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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode thirty three of the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: Here with Kelsey Ballerini and our sponsored blue apron and

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Speaker 1: one hundred flowers. Thank you to those guys. Hello Kelsey, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Do you know that the funny thing is I feel like,

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Speaker 1: for the first timember, I actually researched you because I

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Speaker 1: was like, what in the world is there about Kelsey

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know? Because I was trying to find

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Speaker 1: an angle with these I did, I actually did. I've

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Speaker 1: found something I did not know about you, and I'll

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Speaker 1: get to it in a second. But it was weird

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Speaker 1: because I mean, we've known each other since I mean

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Speaker 1: I've been here really two and a half years probably, Yeah, Ever,

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Speaker 1: I think funny, that's ever. But um, so I started

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Speaker 1: looking things up. I didn't know you were in college here.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea for two years. So you moved

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Speaker 1: out to Nashville at what age? Okay, so you moved

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Speaker 1: out here and your mom comes with you. My mom

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Speaker 1: came with me. She got a job here from outside Knoxville.

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Speaker 1: From Knoxville. Yeah, so you she gets a job here.

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Speaker 1: What is it? You're a kid and you want to

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Speaker 1: move to Nashville and be an artist, and she just

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Speaker 1: moved and got a new job because of that. Well

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I started writing when I was twelve loved it,

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Speaker 1: but I danced for ten years and then gy like

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Speaker 1: gymnastics and loved that too, And so I think I

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Speaker 1: liked a lot of things. But um, I think Mom

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Speaker 1: kind of watched it go from like a hobby to

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Speaker 1: and not just doing in my spare time or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And and so we started coming out here on the

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Speaker 1: people and going to writers rounds and seeing what it

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Speaker 1: was about. At twelve, I had my first demo session

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Speaker 1: out here when I was like thirteen years old. Back then,

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Speaker 1: it was when you hire a bunch of studio musicians

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Speaker 1: and you like have an engineer and they come in

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Speaker 1: and you play them your song. I played it on

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Speaker 1: Good car Um because I didn't have a recording of it,

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Speaker 1: and they do the Nashville number system, write it all down,

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Speaker 1: go in, play your song like two or three times down,

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Speaker 1: and then go to the next song, and it kind

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Speaker 1: and I mean was just like I thought it was

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Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever. And actually, random story, there was

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Speaker 1: big studio musicians. They're probably not going to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go in and do what they do. You know,

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Speaker 1: they probably have three of these books today, four of

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Speaker 1: afterwards Eddie Bear comes up to me and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: who did you write these songs with? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: and he walked out, And I'll never forget it because

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Speaker 1: I just was ready for no one to talk to me,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that he talked to me and he

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Speaker 1: And then I started playing the opery and he's now

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Speaker 1: from playing the operate too. I played it a couple

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Speaker 1: you remembered me? Do you remember me? He wasn't there

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Speaker 1: though what he meant to you with those few words passing?

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Speaker 1: He probably doesn't remember. I did tell him absolutely, because

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Speaker 1: Back to you going to college here, what you gotta

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Speaker 1: home school for high school? Oh? I went to high school.

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Speaker 1: So you go to this school. Are there other artists

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Speaker 1: How difficult was it for you to stop one of college?

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Speaker 1: Not difficult, It wasn't. So it was well I was

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Speaker 1: that you make money. You pay back all the money

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Speaker 1: I was ready to do an artist deal. But that

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Speaker 1: another artist, this is your percentage whatever. But if you

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Speaker 1: get on this? So did they feel like you were

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Speaker 1: we're on something and we don't know what yet. This

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Speaker 1: might be me um. And then we ended up writing

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Speaker 1: in a second. When you walk to I have six

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Speaker 1: Apron dot Com slash Bobby Right, it's all right. Blue

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Speaker 1: Apron dot Com slash Bobby. Alright, so, um, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about your second single, So DIBs comes out, and how

430
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Speaker 1: did that one get picked? Did you go into a

431
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Speaker 1: meeting a vote but they already had like a bunch

432
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Speaker 1: of DIBs hats. You know, it's funny, I don't. I

433
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: don't even really remember having a meeting about Dibbs. I think, yeah, UM,

434
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: when I when I did my radio tour, we played

435
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: three songs acoustic every station visit, and it was loved Me, Dibbs,

436
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: and Peter Pan. So I think we always knew that

437
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: those were our three um, and we knew that we

438
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: needed to be really careful on Peter Pan. And I

439
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: think that let ME set us up to kind of

440
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: do something and we didn't know what it was yet,

441
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: but I think that we needed to re establish that

442
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: sound before we changed it. I think that was our

443
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: our theory with that, because Love Me was such a

444
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: left of center song sonically, and Dibbs kind of had

445
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: that same tempo, that same feel um and a lot

446
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: of people criticize that and said it was the same song,

447
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: and in some ways it it is. But you know

448
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: what's weird and you say that, I'm gonna just say Okay,

449
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: it had the same field. It was left of center,

450
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: you said at the time it was, and now it's not,

451
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: and now it's not. Yeah, absolutely like and all of

452
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: these are artists that end up making it in pop

453
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: and not in pop. They make it because they pop,

454
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: it's because what they were doing was left of center

455
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Speaker 1: at the time time. I talked to Sam Hunt today

456
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: and Sam and I have become oddly friendlier than just

457
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: a than no, not not romantically, but but more than

458
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: just a radio host and artist because like me, Sam

459
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: is very like like if we're not on, we're not on,

460
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: and we we like our time to write, and like

461
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Speaker 1: I'll sit in my room before hours just right, jokes

462
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: are right, are working on the book. And so but

463
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Speaker 1: we were talking today and I was like, just for

464
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Speaker 1: a second, like, think about everybody that told you that

465
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Speaker 1: your sound was not going to work, and it was

466
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Speaker 1: like most people to even my own people told me

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Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna work because it was so left the center.

468
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: But He's like, it was it was what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do, and I was gonna go down with my

470
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: own thoughts. And so as you say left the center,

471
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: now you've created it in the middle. Like you were

472
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: the one that made this the middle sound. It's cool

473
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Speaker 1: to think about. You're the one that I mean I

474
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Speaker 1: can like Lauren a great friend of mine, Laura Lena,

475
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Speaker 1: Like she's able to put out that song because I've

476
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: loved me like you mean it. Bro, let's travel. It

477
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Speaker 1: is able to come out because I loved me like

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Speaker 1: you mean it. I saw her well, I I saw

479
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Speaker 1: a clip of her singing Peter pan Carreokive either Day,

480
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: and I thought it was the coolest thing I've ever seen.

481
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Speaker 1: By the way, No, Laura Lena does not get the

482
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Speaker 1: credit she deserved for being one of the best singers

483
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Speaker 1: in town. Periods dumb period now. And I was like,

484
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Speaker 1: please don't actually sing that song because no one's gonna

485
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: want me to sing it anymore. So she's so good

486
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: and she's also a really a good songwriter, and you

487
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Speaker 1: don't and I oddly have and because I you know,

488
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: kids music and comedy music, and she she's quick man

489
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: and Lauren's been into before and it's just a great person.

