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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is going Around the NFC

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Speaker 1: in forty eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: Or one hundred and fourteen from the Chris Westling podcast studio,

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Speaker 2: It's Around the NFL. Dan Hands is here, got heroes?

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, what did you tap the table for?

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Speaker 1: I just was excited. It's like the show starting.

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Speaker 2: Oh, when you make eye contact and you tap the table,

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Speaker 2: of course, I'm gonna think you're trying to tell me something.

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Speaker 3: I was just I was just like, tough start going,

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Speaker 3: You're the You're the tough start.

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Speaker 1: You're the tough start.

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler and uh Patrick Clayband the pat.

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Speaker 1: You're the tough start is an incredible response.

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Speaker 2: You know what else is incredible that no one else

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Speaker 2: is an incredible response.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Patrick, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We have no music submissions to share before we get

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Speaker 2: into the National Football Conference, which we'll do at three

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Speaker 2: minute bursts with.

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Speaker 4: Eric Roberts manning the dart gun.

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Speaker 2: The trank gun by the way, Andrew Ceciliano in stable condition.

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Speaker 2: That Cedar Sinai took one too many dart shots. It

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Speaker 2: seemed like it didn't affect him. You guys kind of

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Speaker 2: set up Andrew a little bit and you could say

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Speaker 2: that it was a little unfair.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't understand the rules. That just showed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you know, an ignorance of the process.

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Speaker 2: It almost felt like and Patrick, as as someone that's

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Speaker 2: just watching from the outside, on that episode, it almost

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Speaker 2: was like he was targeted at points, like he was

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Speaker 2: being led into a trap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like he was targeted, more so as

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Speaker 5: you guys placed him in front in the line of

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Speaker 5: fire to take Dart after Dart, and Eric is relentless,

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Speaker 5: and you know that's that's just how it goes.

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Speaker 1: That is true.

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Speaker 2: You know you could see Eric even though he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have any military background. Couldn't just see Eric doing some damage,

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Speaker 2: like in the middle of the two and six murdering people? No,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, yeah, he's he's he's taking out

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Speaker 2: the enemy if if he had to, Like, I could

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Speaker 2: see Art doing that.

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Speaker 6: I will say that I am very rules driven, but

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Speaker 6: I am also very bad at first person shooter games.

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Speaker 6: I might just be like firing a lot, I'm learning

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Speaker 6: a clip might not hit anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting Patrick murdering people? How about serving your country?

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Speaker 4: Patrick?

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Speaker 5: You can put whatever scare quotes. Where's your pin put

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Speaker 5: on your pin. I support troops.

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Speaker 2: He's done it, he's covered, he's safe. Let's listen to

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Speaker 2: a Patrick Laibn introduction song.

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Speaker 7: Wow jazzy, very nice, Yeah, I mean, lyrically, how can

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Speaker 7: you What did he say after time?

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Speaker 4: Momentum is not real? Is that what he said?

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Speaker 2: I think that was the opening lyric, as I recall

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Speaker 2: that was from Colby Night like that, as I think

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Speaker 2: on the ore, I am client now because you know

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Speaker 2: the bots are coming for us. There's some they got

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Speaker 2: to translate some of the lyrics, but there was, as

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Speaker 2: you would imagine, a lot of the content here is

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Speaker 2: connected to momentum. That was no exception. Let's listen to

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Speaker 2: another one, this one from Matthew Quick.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's from Alabama. Just Harry as Alma.

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Speaker 8: Is Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, nice a shorter one, very nice voice.

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Speaker 4: Anything.

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Speaker 2: Patrick is so damn handsome that anything that even approximates ugliness,

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Speaker 2: like he's as Harry as a Lama. It doesn't to

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Speaker 2: me that line didn't ring true because his beard is

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Speaker 2: immaculately groomed.

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Speaker 5: Anybody takes the time to pin lyrics about me, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna appreciate it, no matter.

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Speaker 1: What I understand. I've never felt like a lama. But hey,

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Speaker 1: you know that's wonderful, Matthew.

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Speaker 2: Let's check out this one kind of blew me away,

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Speaker 2: Alex Badura.

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Speaker 1: It's like a Radiohead type song.

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Speaker 9: For you, Patrick Lebon, you are the main momentum. What

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Speaker 9: a god, what a stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's tough to top.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love just as having my own positive affirmations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean this is an ego stroke having

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Speaker 2: your own songs, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: And I thought Alex nailed everything.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the momentum things a little off, but everything else

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Speaker 2: I could not quibble with any of it, including Patrick

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Speaker 2: being a stud.

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Speaker 1: That would be my pick.

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Speaker 10: I also just did an incredible self experiment to see

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Speaker 10: how far I could go into the episode without saying

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Speaker 10: a single word, and I think I crossed five and

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Speaker 10: a half minutes, which would be a record.

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Speaker 1: You were missed, You were missed.

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Speaker 10: Now that you're in there, I've been told the episode

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Speaker 10: it is forty eight minutes long, so I think the

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Speaker 10: window begins at some point here. But I think that

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Speaker 10: third song is it captures the essence.

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Speaker 1: I love when I hear that more were they were

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Speaker 1: all great?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's listen to one more. This is from Sam Gaffigan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: probably not man who's coming pah trick Clay, Bob.

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Speaker 1: Who's that man who's rarely wrong?

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Speaker 9: Pa trick Clay?

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Speaker 7: He announces with class and fossity.

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Speaker 1: That heat announces mass time's velocity.

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Speaker 9: Who's that man.

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Speaker 1: Who's coming on?

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Speaker 4: Pah trick lay bomb?

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Speaker 1: For Dan, that was a formula for momentum. That's definitely

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Speaker 1: my favorite lyric. That was good.

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Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes we mix it up with colleens too,

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Speaker 3: like we have the main one, but then we throw

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Speaker 1: I would like to hear that again. But I still

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Speaker 1: think number three.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Like I think I would go to you should

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Speaker 11: crack thank They're all really good but mixed CD and

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Speaker 11: give that to your significant other if she's ever wondering

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Speaker 11: how great you know you are, Like it's sort of

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Speaker 11: a hype tape hype CD for you.

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Speaker 1: I can see the look on her face.

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Speaker 4: You do have to play these, Lauren.

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Speaker 2: You have to play them, just as Mark says, just

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Speaker 2: a reminder, Yeah, you realize, like, I know, we're busy,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Claybo. And here are some songs as a reminder.

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Speaker 2: Let's make a like you did it, you got clay Bo.

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Speaker 1: I'll fix you forgets.

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Speaker 2: I think we all do in our marriages sometimes what

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Speaker 2: we have you know, and these songs will be serve

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Speaker 2: as a reminder. And you didn't have to like this

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Speaker 2: is how you frame it? Okay, you're like, god, this

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Speaker 2: was so stupid. I did a podcast that it's ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: but like they played these like songs about me and

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Speaker 4: It was dumb.

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Speaker 2: And then see if she takes the cheek, Okay, she

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Speaker 2: probably will like what do you mean songs about you?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Also make sure that and then

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Speaker 1: you just like lay it out and then watch her

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Speaker 4: You all over.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, come in hard, hard, self deprecating. Oh yes, you

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Speaker 10: know you find it absurd. Yeah, you almost want to

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Speaker 5: Just mega imposter syndrome, because which I do have, like

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Speaker 5: the fact that people sat on their computers and got

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Speaker 5: their instruments out and made songs for me, But.

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Speaker 3: Like I would, I would turn off all the lights

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Speaker 1: He's sorry they're playing. That's that's a huge.

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Speaker 2: It's like the arena rock way to do it if

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Speaker 2: anyone and those are all excellent, and thank you again everybody.

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Speaker 2: If anyone wants to make one, that's just for Patrick

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Speaker 2: to use at home. You know what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 2: like that that when you not don't throw up the

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Speaker 2: arena lights. Yes, light a couple of candles, get a

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Speaker 2: babysitter and then play something.

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Speaker 1: Patrick would take that as well. A babysitter at home

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Speaker 1: while they're at home.

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Speaker 2: Get him out of the house. Yeah, okay, to the

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Speaker 2: bounce house or one of those ridiculous places. So here, Sun,

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Speaker 2: let's bounce here until my acl explodes. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: great party, my Achilles is gone.

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Speaker 1: Some of those places are falling into disrepair. Ground.

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Speaker 5: You start bouncing a couple of ways and it's like, then,

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Speaker 5: like this could.

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Speaker 1: Go horribly wrong.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention, have you ever gone to one of

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Speaker 2: those bounce houses and not have the entire house ill

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Speaker 10: Plus it's a ripe fertile ground for like concussions. We're

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Speaker 10: like two children out of control bang heads. And then

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Speaker 10: concussions no fun.

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Speaker 2: That's I feel like we might be risking losing sponsors.

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Speaker 2: But this is an important message to get out. Enough

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Speaker 2: of the bounce houses. Wow, what spots you get back

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Speaker 2: to the bowling out? All right, let's get into it

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Speaker 2: without further ado, Patrick that you got.

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Speaker 1: To be feeling good now, Yeah, I'm rifle of confidence.

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Speaker 2: All right? With that said, time to go out in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Was that the Dean screen? Damn listen, we

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Speaker 2: had Ross pro come up. We fast forward twelve years,

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Speaker 2: get a little Dean screen. What's next?

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Speaker 1: You know we're top Aaron Rodgers doing contrial myths. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. All right, let's get into it. It's start

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Speaker 1: with in the NFC in the east, will go east

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Speaker 1: to west, just like we did with.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Ceciliano over the and again Andrew is in critical

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Speaker 2: but stable condition.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You could send flowers or whatever you wish. They don't

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Speaker 2: send darts, no doing, no more darts. The doctors were

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Speaker 2: amazed that something like that could happen in a controlled

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Speaker 2: environment within the NFL's building. And I believe there will

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Speaker 2: be hell to pay, like the Otani situation. And we're like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, you know, we'll blame it on the interpreter.

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Speaker 2: We need to figure out a plan post haste on

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Speaker 2: where does.

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Speaker 4: It is it?

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Speaker 1: Eric?

