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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: It kicks off right now. Mister Clay is in transit,

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Speaker 2: so he is in the sky. I will be your

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Speaker 2: solo pilot for the next three hours. My co pilot

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Speaker 2: is on another plane. But we've got a lot to

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Speaker 2: talk about. He'll be back tomorrow. We'll actually be together

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Speaker 2: here in South Florida doing the show. And in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: I want to bring you up to speed on all

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Speaker 2: of the things that are happening out there right now,

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Speaker 2: so many of them, so many things, so many things happening.

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Speaker 2: You had DHS Secretary Nome up on Capitol Hill, you

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Speaker 2: have business leaders talking to Trump about the state of

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Speaker 2: the economy and this affordability question. Some people are concerned,

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Speaker 2: and I mean people on our side, capitalists, reasonable intelligent people,

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Speaker 2: concerned about how things are looking going into the end

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Speaker 2: of the year here and what it will mean for

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Speaker 2: the mid terms. Now, for those who are saying the

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Speaker 2: concern should be fix the economy, not the political consequences

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Speaker 2: of problems in the economy, well let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: It's getting a lot worse. If Democrats can throw sand

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Speaker 2: in the gears of the Trump administration. If they can

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Speaker 2: play spoiler just by having a majority in the House,

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Speaker 2: we will get to impeachment number three.

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Speaker 1: It will be a.

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Speaker 2: Circus, the whole thing. So it is important that we

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Speaker 2: get into a good place here and also that the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration continues to tell everybody what the plans are

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Speaker 2: more on immigration and ice enforcement as well. We've got

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Speaker 2: some important sound to share with you, some some clips

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Speaker 2: to share with you on that. I'm going to start

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Speaker 2: off actually with a little bit of talk on the economy.

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Speaker 2: There's there's news today that we will dive into shortly

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Speaker 2: about a Fed judge now saying that Kilmar Abrego Garcia,

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Speaker 2: the alleged MS thirteen gang member who for over a

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Speaker 2: year now has been at the center of all these

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Speaker 2: administration efforts to deport this guy, and it's turned into

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Speaker 2: a huge political football. This has turned into a Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court weighing in. God got sound to al Salvador. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna send him a bunch of other countries, but then

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Speaker 2: we can. And now you've got a federal judge saying

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Speaker 2: you gotta let him out right now, So we will see.

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Speaker 2: And that's going on while DHS Secretary Nome is up

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Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill, so that's certainly in our sites and

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Speaker 2: an important story. Let's though, just for a bit here,

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Speaker 2: talk about where we stand on the economy. People are concerned,

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Speaker 2: and I hear that concern from many of you that

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Speaker 2: prices are quite high. And I understand the challenge here

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Speaker 2: is it's really hard to bring down prices once they've

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Speaker 2: gone up considerably, and this is a legacy of the

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Speaker 2: madness of COVID. I think everyone should keep that in mind.

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Speaker 2: That many of us, well not many, some of us.

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Speaker 2: There were even some conservatives who were pretty bad on

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Speaker 2: the COVID stuff, especially on lockdowns and all the rest

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Speaker 2: of it. We're saying, you can't just tell people stay home,

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Speaker 2: don't do anything in print money, and then you can't

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Speaker 2: just spend as much money as you want to juice

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Speaker 2: the economy after that shutdown. Unfortunately, that is largely what happened,

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Speaker 2: and we are still dealing with the reality of that.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I will give you some of these details, or we

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Speaker 2: will discuss some of these details. But first up here CNBC,

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Speaker 2: this is cut eleven Rick Santelli. He's talking some numbers,

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Speaker 2: talking trade deficit. Let's hear from the man over at

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Speaker 2: CNBC play it.

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Speaker 3: Trade balance fifty two point eight billion. That's a better

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Speaker 3: lower trade deficit than we expected. We were looking for

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Speaker 3: a number closer to sixty two billion, and that follows

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Speaker 3: going back. Well, my records go back to nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 3: and to find a smaller number than minus fifty two billion,

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Speaker 2: So this is important because Trump is establishing a rebalancing

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Speaker 2: of our global trade, America's global trade with the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: And as I've said all along, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: But people are changing their tune on this. They're seeing

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Speaker 2: I live in Miami Beaches, you know, and that's next

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Speaker 2: it was a combination of two things that we're going

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Speaker 2: The cost of stuff, particularly housing young people came out.

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Speaker 2: Miami has become incredibly expensive as a city. It used

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Speaker 1: Now not so much.

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Speaker 2: But the price of things, especially housing in Miami is

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Speaker 2: very high, so that factors in. We saw this also

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Speaker 2: built around the promise of bringing housing prices down. He's

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Speaker 2: you know anything about economics, you know that his solutions

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Speaker 2: to these problems will actually make things worse. But they

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Speaker 2: sound good, and you can get a lot of power

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Speaker 2: by saying things that sound good, no matter how bad

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Speaker 2: the results are actually going to be. One of the

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Speaker 2: issues we're going to have is that going into a

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Speaker 2: midterm year, right, It's we're at the end of year

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Speaker 2: one of Trump's second term. Yeah, a lot of us

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Speaker 2: can point to the status of the Biden economy and

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Speaker 2: what was going on, but that is not going to

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Speaker 2: Former SEC chair Jay Clayton had this to say about

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Speaker 2: the economy. I thought you should hear this. This is

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Speaker 1: The affordability issue is.

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Speaker 3: But from the twenty two percent increase in prices in

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Speaker 3: inflation under.

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Speaker 1: Biden, there's this full stop right there.

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Speaker 2: That's the affordability issue, and you got to be able.

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Speaker 1: To explain that, right, that's right.

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Speaker 4: And look, I think that with the economic team President

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Speaker 4: Trump and the economic team led by Scott Dessa, you

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Speaker 4: have people who very much understand us. And it was

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Speaker 4: a they were thrown You know what, I would say,

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Speaker 4: the worst economy for the average American in my adult

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Speaker 4: lifetime in terms of the like you said, the incredible

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Speaker 2: This is true, and the case has to be made,

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Speaker 2: but it is not sufficient on its own.

