they do fear is Trump. 989 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: Denesh I've said that the most important decision Trump would 990 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 3: have to make if he wins is who he picks 991 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 3: his attorney general. For what you're laying out here, I'm 992 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 3: a lawyer. I believe you're a lawyer as well. What 993 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,280 Speaker 3: has been allowed to occur with our Department of Justice 994 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 3: and the targeting of political adversaries has never occurred in 995 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 3: the history of any of our lives, and frankly, never 996 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 3: really in the history of the United States. How do 997 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 3: we get back some measure of trust in our Department 998 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 3: of Justice? And do you agree with me that who 999 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 3: Trump picks as his attorney general might well be his 1000 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 3: most consequential pick of all when it comes to stocking 1001 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 3: his cabinet and his administration. 1002 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 11: I agree completely. And my solution to it is somewhat controversial, 1003 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 11: I will admit. And here's what it is. It is 1004 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 11: essentially the solution of how do you tame a rogue 1005 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 11: operation a kind? How do you tame a bully in 1006 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 11: a schoolyard? And the answer is you can't do it 1007 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 11: unless you ambush the bully, unless you respond in kind, 1008 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 11: unless you show the bully that bullying tactics don't pay off. 1009 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 11: You might remember when Elon Musk banned some leftist journalists 1010 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 11: on Twitter on x for one single day if you 1011 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 11: watch the reaction when that happened, Suddenly all these people 1012 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 11: who were champions of censorship and champions of shutting down 1013 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 11: disinformation and removing millions of accounts, they became great defenders 1014 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 11: of free speech. I mean they were quoting the First Amendments, 1015 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 11: citing John Stuart Mill. So the moment their free speech 1016 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 11: was threatened, they rediscovered the value of the principle. So 1017 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 11: I think that the way to ultimately force the left 1018 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 11: to stop doing this kind of stuff is to start 1019 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 11: doing it to them. 1020 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 3: It's basically why we have nuclear weapons in multiple countries, right, 1021 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 3: there has to be a deterrence and a threat factor 1022 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 3: or else whoever the most powerful is just keeps doing 1023 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 3: whatever they. 1024 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 2: Want exactly right. 1025 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 11: And there are many laws, by the way, I'm not 1026 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 11: talking about unleashing some sort of plague of lawlessness. There 1027 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 11: are for example, in the Rico Statutes, it says that 1028 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 11: anyone who is involved in any way in collaborating or 1029 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 11: participating in an election fraud scheme is committing a serious felony. 1030 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 11: Now my point is, all right, so let's take a 1031 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 11: look at that. Generally, Republican attorneys general take a look 1032 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 11: at that. They go, well, This hasn't really been used, 1033 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 11: so we're not going to focus on it. Let it 1034 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 11: be the Democrats of pulling out every opportunity from the 1035 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 11: Large Accordion Book of Federal Statutes to go after conservatives. 1036 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 11: But they got to realize the two can play at 1037 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 11: this game. 1038 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 2: No doubt. 1039 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 3: Denesh Desuza, the book is the document to Revindicating Trump. 1040 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 2: Encourage all of you to go check it out. 1041 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and fifty theaters nationwide, many different ways to 1042 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: be consuming it. To Nash, we appreciate the time, good 1043 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 3: luck with the film. 1044 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 11: If I could say so, guys. Vindicating Trump dot com 1045 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 11: is sort of the one stop shop to get tickets. 1046 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 11: You put in your city or your town and boom, 1047 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 11: the theaters will pop right up. See it this weekend 1048 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 11: if you can