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Speaker 2: Does Eric take the Eric is pressing pressing the trigger right,

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Speaker 2: But you could argue that we put him in that,

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Speaker 2: we put the gun in his hand. He did say

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Speaker 2: he follows orders. Who clipped that off before he deletes it?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it. NFC East Patrick Claiban

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys having turnover yet again. Now Tyron Smith

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Speaker 5: is going to be protecting Aaron Rodgers. We see Tony

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Speaker 5: Pollard going elsewhere playing with Tajy Spears in Nashville. And

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Speaker 5: my question about the Dallas Cowboys last year was Mike

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Speaker 5: McCarthy taking over the play calling duties and is it

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Speaker 5: a Mike McCarthy or a Kellen Moore issue or what

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Speaker 5: was going on with the Dallas Cowboys offense? No more

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Speaker 3: For all these teams, it's an incomplete grade, but some

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Speaker 2: I think in some ways, and there are different levels

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you're right, they have to absolutely nail the draft.

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Speaker 3: They have won twelve games three straight years, so I

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Speaker 1: Up next, the New York Giants. The g Men, the

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Speaker 4: Time out, time out?

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Speaker 4: The g Man, the g Men, the g g Men.

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Speaker 2: All right, timon, Umm, I'm gonna spin positive. I'm sick

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna combat that.

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Speaker 2: While everyone's burying the Giants and doing their annual springtime

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Speaker 2: Now they're all together and if they stay healthy. I

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Speaker 2: know there's issues other places, and I know everybody wants

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I look at. I also think Jermaine Illuminor along the

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Speaker 10: don't care about the Drew lock signing. You are sitting

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Speaker 1: Pieces around them.

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Speaker 1: I just would to match up with this solid defensive front.

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Speaker 5: And I think if you add like a Romo Dunze

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Speaker 5: just think if you're reaching for a quarterback, if you're

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised that there's been so much quarterback talk because like,

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Speaker 3: number one wide receivers, Malikue Neighbors might still be there

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Speaker 3: I look at this, and I look at some other

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get the second year on this contract and

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens after that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, up next, Greggye the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Fun offseason so far for the Eagles, They've signed you know,

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Speaker 1: A couple of like mixed years. Uh, do they still.

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Speaker 4: Have everyone hated him?

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Speaker 1: Lest right?

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Speaker 3: I mixed this maybe being kind like, do they still

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Speaker 1: Hassan Redick is still there.

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Speaker 3: They're probably gonna trade him, but I look at a

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Speaker 1: Of the ball with a different coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I want to see what happens with Reddick.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're not done.

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Speaker 5: And one of those moves seemed like an admission right

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Speaker 5: I just don't know that Kellen Moore really excites me,

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Speaker 3: And it supposedly his offense. It's no longer Nick Siriani's offense.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's deserve it after what happened down the stretch,

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Speaker 3: I think it's it is important to remember losing Jason

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Speaker 1: I can live with that. Well, they lost.

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Speaker 4: Kids smart.

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Speaker 2: Excited to stop talking there. That wasn't about the team,

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Speaker 1: I was just it missed Dan. I think the game

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's are we allowed to talk?

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Speaker 3: We can talk, but it can't be about the teams. Well,

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Speaker 3: what's the point challenge flag?

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Speaker 1: The circus.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like, you know what makes the podcast better?

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Speaker 2: We can talk, it just can't be about that topic,

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Speaker 2: I was giving Mark kudos.

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Speaker 1: They like nine years in, let's just make some new rules. Well,

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Speaker 10: this game seems to change every five or six minutes.

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Speaker 4: I think more darts makes the podcast.

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Speaker 2: If if now, if I would have said a point,

448
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Speaker 2: if I would have followed up on the point Mark

449
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Speaker 2: made darting to hell out of bounds, put me in

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Speaker 2: hades with a dart?

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Speaker 4: Gotcha?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: With that said, more darts? Mark the Washington Commanders, they

454
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Speaker 2: gonna keep that name. I would love to see them

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Speaker 2: change that name. None of us have ever ever bought

456
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Speaker 2: into that.

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Speaker 10: I don't hate what they did in free agency at

458
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Speaker 10: all because I started their early look at I've done

459
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Speaker 10: that two days in a row.

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Speaker 4: Too bad.

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Speaker 10: I think Dorance Armstrong following Dan Quinn, Frankie Louvo, We've

462
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Speaker 10: all talked about him, Bobby Wagner, Jeremy Chan It's like

463
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Speaker 10: there's some veteran like identity on this team, and I

464
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Speaker 10: think that was needed. And I like, I know, of course,

465
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Speaker 10: like you know, you move on from your quarterback. They

466
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Speaker 10: absolutely are taking one at number two. Daniel Jeremiah has

467
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Speaker 10: them taking Drake May. I mean I see the Drake

468
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Speaker 10: May like assessments are all over the map, Like I

469
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Speaker 10: like Chris Sims hasn't in a tier below bow Nix

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Speaker 10: and Michael Pennix Junior. It's like, I don't know who's

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Speaker 10: going to number two. I don't know what the commanders think,

472
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Speaker 10: but I have one questions. I think this like addition

473
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Speaker 10: to the team kind of flew under the radar a

474
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Speaker 10: little bit, Like you've got a new quarterback and a

475
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Speaker 10: lot of new pieces on offense. Like do we trust

476
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Speaker 10: like as Cliff Kingsbury someone we trust at this point

477
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Speaker 10: to helm a rookies like opening salve into the NFL.

478
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Speaker 10: It's like I that to me is is is a

479
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Speaker 10: big question mark.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know why we would have reason to

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Speaker 5: say that we do have. I just haven't necessarily seen it.

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Speaker 3: Especially a man that found a way to out of

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Speaker 3: losing record with Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: And then he comes over to USC and Caleb gets worse. Right,

485
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Speaker 5: there was a serious regression in the quarterback that's going

486
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Speaker 5: to go number one overall. And so now the Cliff

487
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Speaker 5: move signaled to people that always is Washington going to

488
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Speaker 5: try to get the number one overall picked, and there

489
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Speaker 5: hasn't been any sort of move towards that yet. And

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Speaker 5: I'm just wondering what position we're putting a rookie quarterback,

491
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Speaker 5: and if it's a rookie, if they go another direction.

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Speaker 5: I'm just very confused about the team. And this is

493
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Speaker 5: a franchise we thought we were gonna get more clarity

494
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Speaker 5: from and it feels like we've actually gotten lot.

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Speaker 10: And if ever it was not a quarterback they have

496
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Speaker 10: Marcus Mariota, I don't think they're letting the media know

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Speaker 10: at all what they're interested in, and so they're sort

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Speaker 10: of a vacuum in people just speculating, which actually is

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Speaker 10: a good sign.

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Speaker 3: That's different than what was happening in Washington in the past. No,

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's gonna know whether it's Jane Daniels

502
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Speaker 3: or Drake me until drafting just fun and I think

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Speaker 3: is a sign of a they're getting better.

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Speaker 1: I like the approach. They've brought in so many players.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen new players have come in from other organizations, eight

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Speaker 3: have gone. I think that's the way to do it

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Speaker 3: with a team like this, Just hope you hit on

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Speaker 3: seven or eight role players. And some of the moves

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Speaker 3: like like Luvu, like Armstrong. I think I've been among

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Speaker 3: the best in free agency. Yeah, a lot of their.

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Speaker 2: Moves haven't blown me away, but it's like, Okay, he

512
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Speaker 2: seems useful.

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Speaker 4: He seems useful.

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Speaker 2: That could work. The Mariota thing blows my mind that

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Speaker 2: he keeps getting a job. But otherwise I thought like

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Speaker 2: they've been effective and using free agency to overhaul the

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Speaker 2: roster and you have a new head coach, and it

518
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Speaker 2: did any team need more of a kind of like

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Speaker 2: a reset this year than Washington now will work. We'll

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Speaker 2: see are they a lot better? We'll see but at

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Speaker 2: least they're trying. And then if you hit on the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: who knows?

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Speaker 4: Who knows? So I give him a solid B for

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Speaker 4: their offseason.

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Speaker 1: So far, I'd agree. I hope they take Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 1: That's where I only know.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're just getting go and see under the

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Speaker 2: old rules, i'd take a dart right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: There are no rules like at this we've established that.

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Speaker 10: Am I allowed to talk or just you? I don't

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Speaker 10: even know.

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Speaker 5: I feel like some people think the dart is a

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Speaker 5: part of that music sound effect because it's so common.

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Speaker 1: It's true, how's your AMMO doing?

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Speaker 4: You? You fire off so many darts that I start

537
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Speaker 4: to wonder, like where who's your unlimited never ends? One

538
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Speaker 4: of the scariest.

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Speaker 2: Things was Eric saying I'm good at taking orders like

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Speaker 2: we he could be a killing machine. H as like

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Speaker 2: an assassin. What was the Bill Hayter Show, Barry Roberts

542
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Speaker 2: Sleep or Cell spin Off? All right, let's take a

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Speaker 2: break and we'll get to the NFC North.

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Speaker 4: All right, we are back. Let's get to the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: Let's get right into it with the Chicago Bears. I'll

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Speaker 2: start this one off Uh, they have improved their roster.

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Speaker 2: There is no doubt about that. Love the Keenan Allen move,

548
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Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, cool, Kevin Bayyard, Okay, Gerald Everett nice addition

549
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Speaker 2: to the tight end room and now everything all attention

550
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Speaker 2: obviously turns to the number one overall pick. Everyone knows

551
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Speaker 2: where this guy where they're going to go with this,

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Speaker 2: and the barring some type of absurdity, Caleb Williams becomes

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Speaker 2: that guy. So I speaking of off seasons where I

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Speaker 2: give a solid B so far, I like what the

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Speaker 2: Bears have done.

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Speaker 4: I'd even bump them claybonto a B.

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Speaker 2: Plus because the first job you have to do when

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Speaker 2: you bring in a pick of this ilk, a number

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Speaker 2: one overall pick, is don't surround him with trash. They

560
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Speaker 2: they're trying to set up infrastructure to let the kid

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Speaker 2: hit the ground running a las CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud. Let's see if it works.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And they have a very good example from Chicago

564
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Speaker 5: of what not to do with a quarterback that goes

565
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Speaker 5: in the first round and how to surround him and

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Speaker 5: how to provide him with the opportunity to be successful.

