Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory, part
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Speaker 1: Friedman alongside Jack Summers, coming to you with a live
Speaker 1: postgame edition of the show and Jack. The Diamondbacks lost
Speaker 1: eleven to one. It wasn't great the game. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about later because the biggest storyline from today by far
Speaker 1: was Dback's second baseman, kateel Marte. There's a lot here.
Speaker 1: Jack will dive into it, but the gist of it
Speaker 1: is that katel Marte did not show up at the
Speaker 1: ballpark due to personal reasons. Does not appear that the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks know what those reasons are, and it also looks
Speaker 1: like the Diamondbacks don't know where kutel Marte is right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this entire situation castle entire paul over the team,
Speaker 2: in the organization, and the fan base on a night
Speaker 2: that should have been a celebration of the return of
Speaker 2: two outstanding young players. Instead, everything is completely overshadowed by
Speaker 2: the drama and the clear gut punch that this situation
Speaker 2: has delivered to management and to the team, to his teammates,
Speaker 2: we don't know what's going on exactly. We have some
Speaker 2: ideas about communications, which we'll get into, but the bottom
Speaker 2: line is is that this is really going to be
Speaker 2: a tough thing I think for this team to overcome,
Speaker 2: both on and off the field.
Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and start with with some tweets that
Speaker 1: we have. This is from Steve Gilbert, who is out
Speaker 1: in Boston tonight. For those of you who just watch
Speaker 1: the postgame show, some of this you might have seen
Speaker 1: on the air, but Steve tweets after the game. Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: manager Tory Leavello said he first learned Katel Marte might
Speaker 1: not show up tonight in the morning, but preferred to
Speaker 1: keep the specifics private, and then Steve added the d
Speaker 1: Backs shortstop Geraldo Perdomos that he did not know what
Speaker 1: caused Marte not to show up and that he had
Speaker 1: not talked to him today. There's just a lot to
Speaker 1: unpack here, Jack. It appears that Katel has some kind
Speaker 1: of personal situation going on. Interesting that Tory said he
Speaker 1: had an idea from early this morning, from when he
Speaker 1: woke up this morning that kateel might not show up
Speaker 1: at the ballpark today. This wasn't like a sudden thing
Speaker 1: that came out of nowhere this afternoon, but there appears
Speaker 1: to be a pretty glaring lack of communication. Frankly, the
Speaker 1: fact that the Diamondbacks don't know where kudel Marte is
Speaker 1: at present, the fact that they do not know what
Speaker 1: this personal issue is, and the fact that they waited
Speaker 1: until just a few minutes before game time to post
Speaker 1: their lineup because they apparently thought that he was going
Speaker 1: to show up to the ballpark and that just never happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean Tori's exact words on the post game.
Speaker 2: You know, I was just I just was doing my
Speaker 2: best to reach out to him, and there's very little
Speaker 2: coming back, you know. So for whatever reason, Katel has
Speaker 2: chosen not to communicate. Now, his phone's working fine, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it. Around two thirty three o'clock
Speaker 2: he posted to his Instagram. It was a congratulatory message,
Speaker 2: obviously about Corbyn, Carroll and Pee a Lonzo winning Player
Speaker 2: of the Week. So you know, he was fine physically
Speaker 2: and able to function with his communication device, but he
Speaker 2: just chose not to use that device to communicate with
Speaker 2: his team, and look, I am not going to engage
Speaker 2: in speculation about what's going on with him psychologically, mentally, family, whatever.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, nobody has any idea. But he
Speaker 2: has a responsibility to communicate. And you know, this is
Speaker 2: a fairly egregious act to not communicate with your manager
Speaker 2: who's reaching out to you, and not communicating back to
Speaker 2: him and not showing up to the ballpark. Now, there
Speaker 2: may be some ultimately very extremely mitigating circumstances that may
Speaker 2: be reported, and I'm absolutely willing to entertain that possibility,
Speaker 2: but you know, it's just beyond reason that he would
Speaker 2: not communicate. I mean, it's not that hard to say. Look,
Speaker 2: I can't come today. I'll tell you all about it later,
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to be there. But to leave
Speaker 2: everybody hanging until game time, I mean, I can only
Speaker 2: imagine the confusion in the clubhouse as they're trying to
Speaker 2: put together a lineup and figure out who's playing and
Speaker 2: who's not. So very very tough situation for the Arizona
Speaker 2: Diamondback set clearly carried over onto the field tonight.
Speaker 1: This was from the Diamondbacks Twitter account at three point
Speaker 1: fifty eight pm Arizona time. Game time, of course four
Speaker 1: to ten pm, so this was twelve minutes before first pitch.
Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks tweet out this graphic saying that Jose Fernandez
Speaker 1: had been recalled from Triple A Reno and catel Marte
Speaker 1: had been placed on the injured list. Fernandez, according to
Speaker 1: two reports, was actually available. Was in Boston because d
Speaker 1: Backs were thinking they might have to put Nolan Arnado
Speaker 1: on the injured list, and so Fernandez was there. I
Speaker 1: guess it sort of worked out. He was able to
Speaker 1: step in started this game at third base. But it's
Speaker 1: just such a messy situation Jack, And obviously there's a
Speaker 1: history here with katel Marte. There's everything that happened over
Speaker 1: the offseason with the trade discussions. There's what happened coming
Speaker 1: out of the All Star break last summer where his
Speaker 1: house was broken into really tough situation, but still appeared
Speaker 1: that he just did not communicate and even though that
Speaker 1: was a tough thing to deal with, the he left
Speaker 1: the team in the dark in that situation, it did
Speaker 1: not seem that there was a good reason for him
Speaker 1: to not report to that weekend series. And of course
Speaker 1: there have been other moments in the past as well,
Speaker 1: so it's an ongoing narrative, and his relationship with Tory
Speaker 1: Lavello is one of the more fascinating things about this organization.
Speaker 1: It's been very clear that Toy cares deeply for Katel.
Speaker 1: You could see that in the post game show. Tory
Speaker 1: you went out of his way to talk about how
Speaker 1: much he cares about Katel and just wants what's best
Speaker 1: for him. But there's an undeniable element here of Ktel
Speaker 1: just falling short when it comes to showing up in
Speaker 1: one what is once again a really big moment for
Speaker 1: this Diamondbacks team.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're trying.
Speaker 1: To chase down the Phillies and the Padres right now,
Speaker 1: and they need to tell Marte to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Torri was obviously extremely emotional. I mean you could
Speaker 2: see the tears willing up in his eyes, and you
Speaker 2: know he he basically virtually broke down crying. You know,
Speaker 2: he held it, barely held it together, but you know,
Speaker 2: his voice broke. There were tears in his eyes clearly,
Speaker 2: and you know, he expressed a great deal of concern
Speaker 2: for Katel, you know, and just worried about him and
Speaker 2: all of that. And I believe that you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think that there's any reason that Tory wouldn't have
Speaker 2: a strong bond with the player. However, you know, this
Speaker 2: is a situation that they find themselves in and it's
Speaker 2: you know, you have to consider the possibility that this
Speaker 2: time around, this is going to take a while. You know,
Speaker 2: Nick Piccoro asked a question, you know, how difficult is
Speaker 2: it going to be for to tell to men fences
Speaker 2: with his teammates after this one, and you know, toris
Speaker 2: that I don't know. I haven't thought about that yet.
Speaker 2: I really can't address that, so you know, we'll have
Speaker 2: to see how it all plays out. But you know,
Speaker 2: I'll be surprised, pleasantly surprised if this is only like
Speaker 2: a couple of game absence and you know, there's a
Speaker 2: good explanation that satisfies everybody and he's able to come
Speaker 2: back unhindered and play soon. I mean, that would be
Speaker 2: the best case for to tell, for the team, for
Speaker 2: the fan base, and I hope that that's the outcome.
Speaker 1: The restricted list is just a weird, complicated aspect of
Speaker 1: baseball that, honestly, I've never fully understood what exactly the
Speaker 1: restricted list means. It kind of feel like it's this
Speaker 1: idea in baseball that no one really knows what it is.
Speaker 1: There's no minimum stay, there's no maximum stay. We see
Speaker 1: guys go on the restricted list for you know, ped cases.
Speaker 1: That's a more common thing if there's some you know,
Speaker 1: kind of investigation happening in the player, you know, situation
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, this isn't like a player
Speaker 1: going on the paternity list or something like. If you're
Speaker 1: on the restricted list, you're not paid, you don't improve
Speaker 1: service time, which I guess that doesn't really matter for
Speaker 1: a Catel at this point, seeing it is how he's
Speaker 1: already at ten years.
Speaker 2: At one point, Nick in his article mentioned that the
Speaker 2: team has the option to either pay or not pay him,
Speaker 2: and as of you know, six o'clock tonight, he did
Speaker 2: not know if the team was planning to pay him.
Speaker 2: So they could still pay him, that's up to them,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they will. I don't think they
Speaker 2: will in this case. Last year when they put him
Speaker 2: on a restricted list, they also docked his pay or
Speaker 2: they did not pay him for those days for those
Speaker 2: two games. So the odds are that they won't, but
Speaker 2: it's actually up to the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. So I guess it's it's unknown.
Speaker 1: We don't even know that. We don't even know whether
Speaker 1: it could tell Marte will be paid during this this
Speaker 1: bizarre stretch while he's on the restricted list, And you know,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say that from a baseball standpoint, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face, it could tell Marte has not
Speaker 1: been a superstar caliber player in twenty twenty six. This
Speaker 1: is not as if you know, the cornerstone of your
Speaker 1: team has you know, stepped aside, and you're kind of
Speaker 1: they're wondering, like, you know, what is our roster without
Speaker 1: this player? Like maybe you'd like it to be that way,
Speaker 1: but that's just not the player that could tell Marte
Speaker 1: has been this season. At the same time, Jack, you
Speaker 1: have to wonder, just like them, from from a mentality standpoint,
Speaker 1: like what does this do to you as a teammate?