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Speaker 1: All of you who.

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Speaker 2: Call in, write in and say, hey guys, hey Clay,

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Speaker 2: hey Buck, this stuff is just too expensive where I am,

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Speaker 2: particularly healthcare, housing, education, these things are just the price

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Speaker 2: but groceries, gas prices are down, but many of you

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Speaker 2: and the truckers out there, we love our truckers, are

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Speaker 2: saying diesel prices are still considerably higher than we would

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Speaker 2: want to see them for a robust economy. Spending at

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Speaker 2: Christmas time I've seen some of the data on this one.

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Speaker 2: Spending at Christmas time seems to be quite a bit down.

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Speaker 2: People are not shelling out the kind of cash that

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Speaker 2: there was tremendous bullions about the economy because of Trump's victory.

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Speaker 2: So that explains in part why last year people were

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Speaker 1: But now it's too full. The challenge ahead on prices.

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Speaker 2: Affordability a word I'm as I've said along, you have

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Speaker 2: to prepare yourself to hear about this more than any

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Speaker 2: for the next few years is going to be largely determined.

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Speaker 1: I think based upon that the two big.

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Speaker 2: Issues it's going to be the affordability and immigration election

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Speaker 2: mid terms. That's what's gonna that's what's gonna move the needle.

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Speaker 2: And this is Republicans are seeing this early enough. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: I'm not having this talk with all of you in

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Speaker 2: it's time to make the case. I think they're actually

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Speaker 2: seeing this in advance. And they have Scott Besson, who

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Speaker 2: the economy, the Fed, all of this is doing. He's

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Speaker 2: But this is what Democrats are gonna hammer. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: hammer the discontent of the prices. Isn't this the most

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Speaker 2: classic move that the Democrats could possibly come up with.

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Speaker 2: They made it so prices get all jacked up. We

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Speaker 2: going back to twenty twenty one, said don't do it, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy. Don't spend the trillions. We've already put a

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Speaker 2: lot of pressure, a lot of heat into the economy

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Speaker 2: with all the shutdown spending. And that was under Trump,

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Speaker 2: but that was both sides were saying, Oh, the world's

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Speaker 2: to the states whether to stay open or not, and

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Speaker 2: with the exception of Florida, states generally did not stay open.

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Speaker 2: as you know, and so we had to do something.

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Speaker 2: There was that whole emergency. But now telling people that

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Speaker 2: the worst inflation in forty years started four years ago.

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Speaker 1: Is not really a.

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Speaker 2: Winning strategy, right or in five years ago, whatever, it's

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Speaker 2: that's not enough. I think that, unfortunately, is going to

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Speaker 2: be insufficient as part of the narrative which brings me

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Speaker 2: to you the solutions and the things that Trump and

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Speaker 2: his team are trying to do. Look at what has

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Speaker 2: happened on Trey alone. That's why I started with that.

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Speaker 2: Look at where he is on tariffs. They said, the

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Speaker 2: so called intelligency and Trump's going to crash the economy

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Speaker 2: based on the tariffs. He's gonna mess everything up. No,

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Speaker 2: in fact, the economy, this stock market has been booming,

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Speaker 2: but prices have remained high. The only way to bring

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Speaker 2: technical about it, technical about it, you got to see

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Speaker 2: a you can have a cessation of demand, or you

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Speaker 2: could have an increase in supply. But the best thing

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Speaker 2: and investment, and that's what will bring prices down. Mandates

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Speaker 2: the Mamdani approach price controls. Price controls not only have

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Speaker 2: absolute mess. And how many people right now even know

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Speaker 2: about the dueling Senate bills? And the Schumer bill is

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Speaker 2: going to just extend the affordable care subsidies. First of all,

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Speaker 2: isn't it funny? Notice a trend here. Democrats call it

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Speaker 2: the Affordable Care Act, and it has without question, there

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Speaker 2: is no counter argument here rooted in numbers, in reality, Okay,

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Speaker 2: it has made healthcare far less affordable. Premiums are up

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Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent. You want to

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Speaker 2: talk about prices, that's something you're gonna be paying every month.

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Speaker 2: That affects by the way, the bottom line, if you

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Speaker 2: own a business or you work for a business, that

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Speaker 2: is affecting everything because you're expected to, you know, you

447
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Speaker 2: gotta have this stuff or you're gonna go bear and

448
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Speaker 2: then you're just gonna deal with the realities of the

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Speaker 2: healthcare system as somebody who's not an illegal alien but

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Speaker 2: doesn't have insurance but could have insurance. And the whole

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Speaker 2: thing is a mess. So what the Democrats want to

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Speaker 2: do is extend the subsidies. Yeah, it is the Unaffordable

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Speaker 2: Care Act. And that's the truth. Just like the Inflation

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Speaker 2: Reduction Act. Remember under Biden they passed the Inflation Reduction Act.

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Speaker 2: Didn't reduce inflation at all. If anything, it increased inflation.

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Speaker 2: And the whole bill really wasn't about inflation anyway, they lie.

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Speaker 2: It is straight out of news speak from Orwell, it

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Speaker 2: is straight out of the propaganda playbook. By the way,

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Speaker 2: great time to check. One portion of Manufacturing Delusion that

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Speaker 2: really the book is in is in thirds. It's brainwashing,

461
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Speaker 2: it's indoctrination, it's propaganda, and it's stories and hit stories

462
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Speaker 2: from my life and history about these things. So the

463
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Speaker 2: back third of the book is about propaganda. Go buy

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Speaker 2: this book Manufacturing Delusion. I really mean this. It is

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Speaker 2: worth all of you reading. And you know, I would

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Speaker 2: not say that. People say, Buck, you've been doing this

467
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Speaker 2: fifteen years, why haven't you written a book before? Because

468
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Speaker 2: I wanted to write a book that I cared about.