490
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: So but you just saying left to center put me

491
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Speaker 1: on that. It's not even more. Yeah, you've made it

492
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: middle and so now, but what you're gonna do is

493
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna take another sound and go left again with

494
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 1: this next record, because one you can have the ability

495
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: to and too you have to, I have to. And

496
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Speaker 1: so okay, so Dives comes out, it goes number one?

497
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Speaker 1: Is it? Which was on Don't give Me the Surprise?

498
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Speaker 1: If it really wasn't a surprise, well, listen, this is

499
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: what happened. So it was a really tough song. Dives

500
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: was our toughest song because radio liked it and during

501
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: radio tour they were like, is this gonna be single? Like, yeah,

502
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: we think it'll be second, but um, it didn't sell

503
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Speaker 1: well really and um. And then when it got up

504
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: to the top like five, which we were stoked about

505
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: because we didn't know if it was going to happen

506
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: because it got stuck in the thirties for a while. Um,

507
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: it got up to the top five and Granger had

508
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: just got number one with on the Verge and he

509
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: was pushing for a second week, and it was the

510
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: week that we were trying to push for number one,

511
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Speaker 1: and it went down to the very last hour of

512
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: the art and I remember being like, okay, like you're

513
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: geting number two and that's fine, Like you're fine. And

514
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: I was at home in my old apartment getting my

515
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: hair done. I had foiled in my hair, and as

516
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: I got closer and closer Megan, our friend Megan, was

517
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: sending me I was with Megan that night. We were

518
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Speaker 1: in Austin. You were doing a stand up comedy. We

519
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: were all together that night. Okay, yes, waiting to see

520
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Speaker 1: if do you remember how close it was? No, I'm

521
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: telling you. I finished the show because because it's midnight

522
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Pacific time is what counts, because Eastern comes in. Yes,

523
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: it's like the new Ryan Ceacrest New Year's like, you're

524
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Speaker 1: going all the way down. And I finished my stand

525
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: up comedy show at like thirty or eleven, which you

526
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: mean it's nine Pacific. So they're like we're going to

527
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: the bar and waiting and watching the charts. It was hectic.

528
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: I just remember as he got closer and closer, Megan's like,

529
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Speaker 1: we might get it. It's still really close. So I

530
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: started inviting some of my friends over just in case

531
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Speaker 1: it happened, just a case it didn't, you know. And

532
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: so before I knew it, like I have like thirty

533
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: people in my time, me little one bedroom apartment, foils

534
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: in my hair and I get the call and they're like,

535
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: we got it. It's number one and um and I

536
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: have a video of all of it. And then Hunter

537
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Hayes was over UM with his girlfriend Libby and he

538
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: like made this beautiful toast and like it ended up

539
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: being like the coolest night of my life because we

540
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: were just like, is this going to happen? We don't

541
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna get it, and we got it

542
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: and ended up being like a really cool celebration. And

543
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: having two number one gives you the ability to fail

544
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: next and still have some strong feet, yeah, And that's

545
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Speaker 1: why we risked it with Peter Pan. And it was

546
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: a risk because one year a girl yeah and too

547
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: it's a it's a ballot, yeah, and at the and

548
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: even now that's not the safest thing, but real back,

549
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: but then when we were talking even a year ago,

550
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: it really wasn't a safe play at all. And there

551
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: was a lot of mid tempo and slow ballads on

552
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: radio at the time. It was when they all started

553
00:26:53,520 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: to come out of the same time. Yes, tell me

554
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: about the song. Oh man, this was like I feel

555
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: like we all knew that this was our like our

556
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: song that would change the game. And it did, and

557
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I think in different ways than we really even knew.

558
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: But um, I wrote this song with Jesse Lee and Forest,

559
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: who I wrote with today actually randomly. UM, And I

560
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: remember was my first rite with Jesse. And I remember

561
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Jesse as an artist when I moved to town. Her

562
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: video was on G A C And seems she for

563
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: It's a Girl Thing, and um, I thought she was

564
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: so talented and it was my first art with her,

565
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: so I was super stoked. And do you know Jesse

566
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: at all? She is a spitfire. I mean, comes in

567
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: the room black, a bold dozer in the best way possible.

568
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like letting her take the room.

569
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: And um, she was like, I had this idea. Um,

570
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: but if we don't write it, well, I'm gonna go

571
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: ride it somewhere else. I just want you guys to

572
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: know that straight up. And we were like okay. And

573
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: I think her doing that and timid and tim dated

574
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: us a bit, but it also kind of put this

575
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: pressure in the room. Um, and like this challenge in

576
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: the room of writing a really good song. And she

577
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: was like, Peter Pan that the boy who doesn't grow up. Um,

578
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: that's that's my idea. And we loved it and and

579
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: wrote it really quick, I think, and it was one

580
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: of those songs that we just wanted to keep singing

581
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: over and over in the room, like no one was

582
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: ready to leave yet. Um, which was cool. I have

583
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: trouble with your next song, and not for a reason

584
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: you would expect, but um, and whenever you hear this,

585
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: because people listen to these months later. But as we're

586
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: doing this, Bobby cast your singles. Yeah boy, I don't

587
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: know how to say it, was saying yeah boy. I

588
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like yeah boy, yeah boy, yeah boy.

589
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: So on the radio, I don't say the name of it.

590
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm just like why because it's like there's yeah boy,

591
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: just say it. Just feel I could do that. Just

592
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: start calling it. Did you call Peter Pan, Peter Pants,

593
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: Peter pants? Yeah, you just say it, Just call it

594
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: cignor no, because some people will be like, what are

595
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you doing? People get mad at everything I do. Anyway,

596
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: All right, so on the right now, this this is

597
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: your song on the radio. So this one here, give

598
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: me every story. Um. You know, it's the last song

599
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: that we're gonna released from this album, and um, I

600
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: think the whole heartbeat of the album I put out

601
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: was very young. A lot of it was very flirty. Um,

602
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: you were also young and flirty, though, I mean it

603
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: was absolutely absolutely and I think, I mean, even what

604
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: you've heard this next record is not that at all,

605
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: and so I think that it was kind of us

606
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: being like, let's circle back and end it how we

607
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: started it before we kind of move on to something else. Um.

608
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: Which has been really fun because it's it's fun to

609
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: see the fans that initially reacted with love me be like, oh,

610
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: this is my this is my favorite song on the record. Yeah,

611
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: we've been waiting for this, you know. That's been fun

612
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: to see. My favorite song on the record is one

613
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: that did not come out of the single, just because

614
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I'm a weird person that

615
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: doesn't always fit, but I love the square pat you did.