Speaker 1: You know, what were those guys in the clubhouse thinking
Speaker 1: leading up to first pitch today? Where you just have
Speaker 1: a teammate who isn't there. Heraldo Perdomo did speak to
Speaker 1: the media after the game. We read off some some
Speaker 1: notes from Steve Gilbert earlier. He didn't seem to say
Speaker 1: a whole lot. I mean, he said he didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about the Kutel situation. He said he hadn't talked
Speaker 1: to Kutel about this at all, and he said our
Speaker 1: goal now is just to go out and win baseball games,
Speaker 1: and that we don't, you know, need any distractions at
Speaker 1: this point. So just from a from a psyche standpoint,
Speaker 1: and I guess, especially given the way that things looked
Speaker 1: on the field tonight, it's it's hard not to wonder if,
Speaker 1: if the impact of this goes beyond, could tell Marte
Speaker 1: just not being in the lineup right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it didn't help that Mitch
Speaker 2: Bratt struggled, you know, and we're going to get into
Speaker 2: the game. But when you start off like that and
Speaker 2: walking a bunch of guys and giving up some early runs,
Speaker 2: you know, it's easy to just get down on the
Speaker 2: whole situation. But you know, some of the early at
Speaker 2: beats as easy as oh they didn't look good, but
Speaker 2: they hit the ball kind of hard early on, just
Speaker 2: right out people. So you know, I bounce here or
Speaker 2: there the other way. You know, maybe Mitch Brad doesn't
Speaker 2: struggle as bad as he does, and the team you
Speaker 2: know is able to bear down, but like once they
Speaker 2: started to get down in this game, four nothing, five nothing,
Speaker 2: it just rolled away from them and you could see
Speaker 2: they there was definitely a letdown. I mean you could
Speaker 2: see it. The play on the field showed it. And
Speaker 2: it's not just about making out and not scoring runs.
Speaker 2: It was the way they played defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ugly day all the way around for the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1: They lose in Boston eleven to one. And yeah, once again,
Speaker 1: this whole situation with Cautel Marte, we just have a
Speaker 1: whole lot more questions than answers at this point. As
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, when Tory was asked about the way forward,
Speaker 1: he said, I don't know. It seems very unclear right now.
Speaker 1: How long could tell Marte is going to be out
Speaker 1: for and what it would look like for him to
Speaker 1: return to the organization. Maybe try to mend what's been
Speaker 1: broken a little bit in terms of trust and relationships
Speaker 1: at least feels like that would be part of the
Speaker 1: situation there. So it is all very complicated right now
Speaker 1: in the Diamondbacks universe. We are going to talk about
Speaker 1: the game a little bit. It wasn't a great baseball
Speaker 1: to watch, but we will talk about a few details there.
Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks also made a whole lot of other roster
Speaker 1: moves tonight that were not related to the Ketel Marte situation.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure we'll circle back to some comments that
Speaker 1: you all have about what's gone on tonight, So don't
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Speaker 1: We really really appreciate it. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: I want to dive into this baseball game, Jack, because
Speaker 1: it feels all pretty relevant right now. And then there
Speaker 1: wasn't really a whole lot to discuss other than Mitch
Speaker 1: Bratt didn't really have his command tonight. Three innings of
Speaker 1: work from him four hits, three runs, three walks, did
Speaker 1: not strike out of batter. Zach Lttel was probably even
Speaker 1: worse in relief in this one three and two thirds
Speaker 1: innings from him, he allowed eleven hits, eight runs, little
Speaker 1: bit of sloppy defense behind him. Six of those runs
Speaker 1: were earned. He also did not strike out a batter
Speaker 1: in this game, gave up a couple of homers. So
Speaker 1: it was just a really really rough night Jack. From
Speaker 1: a hitching standpoint. There was some tough luck occasionally on offense.
Speaker 1: D backs did have some hard hit balls that found gloves,
Speaker 1: but all in all, this was one of the worst
Speaker 1: games we've seen this team play in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on the Mitch Bratt front, I think
Speaker 2: we have to focus there. He's the you know, fifth
Speaker 2: member of the rotation, and you know, his forcing fastball
Speaker 2: was down one point seven miles per hour. He only
Speaker 2: had one pitch recorded over ninety miles an hour. He
Speaker 2: had one that was like ninety one one, and everything
Speaker 2: else was down between one point seven and two point six.
Speaker 2: His slider was down two point six miles per hour,
Speaker 2: his sinker was down two point three. He only threw
Speaker 2: one of them. You know, the slur was down one
Speaker 2: point eight, so I mean essentially he was down almost
Speaker 2: two miles per hour, close to two miles per hour
Speaker 2: across the board. Now, you know, is that to do
Speaker 2: with maybe some mechanics tweaks he tried to make, you know?