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Speaker 5: So you think they take the lessons that they learned

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Speaker 5: from the justin fields experience, and I'm looking at Keenan

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Speaker 5: Allen as still a one like Keenan And of course

570
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Speaker 5: there's there's injuries. Everybody in the league is going to

571
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Speaker 5: deal with injuries at some point. But the way that

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Speaker 5: his game is structured, he can contribute three four, I

573
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Speaker 5: still think maybe six years down the road. And then

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Speaker 5: you change DJ Moore and the way that defenses can

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Speaker 5: focus on him. It's all set up there. What's the

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Speaker 5: schedule like for Caleb and how are they going to

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Speaker 5: facilitate him to be successful.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to see it. I love.

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Speaker 10: I love also that they got Keenan Allen for a

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Speaker 10: four and because their cap situation was what it was,

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Speaker 10: they could absorb that salary versus him going being cut

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Speaker 10: at some point, and they you know, they were able

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Speaker 10: to make that trade Keenan Allen, DJ Moore. It's part

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Speaker 10: a part of two parts because the second part is

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Speaker 10: the draft. Obviously we know it's Caleb Williams number one

586
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Speaker 10: barring a stunner, but then they've got the number nine,

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Speaker 10: pick two, and it's like, do you just go like

588
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Speaker 10: maybe Robot, like, do you get the best wide receiver

589
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Speaker 10: a possible and suddenly you've got a stacked offense.

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Speaker 1: So I think Gerald Everett matters too.

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Speaker 3: Right, they could be at a spot where those top

592
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Speaker 3: three receivers are off the board, and then the value

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Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's there, so they take a tackle

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Speaker 3: there that's where this draft is, or they really back,

595
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Speaker 3: or they take the top defensive player on the board.

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Speaker 3: I think Ryan Pols has done the thing, which in

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Speaker 3: the thing is by year three of being there, I

598
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Speaker 3: want to have some stamp on my team. I want

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Speaker 3: to have evidence that my you know, time here has

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Speaker 3: been worthy, and I think he has. He's built up

601
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Speaker 3: a defense that has an identity. Ibra Flus made it

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Speaker 3: happen a year ago. But they're still very thin on

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Speaker 3: the like they could use another tackle. Certainly, they could

604
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Speaker 3: use another receiver. Keen Allen's on a one year deal

605
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Speaker 3: and they have no third receiver, no fourth receiver, no nothing,

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Speaker 3: so that they could look for another one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, feels like a great time to have two

608
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Speaker 2: top ten picks, so they it just there's reason for hope.

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Speaker 2: And yes, the the fields thing turned into kind of

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Speaker 2: the fiasco with the way the trade ended up playing out,

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Speaker 2: but it's all in the past now and you move

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Speaker 2: forward as an organization and maybe brighter days are ahare

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Speaker 2: for once.

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Speaker 3: The Bears are worth some hype, deserve it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm watching. We're on a freaking monitor. Stopped talking

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Speaker 1: before hit zero, and.

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Speaker 2: As someone who's the tee up of the segment, I

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Speaker 2: had put a bow on it. Then you came in.

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Speaker 3: Well that's because I said, I saw the four three

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Speaker 3: two one. I thought I'd get one last shot. I'm

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Speaker 3: not worried about my field goal percentage, like those guys

622
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Speaker 3: in the NBA who holded that extra half second where they.

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Speaker 6: Keep shooting him, give it to me. I think it

624
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Speaker 6: was still in the hands. Mark on the fingertips.

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Speaker 2: Stronger dart for Greg Sharpshooters prerogative. Detroit Lions, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 10: I like some of the very lionsy type things that

627
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Speaker 10: they did, like DJ Reader, really good football player to

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Speaker 10: add to the defensive line, Kevin Zeitler can still play

629
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Speaker 10: and like he is sort of a nasty, beefy human

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Speaker 10: to add to their offensive line. The thing with the Lions,

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Speaker 10: like last couple of years, it's like their defense kind

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Speaker 10: of let them down. And I know they were better

633
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Speaker 10: last year than the year before I do wonder if

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Speaker 10: they could pull I know they went and got Carlton Davis.

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Speaker 1: They re signed Emmanuel Moseley.

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Speaker 10: Amik Robertson's there as well, but they have twenty six

637
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Speaker 10: million in cap space and there is this behind door

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Speaker 10: number two option. They were listed as one of six

639
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Speaker 10: teams that had a potential interest in Lugerious Snead. He

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Speaker 10: can play all over the place as a cornerback. Is

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Speaker 10: it's so crazy for a team that's on the precipice

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Speaker 10: of Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know their window is right open.

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Speaker 10: Go get a difference making cornerback who could also I

645
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Speaker 10: think if you use them correctly, he is a total

646
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Speaker 10: quarterback nuisance. As a blitzer, it would add a whole

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Speaker 10: element to a Lions secondary that looked completely different, like

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Speaker 10: do you.

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Speaker 4: Just go for it?

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Speaker 3: They are also aware and made a statement about Cameron Sutton,

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Speaker 3: their cornerback who they brought in for a lot of

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Speaker 3: money last year, who's being investigated police in Florida. I've

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Speaker 3: been searching for him about two weeks after in the

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Speaker 3: West Warrens for a domestic violence case. So that and

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Speaker 3: they release the statement. They're aware of it, and that's

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Speaker 3: another thing at that position that I think is a concern.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking too, they could be a spot for

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Speaker 3: Justin Simmons, who's a free agent at safety. They could

659
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Speaker 3: certainly need another safety. Uh, they've these signings. Marcus Davenport

660
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Speaker 3: was another one, like Zeitler was a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: These are all very much like, let's add a little

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Speaker 3: sprinkled to get over the top on.

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Speaker 1: Some high risk, hy reward one year deals.

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Speaker 5: I think the departure of Jonah Jackson was something that

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Speaker 5: really meant something. But think Kevin Zeitler comes over and

666
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Speaker 5: you feel solid about that. I just in terms of

667
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Speaker 5: the Jared Goff discussion, feels so much better about Jared

668
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Speaker 5: Golf then sure maybe maybe?

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Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson I think he might get a contract

670
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: this offseason. Yeah, why not.

671
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Speaker 5: It's there's the negatives there are vastly outweighed by thinking

672
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 5: about Jamior Gibbs coming back his second season, knowing how

673
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Speaker 5: to operate in the offense, and more Jamo as well

674
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Speaker 5: on the outside.

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Speaker 2: I'm more James, more James Jamo. Yeah, the defense has

676
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Speaker 2: been the focus. Reader Davenport robertson Carlton Davis third. Okay,

677
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: Davis was a big time move Now let's see if

678
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: that takes the defense from back end of the thirty two,

679
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: if they finished twenty fourth in the league in yards

680
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: per play allowed last year to the middle or even

681
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: a little bit higher, and that could be the difference

682
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Speaker 2: for this team to getting over the hump in the

683
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Speaker 2: NFC exciting times. Indeed, I always am a little worried

684
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: though about the I mean, they've whoever whoever enters the

685
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: year where it's like, oh, we just need a little more.

686
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: And I think Dan Campbell said it in the blocker room,

687
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: like there's no guarantee we ever get back there. And

688
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: the NFC, I think is going to look better this year.

689
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Speaker 2: As much as I like Jared Goff, he's still not

690
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

691
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Speaker 10: Like that division is back, there will be tough Thorny.

692
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Speaker 1: Indeed, technically I was seconding.

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Speaker 2: His I thought you were that. See that just shows

694
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Speaker 2: again mcnanimous. I didn't say nice job, Mark, I was

695
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Speaker 2: actually agreeing with the which is over the deadline of

696
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Speaker 2: the class.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say anything because I didn't know. I'm

698
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Speaker 1: trying to go dart for you today.

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Speaker 2: You do, like our last guest, We'll see we'll see

700
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: up next.

701
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Speaker 1: The Packers with Greg Rosenthal.

702
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Speaker 3: I struggled in this exercise thinking like, what is the

703
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 3: big need for the Packers? Have they have they refreshed

704
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: their roster that fast, that like they can do anything

705
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: on draft day.

706
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: Certainly they could use a safety, but they did.

707
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Speaker 3: Just add Daru McKinney to big time money was one

708
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: of my favorite moves in free agency. Left tackle I

709
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: think could be one, and they've had such a good

710
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: history of finding values. But you look at this roster

711
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: and all it's just goody picks sprinkled up and down

712
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: the draft, I mean up and down the roster. I

713
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 3: guess cornerback would be the spot you have. You brought

714
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: Keyshaw Nixon back the returner, but Jaya Alexander still around.

715
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Speaker 3: People didn't necessarily expect that. Eric Stokes like they could

716
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Speaker 3: get better there. And yet I look at this roster

717
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: and like a lot of homegrown talent. It's a there's

718
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: a lot to like, and Josh Jacobs and aj Dillon

719
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Speaker 3: to me, is a fun combination at running back.

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Speaker 1: I don't like.

721
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Speaker 10: Josh Jacobs versus where they were a year ago running back,

722
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Speaker 10: but that's my own personal bias. I think Xavier McKinney

723
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Speaker 10: was one of the best signings. And it's a little

724
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Speaker 10: bit anti Packers to go out and spend that money

725
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Speaker 10: the way they did, but they have sprinkled. They're able

726
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 10: to do that because they've sprinkled in so many good

727
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 10: draft picks. And it really so much of it is

728
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Speaker 10: like everything that happened last year poster and Rodgers is

729
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 10: everything he was asking for before. And I think one

730
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Speaker 10: of the bigger issues was defensive coordinator situation was becoming

731
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Speaker 10: a lightning rod all over the place. Jeff Hafley is,

732
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Speaker 10: you know, comes in with a better situation the secondary.

733
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Speaker 10: I'm very inched to see how he performs because he's

734
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Speaker 10: basically one of the rare guys that like left a

735
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 10: head coaching job in college flat out because he was

736
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Speaker 10: tired of college football operates.

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Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs is the only player that's going to start

738
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Speaker 3: on offense that isn't a Packers draft pick from the

739
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Speaker 3: last five years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and crazy, and that luxury allows them to kind

741
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Speaker 1: of do whatever.

742
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Speaker 5: And I think that tackle spot is the place to

743
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 5: fill and if say a JC Latham is off the

744
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 5: board at twenty five, I think the Packers are a

745
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: solid trade down candidate to try to get because if

746
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Speaker 5: you're a believer in this whole, well, you can get

747
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 5: a receiver anywhere. The Packers hit on almost every single

748
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 5: one of them in the past couple of years, so that,

749
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: like Goody can can do whatever, and Jordan Love gives

750
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Speaker 5: you the opportunity to just kind of take a shot.