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Speaker 2: I was going to write it, I had the time

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Speaker 2: to write it, and I had the ability to make

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Speaker 2: the book matter because of this platform, because of this

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Speaker 2: radio show, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, which

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Speaker 2: I share with my main man who's up in the

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Speaker 2: sky right now on a plane. He's okay, But Clay,

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Speaker 2: that gives me the ability to have the critical mass

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Speaker 2: where it's It was worth the time because I didn't

477
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Speaker 2: want to do it.

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Speaker 1: Like how I am defeating the Libs. Buck's way to

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Speaker 1: defeat the.

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Speaker 2: Libs and you know, and pay someone else to write

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Speaker 2: some book that I'm gonna v hawk And I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't call out names. People do their

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Speaker 2: own thing, but they're just saturating those saturating the conservative

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Speaker 2: book market with forgettable you know, slop written by somebody else.

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Speaker 2: That's what's been going on in recent years. Just the truth,

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Speaker 2: you know it. I researched, I wrote. I put this

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Speaker 2: book together because I think it matters. I think that

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Speaker 2: the manipulation of minds to political ends, the creation of

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Speaker 2: mass delusion, the playbook to do it, is the scariest.

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Speaker 1: Thing we face.

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Speaker 2: Yes, COVID, of course is a type or the you know,

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Speaker 2: the pinnacle example that comes to mind for many, but

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Speaker 2: there are so many examples of this that play out.

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Speaker 2: There are so many aspects of this in our politics today.

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Speaker 1: People believe in all kinds of insane stuff, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: We are increasingly in a world where, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you're not saying the most inflammatory conspiratorial people think that

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Speaker 2: you're like a sellout. Well, what I always want to

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Speaker 2: say to people is how often are we wrong on

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Speaker 2: this show? How often have I had to come to

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Speaker 2: you or Clay and say, Look, we make predictions, and

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Speaker 2: we like to joke around about that although a lot

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Speaker 2: of our predictions, you know, end up coming true. So

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Speaker 2: but but I'm talking about telling you something that is

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Speaker 2: fact or that we know to be true. Then we

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Speaker 2: go actually, or we're really we missed that one in

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Speaker 2: a big way.

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Speaker 1: We tell you.

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Speaker 2: We we speak to you on this show in the

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Speaker 2: same way and with the same respect that I speak

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Speaker 2: to my closest friends and my family members about these issues. Again,

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Speaker 2: that is our currency with you, that authenticity, that integrity

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Speaker 2: that we bring to the show. I do it and

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Speaker 2: Clay does it. And this is why, honestly, why we

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Speaker 2: get along so well on the air and off the air,

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Speaker 2: because we are completely united in that mission. And yes,

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Speaker 2: it's the continuation, it's the the honoring of Russia's legacy

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Speaker 2: because Rush did that before. But That's what all this

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Speaker 2: is supposed to be about. It's not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: people who are just you know, sniping at this person

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Speaker 2: or that person with little things on Twitter and getting

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Speaker 2: all nasty with each other. And you're you're a fake,

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Speaker 2: you're a fed, you're you know. No, guys, the communists

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Speaker 2: want to ruin the country. Do you understand they still

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Speaker 2: want to do this? And I know that we've had

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Speaker 2: a year where it feels like we're winning, but that

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Speaker 2: can change in the blink of an eye.

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Speaker 1: It can change in the.

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Speaker 2: Blink of an eye, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about having a rough go of things,

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Speaker 2: A fractured right with an ascendant lunatic AOC mom Donnie

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Speaker 2: left is a very scary country for us. So again,

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Speaker 2: how do we get there? How can people believe this?

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Speaker 2: The book Manufacturing Delusion? Manufacturing Illusion is the book? Please

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Speaker 2: go And I know you say, oh, buck, I'm gonna wait. No,

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Speaker 2: just go get it now and then February it'll arrive

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Speaker 2: at your front door on the day of. And also

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Speaker 2: that you can get the audiobook too. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be recording that in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: but that'll be out on the release date of February seventeenth.

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Speaker 2: I really want all of you to get the book,

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Speaker 2: and I truly mean that. I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 2: ever going to write a book beyond this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This one took me two years and

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Speaker 1: it's not long. You can read the whole thing. It

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Speaker 1: is not a long book either.

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Speaker 2: I think it matters and I want you to read

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Speaker 2: it and you can get There's a link up at

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Speaker 2: clayanbuck dot com. But please go get the book, because,

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Speaker 2: like I said, this is the show. The things that

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Speaker 2: we do are supposed to have purpose, and it's beyond ego,

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Speaker 2: and it's beyond self congratulation and a lot of the

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Speaker 2: stuff that I see going on with the right these days.

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Speaker 2: We got to fix healthcare, we got to fix costs,

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Speaker 2: we got to fix inflation. We have to not just

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Speaker 2: secure the border. We got to ramp up these deportations

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Speaker 2: way more than what we've already seen. I know are

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Speaker 2: working on that, but we have to stay focused. Now

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Speaker 2: is not the time to get into intramural squabbles and

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Speaker 2: lose sight of what really matters. And to that end,

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Speaker 2: I will come back and discuss the Abrago, Garcia and

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Speaker 2: just the overall immigration enforcement picture. Because, like I've said, economy,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be number one the next twelve months.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this economy and how we talk about

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Speaker 2: it and what happens is critical. But also, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: border secure. What do we do about all the people

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Speaker 2: who are here illegally and what that has done to

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Speaker 2: our system? All right, two weeks from today is Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: That's enough time for you to do something really creative

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Speaker 2: for your family. Hear me out on this because I

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Speaker 2: know Clay and I are saying, oh, gifts, Well yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that's getting somebody a leather belt for the fourth

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Speaker 2: year in a row. Not that anybody would do that,

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Speaker 2: but maybe that's happened to one of us. That's like

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Speaker 2: a gift that doesn't have any thought behind it. What

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Speaker 2: about a gift that has tremendous thought behind it, that