616
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: You can see that was the last time we wrote

617
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: every Everybody. Everybody says the world go round, Like that's

618
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: like it sounds like a kid. Yeah, I mean this

619
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: whole record though, Kelsey, you're talking about you, you've grown up,

620
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean a lot in the last three years, Like

621
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: it's been kind of while to watch the ascent and again,

622
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: this your next record, is gonna make you even older

623
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: to people because it's far more mature. And this you

624
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: needed this first record. Oh gosh, I'm proud of it.

625
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: You should be proud of it. And I know you

626
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: don't feel cool because it's poppy. But I didn't change

627
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: the game. It completely changed the game. You would not

628
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: be here without this sound. The radio would not sound

629
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: like it does without this sound. And I wouldn't heat

630
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: this false praise on you, but I would just talk

631
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: about it. Um. So yeah, like it's good. If you

632
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: put out a second record like this, I'll be like,

633
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: all right, Kelsey. I mean I think everyone wouldn't say that. Well,

634
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: So you ever hard to carry Underwood? Um? Not often

635
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: like we we've texted here and there, um, but not

636
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: often because she puts out songs that she she walks

637
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: that line a pop song and and and also Carrie

638
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: just doesn't give a crap. She does. I know Miranda

639
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: gives credit for not giving a crap, but Carrie doesn't

640
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: give carry does HEAs her lane? Like you said earlier?

641
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: And this isn't even to go back about that comment.

642
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: But you know, getting to know Carry a bit, it's

643
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: like focus forward. This is what I do I'm just

644
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: going to do it. That's the best thing. And it's

645
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: hard to do. It's so hard to do with a

646
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: million voices. It's really hard to do, and especially being

647
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: like a young girl, it's hard to just like look

648
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: ahead like, um No, I don't know her well, UM,

649
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: but I remember I met her. I went to her

650
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: Khalia fashion show in New York actually, um, maybe a

651
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: year and a half ago, and Um I went backstage

652
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: and gave her a hug and she was like, Hey,

653
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: here's my number if you ever need anything. And she's

654
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: texting me a couple of times, like when my grandparents

655
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: passed away, she texted me and UM a couple of times.

656
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: She's she's really cool. But we've never like hung out.

657
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: We're not bros. So early seventeen right now, in the

658
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: life cycle of this record, what's been the coolest give

659
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: me a moment? Let's say, give me what's the first

660
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: thing that comes to my want to go give me

661
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: a moment of the album. I don't care just the

662
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: last since the album, because you've got to do a

663
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: lot of things. Yeah, there's been a lot. Give me

664
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: the first one that comes to line, the most rewarding

665
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: thing I've gotten to do is headlining tour, and I

666
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 1: didn't When my management came to me like a year

667
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: and a half ago and there like, we want you

668
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: to headline the end of two thousand and sixteen. I

669
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: was like, you guys are crazy, You're crazy, Like it's

670
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: not going to happen. Um. And I didn't think I

671
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: was ready to put together like a seventy minute show.

672
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think I could do that. Um. It was

673
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: the most rewarding thing I've ever done, because you get

674
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: so used to having your like forty minute slot with

675
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: two pillar songs that people know, and then the rest

676
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: you're kind of like just trying to get people to

677
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: just even pay attention to you. Um. And with this tour,

678
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: we had venues that were like I think it was

679
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: like twelve dred cap rooms sold out that they knew

680
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: songs that I hadn't even put out yet every word

681
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: to them and to me, it just made me feel

682
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: like the whole record meant something and had a life

683
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: that was bigger than just the songs that I got

684
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: to put out as singles, which was it was really cool.

685
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: You know what else? As I sit here and think,

686
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: because I watched from a thousand feet up sometimes what

687
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: you're doing and your socials. And I'm a fan of

688
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: artists period in regardless how big they are. Like I

689
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: like like like people trying things, and I like people

690
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: doing things when people they stopped doing them just because

691
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: they feel it. And you talk about pop music in

692
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: a second, and I love the fact that you're just like,

693
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I love pop music because I like listen, I I

694
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: love hip hop, come, I love you know there are

695
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: these things and I'm just it's just who I am.

696
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: And the fact that you hop on Instagram. And I

697
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: was watching Instagram if you doing the chain Smoker's parents

698
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: other night, and I was like the fact that she's

699
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: still doing this just because she likes to do it.

700
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: That's much cooler than anything else. Because for your whole career,

701
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: whatever it is, people are always going to tell you

702
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: you're not this is not the cool thing to do. Forever.

703
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: You're forever gonna be told you should be doing something else.

704
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: And the person surround yourself with the best people and

705
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: then listen to the the best person, which is you.

706
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: And I like to do that because I know that

707
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: you get that you're not cool. Sometimes sometimes it's haters too,

708
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: because you're blown up? Do you know? Do you do?

709
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: You know? How fast you're you're blown up? And how

710
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: abnormal it is. What's what's really interesting is I I know,

711
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: but I don't really know. Does that make sense? I

712
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: know because people are telling me, and I know because

713
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: it's been two years and I feel like it's been ten.

714
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: But the first big proper break I've gotten was this Christmas.

715
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: I had like a week off for Christmas and two

716
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: weeks in Australia and I got home. I had thirty

717
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: six hours at home, did a did a cover shoot

718
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: for Billboard. I don't think that's I'm not supposed to

719
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: say that, but that happened. And then I literally got

720
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: on a country cruise, which you're on a cruise with

721
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: fans for five days to perform. And then I got

722
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: home and so I was like jet lagged and like

723
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: really kind of like WHOA where it? Like I need

724
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: to be home for a second. I feel like I

725
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: need to get centered for a second. And I went

726
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: through with management every day of this year what I

727
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: had going on, and I got really intimidated by my

728
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: life because I just got to be a human for

729
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: like a month and I didn't really think about music

730
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: too much, um, because I needed to like have some

731
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: experience to live and write about and like just a

732
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: lot of stuff hap and I got engauge and stuff

733
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: like that. So I just want to kind of go

734
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: away for a minute. And I literally sat with management.

735
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't I don't think I can

736
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: do this, Like I'm really intimidated by this, and it

737
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: makes me feel really insecure and like I I don't

738
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: know how this happened, you know, and like the start

739
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: of my year really is the Grammys. I'm like, how

740
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: do I ease into the Grammys? I don't know how

741
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: to do this? And so that's been like, ah, I

742
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: think the first time that I've really felt like whoa,

743
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: this did happen fast, because now you're feeling the things

744
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: that you probably should have been feeling a year ago,

745
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: like that that intimidation. You know, do you worry that

746
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna let people down? Um? No, because no one

747
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: thinks I'm cool, So I don't really walk good different

748
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: that people that that that assigned coolness. They don't matter, yea.

749
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: And you know this because you got it, like you

750
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: understand it. And I think you've had some great people

751
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: that have taught you this is that do you know

752
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: matters that people that buy the music? Yeah, on to

753
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: the shows. That's who matters. That's who really tells you

754
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: if you're cool or not. And I had the same thing,

755
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: Like people can tell me I sing, write blogs about

756
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: how terrible I am, but when I go to a

757
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: stand up show or I go do writing idiot show

758
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: where I go, those are the only people that matter.