751
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Speaker 4: Love is huge, obviously.

752
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: I saw a meme floating around one of my favorite

753
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: movies ever, Goodwill Hunting, when Will goes after this a

754
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: star's guard character, and he goes talking about math for him,

755
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: but it's for the Packers and picking quarterbacks. Do you

756
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: know how easy this is for me? Do you have

757
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: any idea how easy this is? This is a joke,

758
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry you can't do this, I really am,

759
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't have to sit here and watch you

760
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: fumble around and get up. That's basically the Packers to

761
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: twenty four other teams in the league that cannot find quarterbacks,

762
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Speaker 2: They've found three in a row. My one point is

763
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: you don't have Joe Barry to kick around anymore. They

764
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Speaker 2: got him out of the building.

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Speaker 1: Mark, Yeah, you like Goodwill Hunting?

766
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Speaker 4: I love it.

767
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 10: I also love when he's you know, goes after the

768
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 10: man with ponytail early on iconic line about them apples. Yeah,

769
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Speaker 10: that guy is an annoying academic.

770
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Speaker 1: He gets an.

771
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Speaker 4: Great actor, great casting.

772
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Speaker 10: Yes, he looks like a central casting intellectual oath.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you're a baited into that one.

774
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Speaker 1: Not at all, stop it.

775
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: I was not watching the clock to Thanky Davis all right,

776
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: next Patrick the Vikings. So the Minnesota Vikings go out

777
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: and make a trade.

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Speaker 5: They trade a future second round pick as well as

779
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Speaker 5: a late round pick, and they're forty number forty two

780
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Speaker 5: to move up. It makes me feel like they will

781
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: take a shot to try, at least try Questy sending

782
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: out some feelers and offers to get a quarterback move

783
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: up in the draft in twenty twenty four. My question

784
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 5: about the Vikings the huge departure of Kirk Cousins. How

785
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 5: long does Sam Darnold fendoff whoever the Vikings draft at

786
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Speaker 5: quarterback in twenty twenty.

787
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Speaker 2: Guess it doesn't it depend on how big this swing

788
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Speaker 2: is for the Vikings, or does it not matter if

789
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: they take any quarterback in the first round.

790
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Speaker 4: Sam's kind of.

791
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Speaker 3: Basically, they somehow get you to three and take Jade

792
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: Daniels or Drake may I feel like it's less of

793
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: a leash. I actually think they still would tend to

794
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: lean towards starting Darnold to start the season, but it'd

795
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: be less of elease if it's if it's a guy

796
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: in the second round. Like, I'm not totally convinced that

797
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 3: they're going to take a quarterback in the first round,

798
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: just because we all think.

799
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Speaker 2: I think that's the natural inclination once they got that

800
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: second pick, is that they were arming themselves to march

801
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: up the board. But maybe they have a whole different

802
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: plan that they're about to unfurl.

803
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: Or maybe they like Michael Pennix and are going to

804
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: take him at twenty three or something like that and

805
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: see what happens at eleven.

806
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: They they've sneakily had.

807
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: The most transition of almost any team in the NFL

808
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: over the last two years. I counted eleven players that

809
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: are out the door that had significant roles that have

810
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: signed with other teams already this year, and they've had

811
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: fourteen players come in and I and I like it.

812
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: I've liked Questy's process. I like the players that they've

813
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: brought in. For the most part, Aaron Jones, certainly Jonathan

814
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: Gridard Cashman, Vin Ginkle, Like it's a fun group of

815
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: players they brought in, but it is really a different

816
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: roster than it was two years ago.

817
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, they questy like openly, you know, talked about churning

818
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 10: the like the roster of the process, and they found

819
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 10: a way without going to the darkness stray and all that.

820
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 10: I do find it interesting because Daniel Jeremiah typically does

821
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Speaker 10: not include trades and before his final mock draft, and

822
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Speaker 10: he went out of us with this way to do

823
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Speaker 10: because of what these They added that second pick, the

824
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Speaker 10: hasle moving up to number four, trading with the Cardinals

825
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 10: to get JJ McCarthy. And I think it comes down

826
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Speaker 10: to if you're Kevin O'Connell, do you have a guy

827
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 10: that you fall in love with?

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Speaker 1: And that kind of greases the skids for a trade up.

829
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of McCarthy Viking spoke and I get

830
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: all that and the focus on the offense, and they've

831
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Speaker 3: done a great job building up the offense. The line's good.

832
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: Addison was a good pick, and yeah, I look at

833
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: this defense. It's the opposite of the Packers, like they

834
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 3: have almost no homegrown Day one or two. They literally

835
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: don't have a Day one or two guy that was

836
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: drafted on their team that's starting for their defense other

837
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Speaker 3: than Harrison Smith. He's been there thirteen years. Like they

838
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: have no premier homegrown talent a defense. That's a tough

839
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Speaker 3: way to live.

840
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Speaker 4: Kind of to me. I'm curious what their plan is.

841
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Speaker 2: Was the Donald move strictly a move like, here's our

842
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: backup plan if the draft doesn't go our way or

843
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: they see Donald as a depreciated asset, then they can

844
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Speaker 2: with a cheap QB build up the roster quickly around

845
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Speaker 2: him and take a swing. I guess we'll find out.

846
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Speaker 2: That's the NFC North. We take a break and we

847
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: hit the South. All right, we're back. Mark, do you

848
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: want to do you want to give a bayside? I

849
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 2: want to give a bayside a try?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

851
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: Sure, Well no, he has to say, you're not allowing

852
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: to out here. I had no chance at it?

853
00:40:50,320 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: Know, all right, hit it, Eric, did you understand the assignment?

854
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: I do not have any idea what you're asking comes

855
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: back from the break with the baysides thing.

856
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: That might be what Mark just kind of checking out.

857
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: He might not be aware of what.

858
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 10: But then usually naturally you have about this next do

859
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 10: you want me to say.

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00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 4: That, I'll do it.

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00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: I'll see what he says, you say, and then coming.

862
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: Back out of the last break, you'll give it a shot.

863
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just.

864
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: Said, do you want to try basside and you just

865
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: said sure? You had no idea what I.

866
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Play the song?

867
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Speaker 10: I mean because it's like, like you know these things,

868
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 10: I kind of am more like a I mean react

869
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 10: mode during that we would come out of these long,

870
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 10: lengthy enjoyment breaks.

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00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: That we have.

872
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so here they come, here it comes, and then

873
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: we'll the last all right, welcome back. We now move

874
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: on to the thing.

875
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought you wanted me to do it. Yes,

876
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: I'm showing you this time around.

877
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 10: And then for our last break, I'll do it to

878
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 10: my own I'll do it in my own way.

879
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: Okay, when the time comes, that's what we really want.

880
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: Okay, there we go mark the Falcons. That was a journey.

881
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I feel I at this point, I'm just

882
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 10: completely lost. At see I would I would ask here

883
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Speaker 10: we go remember the old like IBM you make the

884
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 10: call commercials. Those were fun, like the back when you

885
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 10: know there was like not you know there was a

886
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 10: less nonsense going on, so you could focus on it

887
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 10: and like you and your dad would argue over like

888
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 10: the penalty call. I don't remember those, but it might

889
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 10: have proceeded your watching at it. It was like it

890
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 10: was old well, but uh, I want you to imagine

891
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 10: in this world that like Terry Fontineau Falcons GM has

892
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 10: received a case of sunstroke after a like a front

893
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 10: office boat party at the George DS. Sparks Reservoir which

894
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 10: is outside of Atlanta, and he's down for the county,

895
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 10: can't attend the draft, so you have to make the call,

896
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 10: and you are looking at a pretty loaded Falcons offense

897
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 10: pick number eight. Though you can help Raheem Morris get

898
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 10: a foundational defensive player, picking Dallas turn the number one

899
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 10: out of Alabama in the draft.

900
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: They need that.

901
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 10: Or you can look at a wide receiver room with

902
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 10: Drake London, Darnell Mooney, Rondell Moore, and Kyle Pitts and

903
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 10: you just go go get Roma Dunze and just say

904
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 10: Kirk Cousins. No matter, even if your Achilles is still

905
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 10: only at thirty percent, you cannot help but hit one

906
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 10: of these players on every pass attempt.

907
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 1: That you have, you make the call.

908
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: Great, I think I'm taking the defensive plate. Well, Dounday's

909
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: a unique case. Is he duplicative of Drake London. They're

910
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 3: kind of similar in some way, So although you would

911
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: love to have both, I don't think he'll be there.

912
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: I kind of think the first six seven picks of

913
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 3: the draft are guy going to be quarterback, wide receiver.

914
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: It's like an ultimate Fantasy showdown. So unless they are

915
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: willing to move up, I have a feeling they'll be gone.

916
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: And their defense looks like one of the worst defenses

917
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: in the league on paper. It's kind of flown under

918
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: the raidar. You know who they've signed on defense this offseason. Nobody,

919
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 3: literally nobody. Their edge rushers are Arnold Abauhetti and Lorenzo Carter,

920
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 3: and the other positions are pretty thin too. Best defensive

921
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: player on the board. Seems like it's working out well

922
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: for them. I feel yeah, easily.

923
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: And I think Dallas Turner is in a spot where

924
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 5: the Falcons would be able to get him and.

925
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: The value there.

926
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 5: Considering that while we love all of these offensive guys,

927
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: not all of them are going to pan out. It's

928
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 5: very rare to think that every single one of them

929
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 5: is offering the value that we think Dallas Turner might provide.

930
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 5: He was a younger guy who's got the measurables off

931
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 5: the charts. It seems like a no break, especially considering

932
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 5: that Atlanta has tried, like you go back ten to

933
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 5: fifteen years, like Vic Beasley, all these guys off the edges.

934
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: They've replaced the Jets as the team never having an

935
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 3: edge rusher.

936
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: Do you want to hear the freaky thing?

937
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: What's that?

938
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: The freaky thing is now Falcons say we haven't had

939
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: an edge rusher since it's also John Abraham. The Jets

940
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: fans were saying that for twelve years about John Abraham,

941
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: and now the Falcon years, Falcons are saying.