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Speaker 2: brings you to a place where you can enjoy cherish

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Speaker 2: memories family members, and also you enjoy the whole process

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Speaker 2: because it makes you think about it. You sit down

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Speaker 2: with your family. Oh, look at this VHS tape, remember this,

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Speaker 2: this school play, remember this family reunion legacy box. My friends,

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Speaker 2: if you have not done a Legacy Box before, this

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Speaker 2: earned the trust of over a million families. Clay and

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Speaker 2: I both have our families in that group. You have

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Speaker 2: entertainment over the Christmas holidays. It's a really fun thing

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Speaker 2: to do. And this is a worth This is a

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Speaker 2: present that has meaning. So get it for yourself, or

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Speaker 6: Sometimes all you can do is laugh. They do a

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Speaker 6: lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay and

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Speaker 6: Buck as they laugh it up in the Klay and

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Speaker 6: Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 6: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Okay Second Hour, Clay and Buck. Let's look at immigration,

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Speaker 2: shall we. Let's jump into the biggest immigration story today.

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Speaker 2: A federal judge has ordered ordered President Trump well the

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Speaker 2: Department of Justice to release kill mar Abrigo Garcia from

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Speaker 2: ICE Immigration and Customs Enforcement from ICE custody.

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Speaker 1: This is Judge Paula Zennis x I.

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Speaker 2: NI S I guess yeah, so he is supposed to

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Speaker 2: be released immediately.

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Speaker 1: Team monitor this one for me. Let me know if

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Speaker 1: in fact.

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Speaker 2: He does get released immediate. I have a feeling the

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Speaker 2: administration it's gonna say. I'm not sure that's how this

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Speaker 2: is going to go. We'll see, but this has been

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Speaker 2: quite a story and the Democrats are going to continue

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Speaker 2: to push very hard on this. Let's just take a

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Speaker 2: little trip down memory lane, shall we. This guy Abrego Garcia,

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Speaker 2: he is the alleged MS thirteen gang member who had

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Speaker 2: an order of deportation against him at some point, wasn't deported,

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Speaker 2: fighting his deportation, all this stuff, and on March fifteenth

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Speaker 2: of this year, he was sent from the US to

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Speaker 2: El Salvador, where he was detained in the Sea Cott,

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Speaker 2: the Center for Terrorism Confinement. And the Supreme Court weighed

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Speaker 2: in on this one, and I believe it was nine

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Speaker 2: to oh and they said, look, you guys, you can't

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Speaker 2: just remove this guy El Salvador and this removal to

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Speaker 2: l Salvador was illegal, so the US then brought him

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Speaker 2: back in.

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Speaker 1: The Trump administration brought him back in.

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Speaker 2: They there's now all this legal wrangling about is he

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Speaker 2: a member of MS thirteen?

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Speaker 1: Is he not?

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Speaker 2: Abrego Garcia says he is not a member of MS thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Now that matters because that gang has been designated a

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Speaker 2: foreign terrorist organization. So from a legal perspective, the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration seeks to treat or now does treat it in

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Speaker 2: some ways MS thirteen like al Qaeda, and this guy

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Speaker 2: is now supposed to be released. There was one point

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Speaker 2: at which at which the Trump administration was trying to

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Speaker 2: remove him to Liberia, Uganda, Ghana or s what Tinny,

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you. We're getting really deep into geography

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Speaker 2: knowledge here with that one. That's one of these really

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Speaker 2: tiny countries in Africa. There's some very very small countries

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Speaker 2: in Africa that are not well known. And yeah, he

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Speaker 2: was not removed to those countries. But that was what

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Speaker 2: was what was happening. Here's what's that issue with all

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Speaker 2: of this. There has been there's gonna be the continued

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Speaker 2: legal fighting over this, and is there a detainee order

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Speaker 2: to our whole immigration system has been turned into a

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Speaker 2: massive scam and a Third World invasion of this country

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Speaker 2: as a result of the misleading of the American people,

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Speaker 2: the taking advantage of the American people and has been

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Speaker 2: largely bipartisan. Democrats have been complete liars and frauds on this,

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Speaker 2: top to bottom. One hundred percent of Democrats are terrible

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Speaker 2: on immigration and.

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Speaker 1: Half of Republicans.

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Speaker 7: I would say in the twenty first century, roughly half

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Speaker 7: of Republicans are pretty terrible on immigration. I think that

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Speaker 7: would be fair me. You know, in recent years the

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Speaker 7: number has changed a lot because.

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Speaker 2: Of Trump, but if you were to take this all

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Speaker 2: the way back to say the year two thousand, you

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Speaker 2: take this back to the Bush era, Republicans have been

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Speaker 2: bad too. So this has been a huge, huge issue

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Speaker 2: and a little bit like where we are with the debt.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not somebody who traffics in despair on this program.

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Speaker 2: Quite the opposite, Right, we talk about the problems, we

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Speaker 2: also talk about the solutions. We look at what's gone wrong,

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Speaker 2: we never forget what's going right. But the immigration situation

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Speaker 2: is a bit like our four are soon to be

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Speaker 2: forty trillion dollars of debt It is massive. It is

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Speaker 2: affecting everything, and I don't know if we're going to

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Speaker 2: be able to fix it. This is just the truth.

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Speaker 2: We're going to try. I certainly am advocating for it.

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Speaker 2: But you hear people like Stephen Miller, who knows this

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Speaker 2: issue and is of sound mind on this issue at

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Speaker 2: the absolute peak. I mean, he's like at the top

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Speaker 2: of his game on immigration. This has cut sixteen. He's

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Speaker 2: pointing out that this issue of immigration, and more specifically

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Speaker 2: legal immigration, it is messing up everything in this country.

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Speaker 2: You cannot bring tens of millions. We don't know the number.