759
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: And you know this and and it's a it's a

760
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: rare thing, and that's who matters. That's why I think

761
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: that tour was so rewarding for me because I was like,

762
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I am cool right now. It weren't a bubble that

763
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: we sometimes don't see out of because we're in Nashville.

764
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: Everybody it's a it's a small town speaking and everybody's

765
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: in it telling you how cool that someone else is. Yes,

766
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: but in reality, and you do a great job at

767
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: this to the coolest person is the person that comes

768
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: out and show support because we wouldn't be able to

769
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: do what we do. Yeah, none of it without people

770
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: spend They go to work and have jobs and like

771
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: spend their money on you as in a SCAE eight.

772
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: That's cool. It is cool. Yeah, it is cool. And

773
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: uh and and don't lose sight of that because you

774
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: will get pulled in eight directions to be told a

775
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: hundred things. And I'm telling you, trust me, I get

776
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: bashed constantly. But FM, you know, yeah, because you know,

777
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: it's just it's all about for me, it's all about

778
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: the listener. Like if they start to if I start

779
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: to be a douchebag, or I get high horsey or

780
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: it's like wow, don't, then I'm like, I gotta pull

781
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I gotta pull it back to them because it's like,

782
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, dance with the girl that brought you. And

783
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: so that's you talk about getting engaged and that. How

784
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: about that? What happens? Huh, let's talk about that. I mean,

785
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: you're young, Yeah I am. I am, you're young. When

786
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: are we talking about getting ready? Like ten years of

787
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: those long we haven't talked about it. I like, um,

788
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I never have thought about like a wedding or getting

789
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: married before. It's never been on my haven built the

790
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: picture's board of not my thing. I have dreamt about

791
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: like what my word will look like, not what my

792
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: wedding will look like. And he's the best. I love

793
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: so much and I'm stoked to marry him, but like,

794
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: that's not the things that we're thinking about right now.

795
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: We have people in our lives um that we shared,

796
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: that we're close to, and I the first thing I did,

797
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's like Kelsey get engaged. Is

798
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: she pregnant? Who? It doesn't matter here, Oh god, it

799
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But no, I know you're not. And if

800
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: if I thought you were or she said you know

801
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: he or he said yes, I wouldn't have asked that question.

802
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: But I was like, is she pregnant? Because because I

803
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: wanted to be happy for you, but you're not pregnant.

804
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, no, no, that's right now. You're not pregnant.

805
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: You didn't get engaged because you were pregnant. Not that

806
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that, but that's what I thought.

807
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: When I saw I was like, huh, Kelsys, it's been

808
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: pretty quick, Like when you met him in March, it's

809
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: been like ten and a half. And so you go

810
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: over and you meet him doing the Awards show because

811
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: he lives in Nashville. He's lived in Nashville for like

812
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: a year and a half, um where I guess like

813
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: two years now, but yeah, he actually had come over

814
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: and interviewed, um, all the artists that were going over

815
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: for that the cmafest before. So I didn't remember him

816
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: because I was in a relationship and whatever, and so

817
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: he interviewed me, and I gets He texted his friend

818
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: that day and said, I met a lot today. I

819
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: don't even remember him. Okay, do you have a screenshot?

820
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: His friend is the one who told me. But do

821
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: you have the screenshot? I don't have the screenshot. I

822
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: didn't know how dudes are Mike? Are you? I mean

823
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: he didn't work out. It doesn't work out. Well, yeah,

824
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: but I don't remember that before anybody else. He he

825
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: was like me, like we were like, hat, it's been fun, see,

826
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: gonna go work now, you know, like just not relationship

827
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: people wolf. Um, but yeah, no, we hosted the show

828
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: together and I'll start you and um, i've been together

829
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: since and you came back, came back and then you

830
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: started dating. Yeah yeah, I I didn't know that he

831
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: lived in Nashville. Um, when we hosted the show together,

832
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: and was it the fall froom like that? Like that

833
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: you really did? Yeah? Good looking dude, Ah he is.

834
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: He's so hot, but he's just like a proper good

835
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: human like he he's a good Yeah, you have to

836
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: hang out with him, you really, well, he's the best.

837
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm gushing and stop talking about no no away. It's

838
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: it's a rare thing, it really to find someone worthy.

839
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: My parents like are super super divorced. And I think

840
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: that's probably why I was like kind of like, oh,

841
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't two to your relationships before, and you could

842
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: not have paid me to even say the word marriage.

843
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Like I just would never think about that because as

844
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm a kid and I love what I do and

845
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: I'm busy and like that's kind of what my life is.

846
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: And when I thought it was all about and um, yeah,

847
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: when I met him, I was like, whoa, You're going

848
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: to change my life? Did you know he was going

849
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: to propose? Uh? We had talked about wanting to get married,

850
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: that that we knew that we wanted to be with

851
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: each other forever. And he's thirty one, woll he's older

852
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: than I thought. He's older than me. Um, and I

853
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: know he was older than you. Yeah, look at him. Listen.

854
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm eight years older than my girlfriends. So

855
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not wanting there's nothing wrong. I feel

856
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: like I'm twenty three, and I have moments of acting

857
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: like I'm eighteen. Now that's crazy to me. I know

858
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: I have moments of acting like I'm eighteen still, but

859
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I also have moments like I feel like my my

860
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: real life is like I need I need to be

861
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: about thirty five all the time, like I needed to

862
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: acting I'm like thirty five all the time. You've had

863
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: to grow up a lot quickly. But I'm telling you

864
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: grew up a like quickly though you had a younger age.

865
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: To me, listen, it wasn't like you had this uh

866
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: brady bunch of type family because and you know you've

867
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: talked about that a bit with your mom and dad

868
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: splitting up. And your mom lives here. My mom was

869
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: in Franklin. Yeah, she lives in Franklin, not Nashville, but

870
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: like minutes yeah, not far at all. My dad's a

871
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: Knoxville so where I'm from. And so that's where you

872
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: go when you put on the pajamas. No, that's mom's. Yeah,

873
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: that's her favorite thing. It's for all you guys to

874
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: put on the footstee pajamas. Yeah, why do you? She

875
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: makes her so happy? And I think she thinks that

876
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: everyone hates it, so she makes a big deal out

877
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: of it, and so we all just kind of act

878
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: like we hate it, but then we're like posting pictures

879
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: because we think it's so fun. So you start working

880
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: on this next record. How long ago. I've been through

881
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: a lot of phases with this album. I've I mean,

882
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: I probably wrote the first time we had written for

883
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: it is a song called Graveyard, which I think I

884
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: sent you, and um, I don't even know the First

885
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: Time was out yet when we had that song writing.

886
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we've we've been for it. I've probably written

887
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: like maybe maybe two songs and we've cut some, scrapped them.