942
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: The same thing.

943
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he leaves the same guy leaves on these teams.

944
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: When that's what I'm.

945
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: Saying, How is it possible he's like the guy who

946
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: doesn't teach the next generation how to do things, and

947
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: somehow it's lasted for fifteen years.

948
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: Abraham, they're number one, far and away on the improvement.

949
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: In Ducks Cousins. Yeah, it was zero.

950
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 6: It's fair could have gone to either the best part

951
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 6: he is greg pointing at the Zeros they're zeros.

952
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: The other time I said it. The first time it

953
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: was that one Greg the Panthers, Oh the Panthers. I

954
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: feel like we haven't given a lot of Panthers love

955
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: Panthers offseason.

956
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: I like what they've done.

957
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: They've they've decided offensive line and Deontay Johnson like that's

958
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: the best way to help Bryce Song.

959
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense.

960
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: He spent a lot of money for Damian Lewis and

961
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: Robert Hunt's not my money though, and they are definitely better.

962
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: Yosh Nigeman from the Packers actually is a guy who

963
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 3: I had in my top hundred.

964
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: I like a lot and so that that's all good.

965
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 3: And then I look at the defense and I think

966
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: this was a pretty good defense, and I like a

967
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: giro Evro. There's a reason why other teams wanted him.

968
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 3: And I just think, man, a lot of talent's gonna

969
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: out the door. Frankie Luvu, Brian Burns, Dante Jackson, Grossmatos,

970
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: who is a good player. And they've brought some in

971
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: like DJ Wanham and Josie Joel, but not big time

972
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: players Jordan Fuller, and they're asking a lot out of

973
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: a Giro Everro. Like the focus has only been on

974
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: the offense, and now they might not be good at anything,

975
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: is my point.

976
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, well they Yeah, they lost key components on that

977
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 10: side of the ball, and they're a team largely without

978
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 10: an identity other than the fact that they've largely failed

979
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 10: at quarterback and up front of him. He was poorly

980
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 10: protected though all year, and I can't think of a

981
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 10: quarterback in the league that you don't want to get

982
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 10: hit as many times as he was. I think Robert

983
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 10: Hunt is a great signing. He was a six PFF's

984
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 10: number six guard last year. He looked like it's a

985
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 10: big loss for the Dolphins.

986
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: You needed to go do that.

987
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 10: I just think the number one thing is Dave Canalis.

988
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 10: Two years in a row. He's revived a quarterbacks career.

989
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 10: This seems more challenging than even Gino or Baker Baker Mayfield.

990
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: And you can feel the panic around the because the

991
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: way the draft played out, and then Stroud instantly became

992
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: the start. So they're like, holy God, what are we

993
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: going to do? So let's redo the interior of the line.

994
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: Let's remember he's not a very tall quarterback, so it's

995
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 2: very important to have some maulers up front. That can

996
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: really get things under control coming down. What was the

997
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: old Tom Brady thing, you know, bring the pressure right

998
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: at him right.

999
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: Pressure doesn't make it up the middle. So there are

1000
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: two who does.

1001
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: They add a wide receiver Deontay Johnson Claybon, who is

1002
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: very talented. It certainly bumps back guys like Adam Feelin,

1003
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: which is necessary into a different spot on the depth chart.

1004
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: So they're trying and we'll see what else they can

1005
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: do here.

1006
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as influences the perception, c J. Stroud

1007
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 5: benefited from a lot of that team that was there

1008
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 5: right at least Laramie Tunsel was brought to benefit another

1009
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 5: quarterback right when the Texans were making that original run,

1010
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 5: and so the Texans had this upheaval. Dimico comes in,

1011
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 5: but c J. Strout was in a much better position.

1012
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: The team was in a much better position than the

1013
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three Carolina Panthers, where, yeah, Adam Thielen is

1014
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 5: your number one, and you've got rookies and guys that

1015
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: did necessarily work out elsewhere. I think there's reason to

1016
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 5: be confident. But I'm also looking at Aziro Evro and

1017
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 5: the defense, like Greg mentioned, where it seems based on

1018
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 5: Jeremy Chin's falling off of the planet that they have

1019
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 5: a stated belief and this is the type of player,

1020
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 5: this is the system that we're going to operate in,

1021
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 5: and if you don't do that particular thing, then we

1022
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: don't want you to play on.

1023
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Right, Who are their edge rushers?

1024
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: And you've kind of brought in these maulers in the

1025
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: in the on the line, but they're like run first guys,

1026
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: and you don't really have a running back by the way.

1027
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: Hog Molly's save Bryce.

1028
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: Claybot on the Saints, Oh, the New Orleans Saints should

1029
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: be fun.

1030
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's always fun.

1031
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 5: And I think every single year there's this like tisking

1032
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: of the Saints and saying that, well, we see, we

1033
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: told you the cap is real. I don't think anybody,

1034
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 5: especially shot out to Ky Harley is denwing denying the

1035
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 5: existence of the salary cap. They're just different ways to

1036
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: manage the salary cap. And so this Saints do actually

1037
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 5: keep some veterans to Mario Davis comes back, the honey

1038
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 5: Badger comes back.

1039
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: They still have the talent.

1040
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 5: But last year was the best head coaching season in

1041
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 5: Dennis Allen's career, The absolute.

1042
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: Best judged by wins and losses.

1043
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: By wins and lossy can we get just get one?

1044
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen compliment without the original.

1045
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: That wasn't a compliment. It was at the best coaching job.

1046
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: It was career, it was not. It was just well,

1047
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: purely a statement of fact. It's damning with Faine praise

1048
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: intentionally is.

1049
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: Let it be?

1050
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Just let it sit a little bit, purely a statement

1051
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: of fact. Best season Dennis Allen.

1052
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: Has ever had as the head coach of the National

1053
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 5: Football League. What's the best reason to believe the Saints

1054
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: will finish even better in the division in twenty twenty

1055
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 5: four than they did in twenty twenty three.

1056
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: I can't because I think last year they.

1057
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 10: Openly sort of said we're going to ride through this

1058
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 10: this year identity free.

1059
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: I want.

1060
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 10: I look at the Saints over the last couple of seasons.

1061
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 10: I don't know how it is you want to exist

1062
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 10: in this world or what life you're trying to live

1063
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 10: and what you're trying to tell your fans. It just

1064
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 10: to me, it's like a roster kind of floating. And

1065
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 10: this what they've done so far this time around, feels

1066
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 10: like more of the same to me.

1067
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: What's a roster led by a defensive coach that wants

1068
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: his defense to be good, and it should be good.

1069
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: It was good last year, can it be great. We'll

1070
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 3: see Chase Young they bring in. We didn't talk about

1071
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: that on the show where it's a lot of roster surgery,

1072
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: right right, if he can be active, So they it

1073
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: was a fairly low risk because of the money and

1074
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: you know, a decent reward I think for him, but

1075
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: you hope he's well. Willie Gay was a nice signing,

1076
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: like their defense should be good. I just don't buy

1077
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: that they're suddenly conservative. They haven't done much this offseason,

1078
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: and I feel like more is coming. They didn't they

1079
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: need a second wide receiver. They certainly needed left tackle.

1080
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: Despite having traded up for Trevor Penning a couple of

1081
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 3: years ago. Marshall Lattimore maybe will be part of trying

1082
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: to improve other spots on the roster.

1083
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope not, because he's one of

1084
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: the best players on the roster.

1085
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 4: This is where I was supposed to speak you.

1086
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: You seem agitated, want to.

1087
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: No, no.

1088
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: I always in this case, I was kind of sitting

1089
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: it out because I felt like the takes were strong

1090
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: about the Saints, and I don't have the same level

1091
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: of like heat around them.

1092
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: So he's gonna well, it's like keep passing the ball

1093
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: back and forth.

1094
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: When if you say it's the best coaching, you were

1095
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: doing that a little tongue in cheek because I'm giving

1096
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: the judges score, I'm giving them a lower score.

1097
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, just again, we've we've done quarterback wins.

1098
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 5: There are the group of people that believe that, you know,

1099
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 5: the quarterback gets to I feel like if we were

1100
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 5: applying that to quarterbacks, then we should definitely apply to coaches.

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Speaker 1: Well was his best season?

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of hey, you got the you mentioned that

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00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: you had to get Nathan Peterman in the building quickly,

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Speaker 3: Peter quarter I do like Clint Kobiak.

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00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, me thinks the Bucks are tad

1106
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Speaker 2: high on their own supply.

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Speaker 9: Mmm.

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00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: Remember that Jason Light Connor or Ambush at the combine.

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00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, this.

1110
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 2: Is also the same Jason Light who recently said that

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00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: the Bucks free agency was one of the greatest free

1112
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: agency hauls ever.

1113
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: That was a direct quote, actually, and you know.

1114
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: That meant they re signed Mike Evans Levante, David got

1115
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: Baker under contract, and while I believe wholeheartedly the positive

1116
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: reinforcement of self is important. I am pounding that message

1117
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: home to my eldest son Jack right now, who's gone

1118
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: through some struggles on the baseball diamond the spring.

1119
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: But perspective context also important.

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Speaker 2: Not all back to back to back division winners are

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Speaker 2: created equal by the.

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Speaker 1: Way they won three in Arona.

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Speaker 2: And it's important to remember that Tampa Bay won these

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00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: last two division titles despite a five hundred record across

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Speaker 2: those two years. Actually, yeah, seventeen and seventeen. So the

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00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: question becomes, what are the Bucks have to do to

1127
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: aspire to be more than just the champion of a

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: bad division?

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Speaker 1: Hmm.

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00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: He had some more explosiveness on offense, like they are

1131
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: a great test of how much continuity matters. Bringing back

1132
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: all the guys you said, even bringing in Jordan Whitehead

1133
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: is continuity again, like bringing back a guy that was

1134
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: there when they didn't win the division. But they did

1135
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl four years ago. So it's been

1136
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: a nice run. His offensive line, he's done a good job.

1137
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: Jason light like all their their entire offensive line is

1138
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: day one or two picks by Jason light Like He's

1139
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: a sneaky good drafter, but I feel like we need

1140
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: to get a few more of the difference makers on

1141
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: the defensive side. Trading away Carlton Davis and Todd Bowles's

1142
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: defense was really not holding their end of the bargain consistently.