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Speaker 2: I would guess. See whatever I say, you're gonna say, buck,

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Speaker 2: how could you? It's more, it's less most of you

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Speaker 2: would say. I think there are twenty to thirty million

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Speaker 2: illegals in the country right now. Twenty to thirty million,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that's even I think that's like

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Speaker 2: definitely twenty twenty five, and maybe it's thirty thirty five.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot. Tens of millions for sure.

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Speaker 1: The number they were telling us it's eleven million. Please.

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Speaker 2: They let ten million in under Biden and they're planning

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Speaker 2: to never leave. So we know we're in the twenties.

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Speaker 2: I think we're in the thirties. Some of you are

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Speaker 2: gonna say, buck, we're in the forties, mate, But it's

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Speaker 2: definitely twenty thirty millions that we're talking about here. And

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Speaker 2: this is Stephen Miller on what a big issue it

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Speaker 2: is Play sixteen.

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Speaker 8: We mask the impact of immigration every public policy issue

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Speaker 8: we discuss. We talk about test scores. If you subtract

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Speaker 8: immigration out of test scores, all of a sudden, our

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Speaker 8: test scores skyrocket. If you subtract immigration out of healthcare,

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, we don't have near the size

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Speaker 8: of the healthcare challenges our country faces. If you subtract

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Speaker 8: immigration out of public safety, all of a sudden, we

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Speaker 8: don't have by the crime in so many of our cities,

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Speaker 8: issue after issue, we talk about these things that just

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Speaker 8: they just happen to us. The schools just suddenly fail,

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Speaker 8: by the crime just suddenly explodes, the deficit just suddenly skyrockets.

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Speaker 8: These are a result of social policy choices that we

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Speaker 8: made through immigration.

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Speaker 1: It's all true. It's all true now.

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Speaker 2: The way that this issue has been and this is

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Speaker 2: why the Obrago Garcia thing is interfascinating Democrats aclu these types.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, anything to keep a break Goo Garcia.

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Speaker 2: And this guy's in illegal, it's been accused of crimes.

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Speaker 2: He's in illegal.

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Speaker 1: He should go.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is they wanted, whatever it is they have

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Speaker 2: to do, they will do the left the Democrats will

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Speaker 2: do to keep illegals in this country. They want to

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Speaker 2: keep them all. If they could keep them all, they

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Speaker 2: would keep them all. Occasionally and they'll say, what about

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Speaker 2: Obama and all this. Yeah, in order to fool just

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Speaker 2: enough people to stay in power, Democrats will occasionally go

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Speaker 2: through a period of oh, you know, you're right, this

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Speaker 2: is a problem. Oh, maybe we should And what Obama

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Speaker 2: did was change the definition of a deportation such that

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Speaker 2: people who were caught and turned away immediately the border

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Speaker 2: they counted as a deportation. So they were juicing the

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Speaker 2: numbers there. But they were also doing that so they

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Speaker 2: could create the political momentum with the Gang of eight BILLU,

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Speaker 2: with the Gang of the Senate Gang of eight. They

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Speaker 2: were trying to create the political momentum for a mass amnesty,

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Speaker 2: which is and by the way, that's game over. Do

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Speaker 2: you know that the Reagan amnesty the worst thing that

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Speaker 2: Reagan did when he was president. Was the amnesty they

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Speaker 2: did under Eisenhower. The deportation operation there ran I think

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Speaker 2: it was over a million. It was like one point

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Speaker 2: two one point three million in one year deported and

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Speaker 2: that was in nineteen fifty something. So we've been here

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Speaker 2: before and the country at some points has said, you

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Speaker 2: know what, this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go, you gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Also, note people act like it's so oh, you've been

743
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Speaker 2: in America for a year or three years or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It may be.

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Speaker 2: The notion of going back to the country you lived

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Speaker 2: in your whole life until you snuck into this country.

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Speaker 2: It's so horrible, it's so unthinkable. What does that mean? Well, actually,

748
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Speaker 2: it's interesting that Trump is just saying stuff out loud

749
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Speaker 2: that you're you're not supposed to say, you're not allowed

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Speaker 2: to say, but we say it now. There are countries

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Speaker 2: that people want to live it in countries that are crappy,

752
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Speaker 2: this is true. There are cultures that produce countries where

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Speaker 2: people live in security, prosperity, able to achieve some degree

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Speaker 2: of of you know of of relative happiness. And and

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Speaker 2: where are countries where that's just not not going on

756
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Speaker 2: at all, where people.

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Speaker 1: Live a far more Hobbesian. You know, life is British,

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Speaker 1: nasty and short Hobbesian existence, and Somalia is a very

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Speaker 1: very high on that list of of what Hobbes would say.

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Speaker 1: That's a rough place.

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Speaker 2: Here is Trump saying, you know, we should be bringing

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Speaker 2: in more people from countries that produce extremely law abiding,

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Speaker 2: extremely high productivity, aligned with our values, immigrants, that's what

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Speaker 2: we should be doing.

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Speaker 1: This is cut fifteen. This is what Trump says.

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Speaker 9: We had a meeting, and I say, why is it

767
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Speaker 9: we only take people from whole countries?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 9: Why can't we have some people from Norway?

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Speaker 1: Sweet? Just a few?

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Speaker 9: Let us have a few from Denmark.

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Speaker 1: Do you mind sending us with.

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Speaker 9: Your people, send us some nice people, do you mind?

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Speaker 9: But we always take people from Semia, places that are

775
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Speaker 9: a disaster, right, filthy, dirty, discussing, ridden with crime. The

776
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Speaker 9: only thing they're good at is going after ships.

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Speaker 2: You can tell Trump not a fan of Somalia. It's

778
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Speaker 2: definitely seeing black Hawk down a few times. Not a

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Speaker 2: fan of Somolia, and a lot of Somalis aren't either.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talk about the Somali population here in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: There's a tremendous amount of displacement of Somalis into Kenya,

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Speaker 2: which is right next door, which is still a country

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Speaker 2: with a lot of tremendous amount of crime, unfortunately a

784
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Speaker 2: lot of problems, but.

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Speaker 1: The functional country.