888
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: We've used a couple of different producers didn't work out, UM,

889
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: So we've really kind of gotten to experiment a bit

890
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: more with this one. Um. But you know what the

891
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: coolest part was, I went back to like the producers

892
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: that did the first Time, and they're my friends, and

893
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it just worked because you can

894
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: be honest with them. I can be honest with them

895
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: and like they they created the sound that the First

896
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: Time is and I think that that's really valuable, you know,

897
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: And it was really cool to be able to try

898
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: different producers and then learn that like they bring something

899
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: really special. UM And I don't think I appreciated that

900
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: as much as I probably should have, And now I do,

901
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: because I know you get the call that you've been

902
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: nominated for Best New Artists, UM, just be real. Did

903
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: you think that you would be one of the five nominees? Honestly,

904
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: it was really important to me. It was really important

905
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: to me. Did you feel like it less than to

906
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: your chances that Maren existed and she came on strong?

907
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Because I did. I was like, Marin is really cool, Yeah,

908
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: way cooler than they are commercial absolutely people never even

909
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: heard of. And I love music and I'm like, who

910
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: is this? The thing? The thing about me and Maren

911
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: and we're friends, We're not super close. I would love

912
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: to be close with her. UM. But the thing about

913
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: Maren is, if there's any other I don't want to

914
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: say this, I'm glad it's me and her. Like I'm

915
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: glad I'm in competition with her because she's so talented

916
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: and her record is probably my most played record of

917
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: the year. UM And I think that hopefully once we

918
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: get out of all the new categories, it'll be just

919
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: like Carrie and Miranda where they live in completely different lanes.

920
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: But I think that people put us up against each

921
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: other right now because we're the new girls, and we're female,

922
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: and we're in the new artist county, you know what

923
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean. So right now, I think we're up against

924
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: each other a lot, which again I'm stoked at her

925
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: because she's really good, and that means that I'm in

926
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: the same category as someone who's really good, which I'm

927
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: stoked about. Um. And I think that eventually, as we

928
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: keep putting out music, hopefully we keep just growing into

929
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: those positions. Is like a Carrie and Miranda, we're just

930
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: in different lanes. You know. It's such a weird dynamic

931
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: because you have all these number one songs. Was that rude?

932
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to be rude, There's no there's god,

933
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to be I'm a huge fan of hers.

934
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: I didn't want to sound it's not a very competent.

935
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: I know. I tell you to and I'll call you

936
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: on and be like, hey, well and everything's about honestly

937
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: here um. And I love Marin's record too. Yes, holy crap. Once,

938
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: I can't with that song. It's for the Grammys. A

939
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: first of all, I think got the one. You're gonna

940
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: win the award, You're gonna balance it, You're gonna kill

941
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: each other. I think yeah, because I just did the

942
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: logic of it, because here is how we break it down,

943
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: and I think you guys cancel each other out enough

944
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: to where it doesn't Um, who's a rock group and

945
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: it could have been the Chain Smokers, but it's they're

946
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: a pop group. And again, the Grammys aren't about commercial

947
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: actually go away from that and people vote. I'm a voter.

948
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Grammy voter, and I'm probably the only one

949
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: who voted for like all the pop stuff, you know,

950
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: because I just know. So I think you guys listen

951
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: for the format. I would love if either one of

952
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: you wanted. Yeah, it's a big deal that we're both

953
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: nominated in. It crazy that you both are. I thought

954
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: it was gonna be one of the two of you. Yeah.

955
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder which one it's going through

956
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: and knew it will be one of you it. Um, Yeah,

957
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: it's a big deal there. There's never been two country

958
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: artists in that category, let alone too chicks. It's a

959
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: big deal. Um, which in itself feels like a victory

960
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: you know. Um, yeah, I'm not. I'm not prepared to

961
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: win that. I know that, and I'm cool with that. Yeah.

962
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: So they they do the things, they don't call your name.

963
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: How do you feel? I mean it happened before that. Yeah,

964
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: what do you hurt by that? Um? I mean as

965
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: much as much as you should hurt. When I lose

966
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: that it crushes me and decide, I'll be honest, I

967
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: hate it the rewards thing, and I don't win. I'm like,

968
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm a complete loss and a failure, and then it

969
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: motivates me to do more. But I was be honest,

970
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: it sucks to lose. Yeah, I mean I try to

971
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: be really practical going into these kind of things because

972
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: A words are cool, Like I have a couple there

973
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: on the shelf. It's really fun to show my friends. Um,

974
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. I mean, I'm down with my three

975
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: number ones. It makes me really happy. That makes me

976
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: really happy. Um, and I I don't know I was bombed,

977
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: but I was also like it makes me it's good,

978
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: it's fine. I would have been bombed. I'd have been

979
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: I would have been like, could you reallys real? Like

980
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: to have number one songs? Like just the human part

981
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: of might have been like what what do you guys do?

982
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Wing like how I'm performing? I've got three number ones?

983
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: Why why am I not? If? I think, if anything,

984
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: it probably just fed into that like I'm not cool.

985
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: People don't think it absolutely. I think that's probably the

986
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: more of the feeling rather than like oh they don't

987
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: like me, or like oh they don't think I'm good.

988
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: It's like I'm just not cool, you know. That's kind

989
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: of I think the insecurity, you know what, you know

990
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: what the coolest thing is, though, period is not caring

991
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: and I'll get there. I'll get there. I'm not there yet,

992
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: though I'm okay to say that. I don't think anyone

993
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: ever fully gets there. Especially artists were so emotional. We're

994
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: just it's just weird. When you create, you're so vulnerable

995
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: because we create and then every and and I'm not

996
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: comparing what I do to you, but we create in

997
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: different lanes. Yeah, Like I wrote that stupid book and

998
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I was like Jesus man, like I'm putting it all

999
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: out there and people are gonna tell me I suck

1000
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,879
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1001
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,520
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1002
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,560
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1003
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,320
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00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:07,560
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Speaker 1: All right, So you have a fiance, you got a

1029
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: new record coming out? Yeah, I want to know about

1030
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: this fiance for a second. Okay, like, what's his deal?

1031
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: Which part? What do you want to know? Let's talk

1032
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: about his music, because he's an artist. I've never I've

1033
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: never heard him saying do you want to hear him

1034
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: saying I'm not against it? I mean I wouldn't be

1035
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: like let me out of here, yeah I can. I

1036
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: mean yes, it'd be weird for me. It'd be tough

1037
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: for me to be with another artist if I didn't

1038
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: respect what they did. I've always said I would never

1039
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: be with another artist because it's weird. I've dated a

1040
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: songwriter before. It's competitive, it's like awkward, and it's just

1041
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: it's just not it's just so. I opened for him

1042
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: in Australia too, which was kind of cool to like

1043
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: flip that, and then he opened for you on your

1044
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: headlining tour. UM, Who does it get competitive? I wonder?

1045
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean if he goes out and doesn't have six

1046
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: because most artists don't have success initially. Moth artists aren't Kelsey.

1047
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean is that I'm just not worried about it.

1048
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: I think fels like he needs to be successful for you.