1143
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 10: Last I'm with you, Dan in the sense that, like

1144
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 10: I keep hearing the Bucks six saying we're running it back,

1145
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 10: Like you finish with the same record as Dennis Allen

1146
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 10: and the Saints and in a bad division, and you

1147
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 10: want a playoff game against a team that had fallen

1148
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 10: off a cliff, right, but you're running back something that

1149
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 10: probably will give you again about eight or nine wins.

1150
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the questions are about the offense. To me,

1151
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 5: I feel confident in Todd Bowles, and then that brings

1152
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 5: me back to Baker Mayfield. Like, I know it was

1153
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 5: a fantastic season, But am I going to see Baker

1154
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 5: Mayfield in this vision of the same way I see

1155
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins in the same way I see Dak Prescott

1156
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: or Jalen Hurts. I just don't know if Baker gets

1157
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 5: them over that line where you can have that continuity

1158
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 5: when it's Tom Brady because you're gonna have an opportunity.

1159
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 5: I don't know the variance that Baker Mayfield provides is

1160
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 5: enough to get what's left of that team.

1161
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 10: And it's another year where Baker Mayfield goes through a

1162
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 10: coordinator switch. I know he's happy with Liam Comban. It's

1163
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 10: like it's another one of these.

1164
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: If you're willing to go that high for Baker salary wise,

1165
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: why not rework a couple more deals and make a

1166
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: real play for Kirk And then you don't, and then

1167
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 2: he ends up in your own division and he goes

1168
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: to the team that has the otherwise a roster otherwise

1169
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: built to contend best in that division.

1170
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: Time out, time out, time out.

1171
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: Now, it's understandable that you might have just listened to

1172
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: those three minutes and said, Tad critical there, Yeah, Daddy Rich,

1173
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: So I have a dissenting opinion. This dissenting opinion is

1174
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 2: actually the owner of West Bromwich Albion Football Club WO

1175
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: and also a Bucks super fan, Shelln Patel.

1176
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 4: This break News is a world exclusive.

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Speaker 12: Hey their heroes. Longtime listener, first time agitator. I've been

1178
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 12: a lot more focused on football than football this offseason.

1179
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 12: But when I heard that the Tugboat was trashing the

1180
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 12: Bucks offseason moves. I had to step in and defend

1181
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 12: my guys. The Buck's main job this offseason was to

1182
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 12: retain or extend for all pro players, and those were

1183
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 12: Mike Evans, Antoine Winfield, Junior, Levonte David, and Tristan Wurfs.

1184
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 12: And they're well on track to doing that. And a

1185
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 12: big reason why is because Baker is who Baker is

1186
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 12: and because he did the deal that he did, and

1187
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 12: so I think the Bucks have the right combination of

1188
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 12: players to feast on a week division. And I'm glad

1189
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 12: that Dan's sleeping on the Bucks, and I'm glad people

1190
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 12: are sleeping in the Bucks because that seems to be

1191
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 12: when they do their best work. Going into the draft,

1192
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 12: They've got a couple holes O line, edge rush and

1193
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 12: DB's and you know, Jason Light's been good at getting

1194
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 12: O linemen and DB's in the draft. And we'll have

1195
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 12: to figure out how to get the best Edgresher we can.

1196
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 12: But I think we still have the opportunity to beat

1197
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 12: up on a weak division. The Panthers are drash, the

1198
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 12: Saints are still figuring things out, and I don't think

1199
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 12: the Falcon's got so much better with the Kirk Cousins

1200
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 12: coming off an achilles injury to really scare us away

1201
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 12: from from aiming for our fourth straight division crown. So

1202
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 12: go Bucks and up the Albion.

1203
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 10: Wow, you go boing boing, that's good comeback because I

1204
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 10: think I think the Winfield thing, the way they handle

1205
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 10: that matters, And you know, there would have been a

1206
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 10: fair excuse for the post Tom Brady Bucks just to

1207
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 10: disappear entirely, and Light has navigated. I mean, you keep

1208
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 10: the good players that you have and you keep adding more.

1209
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 10: But it's like, I could there are worse fan experiences

1210
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 10: right now.

1211
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: Jason Light's sneaky been there for a decade now. A

1212
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: good job by him navigating all these different errors, and

1213
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: he really he really is a good drafter, Like he

1214
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: really does fill in at dB very well. They need

1215
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: they just need more players that are getting better. I

1216
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: feel like they have a lot of players like Godwin,

1217
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: like Evans, like Baker Frankly who have like they're not

1218
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 3: going to get better.

1219
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: We know that they need to be that good just.

1220
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: To get out scored in aggregate by like twenty points

1221
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: over the last two years.

1222
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: So it's like you need some younger players that are getting.

1223
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 5: Better and Rashaan White stepped up and we're still talking bucks.

1224
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah out, that's what the tom outs for. And I

1225
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 5: think you keep the guys that are going to be

1226
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 5: in your ring of honor one day, right. And in

1227
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 5: terms of like Mike Evans, I feel could have gotten

1228
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 5: a better offer elsewhere. I think Baker Mayfield perhaps could

1229
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 5: have waited things out and saw where Kirk went and

1230
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 5: got some more money. But Jason Light the folks in

1231
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 5: Tampa convincing them to I think they should be celebrated

1232
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 5: for that. I just don't see where the ceiling, like,

1233
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 5: where's that surprisis.

1234
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of all about continentity because when I look

1235
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: at this deptart man, they do have like these guys

1236
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 3: have all played together for a while, not continuity. In

1237
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: terms of the offensive coordinator. That's a little bit of

1238
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: a concern because Liam Cohen is the one guy from

1239
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: the Sean McVay tree that really didn't get a bump

1240
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: that he got it. He got bumped off the Rams

1241
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: roster by Sean McVay.

1242
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: That clear headed, concise take is classic Shelyn Patel and.

1243
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 3: That's why he's running an actual sports team that you

1244
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: hear a team owner call another team trash, But I

1245
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: like that. You gotta love that different sport. I mean,

1246
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: and some of the press he's getting out there.

1247
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: Here's BBC Shlyn Pateel, West Brom owner aiming high m

1248
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 2: dash but with realism and patience. How about this from

1249
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 2: Express and Star. Shelyn Pateel is already giving West Brom

1250
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: fans something they have been craving.

1251
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: Crave. That's what he was just on our show Arrow Up.

1252
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: That's our budget. Craving is important, as I learned and

1253
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: Love is Blind season six, do.

1254
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 10: You have us like a little money stake in this show?

1255
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 10: Was like the fourteenth time you brought this.

1256
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: It was like grave when Dan, when you weren't here.

1257
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: Patrick and I actually did like five minutes on Love

1258
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: Is Blind season six, and then I told Eric to

1259
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: take it out of the show.

1260
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: Were you are for this?

1261
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I mean I've not. I watched like two

1262
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 10: episodes of season one and.

1263
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: Then afterwards I was like, you know what, let's just

1264
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: take that out.

1265
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 5: But incredible, Maybe maybe we could put it on plack

1266
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 5: on the list if if folks want to hear that

1267
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 5: five minutes.

1268
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: I was going to say you could have done it

1269
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: could have been a satellite pod. But isn't that already

1270
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: meanest territory.

1271
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: There you go. The season's long over. NFL plus I

1272
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: think would it would would.

1273
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: They'll take it?

1274
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, bus will take a little Love is Blind recap.

1275
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: I've moved on to blown Away and Top Chef. I

1276
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: like that last blowing competition underrated blown Away.

1277
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for the update.

1278
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and we will finish

1279
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: out the NFC with the West.

1280
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: All Right, we're back.

1281
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 10: The show is continuing. Let's move to the NFC West.

1282
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 10: The Arizona Cardinals with Greg Wow. I love that you

1283
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 10: did the whole thing. The Arizona Cardinals. All right, they exist?

1284
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 10: Hey was them all? We're talking about your team for

1285
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 10: the first time. I feel like all off season they

1286
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 10: have been quiet. Little surprise year two of this regime

1287
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 10: that they aren't stirring things up a little more.

1288
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 4: Marky S.

1289
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: Brown, Rondel Moore out the door. They really don't have

1290
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: any wide receivers. You get rid of DJ Humphreys at tackle,

1291
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: you get Joanah Williams.

1292
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: You have some rotational defensive lineman. But this is still

1293
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: a team.

1294
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 3: If you were just guessing who has like a top

1295
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 3: five pick next year. They might them, and the Panthers

1296
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: still have the most to work out. They need a

1297
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: number one wide receiver right now, it's Michael Wilson or Dorsch.

1298
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 3: Like they need a ton on the defensive line. I

1299
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: don't know if they're putting Kyler Murray in the best

1300
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: position to succeed right now.

1301
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of help on this roster right now.

1302
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: That's my concern too.

1303
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 10: And they have been talked about, you know, Monte Austin

1304
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 10: Fort Lakes to compile draft picks, that that's a target

1305
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 10: in the draft where someone could move up to get

1306
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 10: that QB four or Marvin Harrison Junior.

1307
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson is a good player.

1308
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 10: I thought he showed a lot of promise, but he

1309
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 10: seems like a good number two.

1310
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: Greg is Derritch is interesting too.

1311
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 10: When Zach Pascal is the other guy, you can't I

1312
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 10: don't think you can afford to move out of that

1313
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 10: spot and pass up on like Marvin Harrison Junior. I

1314
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 10: think you've got to give Kyler Murray in the rest

1315
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 10: of this offense a chance.

1316
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 5: And I feel like, considering what Kyler has been through,

1317
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 5: I have more confidence this season than I did a

1318
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 5: couple of other seasons ago in terms of Kyler coming

1319
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 5: back with an opportunity to be healthy, coming into the year,

1320
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 5: and seeing these other quarterback situations and the way things

1321
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 5: have kind of been a success or a disaster.

1322
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: There hasn't been a lot of in between.

1323
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 5: Kyler's probably that quarterback that's been the in between where

1324
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 5: we haven't gotten what we wanted. But there's still hope

1325
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 5: of some promise. I think we see that come to fruition.

1326
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: I thought he fit well in this system.

1327
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Michael Wilson is maybe not as solid

1328
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 5: as a one as you would like. But the year

1329
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 5: two there is cause to be positive about.

1330
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: It's good from a Cardinals fan perspective that you can

1331
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: just kind of get things back.