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Speaker 2: Notice though, that it's you're not supposed to say we

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Speaker 2: want people from happy, good countries. And you say, well,

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Speaker 2: hold on, I thought our immigration system we have been

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Speaker 2: told all this time that we're.

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Speaker 7: Taking the next founder of Google, and we're this is,

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Speaker 7: you know, immigration doing the jobs Americans won't do, and

792
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Speaker 7: we're a nation of immigrants, and you hear all this propaganda,

793
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Speaker 7: all this stuff all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's supposed the system is supposed to benefit the people.

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Speaker 2: Here is the system is our immigration system in the

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Speaker 2: twenty first century, benefiting those who are already here on

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Speaker 2: a aggregate you know, net net on an aggregate basis,

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Speaker 2: or have we turned into a immigration from third wor

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Speaker 2: world countries welfare ward that we constantly are lied to.

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Speaker 2: And because most of the very poor countries in the

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Speaker 2: world this starts to get into other conversations about immigration

802
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: and about the nation state. Most of the very poor

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00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: countries in the world are non white countries. And so

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Speaker 2: when you start to look at countries that you don't

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00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 2: necessarily want to take a lot of immigrants from because

806
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Speaker 2: they're going to have Again, this is just objective stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's not about not liking the way someone looks. It's

808
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: not about judging someone because of their skin color. It's

809
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: we're making policies to benefit Americans. If you're taking people

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Speaker 2: from countries with high levels of crime and or terrorism,

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Speaker 2: low level of education, do not speak English and have

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Speaker 2: no cultural tie or affinity to America other than we're

813
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: really rich here, and they get to be safe and

814
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Speaker 2: get free stuff. And then, of course, as soon as possible,

815
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Speaker 2: start voting in the directions that will undermine all of that, right,

816
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: start voting for socialism, start voting for Islamism, start voting

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Speaker 2: for whatever. We are told that that's not what's happening,

818
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: but that has been happening, and people are allowed to

819
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: notice that and be upset about it, and the American

820
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: people are allowed to say this baden switch cannot happen anymore.

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Speaker 2: Where you say it is to our benefit, but really

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Speaker 2: it is part of some global dei crusade of we

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Speaker 2: need to have the most.

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Speaker 1: Non white immigration possible.

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Speaker 2: And look, there are lots. There are plenty of countries

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Speaker 2: that are non white countries that.

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Speaker 1: Are wonderful places. People are doing great.

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Speaker 2: You know, I hope ever always is attacking Japan, for example,

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Speaker 2: for its lack of replacement. They've got to have more kids,

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Speaker 2: that's true. But it's an amazing Taiwan, which I just

831
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Speaker 2: came back from. It's an amazing country, phenomenal in so

832
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Speaker 2: many ways, wonderful people, incredibly smart, incredibly civilized. And you know,

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Speaker 2: there are many, many others. There are a lot, a

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Speaker 2: lot of great countries all around the world. Our immigration

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Speaker 2: system is absolutely not set up to prioritize those people.

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Speaker 2: We say, the reality of immigration is kind of the

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Speaker 2: way if you had, like, you know, a Gavin Newsome

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Speaker 2: voting California, you know, wine swilling lib you know, with

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Speaker 2: the Chardonnay glass, and oh, let's take as many people

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Speaker 2: from war torn filling the blank as possible. Cause that'll

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Speaker 2: make me feel I'm gonna live in Beverly Hills, but

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Speaker 2: it'll make me feel good about myself to say that

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Speaker 2: we're going to take as many people from what do

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Speaker 2: they call it in Team America dirka Drkistan, right to

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Speaker 2: take as many people from whatever country is some gee,

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Speaker 2: hottest hell, whole of the moment or whatever, going through

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Speaker 2: some famine or civil war. We're supposed to have a

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Speaker 2: very small percentage of asylum seekers.

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Speaker 1: Look what happened. These millions and millions of people came in.

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Speaker 2: They all say they're here for asylum. They're not here

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Speaker 2: for asylum, They're here for the spoil system. Can we

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Speaker 2: get enough of them to actually go back to their

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Speaker 2: home countries that America can be saved? This is the question.

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Speaker 2: This is where we are, and this is certainly where

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration is on this. But I'm is it

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Speaker 2: too late? We'll see what do you think happens? If

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Speaker 2: a Democrat wins the next election, they're gonna open the

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Speaker 2: flood gates again.

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Speaker 1: Of course, of course they are.

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Speaker 2: If Trump can't get this done with the House in

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Speaker 2: the Senate, who's gonna reverse the flood. We need to

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Speaker 2: We are talking immigration and how this is such a

885
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: critical issue. Go with immigration, so go with the nation.

886
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: I think Ken Trump and his team fix it. You

887
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: had DHS Secretary of Nome on the Hill today, getting

888
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: a whole lot of back and forth with Democrats who

889
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: are trying to get their soundbites, and she is trying

890
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: to make the case, make the case that well, for one,

891
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: Democrats are very dishonest on this issue. Of course that's true,

892
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: and that the Trump administration is acting within the law,

893
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: and that there's going to be a lot more of

894
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: what we have already seen. I certainly hope that's the case.

895
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: In the meantime, over on that CNN show, I think

896
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: it's CNN tonight, right, is that the one or they

897
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: changed them all the time, It doesn't really, it's that

898
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Speaker 2: the one with Abby Phillip whatever they call it.

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Speaker 1: She was talking about this.

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00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: She was talking about the immigration issues that you and

901
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: I are discussing here. And I just want to point

902
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 2: out whenever you start to hear a liberal talk about

903
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: this country and they're the worst on guns, this is

904
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: just kind of funny for those of you, which is

905
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: pretty much not all of you, but a vast, vast

906
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: majority of you who are gun people. Democrats will speak

907
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: about guns and it's like their first day of learning

908
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: Mandarin Chinese, like they just know nothing and they don't care.

909
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: They know nothing.