1049
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: I think that he he will be successful for me,

1050
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: whatever that means. But I'm just where he's so talented

1051
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: and he's everyone loves him that meets him, and so

1052
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: I think that it'll work out how it's supposed to

1053
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: work out for him at he's a really good entertainer.

1054
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: I think that's his strongest suit, Like he writes and

1055
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: all of that. He's a great singer, but he's a

1056
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: really really great entertainer, Like, help me put part of

1057
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: my last show together? What's his deal? Then? Musically? Is

1058
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: it right? Right now? Is the on a label? He's

1059
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: on Warner Australia, UM, and then he's not on a

1060
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: Nashville label yet yet? Yeah, should make black Rivers on them?

1061
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Just part past? Yeah, that's interesting. You have to are

1062
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean listen if it were it's a it's a

1063
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: difficult juggling act to be with someone else creative. I'm

1064
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: going to do the same thing. Yeah, you just get

1065
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: just too creative people. And but it's also like I

1066
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: think as long as you can separate it, Like there

1067
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: are times where I'm like I need you to tell

1068
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: me what to do in this situation, or like I

1069
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: need your opinion on this, like and put your business

1070
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: at on his name. By the way, that we have

1071
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: never said a name. His name everybody can google. Um. Yeah.

1072
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: But we also will be like, let's just not talk

1073
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: about anything to do with what we do tonight, Like

1074
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about our family or friends or something else,

1075
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: like a stupid YouTube video. It doesn't matter anything. Um.

1076
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: And it's cool to able to like do either. You

1077
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: know what do you guys have fun doing together? What's

1078
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 1: what's like yours? We travel? We love to travel. Yeah, yeah,

1079
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: we went to um, Hawaii, and then we went to

1080
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: Paris and Florence and then like even stuff like Black

1081
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: Verry far right down the road, just a little getaways,

1082
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: really really good. Fair to say you're making money now finally, Um,

1083
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: this year I started to make a little money people

1084
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: think when you have a song on the radio, immediately

1085
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: become some crazy millionaire. It's opposite. I mean most artists,

1086
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: I don't lose money. It's so hard for a long time.

1087
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: The first year, and I remember, this is so caned.

1088
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting so much trouble for this radio tour was

1089
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: the hardest time in my life because I was working

1090
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: so hard, um, and for myself, like I was doing

1091
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: it for me, you know, but I was exhausted. And

1092
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: you don't get paid. Everyone around you does. And I

1093
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: happened to be dating my guitar player at the time,

1094
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: so he is getting paid and I wasn't. And I

1095
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: remember there was one time where I couldn't pay my

1096
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: rent when I got home, um, and it was actually

1097
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: it was during my opera debut and all my family

1098
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: and friends were there and I was like, dude, I

1099
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: asked my parents to pay my rent, like what do

1100
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: I do? And ended up something cool happened. But what happened,

1101
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'd want me to say someone

1102
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: someone showed up and did it for me, someone that

1103
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: you'll probably take that and help someone else in the

1104
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: same way. Yeah, he's like the coolest person. Yeah, it

1105
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: was not you that fact. Uh yeah, but um radio,

1106
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, that whole time is so hard because

1107
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: you have to support the people that are there to

1108
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: support you, but essentially you're working for yourself, you know,

1109
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: and it's it's really it's really tough, really tough. Mom,

1110
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: proud of you, so proud. She's my date to the Grammys.

1111
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: We're going shopping next week. Oh man, that's a tough call.

1112
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: Is that a tough call? I know you and your

1113
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: mamare close, and your mom moved out here when you're fifteen.

1114
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: We made a deal. When I was like, if you

1115
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: made a deal, We made a deal. We made a deal.

1116
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: I mean you just got engaged. No, I know he's

1117
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna be out there with me just for my sanity purposes,

1118
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: but um yeah, no, I made a deal with my

1119
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: mom was like fourteen because we used to watch the

1120
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: Grammys together and I was like, when I get to

1121
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: go to the Grammies, you're gonna come with me. You're

1122
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna be my date. And so then it actually happened.

1123
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: So she's my date. That's cool. Yeah, I'm stoked, and

1124
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: she's proud. Does she have pictures up of you? Like

1125
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: all through the years, that she makes me these scrap books,

1126
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: like Shutterfly scrap books. She made me one for Christmas.

1127
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: And this is so embarrassing. My trainer was over this

1128
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: morning and the books propped up on my shelf and

1129
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, look at me with brown here, and

1130
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: she was like, that's you, jeez, baby fat, And I

1131
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: was like, you're hardcore though, like she was in the military.

1132
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: She is a boss lady. For a while she's um, yeah,

1133
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: she's hardcore. She's hardcore. Yeah, um yeah. So my mom

1134
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: keeps all the pictures. That's fun. It's fun to have

1135
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: someone that's been there and your mom moved, moved for you,

1136
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: I know. I know for you as a kid. And

1137
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: I think as you get older too, you'll and when

1138
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: you have kids, you'll probably be liked. I appreciate that,

1139
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: Like I get it. It's cool too, because she had

1140
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: just started dating her now husband in Knoxville, um, like

1141
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: six months before we moved, and so they kept dating.

1142
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: They don't like they just met started dating. We moved,

1143
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: and then they dated long distance for like seven years.

1144
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: I would say they dated mid distance. Mid distance yeah, yes,

1145
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: sorry distance really for seven years. And now he lives

1146
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: out here in the marry and stuff. So what was

1147
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: it like playing back in Knoxville Theater. It was cool.

1148
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I knew that there were a

1149
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: lot of people in the audience that, like my choir

1150
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: director was there, which like I mean, I could have

1151
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: just died that she was there. Um, my parents were there. Um,

1152
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends were there. But then there

1153
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: were also like my ex boyfriend was there. Um my

1154
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: like the Peter like high high school. Um uh, there

1155
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: were a couple of people that like, and it happens

1156
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: because you hear the story at the time, but like that, um,

1157
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: aren't really your friends. And then all of a sudden,

1158
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, a song on the radio and they're like

1159
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: a Kelsie, here's a picture of us, and you're like

1160
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: seven people away from each other, you know what I mean. Um,

1161
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: there were like a lot of those people there too.

1162
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: So I remember before I went out on stage, I

1163
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: was like, do it for do it for your friends,

1164
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: and do it for your family, but like, do it

1165
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: for the people that are here that like I didn't

1166
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: think you could do it, you know. And I went

1167
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: out and I swear I never like flipped my hair

1168
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: that hard in my life. Like I just went out

1169
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: there and turned into some one else. But and I

1170
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: was so proud of myself because I thought I was

1171
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna be so emotional and I just like I did

1172
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: the best show I've probably ever done. And then for

1173
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: the encore, I walked out, um into the audience. We

1174
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: always like, pick a spot, never know who's gonna be

1175
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: around it, just pick a spot. I walk out with

1176
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: my guitar to play the first time, and I'll walk

1177
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: out and it's my second show of the whole tour.