1332
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 4: You got the doat, you got the boat out of

1333
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 4: the dock.

1334
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: Now it's the repairs are done, and maybe we could

1335
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: go out on the high season and do some things.

1336
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: Because you had all the drama around Kyler with the contract,

1337
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: that he blows his knee out, then you're waiting for

1338
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: him to return. Now we can go into a new

1339
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: season with a fresh start. There's so much work to

1340
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: do on the roster obviously, and you lose Hollywood Brown,

1341
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: DJ Humphries. There's work to be done, Greg, But at

1342
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: least you have Kyler starting fresh and healthy, and let's

1343
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 2: see once and for all if he is that dude.

1344
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: I'm confident in him. I thought he fit well in

1345
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: that system. I thought they coached really well on both

1346
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 3: sides of the ball, like Gannon was cooking up pretty

1347
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 3: creative game plans without a lot of talent. But that

1348
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: lack of talent is still there, so they really need

1349
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: to start hitting, like Justin Jones. They gave twenty million

1350
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: dollars guaranteed. That was their big move on defense, a

1351
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 3: guy that the Bears, you know, weren't exactly in love.

1352
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: With the rams Aaron Donald, less rams of Patrick Claybon.

1353
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 5: And it's such We've talked about the Philadelphia Eagles having

1354
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 5: to deal with the first ballot Hall of Famer not

1355
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 5: being on the team. Still playing very well, Aaron Donald

1356
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 5: was still playing exceedingly good football, and he was getting

1357
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 5: the Lion's share of attention as he always would. But

1358
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 5: the contributions from Kobe Turner last year, maybe because of

1359
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 5: what Will Anderson did, kind of got slept on. Overall,

1360
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 5: on his same team, Pooka kind of stealing his shine

1361
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 5: a little bit. They've done so well in the draft,

1362
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 5: and Sean McVay hasn't actually gone to the combine since

1363
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, and I'm wondering, are the ramps proving that

1364
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 5: does anybody need to go to the combine the way

1365
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 5: that Less is cranking out these very very good players

1366
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 5: later on in the draft.

1367
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what they do this year. That's

1368
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: my only question. The coaches need to go to the combine.

1369
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 10: I think it's funny because Sean McVay, like, from from

1370
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 10: a cynical angle, he could say, oh, he wants to

1371
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 10: you know, work Less.

1372
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that at all.

1373
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 10: But it's like the first kind of coach to totally

1374
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 10: goes to combine like he he doesn't want to do

1375
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 10: anything in the preseason. These are two like building blocks

1376
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 10: of the NFL offseason into regular action, and he just

1377
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 10: dismisses them both.

1378
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: And last year was one of the best coaching jobs

1379
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL.

1380
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: I thought, well, he's not picking the players, certainly not

1381
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: on defense. I do worry a little bit that they're

1382
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: they're rolling back this idea of like now it's Chris

1383
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: Shula as the defense court. It's like, we're just trying

1384
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 3: to be average on defense and we're gonna invest sixty

1385
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: six million dollars guaranteed at guard in Jonah Jackson and

1386
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: Kevin Dotson, which I they're gonna be fun. It's like,

1387
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm it's a creative way that they've attacked this offseason.

1388
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: I like Cam Curle. They brought Bacterius Williams, but also

1389
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: Kella Witherspoon.

1390
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: Is it for you?

1391
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 3: Just like no Aaron Donald and you're going cheap a

1392
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: little bit on defense and it's a new defensive coordinator

1393
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: like Raheem did a nice job coaching this defense up

1394
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: and counting on that again might be you know, expecting

1395
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 3: too much.

1396
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 4: I liked the way JB.

1397
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: Long put it on the show on Monday that Donald,

1398
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: you lose Donald and it's massive and it's incalculable and

1399
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: we're going to see how they move on. But he

1400
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: was there as a transition with your boy Kobe Turner,

1401
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: Greg Ee and that defense getting its sea legs in

1402
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: real time and ending up almost almost getting too the

1403
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: divisional playoff Iron Young two. I still think there was

1404
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: a world where they win the Super Bowl last year,

1405
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: it was like one in twenty.

1406
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: I think there was a whorld. Yeah.

1407
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 4: JB was kind of hitting at that.

1408
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: If they can get by that first game, it's kind

1409
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: of a wide open.

1410
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 4: You never know.

1411
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: And so I get why the way they're playing this

1412
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: offseason and they're looking to kind of build in this

1413
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: like Mock two or is it mock three now Sean

1414
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: mcvay's tenure there, keep the quarterback up right, and you know,

1415
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: the sky's the limit.

1416
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: I think on offense, they remind me a little bit

1417
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: of the Colts back in the day. Now, the Colts

1418
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 3: had a couple like Hall of famers or near hall

1419
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 3: of famers on defense. But it's just like, invest in

1420
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: offense every year, try to be a top three offense

1421
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 3: every year. Hope the defense is good enough and will

1422
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 3: win ten games at worst with our offense.

1423
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: The Seattle Seahawks, I got this one. So I feel

1424
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: like for years now, the Seahawks have been parked in

1425
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: a cul de sac neighborhood. That's that's fine, it's nice.

1426
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: The houses are not luxurious, but comfortable. The people, you know,

1427
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: the people maintain their yards and the neighbors get along

1428
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: and it's a nice place to trick or treat, but

1429
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: also not the place you go if you're hoping to

1430
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: get full candy bars. You know what I'm saying. There's

1431
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. I Gus Brandon many yeah, the

1432
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: many ones. No, I'm talking about the full bars, the

1433
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: ones Connor organ out right, you got to go to

1434
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: a different neighborhood. I imagine that's where that's where they want.

1435
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: To be eventually.

1436
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: Okay, And I think this is a pretty decent roster

1437
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: with you know, good players on defense. They have talent

1438
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: on offense, you know, a replacement level quarterback but not

1439
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: a bad player, not a not a major issue. And

1440
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: that kind of set up with good coaching. And we'll

1441
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: see how Mike McDonald is. Is a recipe for nine

1442
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: or ten wins, maybe a one off road trip in

1443
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs, But is there something more to aspire to?

1444
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: Does this team have the ambition to try to move

1445
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: out of that neighborhood? As Brandon Flowers of the Killers

1446
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: once said, there's nothing wrong with working class, but what

1447
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: if there's more out there? The American dream as it were.

1448
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 10: I love change, and like the Seahawks started to feel

1449
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,959
Speaker 10: a little stale to me under Pete Carroll.

1450
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: As much as I like Pete Carroll, I think Mike McDonald.

1451
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: Think that's part of like what the setup of Carol

1452
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: moving on is because I think they get that.

1453
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: All time Hall of Fame type coaches indicating they want

1454
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: to change the neighborhoods.

1455
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 10: I think Mike McDonald is going to be a huge

1456
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 10: story next year. There's something about his vibe just watching

1457
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 10: a couple of his press conferences, like, I think that

1458
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 10: the Seahawks needed this. And I'm not down on Geno

1459
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 10: Smith or anything, but I thought that Sam Howell trade

1460
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 10: was intriguing because this, to me, is a starter in development.

1461
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 10: Who if things get a little shaky at quarterback. Sam

1462
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 10: Howell is much more spicy to me than Drew Locke

1463
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 10: as a number two who can come in and at

1464
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 10: times look really good.

1465
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, yeah, I mean Sam Howell takes risks,

1466
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 5: he holds onto the ball way too long, but he

1467
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 5: can go out there and get buckets. There was a

1468
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 5: time last year where he was leading the NFL in passing.

1469
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 5: I don't think it's enough to dethron Gino, but what

1470
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 5: it does is it gives you value at the backup

1471
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 5: position where all these backups are playing, and you know,

1472
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 5: we see a team's actual commitment and how they feel

1473
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 5: about their starter, perhaps considering where the backup is and

1474
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 5: how good he is, where they're not necessarily concerned about

1475
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 5: the starter psyche or whatever's going to ruin.

1476
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: Gino like that. He's been through everything.

1477
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 5: But do you know, talent wise on defense, I think

1478
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 5: there's there's some room to improve. On offense, run of

1479
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 5: the ball. It just got to keep people healthy. But

1480
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 5: I think they can get there. I think they're on

1481
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 5: the precipice. It's just hard, especially in this division.

1482
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: Their biggest move was just bringing Lenny Williams back and

1483
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 3: then they had resigning no offense, so they haven't gone

1484
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: outside that much. They have new linebackers Tyroe Dodds and

1485
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 3: Jerome Baker I thought were smart.

1486
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: Eleven core guys have left the.

1487
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: Team final time out. I really wasn't trying to be

1488
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: a jerk about Gino. I'm just where does he fit

1489
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: on the the Dalton line.

1490
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: He's definitely above it. Yeah, so I don't think it's

1491
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 3: replacement based.

1492
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: On It's not Miles last year's play also or just

1493
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 2: the year that everyone remembers.

1494
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 3: I think he played really well down the stretch last year,

1495
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: and if you look at kind of the pop the

1496
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: hood numbers, even the PFF grades stuff, the two years

1497
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 3: were very, very similar. I think he's been a little

1498
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 3: streaky within those years, but they didn't blockwell for him.

1499
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 3: He threw well down the field all season. He's not

1500
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: a perfect quarterback, but I think he was safely above that.

1501
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 3: To me, he was in that like ten to twelve

1502
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 3: range both years.

1503
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 10: Oh okay, I mean I thought when we were in

1504
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 10: London we watched him make some that just watching him

1505
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 10: together at the same time, like Gino can whip the

1506
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 10: ball down field, and I honestly think he is higher

1507
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 10: than the Dalton line. Mike McDonald did not come out

1508
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,440
Speaker 10: screaming and shouting about he's definitely their starter.

1509
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 3: But their actions, their actions Patrick's point kind of showed like, yeah,

1510
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: they brought in a backup, backup who has a similar

1511
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: skill set in some ways other than the running to Gino, and.

1512
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: A backup that can then learn from Geno.

1513
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 5: I think like for every twenty seconds we spend talking

1514
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 5: about Sam Darnold, then that should mean at least twenty

1515
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 5: minutes of Gino discussion.

1516
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: Well, Donald, to me, is because that's something critical way.

1517
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 10: I do think we spent in the high well, we do,

1518
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 10: say twenty minutes talking about Geno Smith on every preview show.