910
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: They'll talk about chainsaw, bayonets and machine gun, flamethrower, you know,

911
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: laser pods, and they.

912
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: Just have no idea. They just know they want to

913
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: ban them, they want to take them from you. Everything goes.

914
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: When they talk about the history of immigration, they also

915
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: have no idea. They don't know what they're talking about,

916
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: and they leave out very key things, things that we

917
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: need to know today and we need to have people

918
00:51:54,719 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: familiar with in order to have reasonable immigration policy going forward.

919
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: And I think we've reached a point in America where

920
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: the foreign born population is too high, meaning that we

921
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: need to slow things down. It's not a knock on

922
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: anybody who's an immigrant legally, not a knock on anybody's

923
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: background who's an immigrant, or anyone's religion or skin color

924
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: who's an immigrant.

925
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Speaker 1: It's just okay.

926
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Speaker 2: The history of America and its immigration policies has been

927
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: we take in a bunch of people, and then we say, okay,

928
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: we need to let everyone do the America thing for

929
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: a while here, and then all right, we taking in

930
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of people, and then we say, hold on

931
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: a second, it's time to let everybody get to know

932
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: each other. Americanize the new arrivals, and this is now

933
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: something you can talk about. You couldn't even say this

934
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: stuff really ten fifteen years ago without.

935
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how could you. Well, look, what's happening

936
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: in Europe.

937
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: You have large constituencies, including of asylum seekers or refugees

938
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: in Europe in countries who make it very explicit they

939
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: hate the country.

940
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: That I mean when I say hate it. They love

941
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: the welfare, they love that.

942
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: They're now safe and fed and warm and housed and

943
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: all of that courtesy of the host country. But they

944
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: despise the beliefs and the people and the culture and

945
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: everything else. You have this in the UK, you have

946
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: this in Sweden, you have this in the Netherlands. You

947
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: have this in Belgium. You have this in France, you

948
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: have this in Spain. You know, you have Germany. You

949
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: have this in these countries now, large populations of new

950
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: arrivals who are not saying, hey, we're gonna we're gonna

951
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: be there for you, We're gonna do the best stuff

952
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: we had, and we're so grateful, We're so grateful.

953
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Do you get the sense.

954
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: That the illegals that have come into America, who go

955
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: to these protests for example, and create all this this

956
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: spectacle in places like Los Angeles. Remember we saw that

957
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: Trump called it the National Guard. Did they ever speak

958
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: of the gratitude they have for this country. No, they

959
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: think they'd They think that it's owed to them. I

960
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: came here and I'm just as American as you.

961
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: But you're not.

962
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: You're not lawfully in this country. You violated the Compact.

963
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: The law of the United States is something that binds

964
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: all Americans, and you, the illegal, have violated that. You

965
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: are not as American as everybody else. Sorry, but you

966
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: go on place like CNN and they will say things

967
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: that are just counterfactual about the history of immigration and

968
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: how these processes have all worked. And I've even gotten

969
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: to the point now where I like to say to people,

970
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 2: you know, pick a country, Pick a country like Sweden.

971
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 1: It's a good example for a bunch of reasons.

972
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: I think Sweden has ten million people, you know, ten

973
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: million people, and they've led in something like a million

974
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: migrants in the last decade or two from the Middle

975
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: East for Muslim countries, and they've got some problems, some

976
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: challenges by the The data on particularly violent crimes of

977
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: sexual sexual crimes show that the new arrivals. Unfortunately, in

978
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: these countries from the Muslim world are wildly disproportionately represented

979
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: in the ranks of the offenders, just a fact, so

980
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: much so that countries like Sweden try to hide it

981
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: as a matter of state policy. We have that too,

982
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: I might add, in this country you have a lot

983
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: of in the stats about who's committing crimes. You'll have

984
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: illegals who look like they're in MS thirteen, but they'll

985
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: be counted in prison data as white. So wait, so

986
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: now we're dealing with the white Hispanic thing again. Remember

987
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: that with George Zimmerman, which they only could pull off,

988
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: they thought the media on the Trayvon Martin situation because

989
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: his last name was Zimmerman. If his name was you know,

990
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: with George Dominguez, might have been a little harder to

991
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: say he's a white guy. But that's that's what they

992
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: tried for a while. The white Hispanic I'd never I had,

993
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: truly never. I'm trying to think in the media have

994
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 2: I had I ever heard that term. I don't think

995
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: I'd ever heard that term in a media report, at

996
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: least before the George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin trial, which Obama

997
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: weigh in on if you recall and said, if he

998
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon. Because

999
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: Obama was really interested in harmony and racial healing in

1000
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: this country. Sure, how did that all go for us? Regardless?

1001
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: I am now on a mission to try to do

1002
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: all I can to educate people who were willing to

1003
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: listen about what really happened at various times in this

1004
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: country's history when it comes to immigration. Oh sorry, Sweden,

1005
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: I have to finish my Sweden Sweden model.

1006
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm weaving.

1007
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 2: I'm weaving, as Trump says, right, he says, I'm weaving,

1008
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: weaving a story, weaving a tale.

1009
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Swedeness ten million people.

1010
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 2: Would it still be Sweden if they brought in five

1011
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: million Syrians, Iraqis and Somalis?

1012
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: Just take that one. Would it still be Sweden?

1013
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: Technically? Yes, maybe you would. You would call it that?

1014
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: Is it the same country? Is it the same country?

1015
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

1016
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: So the people will admit when you go through this

1017
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: that at some point, if you change the people in

1018
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: a country enough, it is a different country.

1019
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: That's obvious.

1020
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: And if that, and if the five million of the

1021
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: ten million coming from very different cultures, very different backgrounds,

1022
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: doesn't Okay, what if we brought in ten million, What

1023
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: if you're brought in ten what if all of a

1024
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: sudden You'll also notice that it is only countries, according

1025
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: to the Left and according to Democrats, that are predominantly

1026
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: or overwhelmingly white Caucasian, that are supposed to just say

1027
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: this is a process, that this is as natural as

1028
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: it can be.