1178
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: It's my hometown in the theater that my dad used

1179
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: to live above, and I would sneak down into like

1180
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: it's I saw a little big down there, so I

1181
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, it's just like a super special

1182
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: place to me. And I look up and my dad's

1183
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: right in front of me, and to my best friends

1184
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: are like to my right. And then Forest and Jason

1185
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: Mass and my producers surprised me and drove in and

1186
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: they were like on my on my left, and I

1187
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: just looked up at them and I started a bawling.

1188
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just like I couldn't even get my my

1189
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: words together. Um, and while it's embarrassing, like why while

1190
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: it's happening. It's a cool moment to look back on.

1191
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: You know, are you writing with tonight? I'm writing with

1192
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy Robbins and a chick name Mozilla. She wrote, I

1193
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: came in. Let go backing Ball. Oh yeah, yeah. We

1194
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: wrote two days ago and we got two songs and

1195
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: three hours we were like, let's do this again. It's funny.

1196
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: You know, my you sing wrecking Ball. I've become friends

1197
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: with Jesse Alexander. She and she she wrote the climb,

1198
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: but she's not real, not real. I saw her again

1199
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: because I went, um, and I don't I don't get

1200
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: to go to a lot of things. But I went

1201
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: and went to watch Derek's play. I was there. I

1202
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: saw a picture of you. I never I never saw you,

1203
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: but I saw a picture of you at the end.

1204
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: But so I want to watch Dreks And I saw

1205
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: her back there and one on like the A C.

1206
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: M board together and we've got to kind of know

1207
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: each other. And you sing wrecking But she wrote Miley

1208
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: Cyrus as a climb, which when she sings I heard

1209
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: her husband both songwriters. Um. But when she sings that,

1210
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: it's so good. But she wrote, you know, Lebryce, I

1211
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: drive your truck, which I think most country people would

1212
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: go to that first. But I'm always like you saying

1213
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: the climb from Miley Biggest hand on Montana fan, Oh gosh,

1214
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: did you ever go to hand Montana shows? Show? Yes

1215
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: and Jonas Brothers opened really oh yeah, Knox built yep,

1216
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: they were. That was when I was in pop radio

1217
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: like the Jonas Brothers people would, I mean, that's how

1218
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: I was. I was like a camp out Jonas Brothers

1219
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: fan Nick played with me the keep everybody country, don't.

1220
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: You can't say anyone country? And this next question growing up,

1221
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: eliminate all country, just your favorite artists. Give me three

1222
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: artists that you loved, not country, not country. My first

1223
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: concert was Brittany. Um I this makes me sound probably weird.

1224
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: I loved like Frank Sinatra. My dad listened him all

1225
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: the time in the well. That's why because it made

1226
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: me feel like you so Frank Sinatra, that kind of

1227
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: oldies stuff. Um And and I mean, like Hannah, Montana

1228
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: was a big one for me because I wanted to musician.

1229
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: I was going to school and like I just kind

1230
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: of you feel like you're living well. I'm excited for

1231
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: I hope. Yeah. Always Number one, you know, and I

1232
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: know a bit you're kind of like ready for that.

1233
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean I get it, like you're like, I'm ready

1234
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: for the new stuff. Well, but I'm excited to like

1235
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: finish it out on this song, so hopefully it works

1236
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: me too, And I'm ready for the new stuff because

1237
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: I just think everyone's going to see a different picture.

1238
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: And congratulations on the Grammy nominations. Thank you? Are you

1239
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: going out for that? I don't thinks. I don't think so.

1240
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I don't like to

1241
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: do stuff. I just don't unless I have to do

1242
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 1: something at it, Like I'll go to the Like I'm

1243
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: on the board of the a C m S And

1244
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: I probably would go to the a C unless I

1245
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: was doing part of the TV. So yeah, I just don't.

1246
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: I just feel pressure that people have to talk to

1247
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: me in places. You're doing the IRT Festival, Well yeah,

1248
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: but that's my company. I'm hosting it and playing. But

1249
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: that's my company this year. You are playing, which is

1250
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: which is awesome, because it's awesome. I've wanted to it's awesome.

1251
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: It's because that's one It's not like an awards show

1252
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: where it's slow. It's like bam bam bam in the

1253
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: stage flips and I'm so excited we're playing it were

1254
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: but we're bringing out somebody to play with us that

1255
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: people are gonna flip out it out, which is gonna

1256
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: be crazy. Um the first yeah that we we spent

1257
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: a lot of time with cards together, like we did

1258
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: like not even busses, and you know, we're both now

1259
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: to the point where we take busses to we're you know,

1260
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: and we're definitely different and you're a real life thing

1261
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: and I'm an entertainer. We entertained, but we get take

1262
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: busses now. Back in the day, we were taking a

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Speaker 1: small van or an suv and driving like six hours.

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01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: And now we're like, like Kelsey, get the car on

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01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: playing something while we drive for three hours to sit

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: the back and just play it. Does it feels like

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01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: forever ago? I mean, I feel like this freaking radio

1268
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: show is twenty years old, and it's are you gonna

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: half years old? I feel like, yeah, it's not four

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01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: years yet, and then I like your record, you probably

1271
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 1: feel like it's again, it's not ten years. But it's cool.

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01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: It's been weird to watch you go from a baby

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01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: to where you are now and the ups and downs

1274
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: and our ups and downs because we were really close

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01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: and then not close and then really close. Like but

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: but through all of that, like I've always been like

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01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: a call away regardless and the probably a time were less.

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01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: We're on the same label too, like Fullest Close. We're

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: also on the same record label, and I'm doing comedy

1280
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: projects with the label, like not even music and our

1281
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: lives and our career are they are. And that's why

1282
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: I was like, let me see if I can see

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01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: anything on the internet. I don't know about Kelsey, which

1284
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: is this is the weirdest Bobby Cast because it's like

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm on with somebody from my show almost that I

1286
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: just know everything about, Like I almost know every answer

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01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: to every question I'm gonna ask them. So it's difficult

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01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: for me. I will always for you. It's been it's

1289
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: been weird. It's been weird. But I just hope that

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01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: you keep doing you because at times it's hard not

1291
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: to do you. And I say that just in general,

1292
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that you are. And I'm excited about

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01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: the second record because I've heard some stuff and it's

1294
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: just different. It's different record. I don't give opinions on

1295
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: that stuff anymore. I do. I thought I do, but

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01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: yeah I don't do. You know. Yeah, it's a weird

1297
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: thing now because I have friends and even my girlfriend.

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01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't tell her what songs you know what, I say,

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. You can talk about it if

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01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: you want. But here's the thing that I tell her

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01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: because she's you know, you know, putting together record, and

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01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: she's finally like, screw it, I'm just putting together the

1303
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: mo o on kind of record. She's like, I've done

1304
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: what they wanted me to do, and I've done. I've

1305
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: made singles that they wanted me to make again that

1306
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: that was the song. But now she's like, you know

1307
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: who I am. I'm I'm a I'm a country blues player.