1519
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 4: We've given money of Geno Smith conversation on that.

1520
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: I think Donald, though, would be closer to a replacement level. Yeah,

1521
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 3: you know, based on his contract, Like I guess that's

1522
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 3: what I think.

1523
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: We're at a different.

1524
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: We don't know about Donald, but yeah, right now he

1525
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: needs to prove that he can even or bakery even.

1526
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 5: We don't know about Donald, but a few years ago

1527
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 5: we were absolutely certain about Gino right too.

1528
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: He's fine too. Uh, I gotta get you know what,

1529
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: I got to get Nick Schuk in here. Shuk's got

1530
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: him eighteen And I think that is a nice spot.

1531
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: Two years, last two years, Combine charted passing this from

1532
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 3: football inside on throws fifteen yards dunfield. You know, Gino

1533
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: Smith the number one most accurate quarterback in the league.

1534
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: I think, what like when he's got his issues hold

1535
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: the ball sometimes he's almost too aggressive, but when he

1536
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 3: sets up to throw, the ball goes where he wants

1537
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: it to go about as well as any quarterback in

1538
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: the league, which is a great starting point.

1539
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 10: I think like maybe Dan where you're coming from, because

1540
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 10: it's kind of how I feel. It's just like, okay, cool,

1541
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 10: so Gino Smith's your quarterback. Let's see how that right.

1542
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: Don't get it twisted. I just said they live in

1543
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: a nice neighborhood. Yeah right, he's part of that. It

1544
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: was it was a replacement level.

1545
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 5: Like even if eighteen is replacement level, then like we

1546
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 5: should be in.

1547
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: Like I mean to be top five, top ten quarters.

1548
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are saying, like the fact that

1549
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: I could even bring up that Gino is someone that

1550
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: could be replaced and they can get better at the

1551
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 2: position is no they were thought?

1552
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: Is I'm sorry? Like I just I fundamentally disagree with that.

1553
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 3: They certainly, I think thought about it. But I think

1554
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 3: if he's in a situation with everything great around him,

1555
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: like he's going to put up numbers like Jared Goff

1556
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 3: for better. I think last year he played well. He

1557
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: played well down the stretch. He probably saved his job.

1558
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 4: It's not bad.

1559
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: I listen, agree to disagree, I agree, I agree to disagree,

1560
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 2: and I respect your opinions.

1561
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: So you're saying you're saying you're disagree, so I disagree,

1562
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: but I respect the hell out of you. So it

1563
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: wasn't it was a shot.

1564
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: At a shot at Gino in that I don't see

1565
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: him as highly as you doesn't mean it's a shot.

1566
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 4: It's just I don't see him in the same at

1567
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 4: the same level.

1568
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah.

1569
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: Time in time in close it out. Mark With the Niners,

1570
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: they have been my pet team for years.

1571
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: They have.

1572
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 10: I mean I think they came in there was you know,

1573
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 10: there was reporting that their number one priority they lose

1574
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 10: Eric Armstead and Chase Young, that they wanted to make

1575
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 10: sure that they kept that defensive line Humming and Leonard Floyd.

1576
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 10: Nice pickup they trade from Lee Collins. I trust that

1577
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 10: this will just work out for the Niners.

1578
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: On some level.

1579
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 10: I see two mysteries, the kind of lingered number one like,

1580
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 10: does Brandon Ayuk get moved before the draft?

1581
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 4: There are there they were linked hanging around out there.

1582
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 10: Jaguars were linked as a team interested the Steelers. Maybe not,

1583
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 10: but he's in the last year of his contracts, so

1584
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 10: you're already paying in one of your one of your

1585
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 10: your other wide outs a.

1586
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: Ton of money.

1587
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 10: And it's like, I don't like seeing that that offense

1588
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 10: lose even one of those pieces because they're so overwhelming.

1589
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 10: I think the second thing for me and I just

1590
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 10: get this feeling about the Niners and maybe it's just

1591
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 10: like I don't know, I feel like psychologically or in

1592
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 10: terms of like a spiritual like feeling inside the building,

1593
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 10: like how many more breaking points can the Kyle Shanahan

1594
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 10: experience take because it's like every season has been so

1595
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 10: heart breaking. It kind of reminds me of like the

1596
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 10: Saints team that had three terrible playoff losses three years

1597
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 10: in a row, and they've really never been the same.

1598
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 10: I mean, it's just like you get so close and

1599
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 10: it's like, is there a point where we just don't

1600
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 10: assume they win fourteen fifteen games.

1601
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: I think it's a great question from like a human standpoint,

1602
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: because these losses.

1603
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 4: Aren't just any losses.

1604
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean you look at the Super Bowl defeats, the

1605
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 2: Title Game defeat, like these are kind of feeling like

1606
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: the world is. They're winning in overtime of the Super

1607
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 2: Bowl a couple months ago, and they can't get over

1608
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: the hump. And at one point, yeah, it is that

1609
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: like psychologically just damage you offensively. They will return all

1610
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: of their starters and they're the to my mind, the

1611
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: best offense in the NFL. Yeah, they could try to

1612
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: improve their offensive line and do some things. I don't

1613
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: think they'll trade at Yuk, although supposedly they were open

1614
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 2: to it. Like they I think if Jacksonville was going

1615
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: to give up that number seventeen overall pick, they would

1616
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: have done it.

1617
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: And if I was Jacksonville, I would do that.

1618
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna be a thing because the offense has

1619
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 5: proliferated literally across the entire NFL, and you have Brandon

1620
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 5: Ayuk who's learned it from the person who we associate

1621
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 5: this offense with and has gone through all those trials

1622
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 5: and tribulations. It would be a mistake to move him.

1623
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 5: But to Mark's point, like physically, I think we saw

1624
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 5: the accumulation of all those extra football games on the

1625
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs and the forty nine Ers played literally

1626
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 5: the same number of games, but it didn't turn out

1627
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 5: in the way that they wanted at the end. But

1628
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 5: over and over again, to deal with that, you're eventually

1629
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 5: going to get an extra seasons worth of football and

1630
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 5: playing all of these games, and there's such a physical team,

1631
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 5: I think it does add up. Not to discount them,

1632
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 5: but like over and over again at some point and.

1633
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: This is the first year mark about the questions about

1634
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: the defense are fair now after the way they struggled

1635
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: down the stretch and they've lost players and it's going

1636
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: to be.

1637
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: Smoos Malie Collins, Leonard Floyd, Jordan Elliott kind of another radar,

1638
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 3: a lot of rotational guys.

1639
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: On their defense. The defensive corner.

1640
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: We go out with a dart as we must. We

1641
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 2: just went around the NFC. We went around FC a

1642
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: day earlier. So now you have all thirty two team cup.

1643
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: We were thinking there was a year a few years

1644
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: back where we've missed the team skipped, the team got.

1645
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean very I never ever agree when or hardly

1646
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: ever agree when we're getting criticism on social media or whatever,

1647
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: like oh you hate my team, you got they always

1648
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: hate this team. But when you get your team skipped

1649
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: in this in this exercise, we we will take the

1650
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: l but I think we I think we're covered.

1651
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: But especially if you're waiting like you're the fourth division.

1652
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: Oh so you've maginated through. It's not forty eight minutes.

1653
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 10: It's gone forty eight minutes, and then like your team

1654
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 10: doesn't get it's like big slack.

1655
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: That's only once, and we started doing these around the

1656
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: AFC NFCS pretty early on in the run of this show.

1657
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: I would guess we've been doing it for like, say,

1658
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: our batting average is pretty good. Yeah, I'm just saying

1659
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: we only missed one team.

1660
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: You know, eight hundred's probably nine ninety up in here.

1661
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 6: I like to say, if you forgot about a team,

1662
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 6: I mean, probably not that big of a deal.

1663
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it might have been the bills also,

1664
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: but this was during like the forget abills.

1665
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 4: Probably warranted then.

1666
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: That you forgot about it.

1667
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you're kind of doubling down here, you guys.

1668
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 10: The next episode we probably spent like twenty minutes talking

1669
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 10: about the bill.

1670
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: We make it up to people when we do.

1671
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 3: Sure it might have been the EJ Manual Tyride era bills.

1672
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: I believe it was a while. It was a while ago.

1673
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: Eric second EJ Manual reference this week.

1674
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 2: By the way, Eric, now it's time to put down

1675
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: the gun. And I think sometimes another risk that we take.

1676
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 2: And I just did get a report that Andrew's doing

1677
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: great and he's going to be real. It's good to

1678
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: hear later today. Have we created a monster now? Will

1679
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: he be able to step out of the studio and

1680
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: realize that time in his life is over and he

1681
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: needs to become a civilian again.

1682
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question.

1683
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 10: I would say that if memory serves, and I'm thinking

1684
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 10: of like you know, Eric and others that every producer

1685
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 10: that's had like the Taser weapon has gone absolutely nuts

1686
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 10: with it. I think it's it's a powerful it's a

1687
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 10: powerful feeling.

1688
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: You have to have a.

1689
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 5: Structure in place for once he gets home, you know,

1690
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 5: a code, yes, and you not necessarily that Eric needs leadership,

1691
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 5: but he said, you know, he is an order follower,

1692
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 5: and so he needs that structure in place to work,

1693
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 5: not just at home. Like you know, we got word

1694
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 5: from Kensington Palace yesterday that Kate is working at home right,

1695
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 5: work from home we can trust, We can trust that,

1696
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 5: and so I just want Eric to be able to

1697
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 5: dart from home safely.

1698
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, I appreciate it.

1699
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: Guys.

1700
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:08,919
Speaker 2: Let's go out with Alex Badura's song simply titled Patrick Claybunk.

1701
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: We'll be back next week now, GREGGI, you are taking

1702
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 2: a much deserved vacation next week.

1703
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: I am, Yeah, So enjoy that.

1704
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 3: ARENTS meeting up for the first time since their wedding

1705
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: seventeen years ago.

1706
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: Bicy where it's undisclosed. Okay. Oh now Hawaii.

1707
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: Nice so and then I'll be taking off the next

1708
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: week going to the same island, so we'll.

1709
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: See it Tuesday, Patrick Claybom.

1710
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 4: Until then, heath the call.

1711
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 9: You are the man We men, Tom.

1712
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 1: What a guy, what a stunn

1713
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 10: Um