1029
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: We want as many people from the third World as possible.

1030
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: Japanese aren't doing that, quite the opposite. In fact, they

1031
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: Japan is for Japanese. China is not doing that, second

1032
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: biggest country in the world, India is not doing that,

1033
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: the biggest country in the world. They're not saying give

1034
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 2: me everyone from everywhere else. But why is it that America,

1035
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: Canada and Western European countries are supposed to do that

1036
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: without protest, no matter the consequences. Well we start to

1037
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: see what's what the awakening in this country has been

1038
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: all about. And I would also again just work through

1039
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: this piece by piece. If all countries are the same

1040
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: in terms of where we should be privileging those who

1041
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: come here legally, why even have a system that pretends

1042
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: to be sorting and making decisions.

1043
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: It's all the same. Of course, it's not all the same.

1044
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: Canada had a points system, an explicit point system for

1045
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: how much money you have, your education, and they still

1046
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: have all kinds of problems up there now with assimilation

1047
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: and with the unity of the Canadian people.

1048
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: And still have a lot of problems.

1049
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: But they were just like, we're gonna take the people

1050
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: that are gonna do the best for us. And that

1051
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: was I think, well, I'll let the Canadian speak on

1052
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: that one. But it's been a big change in perception

1053
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: about that. So why even have a system that allows

1054
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: some in but not others if it's all the same.

1055
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: Clearly some countries are going to send and this is

1056
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: not This is again about policy.

1057
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: Are there amazing? Are there incredible? Yeah? Ion Hersy Ali

1058
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: is Somali, She's brilliant, She's brave, she's incredible, incredible woman.

1059
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Read her book Infidel whatever it was twenty something years ago.

1060
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: She is gutsy, she is, She's an amazing woman. She's Somalie.

1061
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: It's not about holding anything against any individual. And we

1062
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: talk about immigration, it's about we gotta make we gotta draw.

1063
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: The line somewhere.

1064
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: We have to have some what's generally true policies, and

1065
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 2: it is generally true that taking people from I've talked

1066
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 2: about Taiwana fair a bit because I was just there

1067
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 2: from Taiwan is going to result in more people who

1068
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: are highly productive, highly law abiding than taking people who

1069
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: have have come here from pick pick a country, you know,

1070
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: from Yemen. Yemen's been in rough shape for a long

1071
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: time now, very poor country, war torn country, ideologically, a

1072
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: lot of jihadism.

1073
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

1074
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: So and then this goes back even to what the's

1075
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: so called Muslim bent. We have to start to look

1076
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: at this, Okay, I wanted to do.

1077
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: CNN. Here's CNN's Abby Phillip taking taking shot Stephen Miller

1078
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: over his role in Trump administration immigration policy, Play seventeen.

1079
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Speaker 10: Why are you assuming that assimilation is not happening? Yeah,

1080
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 10: because you know, when Stephen Miller's ancestors came here in

1081
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 10: the early nineteen hundreds, they didn't speak a lick of English.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they were.

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Speaker 10: Working factory jobs. There is a generational shift that happens

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Speaker 10: where sometimes the first generation they don't speak English, but

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Speaker 10: they have children, and those people are Americans, and they

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Speaker 10: become people who are no different from you or you

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Speaker 10: or you or you, assimilation actually is happening.

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Speaker 2: It does happen, So that's not the policy that we

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Speaker 2: have been told is in effect, which is just take anybody.

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Speaker 2: Eventually they'll learn English, and their kids will be born

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Speaker 2: here and they'll be as American as everybody else. And

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Speaker 2: I also note, in the context of a place like Europe,

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Speaker 2: we've seen it's not always true, not always true they

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Speaker 2: even learn the language.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you this. I'm here in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: There are I did not really come across as very

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Speaker 2: much in New York City in my thirty something years

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Speaker 2: living in New York. It is more common here. There

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Speaker 2: are people here who speak no English, who live here,

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Speaker 2: who are here forever. They speak no English. They are

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Speaker 2: immigrants to this country. They do not speak any English.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem. Everybody who's here should be able to

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Speaker 2: speak English. English a Trump signed, you know, English is

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Speaker 2: the National Language Executive Order. I would like to see

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Speaker 2: actually more action on this with Congress. You have to

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Speaker 2: have shared law, shared language, shared culture, shared history, because

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Speaker 2: a nation at some level is a people who come

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Speaker 2: together around ideas and those shared things.

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Speaker 1: That I just laid out. But it is a people

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Speaker 1: meaning that it's a.

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Speaker 2: Place in time and a people in that place, and

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Speaker 2: you can't just say all of you go over here

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Speaker 2: to some other place and we're going to replace all

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Speaker 2: of you at once and it's the same country. That's

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Speaker 2: just not true. And so we've had to look at

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Speaker 2: this at a very baseline level. What is going on

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Speaker 2: in America today? How rapidly is the are the American

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Speaker 2: people not as American in this sense that you've got

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Speaker 2: tens of millions of illegals who are here, and you've

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Speaker 2: got people who are arriving here and in the case

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Speaker 2: of what we see in Minneapolis, immediately becoming dependent on

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Speaker 2: the state. Immediately they want their benefits, and that's on

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Speaker 2: all of us to pay those bills.

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Speaker 1: The Americans who are already here.

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Speaker 2: We're allowed to say, I don't want to be I

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Speaker 2: don't want the boot of the state on my neck

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Speaker 2: making sure that I give forty percent of my income

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Speaker 2: to the federal government so that I can pay for

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Speaker 2: foreigners who have arrived here. And you can say, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's only a small part of the budget, Okay, well

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Speaker 2: then get rid of it. That it shouldn't be happening

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Speaker 2: at all. Finally, we can talk about this. The President's

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Speaker 2: talking about this a lot. We have a lot more

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Speaker 2: work to do on this issue, that is for sure. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's an organization that's doing really good things, not just

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Speaker 2: Their mission is to help the Jewish people by providing

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