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01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 1: She's like, and this is what this is the record

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01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: I want to make. So she's making it and I

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: listen to songs, but I don't go that's for the radio.

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: My only talk with her is would I buy it?

1312
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, you know what, I wouldn't buy

1313
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: that song, but I see where it would fit on

1314
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: a record. But there's a weird relationship and it's in

1315
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: a way even with you, if you were like, Hey,

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: what do you think I would be. I couldn't be like, oh,

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: that's radio. I'd be like, yeah, i'd buy it, or

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01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy it. That's an interesting perspective because I

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01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: have to. I'm so you're you're biased, even if you

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01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: don't want to be your bias. And then I go

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01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: because she has songs, I'd be like I would download that,

1322
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: and then she has songs to be like, you know,

1323
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but I do see where it fits in

1324
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: this record that in her should recommend a couple of weeks.

1325
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: But um, yeah it's a thing. Oh yeah, she's she

1326
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: makes me a normal human because I'm not. She drags

1327
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: it out at me. Yeah, she's a good human. And

1328
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: Morgan play does the same thing for you. It just

1329
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: introduces a different side of you, even to yourself. Yeah,

1330
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: where you're like, wow, I didn't realize that i'd be

1331
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: that comfortable being like this. Yeah that's awesome. So not good,

1332
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: but it's good. Well, congratulations, thanks man, And you know,

1333
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: if you win the Grammy, that's awesome, And if you don't,

1334
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I'll wear a pretty dress and I'll sit

1335
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: near Beyonce and that's enough and when And here's the thing.

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: You have to again at times, take and look at

1337
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: it from far away. Let's say odds are you're a man,

1338
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: neither one are gonna win. You're not gonna win, because

1339
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: it's just looking at the math of it. In two

1340
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: or three years, you'll look back and go, that was

1341
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever. Even though you're kind of gonna

1342
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: be a little bit sad when you don't win, you're

1343
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna look back and go. So just go. And it's

1344
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: something that I've had to learn how to do and

1345
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: just almost take mental pictures to remember how cool it is.

1346
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Just started video everything on my phone, like every right,

1347
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: every like, do you want people hack and steal your stuff?

1348
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: All the time? I get hacked all the time all

1349
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: the time. There was a right, it sucks. It's so stressful.

1350
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: It is so stressful. I had to call Twitter and

1351
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: they don't have a number you look up in the

1352
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: on the internet. That had to be like, guys that

1353
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: need help because I'm getting hacked all the time all

1354
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: the time. Do they ever steal your music? I there's

1355
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: a live link on eBay right now of like half

1356
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: my next record. Really, and there's nothing you can do

1357
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: because it's so frustrating. It's so frustrating. I'm like, if

1358
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: you hack my phone, you're gonna get a lot of

1359
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: pictures of my dog, which is fun, and my contacts,

1360
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: which is probably what people want. You know, it's just

1361
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: my address book, yeah, which is super annoying. You are cool,

1362
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: You are cool with your address book. I'm not. That's

1363
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: not what I'm do, you know, Hayley Steinfeld, I not know.

1364
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: No you should because I like that song. Was no.

1365
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: I love that song and I met her maybe once. Um,

1366
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: but we're not. We're not buds and you need to

1367
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: be yet. That's a good song like that. That's a

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: that's a Haley. I love that ches in town writing

1369
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: right now. He is, and you know who he's writing

1370
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: with because Keith. But I was just okay. So I'm

1371
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: a huge Walker Hayes fan. I don't know if you

1372
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: know Walker. So he's opening for me on my comedy

1373
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: tour the Internet my favorite have you heard shut Up? Kenny?

1374
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: I've heard listen have you heard shut Up? Kenny? It

1375
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: makes me want to never write another song. Ah Walker

1376
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: song made me go, why why is anybody's even trying?

1377
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: Like like he's at the next level, and he works

1378
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: in a tiny shed and he works on old, crappy

1379
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: equipment of producing equipment that's so old that when people

1380
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: come in there, you go, dude, I can't this doesn't

1381
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: match like with my current computers. But he he's a freak. Yeah.

1382
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't even think we've met in person ever, but

1383
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: I just like randomly comment on and stuff and be like, hey,

1384
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: you're good. It's just differently the Halloween song he plays

1385
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: that with in Nikita Things, the girl part, Oh my gosh,

1386
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: it's too good. No, it's it's like Halloween. You look

1387
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: at you go, this is gonna be dumb Halloween. But

1388
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: Walker has as a song called Halloween, and it's like

1389
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't have to pretend anymore. I can put all

1390
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: my my mask and my cakes and stuff down with you.

1391
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's just like that's that's the thing

1392
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: that is songwriting and its fun and you're there. It's

1393
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: rare to hear and feel things anymore, like us too

1394
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: when we hear stuff all the time. But all that

1395
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: being said, thumbs up to you. This is just the

1396
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: beginning of it, and it's a roller coaster and you're

1397
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna have you down, but you can have some huge

1398
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: ups and it's really cool to build a man to

1399
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: be able to watch and hopefully one day I'll get

1400
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: to see a picture of your wedding. That would be cool.

1401
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, a wedding, Yeah, that would be cool.

1402
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: That's when you say, no, you're gonna be amvited. You

1403
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: are well. I don't know if a wedding will happen,

1404
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: but if it does, of course you're invited. Man, you

1405
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: heard it here, tell us tell Morgan us a hello,

1406
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope everything is fantastic than Kelsey Valerie?

1407
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: What episodes has been? You are episode? We've been trying

1408
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 1: to work this out for a while, but both of

1409
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: us have been gone about it worked out and I

1410
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: will say too, and I don't say this, and I've

1411
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: bring it up to people if they show up and

1412
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: it's different. But they're about five of you ever that

1413
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: just show up by yourself, and that's so cool. Who

1414
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: two of the five were? You and Maren Peopoth Like,

1415
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm just down, I don't have a made with me.

1416
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: Let's just talk and to me, that's that's a that's

1417
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: a cool human thing, like regardless of music or anything else.

1418
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just coming over. I'm not bringing my manager,

1419
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm not bring my people. Just sit down and talk.

1420
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: And so when you showed up, I was like, Kells

1421
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: are gonna show up, but there are. We also have

1422
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: mutual friends, so it would have been she dropped me off.

1423
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: Megan literally dropped me off like a mom. So yeah,

1424
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: it's good. I'm glad you can. Thanks for having me.

1425
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: All right, kels Baleria, this has been um, how do

1426
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: you feel it went good? So fun? I don't know

1427
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: why you freaked out about the marathing but what you

1428
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: said nothing even remote? My god, No, I don't know.

1429
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: I just get really nervous. People people get weird and like,

1430
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, and these chairs are comfortable, and you just

1431
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: start saying stuff, you know, and then I was rocking

1432
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: in my chair and I don't know what. All right,

1433
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. Thank you, Kelsey, and good luck with

1434
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: life the next time. I