Speaker 2: Or is there some kind of red flag underlying there?
Speaker 2: Tory didn't seem to think that there was, but we'll see, right,
Speaker 2: you know, after what seemed like a really good turnaround
Speaker 2: for him, this was a major step backwards for Mitch Bratt,
Speaker 2: and it does have repercussions going forward. Fortunately, Zach Lytel
Speaker 2: was not able to come in and calm things down,
Speaker 2: so that kind of, you know, it's not so easy
Speaker 2: to say, well, I'll just put Zach Lateell in this place.
Speaker 1: Is that fortunately that Zach Ltel gave up eight runs
Speaker 1: and three and two thirds?
Speaker 2: Did I I meant like, unfortunately?
Speaker 1: I might I might have misheard you. It was all
Speaker 1: it was all bad, It was all bad tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean I'm just thinking bigger picture right
Speaker 2: beyond tonight, Like, okay, if if there's an issue with
Speaker 2: Bratt and he's got to be removed from the rotation,
Speaker 2: the next man up is Zach Ltel, But that didn't
Speaker 2: exactly look encouraging tonight. Yeah, that's my point. That is
Speaker 2: all very fair.
Speaker 1: I pulled this this graphic of Mitch Bratt's velocity by game.
Speaker 1: This is just his four seam fastball, and tonight was
Speaker 1: not really a one off. This has been a bit
Speaker 1: of a larger trend for him. He was just up
Speaker 1: over ninety two miles per hour in his in his
Speaker 1: big league debut, that coming against Saint Louis, and it
Speaker 1: is generally gone downwards since then. His last start, his
Speaker 1: velo was just under ninety one miles per hour. In
Speaker 1: this game it was eighty nine point six. I guess
Speaker 1: you could make a case like, hey, Mitch Bratt, his
Speaker 1: game was never about velocity to begin with. If if
Speaker 1: he could just find the zone more consistently, or maybe
Speaker 1: better stated, just like be around the zone. I mean,
Speaker 1: he did throw about fifty percent of his pitches in
Speaker 1: the strike zone, which technically is really not bad at all.
Speaker 1: The problem was all of the pitches out of the
Speaker 1: zone were just so far out of the zone, or
Speaker 1: at least a vast majority of them, that he wasn't
Speaker 1: getting any kind of chase from Red Sox hitters tonight.
Speaker 1: They had a nine percent chase rate compared to an
Speaker 1: eighty two percent swing rate in the zone, so they
Speaker 1: saw the ball very well against Mitch Bratt. There was
Speaker 1: some soft contact here and there. He was able to
Speaker 1: kind of pitch around all of the walks to an extent.
Speaker 1: But when you're spraying the ball around like that, eventually
Speaker 1: you're gonna get beat. And that happened for Mitch Bratt tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there are a bunch of pop ups, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, there are three popouts in the first inning
Speaker 2: surrounding those two walks. He got to pop out in
Speaker 2: a very shallow fly ball to right field. In the
Speaker 2: second inning, you know, in the third inning he started,
Speaker 2: he got a pop up and then a double and
Speaker 2: another pop up, so you know, one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 2: six popouts to the infield and one week flyout. So
Speaker 2: I mean the outs were a lot of soft contact
Speaker 2: in between there, and I think that's just you know,
Speaker 2: throwing a fastball up at the top of the zone,
Speaker 2: guys getting under it, even though it's not not very fast,
Speaker 2: but there are tipping points, you know, when it comes
Speaker 2: to velocity in how one pitch plays off against the
Speaker 2: other and anyway you slice it. I mean, look, yes,
Speaker 2: he's not a fast velocity depending guy, but all the
Speaker 2: more reason why a guy that's like that can't afford
Speaker 2: to lose two miles an hour. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: throw ninety eight and you drop to ninety six, you
Speaker 2: still have weapons to get guys out. If you throw
Speaker 2: ninety five and you drop to ninety three, you still
Speaker 2: have weapons to get guys. If you throw ninety ninety
Speaker 2: one and you drop to eighty nine, that's going to
Speaker 2: be a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was unfortunately for Mitch Bratt in this game. Offensively,
Speaker 1: not a whole lot going on in this one. Diamondback's
Speaker 1: just a run on four hits. There were some hard
Speaker 1: hit balls, as I said earlier, and I guess we'll
Speaker 1: transition to some guys we haven't seen in quite a while.
Speaker 2: Jordan Lawler hit.
Speaker 1: Fifth for the dime Backs in this game in the
Speaker 1: lineup for the first time since June. He went over
Speaker 1: four with three strikeouts. Didn't look real sharp at the plate.
Speaker 1: Jose Fernandez went one for three with a strikeout in
Speaker 1: his return to the lineup. So Fernande is a different case.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how long he'll wind up being here.
Speaker 1: It might depend on the catel Marte situation. But Jordan
Speaker 1: Lawler is a player that you hope could really contribute
Speaker 1: something down the stretch. At least for me, Jack not
Speaker 1: not too concerned to see him struggle a little bit
Speaker 1: on Day one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean everyone was impressed by all the
Speaker 2: five homers and four games, but he was striking out
Speaker 2: of Fairmount too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He had like a thirty five percent strikeout rate
Speaker 1: and double a on his reab assignment.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm not gonna be surprised if it
Speaker 2: takes him a week or two to get rolling. Jose
Speaker 2: Fernandez was hitting really well since July, you know. And
Speaker 2: he had the base hit, which was a sharp ground
Speaker 2: ball that got through, and then well he lined out
Speaker 2: to left center, I mean as a rope too, you know,
Speaker 2: and the outfielder made a nice running play. And then
Speaker 2: on the strikeout, looking, you know, he just didn't challenge.
Speaker 2: There were two pitches way outside the strike zone he
Speaker 2: could have easily challenged. I don't know why he didn't,
Speaker 2: you know, I think there's just something, you know, I
Speaker 2: have one source that told me there might be some
Speaker 2: mixed messaging when it comes to calling, you know, making
Speaker 2: the challenges, and it certainly does seem like young players
Speaker 2: on this team, rookies and younger players are far more
Speaker 2: hesitant to challenge. So something's going on that makes all
Speaker 2: the young guys kind of hesitant to do that. Of course,
Speaker 2: Nolan seems hesitant to challenge too, so it's not only
Speaker 2: the young guys, but it seems more concentrated around them.
Speaker 2: You know. Fernandez, his first game back games kind of lopsided.
Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't want to get embarrassed by being wrong,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't totally sure. I mean, the other point
Speaker 2: is he doesn't walk a lot to begin with, and
Speaker 2: his batting eye may not be his biggest strength, so
Speaker 2: he may not have been utterly sure as we were
Speaker 2: sitting on our couches looking at a strike zone box
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, for sure, that was definitely a ball,
Speaker 2: but they were they were pretty wide misses built of them.
Speaker 2: One was outside, one was down low. So anyway, I
Speaker 2: actually was a little encouraged by that. Fernandes did bounce
Speaker 2: a throw over to first base. They called him the
Speaker 2: runner safe initially on replay. They did get him, like
Speaker 2: to see him get the ball up a little bit
Speaker 2: those on those plays.
Speaker 1: As far as the standings go, here's a look at
Speaker 1: where things sit in the NL Wild Card race. Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: are still on the outside looking in. With tonight's loss,
Speaker 1: they are now sixty six and sixty. The Padres did
Speaker 1: lose tonight to the New York Mets final score of
Speaker 1: two to one. There Philly is a back and forth
Speaker 1: game with Miami. They ultimately win that game six to five,
Speaker 1: so Phillies now have a two game advantage on the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1: The Padres where they one game advantage and Jacket just
Speaker 1: doesn't With the Phillies starting to heat up now they
Speaker 1: swept the Twins over the weekend, they get game one
Speaker 1: against Miami. This is tough. I mean, on one hand,
Speaker 1: you can look at the numbers and say, you know,
Speaker 1: these teams are on pace for somewhere in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: of eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven wins. Maybe you
Speaker 1: don't have to go crazy to end the season to
Speaker 1: make the postseason. But the way that the Padres have
Speaker 1: played lately, the way that the Phillies are starting to play,
Speaker 1: it's starting to feel like, you know, eighty five might
Speaker 1: not be anywhere close when all is said and done.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure that eighty eight is going to
Speaker 2: be enough. But you know, one thing to note also,
Speaker 2: I was kind of looking at the schedules today. You know,
Speaker 2: the Padres have a run where they get like four
Speaker 2: against the Giants, three against the Rockies, like back to back.
Speaker 2: So they've got their their Giants Rockies run of seven
Speaker 2: straight games against those two teams. So that'll be an
Speaker 2: opportunity for them to maybe you know, cut a little
Speaker 2: distance here. Overall, their schedule is like the Diamondbacks, and
Speaker 2: that is softer. The Phillies schedule is a little bit
Speaker 2: more difficult, and they've got i think six games left
Speaker 2: against the Braves, you know, who hopefully are motivated to
Speaker 2: make sure that they knock them down a peg. So
Speaker 2: we'll see where it all lands. But I figure that
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks need to at least get to eighty eight
Speaker 2: games to secure a playoff spot. That's my opinion. That's
Speaker 2: the way I project things. So and eighty eight isn't
Speaker 2: a certainty, but I think that that gives them a
Speaker 2: pretty good shot. So that means they got to win
Speaker 2: twenty two more games. That's going to be tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is going to be tough for sure. That
Speaker 1: would be the Diamondbacks finishing the season twenty two and
Speaker 1: fourteen if my math is correct, and that's a pretty
Speaker 1: tall order. The rest of season's schedule isn't too too
Speaker 1: difficult for the Dbacks at this point, especially once they
Speaker 1: get past this series against Boston, But nonetheless, it's not
Speaker 1: like it's a souper easy schedule, and that's a lot
Speaker 1: of games to win here, with about a month and
Speaker 1: a half remaining in the season, we've got more to
Speaker 1: get to in this episode. As I mentioned earlier, the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks did make several roster moves that weren't related to
Speaker 1: the Katel Martes situation, so we'll dive into those, and
Speaker 1: we'll also maybe circle back with some final thoughts on
Speaker 1: what happened tonight with kateel Marte. So don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: In our last episode, we were talking a whole lot
Speaker 1: about Nolan Arnado and him kind of awkwardly running up
Speaker 1: the first baseline in the fourth inning on Sunday. Appears
Speaker 1: the Dbacks have sort of dodged a bule it there.
Speaker 1: Placing Ronado on the IL was not among the roster
Speaker 1: moves the team made today. And it sounds like there
Speaker 1: was a signal. Is the word that Toy used a
Speaker 1: signal of some intercostal something or other that popped up
Speaker 1: on his MRI. But the word right now is that
Speaker 1: Nolan is going to push through this, and Toy sounds
Speaker 1: very very thankful that Nolan is willing to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a very small signal till he takes his next
Speaker 2: hard swing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that might be case.
Speaker 2: I have no confidence in this situation. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 2: don't mean to be Debbie Downer, but you know, this
Speaker 2: just this just does weeks of a situation where they're
Speaker 2: a little desperate and they're dealing with a gritty veteran
Speaker 2: who wants to keep trying, and they have to give
Speaker 2: him a chance. So he'll probably take off Tomorrow's kind
Speaker 2: of the what it sounds like, and then you know,
Speaker 2: maybe he can play in the series finale and try
Speaker 2: it out. You know, maybe he takes ends up taking
Speaker 2: off the rest of the series and comes you know,
Speaker 2: and then that comes back and plays after the road trip,
Speaker 2: so we'll see. But these things, you know, just one
Speaker 2: bad swing and it really rips could rip them up.
Speaker 2: So you know, unfortunately, with the situation, we could tell,
Speaker 2: the last thing that they can afford is to also
Speaker 2: lose Nolan to the IL. So they're gonna try, you know,
Speaker 2: And kudos to him. Like I said, he's a gritty guy.
Speaker 2: He's tough, you know. But I just I don't feel
Speaker 2: good about it, and I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm speculating, what do I know.
Speaker 1: Torri in his postgame presser, mentioned that it wasn't the delay,
Speaker 1: and the lineup being posted wasn't just about Coutell. It
Speaker 1: was also about Nolan Arnado's availability for this game. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Nolan was available off the bench in some capacity. Sounded
Speaker 1: like more of an emergency type situation than anything else.
Speaker 1: But for right now, he's still on the roster. He's
Speaker 1: been hot lately. Dbacks can certainly use his bat in
Speaker 1: this lineup. There were a lot of roster moves that
Speaker 1: they did make. Jack, of course, Justin Martinez was reinstated
Speaker 1: from the sixty day injured list once and for all.
Speaker 1: I guess we were talking about mid August a few
Speaker 1: months ago. That's the one injury timeline that has actually
Speaker 1: landed about where we thought it would. So Justin Martinez
Speaker 1: activated here on August seventeenth. Jordan Lawler of course as well,
Speaker 1: was reinstated from the injured list played in this game,
Speaker 1: and then the corresponding moves there, Dbak's option Herado Correo
Speaker 1: down to triple A Reno. We talked about this a
Speaker 1: little bit in yesterday's show. I personally still don't really
Speaker 1: understand the thinking there. Tyler Locklear was optioned as well.
Speaker 1: We figured that could be possible, especially if Nolan avoided
Speaker 1: the IL, which wound up being the case. And then
Speaker 1: to create a extra spot on the forty man roster,
Speaker 1: Andrew Hoffman was designated for assignment. That's another possibility we
Speaker 1: touched on yesterday that the d bacs could designate someone
Speaker 1: who's been down in the minor leagues in order to
Speaker 1: make a room there. So a lot of roster moves.
Speaker 1: Really really busy day on that front for the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clarifying one point or two with Huff and he
Speaker 2: had suffered a lot strain and he was on the
Speaker 2: minor league sixty day IL. There was some question about
Speaker 2: whether he would be moved to the MLB sixty day IL,
Speaker 2: but that would necessitate paying him major league minimum and
Speaker 2: giving him the service time. Clearly, the Diamondbacks went in
Speaker 2: the exact opposite direction. Now, he may clear waivers at
Speaker 2: this point in time. You know, there may be teams
Speaker 2: out there that don't want to put him on the
Speaker 2: forty man roster. We don't know, but you know, so
Speaker 2: if he clears waivers, he may end up staying in
Speaker 2: the organization and then just have to work his way
Speaker 2: back to health and work his way back to the roster.
Speaker 2: He's still got a great change up, as we talked
Speaker 2: about a couple of shows ago. But you know, sad
Speaker 2: news for Andrew. I mean, you know, he came over
Speaker 2: here with some hopes that he would be able to
Speaker 2: be an impact reliever and that just didn't work out,
Speaker 2: you know, taking Locklear off the roster. I mean, he
Speaker 2: wasn't playing. You know, he did have some decent batting numbers.
Speaker 2: I think he was betting two seventy six at the time.
Speaker 2: He was DFAD. I'm sorry optioned out, you know, and
Speaker 2: as you mentioned Jesse Correo, it makes little sense. But
Speaker 2: as soon as they indicated that they were calling up Santana,
Speaker 2: it was the only move that they could make. There
Speaker 2: wasn't any other pitching. There wasn't anybody else that they
Speaker 2: can option out. There isn't anybody that they want a DFA.
Speaker 2: So the only thing that makes sense is that they
Speaker 2: felt like they needed the depth for the long haul.
Speaker 2: They can bring back Carreo in two weeks if they
Speaker 2: need to, and you know, maybe it works out where
Speaker 2: Santana is decent and they bring back Correo in two
Speaker 2: weeks and now they have two good pitchers, So that's
Speaker 2: probably what they're thinking. And if Satana, you know, doesn't
Speaker 2: pitch well, they can always DFA him. So it doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense to maybe sign Santana in the first place
Speaker 2: if you don't really believe in his ability to make improvements.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of where this all falls falls in.
Speaker 1: I guess Santana is another player who made his long
Speaker 1: awaited debut. I guess it was a return for some
Speaker 1: of the other guys, but for Dennis Santana it was
Speaker 1: a debut. He faced one batter, Jack, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to read too much into it, but he did
Speaker 1: throw his first two sinkers. He kind of spiked both
Speaker 1: of them, and then he threw one that was in
Speaker 1: the zone was able to get a ground ball. So
Speaker 1: can only read so much into one at bat. But
Speaker 1: I frankly remained a little bit skeptical there. He did
Speaker 1: not have good numbers in the majors this season. The
Speaker 1: underlying numbers were all really rough. In tripa A, he
Speaker 1: had two outings, one of them and gave up three runs.
Speaker 1: The other one he threw a scoreless inning, So he's
Speaker 1: probably just going to be a low leverage type guy.
Speaker 1: So I guess the that Dennis Santana like loses you
Speaker 1: a game in the next two weeks is probably not
Speaker 1: very high. The stakes are not all that high here,
Speaker 1: even though I will still say I don't really understand
Speaker 1: the decision in this case as far as I guess.
Speaker 1: Circling back around to the Kittel situation, Jack Kittel has
Speaker 1: just been a topic of so much discussion here over
Speaker 1: the past few years. It feels like he's become very polarizing,
Speaker 1: where some fans are just not so happy about these
Speaker 1: kinds of moments repeating themselves, and you can certainly understand why,
Speaker 1: whereas other people are more like he's been arguably the
Speaker 1: best Diamondbacks hitter ever, at least in terms of longevity.
Speaker 1: He has a chance certainly to be at the top
Speaker 1: of a lot of the record's list by the time
Speaker 1: his career is over. But yeah, I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: going anywhere at this point. And if you're the Diamondback,
Speaker 1: I think you have to proceed. You just have to
Speaker 1: proceed in a way that that gives Katl a chance
Speaker 1: to come back and make an impact for you, even
Speaker 1: if it's messy, and it probably will be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see a little bit of a debate kind
Speaker 2: of going on in the comments section, So I'm going
Speaker 2: to weigh in here, guys, because I do know about
Speaker 2: this situation fairly clearly. So last year when the All
Speaker 2: Star Break ended, when the All Star Game ended, Corbyn
Speaker 2: and Gina were sitting on an airplane and Katl was
Speaker 2: supposed to be on an airplane and he didn't show
Speaker 2: up for the airplane and he flew down to the
Speaker 2: Dominican Republic. And if you did the hours, and you
Speaker 2: did the math, and you did the logistics, there was
Speaker 2: no way that he was going to make it back
Speaker 2: for the Friday game in Cincinnati. Subsequently, after he landed
Speaker 2: in the Dominican Republic, he found out that his house
Speaker 2: was robbed. That's true, that happened, but was not going
Speaker 2: to make it to the Friday game, and he did
Speaker 2: not communicate to the team that he was planning to
Speaker 2: go to the Dominican Republic and that he wouldn't be
Speaker 2: back in time for Friday's game. When we pressed him
Speaker 2: on it, he said, oh, my intention was to be,
Speaker 2: you know, back in time for that game. But what
Speaker 2: it would have worked out to is he would have
Speaker 2: had all of less than twelve hours in the Dominican
Speaker 2: Republic before he would have needed to get back on
Speaker 2: the plane and fly back to Cincinnati. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to the whole house was robbed thing
Speaker 2: that that was not the reason why the team was
Speaker 2: upset with him, you know, And that's not really the
Speaker 2: reason why he didn't make it to that Friday game
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. So I'm very much in tune with all
Speaker 2: of that. I will say that at the time, I
Speaker 2: personally I asked to tell were you concerned for your family?
Speaker 2: At that time, and you know, for the safety of
Speaker 2: your family, said yes he was, and so I do
Speaker 2: believe that the extra day that it took was related
Speaker 2: to that. But he was not going to make it
Speaker 2: back on that Friday after the All Star break. So
Speaker 2: that's just a fact. I don't want to dive into
Speaker 2: his motivations there or anything. I'm just reporting the fact.
Speaker 1: That's all very good stuff. Yeah, I think it's important
Speaker 1: to get those details right from a season ago. Of course,
Speaker 1: down the stretch in twenty twenty four, there was the
Speaker 1: game where Katel felt the need to sit out down
Speaker 1: the stretch with the Diamondbacks right in the middle of
Speaker 1: a postseason race in that final week in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: The optics there not great either, but you know, this
Speaker 1: is the player and the person that could tell Marte
Speaker 1: is in some ways tonight is unfortunately not all that
Speaker 1: surprising given what we've seen the past few years. Kutel
Speaker 1: is otherworldly in terms of talent. We've seen that at
Speaker 1: we've seen the type of player that he can be.
Speaker 1: Certainly in twenty twenty three. Both in twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty five, it was it was unbelievable,
Speaker 1: and even as Katel continues to age, like I think
Speaker 1: there's a world where Katl Marte could still be a
Speaker 1: pretty good hitter at the very least. Maybe, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe the defense takes a step back, But imagining Katell
Speaker 1: just like mashing, especially left handed pitching at the age
Speaker 1: of like thirty six or thirty seven, is not all
Speaker 1: that much of a stretch for me. The bat speed
Speaker 1: is still there, the athleticism is still I think, pretty
Speaker 1: good across the board at this point. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: also this off the field stuff, these situations where he
Speaker 1: doesn't show up in the way that you wish he could,
Speaker 1: and that's just part of having Kadel Marte on your
Speaker 1: baseball team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, hopefully we'll have more information coming
Speaker 2: soon about exactly what's going on. Again. I hope that
Speaker 2: everything is okay with him and his family. You know,
Speaker 2: that's first and foremost. I mean, really the first questions
Speaker 2: I asked and wanted to know, and you know, I'll
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I even I reached out to
Speaker 2: Nick and Steve, you know, behind the scenes, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: have they actually had contact from him? Because from the
Speaker 2: initial tweets that wasn't clear, and everyone was wondering, like,
Speaker 2: you know, is he safe, and you know, so Nick
Speaker 2: came back out and said, to be clear, he's safe physically,
Speaker 2: you know, And that was first and foremost at the
Speaker 2: top of my mind. You know, I see in the
Speaker 2: comment sections somebody wondering if it's a mental health issue,
Speaker 2: you know, and mental health can be just as devastating
Speaker 2: as you know, any kind of physical health or injury.
Speaker 2: And so you know, whatever help he needs, I hope
Speaker 2: that he's able to get. You know, this is a
Speaker 2: tough situation, I'm sure for him, for his family, you know.
Speaker 2: And I can understand why Torri had tears tonight. So
Speaker 2: I hope that nothing I said tonight does not come
Speaker 2: off as not having any empathy towards Katel Marte. But
Speaker 2: this is a team sport and he's got teammates in
Speaker 2: that locker room, and you know, for him not to communicate,
Speaker 2: it's going to be hard to accept a mitigating circumstance
Speaker 2: that would explain total noncommunication. That that's the problem for me.
Speaker 2: You know, I've taken days off work when I needed
Speaker 2: a day and I couldn't go. And they're human being
Speaker 2: you know, so certainly you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: judge on that, but you got to communicate. You just
Speaker 2: got to well.
Speaker 1: Regardless of what happens with Caateel Marte over the next
Speaker 1: couple of days, one thing we can say for sure,
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks need to play better baseball than what we
Speaker 1: saw tonight out in Boston. Tomorrow, the pitching matchup is
Speaker 1: Merrill Kelly against Ranger Suarez. The finale of this series
Speaker 1: is going to be pretty fun pitching matchup. It's Brandon
Speaker 1: Fott and twenty three year old Lefty Peyton. Totally going
Speaker 1: for Boston in that finale. So Diamondbacks, they're right in
Speaker 1: the thick of this thing. They're now on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in, but still right there in the NL wildcard race.
Speaker 1: We'll see if they're able to get things back on
Speaker 1: track after a couple of rough losses in Atlanta and
Speaker 1: now in Boston. Thank you to all of you for
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Speaker 1: Jack any final thoughts here as we say goodbye on
Speaker 1: a very complicated night in the world of the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2: Just best wishes to everyone out there, including Kattel and
Speaker 2: his family, all the Diamondbacks, and all you wonderful listeners
Speaker 2: that came in and hung out with us tonight. Thanks
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